1 00:00:04,071 --> 00:00:06,551 Speaker 1: Black cast Unite our voices. 2 00:00:11,631 --> 00:00:15,151 Speaker 2: Gotcha for Life and Black Magic Woman podcast acknowledges the 3 00:00:15,191 --> 00:00:18,751 Speaker 2: traditional owners of the land which we recorded this episode. 4 00:00:18,831 --> 00:00:21,831 Speaker 2: We also acknowledge the traditional owners of the land from 5 00:00:21,831 --> 00:00:24,711 Speaker 2: where you, the listener or viewer, are tuning in. We 6 00:00:24,751 --> 00:00:27,191 Speaker 2: would like to pay our respects to elders both past 7 00:00:27,271 --> 00:00:30,391 Speaker 2: and present. We acknowledge that this land always was and 8 00:00:30,471 --> 00:00:36,791 Speaker 2: always will be Aboriginal land. This podcast talks about mental health, suicide, 9 00:00:36,951 --> 00:00:39,711 Speaker 2: and lived experience. If that brings anything up for you, 10 00:00:39,791 --> 00:00:42,871 Speaker 2: please take care while listening and remember you don't need 11 00:00:42,911 --> 00:00:49,271 Speaker 2: to worry alone. Welcome to Mental Fitness Conversations, a podcast 12 00:00:49,311 --> 00:00:53,471 Speaker 2: about how real people build their mental fitness through connection, community, 13 00:00:53,591 --> 00:00:56,431 Speaker 2: and simple everyday actions. Brought to you by Gotcha for 14 00:00:56,511 --> 00:01:00,231 Speaker 2: Life in partnership with Black Magic Woman. Here's your host, 15 00:01:00,431 --> 00:01:01,551 Speaker 2: Mondon Arabels. 16 00:01:02,551 --> 00:01:06,831 Speaker 1: Hey, Welcome to this episode of the Black Magic Woman 17 00:01:06,871 --> 00:01:10,551 Speaker 1: and Got Your for Life partnership series. I feel incredibly 18 00:01:11,671 --> 00:01:15,591 Speaker 1: just honored to be able to yarn to my nephew today. 19 00:01:16,431 --> 00:01:20,671 Speaker 1: He has had the most kind of well, it's not 20 00:01:20,671 --> 00:01:23,311 Speaker 1: an extraordinary life, but it's a life that I don't 21 00:01:23,311 --> 00:01:27,751 Speaker 1: think anyone in my family would have ever predicted from 22 00:01:27,991 --> 00:01:32,871 Speaker 1: just being a kid knocking around and Karina Kennon Hill 23 00:01:33,031 --> 00:01:38,951 Speaker 1: Murrarie area to then going on a massive big movie 24 00:01:39,871 --> 00:01:44,791 Speaker 1: on the big screen with the mad Max furiosap So 25 00:01:45,111 --> 00:01:50,151 Speaker 1: today my nephew Quadon Bows is on the podcast and 26 00:01:50,191 --> 00:01:52,671 Speaker 1: I can't wait for for you to hear his story. 27 00:01:52,711 --> 00:01:55,831 Speaker 1: For those that don't know Quados, thank you for joining 28 00:01:55,871 --> 00:01:59,231 Speaker 1: me to have a yarn today on the podcast for 29 00:01:59,391 --> 00:02:01,831 Speaker 1: my listeners. But also we've got viewers on YouTube, believe 30 00:02:01,831 --> 00:02:04,511 Speaker 1: it or not, big shout out to them. Can you 31 00:02:04,551 --> 00:02:06,791 Speaker 1: tell them a little bit about yourself, so your name, 32 00:02:07,111 --> 00:02:09,591 Speaker 1: your mob and a little bit about where'd you grow. 33 00:02:09,471 --> 00:02:18,711 Speaker 3: Up by along boy grew up in red Home, born 34 00:02:18,751 --> 00:02:21,951 Speaker 3: in Brisbane and yeah. 35 00:02:21,471 --> 00:02:24,151 Speaker 1: Tell us, my boy, you've been doing a lot lately, 36 00:02:24,991 --> 00:02:30,271 Speaker 1: like you're fourteen, and you know from when you were born, 37 00:02:30,351 --> 00:02:33,591 Speaker 1: because you and my boy are like brothers. Right when 38 00:02:33,631 --> 00:02:37,031 Speaker 1: we talk about Murrayway, Coreyway, you know first cousins and brothers. 39 00:02:37,591 --> 00:02:39,511 Speaker 1: You's are born in the same year. You're six months 40 00:02:39,551 --> 00:02:44,311 Speaker 1: apart from Lemki, four months apart. Don't forget that, So 41 00:02:44,471 --> 00:02:48,711 Speaker 1: four months apart who's older. Meck is older, so he's 42 00:02:48,751 --> 00:02:52,711 Speaker 1: a being like tight since birth, very tight, very tight. 