WEBVTT - Rachel Dillon's Baby Name Slip Up 0:00:01.240 --> 0:00:04.240 Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the 0:00:04.320 --> 0:00:07.800 hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm 0:00:07.840 --> 0:00:11.479 Sophie Torber and coming up on today's show, Amy Girard 0:00:11.520 --> 0:00:15.120 calls out her own family on Mother's Day. Saffron Barker's 0:00:15.200 --> 0:00:17.960 dream trip to the US has turned into a nightmare. 0:00:18.360 --> 0:00:21.040 Why everyone is losing their minds over La Boo Boos 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:24.800 and our Friday de Brief but First, Rachel Dillon has 0:00:24.840 --> 0:00:27.400 been forced to ask her followers to keep a special 0:00:27.480 --> 0:00:31.200 secret for her. The Finnis influencer is currently thirty weeks 0:00:31.240 --> 0:00:34.360 pregnant and accidentally let slip her son's name to her 0:00:34.400 --> 0:00:38.360 one point eight million followers on her Instagram story now Kate. 0:00:38.400 --> 0:00:41.199 She only realized the mistake when she received an influx 0:00:41.200 --> 0:00:42.599 of messages from her followers. 0:00:42.880 --> 0:00:43.160 Yeah. 0:00:43.200 --> 0:00:46.000 She quickly deleted the story and wrote to her audience, 0:00:46.080 --> 0:00:48.239 I did just say his name on my story for 0:00:48.360 --> 0:00:51.280 all of those who saw and message, Oops, baby brain, 0:00:51.360 --> 0:00:53.400 But can it be our little secret? It's been a 0:00:53.479 --> 0:00:55.240 name I've wanted from my boy for years, and I 0:00:55.240 --> 0:00:59.280 speak about him using his name, so it's just natural now. Fortunately, 0:00:59.440 --> 0:01:01.640 from what I've seen, people have been pretty respectful to 0:01:01.760 --> 0:01:04.280 Rachel's wishes. We even had a thread in our Facebook 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:06.640 group asking what's the name? And no one has given it, 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:09.360 which I'm pleased to see. I'm actually shocked that no 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:12.440 one has leaked this name. It's a very pleasant surprise. 0:01:12.520 --> 0:01:14.720 Do we think that maybe not that many people caught 0:01:14.760 --> 0:01:16.880 the name? Well, I think it's probably a case of 0:01:16.959 --> 0:01:19.080 the people who twigged and heard the name and messaged 0:01:19.120 --> 0:01:22.119 her are probably hardcore Rachel Dylan fans and they want 0:01:22.120 --> 0:01:24.480 to respect her privacy. And she put out that message saying, 0:01:24.480 --> 0:01:26.520 you know, please, can you help keep my secret? I 0:01:26.560 --> 0:01:28.720 bet the Daily Mails kicking themselves that they didn't catch 0:01:28.720 --> 0:01:31.240 this name. Yeah, I've seen a few influence of watchdog 0:01:31.240 --> 0:01:33.120 accounts asking did anyone catch it? 0:01:33.440 --> 0:01:33.640 Now? 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:36.280 While Rachel is pregnant with her first baby, she's also 0:01:36.319 --> 0:01:39.080 a step mom to her husband, Toby Pierce's daughter, Anna. 0:01:39.640 --> 0:01:43.360 Anna's mum is, of course, Kayla Assinas, Toby's ex fiance 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:47.240 and business partner, and I have really enjoyed seeing Anna 0:01:47.480 --> 0:01:51.200 and Rachel's relationship blossom on her Instagram story and it's 0:01:51.200 --> 0:01:54.200 so sweet because Rachel shared a video of Anna surprising 0:01:54.200 --> 0:01:56.600 her with a Mother's Day card where she called her 0:01:56.600 --> 0:02:05.000 her second mummy. Let's take a listen, you guess, Kelly, 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:16.320 I do. Yeah, my momius the baby. 0:02:16.520 --> 0:02:20.600 How that's very true. 0:02:21.360 --> 0:02:25.280 My mom should get an award for growing a baby. 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:28.160 I think they should do. 0:02:29.280 --> 0:02:34.600 She's unique because she is my second mummy. On that's 0:02:34.600 --> 0:02:35.960 a nic baby. 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:38.600 I love her focus. 0:02:38.639 --> 0:02:40.959 She was on the fact that Rachel gets around poo 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:42.519 bearing it as I like to call it, with a 0:02:42.560 --> 0:02:43.480 belly out all the time. 0:02:43.480 --> 0:02:44.200 I just loved it. 0:02:44.400 --> 0:02:47.280 The things that kids seem to focus on, well, it 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:49.400 is pretty funny because I think it's quite a novel 0:02:49.440 --> 0:02:51.440 thing for people to see, like it's in fashion at 0:02:51.480 --> 0:02:53.960 the moment. But you know, a kid kind of just 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:56.040 calls it how they see it and says, oh, you 0:02:56.040 --> 0:02:58.040 wear your tummy out all the time. When I see 0:02:58.080 --> 0:03:01.840 these blossoming relationships between step parents, I sometimes wonder how 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:05.360 the other parents feel. I put myself in that situation 0:03:05.480 --> 0:03:08.200 and think, how would I feel if my future child 0:03:08.200 --> 0:03:10.600 referred to someone else as their second mom. Yeah, I'm 