WEBVTT - Colin Fassnidge - MY KITCHEN RULES - Celebrity Chef 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:01.760 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:04.880 TV Reload, the podcast Past Deep. They welcome back guys 0:00:04.920 --> 0:00:07.040 to TV Reload. As you may know, my name is 0:00:07.080 --> 0:00:09.600 Benjamin Norris and this is your podcast to get all 0:00:09.640 --> 0:00:12.119 the insight goss all the popular TV shows you may 0:00:12.160 --> 0:00:15.560 be watching from around the world. 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On today's podcast, 0:00:43.800 --> 0:00:46.919 I have celebrity chef Colin Fashinage, who returns to one 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:50.240 of Australia's favorite cooking shows, My Kitchen Rules. This Monday 0:00:50.320 --> 0:00:53.159 night at seven point thirty, Colin will travel across the 0:00:53.200 --> 0:00:56.640 country to meet Australia's most passionate Home Cooks with fellow 0:00:56.760 --> 0:00:59.920 co host and judge Manu. They will meet real people 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:03.280 cooking real food in their homes, all competing for the 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:06.240 chance to be crowned the twenty twenty three MKR Champion 0:01:06.440 --> 0:01:10.360 and take home one hundred thousand dollars. Joining Manu and 0:01:10.440 --> 0:01:15.080 Colin this season is international food superstar Nigella Lawson. Nigella 0:01:15.200 --> 0:01:18.840 returns to judge the finals week at KITCHENAQ, where the 0:01:18.920 --> 0:01:22.800 qualifying teams will compete in a high pressure cookoff. I 0:01:22.840 --> 0:01:26.479 will talk about Colin's personal relationship with Manu, former co 0:01:26.560 --> 0:01:30.360 host Pete Evans, and his old Jungle bff Abby Chatfield. 0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:33.959 Colin will explain why the conflict and catfights gives him 0:01:33.959 --> 0:01:36.920 the shits and shares why this year he and Manu 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:40.319 gave the most amount of tens. Along the way, we 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:43.080 will unpack the psychology of the show and you will 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:45.559 find out who he would prefer to have at dinner 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:49.720 date with Manu or Nigel Lawson. Plus, we will get 0:01:49.720 --> 0:01:52.760 plenty of exclusives from behind the scenes of MKR, which, 0:01:52.800 --> 0:01:55.440 as I mentioned, returns this week on Channel seven and 0:01:55.480 --> 0:01:58.320 you'll be able to catch up on seven Plus. Anyway. 0:01:58.400 --> 0:02:01.360 Let's bring Colin into the podcast, and guys, I hope 0:02:01.400 --> 0:02:03.919 you enjoyed this very interesting look at the new season 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:08.120 of MKR. Hey, Colin, how are you hello? Good? I'm good, buddy, 0:02:08.200 --> 0:02:10.359 Very excited to be talking to you about my kitchen 0:02:10.400 --> 0:02:11.560 rules for twenty twenty three. 0:02:12.360 --> 0:02:12.919 Yeah. Good. 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:15.280 You know. I'm actually at my friend's place at the moment, 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:18.200 who was so excited that I was talking to you 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:21.000 because she was like, make sure you say thank you 0:02:21.080 --> 0:02:25.040 for the butcher's cut chicken recipe which was in Delicious 0:02:25.080 --> 0:02:27.639 magazine like maybe five years ago, because she's been using 0:02:27.639 --> 0:02:30.200 that recipe of yours for Christmas every year. 0:02:30.320 --> 0:02:31.720 Oh really, that's good, isn't it. 0:02:31.760 --> 0:02:33.080 Do you know which one I'm talking about? 0:02:33.600 --> 0:02:35.720 Is it the chicken THI recipe? 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:37.920 It the chicken one with the bread? I think she 0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:39.720 uses like a sour dough bread with it. 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:43.000 But oh no, it's called the famous chicken bread. 0:02:43.200 --> 0:02:44.799 Oh okay, well I've got it wrong. 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:47.160 That's not Delicious, that's my res No. 0:02:47.200 --> 0:02:49.519 I know, it's yours. It was your recipe and Delicious 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:52.280 magazine that she now uses every year. So I'm in 0:02:52.320 --> 0:02:54.520 a house where you're like supremo famous. 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:57.440 That's good because I'm not supreme famous in my house. 0:02:59.160 --> 0:03:01.800 You should be should be you know, I want to 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:04.839 say straight away, my Kitchen Rules is back and you're 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:06.919 back in the show, which is great. Are you excited 0:03:06.960 --> 0:03:09.600 for Australian audiences to see this later series. 