43 00:02:53,151 --> 00:02:56,151 Speaker 1: And we used to hang out a lot because you know, 44 00:02:56,271 --> 00:02:59,031 Speaker 1: when I gave birth and Lemeki was a little followering, 45 00:02:59,071 --> 00:03:01,031 Speaker 1: you're a little followed mean on a yak. Just used 46 00:03:01,031 --> 00:03:04,391 Speaker 1: to always hang out together. So we go, you don't 47 00:03:04,391 --> 00:03:08,391 Speaker 1: have coffee or breakfast and you know, just go medical center, 48 00:03:08,431 --> 00:03:12,431 Speaker 1: do our appointments and stuff together. So you were mecky like. 49 00:03:12,471 --> 00:03:14,911 Speaker 1: There's so many photos of used to just back in 50 00:03:14,951 --> 00:03:17,991 Speaker 1: the day. So it's lovely to see that you have 51 00:03:18,031 --> 00:03:22,271 Speaker 1: still got that relationship. But I remember back in the day. 52 00:03:22,311 --> 00:03:26,591 Speaker 1: It was quite some time ago that you was in 53 00:03:26,631 --> 00:03:32,031 Speaker 1: a documentary called Australian Story. And I saw this clip 54 00:03:32,071 --> 00:03:34,311 Speaker 1: of you on Australian Story and you were in the 55 00:03:34,351 --> 00:03:36,991 Speaker 1: trolley and your mum was pushing you, you know, just 56 00:03:37,031 --> 00:03:41,831 Speaker 1: getting groceries and he was telling this girl. You were saying, 57 00:03:41,911 --> 00:03:45,751 Speaker 1: stop looking at me. And then they'll take photos of you. 58 00:03:46,351 --> 00:03:48,631 Speaker 1: Do you remember that? How old was you? 59 00:03:49,671 --> 00:03:50,391 Speaker 3: Six seven? 60 00:03:50,751 --> 00:03:53,271 Speaker 1: Yeah? And people will taking photos of you. 61 00:03:53,631 --> 00:03:54,311 Speaker 3: I don't know why. 62 00:03:55,351 --> 00:03:59,511 Speaker 1: And now this is before everything, before everything. What happened 63 00:03:59,511 --> 00:04:01,391 Speaker 1: after that? How did you blow up? 64 00:04:02,791 --> 00:04:07,351 Speaker 3: One day I went to school and a bill played school, 65 00:04:07,431 --> 00:04:09,551 Speaker 3: so it was all god, she was like a movie group. 66 00:04:10,311 --> 00:04:12,671 Speaker 3: And then one little girl's talking about my height and 67 00:04:12,671 --> 00:04:15,431 Speaker 3: I just got hip of it. So my mom posted 68 00:04:15,511 --> 00:04:20,471 Speaker 3: on the Facebook she just had enough of it and yeah, 69 00:04:20,551 --> 00:04:23,951 Speaker 3: one of the producers of Mad Maths, I just wanted 70 00:04:23,951 --> 00:04:27,991 Speaker 3: to cry. And then I've got the role there. 71 00:04:28,231 --> 00:04:31,951 Speaker 1: So howld a minute. You're at school one day there's 72 00:04:31,991 --> 00:04:35,751 Speaker 1: this girl making fun of you, which is bullying, making 73 00:04:35,791 --> 00:04:39,031 Speaker 1: fun of you about your height. You end up having 74 00:04:39,031 --> 00:04:41,271 Speaker 1: a bit of a breakdown, a bit of a meltdown, 75 00:04:41,631 --> 00:04:44,791 Speaker 1: and mum captured it on video, but she didn't really 76 00:04:44,831 --> 00:04:47,711 Speaker 1: capture it. I think she went live and she was 77 00:04:47,711 --> 00:04:51,951 Speaker 1: trying to tell parents about the effects of bullying and 78 00:04:52,431 --> 00:04:55,311 Speaker 1: what it does. It was like it was her like 79 00:04:55,591 --> 00:04:59,231 Speaker 1: a desperate plea for help, like how do I help 80 00:04:59,271 --> 00:05:02,911 Speaker 1: my son? And when is this going to end? And 81 00:05:02,951 --> 00:05:07,111 Speaker 1: then you get a call from a Hollywood producer, George Miller. 82 00:05:07,551 --> 00:05:10,151 Speaker 1: George Miller, what was that like? When you had your 83 00:05:10,151 --> 00:05:11,151 Speaker 1: first yarn with him? 84 00:05:11,471 --> 00:05:14,391 Speaker 3: Was a bit weird because I didn't really know the 85 00:05:14,391 --> 00:05:17,591 Speaker 3: movie at the time, and my brother did and he 86 00:05:17,711 --> 00:05:20,031 Speaker 3: was like he was thrilling out. I was like, well, 87 00:05:20,311 --> 00:05:23,031 Speaker 3: really that big? And I didn't know. But it was 88 00:05:23,111 --> 00:05:23,951 Speaker 3: good talking to him. 89 00:05:24,031 --> 00:05:27,471 Speaker 1: Yeah, what did he say? Hey, I'm coming to Australia. Yeah, 90 00:05:27,671 --> 00:05:30,191 Speaker 1: he's actually from here though he's Australian. Yeah. 91 00:05:30,271 --> 00:05:33,671 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's a boy. Okay, but I think 92 00:05:33,751 --> 00:05:37,471 Speaker 3: he hasn't maybe I think he lives living there in America. Yeah, 93 00:05:37,511 --> 00:05:40,471 Speaker 3: but yeah, who just said we want to book you. 94 00:05:41,471 --> 00:05:43,831 Speaker 3: He told me my role and he was like, you're 95 00:05:43,831 --> 00:05:45,591 Speaker 3: going to have to die. And he kind of freaked 96 00:05:45,591 --> 00:05:48,151 Speaker 3: out when he told me that, and I was like, oh, well, 97 00:05:48,431 --> 00:05:50,071 Speaker 3: it's like faked in the movie. 