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:13.120 not gonna lie. When I was watching it, I was thinking, Oh, 0:03:13.200 --> 0:03:15.280 I wonder how I'd feel if this was Jack, And 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:18.079 my heart actually sank a little bit. But then You've 0:03:18.120 --> 0:03:21.520 got to remember, it's so nice that Anna gets on 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:23.400 with their step mom. I mean, the situation would be 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:25.880 way worse. I mean in fairy tales you hear about 0:03:25.880 --> 0:03:28.000 all these evil step moms, and I think it's actually 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:30.919 so nice that we're seeing this positive step mother and 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:32.320 stepdaughter relationship playing. 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:33.399 It's really beautiful. 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:36.200 I think you'd be very relieved that your child had 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:38.600 such a positive person in their life. But for me, 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:41.320 for some reason, them calling them also their mom, I 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:44.280 would just find really triggering. The thing is you probably 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:46.920 wouldn't normally have to watch it, but because Rachel has 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:49.840 shared it on social media, you are watching it in 0:03:49.880 --> 0:03:53.040 real time and that interaction. That being said, Anna also 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:57.040 seems very close with Jay, which is Kayla's partner. I 0:03:57.040 --> 0:03:59.520 don't know if she refers to him as dad, but 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:03.520 it's an interesting one. She wasn't referring to Rachel as mum, 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:05.560 like she was calling her Rachel, but it just said 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:07.520 she had to fill out a worksheet for school and 0:04:07.640 --> 0:04:10.360 said my second mummy, Like that's a fun fact about her. 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:12.440 I'm looking forward to all of our kids going to school. 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:14.880 I want to receive some of these gifts. They're quite funny. 0:04:15.040 --> 0:04:16.719 The only thing is the kids seem to drop you 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:20.440 in it and point out all of your embarrassing little flaws, 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:21.680 all the stupid things that you. 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:22.599 Do around the house. 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:24.560 Yeah, they don't sugarcoat anything. 0:04:25.839 --> 0:04:28.640 All right. Quick. PSA for all the husbands out there, 0:04:30.080 --> 0:04:34.239 your mom can get a text message, a phone call, 0:04:35.839 --> 0:04:40.200 but if you have a wife with kids, that's the 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:43.640 woman that needs to be celebrated through that day. 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:49.120 Amy Gerard has slammed her family for not celebrating her 0:04:49.120 --> 0:04:52.320 on Mother's Day. The radio host shared an emotional post 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:56.200 saying she felt unappreciated and undervalued. Kate, before we get 0:04:56.200 --> 0:04:58.359 into it, for those not familiar with Amy, can you 0:04:58.360 --> 0:05:00.839 give us a bit of background. Tem Me actually started 0:05:00.839 --> 0:05:04.599 out on social media, documenting her journey with motherhood on Instagram. 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:06.080 Is that a fancy way of saying that she's a 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:08.040 mummy blogger? Because I know the term mummy blogger is 0:05:08.120 --> 0:05:10.080 very frowned upon it the moment we get nervous to 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:12.480 use that. Yeah, it is a term that we're trying 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:15.760 to retire at the moment. So her audience began to 0:05:15.839 --> 0:05:18.560 grow as she shared her honest and sometimes comedic take 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:21.160 on parenting. She now has one hundred and fifty six 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:25.200 thousand followers and released a memoir, host two podcasts, created 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:27.480 a wine company, and, as you said in the intro, 0:05:27.600 --> 0:05:30.360 has become a weekend radio host on Kiss FM. 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:30.919 Now. 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:34.160 On Mother's Day, Amy shared a photo of clouds over 0:05:34.160 --> 0:05:37.120 a river at dusk with the caption nothing quite like 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:41.599 Mother's Day to really highlight how underappreciated and undervalued you 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:44.120 are one day and not a single person in my 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:48.000 family could make it special. I'm flying to Paris next year. 