1 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: Get A. I'm Laala Berry, nutritionist, author, actor, TV presenter, 2 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: and professional oversharer. This podcast is all about celebrating failure 3 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: because I believe it's a chance for us to learn, 4 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:22,119 Speaker 1: grow and face our blind spots. Each week, I'll interview 5 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 1: a different guest about their highs as well as their lows, 6 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: all in a bid to inspire us to fearlessly fail. 7 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: Get A Fearlessly Failing, fam We have an incredible writer, director, 8 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 1: and executive producer, Josh Friedman, jumping on the pod today. 9 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: He is like a warm hug. You are in for 10 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: such a treat. We're talking about his brand new feature film, 11 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: The Queen's Jewels. Please jump online and follow and just 12 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: support this unreal human being. I hope you love this episode. 13 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: So many pearls of wisdom, especially if you've got a 14 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 1: creative heart like me. Josh Friedman, Welcome to the Potter Rooney. Hi, Hello, director, writer, 15 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: executive producer. 16 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 2: How are you? 17 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:16,199 Speaker 1: I want to know how you are? How do you feel? 18 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 1: Because you texted me yesterday and you're like, listen, the 19 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: first minute of an interview is hard for me. 20 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 2: Why It's true, I'm not the actor. I'm more comfortable 21 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 2: behind the scenes, So it takes me about a minute 22 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 2: to warm up and then I just kind of forget 23 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 2: that it's happening. It's all new to me, so I'm 24 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 2: just kind of going with the flow. 25 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,639 Speaker 1: Well, I can't tell you feel very natural and chill 26 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: and calm. 27 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 2: Thank you. 28 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: We're maturing. 29 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh yes, we love a good marcher. Yeah, we 30 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 2: love a good mind. 31 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: I love hearing an Americans say match well, obviously, and 32 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: as he says matcher and you say march. 33 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 2: Marcher, I am a marcher man for sure. 34 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: Okay. On the weekend, I'm going to dive straight in 35 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: because I'm fan girling over you right now. Matt and 36 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: I watched The Queen's Jewels and Holy mackerel, it's incredible. 37 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: So this is your do I say, directorial debut as 38 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: a feature film directors? 39 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 2: Is? It is my directorial debut as a feature film director, 40 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 2: which is very exciting for me. Thank you, thank you, 41 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 2: thank you. 42 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: So okay, it feels to me having seen it action packed, 43 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 1: it's thrilling. It feels like it's fun for the whole family. 44 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: For the listener of your at Home, can you give 45 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: us a little taste of the synopsis? What's it about? 46 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 2: It's basically about a three hundred year old treasure and 47 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 2: a character from a small town who basically realizes that 48 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 2: the myth and the missing treasure still exists and has 49 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 2: to go on this incredible advent or really to I 50 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 2: guess Avenge his father. And yeah, it's a really fun film. 51 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 2: I really enjoyed making it. 52 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: I do you know. One of my favorite parts of it, 53 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: And it might seem a bit off topic, but the 54 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: friendship kind of like camaraderie. You get this, yes, you 55 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: get your hero's journey arc with as Bo, the main character. Yes, 56 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: but then you get to see like these other characters 57 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: come in, like La La, and you get to see 58 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: this beautiful friendship kind of like blossom throughout the film. 59 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 1: And so it kind of feels like this like friendship, 60 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: like heroes, journey, treasure like adventure. 61 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 2: Good. 62 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: That's how it feels. That's how it was. Okay, So, 63 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: as you know, I'm a nerd, you already know this 64 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: from our match a day to you, Yes, okay, I 65 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: want to know behind the scenes. I have to ask, 66 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: so is it true that the idea came to you 67 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: from you literally met someone on the beach in Florida? 68 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: Because where you're from is Treasure Coast? Am I saying that? 69 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 2: Right? Yeah? So do you want me to jump here? Yeah? So, 70 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 2: like around COVID time, like nobody was doing anything in 71 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 2: the industry, like and it was difficult even as an 72 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 2: independent can only imagine the working artists at that time, 73 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 2: but trying to get the ball rolling. So I had 74 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 2: a lot of downtime to kind of like stew on 75 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 2: what my ideas are going to be. And then also 76 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 2: there was so much time and like peace for me 77 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 2: that I felt like I'm going to try to really 78 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 2: focus on when this is all is said and done, 79 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 2: like how am I going to get to where I 80 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 2: want to go? Yeah? And I find that being by 81 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 2: the beach is something that brings me true peace. So 82 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 2: I would spend a lot of time at the beach. 83 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 2: And so, yes, like you said, I'm from a place 84 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 2: called Vero Beach, which is a part of the Treasure Coast. 85 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 2: So people all the time are using the metal detector 86 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 2: and they're always like looking for stuff, and and this 87 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 2: guy was he was just metal detecting. But I had 88 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 2: seen him consistently for like a few days, like he 89 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 2: was just always there. And you know, you don't really 90 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 2: say anything. He's just doing his things. He's got his 91 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 2: little you know, headphones on, and he's got his metal detector. 