98 00:05:50,471 --> 00:05:54,871 Speaker 1: It's so in the in the movie your character dies. Yeah. Yeah. 99 00:05:55,031 --> 00:05:58,111 Speaker 1: What was it like, Like I seen you in the movie, 100 00:05:58,151 --> 00:06:00,751 Speaker 1: I've seen you on the big screen, right, Like it 101 00:06:00,791 --> 00:06:03,311 Speaker 1: was a long days with lots of like it was 102 00:06:03,311 --> 00:06:04,271 Speaker 1: a hard work. 103 00:06:04,231 --> 00:06:07,431 Speaker 3: Oh, very hard ten hours and nine hours a day 104 00:06:08,151 --> 00:06:08,991 Speaker 3: or two. 105 00:06:08,911 --> 00:06:12,551 Speaker 1: Days, yeah, yeah, two whole days. Yeah. So you did 106 00:06:12,591 --> 00:06:16,151 Speaker 1: like twenty hours on a film set and you're in 107 00:06:16,191 --> 00:06:19,391 Speaker 1: the movie for how long? Oh, I'll take a bit 108 00:06:19,431 --> 00:06:22,711 Speaker 1: more pieces five minutes yeah. Yeah, So you're doing like 109 00:06:22,751 --> 00:06:27,111 Speaker 1: twenty hours work from five minutes. Would you do it again? 110 00:06:27,471 --> 00:06:30,791 Speaker 1: Oh yeah? Hell yeah yeah. What was the highlight of 111 00:06:31,271 --> 00:06:33,111 Speaker 1: being in this big Hollywood movie? 112 00:06:34,271 --> 00:06:36,911 Speaker 3: Probably when I said the line the Bobby lockers and 113 00:06:36,991 --> 00:06:39,631 Speaker 3: then when I said that I want to do it. 114 00:06:39,871 --> 00:06:43,111 Speaker 3: And then as I've done that, I got shot. 115 00:06:42,911 --> 00:06:47,591 Speaker 1: Was the highlight. Yeah, and then the big premiere. 116 00:06:47,911 --> 00:06:50,871 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's a massive what's that like? No, it 117 00:06:50,991 --> 00:06:53,871 Speaker 3: was good. I was there right and one of my 118 00:06:53,991 --> 00:06:56,791 Speaker 3: I bring my cousins Bally Bells and Real Player. He 119 00:06:56,951 --> 00:07:00,711 Speaker 3: was like is Alex Vocoki. I loved the UFC and 120 00:07:00,791 --> 00:07:02,671 Speaker 3: Alex Vorganosh was in there and I was like where 121 00:07:02,711 --> 00:07:06,631 Speaker 3: were I read up? Like I read so fast off 122 00:07:06,831 --> 00:07:07,831 Speaker 3: the photo. 123 00:07:08,551 --> 00:07:11,711 Speaker 1: Day and you got it on your Instagram. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 124 00:07:11,831 --> 00:07:14,071 Speaker 1: I saw that photo. Who else did you meet? You 125 00:07:14,071 --> 00:07:15,031 Speaker 1: met Chris Hamsworth? 126 00:07:15,031 --> 00:07:21,151 Speaker 3: Well, he's in the movie. She's furiosha. Oh yeap order producers. 127 00:07:21,871 --> 00:07:24,791 Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw you on the stage. She's all lined up. 128 00:07:25,231 --> 00:07:29,151 Speaker 1: You were looking pretty sharp. Yeah that who cost a 129 00:07:29,151 --> 00:07:32,551 Speaker 1: bit did it? Yeah? And you had a nice watch. Yeah, 130 00:07:32,751 --> 00:07:35,551 Speaker 1: the shoes so you look the part. Looked like a 131 00:07:35,551 --> 00:07:38,951 Speaker 1: big Hollywood star. Yeah. And what was it like in 132 00:07:39,031 --> 00:07:42,591 Speaker 1: terms of a lot of the bullying that's happened, you 133 00:07:42,671 --> 00:07:46,151 Speaker 1: know in your short life because you're only fourteen. Yeah, 134 00:07:46,191 --> 00:07:51,951 Speaker 1: and then your life took a completely different path where, well, 135 00:07:52,031 --> 00:07:56,151 Speaker 1: let's be honest, people spreaded a lot of misinformation about 136 00:07:56,671 --> 00:08:00,151 Speaker 1: you being eighteen and not nine years old at the time, 137 00:08:00,391 --> 00:08:04,151 Speaker 1: and the whole world was like going crazy about whether 138 00:08:04,231 --> 00:08:06,871 Speaker 1: or not you were a child actor, whether or not 139 00:08:06,991 --> 00:08:10,671 Speaker 1: my sister, your mum, Yarika, was a fraud. They thought 140 00:08:10,711 --> 00:08:13,991 Speaker 1: she trained you so that you could make money with 141 00:08:14,071 --> 00:08:18,831 Speaker 1: the crowdfunding? Yeah, how was all that? It was just. 142 00:08:20,231 --> 00:08:25,551 Speaker 3: Stupid the way acted, because what really happened to you? 143 00:08:25,111 --> 00:08:28,791 Speaker 3: Your name Brad who made to go fund me. We 144 00:08:28,871 --> 00:08:32,311 Speaker 3: didn't have nothing to do with it, and the goal 145 00:08:32,431 --> 00:08:36,271 Speaker 3: was digit land, but it went over and went to 146 00:08:36,431 --> 00:08:39,671 Speaker 3: shoe hundred k and then I don't know who did 147 00:08:39,711 --> 00:08:40,551 Speaker 3: something with it. 148 00:08:41,031 --> 00:08:43,671 Speaker 1: Well he wanted to then have all the money. Yeah, 149 00:08:43,711 --> 00:08:48,591 Speaker 1: and you're the one being targeted and called a liar. Yeah, 150 00:08:48,631 --> 00:08:52,911 Speaker 1: and media and people people were just following you everywhere 151 00:08:53,511 --> 00:08:55,991 Speaker 1: and still online, you're still copying a lot of a 152 00:08:56,031 --> 00:09:00,311 Speaker 1: lot of negative, nasty messages and comments. So you've had 153 00:09:00,311 --> 00:09:01,711 Speaker 1: to shut down your Instagram now. 154 00:09:02,191 --> 00:09:05,471 Speaker 3: Yeah, I had a lot of people in their little 155 00:09:06,751 --> 00:09:08,591 Speaker 3: famous people and it's got hacked. 