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:50.919 Can you imagine being her husband and opening up Instagram 0:05:50.920 --> 0:05:54.560 and seeing this, You'd be like, I have fucked up. Oh, 0:05:54.600 --> 0:05:57.360 your stomach would absolutely drop because not only are your 0:05:57.360 --> 0:05:59.800 family and friends seeing this, but over a one hundred and 0:05:59.800 --> 0:06:02.680 fifty six thousand people on Instagram who were judging you 0:06:02.720 --> 0:06:04.479 for not doing anything. And you just know, in this 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:06.559 day and age, there's going to be think pieces written 0:06:06.600 --> 0:06:08.600 about it, It's going to be spoken about a lot, 0:06:08.600 --> 0:06:10.440 and there's probably going to be a big argument at home. 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:13.640 And also the fact that she now is a radio host. Yeah, 0:06:13.680 --> 0:06:16.119 this is going to be your topic on her radio show. 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:19.880 It's also awkward because this year and we've spoken about 0:06:19.880 --> 0:06:21.880 it with our friends I've seen this real shift of 0:06:21.920 --> 0:06:24.760 the way that people are celebrating Mother's Day, particularly on 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:27.960 social media. When I woke up, there were a lot 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:30.680 of mothers who were almost celebrating themselves, which I thought 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:32.479 was quite nice. Like they were marking it with a 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:34.880 post of them and their children saying that, you know, 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:37.839 thank you for making me a mom and sharing the 0:06:37.920 --> 0:06:39.800 highlights of their motherhood journey. 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:41.240 Yeah, which I haven't seen before. 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:43.400 Yeah, it seemed like you had to wish everyone a 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:45.400 happy Mother's Day, like your friends who are mums, and 0:06:45.760 --> 0:06:48.080 your mother in law and your mom, and like it's 0:06:48.120 --> 0:06:50.279 not just because I think the day is about your 0:06:50.360 --> 0:06:52.240 mom and your relationship with your mom. And then also 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:55.479 if you're a mother, your kid showing you some appreciation. Yeah, 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:57.240 I mean the shops must be loving it. Because I 0:06:57.240 --> 0:06:59.320 don't know where this concept of having to buy other 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:00.640 mom's presence came from. 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:01.840 I felt so terrible. 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:05.120 My sister in law bought me this beautiful little jumpsuit 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:07.080 for our baby and was saying, oh, you know, even 0:07:07.080 --> 0:07:09.800 though you haven't had the baby yet, happy first Mother's Day. 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:11.880 And I just felt like an asshole because I didn't 0:07:11.880 --> 0:07:13.120 buy her anything. I was like, I didn't know this 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:15.239 was a thing. Well, I mean, yeah, we were talking 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:17.160 about I think it was on a subs episode. How 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:19.760 it was contentious whether you get someone who's pregnant a 0:07:19.800 --> 0:07:21.760 Mother's Day gift or not. They have to wait till 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:22.920 they have had the baby. 0:07:22.960 --> 0:07:24.440 You feel like Brownon was scared here. 0:07:25.480 --> 0:07:27.880 When I woke up, he prepared me my favorite breakfast, 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:30.560 very basic, which was Antella mon toast. 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:32.240 He brought me some air pods. 0:07:32.280 --> 0:07:34.200 I take it back by the gift, and he also 0:07:34.280 --> 0:07:36.200 had a card because he knows that I love cards. 0:07:36.200 --> 0:07:39.200 And he had a message from our unborn son Archie 0:07:39.200 --> 0:07:41.720 and also himself in there. And it did see because 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:44.520 your husband and Amy's husband they both put up these 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:47.920 beautiful posts for your first Mother's Day with the carousela 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:49.600 photos and he's like, do you want me it a 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:52.280 social media posts? I was like, no, that's fine. Well 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:54.760 my husband also got the memo. I was very spoilt 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:56.960 and very grateful for all the effort that he put in. 0:07:57.680 --> 0:08:00.640 I definitely didn't have the same situation as ab Grard. 