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Speaker 1: or a comment on your chosen podcast platform. On today's podcast,
Speaker 1: I have celebrity chef Colin Fashinage, who returns to one
Speaker 1: of Australia's favorite cooking shows, My Kitchen Rules. This Monday
Speaker 1: night at seven point thirty, Colin will travel across the
Speaker 1: country to meet Australia's most passionate Home Cooks with fellow
Speaker 1: co host and judge Manu. They will meet real people
Speaker 1: cooking real food in their homes, all competing for the
Speaker 1: chance to be crowned the twenty twenty three MKR Champion
Speaker 1: and take home one hundred thousand dollars. Joining Manu and
Speaker 1: Colin this season is international food superstar Nigella Lawson. Nigella
Speaker 1: returns to judge the finals week at KITCHENAQ, where the
Speaker 1: qualifying teams will compete in a high pressure cookoff. I
Speaker 1: will talk about Colin's personal relationship with Manu, former co
Speaker 1: host Pete Evans, and his old Jungle bff Abby Chatfield.
Speaker 1: Colin will explain why the conflict and catfights gives him
Speaker 1: the shits and shares why this year he and Manu
Speaker 1: gave the most amount of tens. Along the way, we
Speaker 1: will unpack the psychology of the show and you will
Speaker 1: find out who he would prefer to have at dinner
Speaker 1: date with Manu or Nigel Lawson. Plus, we will get
Speaker 1: plenty of exclusives from behind the scenes of MKR, which,
Speaker 1: as I mentioned, returns this week on Channel seven and
Speaker 1: you'll be able to catch up on seven Plus. Anyway.
Speaker 1: Let's bring Colin into the podcast, and guys, I hope
Speaker 1: you enjoyed this very interesting look at the new season
Speaker 1: of MKR. Hey, Colin, how are you hello? Good? I'm good, buddy,
Speaker 1: Very excited to be talking to you about my kitchen
Speaker 1: rules for twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Good.
Speaker 1: You know. I'm actually at my friend's place at the moment,
Speaker 1: who was so excited that I was talking to you
Speaker 1: because she was like, make sure you say thank you
Speaker 1: for the butcher's cut chicken recipe which was in Delicious
Speaker 1: magazine like maybe five years ago, because she's been using
Speaker 1: that recipe of yours for Christmas every year.
Speaker 2: Oh really, that's good, isn't it.
Speaker 1: Do you know which one I'm talking about?
Speaker 2: Is it the chicken THI recipe?
Speaker 1: It the chicken one with the bread? I think she
Speaker 1: uses like a sour dough bread with it.
Speaker 2: But oh no, it's called the famous chicken bread.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, well I've got it wrong.
Speaker 2: That's not Delicious, that's my res No.
Speaker 1: I know, it's yours. It was your recipe and Delicious
Speaker 1: magazine that she now uses every year. So I'm in
Speaker 1: a house where you're like supremo famous.
Speaker 2: That's good because I'm not supreme famous in my house.
Speaker 1: You should be should be you know, I want to
Speaker 1: say straight away, my Kitchen Rules is back and you're
Speaker 1: back in the show, which is great. Are you excited
Speaker 1: for Australian audiences to see this later series.
Speaker 2: I think what you're going to see is because me
Speaker 2: and Manu did MK or New Zealand, so we've been
Speaker 2: on the route being a husband and wife or month
Speaker 2: and then when we got to OZ, we sort of
Speaker 2: hound how we work well together and what and we
Speaker 2: had a lot of fun. So I think this season
Speaker 2: you'll see like we really get on, like we've got
Speaker 2: on for years. We live beside each other. Well you'll see,
Speaker 2: you know, there's a real respect and friendship between myself
Speaker 2: and Manu, and I think that's what shines this season.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it's when people have genuine relationships with people,
Speaker 1: the audiences can feel that. And I always wondered with
Speaker 1: you and Manu, what sort of level of energy do
Speaker 1: you put into that friendship away from the cameras. Do
Speaker 1: you sort of try and work on that friendship to
Speaker 1: make sure it's as authentic as it is.