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:11.800 I think what you're going to see is because me 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:14.640 and Manu did MK or New Zealand, so we've been 0:03:14.680 --> 0:03:16.799 on the route being a husband and wife or month 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:19.400 and then when we got to OZ, we sort of 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:22.520 hound how we work well together and what and we 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:24.640 had a lot of fun. So I think this season 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:27.359 you'll see like we really get on, like we've got 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:29.720 on for years. We live beside each other. Well you'll see, 0:03:29.919 --> 0:03:33.760 you know, there's a real respect and friendship between myself 0:03:33.760 --> 0:03:36.400 and Manu, and I think that's what shines this season. 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:39.720 Yeah. I think it's when people have genuine relationships with people, 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:42.360 the audiences can feel that. And I always wondered with 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:45.040 you and Manu, what sort of level of energy do 0:03:45.080 --> 0:03:47.240 you put into that friendship away from the cameras. Do 0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:49.280 you sort of try and work on that friendship to 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:51.320 make sure it's as authentic as it is. 0:03:51.560 --> 0:03:55.520 It's not really about audiences because we're friends, and like 0:03:56.120 --> 0:03:58.120 sometimes if we don't get on, and sometimes we do 0:03:58.160 --> 0:04:00.400 get on. We are like a married couple. And I 0:04:00.440 --> 0:04:03.760 think when we did when we did the New Zealand 0:04:03.960 --> 0:04:06.640 like we basically been living together for six weeks and 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:08.560 then we got off the plane and said let's not 0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:10.120 talk for a week, and then by the end of 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:11.400 the week we were like, oh, what are you doing? 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:16.120 I miss you? And like I got I went to 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:18.760 his house for Christmas lunch with my family and his family. 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:21.880 So it's not like we have to act. We just 0:04:22.080 --> 0:04:24.880 we get on. And I think sometimes the producers will 0:04:24.880 --> 0:04:26.680 like you get on too well, like you are actually 0:04:26.720 --> 0:04:27.520 doing your job. 0:04:29.160 --> 0:04:31.320 In different parts of exactly you sit over there. 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:34.400 Yes, sometimes they're like you know that. They're like, can 0:04:34.440 --> 0:04:39.279 you like just realize that we are filming? Oh sorry, sorry, let. 0:04:39.160 --> 0:04:40.279 Me just pull myself together. 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:40.680 You know. 0:04:40.920 --> 0:04:43.120 I want to ask you, because you have been over 0:04:43.160 --> 0:04:45.520 there to do the New Zealand show and then you've 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:47.600 been back here to do the Australian one, how do 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:50.159 we compare? Is it fair to ask you this question 0:04:50.200 --> 0:04:53.200 about what home cooking looks like in New Zealand compared 0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:53.919 to Australia. 0:04:54.360 --> 0:04:58.640 Well, New Zealand are very proud you know, like the 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:03.320 Marriag tradition and that was that was very interesting, but 0:05:03.440 --> 0:05:06.560 that was very good cooks. We worked a lot less 0:05:06.560 --> 0:05:08.920 hours as well over there, and we and we drank 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:11.840 too much over there. But anyway, over here, I think 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:14.960 this year, but then Australia is a different melting pod altogether. 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:18.200 Like you've got the Italians, the Indians, the you know 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:20.880 there was English, so it's a different sort of melting 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:23.680 pop up. I think both shells are as good as 0:05:23.720 --> 0:05:24.160 each other. Lot. 0:05:24.320 --> 0:05:27.240 I guess every season you'd probably come away with something new. 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:30.120 What's the biggest take home from this latest series that 0:05:30.160 --> 0:05:32.960 you've just completed here in Australia, you know, what have 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:36.400 you learned? Without giving too much away from what the audiences. 