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:03.880 So the next day she went on to her Instagram 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:06.400 story to provide a bit more context. So talking to 0:08:06.480 --> 0:08:10.080 the camera, she explained that she's low maintenance and doesn't 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:13.280 ask for much or expect gifts. However, she said she 0:08:13.440 --> 0:08:16.320 was hoping for a cup of tea or breakfast in 0:08:16.520 --> 0:08:17.560 bed and got neither. 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:18.760 Instead. 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:21.800 She said that she did countless loads of washing, rake 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:24.800 the lawn, and broke up arguments between her kids. She 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:26.760 went on to say it was her fault for thinking 0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:29.280 things would be different on other's day. Here's more of 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:30.000 what she said. 0:08:31.120 --> 0:08:32.560 And so I. 0:08:32.679 --> 0:08:33.440 Basically just. 0:08:35.080 --> 0:08:38.600 Got on with my day and I was just whatever. 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:42.079 And then towards the afternoon, I don't know, Bobby and 0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:43.240 Kobe were off. 0:08:44.760 --> 0:08:49.200 So like demonic children, and they were just. 0:08:49.280 --> 0:08:52.640 Like taking in turns to go me. And then I 0:08:52.720 --> 0:08:54.880 think at like three point thirty, I was like. 0:08:56.520 --> 0:08:58.800 This and I just got my keys. 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:04.319 I feel like having breakfast in bed supplied for you 0:09:04.600 --> 0:09:07.320 is the bare minimum when you've got kids who live 0:09:07.440 --> 0:09:10.400 at home. I remember being in my twenties and still 0:09:10.480 --> 0:09:13.280 making pancakes for Mum on the morning of Mother's Day. 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:15.720 I don't think that there's any excuse here. I also 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:19.079 think that it comes down to the father setting the 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:20.920 agenda for the day and saying, hey, we're going to 0:09:20.960 --> 0:09:22.760 get up early. We're going to make mums and breakfast 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:24.560 and let's plan a nice day for her. 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:25.760 I do feel a bit. 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:28.520 Uncomfortable how she said their kids were off their effing 0:09:28.559 --> 0:09:30.080 tits and they were demonic, like. 0:09:30.800 --> 0:09:31.920 They much lay bad. 0:09:32.000 --> 0:09:34.160 But I mean their primary school age children. I think 0:09:34.200 --> 0:09:35.679 her oldest one is ten and the others are a 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:38.000 little bit younger. Maybe she thought this was relatable though, 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:41.000 because we were seeing, as I said before, just all 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:44.920 of the beautiful moments of motherhood being shared on Instagram 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:48.319 on Sunday, whereas no one was really suing the reality. Well, 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:50.199 I'm glad that we've got a bit of reality on 0:09:50.280 --> 0:09:52.760 Mother's Day. Yeah, I mean, as an influencer, it was 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:56.199 nice to actually, you know, see that her day wasn't perfect. 0:09:56.320 --> 0:09:58.280 And I think obviously we're seeing a lot of highlight 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:01.079 reels from the day. I think she must have gone 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:04.040 online started comparing her day to everyone else's in it 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:06.679 just the rage would have built up and built up. 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:09.599 I mean. The response was mixed. Amy said that she 0:10:09.800 --> 0:10:12.760 was flooded with sympathetic messages from her followers. She said 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:16.080 she received two thousand replies to her story from other mums, 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:18.520 saying that they also felt like pieces of shit. 0:10:18.400 --> 0:10:19.920 On Mother's Day, which is so sad. 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:22.199 Well, that's what I hate about social media because in 0:10:22.240 --> 0:10:23.800 this day and age, you can compare and see what 0:10:23.960 --> 0:10:26.920 other people's partners and kids have done for them and 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:29.800 instantly think, well, why haven't I had the same treatment. 