Speaker 2: It's not really about audiences because we're friends, and like
Speaker 2: sometimes if we don't get on, and sometimes we do
Speaker 2: get on. We are like a married couple. And I
Speaker 2: think when we did when we did the New Zealand
Speaker 2: like we basically been living together for six weeks and
Speaker 2: then we got off the plane and said let's not
Speaker 2: talk for a week, and then by the end of
Speaker 2: the week we were like, oh, what are you doing?
Speaker 2: I miss you? And like I got I went to
Speaker 2: his house for Christmas lunch with my family and his family.
Speaker 2: So it's not like we have to act. We just
Speaker 2: we get on. And I think sometimes the producers will
Speaker 2: like you get on too well, like you are actually
Speaker 2: doing your job.
Speaker 1: In different parts of exactly you sit over there.
Speaker 2: Yes, sometimes they're like you know that. They're like, can
Speaker 2: you like just realize that we are filming? Oh sorry, sorry, let.
Speaker 1: Me just pull myself together.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I want to ask you, because you have been over
Speaker 1: there to do the New Zealand show and then you've
Speaker 1: been back here to do the Australian one, how do
Speaker 1: we compare? Is it fair to ask you this question
Speaker 1: about what home cooking looks like in New Zealand compared
Speaker 1: to Australia.
Speaker 2: Well, New Zealand are very proud you know, like the
Speaker 2: Marriag tradition and that was that was very interesting, but
Speaker 2: that was very good cooks. We worked a lot less
Speaker 2: hours as well over there, and we and we drank
Speaker 2: too much over there. But anyway, over here, I think
Speaker 2: this year, but then Australia is a different melting pod altogether.
Speaker 2: Like you've got the Italians, the Indians, the you know
Speaker 2: there was English, so it's a different sort of melting
Speaker 2: pop up. I think both shells are as good as
Speaker 2: each other. Lot.
Speaker 1: I guess every season you'd probably come away with something new.
Speaker 1: What's the biggest take home from this latest series that
Speaker 1: you've just completed here in Australia, you know, what have
Speaker 1: you learned? Without giving too much away from what the audiences.
Speaker 2: Might learn, we gave. We gave, I reckon the most
Speaker 2: pens ever in MKA or this year, which is what
Speaker 2: me and might now have been fighting for for years
Speaker 2: because for us, I don't I don't care about the
Speaker 2: drama and blah blah blah. Someone that just ships me
Speaker 2: the tears. This year was all about family. There was
Speaker 2: a lot more love in the whole season. I reckon.
Speaker 2: This is there's lots of people, there's lots of stories
Speaker 2: of our families and cooking. And I think that's that's
Speaker 2: like obviously myself and man who are getting older now,
Speaker 2: and that's the sort of food we want to eat
Speaker 2: and we want that story behind the actual food.
Speaker 1: Well, I think that is part of the success of
Speaker 1: the formula of this show. A strange question to ask
Speaker 1: you at this point, Ben, you know, out of Manu
Speaker 1: and Nigella, who's a better dinner party companion.
Speaker 2: Well, see, that's two different dinners, totally two different dinners
Speaker 2: because we actually took no Jella for dinner with our
Speaker 2: wives and we were all like on our best behavior,
Speaker 2: and my Jella is amazing and Man who's like a
Speaker 2: naughty child. So depends who you want to do you
Speaker 2: want to have a civilized dinner or do you want
Speaker 2: to have a naughty child dinner?
Speaker 1: You have answer question?
Speaker 2: He Well, Nigella's I've always had a crush on the
Speaker 2: Jella and and she's always been a food hero of mine.
Speaker 2: So I could see and have dinner with Nigella any
Speaker 2: night and just listen to herself because it's like she's
Speaker 2: swallowed the dictionary and the way she just elaborates their
Speaker 2: food on and I just sit there and owe I'm
Speaker 2: learning actually from her.
Speaker 1: I think we all feel like that when we're when
Speaker 1: we're watching her. It's interesting from your relationship of working
Speaker 1: with the two of them, you know both of them
Speaker 1: over the last two years especially, but what have they
Speaker 1: taught you? Well, if we can start with Manu, what
Speaker 1: has Manu taught you from your time working with him?
Speaker 2: Well, mine and me sure to have the exact sort
Speaker 2: of same food like gold and dreams and what we want.