92 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 2: And eventually, like on day, like I don't know what 93 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 2: day at this point it was, but I saw him 94 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 2: and I eventually just stood up walked over to him, 95 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 2: and I said, hey, like, do you ever find anything? 96 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 2: Like ever? 97 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: Like that was my question just then, like. 98 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 2: Do you actually ever find And he's like, yeah, I do. 99 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:11,359 Speaker 2: And and then he started telling me about the history 100 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 2: of the town. And I have known like about the 101 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 2: Treasure Coast and the treasure but I didn't really like 102 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 2: look into it as much as I like I should have, 103 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 2: I guess because the signs are everywhere, right, there's museums, 104 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 2: there's like it's called the Treasure Coast. So I met 105 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 2: this guy and eventually we got chatting. I saw him 106 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 2: again the next day and we kind of built this 107 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 2: kind of like friendly relationship, and he took me at 108 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 2: some point, you know, into his into his home and 109 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 2: he showed me like his museum of things that he's found, 110 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 2: whether it was like a piece of a plate from 111 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 2: this Spanish plate fleet. Yeah, and like he was talking 112 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 2: all about the treasure and how he had written a 113 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 2: book about the treasure. I read the book. It was 114 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 2: very cool. So yeah, he kind of inspired, like you 115 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 2: know what I was at the time being in this 116 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 2: small little town and this treasure, and I was like, 117 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 2: how is this not a movie? Like how this could 118 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 2: be a total movie. So I basically took the concept 119 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 2: of a true story, like the true history I should say, yeah, 120 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 2: and then created a fictional story around it. So in history, 121 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 2: there's twelve ships that like, you know, one made it 122 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 2: back to France, the eleven of them sank in this 123 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 2: hurricane right off of the Treasure coast. And then I 124 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 2: made up a story about the thirteenth ship. Then the 125 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 2: thirteenth ship is completely fictional, as are the characters. But 126 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 2: I kind of took like a creative liberty to just, 127 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 2: you know, I love it to share with the world, 128 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 2: like this amazing history and a very small town that's 129 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 2: very real and it's super fun. 130 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: What an amazing imagination you had. 131 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 2: Oh thank you, Holy Matt. 132 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: I love it. Okay, So if you have you have 133 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 1: this idea, you get captivated by this story and you 134 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: kind of let it take you on this journey, then 135 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: and correct me if I'm wrong, but you create a 136 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 1: short from that? 137 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 2: Is that? 138 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: Like that was the first the next step, right? 139 00:06:57,920 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 2: Yes? 140 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: And then how does someone go from like all right, 141 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 1: I've got this vision, I'm going to create a short 142 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: then to be like, I know this is going to 143 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:06,119 Speaker 1: be a feature film. 144 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is fun for me to talk about. So 145 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 2: I knew that when I made the short film, because 146 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 2: there is a short film called The Queen's Jewels. I 147 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 2: knew at that time that the story was going to 148 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 2: be bigger. So I actually planned and strategized ahead of 149 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 2: time to create a proof of concept knowing that I'm 150 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 2: going to use the short film to pitch the bigger idea. 151 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 2: So you know, it's interesting too because there's so many 152 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 2: similarities between the short film and the feature film, but 153 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 2: then there's so many differences. So it's cool to see 154 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 2: how like that evolved. Like, I didn't anticipate that when 155 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 2: I created the short film, but I knew, like I 156 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 2: was telling you, like, I knew that I was going 157 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 2: to make this the feature film because you can only 158 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 2: make so many short films and like, and I love 159 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 2: getting the awards. I love feeling like we're doing something 160 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 2: that means something, and art gives to people and to 161 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 2: be able to share, you know, to share my imagination 162 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 2: with the world is so fun. But at some point 163 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 2: you have to be able to take the leap. If 164 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 2: you're gonna be a filmmaker, you have to find the 165 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 2: right way for yourself to make sure that you can 166 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 2: do it. So I felt like I was starting to 167 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 2: outgrow the short film space. So I swung really really 168 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 2: hard and with the with the short film, and I 169 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 2: just refused to to not give up, just to get 170 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 2: to where we are today. And here we are. So 171 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 2: I'm proud of myself, I'm proud of my team, I'm 172 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 2: proud of I'm. 173 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: Proud of you. 174 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 2: That's unreal. 175 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: Okay, So the location is off the charts amazing. 176 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 2: Thank you. 177 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: Talk to me about that because it's so I believe 178 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:39,479 Speaker 1: it's set in the Bahamas. 179 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 2: Is that right? The storyline takes place in the Bahamas? 180 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: Yes, and looks incredible. 181 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 2: Thank you. 182 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: So how did what were you like? Okay? Was there 183 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: like a location scouting process that you went through? 