1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:01,920 Speaker 1: Now. Yesterday on the show, you would have heard me 2 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: read out a message from a concerned territory and wanting 3 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: to make us aware of a Darwin family currently stuck 4 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: in Israel amongst the war. The Palmerston family had to 5 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: flee from Tel Aviv on Saturday to somewhere safer before 6 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: heading back to Tel Aviv, as I understand it, yesterday 7 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: as they were told that it meant they would be 8 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 1: safer there. They can't get out any earlier. They've got 9 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: flights booked back to Darwin, as I understand it, on Wednesday, 10 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: which is actually Thursday night, Darwin time. And some of 11 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: the stories coming out of Israel right now are absolutely horrible. 12 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: Children and babies reportedly being killed. It's not only horrible, 13 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: but it's absolutely unimaginable. Now joining me on the line 14 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: from Tel Aviv is Asha Lily. Good morning to you. 15 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 2: Asha, Hi Katie, how are you today? 16 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: I think I'm in a much better place than you 17 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: right now? Can you tell us exactly where you are? 18 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 2: So we're currently in Tel Aviv, right, yeah, right now. 19 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 2: We arrived back here yesterday morning. 20 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: And Asha, you're traveling, you're from Palmerston. You're traveling with 21 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: your family, and you're obviously in Israel on holidays, is 22 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: that correct? 23 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, we came here to visit my parents' really 24 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 2: close family friend who they've known for just before I 25 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 2: was born. So he's actually Australian but he now lived 26 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 2: in Israel with his wife and their three daughters. 27 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: Asha, when did you first learn of that horrendous attack 28 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: that had happened on Sunday and when things were starting 29 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: to go badly? 30 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 2: So we woke up Saturday morning to sirens and we 31 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 2: were then told it's all good, basically because it's not 32 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 2: necessarily an unheard of thing in Israel for Fiens to go. 33 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 2: We then went out for breakfast and as we were 34 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 2: walking back, we heard the Firroens go again and then 35 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 2: actually saw missiles flying overhead and we had to quickly 36 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 2: run and hide. And from then that was kind of 37 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 2: when the news started to kind of come out about 38 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 2: what was actually happening and about what we've actually found 39 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 2: ourselves in the middle of. So yeah, it was pretty terrifying, 40 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 2: to say the least. 41 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: Azure for most of us here in the Northern Territory. 42 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: You know, we cannot even imagine what it feels like 43 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: right now, can you paint a bit of a picture 44 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 1: for us as to, you know, to where you are 45 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:49,959 Speaker 1: and what it's been like over the last couple of days. 46 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 2: We're really lucky to have our friends here who have 47 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 2: been so supportive and have kept us safe, but it's 48 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 2: still been absolutely terrifying. We've been having to My sister 49 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 2: and I were sleeping in a bomb shelter and we 50 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 2: actually yesterday afternoon had to go on to lockdown as 51 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 2: the town near us had been invaded basically, and they 52 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 2: were missiles and we could hear open fire happening, which 53 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 2: was just so scary to be that close to anything 54 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 2: like that. It's just something you never expect to find 55 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 2: yourself in. And I just I can't even begin to 56 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 2: describe how scared and just not knowing what every hour 57 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 2: will bring you. You just don't know. One hour could 58 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 2: be quiet and you could feel like it's okay, and 59 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 2: then you know the next hour you're just wondering, am 60 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 2: I even going to make it out of this? So, yeah, 61 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 2: it's been horrible. 62 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: Oh how's your whole family feeling at this point? Because 63 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: I would imagine that there's also a lot of uncertainty 64 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: in terms of trying to get back. I know you've 65 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: got flights booked, but where are things at with those? 66 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 2: So currently we're looked in on a flight which is leaving, 67 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 2: so I'm sorry, I'm stuck with days tomorrow. Yeah, so 68 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 2: we are just honestly hoping. We kind of can't think 69 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 2: about what would happen if the flight doesn't go because 70 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 2: we just really don't know what we would do. So 71 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 2: I guess we're just trying to stay positive and just 72 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 2: hoping that our flight takes off and we're able to 73 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 2: get out of here. 74 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, I think that is the only way that 75 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 1: you can be right now thinking that yep, you are 76 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: going to be heading out and heading back to Australia 77 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: as was there any capacity for you to be able 78 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 1: to change your flight? So you're flying with Quantus because 79 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: there's also been reports that they're charging people in arm 80 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: in a lake to be able to get out. 81 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, so luckily we're flying with Emirates, but we've heard 82 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 2: from other people that when they went to change their flights, 83 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 2: Quantas were charging through the roof for them to be 84 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 2: able to change it. I've heard that they've since changed that, 85 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 2: but the fact that that even happened in the first 86 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 2: place is just, in my opinion, appalling when most other 87 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 2: airlines were allowing people to just change their flights free 88 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 2: of charbe. So we tried to change our flight, but 89 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 2: most flights only had one seat, and we wanted to 90 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 2: try and stay together if we could, so the earliest 91 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 2: we could go was Wednesday Wednesday night, so we're just 92 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 2: sticking with that. 93 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 1: And in terms of like getting to the airport and 94 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: that kind of thing, is you know, is the passage 95 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: for you to be able to get there? Are like 96 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 1: is it all? I mean, I don't even know if 97 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: it's a stupid thing to ask, is it safe for 98 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 1: you to be able to get there? 99 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 2: I mean, we just we had to catch the train 100 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 2: yesterday from the north of It's Row to tell Aviv, 101 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 2: and we just again couldn't even really think about what 102 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 2: we would do if something happened while we're on the train, 103 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 2: or if myselves were around while we were on the train. 