156 00:09:08,631 --> 00:09:13,151 Speaker 1: It got hacked, Okay, so someone wanted your account. There's 157 00:09:13,191 --> 00:09:16,911 Speaker 1: over thirty fake profiles on Instagram, more than that. 158 00:09:17,151 --> 00:09:20,191 Speaker 3: Yeah, even Facebook, because what they do is they can't 159 00:09:20,191 --> 00:09:22,591 Speaker 3: add people and then they will ask the money. 160 00:09:22,751 --> 00:09:25,031 Speaker 1: So it looks like you're asking people for money. 161 00:09:25,111 --> 00:09:27,831 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's actually people that just made lucky out. 162 00:09:28,191 --> 00:09:33,031 Speaker 1: Yeah that's scammers. Yeah. Oh my god, Kaidy, You've had 163 00:09:33,071 --> 00:09:37,431 Speaker 1: to keep you know, it's like you're navigating all these 164 00:09:37,551 --> 00:09:41,791 Speaker 1: kind of adversities, right, you're navigating things that most adults 165 00:09:42,151 --> 00:09:45,071 Speaker 1: don't have to deal with in their lifetime and you're fourteen. 166 00:09:46,311 --> 00:09:49,431 Speaker 1: Tell me what's been like some of the positives for you, Like, 167 00:09:50,431 --> 00:09:54,311 Speaker 1: you know, even when it comes to using your voice 168 00:09:54,591 --> 00:09:57,151 Speaker 1: to kind of help other brothers and sisters, even some 169 00:09:57,271 --> 00:10:00,711 Speaker 1: of your family, you know, when they're dealing with kind 170 00:10:00,751 --> 00:10:03,911 Speaker 1: of challenges in their life, do you try off for 171 00:10:03,951 --> 00:10:06,551 Speaker 1: other people advice to try and support them. Yeah? 172 00:10:06,831 --> 00:10:09,991 Speaker 3: All supported me. Now I'll just say, bro, you got this, 173 00:10:10,071 --> 00:10:12,711 Speaker 3: but just don't believe what people say, like you can 174 00:10:12,791 --> 00:10:13,111 Speaker 3: do it. 175 00:10:13,751 --> 00:10:16,471 Speaker 1: You're trying not for words of encouragement. Yeah. And then 176 00:10:16,751 --> 00:10:19,831 Speaker 1: you ended up moving back to Sydney And what was 177 00:10:19,871 --> 00:10:24,191 Speaker 1: that move from living in Brisbane and then moving back 178 00:10:24,191 --> 00:10:25,911 Speaker 1: to Redfern to the block, what was that like? 179 00:10:27,311 --> 00:10:29,471 Speaker 3: Moving back to the Sydney was like the best thing 180 00:10:29,711 --> 00:10:32,511 Speaker 3: that happened in my life, you know, because I was 181 00:10:32,591 --> 00:10:35,631 Speaker 3: up here just lonely, depressed, like nothing to do up 182 00:10:35,671 --> 00:10:39,871 Speaker 3: here though, I wasn't feeling myself, and I just went 183 00:10:39,911 --> 00:10:42,391 Speaker 3: to Sydney. I met all his new brothers, like all 184 00:10:42,431 --> 00:10:45,071 Speaker 3: his new maids. I went to school, made new friends, 185 00:10:45,551 --> 00:10:47,991 Speaker 3: you know, and the school they all know me there, 186 00:10:47,991 --> 00:10:50,311 Speaker 3: like literally the whole school, like I know, from grade 187 00:10:50,311 --> 00:10:53,271 Speaker 3: one to grade twelve. Yeah, yeah, like even the principal 188 00:10:53,431 --> 00:11:00,111 Speaker 3: like preach me will but yeah, Redferns works out. It's 189 00:11:00,191 --> 00:11:01,511 Speaker 3: like literally my first home. 190 00:11:01,911 --> 00:11:04,471 Speaker 1: And it's the first time you got to experience what 191 00:11:04,471 --> 00:11:05,551 Speaker 1: it's like to be independent. 192 00:11:06,831 --> 00:11:08,791 Speaker 3: You know. I'm down there for a bit with my arm, 193 00:11:08,911 --> 00:11:12,191 Speaker 3: you know, mo more than there, and after kind of 194 00:11:12,351 --> 00:11:13,231 Speaker 3: liked it. Amone. 195 00:11:13,791 --> 00:11:16,151 Speaker 1: Yeah, what's new? It's something new, and you know what, 196 00:11:16,191 --> 00:11:19,591 Speaker 1: everyone has to grow up one day, and you can't 197 00:11:19,591 --> 00:11:22,511 Speaker 1: have got an opportunity because your mum and your dad 198 00:11:23,431 --> 00:11:26,751 Speaker 1: kind of trusted you to go and take care of 199 00:11:26,791 --> 00:11:31,511 Speaker 1: yourself and be independent and actually show your maturity for 200 00:11:31,951 --> 00:11:35,431 Speaker 1: your age, right living. What are you in grade nine? 201 00:11:35,551 --> 00:11:37,671 Speaker 1: What about work? You're thinking of doing any more work? 202 00:11:37,791 --> 00:11:39,511 Speaker 1: Is there anything you're thinking about? 