184 00:08:52,840 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay. So even though the film the storyline is 185 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 2: in the Bahamas, we actually filmed in the Dominican Republic, 186 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 2: which is you know, the business side of things, there's incentives, 187 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 2: there's tax credits, there's all these variables that come into play. 188 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 2: But for me, creatively, what I had written, it was 189 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 2: a perfect match. Like I got to really play in 190 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 2: the natural elements of what the Dominican Republic had to 191 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 2: offer with like you were saying, like these beautiful well 192 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 2: you weren't saying this, but I'll say it for it. 193 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 2: There's beautiful blue water, get the caves. Yeah, it was 194 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 2: like the perfect a place to play with, you know, 195 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 2: creative and imagination. We did scout, we did scout the Bahamas, 196 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 2: and we did scout the Dominican Republic, and yeah, they 197 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 2: both were enjoyable. I went back after we filmed in 198 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 2: the Dominican Republic to the Bahamas and I filmed for 199 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 2: like two days just to get b roll to kind 200 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 2: of give life to the storyline. Because it's so important 201 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 2: to me to always try to make everything as authentic 202 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 2: as it can possibly be. Even the beginning of the 203 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 2: movie takes place in the Treasure Coast in Florida. Yeah, 204 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 2: like so like I brought like I'm trying, I was 205 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 2: trying really hard to have like my artistic signature. But yeah, 206 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 2: I mean it was so fun. It was really hot. 207 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 2: It was so hot. 208 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 1: But some walk that was like three hundred steps to 209 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 1: get to some cave, is that right? And it was 210 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: like a seven series cave or something. 211 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. You have to take a little boat 212 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 2: and like literally like there's a guy that like pulls 213 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 2: you on a rope to get across to the part. 214 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,239 Speaker 2: And I've like, I felt so bad. I'm like apologizing 215 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 2: to everyone, like I know that I that I'm the 216 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 2: one that chose this part of the cave, but we 217 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:33,599 Speaker 2: have to get here in order to do it. But 218 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 2: everybody handled it amazing. We had such a great team. 219 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 2: And yeah, three hundred steps down in the cave there's 220 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 2: bats swirling around. Oh yeah, you know, it was. It 221 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 2: was truly beautiful though. 222 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: It really is so okay. There were so many really 223 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: nice underwater scenes as well, And I can only imagine. 224 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: I'm not a filmmaker, but I can only imagine that's 225 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 1: a whole nother logistical situation. Is it hard at a 226 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: film underwater or is that just my brain tricking me? 227 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 2: So it's you know, it is not as hard as 228 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 2: you would think, really, but there are complications that you know, 229 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 2: when you're working with camera equipment and you are underwater, 230 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 2: you have to take precaution. Yeah, and also in our case, 231 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 2: we had to consider the weather. So I love that 232 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 2: you loved the underwater scenes, but we actually had to 233 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 2: switch from like actually filming in that cave because it 234 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:28,319 Speaker 2: had like there was a massive thunderstorm and all the 235 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 2: rain was dripping into the cave, so the water got 236 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 2: polluted and there was no way that myself or Linda 237 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 2: the EP were going to allow anybody getting into that 238 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 2: water without like health reasons. Yeah, but yeah, little did 239 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 2: I know, Like the day before I'm like scouting it 240 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 2: and I'm like blowing water out of my mouth, like 241 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, it's fine, Nope, the water is contaminated. 242 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:55,439 Speaker 2: But yeah, so we actually we created the underwater sequences 243 00:11:55,480 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 2: that you have in a water tank. And also you 244 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 2: know with set pieces and things like that, and there's 245 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 2: like this box that you put it in. I'm not 246 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 2: a DP, but they know what I'm talking about, and 247 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 2: then you put the camera in, so you have to 248 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 2: like also make sure that when the camera is in 249 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,199 Speaker 2: the little box that you are, you know that it's 250 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 2: not fogging up. And there's so yeah, it's not as 251 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 2: difficult as you would think it's probably harder to do 252 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 2: in the actual ocean when you're being tossed around by 253 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 2: the currents and things like that. But yeah, it's it's 254 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:30,199 Speaker 2: I'm really happy with the outcome. 255 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: Oh, as you should be. The nature to me felt 256 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: like one of the highlights, like the beauty of it, 257 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: like the esthetic, feeling like I'm on the adventure too 258 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 1: as a viewer. So you nailed it. That's on that one. 259 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you. 260 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: That brings me to a question, and I hope you 261 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: don't mind me asking this, but were there any kind 262 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: of hurdles where you were like, oh, like this is 263 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: I'm going to have to like pivot or I don't 264 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: know if this is a very Australian or millennial thing 265 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: to say, but let maguy for this, like figure it out. 266 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that, like any filmmaker knows that, especially 267 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 2: if you're in the director's chair, like being the decision maker. 