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:38.960 Might learn, we gave. We gave, I reckon the most 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:42.719 pens ever in MKA or this year, which is what 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:45.080 me and might now have been fighting for for years 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:47.599 because for us, I don't I don't care about the 0:05:47.680 --> 0:05:51.800 drama and blah blah blah. Someone that just ships me 0:05:51.880 --> 0:05:55.320 the tears. This year was all about family. There was 0:05:55.360 --> 0:05:59.159 a lot more love in the whole season. I reckon. 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:01.839 This is there's lots of people, there's lots of stories 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:05.359 of our families and cooking. And I think that's that's 0:06:05.440 --> 0:06:08.960 like obviously myself and man who are getting older now, 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:11.320 and that's the sort of food we want to eat 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:14.800 and we want that story behind the actual food. 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:17.320 Well, I think that is part of the success of 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:20.280 the formula of this show. A strange question to ask 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:22.200 you at this point, Ben, you know, out of Manu 0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:24.880 and Nigella, who's a better dinner party companion. 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:28.479 Well, see, that's two different dinners, totally two different dinners 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:31.960 because we actually took no Jella for dinner with our 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:34.279 wives and we were all like on our best behavior, 0:06:34.560 --> 0:06:36.880 and my Jella is amazing and Man who's like a 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:39.520 naughty child. So depends who you want to do you 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:41.360 want to have a civilized dinner or do you want 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:42.520 to have a naughty child dinner? 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:44.920 You have answer question? 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:49.440 He Well, Nigella's I've always had a crush on the 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:52.880 Jella and and she's always been a food hero of mine. 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:55.279 So I could see and have dinner with Nigella any 0:06:55.360 --> 0:06:57.760 night and just listen to herself because it's like she's 0:06:57.760 --> 0:07:01.640 swallowed the dictionary and the way she just elaborates their 0:07:01.680 --> 0:07:04.040 food on and I just sit there and owe I'm 0:07:04.120 --> 0:07:05.160 learning actually from her. 0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:07.160 I think we all feel like that when we're when 0:07:07.160 --> 0:07:10.200 we're watching her. It's interesting from your relationship of working 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:11.840 with the two of them, you know both of them 0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:14.720 over the last two years especially, but what have they 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:17.280 taught you? Well, if we can start with Manu, what 0:07:17.280 --> 0:07:20.200 has Manu taught you from your time working with him? 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:22.640 Well, mine and me sure to have the exact sort 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:25.800 of same food like gold and dreams and what we want. 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:29.080 I would say matt Man it was a bit more technical, 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:32.120 like he likes everything a bit more square and technical 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:34.440 and I'm a bit rough and ready. So we sort 0:07:34.480 --> 0:07:38.080 of argue a little bit about that. But we voute want, 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:40.760 you know, the best out of ingredients and people to 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:42.840 do the best and if you're going to do it, like, 0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:45.000 don't do it half as. I think that's what we 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:48.040 both want out of it. No, Jema, actually she's she 0:07:48.160 --> 0:07:50.520 gets into it so like she'd we stop on cameras 0:07:50.520 --> 0:07:52.680 and going like, I'm not happy with the way these 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:55.080 guys are doing this, so and we're like, wait, she's 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:56.160 getting into this big style. 0:07:56.280 --> 0:07:57.920 I think I like that about, you know, the being 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:00.320 very hands on though and sometimes it's nice to work 0:08:00.440 --> 0:08:02.360 someone who's a bit of a boss bitch so that 0:08:02.400 --> 0:08:03.200 you can sit back. 