203 00:11:40,671 --> 00:11:44,151 Speaker 3: I'm hoping something comes. I've been waiting, but there's nothing 204 00:11:44,511 --> 00:11:45,111 Speaker 3: nothing yet. 205 00:11:45,871 --> 00:11:49,151 Speaker 1: Oh, you know, you just got to keep on, keep 206 00:11:49,191 --> 00:11:52,351 Speaker 1: doing the hard work right, keep going to school, got 207 00:11:52,471 --> 00:11:55,031 Speaker 1: to work, go to work, got to get good grades. 208 00:11:55,151 --> 00:12:00,191 Speaker 1: Work pays off, keep training at the gym. What about 209 00:12:00,551 --> 00:12:04,511 Speaker 1: when you think about all the other kind of brothers 210 00:12:04,511 --> 00:12:09,191 Speaker 1: and sisters that are you know, they're doing well for themselves. 211 00:12:09,271 --> 00:12:11,311 Speaker 1: How does that make you feel when other people are 212 00:12:11,311 --> 00:12:13,071 Speaker 1: succeeding in the community, you. 213 00:12:13,071 --> 00:12:16,071 Speaker 3: Know, like a I feel good when other people see 214 00:12:16,151 --> 00:12:19,311 Speaker 3: I don't like when people hate on other people feel 215 00:12:19,391 --> 00:12:24,071 Speaker 3: the other's I'll be on their side, you know. Congratulations, 216 00:12:24,151 --> 00:12:27,631 Speaker 3: luck to them, you know, glad to them. Yeah, it's 217 00:12:27,671 --> 00:12:31,151 Speaker 3: good to see other people succeeded, have their fun, you know, 218 00:12:31,991 --> 00:12:34,791 Speaker 3: because someday like I'm going to show you. 219 00:12:34,671 --> 00:12:38,671 Speaker 1: Know, or being blackfellow, it's just part of our community 220 00:12:38,711 --> 00:12:42,311 Speaker 1: that we lift each other up. And you know, if 221 00:12:42,351 --> 00:12:45,991 Speaker 1: you think about Aboriginal culture, it's a collective. We're a 222 00:12:46,031 --> 00:12:50,231 Speaker 1: group based society. We're not all about ourselves, so we 223 00:12:50,271 --> 00:12:54,591 Speaker 1: don't like when other people left behind. Yeah, it's good 224 00:12:54,591 --> 00:12:58,351 Speaker 1: to see other people go through a lot of challenges 225 00:12:58,391 --> 00:13:00,431 Speaker 1: being black, a young black man. 226 00:13:01,191 --> 00:13:02,231 Speaker 3: Especially at school. 227 00:13:02,631 --> 00:13:04,871 Speaker 1: What's some of the things some of the challenges at school. 228 00:13:06,191 --> 00:13:08,791 Speaker 3: In primary school, you know, it was me and the Mesa. 229 00:13:09,551 --> 00:13:15,071 Speaker 3: We just get called named like k or something. But 230 00:13:15,151 --> 00:13:18,951 Speaker 3: another thing was we've gone the assembly or a denlule 231 00:13:20,111 --> 00:13:22,991 Speaker 3: and also called. They would force us to sing it 232 00:13:23,031 --> 00:13:25,751 Speaker 3: because I didn't even know how to sing it, you though, 233 00:13:26,231 --> 00:13:29,791 Speaker 3: because I've never taught it and they wanted us to 234 00:13:29,831 --> 00:13:34,871 Speaker 3: see it. I'm like, I've never learned it, so yeah, and. 235 00:13:34,791 --> 00:13:36,951 Speaker 1: You just to get punished for it for not singing it. 236 00:13:38,231 --> 00:13:40,311 Speaker 3: But the thing, well, we never knew what I never 237 00:13:40,351 --> 00:13:41,271 Speaker 3: knew how the song went. 238 00:13:41,591 --> 00:13:45,231 Speaker 1: Is that interesting? Growing up in your you know, Aboriginal 239 00:13:45,271 --> 00:13:49,751 Speaker 1: culture and being proud of being an Aboriginal kid, and 240 00:13:49,791 --> 00:13:55,711 Speaker 1: then going to school you're not celebrated, and then you're 241 00:13:55,711 --> 00:13:59,991 Speaker 1: dealing with stuff in the playground. Did you ever report 242 00:14:00,231 --> 00:14:04,071 Speaker 1: anythink like when kids are calling your names, especially racistly us, 243 00:14:04,791 --> 00:14:06,471 Speaker 1: did you ever report it to the teachers? 244 00:14:07,671 --> 00:14:09,911 Speaker 3: To be honest, there was really nothing we could do 245 00:14:09,991 --> 00:14:13,271 Speaker 3: about it, because all the teacher would girls just yell 246 00:14:13,311 --> 00:14:15,511 Speaker 3: at them. But that wasn't enough. You've got to go 247 00:14:15,591 --> 00:14:19,991 Speaker 3: to the parents. But yeah, there's nothing we could really do. 248 00:14:20,671 --> 00:14:26,071 Speaker 1: And you're you're only in grade three, Craty. What would 249 00:14:26,111 --> 00:14:29,631 Speaker 1: you say to other young kids, young teenagers that are 250 00:14:29,631 --> 00:14:32,471 Speaker 1: listening to this yarn, whether they're black fathers, white fellas 251 00:14:33,311 --> 00:14:37,631 Speaker 1: from Africa