268 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 2: If you don't okay, well, I feel like I'm about 269 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 2: to go into tangent. So i'mone, Oh please please do. 270 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 2: Being able to make a decision under a lot of 271 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 2: pressure and a lot of stress is so important, and 272 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 2: I think most of it is about your attitude, because 273 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 2: if you feel like, hey, this is overwhelming and it's 274 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 2: going to be stressful, there's so many people we had, 275 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 2: like over four hundred crew members like that are depending 276 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 2: on you to make the right decision. So I think 277 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 2: it's about how you're If you don't make a decision, 278 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 2: you're screwed if you if you make a decision, see 279 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 2: it through. So an example, when we were actually filming 280 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 2: in the water tank, you know, we had planned it, 281 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 2: we were in the studio. You know, we filled it 282 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 2: up with the hose, this whole thing. We had a 283 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 2: whole contraption to make something come out of the water. Everything. 284 00:13:56,080 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 2: But and the actors were true professionals, Like they were 285 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 2: in the water, they were having fun. But you know, 286 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 2: I'm kind of like paying attention, and you know, I 287 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 2: hear them saying, yeah, it's cold, and everybody says it's cold, 288 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 2: and like I get it, I get it, but like 289 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 2: they were not telling me that like how cold it was, 290 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 2: which I give them respect for because they wanted to 291 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 2: do the best in their role. But eventually, like when 292 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 2: I'm you know, taking you know, in between shots, and 293 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 2: I see them laying in the sun outside trying to 294 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 2: like warm up. I was like, yeah, yeah, this isn't 295 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 2: We're not We're not going to keep doing this, so uh, 296 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 2: you know, on a you know, on a dime, I guess, like, 297 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 2: you know, I just went to Linda and I went 298 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 2: to our you know, our first a d and I 299 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 2: was like, guys, we have a water tank outside, but 300 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 2: that already has his set piece that we're going to 301 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 2: be filming in that we've already filmed in. Let's just 302 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 2: do what we're doing over there. And they're like, but 303 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 2: it's going to take so much time to move everything. 304 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 2: And I said, guys, we're going to move this. And 305 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 2: this actually was the last day of filming as well, 306 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 2: so we had to get these shots. We had to 307 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 2: finish it or else we didn't have pieces to kind 308 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 2: of connect to the film. We only had X amount 309 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 2: of time in the Dominican Republic. So so yeah, like 310 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 2: we made the decision, and yeah, the trucks, the vans, 311 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 2: the people, the cast, the whole crew. We moved from 312 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 2: the water tank inside to the warm water that was 313 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 2: like warms by the sun and it was beautiful. But 314 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 2: and we did it, and it was so crazy and 315 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 2: so interesting for me, and I know, I made the 316 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 2: right decision because the energy shifted when everybody was more 317 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 2: comfortable and happy, and it was a great way to 318 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 2: end the last day of filming. And I feel like 319 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 2: I feel like I know I made the right decision 320 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 2: and it looks great, so I'm happy with it. 321 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: It sounds like you've got a really great perception of 322 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: like reading the room, especially if you've got how many 323 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: people do you say, four hundred people that you're like roughly, 324 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: you know, you've got to be aware of it. There's 325 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: a lot of moving pieces and making a decision like that, 326 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: like you said, on a dime, like it's kind of 327 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: being like, Okay, this is the best decision for what 328 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: we need to achieve right now that looks after everyone 329 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: in the right way, and I'm going to make that 330 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: call and I'm not going to second guess myself. Like 331 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: that's a skill, thank you. Yeah. 332 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. And I am lucky though, because you know, there's 333 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 2: so many great people that surround me that you know 334 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 2: that I'm able to make an informed decision. It's not 335 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 2: like it's just like me making that. It's like I 336 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 2: very much like to listen to what's happening, and I 337 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 2: obviously this is a people person job and to be 338 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 2: a leader. If you're not listening, I don't know why 339 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 2: you want to do what you do. So yeah, I 340 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 2: appreciate that, and you know, hopefully it gets me far. 341 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, you've been described as a collaborative director, which I think, 342 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: like as an actor, is so warming to hear because 343 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: sometimes you can you've already got a bit of insecurity 344 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: or a bit of self doubt, especially on day one, 345 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: but knowing that that's your style and knowing that you're 346 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: so collaborative, you listen. And I've heard you say you 347 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: really like to listen to the like actors feedback as. 348 00:16:56,920 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 2: Well, so bad, Like I love that. Yeah, it's so important. 