Speaker 2: I would say matt Man it was a bit more technical,
Speaker 2: like he likes everything a bit more square and technical
Speaker 2: and I'm a bit rough and ready. So we sort
Speaker 2: of argue a little bit about that. But we voute want,
Speaker 2: you know, the best out of ingredients and people to
Speaker 2: do the best and if you're going to do it, like,
Speaker 2: don't do it half as. I think that's what we
Speaker 2: both want out of it. No, Jema, actually she's she
Speaker 2: gets into it so like she'd we stop on cameras
Speaker 2: and going like, I'm not happy with the way these
Speaker 2: guys are doing this, so and we're like, wait, she's
Speaker 2: getting into this big style.
Speaker 1: I think I like that about, you know, the being
Speaker 1: very hands on though and sometimes it's nice to work
Speaker 1: someone who's a bit of a boss bitch so that
Speaker 1: you can sit back.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah she is. She was like she she's the
Speaker 2: boss when in studio. But then we after we start
Speaker 2: a bond and then got on she's like, you're exactly
Speaker 2: like me.
Speaker 1: Was like, thank you, I'll take it, you know. And
Speaker 1: then this year we've put a completely different batch of contestants.
Speaker 1: You know, there's some amazing people there. You've got Tom
Speaker 1: and Rage from Western Australia. You've got the housemates, Nick
Speaker 1: and Christian from Victoria. There's a whole range of them.
Speaker 1: What do you think of the contestants this year? Is
Speaker 1: there something different about this bunch of cooks.
Speaker 2: I think it's like you're like a school teacher and
Speaker 2: every year you get all these different people come in
Speaker 2: and I reckon the class of twenty is it twenty
Speaker 2: three or twenty two? Twenty two? Years of twenty three?
Speaker 2: What year is it? I think the class at twenty
Speaker 2: three was a highlight for me because it was it
Speaker 2: was fun, and there's a few there's a few other
Speaker 2: teams you haven't seen coming up that are in the
Speaker 2: other two teams coming up who are outspoken and but
Speaker 2: I really like them, like they don't want the ones
Speaker 2: who are outspoken, and I think I think everyone just
Speaker 2: had a lot of fun, I think this year, and
Speaker 2: that's what I like, because there's no point in not
Speaker 2: not doing this job and not having fun. And the
Speaker 2: suit and the suit it showed in the foit and
Speaker 2: showed in the in the in the evenings we had
Speaker 2: around the table. Because I'm like to the guys, like
Speaker 2: you might as well enjoy this, like this is a
Speaker 2: great part of your life. Not everyone gets to do this,
Speaker 2: so enjoy it.
Speaker 1: Do you pick favorites? Because I could imagine if I
Speaker 1: was you and I'd be watching the behavior of all
Speaker 1: these people, naturally I would start to pick favorites. Is
Speaker 1: that what happens throughout the series?
Speaker 2: Well, the thing is there's people you think are going
Speaker 2: to like win and then they drop the ball, and
Speaker 2: then the ones you think, who are you really annoying
Speaker 2: me at this stage? And then they come good. So
Speaker 2: it's like it's like I've got two kids, and I
Speaker 2: don't have a favorite, Like, well, each week I have
Speaker 2: a different favorite. So that's the way it works, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Even I both my kids compete,
Speaker 2: so I'm like, one week, I like one kid and
Speaker 2: one I don't like you o kid. So it's be
Speaker 2: the same as in my house as every other parents do.
Speaker 1: It doesn't stop us as children though, asking our parents
Speaker 1: who's the favorite? You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just tell them, no.
Speaker 1: None of you. At least give me who your favorite
Speaker 1: team is this year. I know this is hard because
Speaker 1: you said that you don't like to pick favorites, but look,
Speaker 1: when it comes down to the crunch, who are the
Speaker 1: people to watch out of this season?
Speaker 2: Am I allowed to say names that I'm like, we'll
Speaker 2: be on the ard next week.
Speaker 1: Just tell every interview you have someone different and that's
Speaker 1: what gets you out of it. So you say to me,
Speaker 1: I love you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's someone in the Alants next week, which
Speaker 2: will be Claudine and Anthony. And I love Claudine because
Speaker 2: she's I said, she's someone I would get I get
Speaker 2: on with. You'll see why when you watch it.