or China, doesn't matter what nationality they are, 252 00:14:38,831 --> 00:14:42,191 Speaker 1: if they're dealing with some of this now, even in 253 00:14:42,231 --> 00:14:45,511 Speaker 1: the school yard or even on social media, what advice 254 00:14:45,551 --> 00:14:47,791 Speaker 1: would you give to them? 255 00:14:47,831 --> 00:14:53,031 Speaker 3: To be honest, old, I'd just to give some advice, say, 256 00:14:53,231 --> 00:14:56,991 Speaker 3: like you be brave and just have a saying loads 257 00:14:58,111 --> 00:14:59,871 Speaker 3: or like if we see their parents go up to 258 00:14:59,951 --> 00:15:04,311 Speaker 3: their parents and your son told me this and called 259 00:15:04,391 --> 00:15:07,471 Speaker 3: me this name, and that's okay. If no one ever 260 00:15:07,511 --> 00:15:09,551 Speaker 3: said someone who you just have a say and say 261 00:15:09,591 --> 00:15:11,951 Speaker 3: something back, fight against you. 262 00:15:11,751 --> 00:15:13,791 Speaker 1: You know, it starts with the parents. 263 00:15:13,831 --> 00:15:16,591 Speaker 3: Say go to the parents first. 264 00:15:17,111 --> 00:15:20,391 Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of I reckon, a lot of young 265 00:15:20,431 --> 00:15:24,031 Speaker 1: people in schools right across this country. I reckon they're 266 00:15:24,031 --> 00:15:27,191 Speaker 1: going to be listening to this podcast. It's not a 267 00:15:27,271 --> 00:15:29,671 Speaker 1: nice thing to talk about, you know, bullying and stuff. 268 00:15:29,671 --> 00:15:33,311 Speaker 1: But what have you learned from those experiences that you've 269 00:15:33,351 --> 00:15:36,791 Speaker 1: had which haven't been the most pleasant? What have you learned? 270 00:15:37,431 --> 00:15:38,231 Speaker 1: It's taught me a lot. 271 00:15:39,151 --> 00:15:41,151 Speaker 3: I've got more brain from it, you know, I know 272 00:15:41,191 --> 00:15:44,271 Speaker 3: how to control it with if no one is bullying. 273 00:15:44,871 --> 00:15:47,031 Speaker 3: I know what to do or what to say. Okay, 274 00:15:47,231 --> 00:15:50,591 Speaker 3: you don't say that, you know that's wrong. Yeah, it's 275 00:15:50,591 --> 00:15:52,671 Speaker 3: also made me brave with a bigger person. 276 00:15:53,151 --> 00:15:55,551 Speaker 1: And who do you talk to normally when you're feeling 277 00:15:56,071 --> 00:15:59,631 Speaker 1: like you're not coping, You're not you're not dealing with 278 00:15:59,711 --> 00:16:00,831 Speaker 1: things in your life. 279 00:16:01,791 --> 00:16:07,031 Speaker 3: Probably wild big brother? Yeah, yeah, has. 280 00:16:06,831 --> 00:16:08,111 Speaker 1: He been giving you some good advice? 281 00:16:08,471 --> 00:16:11,031 Speaker 3: Now we don't really do. We just have a you know, 282 00:16:12,551 --> 00:16:16,111 Speaker 3: we frut, you know, to be honest by it's just 283 00:16:16,231 --> 00:16:19,391 Speaker 3: life at the moment, not much at all about it 284 00:16:19,511 --> 00:16:20,831 Speaker 3: when you're in the country. 285 00:16:20,551 --> 00:16:23,791 Speaker 1: Like this, And isn't that sad sometimes to think about 286 00:16:23,831 --> 00:16:26,031 Speaker 1: that you know that you're going to be dealing with 287 00:16:26,071 --> 00:16:27,951 Speaker 1: this stuff for probably the rest of your life. 288 00:16:28,551 --> 00:16:28,751 Speaker 3: Yeah. 289 00:16:29,871 --> 00:16:33,111 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you have some better days over others. 290 00:16:33,391 --> 00:16:35,031 Speaker 3: A lot more positive than the negative. 291 00:16:35,311 --> 00:16:38,111 Speaker 1: More positive. Yeah. Well that's good because you know what, 292 00:16:38,151 --> 00:16:41,071 Speaker 1: You've got a really deadly kind of community that's been 293 00:16:41,111 --> 00:16:46,231 Speaker 1: around you, and you've got a lot of non indigenous supporters, 294 00:16:46,271 --> 00:16:50,791 Speaker 1: a lot of people that are your biggest supporters. And 295 00:16:50,911 --> 00:16:53,191 Speaker 1: I meet a lot of them all the time, and 296 00:16:53,231 --> 00:16:55,311 Speaker 1: a lot of them want to meet you. See if 297 00:16:55,311 --> 00:17:00,111 Speaker 1: you're all right? So what about sports? You love sports? Yeah? Yeah, 298 00:17:00,311 --> 00:17:04,351 Speaker 1: you love the Bunnies yea and the Tigers and you've 299 00:17:04,351 --> 00:17:05,911 Speaker 1: met him all I. 300 00:17:06,311 --> 00:17:09,191 Speaker 3: Met most of the bunnies, but yeah, a couple of times. Players. 301 00:17:09,351 --> 00:17:10,831 Speaker 1: Who do you want to meet? Who's on your hit 302 00:17:10,871 --> 00:17:12,071 Speaker 1: list that you can't wait to meet? 303 00:17:12,591 --> 00:17:13,191 Speaker 3: Real? 304 00:17:14,031 --> 00:17:20,551 Speaker 1: And he plays for the Warriors? Now, yeah, you love sports? Sports? 