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:05.520 Oh yeah she is. She was like she she's the 0:08:05.520 --> 0:08:08.400 boss when in studio. But then we after we start 0:08:08.440 --> 0:08:10.440 a bond and then got on she's like, you're exactly 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:10.800 like me. 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:14.000 Was like, thank you, I'll take it, you know. And 0:08:14.040 --> 0:08:16.800 then this year we've put a completely different batch of contestants. 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:19.800 You know, there's some amazing people there. You've got Tom 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:23.120 and Rage from Western Australia. You've got the housemates, Nick 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:25.160 and Christian from Victoria. There's a whole range of them. 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:27.840 What do you think of the contestants this year? Is 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:30.480 there something different about this bunch of cooks. 0:08:30.680 --> 0:08:32.840 I think it's like you're like a school teacher and 0:08:33.000 --> 0:08:35.319 every year you get all these different people come in 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:38.880 and I reckon the class of twenty is it twenty 0:08:38.920 --> 0:08:42.120 three or twenty two? Twenty two? Years of twenty three? 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:45.600 What year is it? I think the class at twenty 0:08:45.640 --> 0:08:47.720 three was a highlight for me because it was it 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:49.959 was fun, and there's a few there's a few other 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:53.760 teams you haven't seen coming up that are in the 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:57.480 other two teams coming up who are outspoken and but 0:08:57.640 --> 0:09:01.000 I really like them, like they don't want the ones 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:04.600 who are outspoken, and I think I think everyone just 0:09:04.720 --> 0:09:07.000 had a lot of fun, I think this year, and 0:09:07.000 --> 0:09:09.520 that's what I like, because there's no point in not 0:09:09.520 --> 0:09:11.679 not doing this job and not having fun. And the 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:14.240 suit and the suit it showed in the foit and 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:16.719 showed in the in the in the evenings we had 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:18.600 around the table. Because I'm like to the guys, like 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:20.640 you might as well enjoy this, like this is a 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:23.400 great part of your life. Not everyone gets to do this, 0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:24.199 so enjoy it. 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:26.200 Do you pick favorites? Because I could imagine if I 0:09:26.280 --> 0:09:29.360 was you and I'd be watching the behavior of all 0:09:29.400 --> 0:09:33.480 these people, naturally I would start to pick favorites. Is 0:09:33.480 --> 0:09:35.079 that what happens throughout the series? 0:09:35.440 --> 0:09:38.760 Well, the thing is there's people you think are going 0:09:38.840 --> 0:09:41.560 to like win and then they drop the ball, and 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:44.200 then the ones you think, who are you really annoying 0:09:44.280 --> 0:09:46.120 me at this stage? And then they come good. So 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:48.319 it's like it's like I've got two kids, and I 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:50.240 don't have a favorite, Like, well, each week I have 0:09:50.280 --> 0:09:52.120 a different favorite. So that's the way it works, you 0:09:52.160 --> 0:09:55.080 know what I mean? Even I both my kids compete, 0:09:55.240 --> 0:09:57.760 so I'm like, one week, I like one kid and 0:09:57.840 --> 0:10:00.240 one I don't like you o kid. So it's be 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:02.520 the same as in my house as every other parents do. 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:05.640 It doesn't stop us as children though, asking our parents 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:07.280 who's the favorite? You know what I mean? 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:12.160 Yeah, I just tell them, no. 0:10:10.920 --> 0:10:13.440 None of you. At least give me who your favorite 0:10:13.600 --> 0:10:15.720 team is this year. I know this is hard because 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:18.120 you said that you don't like to pick favorites, but look, 0:10:18.120 --> 0:10:20.080 when it comes down to the crunch, who are the 0:10:20.080 --> 0:10:22.040 people to watch out of this season? 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:25.439 Am I allowed to say names that I'm like, we'll 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:26.440 be on the ard next week. 