Speaker 1: Okay, well that's a good teast. They're from Queensland. I
Speaker 1: like a good Queenslander.
Speaker 2: Yeah so they are. You'll see when you watch it.
Speaker 2: But we had like back and forth. It was good.
Speaker 2: It's good banter.
Speaker 1: You know, I guess putting people on these high pressure
Speaker 1: situations like this, you know, gets a lot of drama
Speaker 1: every year. But are you surprised that these people get
Speaker 1: fiery every time they get a new bunch of people.
Speaker 1: Is it just the nature of the format of this
Speaker 1: show that you're going to get that out of people.
Speaker 2: Well, I was at a dinner to night in Bunderberg
Speaker 2: and I had these real old oddie guys who are like,
Speaker 2: I would never go on that show. You know, you
Speaker 2: never get out there to me, and then we had
Speaker 2: a glass of wine together and then they were telling
Speaker 2: me about this dish they do with the wife, and
Speaker 2: then the wife start arguing with him and he was like, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: I do a better fishes dish, and then after half
Speaker 2: an hour said I've just got your entire story out
Speaker 2: of it in half an hour, and you would do
Speaker 2: the show. And then he's like, oh, I see what
Speaker 2: you did there, and I'm like yeah. So people like
Speaker 2: sort of they it's a dinner parody and they get
Speaker 2: into it. And then obviously then when one team goes like,
Speaker 2: you've got a score on the board, so you've got
Speaker 2: to beat that score, and that's where it comes from.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's that competitive nature. But it's funny how they
Speaker 1: get turn on each other. It's human nature. I mean,
Speaker 1: I fight with my partner when we're trying to, you know,
Speaker 1: say to someone that we're better at something than the other.
Speaker 2: You know. I just come around my house at dinner time.
Speaker 2: It's like my wife just like tells me on one
Speaker 2: the season this I'm over cooked that I'm like just
Speaker 2: to cook you.
Speaker 1: Well, I guess that's the thing. I mean. Do you
Speaker 1: have your own dinner parties at home? And are they
Speaker 1: just as dramatic as an MK at dinner party?
Speaker 2: They are when man who comes around, my wife actually
Speaker 2: kicks him out because he stays too late. She's like,
Speaker 2: we got to get up?
Speaker 1: Is she? Is she the sort of wife that's in
Speaker 1: there doing the dishes to let him know it's time
Speaker 1: to go home.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you this story. And the reason I'll
Speaker 2: tell you because I'm allowed to her because he told
Speaker 2: it earlier on this morning. Okay, I went to man
Speaker 2: who's house for Christmas dinner a few years ago. This
Speaker 2: this is a TV show in itself. I went to
Speaker 2: a man who's house for Christmas dinner, and man who
Speaker 2: was playing a beer pond with his next door neighbor
Speaker 2: right in the morning, so from nine am, so you know,
Speaker 2: when you try the ball that goes in the cup. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and he lost several times, I would say. So when
Speaker 2: I got to his house, he was blind right, and
Speaker 2: he was asleep. So I'd come around for Christmas lunch
Speaker 2: and the house was asleep, so I had to cook
Speaker 2: the lunch in his house. It was a big Wellington.
Speaker 2: And then when he woke up, he told me I
Speaker 2: did it wrong.
Speaker 1: I feel like there's a joke. Yeah, like how many
Speaker 1: grames does how many cooks does it take to make
Speaker 1: a Christmas lunch?
Speaker 2: You know? Yeah? Yeah, And if you interview him after,
Speaker 2: you ask him about that Christmas lunch, because I guarantee it.
Speaker 1: I love a bit of drama. And I think you
Speaker 1: were saying before that you're there for the food and
Speaker 1: the drama's kind of second course. But what would you say,
Speaker 1: is the most memorable piece of drama that you've seen
Speaker 1: unfold over the time that you've been on this show.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, something that stays in your mind.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen soul, I've seen I've seen the best
Speaker 2: and the worst of people. That's what I've seen, like
Speaker 2: in the early days. I was like, wow, because it
Speaker 2: was just a chef coming on for a shell. They
Speaker 2: want is going on here? I can tell you some
Speaker 2: really bad dishes that I said to people I wouldn't eat,
Speaker 2: and then they sort of stormed off. I think I
Speaker 2: had like a squid dish with some lamb and I
Speaker 2: was and fished out of season with fished off and
Speaker 2: I was like, I Am not even going to eat that,
Speaker 2: and then there was a bit of a drama there.