349 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:04,239 Speaker 2: I mean, actors, they're the ones personifying your character. I 350 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 2: feel like it would not behoove me at all to 351 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 2: listen to not have them have a say and like 352 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 2: who they're, who they're encapsulating. So when when I was 353 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 2: working with the actors a few times they were like, hey, Josh, 354 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 2: like this doesn't really happen often where you I'm like, 355 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 2: what are you talking? Who are you working with? Like, 356 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 2: of course you should have a say and and what 357 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 2: you feel that you're doing and and I'm so happy 358 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 2: that you know that they say nice things and I 359 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 2: love watching them like be proud of what they've accomplished too, 360 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 2: And you know, it makes me feel like as the director, 361 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 2: like that's gonna be the best performance when they believe 362 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 2: what they're doing. And if they believe it, I believe it. 363 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 2: So so yeah, I love. I love to collaborate, and 364 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 2: I think it makes for a cultivation of a happier 365 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 2: set and a more productive environment to be creative and 366 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 2: to feel free and say, and artists are all vulnerable 367 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 2: and I want to be able to make sure that 368 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 2: they feel safe. Yeah. 369 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 1: I think if you've all got the same like you're 370 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: all connected to the same goal, the same like, that's 371 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,360 Speaker 1: a really nice feeling to be part of this theme, you. 372 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 2: Know, Yeah, totally. I think having that synergy and we're 373 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 2: all in this together, you create like a bond and 374 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 2: it's we're all so close for x amount of time 375 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 2: and we're days and days we're all experiencing the same 376 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 2: kind of stress and you know, or maybe not stress 377 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 2: because we did a great job, but but you know, 378 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 2: we're in it together. We're in it together. It creates 379 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 2: like it's like a team. It's like a sport. Yeah, 380 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 2: you build that bond and it's really special. 381 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: I would love to talk to you about casting because 382 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 1: I know the lead that plays Bo, and you had 383 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: this connection over Florida. 384 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 2: Right, crazy town, Right, I didn't like like so fun 385 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 2: fact Bo, Carson Rowland incredible human, super charming, the sweetest 386 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 2: guy and incredibly talented. He was on my radar, and 387 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 2: then the casting director like Bo for me was the 388 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 2: most important, Like I like, he's leading the film, right. 389 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 2: So I was like, so every time somebody would make 390 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 2: a suggestion to me about who the actor was, I 391 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 2: would always always listen or who it could be considered 392 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 2: this consider that I I like to retreat, like I 393 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 2: put my head in my shell like a turtle and 394 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 2: then just really really sit on it. And when I 395 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 2: when I gave Carson like that moment to like you know, 396 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 2: to watch his auditions and you know, to see that, 397 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 2: it was like no question for me, Like it was 398 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 2: like this is it. He's like he's got that boy 399 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 2: next door kind of like he's so warm and friendly 400 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 2: and he looks like a baby Channing Tatum. 401 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: So he does. 402 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 2: So I was really really pleased with with my choice there, 403 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 2: and I think He's just an incredible actor in person. 404 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 2: He is a friend of mine, So how goods. 405 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: Was there a moment on set where I don't know, 406 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: if you're sitting in your trailer or something, where it's 407 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,400 Speaker 1: just like such a pinch yourself moment, like Holy Matt, 408 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: like You've got all this experience behind you. You've got 409 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:21,719 Speaker 1: all this experience, all these awards short films coming out 410 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 1: of the world, you know what I mean, Like you've 411 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: you're ready for this moment. You've done the work, You've 412 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: worked very very hard to be there. Yeah, but was 413 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: there like a moment where you're like, oh my god, 414 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 1: this thing is happening right now. 415 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it was the fact that I had 416 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:38,959 Speaker 2: a trailer. Yeah, I was like, this is wild. So 417 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 2: I think there are so many of them, so so 418 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 2: many of them, and I was trying to soak up 419 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 2: as much as I could. And I'm so lucky because 420 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,239 Speaker 2: I didn't do this journey alone. I get to do 421 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 2: it with my best friend and big sister, Linda Duncombe's 422 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 2: also the executive producer and producer, and so yeah, together, 423 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 2: I think we were just kind of like, you know, 424 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 2: starry eyed and like, you know, I'm like do we hug? 425 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 2: This is so crazy, like what do we do? How 426 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:05,959 Speaker 2: do we celebrate these moments? And how do we share it? 427 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 2: And it's just truly special to get to not be 428 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 2: in this alone and to really feel like you are 429 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 2: aligned and yeah, and to share it with somebody and 430 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 2: then to do you know, just like a really great 431 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 2: job as always I guess like the cherry on top right. 432 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, and to be like traveling and being in different 433 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: locations and filming that like you like you said, this 434 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: came from you chit chatting to someone on a beach 435 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,919 Speaker 1: You've then gone and kind of like obsessed over the 436 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 1: idea of it. I mean that the best way ever. 437 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 2: Oh I did. I went to pawn shops, talk to people, 438 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 2: I read books like. 439 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 1: And then to see it like be on set filming 440 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: said thing or like that vision from like potentially a 441 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 1: storyboard or you know what I mean, like fully being 442 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: there and it all coming together the cart like I 443 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: can only imagine it'd be like oh my goodness, and 444 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: you're so young. 