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:30.720 Just tell every interview you have someone different and that's 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:32.440 what gets you out of it. So you say to me, 0:10:32.920 --> 0:10:33.840 I love you know. 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:36.320 Yeah, well it's someone in the Alants next week, which 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:41.320 will be Claudine and Anthony. And I love Claudine because 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:43.439 she's I said, she's someone I would get I get 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:44.960 on with. You'll see why when you watch it. 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:46.960 Okay, well that's a good teast. They're from Queensland. I 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:48.000 like a good Queenslander. 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:51.240 Yeah so they are. You'll see when you watch it. 0:10:51.360 --> 0:10:53.880 But we had like back and forth. It was good. 0:10:53.920 --> 0:10:54.560 It's good banter. 0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:56.840 You know, I guess putting people on these high pressure 0:10:56.840 --> 0:10:59.280 situations like this, you know, gets a lot of drama 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:02.480 every year. But are you surprised that these people get 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:05.600 fiery every time they get a new bunch of people. 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:07.640 Is it just the nature of the format of this 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:09.440 show that you're going to get that out of people. 0:11:09.720 --> 0:11:12.400 Well, I was at a dinner to night in Bunderberg 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:15.400 and I had these real old oddie guys who are like, 0:11:15.559 --> 0:11:17.719 I would never go on that show. You know, you 0:11:17.840 --> 0:11:19.960 never get out there to me, and then we had 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:22.120 a glass of wine together and then they were telling 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:24.160 me about this dish they do with the wife, and 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:26.920 then the wife start arguing with him and he was like, no, no, no, 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:29.280 I do a better fishes dish, and then after half 0:11:29.360 --> 0:11:31.800 an hour said I've just got your entire story out 0:11:31.840 --> 0:11:34.320 of it in half an hour, and you would do 0:11:34.400 --> 0:11:36.440 the show. And then he's like, oh, I see what 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:38.880 you did there, and I'm like yeah. So people like 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:41.360 sort of they it's a dinner parody and they get 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:45.040 into it. And then obviously then when one team goes like, 0:11:45.120 --> 0:11:47.199 you've got a score on the board, so you've got 0:11:47.200 --> 0:11:49.240 to beat that score, and that's where it comes from. 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:51.760 Yeah, it's that competitive nature. But it's funny how they 0:11:51.800 --> 0:11:55.120 get turn on each other. It's human nature. I mean, 0:11:55.160 --> 0:11:57.560 I fight with my partner when we're trying to, you know, 0:11:57.600 --> 0:11:59.560 say to someone that we're better at something than the other. 0:11:59.720 --> 0:12:02.079 You know. I just come around my house at dinner time. 0:12:02.160 --> 0:12:05.199 It's like my wife just like tells me on one 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:07.840 the season this I'm over cooked that I'm like just 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:09.520 to cook you. 0:12:09.640 --> 0:12:11.360 Well, I guess that's the thing. I mean. Do you 0:12:11.400 --> 0:12:13.520 have your own dinner parties at home? And are they 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:15.720 just as dramatic as an MK at dinner party? 0:12:15.960 --> 0:12:18.280 They are when man who comes around, my wife actually 0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:20.360 kicks him out because he stays too late. She's like, 0:12:20.440 --> 0:12:21.080 we got to get up? 0:12:21.240 --> 0:12:23.480 Is she? Is she the sort of wife that's in 0:12:23.520 --> 0:12:25.319 there doing the dishes to let him know it's time 0:12:25.360 --> 0:12:25.800 to go home. 0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:27.959 Well, I'll tell you this story. And the reason I'll 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:29.679 tell you because I'm allowed to her because he told 0:12:29.720 --> 0:12:32.080 it earlier on this morning. Okay, I went to man 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:35.000 who's house for Christmas dinner a few years ago. This 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:37.360 this is a TV show in itself. I went to 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:39.680 a man who's house for Christmas dinner, and man who 0:12:39.800 --> 0:12:42.400 was playing a beer pond with his next door neighbor 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:44.920 right in the morning, so from nine am, so you know, 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:46.920 when you try the ball that goes in the cup. Yeah, 0:12:46.960 --> 0:12:50.160 and he lost several times, I would say. So when 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:52.520 I got to his house, he was blind right, and 0:12:52.600 --> 0:12:55.280 he was asleep. So I'd come around for Christmas lunch 0:12:55.360 --> 0:12:57.800 and the house was asleep, so I had to cook 0:12:57.840 --> 0:13:00.600 the lunch in his house. It was a big Wellington. 