Speaker 1: Hello, my name's Santasha Nabananga Bamblet. I'm a proud yor
Speaker 1: the Order Kerni Whoalbury and a waddery woman. And before
Speaker 1: we get started on She's on the Money podcast, I
Speaker 1: would like to acknowledge the traditional custodians of the land
Speaker 1: of which this podcast is recorded on a wondery country,
Speaker 1: acknowledging the elders, the ancestors and the next generation coming
Speaker 1: through as this podcast is about connecting, empowering, knowledge sharing
Speaker 1: and the storytelling of you to make a difference for
Speaker 1: today and lasting impact for tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Let's get into it.
Speaker 3: She's on the Money, She's on the Money.
Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to She's on the Money, the podcasts
Speaker 2: for millennials who want financial freedom. My name is beck
Speaker 2: Side and Jess Ricky joins me today because it is Friday,
Speaker 2: and today we celebrate you the incredible She's on the
Speaker 2: Money community. Today we'll be sharing our favorite money wins.
Speaker 2: We'll be helping to answer a juicy money dilemma, which
Speaker 2: this week is all about keeping your clothes budget for
Speaker 2: a big schedule of events by purchasing fast fashion and
Speaker 2: we unpack something that you slim into our DMS about
Speaker 2: this week. You asked how to get on the same
Speaker 2: page with budget and throw away items when organizing a
Speaker 2: hen's weekend with your besties. That sounds juicy? It does,
Speaker 2: isn't that?
Speaker 4: Jess?
Speaker 2: How you going? I'm good?
Speaker 5: But today our team has doubled today and we have
Speaker 5: not one, but two guests who are fellow podcasters, journalists
Speaker 5: and of course twin Flames Sally McMullen and Alex Horrigan
Speaker 5: aka the Two break Chicks. Welcome down, Welcome, I'm so excited.
Speaker 5: We are so pomed to have you. I feel like
Speaker 5: the vibes are good. The vibes are immaculate, as always,
Speaker 5: overcomes some technical difficulties, and I think today's podcast is
Speaker 5: going to be such a good one.
Speaker 2: I think. So how's your week beans? Girls?
Speaker 4: Been good? We were talking about it earlier and we
Speaker 4: were saying, it was Sal's birthday yesterday and we went
Speaker 4: and visited an animal shelter that I used to volunteer
Speaker 4: at to try and help some of the animals.
Speaker 2: Get It was a very advice. Yeah, celebrations. We were
Speaker 2: just cuddling like kittens and bunnies. And however, I was
Speaker 2: like this every day. I was literally like, can we
Speaker 2: come do this once a month? Honestly? And I was
Speaker 2: like sweet.
Speaker 5: They would have been amazed too, to like get I
Speaker 5: feel like you guys have such a big platform even
Speaker 5: if a few people adopted pets off the back of that, Like,
Speaker 5: what a big impact that you're having.
Speaker 2: What a special way to spend your birthday.
Speaker 5: And it was so cute. They put a video up
Speaker 5: on Instagram and TikTok. You should go watch. It's freaking adorable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, seriously, that's really cute. Did you guys get
Speaker 2: up to anything else? What do we do? We had
Speaker 2: coffee with whipped cream on it. That was yeah, and
Speaker 2: we had bagels. Lovely, lovely. A good week overall, Jess,
Speaker 2: how about you? Has a week been? It's been good?
Speaker 5: Nothing exciting to report really, where just plodding along.
Speaker 2: It's getting cold. Not loving that. I love that it's
Speaker 2: getting cold. I'm so excited. Like the air is like
Speaker 2: a bit crisper, and I'm like, oh, there's nothing better
Speaker 2: than a crispy cold morning.
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm so in the minority here, Like cold morning,
Speaker 5: I don't want to get out of bed.
Speaker 2: I just want to stay there.