Speaker 1: Actually, that's a really good question. Do you remember the people?
Speaker 1: Like do you sometimes are you walking along the street
Speaker 1: with you know, your family, and does the contestant come up?
Speaker 1: Do you remember all of the contestants that have been
Speaker 1: on the show or do they kind of all blow together?
Speaker 2: No, you remember most of them because we spend so
Speaker 2: much time on the road together. But it's like on
Speaker 2: camera we are all you were, like, you know, the
Speaker 2: bosses of the table, but like the in between breaks,
Speaker 2: we're like, how you going and what's happened in life?
Speaker 2: And how's your family? And you get to know people
Speaker 2: and then obviously you get to finals, you meet their
Speaker 2: parents and their wives, husbands, whatever, So you get to
Speaker 2: know all these people. It's actually you still stay in
Speaker 2: contact with a lot of them. Actually they follow you
Speaker 2: on social media and we'll talk to you whatever. So
Speaker 2: it's not just a nine to five job where you
Speaker 2: just forget them after you took them became friends.
Speaker 1: I mean, you might be able to help me out
Speaker 1: with something. But MK I is kind of known for
Speaker 1: having a good TV villain, and one thing I've worked
Speaker 1: out over the time of doing three years worth of
Speaker 1: interviewing TV villains is they are often the nicer people,
Speaker 1: all the more interesting people like Genal Liiano from the
Speaker 1: Real Housewives of Melbourne. You know, I was terrified watching
Speaker 1: her on the show, but every time I've met her,
Speaker 1: she is the most articulate, the easiest to work with.
Speaker 1: She delivers. I feel like the TV villains, even though
Speaker 1: we see them on screen as being quite intimidating, that
Speaker 1: some of them are actually really lovely people.
Speaker 2: Well I would. I was classed as the villain I
Speaker 2: reckon at the start, and I was like, oh, not
Speaker 2: really who I am? What I mean? And then when
Speaker 2: I find people who are quite opinionated, I go, actually,
Speaker 2: I quite like you because you're not beige, and I
Speaker 2: sort of get off with the people's hat or the
Speaker 2: people dislike just because they I like people who who
Speaker 2: you know, wear the hat on the sleep That's what
Speaker 2: I like. Being around the boards, show on the fence. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I would sit on the fence. Shit me.
Speaker 1: I just think this is how I feel about it.
Speaker 1: I prefer to people to be honest. So you can
Speaker 1: be a good person, or you can be a bad person.
Speaker 1: But if you're owning, if you're genuinely that person, it
Speaker 1: doesn't bother me as much. You know, for people to
Speaker 1: admit their flaws then to pretend that they're better than
Speaker 1: other people, you know, I just I just want the honesty.
Speaker 1: That's all I want.
Speaker 2: You'll see someone coming up in the next few weeks
Speaker 2: on the ad. I'm not going to say who it is,
Speaker 2: but anyway, in the next and they wear the hat
Speaker 2: in the sleeve and I thoroughly enjoy working with them. Okay,
Speaker 2: well that that's coming up in the next few weeks.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's a very good teas. I love a good
Speaker 1: teas on a podcast. Now, I want to ask you
Speaker 1: that's a tea. That's a very good past I want
Speaker 1: to ask you, you've got a lot of celebrity friends
Speaker 1: that you've made along the way, and you've even been
Speaker 1: into the jungle where you made lots of friends. Someone
Speaker 1: was asking me yesterday when they said I was going
Speaker 1: to talk to you, They were like, Colin got along
Speaker 1: really well with Abbi Chadfield. Is that right? You had
Speaker 1: a good friendship with Abbi Chadfield? Are you what does
Speaker 1: that friendship look like these days? Because you know, once
Speaker 1: these shows finish, we never get to see what happens next.
Speaker 1: Are you does she come over for dinner with the family?
Speaker 1: What's going on with you?