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:02.679 And then when he woke up, he told me I 0:13:02.800 --> 0:13:03.320 did it wrong. 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:08.600 I feel like there's a joke. Yeah, like how many 0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:10.520 grames does how many cooks does it take to make 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:11.319 a Christmas lunch? 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:13.840 You know? Yeah? Yeah, And if you interview him after, 0:13:13.920 --> 0:13:16.480 you ask him about that Christmas lunch, because I guarantee it. 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:18.800 I love a bit of drama. And I think you 0:13:18.800 --> 0:13:20.760 were saying before that you're there for the food and 0:13:20.800 --> 0:13:23.720 the drama's kind of second course. But what would you say, 0:13:23.800 --> 0:13:26.560 is the most memorable piece of drama that you've seen 0:13:26.640 --> 0:13:29.080 unfold over the time that you've been on this show. 0:13:29.440 --> 0:13:32.160 Oh my god, something that stays in your mind. 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:37.040 Yeah, I've seen soul, I've seen I've seen the best 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:40.400 and the worst of people. That's what I've seen, like 0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:42.360 in the early days. I was like, wow, because it 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:44.360 was just a chef coming on for a shell. They 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:46.560 want is going on here? I can tell you some 0:13:46.960 --> 0:13:49.680 really bad dishes that I said to people I wouldn't eat, 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:51.920 and then they sort of stormed off. I think I 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:55.199 had like a squid dish with some lamb and I 0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:57.640 was and fished out of season with fished off and 0:13:57.679 --> 0:13:59.840 I was like, I Am not even going to eat that, 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:01.600 and then there was a bit of a drama there. 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:05.480 Actually, that's a really good question. Do you remember the people? 0:14:05.600 --> 0:14:08.640 Like do you sometimes are you walking along the street 0:14:08.720 --> 0:14:11.120 with you know, your family, and does the contestant come up? 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:13.080 Do you remember all of the contestants that have been 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:15.439 on the show or do they kind of all blow together? 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:18.960 No, you remember most of them because we spend so 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:23.240 much time on the road together. But it's like on 0:14:23.400 --> 0:14:25.600 camera we are all you were, like, you know, the 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:28.880 bosses of the table, but like the in between breaks, 0:14:28.920 --> 0:14:31.240 we're like, how you going and what's happened in life? 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:33.840 And how's your family? And you get to know people 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:36.760 and then obviously you get to finals, you meet their 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:40.760 parents and their wives, husbands, whatever, So you get to 0:14:40.760 --> 0:14:43.680 know all these people. It's actually you still stay in 0:14:43.680 --> 0:14:45.400 contact with a lot of them. Actually they follow you 0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:47.280 on social media and we'll talk to you whatever. So 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:50.360 it's not just a nine to five job where you 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:53.560 just forget them after you took them became friends. 