305 00:17:21,351 --> 00:17:23,711 Speaker 1: In my life? How did you get into playing sports? 306 00:17:24,031 --> 00:17:28,551 Speaker 3: Really? My brother and my dad just grow up always 307 00:17:29,471 --> 00:17:32,311 Speaker 3: going to my brother's footy games as a little kid, 308 00:17:33,031 --> 00:17:34,911 Speaker 3: and then yeah, I just got into it like that, 309 00:17:35,551 --> 00:17:41,631 Speaker 3: mm hmm around Luck playing basketball and then my brother playing. 310 00:17:42,111 --> 00:17:43,991 Speaker 1: I think it's so good that you got older cousins 311 00:17:44,071 --> 00:17:46,511 Speaker 1: and kind of role models that you can look up to. 312 00:17:47,711 --> 00:17:49,591 Speaker 1: How important is it to have some of those role 313 00:17:49,591 --> 00:17:50,631 Speaker 1: models in the community. 314 00:17:51,471 --> 00:17:54,951 Speaker 3: It's very important, you know Luck I up to my day. 315 00:17:55,391 --> 00:17:58,351 Speaker 1: He's a good role model. Yeah. What is he a 316 00:17:58,391 --> 00:18:02,671 Speaker 1: plumber or electrician? What does he do? Carpenter? Yeah? Yeah 317 00:18:04,271 --> 00:18:07,151 Speaker 1: for fear four year brought his own new got a 318 00:18:07,151 --> 00:18:10,671 Speaker 1: good job, plays footy, moved out of home. That's going 319 00:18:10,751 --> 00:18:14,391 Speaker 1: to be you. That's only one day you look forward 320 00:18:14,431 --> 00:18:18,351 Speaker 1: to driving? Yeah, I went. How far are you away 321 00:18:18,351 --> 00:18:23,951 Speaker 1: to get your Learners sixteen next year. Yeah, can't wait. 322 00:18:24,071 --> 00:18:27,671 Speaker 1: My boy's got to be on the road. Watch out, kwaity. 323 00:18:27,911 --> 00:18:32,071 Speaker 1: I'm really glad that I finally got you to come 324 00:18:32,111 --> 00:18:37,911 Speaker 1: onto podcast, especially for this really important topic around mental fitness. 325 00:18:38,551 --> 00:18:42,031 Speaker 1: And that's the work that I do while I sit 326 00:18:42,071 --> 00:18:43,831 Speaker 1: on the board. It got you for life. You know, 327 00:18:43,871 --> 00:18:47,031 Speaker 1: we're trying to support, especially young people when it comes 328 00:18:47,071 --> 00:18:51,551 Speaker 1: to you know, teaching people some of those coping mechanisms 329 00:18:52,111 --> 00:18:56,231 Speaker 1: to be able to support themselves, especially when life throws 330 00:18:56,271 --> 00:18:59,991 Speaker 1: different things at your year. One day, everything's all good, 331 00:19:00,071 --> 00:19:02,391 Speaker 1: next day you might not be feeling one hundred percent. 332 00:19:03,071 --> 00:19:06,871 Speaker 1: So trying to get out there to schools and you know, 333 00:19:07,071 --> 00:19:11,391 Speaker 1: deliver these programs to young people. Do you think when 334 00:19:11,431 --> 00:19:14,871 Speaker 1: you was in grade say five, grade six, if they 335 00:19:14,911 --> 00:19:16,951 Speaker 1: got YOUA for life, came into the school and you're 336 00:19:16,991 --> 00:19:21,311 Speaker 1: already learning about, you know, your mental fitness and building 337 00:19:21,351 --> 00:19:24,151 Speaker 1: your emotional muscle, do you think that would have helped 338 00:19:24,191 --> 00:19:26,911 Speaker 1: you in terms of dealing with some of the bullying. Yeah, 339 00:19:27,151 --> 00:19:32,551 Speaker 1: help a lot, you know, And there's nothing out there, really, 340 00:19:33,031 --> 00:19:36,071 Speaker 1: there's not really good school. 341 00:19:37,191 --> 00:19:40,151 Speaker 3: I wonder el was learning about Cinderella's drub and shoe. 342 00:19:41,391 --> 00:19:41,871 Speaker 3: I'm not just. 343 00:19:44,111 --> 00:19:48,071 Speaker 1: Not doing this, not learning anything. So we need to 344 00:19:48,071 --> 00:19:50,391 Speaker 1: get Gotcha for Life out there into more schools and 345 00:19:50,431 --> 00:19:54,391 Speaker 1: hopefully with this podcast partnership, we can have more mob 346 00:19:55,471 --> 00:19:58,111 Speaker 1: go through some of the Gotcha for Life programs. Sure, 347 00:19:58,711 --> 00:20:03,351 Speaker 1: I'm excited that you're part of this amazing partnership and 348 00:20:03,471 --> 00:20:07,591 Speaker 1: more people that even if they don't know your story, 349 00:20:07,951 --> 00:20:10,311 Speaker 1: now they're going to know. You know that you're just 350 00:20:10,351 --> 00:20:13,151 Speaker 1: another kid. Well you're not a kid. You're a young man. 351 00:20:13,951 --> 00:20:17,431 Speaker 1: You're looking forward to getting your license and you're looking 352 00:20:17,471 --> 00:20:20,671 Speaker 1: for the next big thing. You want to get back 353 00:20:20,671 --> 00:20:24,511 Speaker 1: into acting. You're waiting for the call. Yeah, I can't wait, 354 00:20:24,511 --> 00:20:27,471 Speaker 1: my boy, to see what's next for you. So if 355 00:20:27,471 --> 00:20:29,111 Speaker 1: you want to give anyone a shout out. 356 00:20:29,511 --> 00:20:35,191 Speaker 3: Shout up to shout at their heads up, barbershop. 