0:10:30.160 --> 0:10:32.079 I just think it made me feel uncomfortable that she 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:35.319 specifically named her children and called them out. I do 0:10:35.559 --> 0:10:37.559 think the message should have been directed. 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:40.000 At her husband. I mean, the kids are young. 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:42.319 Yes, they could have behaved, but it's up to the 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:45.200 partner to facilitate breakfast in bed in a present. I mean, 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:47.760 don't schools do cards and stuff like that we're talking 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:50.040 about Rachel Dlon got a card. 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:51.480 Well, talking about. 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:53.640 Mother's Day cards, did you see the one that rocks 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:56.960 in ankhost daughter Pixie curtis right for her. I'm still 0:10:57.040 --> 0:10:59.040 in shock over this one because she took a photo 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:02.160 of the message in the card, and one line that 0:11:02.200 --> 0:11:04.839 stood out to me was I will miss you so 0:11:05.000 --> 0:11:07.640 so so much when I go to Switzerland. Who will 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:10.120 tell you to go ten because the UV is high. 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:13.960 Now Roxy and her family they're currently living in Singapore, 0:11:14.040 --> 0:11:17.280 and just like Australia, the UV is very high there. 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:18.680 The really disturbing thing. 0:11:18.600 --> 0:11:21.000 About this that people may not realize is that Roxy 0:11:21.160 --> 0:11:23.839 and her daughter are both natural redheads. They have very 0:11:23.920 --> 0:11:27.280 pale skin, type one skin. So the fact that Roxy 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:29.760 has been pushing this as a normal message to her 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:30.880 daughter is quite concerning. 0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:31.200 Yeah. 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:35.240 Well, redheads are significantly more prone to skin cancer, particularly melanoma. 0:11:35.280 --> 0:11:38.040 In fact, their risk of melanoma is ten to one 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:40.800 hundred times higher than those without red hair. 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:43.640 So fuck it gets me worried. 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:47.360 We're going to the Yes, come on to road it 0:11:47.480 --> 0:11:47.760 with us. 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:50.640 Oh my goodness, I've already been freaking out because they've 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:55.599 just given us our dream car to drive. UK influencers. 0:11:55.640 --> 0:11:58.520 Saffron Barker's dream trip to the US with her boyfriend 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:02.040 Josh Milne has turned into a nightmare. The couple are 0:12:02.080 --> 0:12:05.120 now stranded in the States after their passports were stolen 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:07.920 from the boot of their rental car. Sophie, it sounds 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:10.240 like it's been the holiday from hell. Why did I 0:12:10.240 --> 0:12:13.079 get Matt Lucas's voice in my head? With Saffron also 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:15.840 being hospitalized, Yeah, it really seems to be one thing 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:17.800 after the other on this trip. It was the first 0:12:17.880 --> 0:12:19.880 time that Saffron was traveling to the US with her 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:21.959 boyfriend and the third time this year, though well the 0:12:22.000 --> 0:12:23.719 third time for her first time with her and a 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:24.440 new boyfriend. 0:12:24.800 --> 0:12:24.920 Now. 0:12:25.040 --> 0:12:27.800 Saffron shared an Instagram story of her sitting in a 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:31.720 very fancy dentist chair and her eyes looked incredibly puffy, 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:34.199 like she'd been crying, and she was holding onto this 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:37.840 stuffed toy rat Now. The caption read, in the last week, 0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:41.160 I have been in hospital, had emergency surgery, got my 0:12:41.240 --> 0:12:44.520 rental car completely smashed up, and every single thing I 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:48.360 own stolen, including my passport, so I can't get home. 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:50.559 When I saw this, I immediately sent it to you 0:12:50.640 --> 0:12:52.760 because I was like, fuck, what is going on? 0:12:52.960 --> 0:12:53.640 Well, she looked. 