Speaker 2: Now? I don't go to Abbie. Hell, I'm too old
Speaker 2: to hang out with Abi Chatfield. She's I caught up.
Speaker 2: Were at the logis and we had a drink and
Speaker 2: they said, if you had three people on an island,
Speaker 2: who would you bring in an interview? And I watched
Speaker 2: it and she said me because I could cook. I
Speaker 2: was like, ah, but yeah, Abby is like a little
Speaker 2: like a younger, like one of my older daughters or
Speaker 2: something like that. She was, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: She's very soft and a beautiful person. And she made
Speaker 2: you know what She's doing so well for herself at
Speaker 2: a minute of everybody in the jungle.
Speaker 1: Oh, I know. I think she's quite an amazing person.
Speaker 1: It's quite interesting though. I actually met her at the
Speaker 1: Logis last year, and I was a bit scared of
Speaker 1: her because I was like used to her ranting on
Speaker 1: her tiktoks and so I was like, oh, got a
Speaker 1: little scared to go off. She goes off. And then
Speaker 1: when I talked to her in real life, she was
Speaker 1: so generous with her time. She was so there's something
Speaker 1: very beautiful and very calming about it.
Speaker 2: You know what I like about Aby Chatfield. So she's
Speaker 2: got all these funs. I don't know, they like believers
Speaker 2: or whatever they call them on whatever abbeys that car.
Speaker 2: And then like when when Because we were talking about
Speaker 2: this actually, because when you meet people who watch your
Speaker 2: TV show or follow her on TikTok or whatever, they're
Speaker 2: like the what would you say that you're a company
Speaker 2: and they buy into this company. Yeah, and the day
Speaker 2: they stop caring about you is that you're finished. So
Speaker 2: she when she meets people in the street, as do I,
Speaker 2: and they say, we love your shell, and when these
Speaker 2: are our kids, You're like, yeah, one hundred percent, man,
Speaker 2: because you're keep us in a job. And I think
Speaker 2: She's very aware of that as well.
Speaker 1: I've seen people like not to mention any names, but
Speaker 1: maybe Anthony Clear, But like I've seen celebrities that fans
Speaker 1: will come up to and be like, I love you,
Speaker 1: and they just snub them. And I think that's not
Speaker 1: the job. Do you know what I mean? Like people
Speaker 1: have bought you for so many years. I mean the
Speaker 1: moment that you start not being able to talk to
Speaker 1: your fans when you see them on the street, I
Speaker 1: think I think you're jaded. I think it's pumping it out.
Speaker 2: That's funny. I've seen him do that as well.
Speaker 1: So strange, and I'm like, like, mate, you know you're
Speaker 1: a good singer and you can sing the prayer really well,
Speaker 1: but you know, be nice to your fan, bake up
Speaker 1: to yourself. Anyway, I want to quickly ask you before
Speaker 1: you go. People will want to know this this question.
Speaker 1: Do you think that Pete Evans are still watching the show?
Speaker 1: And have you texted him? Does he text you and
Speaker 1: say that was a great episode. All I want to
Speaker 1: know is is Pete Evans still watching the show even
Speaker 1: though he's not on it.
Speaker 2: I would say, I know, I wonder if Pete even
Speaker 2: as a TV but anyway, because I'm not no, I'm
Speaker 2: not being smart because me and Pete are friends, like
Speaker 2: we don't Mane, who texts him a lot more than
Speaker 2: I do. Well, the media always tries to pit us
Speaker 2: against him. I think Pete has made a better life
Speaker 2: choice for himself now he's happier every what he's done.
Speaker 1: And talk to him about that mullet. I don't know
Speaker 1: whether that mullet he's not going on at the moment.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've seen them moshe it's huge.
Speaker 2: Well, Pete, do you know what? Pete's the only want
Speaker 2: who can pull off a mullet. I like him when
Speaker 2: he's mullet, mate. He's a very good looking man. He's good,
Speaker 2: these blue eyes. And when there's mullet's a bit shorter,
Speaker 2: I like it a bit short of He's the only
Speaker 2: one who can pull off the bullet.
Speaker 1: I've got to tell you this, really what you Me and.
Speaker 2: Man who had a mullet, we would look so odd.
