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Speaker 1: Now joining me live in the studio is the Deputy

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Speaker 1: Chief Minister and also Minister for Corrections and various other portfolios.

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Speaker 1: Jared Maylee, good morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Good morning Katie, and good morning listeners.

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Speaker 1: Now, Deputy Chief Minister, firstly, what was your reaction to

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Speaker 1: the federal election on the weekend. I mean it was

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Speaker 1: a bit of a thrashing for the coalition.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, certainly, very disappointing from my behalf, and a big

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Speaker 2: shout out to all the candidates who didn't make a

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Speaker 2: considering for the salp the two leases. I know they

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Speaker 2: did a power of work and worked really hard, but

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Speaker 2: they didn't get across the line. It's unfortunate and we're

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Speaker 2: looking forward to working with the new government. Doesn't matter

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Speaker 2: who it is could we want to fight for what's

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Speaker 2: best for the Northern territory.

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Speaker 1: Now tell me, I mean there's no doubt there's going

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Speaker 1: to be a bit of soul searching. I think from

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Speaker 1: the coalition's perspective, what message do you think Ozzie's was

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Speaker 1: sort of trying to send to the conservative side of

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Speaker 1: politics in Australia. And do you think that there's any

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Speaker 1: lessons that need to be learned from this for the COLP.

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Speaker 2: Well, look, I think the big lesson is you need

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Speaker 2: to listen to the community and you need to run

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Speaker 2: what the community wants. You might sit up here in

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Speaker 2: Parliament health matter where you are in Australia across the

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Speaker 2: world and think you know it all, but I think

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Speaker 2: the message is that you don't. You need to get

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Speaker 2: back into the community. You need to listen to people,

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Speaker 2: you need to go out to community events, you need

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Speaker 2: to go for me, into Fred's past and just talk

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Speaker 2: to people about what their concerns are. And I think

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Speaker 2: get back to that really grassroots basic what do you

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Speaker 2: want If people look after their family, they want to

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Speaker 2: make sure that they've got a job, they've got somewhere

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Speaker 2: to live. So we need to really focus on the

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Speaker 2: community wants and needs and just bring it back to

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Speaker 2: the basics, I think, Katie.

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Speaker 1: Well, and look, one of those basics for us here

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Speaker 1: is safe. Now we know the Northern Territory governments set

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Speaker 1: to announce this morning that you're going to be allocating

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Speaker 1: four hundred and ninety five million dollars directly to corrections

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Speaker 1: in the twenty five twenty six budget. There's also going

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Speaker 1: to be additional funding held in contingency to be drawn

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Speaker 1: down to address corrections, demand pressures as required. What is

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Speaker 1: this budget allocation actually going to meet in a practical

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Speaker 2: So look in a practical sense, Okatie. What this is

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Speaker 2: going to do is make sure that we can provide

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Speaker 2: a prison system that works and is functional across the

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Speaker 2: Northern Territory, not only for keeping prisoners off the streets,

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Speaker 2: but also for the prison officers and the people who

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Speaker 2: work in the correction system to make sure that they

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Speaker 2: can go to work, that their systems work and they've

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Speaker 2: got enough staff. We know that over the last eight years,

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Speaker 2: the previous labor government neglected the prison system, which put

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Speaker 2: us into watchhouses and staff shortages and all sorts of issues.

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Speaker 2: We've been in office for about eight or nine months,

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Speaker 2: so we're starting to unwind that and effectively we've built

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Speaker 2: We've got holts up and raining, we've got alice springs going.

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Speaker 2: But the job is only just started, Kadie, and there's

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Speaker 2: a lot more to do and that's why we've got

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Speaker 2: this record budget of four hundred and ninety five million

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Speaker 2: We're doing that. We're putting the money into the system

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Speaker 2: to keep the prisoners safe, to keep the correction safe,

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Speaker 1: Now, I want to know what's new in this funding,

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Speaker 1: because there's eighty million dollars in the twenty five twenty

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Speaker 1: through additional staffing and the operational capacity including expanding health services.

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Speaker 1: So about forty million from the look of it this

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Speaker 1: So what like, how much is new?

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Speaker 2: Okay? So effectively, Katie, we've got about one hundred and

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Speaker 2: and also the ones are coming because we do know

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Speaker 2: that we've passed them tough as bail laws into previous week,

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Speaker 1: And those numbers continue to rise since, so that all

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Speaker 1: are we expecting to see an increase immediately?

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Speaker 2: Well, the laws will change, and the courts and the

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Speaker 2: it kicks off. The commencement data is tomorrow. So if

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Speaker 1: Now, I just want to go through some of these fundings.

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Speaker 1: So by the look of about forty million dollars this

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Speaker 1: contingency as I said, to draw down corrections pressures as needed.

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Speaker 1: Six million dollars is ongoing for additional electronic monitoring capacity.