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:56.880 Completely broken, and the post generated a lot of confusion 0:12:56.960 --> 0:12:59.640 because Saffron has been in the US for a few 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:02.840 weeks now on a brand shoot, and she also attended 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:05.719 Stage Coach with her sister in law, and one of 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:08.360 the big reasons that she is also in the US 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:10.280 is to get her teeth fixed. We spoke about this 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:13.400 in depth on the Subs episode because for the past 0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:16.920 year she has been trolled and ridiculed about her veneers. 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:19.520 So she opened up last week that she had been 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:22.920 considering suing her London based dentist over them. 0:13:23.040 --> 0:13:24.520 Yeah, because she previously. 0:13:24.160 --> 0:13:26.360 Tried in Visilne, which I think a lot of influencers 0:13:26.440 --> 0:13:28.679 were doing at the time, but she hated wearing the 0:13:28.720 --> 0:13:31.840 plates because she's very self conscious about having a lisp 0:13:32.000 --> 0:13:32.560 on camera. 0:13:33.040 --> 0:13:35.079 So her dentist allegedly. 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:37.560 Convinced her that he could make her teeth perfect by 0:13:37.640 --> 0:13:40.320 adding just two veneers at the front of her smile. 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:44.079 So the two venirs quickly turned into four and it 0:13:44.200 --> 0:13:46.840 left her teeth looking really mismatched in colour because they 0:13:46.880 --> 0:13:50.560 were just so white, and they also were way too 0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:53.040 big for her mouth. She ended up actually having to 0:13:53.160 --> 0:13:56.680 go to a second local dentist who attempted to fix 0:13:56.800 --> 0:13:59.240 her teeth, and they ended up having to add even 0:13:59.320 --> 0:14:03.480 more veneers, which left her with this very unnatural looking smile. 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:06.440 The worst bit is she didn't actually update her audience 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:08.720 to say she was getting veneers, so she would attract 0:14:08.760 --> 0:14:10.480 so many comments to like, what is going on with 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:13.079 your teeth because it made her look like a completely 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:16.120 different person. Yeah, so she decided that while she was 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:18.120 in the US, why don't I go and fix my 0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:20.920 teeth for a third time, So she booked herself into 0:14:21.080 --> 0:14:25.280 this celebrity dentist called doctor John Marashi, who is based 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:29.360 in la He's actually the man behind Lindsay Lohan's new smile. 0:14:29.480 --> 0:14:32.200 Last year, there were so many before and after photos 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:35.240 of Lindsay's circulating on TikTok, because she'd had a lot 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:37.760 of really good work done, but also her teeth, because 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:40.280 during those years where she was in the public eye, 0:14:40.680 --> 0:14:43.280 Lindsay had a drug problem which affected the way her 0:14:43.360 --> 0:14:45.680 teeth looked, and everyone was saying, oh my god, she 0:14:45.760 --> 0:14:47.480 looks so much better with these new veniers. 0:14:47.480 --> 0:14:48.360 They're very natural. 0:14:48.560 --> 0:14:51.160 It's because her teeth actually look like what they used 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:53.360 to look like, and I think that was shaped to them. Yeah, 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:55.160 And I think that's where a lot of influencers and 0:14:55.200 --> 0:14:57.760 celebrities have gone wrong. They've all jumped on this bandwagon 0:14:57.840 --> 0:15:00.520 and got these big white, fake veneers and I think 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:02.200 we're going to see a lot of people reversing them 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:05.240 to much more natural looking teeth now. Saffron's post led 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:08.840 many people to speculate that maybe she'd been unlucky again 0:15:08.920 --> 0:15:12.280 and had medical complications due to her third set of veneers, 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:15.280 because again, this photo was taken of her at the 0:15:15.360 --> 0:15:17.560 dentists all like she was speaking about having this terrible 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:20.000 time at the dentist, you were following the speculation. The 0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:22.560 next