Speaker 1: No you, we'd be taking you to get a haircut.
Speaker 1: I was in Byron once and I was coming out
Speaker 1: of the water and I saw you know, you know
Speaker 1: what this is like? You know, you see someone attractive
Speaker 1: and you're checking them out, but you don't want to
Speaker 1: look like you're checking them out anyway. So he was
Speaker 1: walking along the beach and I could see him coming
Speaker 1: along and I was like, that man is hot. Who
Speaker 1: is that? And then I got closer to him and
Speaker 1: realized it was Pete Evans. And I'd actually interviewed him
Speaker 1: before and he'd yelled at me in the interview, so
Speaker 1: I quickly scurried away to my towel. But I was
Speaker 1: really shocked at him how beautiful he is in real life.
Speaker 1: Like he's a good looking man, he said.
Speaker 2: I've always said he's a good looking man. I've got
Speaker 2: great eyes.
Speaker 1: Anyway, I'm very excited about this series. I'm very happy
Speaker 1: with the fact that we've been able to chat and
Speaker 1: unpack a few things. But just before you go, the
Speaker 1: last question I ask everyone who joins the podcast is
Speaker 1: what is something from behind the scenes, something that we
Speaker 1: probably won't see, maybe like a behind the scenes secret
Speaker 1: or an anecdote from your time on my kitchen rules.
Speaker 2: Well, we used to have a camera van at the
Speaker 2: back of each shoe, so you know, like when you
Speaker 2: go like backpack and all whatever, Like, yeah, one of
Speaker 2: those with the beds in the kitchen, so that was
Speaker 2: like our little green room for me and Frenchiet and
Speaker 2: Frenchyet would the makeup girls would put them to bed
Speaker 2: halfway through like Entree and Main when we have a
Speaker 2: break for an hour, and then put little blankets over
Speaker 2: and give him pillows. And then he would take up
Speaker 2: the whole back of the vat, so I'd have to
Speaker 2: sit at the little table. Why is he getting Yeah,
Speaker 2: and he fas a lot of back at the vats.
Speaker 2: That's what's all I'm going to say.
Speaker 1: That is the MKR secret, which I am absolutely loving.
Speaker 1: So Manu, thankfully we don't have smell of vision amazing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he always takes over the end of the
Speaker 2: vat and gets to make to the bed. I'm like
Speaker 2: his younger brother who has to sit up the front.
Speaker 1: I just love this dynamic. I love it when people
Speaker 1: are authentically having these friendships, you know, away from the camera.
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm here.
Speaker 2: For I didn't you know what I'm telling you now.
Speaker 2: The reason this season is going to do so well,
Speaker 2: and it will do well is because myself and Manu
Speaker 2: works so well together and we call each other out
Speaker 2: when we're being idiots. Or whatever, and we don't always
Speaker 2: agree for our heart, like I love Manu like a
Speaker 2: buller and he does the same, and well one percent
Speaker 2: in it for each other.
Speaker 1: And that's amazing. I think it's going to be a
Speaker 1: good series. I haven't seen any of it yet. Normally
Speaker 1: when I'm interviewing someone, i've seen an episode, but you
Speaker 1: know what, that's okay. I'm just more excited now after
Speaker 1: having this conversation because I'm very passionate about home cooking.
Speaker 1: I love home cooking myself. I always buy everything fresh
Speaker 1: that day. I love going to people's homes and having
Speaker 1: cooked food made for me. I think that there's something,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of heart in that.
Speaker 2: Everyone's pick a chef's making food too hard for people
Speaker 2: and kids, like every kid should know how to cook
Speaker 2: there when you leave home, should know how to cook
Speaker 2: and least ten things. And I think when you watch
Speaker 2: this is it's about like getting the best out of people.
Speaker 2: Like obviously people fall down and whatever, but it's always
Speaker 2: pigging them up and getting them back on track again,
Speaker 2: and that's what it's about.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Colin. Can I just say it's so fascinating and
Speaker 1: so funny, and I've absolutely loved being It's over the
Speaker 1: years and I want to say thank you so much
Speaker 1: for being so generous with your time and sharing your
Speaker 1: story today.
Speaker 2: Absolute pleasure. Thanks for having me