357 00:20:34,951 --> 00:20:39,911 Speaker 1: Heads up, barbershop and deadly. I'm just going to say 358 00:20:39,911 --> 00:20:42,111 Speaker 1: really quickly, Red Ferm Community Center has been a really 359 00:20:42,151 --> 00:20:45,831 Speaker 1: good place for you to go and hang out and 360 00:20:45,951 --> 00:20:49,151 Speaker 1: just a place where you feel like you belong. That's 361 00:20:49,191 --> 00:20:50,071 Speaker 1: really important, isn't. 362 00:20:50,071 --> 00:20:53,231 Speaker 3: It's like family there. You know, there's all the boys, 363 00:20:53,311 --> 00:20:57,871 Speaker 3: like literally know everyone's namely, you know everyone have a laugh, 364 00:20:58,671 --> 00:20:59,551 Speaker 3: play basketball. 365 00:21:00,111 --> 00:21:01,471 Speaker 1: I know you want to get back to Sydney your 366 00:21:01,471 --> 00:21:02,791 Speaker 1: feet to itch you to go and hang out with 367 00:21:02,831 --> 00:21:05,351 Speaker 1: the boys again. I'll have to make it happen. I 368 00:21:05,471 --> 00:21:07,351 Speaker 1: get him back to Sydney to see the boys in 369 00:21:07,351 --> 00:21:10,351 Speaker 1: the school holidays. For all you mob that have been listening, 370 00:21:10,791 --> 00:21:12,951 Speaker 1: it's been quite some time since I've had an opportunity 371 00:21:12,951 --> 00:21:17,431 Speaker 1: to catch up with my nephew quaidos and man his 372 00:21:17,631 --> 00:21:22,471 Speaker 1: story if you haven't followed, The Australian Story on ABC 373 00:21:22,951 --> 00:21:26,551 Speaker 1: is a really good documentary and there's two lots. They 374 00:21:27,391 --> 00:21:29,551 Speaker 1: done a story and then came back and done another 375 00:21:29,591 --> 00:21:32,751 Speaker 1: story to kind of see, you know, what Quayden has 376 00:21:32,791 --> 00:21:35,391 Speaker 1: been up to and the kind of life that he's 377 00:21:35,431 --> 00:21:39,071 Speaker 1: living now, which you can see he's enjoying every minute 378 00:21:39,071 --> 00:21:41,871 Speaker 1: of it, but still has some of those moments where 379 00:21:43,191 --> 00:21:47,031 Speaker 1: life's not one hundred percent and he did mention some 380 00:21:47,191 --> 00:21:50,151 Speaker 1: things around racism. I just want to make a point 381 00:21:50,151 --> 00:21:52,591 Speaker 1: that if it's made anyone feel a little bit triggered, 382 00:21:53,191 --> 00:21:56,511 Speaker 1: we do have a national hotline one three YARN. I 383 00:21:56,551 --> 00:21:59,591 Speaker 1: want a big shout out to the mob at Redfern 384 00:21:59,631 --> 00:22:04,631 Speaker 1: Youth Connect for providing a culturally safe spy for our 385 00:22:04,711 --> 00:22:07,791 Speaker 1: young people to go and hang out a place where 386 00:22:07,831 --> 00:22:10,151 Speaker 1: they feel proud of who they are as abational kids, 387 00:22:10,471 --> 00:22:12,711 Speaker 1: and a place where that they feel where they belong. 388 00:22:13,471 --> 00:22:16,071 Speaker 1: Love the work that you do, Annie Marg and Uncle Soul. 389 00:22:16,591 --> 00:22:18,431 Speaker 1: Big shout out to all the staff there and all 390 00:22:18,431 --> 00:22:23,031 Speaker 1: the volunteers, and yeah, if anyone wants to support some 391 00:22:23,151 --> 00:22:25,351 Speaker 1: of the work in our community, reach out to Redfern 392 00:22:25,431 --> 00:22:26,191 Speaker 1: Youth Connect. 393 00:22:26,511 --> 00:22:26,671 Speaker 2: Well. 394 00:22:26,711 --> 00:22:29,951 Speaker 1: This has been an amazing opportunity to finally have my 395 00:22:30,111 --> 00:22:34,031 Speaker 1: nephew Quaydon Bales on the Black Magic Women podcast. Thanks 396 00:22:34,031 --> 00:22:37,311 Speaker 1: to Gotcha for Life for this partnership series, and I 397 00:22:37,351 --> 00:22:40,871 Speaker 1: hope you come back and listen to the next episode 398 00:22:40,871 --> 00:22:44,031 Speaker 1: because we've got someone else that's really deadly as well. 399 00:22:44,231 --> 00:22:47,791 Speaker 1: To stay tuned to the Gotcha for Life partnership series. 400 00:22:47,871 --> 00:22:50,431 Speaker 1: I hope you've enjoyed this year. Until next time, Vibe 401 00:22:50,431 --> 00:22:50,791 Speaker 1: for now. 402 00:22:52,551 --> 00:22:56,191 Speaker 2: Thanks for tuning in to mental fitness conversations. 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