day, Saffron shared a post gushing about her new 0:15:22.640 --> 0:15:25.160 teeth so. She wrote, after all the dramas I've had 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:27.840 this trip, there's been a lot, I'm still smiling because 0:15:27.880 --> 0:15:31.080 of the incredible work doctor John has done to transform 0:15:31.120 --> 0:15:33.880 my smile back to being mine again. After having such 0:15:33.960 --> 0:15:36.280 bad experience with dental work in the past, I was 0:15:36.320 --> 0:15:38.800 honestly scarred and didn't think I'd ever be able to 0:15:38.840 --> 0:15:41.640 sit in a dentist's chair again. But then I met John, 0:15:41.760 --> 0:15:44.520 who completely changed that. There are some people in life 0:15:44.600 --> 0:15:47.000 you know, are just special people, and this man has 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:49.960 proved that and given me faith back in humanity. Thank you, 0:15:50.080 --> 0:15:53.400 doctor John. Your understanding, care and attention in and out 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:57.120 of office hours are beyond any expectation. I'll be eternally 0:15:57.200 --> 0:15:59.520 grateful for your kindness. It's definitely a bit of a 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:02.600 back pet there. I feel like his team saw her 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:07.240 Instagram story of her sitting inconsolable in his chair and 0:16:07.360 --> 0:16:10.160 were like, clear this up immediately because this is a 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:13.000 very gushy post. The fact that she said he's restored 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:15.440 her faith in humanity. I mean that's a massive call. 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:15.960 Yeah. 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:18.680 Well, it also makes me feel like the dental work 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:21.640 must have been gifted, because why else is she doing 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:23.560 a post about it and showing off his work. 0:16:23.440 --> 0:16:24.720 And saying how fantastic he is. 0:16:25.080 --> 0:16:26.280 Or it could be a case that he was so 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:28.320 pissed off that it looked like she was inferring things 0:16:28.360 --> 0:16:30.760 had gone wrong that she had to post this to 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:33.400 kind of smooth things over with him, or anyone can 0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:35.200 see looking at the photos that her teeth look a 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:37.880 million times better. They look so much more natural. They 0:16:37.960 --> 0:16:40.360 have this really nice shape to them, because before her 0:16:40.400 --> 0:16:42.680 teeth just sort of they just went in one line 0:16:42.680 --> 0:16:43.920 and they were all the same size. 0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:45.240 They just looked so unnatural. 0:16:45.400 --> 0:16:48.400 She looks so much younger as well. Yeah, she looks 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:51.960 more like herself now. Saffron has still kept her followers 0:16:52.040 --> 0:16:56.120 in the dark about what this medical emergency actually was, 0:16:56.280 --> 0:16:59.320 and many people have accused her of clickbaiting the story 0:16:59.680 --> 0:17:03.000 to be anticipation for when she does a full storytime 0:17:03.080 --> 0:17:05.920 on a YouTube channel. She did open up, though, on 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:08.639 TikTok about her rental car being robs so in a 0:17:08.720 --> 0:17:10.760 post on TikTok, she shared a video of her and 0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:13.520 her boyfriend Josh singing in the car on their way 0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:16.080 to Las Vegas and wrote, they don't know it yet, 0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:18.760 but in two hours time into their dream road trip, 0:17:18.840 --> 0:17:21.520 they'll end up getting their rental cars smashed up and 0:17:21.640 --> 0:17:25.440 everything they had with them stolen, including their passports. She 0:17:25.600 --> 0:17:27.680 then followed it up with a vlog of their road 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:30.159 trip a day later. So, Josh had met up with 0:17:30.240 --> 0:17:33.600 Saffron in La just days before, and they'd planned to 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:35.200 do a four hour road trip. 0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:35.879 To Las Vegas. 0:17:36.000 --> 0:17:39.000 And it was pretty awkward because in the opening scenes 0:17:39.080 --> 0:17:42.160 of this TikTok vlog, Saffron said she was so excited 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:45.000 because the rental company had given them their dream car, 0:17:45.560 --> 0:17:47.080 and she felt as though they had a lot of 0:17:47.240 --> 0:17:49.760 luck on their side that morning, looking by the full 0:17:49.800 --> 0:17:52.960 shadowing Yeah. Josh then spoke about being nervous driving the 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:55.879