445 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:03,199 Speaker 2: Oh thank you? Yeah, I feel well, yeah, all of 446 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 2: it was like there's so just so many of them, 447 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 2: I think, like showing up to set the first time 448 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 2: and just like seeing all the vans and the truck people. 449 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 2: Because I've interviewed and I've met the department heads and 450 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,360 Speaker 2: I've had my creative flow with them, but like actually 451 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 2: showing up day one and just seeing like how much 452 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 2: work goes has been already been behind the scenes happening 453 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 2: before I even showed up there. I'm just like I 454 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 2: want to shake everyone's hand. I want to say hello, 455 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 2: you know, like yeah, I mean I don't know. And 456 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:37,479 Speaker 2: then the actors performing and when when they're performing and 457 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 2: I can really see that they that they care and 458 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 2: the questions that they ask, I'm just like, what a 459 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 2: gift that you're sharing that vulnerability with me and that 460 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,919 Speaker 2: you trust in the environment that we've created. Like that's 461 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 2: it's just so special. And i mean, look, there's there's 462 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 2: just too many moments. I think in my mind, I 463 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 2: think the whole experience itself is just like you can't 464 00:22:58,119 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 2: you can't not look back and be like, wow, like 465 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 2: what we just did was amazing, because I think it 466 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 2: is you. 467 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: Need to write a book about this. This is like 468 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 1: such an amazing like you've got this is your own 469 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 1: hero's journey. I have to ask because a lot of 470 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 1: young creatives. Listen to this pod or watch it. What's 471 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 1: your advice young directors, writers, or producers? Because I think 472 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: when you get out of it, definitely for acting school, 473 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 1: but say film school. Sometimes you'll get out of school 474 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: and you've had the best You've been in this beautiful 475 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: little incubator and you've been around all these other creatives. 476 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: But there sometimes can feel like there's a little bit 477 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: of a disconnect between doing the thing you love in 478 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 1: school and then going out into the real world and 479 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: like putting on your business hat. Like you mentioned a 480 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 1: few of the business side of things earlier, like what's 481 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 1: your advice for a young creative that's like I really 482 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: want to do this thing. I really want to I 483 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 1: just don't know where to start. 484 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 2: YEP. I like this question, and I feel like I'm 485 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 2: not in a place to like speak like so objectively 486 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 2: about what I think people should do. But from my 487 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 2: experience having an entrepreneurial side and a business side, I 488 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 2: know that the creative world is like so enticing, you 489 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:18,360 Speaker 2: know what I mean. But like people like they they 490 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 2: want the heart of it, and like it's so fun 491 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 2: to get to be creative, and it's like the joy 492 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 2: and the passion of what we all want to do 493 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 2: as creatives. But if you're not thinking from a business perspective, 494 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 2: and if you're not learning how to speak and gain 495 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 2: credibility for the people that you'll be collaborating with that 496 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,479 Speaker 2: are going to be investing time and money into you, 497 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 2: I feel like that's going to be more challenging for you. 498 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 2: Try to cultivate a business acumen, I would say, like 499 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 2: just just by doing it, doing something to try it, 500 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 2: and then listen to your colleagues and listen to the 501 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 2: people that you trust. There's going to be so many 502 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 2: people as well that that try to say this is 503 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 2: the right way. But if you don't believe that, then 504 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 2: don't do it. 505 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 1: Because a trust your internal compass as well. 506 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 2: You do, you do, and there are people though I 507 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 2: don't want to scare you know, any new artist away, 508 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 2: but you have to be able to trust the people 509 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 2: that you trust because we all don't know everything, but 510 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 2: but we do know what our hearts tell us and 511 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 2: what our intuition tells us. And if you don't get 512 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 2: a good feeling that, there's probably a reason why. And 513 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 2: I think guest learning the business side is just as 514 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 2: important as it is the creative. And that's why I 515 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 2: think that I and we are where we are today 516 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 2: because you can't do one without the other. And it 517 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 2: really is a business at the end of the day. 518 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 2: It's business. You know. 519 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 1: It's such good advice because I think sometimes we think, oh, 520 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: I'm a creative, this is where I need to be, 521 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,199 Speaker 1: but that yeah, that's savvy, I want to say, like 522 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: savviness and business, just like the understanding like what goes 523 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: into being on a set like the creator and as 524 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 1: well as an actor, like you need to be visible, 525 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: you need to be seen like that. There is a 526 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 1: whole other piece of the puzzle that isn't just the creative. 527 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: And the creative is obviously why we do what we do, 528 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: of course, but the business is kind of like that 529 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: magic bit that like like clicks it all together, right. 