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Speaker 1: Then there's a further four point two million allocated for

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Speaker 1: domestic and family violence programs. Now, in terms of the

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Speaker 1: this is a really important thing. And in terms of

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Speaker 1: community needs to be safe in terms if you don't

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Speaker 1: want violent offenders out on the streets, but what work

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Speaker 1: are they doing when they are then, you know, behind

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Speaker 2: Yes, Katie. Look, there is a range of programs which

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Speaker 2: are running in the prison and for example, you can

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Speaker 2: Support and rec programs. There's a whole list of programs

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Speaker 2: out a better person. There's a whole range of site

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Speaker 2: the Rage program yep. There's psychological programs, addictive behavior program

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Speaker 2: sex offender programs, behavior change programs. All that's in the

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Speaker 2: up and running, and that's what this money is for

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Speaker 2: to make sure that those programs continue to operate and

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Speaker 2: expand their numbers because we know that we need to

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Speaker 2: make sure that we break our cycle. Because what the

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Speaker 2: CLP is committed to is keeping the community safe and

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Speaker 1: Want to do now in terms of On Friday, the

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Speaker 1: being handed down next week. So is this is the

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Speaker 1: Is it? So? On Friday there was the government had

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Speaker 1: sort of the same pool of pole the money?

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Speaker 2: It's about keeping the community safe. And unlike the previous

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Speaker 2: they forgot about the court system, they forgot about the

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Speaker 2: correctional system, we're making sure that all those programs systems

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Speaker 1: Well, look, and I think you know the thing is

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Speaker 1: we're not a full year in of the CLP being

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Speaker 2: And that's why we're putting that four hundred and ninety

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Speaker 1: A review of the way in which that electronic monitoring

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Speaker 2: Well, look, we are reviewing it at all the time,

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Speaker 1: To the legislation that needs to change with that.

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Speaker 2: There's some Surveillance Act legislation. I understand these, and also

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Speaker 1: Because so how quickly do you reckon that could happen?

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Speaker 2: Well, we've got people working on at right now and

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Speaker 2: I think it happened with me quickly, Katie. Because there

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Speaker 2: to make it better, to make it more functional, so

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Speaker 2: the police have real time access to be able to

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Speaker 2: see where people are on electronic monitoring now.

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Speaker 1: I know on Friday, the ABC was reporting the other

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Speaker 1: Northern Territory governments having to spend four hundred and sixty

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Speaker 1: What's caused that damage? For which I thought it was

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Speaker 2: which is ninety six beds. There's a new courtyard, there's

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Speaker 1: So no additional work following on from you know, from

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Speaker 1: those riots or anything that we've seen, any of that

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Speaker 1: it was actually last year or the year before even

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Speaker 1: potentially or has that all been fixed up now?

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Speaker 2: Look, Katie, I don't want to mislead you. I don't

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Speaker 1: We can follow it up right now.

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Speaker 2: I know that I've been to all the correction facilities

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Speaker 2: and they are short staffed. We need to make sure

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Speaker 2: that we get that funding happening and that's what we're doing.

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Speaker 2: Four hundred and ninety five million dollars one hundred and

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Speaker 2: that is going to be the health four point one

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Speaker 2: million dollars is for family violence programs. We need to

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Speaker 2: make sure with these increasing prison numbers numbers that the

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Speaker 1: A listener question that came in last week health services

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Speaker 1: for youth in detention? Has Danilla Dilbert pulled out? And

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Speaker 2: If they are have pulled out and are Look, I

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Speaker 2: don't want to again this lee, but I know that

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Speaker 2: they've got a program in place in relation to that,

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Speaker 2: so those children aren't missing out on health services. Again,

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Speaker 2: I don't know that.

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Speaker 1: Any idea why Danilla Dilba pulled out of that service.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't, and I understand that Chriestans we're trying

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Speaker 1: A bit of a planning question for you, because I

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Speaker 1: know there's been a lot of discussion about this last

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Speaker 1: contact with us and had asked, Hi, Katie. We bought

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Speaker 1: with the understanding Woddell would be developed in the near future.

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Speaker 1: That has not happened, and Virginia Road is incredibly busy

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Speaker 1: are not safe on that road. Wdell needs to be

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Speaker 2: Well, Woddell is a very expensive episode, and ultimately, with

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Speaker 2: prioritize taxpayer money. And Widell would be a lovely new

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Speaker 2: it's about rubuni economy and restoring our lifestyle.

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Speaker 1: Now I've got one just a moment ago. This isn't

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Speaker 1: necessarily for you, but I guess it's the Deputy Chief Minister.

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Speaker 1: It's a good one to ask. Now this person is saying,

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Speaker 1: can you please ask why nothing's improved the bus travel,

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Speaker 1: drinking alcohol, yelling, fighting, it's all the norm on the buses,

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Speaker 1: and the inspectors do not travel on them. They're actually

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Speaker 1: I know it's not your portfolio.

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Speaker 2: Look, I know I have been speaking to Bill Yan,

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Speaker 2: my understanding is they're looking at reviewing it so there

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Speaker 2: are give me no interchanges to make it safer, because

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Speaker 2: we've heard loud and clear that the are buses and

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Speaker 2: I know that we're working on that, and I can't

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Speaker 2: give you exactly where it's that in relation to it,

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Speaker 2: but I do know that Minister Yan has been working

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Speaker 2: it is safe to be able to ride a public

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Speaker 2: happens in those areas.

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Speaker 1: But it is something that we've spoken to Bill about

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Speaker 1: so we might try and getting back on the show.

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Speaker 1: Jared Mailey Minister full corrections also Deputy Chief Minister. Will

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Speaker 1: leave it there for now. Thank you very much for

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Speaker 1: your time this morning.

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Speaker 2: Thank you