104 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:29,359 Speaker 2: It's a little bit like life kind of keeps on 105 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 2: going here in tele Aviv. There's still taxi drivers and 106 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 2: all of that stuff, but it's definitely a bit of 107 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 2: a growth Channe since then, so our hotel has said 108 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 2: that they've got a taxi driver ready for us to go. 109 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 2: We're just gonna go straight from here to the airport 110 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 2: and we're just again going to keep hoping that that 111 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 2: just happens and that it'll all be okay. 112 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: ASUA, has the Australian government been supportive and communicate to you, 113 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: what's it been like in terms of trying to get 114 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: some support or communication from the Australian government. 115 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 2: It's been completely lacking. So we called the embassy on 116 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:18,239 Speaker 2: Saturday night and registered our details with them, and since 117 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 2: then we received one email and then we finally received 118 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 2: a phone call about eight hours ago, just telling us 119 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 2: the same things, just to check flights and to keep 120 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 2: checking a smart Traveler website, which I just don't feel 121 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 2: like it's good enough. I don't expect a free flight 122 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 2: back to Australia, I understand, but it's not as easy 123 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 2: as clicking your fingers, but even just an email or 124 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 2: a call asking how we're going, explaining that they're doing 125 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 2: what they can to try and keep us safe. It's 126 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 2: just there's just been no communication. We've had more info 127 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 2: from our travel agents than we have the Australian government, 128 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 2: and I just don't feel like it's good enough. What's 129 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 2: the point of having embassies in these other countries when 130 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 2: they're not even here to actually support us when things 131 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 2: hit the fan? 132 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: Well, there's literally, literally you're in a war zone. And 133 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: if you can't get that support from the Australian Embassy 134 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: at that point in time, when can you? 135 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 2: Yeah? Literally, And I was actually stuck in London through 136 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 2: twenty twenty and this is the exact same thing that happened, 137 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 2: So it's not like it's a first time thing. The 138 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 2: embassy just needs to All of the embassies just need 139 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 2: to start doing better and actually support the Australian people. Otherwise, 140 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 2: what's the point of them, what's the point of having 141 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 2: them there? 142 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: I think it's a fair question. I know that the 143 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: Federal Opposition right now is calling on the government to 144 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 1: have some repatriation flights coming out of of Israel. Do 145 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 1: you think that that's a good idea? 146 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 2: Oh, one hundred percent. I just we've met lots of 147 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 2: Ozzies through our weeks of being here, and a lot 148 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 2: of them were older Australians and so I just wonder 149 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 2: how they're getting their information, you know, how they're able 150 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 2: to Some probably don't even have a SIM card, so 151 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 2: I just think that it's necessary. Other countries have been 152 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 2: able to do it within twenty four hours. So it's 153 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 2: nearly day five and we've received email and a phone 154 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 2: call telling us to check Smart Traveler. It's just again 155 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 2: not good enough, and I think the bare minimums to 156 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 2: organized flights even just sit you by, just to at 157 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 2: least get ozzies out of here. 158 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: Asure. I know the Foreign Minister Penny Wong says that 159 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: the government's looking at all options to help Australian citizens 160 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:52,839 Speaker 1: leave Israel, but it doesn't sound like you're feeling that 161 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 1: that is the case at the moment. 162 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I'm not feeling good at all. We 163 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 2: haven't even heard anything from Penny Wong the whole time 164 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 2: until I think it was yesterday when I and a 165 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 2: friend say, oh, Penny said that she's helping Australians get out, 166 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 2: and I said, well, that would be really nice for 167 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 2: her to tell us that, because right now we feel 168 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:19,319 Speaker 2: so alone and so isolated, and we have no idea 169 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 2: what to do. 170 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: Oh Asha, I cannot, like I said earlier, I cannot 171 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: even imagine how you and your family must be feeling 172 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: at this point in time. I bet you just cannot 173 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 1: wait to get back to your home in Palmerston. 174 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. I literally have never been so excited to be 175 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 2: back in Pumston, which is a funny thing to say that. Yeah, 176 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 2: I really just I feel lucky that we can even 177 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 2: leave this and that we have a home to go 178 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 2: to in a safe country. 179 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: So yeah, you're so right. I mean, honestly, some of 180 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: the stories that are coming out today are just herrin 181 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: you know. There are reports of children and babies being killed. 182 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:11,079 Speaker 1: It is. It's just such a terribly frightening and sad situation. 183 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: And you're right, you know, you're so lucky to be 184 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: from a country like Australia. We all are, and I 185 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: just hope that you guys can get home safely and 186 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: quickly as soon as possible. 187 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Yeah, we are hoping and praying 188 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:26,839 Speaker 2: go to you. 189 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Asha, when you get back or please keep 190 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: us up to date and we'll do the same. You know, 191 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: we will certainly put in a request as well to 192 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: the federal government to find out exactly what they are 193 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: doing to try to ensure that people like yourself and 194 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: your family get home as quickly as possible. So we 195 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: will do our best to try and help you from 196 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 1: this side of things, and please keep us up to 197 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 1: date and let us know how things are going from 198 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: your side. 199 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely will. Thank you so much. I really 200 00:11:57,679 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 2: appreciate that, and I know that all of the others, 201 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 2: let us stuck over here, would appreciate it as well. 202 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. Asha, thank you so much for your time this morning. 203 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: I know it's very early and I know that we've 204 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: woken you up, so I really appreciate you speaking with us. 205 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 2: No, that's fine, Thank you so much. I finally got 206 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 2: to sleep after not sleeping over the past four days. 207 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 2: But that's okay. This was worth thank you. 208 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: Thanks so much, Asha,