530 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, Let's say you're an actor and you have, 531 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,919 Speaker 2: you know, these incredible reels and posts and you're scene 532 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 2: and then you're speaking to a producer and they ask 533 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 2: you a few different questions, but you're not able to 534 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 2: validate like how great that you look and how you 535 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 2: are and how you're able to get to reword you. 536 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 2: I feel like it's going to limit your ability. 537 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: To great advice. Yeah, need that combo. 538 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I could be totally wrong. I love it. 539 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: No, I'm very pro the combo. I'm very pro the combra. 540 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: So for people at home, how can we support the 541 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: Queen's duels? What's the best way? Like obviously follow on 542 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: along on social? 543 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 2: Yes, I would, yes, follow the social. 544 00:26:58,240 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, that'll be in the show notes. 545 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 2: Right now, I think it's like staying patient. There are 546 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 2: so many people right now that want to see the film, 547 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 2: and I still badly want to show them in the film. 548 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 2: But it's amazing. We have some incredible things happening around 549 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 2: festivals and distribution and yeah, so we're doing everything we can. 550 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 2: So I think it's just you know, if you see 551 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 2: something you like, like, share it, talk about it, tell 552 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 2: your friends you. 553 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 1: Know, I love it. Yeah, that's okay, sharing all right. 554 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 2: Chare be present and stay patient while we get it 555 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 2: ready to. 556 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: So I'm so excited for you. Okay. Now you and 557 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: me met yes at an Aussie lunch. 558 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 2: We sure did, and you. 559 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: Feel like an honorary Aussie. It might have been the 560 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: mullet wig that we were all wearing listening to in excess. Yes, 561 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: can you share with me your next really exciting Australiana project. 562 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 2: Yes, And first of all, thank you for saying that 563 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 2: I'm an honorary Australian. I take so much that. 564 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: You might write. 565 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 2: Yes, I even have a jar that has Joshi written 566 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 2: on amazing from my big sister. So yeah, we, Linda 567 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 2: and myself are currently working on another feature film Australian based. 568 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 2: It is called The Great Emy War and it is 569 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 2: written by Monty Franklin and Rob Schneider starring Monty Franklin, 570 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 2: Rob Schneider, and John Cleese, which is very exciting for us. Yeah, 571 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 2: and it's such a great story. And you know, can 572 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 2: I like talk for like a quick second. So like, 573 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 2: I was actually really nervous when Linda presented this to 574 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 2: me because this is actually going to be like in 575 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 2: my whole career, I have never not written the things 576 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 2: that I've directed it, So when this script came up 577 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 2: and I read it, the story is just exceptional. I 578 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 2: love it so much. And Monty, who I've been spending 579 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 2: most of our creative time with right now, he just 580 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 2: did an amazing job with Rob and his team, and 581 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 2: I think that that's there's something in me that wants 582 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 2: to protect what he has created. And I'm finding that 583 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 2: that's growth for myself as well, because I know what 584 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 2: it's like to feel like protective of my own work, 585 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 2: but to be able to help somebody, you know, protect 586 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 2: what they've done and have that kind of writing kind 587 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:43,479 Speaker 2: of background. It's just so important that he's in a 588 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 2: safe place. And not to mention, I went to one 589 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 2: of his comedy shows and he's brilliant. Yes he's Oh 590 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 2: my gosh, he's so funny. But I don't want him 591 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 2: to know how good he is yet. You know, we 592 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 2: still we still have to work together. 593 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: Monty is a good friend of the pod too, so 594 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: I will. 595 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 2: It's just going to be It's gonna be a lot 596 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 2: of fun and I'm really excited about this. 597 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: Do you know the first thing you said to me 598 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 1: about this when we were having our matchar slash coffee date. 599 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 2: Why did I tell you? 600 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: You said that you loved the story arc for Monty's character, 601 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: Like that was what you loved about it. Because yes, 602 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: for the people playing along home, this is a true 603 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 1: story in a sense, like it's based on there was, 604 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: I believe, in nineteen thirty one a great EMU war 605 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: where the Australian Army and the EMUs. Literally we're in 606 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: a war and spoil spoiler alert. If they've listened to 607 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: Monty's EPP, they'll know this. The EMUs won, right, So. 608 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 2: Funny, isn't it. It's just so funny, isn't it? 609 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: Just Like, Oh, but how exciting to film in Australia, Like, yeah, 610 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: that's like so exciting. As an Aussie, I'm just like, yes, 611 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: I'm pumped. 612 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 2: As an American, I'm pumped for me. Yeah, this is great. 613 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: Have you started the location scouting process yet? 614 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 2: We have, We have started, but we'll be officially headed 615 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 2: out there in a couple months. I think, like November 616 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 2: is what we're talking about, which is perfect, Yeah, perfectly 617 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 2: aligned with where we'd like to be. So yeah, but 618 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 2: we get like a whole bunch of pictures and things 619 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 2: like that. We have an awesome producer named Scott who's 620 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 2: working alongside Linda beautiful, and yeah, like he's so he's 621 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 2: been sending us some stuff and you know, Monty and 622 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 2: I have a look and we peek and you know, 623 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 2: we're like, oh, I can't wait to see you. 624 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, I'm so excited. I feel I feel 625 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 1: like attached already. I'm like, okay, I'm excited, I'm on board. 