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:55.520 I mean, you might be able to help me out 0:14:55.520 --> 0:14:57.560 with something. But MK I is kind of known for 0:14:57.600 --> 0:15:00.360 having a good TV villain, and one thing I've worked 0:15:00.360 --> 0:15:02.800 out over the time of doing three years worth of 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:06.880 interviewing TV villains is they are often the nicer people, 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:10.160 all the more interesting people like Genal Liiano from the 0:15:10.160 --> 0:15:13.240 Real Housewives of Melbourne. You know, I was terrified watching 0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:15.720 her on the show, but every time I've met her, 0:15:15.840 --> 0:15:18.760 she is the most articulate, the easiest to work with. 0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:23.120 She delivers. I feel like the TV villains, even though 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:26.400 we see them on screen as being quite intimidating, that 0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:28.200 some of them are actually really lovely people. 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:31.080 Well I would. I was classed as the villain I 0:15:31.120 --> 0:15:34.480 reckon at the start, and I was like, oh, not 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:36.600 really who I am? What I mean? And then when 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:39.960 I find people who are quite opinionated, I go, actually, 0:15:39.960 --> 0:15:43.600 I quite like you because you're not beige, and I 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:45.960 sort of get off with the people's hat or the 0:15:46.000 --> 0:15:49.880 people dislike just because they I like people who who 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:52.240 you know, wear the hat on the sleep That's what 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:55.680 I like. Being around the boards, show on the fence. Yeah, 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:57.560 I would sit on the fence. Shit me. 0:15:58.360 --> 0:16:00.680 I just think this is how I feel about it. 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:02.880 I prefer to people to be honest. So you can 0:16:02.920 --> 0:16:05.000 be a good person, or you can be a bad person. 0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:08.240 But if you're owning, if you're genuinely that person, it 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:11.440 doesn't bother me as much. You know, for people to 0:16:11.520 --> 0:16:14.480 admit their flaws then to pretend that they're better than 0:16:14.480 --> 0:16:17.360 other people, you know, I just I just want the honesty. 0:16:17.520 --> 0:16:18.120 That's all I want. 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:20.480 You'll see someone coming up in the next few weeks 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:21.840 on the ad. I'm not going to say who it is, 0:16:21.880 --> 0:16:23.840 but anyway, in the next and they wear the hat 0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:27.560 in the sleeve and I thoroughly enjoy working with them. Okay, 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:29.880 well that that's coming up in the next few weeks. 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:31.720 Okay, that's a very good teas. I love a good 0:16:31.720 --> 0:16:33.480 teas on a podcast. Now, I want to ask you 0:16:33.640 --> 0:16:36.040 that's a tea. That's a very good past I want 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:38.280 to ask you, you've got a lot of celebrity friends 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:39.920 that you've made along the way, and you've even been 0:16:39.960 --> 0:16:42.800 into the jungle where you made lots of friends. Someone 0:16:42.880 --> 0:16:44.760 was asking me yesterday when they said I was going 0:16:44.800 --> 0:16:46.480 to talk to you, They were like, Colin got along 0:16:46.520 --> 0:16:48.680 really well with Abbi Chadfield. Is that right? You had 0:16:48.680 --> 0:16:51.720 a good friendship with Abbi Chadfield? Are you what does 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:53.680 that friendship look like these days? Because you know, once 0:16:53.720 --> 0:16:56.080 these shows finish, we never get to see what happens next. 0:16:56.240 --> 0:16:58.760 Are you does she come over for dinner with the family? 0:16:58.840 --> 0:17:00.440 What's going on with you? 0:17:00.520 --> 0:17:02.880 Now? I don't go to Abbie. Hell, I'm too old 0:17:02.920 --> 0:17:06.240 to hang out with Abi Chatfield. She's I caught up. 0:17:06.280 --> 0:17:09.080 Were at the logis and we had a drink and 0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:12.000 they said, if you had three people on an island, 0:17:12.040 --> 0:17:14.160 who would you bring in an interview? And I watched 0:17:14.160 --> 0:17:16.280 it and she said me because I could cook. I 0:17:16.320 --> 0:17:18.879 was like, ah, but yeah, Abby is like a little 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:22.720 like a younger, like one of my older daughters or 0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:24.880 something like that. She was, you know what I mean. 0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:29.160 She's very soft and a beautiful person. And she made 0:17:29.160 --> 0:17:31.040 you know what She's doing so well for herself at 0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:33.240 a minute of everybody in the jungle. 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:36.639