626 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, I can't wait to see this comes to life. 627 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: Because when I first interviewed Monty two years ago, he 628 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: was already telling me about it. That's how long this 629 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: has been his baby form. Like, how cool to be 630 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: part of that coming? 631 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 2: Oh for sure. I I respect that more than anything. 632 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 2: He's still he's still going for it, and there's so 633 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 2: much heart and what he's created and what he wants 634 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 2: to bring to the table. And I'm lucky that I'm 635 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 2: being trusted to be a part of that. 636 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 1: Have you ever spent long periods of time in Australia. Yes, okay, 637 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: so you already like know all your favorite. 638 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 2: I love Australia. I do. But you were also telling 639 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 2: me that there's Byron Bay. 640 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: Yeah you have to go to It's so bad now, 641 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,719 Speaker 1: oh my goodness, the best part of Australia. Like it's 642 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 1: my favorite part of Australia. 643 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 2: I have to go. Yeah. 644 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 1: And because you love we were talking about you can 645 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: do some great snorkeling and stuff there. 646 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 2: Right, yeah, and you would like swam with like whale 647 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 2: sharks and stuff. 648 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,959 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's the other side that's Perth. But you 649 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 1: can go out in Byron. You can go out kayaking 650 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 1: with dolphins and green sea turtles and little turtleheads pop 651 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 1: up like. 652 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 2: Sounds perfect. 653 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: Okay, I could talk to you about Australia all day long. 654 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: I'll give you a whole list of Byron Bay things 655 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: to do. Make sure you visit Byron as well. Just 656 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 1: do your locations going then be like, Okay, Linda, We're 657 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: just going to do a week in Byron to round 658 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: this tripper. 659 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 2: Just a real quick, little pope. 660 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 1: Little pop in. Okay. So a quote I wrote about 661 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: you I love and it is this. You've been described 662 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 1: as having a relentless creative spirit and I was like, 663 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 1: oh yes, but my question for you is what happens 664 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: on those days where because I described as like having 665 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: a little flicker in your heart and you kind of 666 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 1: to fan that flicker to turn into a wildfire. Right? 667 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 2: I love it? 668 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, but there are days when you think, oh, like 669 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: it can feel hard, and it can feel like you're 670 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: behind or you're blocked a little bit creatively. What do 671 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 1: you do to re empower and re inspire yourself on 672 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 1: those days? 673 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 2: Hi? Yeah, first fire? I love the analogy of the 674 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 2: fanning of the flame. I think it was well said, 675 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 2: and I can relate to that. I have like a 676 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 2: visual that comes to mind and like my own emotional 677 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:54,479 Speaker 2: approach to that. But yeah, I think for me, I 678 00:33:54,560 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 2: am I love. I know this sounds like sad or something, 679 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 2: but I love to my alone time too. I have 680 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 2: to find my own space and in that space, if 681 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:12,800 Speaker 2: it's just music or you know, being on a walk 682 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 2: and watching two people interact, and I was like, that 683 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 2: would be like a cool little, you know, snippet to 684 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 2: have a character do something like that, and then my 685 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 2: brain just starts to go and go. And for me also, 686 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:30,399 Speaker 2: I love I love like nature in general. Like there's 687 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:35,240 Speaker 2: just something about like being connected to something that brings 688 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,800 Speaker 2: me peace, that allows the creativity to flow. 689 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there's a word I'm going to teach you. 690 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 1: It's called biophilia, healing power of mother nature and human beings. 691 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:45,760 Speaker 1: So you're a biphilia person. 692 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 2: I'm a bipilia. 693 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 1: You can see it in your movie. You can see it, 694 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:54,720 Speaker 1: like thank you the Okay, there is so much my friend. Okay, 695 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 1: I could literally talk to you. That's gone so quick. 696 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 1: I could talk to you all day long. I'm just 697 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 1: gonna say, he gonna have to come back on the pod. 698 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 1: You're amazing. Oh you were amazing, and I can't wait 699 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,959 Speaker 1: to see what happens next for you. And I'm here 700 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: cheering you on. So please let me know whatever I 701 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 1: can do to help. He's stuck with me. So but Josh, 702 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 1: thank you so much for jumping on feels failing today. 703 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me. I appreciate this. 704 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,359 Speaker 2: I had so much fun me too. 705 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:30,280 Speaker 1: That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always, 706 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 1: thank you to our guests, and let's continue the conversation 707 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 1: on Instagram. I'm at Yamo Lollerberry. This potty my word 708 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 1: for podcast is available on all streaming platforms. I'd love 709 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 1: it if you could subscribe, rate and comment, and of 710 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 1: course spread the love