Speaker 4: Though I agree, like next week when it's cold in
Speaker 4: the morning, I'll be like, behave this. This is terrible,
Speaker 4: change my mind every two seconds. Yeah, exactly. We're a
Speaker 4: big ball of contradictions.
Speaker 2: How about you back, how's your week been. My week's
Speaker 2: been really, really nice, just been chillin's, been cruised and
Speaker 2: just been living life. I honestly haven't done too much.
Speaker 2: I just got back from Sydney. My girlfriend met my
Speaker 2: parents for the first time. So let's get real serious.
Speaker 2: You gotta get real serious. But yeah, other than that,
Speaker 2: nothing really, But I am keen to jump straight into
Speaker 2: your muney wins slash losses.
Speaker 5: All right, let me get into it, because I do, have,
Speaker 5: of course, some goodies for you guys this week. Firstly,
Speaker 5: I've got a money win from sus who said money win.
Speaker 5: Found out that Shannon's cur insurance also do roadside assistance
Speaker 5: and one payment can cover multiple cars on one.
Speaker 2: Policy or price.
Speaker 5: This is my pro tip because my car broke down
Speaker 5: recently and I don't have roadside assistance, but my boyfriend
Speaker 5: does and you can.
Speaker 2: Use it for multiple cars. So if you live.
Speaker 5: With somebody or if you have a partner, see if
Speaker 5: their policy covers more than one because then you don't
Speaker 5: have to pay for two, which is a dream.
Speaker 2: That is amazing. Where was that again?
Speaker 1: Here?
Speaker 5: Take a little note next, I've got a money in
Speaker 5: from Melissa who said we got married recently and I
Speaker 5: bought way too much alcohol for the reception. The bottle
Speaker 5: shop which we purchased them from. Let us return what
Speaker 5: we didn't open. Eighteen hundred bucks back in her pocket.
Speaker 2: Or eighteen hundred bucks is a lot of alcohols are
Speaker 2: not drink.
Speaker 6: That's so good that we were there, obviously.
Speaker 5: I've got a money lost from Amber, who said I
Speaker 5: went to cancel my Netflix subscription thinking I had a
Speaker 5: few more days until the next billing cycle, only to
Speaker 5: find out that the billing cycle had started that day
Speaker 5: and I had to pay for another month.
Speaker 2: Hate that sucks. Note them down, you're.
Speaker 4: Not canceled and then it just doesn't renew the next month?
Speaker 4: Or does it cancel when you cancel?
Speaker 5: I think it may be already debited or pro Sometimes
Speaker 5: they have like a you got.
Speaker 2: To give us twenty four hours notice or whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I know that suck.
Speaker 4: The thing that I like about like iTunes, for example,
Speaker 4: is if you subscribe to something through iTunes, you can
Speaker 4: go into that app and then like unsubscribed, but it'll
Speaker 4: take you to the expiry date, so you don't have
Speaker 4: to remember when it's gonna, you know, rebill you. Just
Speaker 4: like this will expire on the twenty seventh of April,
Speaker 4: mix dounning.
Speaker 2: It's all in one place. It's easy. Some places like
Speaker 2: will cancel the same day and refund you, which is ideal.
Speaker 2: I don't think Netflix is going to do that though.
Speaker 5: I can't imagine Netflix taking it because I've got a
Speaker 5: money in from Ayisha who said money win. I've been
Speaker 5: listing our unused items on Facebook Marketplace and in the
Speaker 5: last week I've made twelve hundred fifty dollars on stuff
Speaker 5: that wasn't being used.
Speaker 2: That's so good. There's what's that statistic?
Speaker 5: Everybody has like six hundred dollars worth of stuff in
Speaker 5: their house and that they're not using that could be sold,
Speaker 5: which I think is super interesting.
Speaker 2: I believe I reckon.
Speaker 4: My parents are probably like a gold mine. Remember that
Speaker 4: thing when like all the Disney VCRs went by al
Speaker 4: and I was that mom, Yeah, give me the videos.
Speaker 2: It's giving Antiques Roadshow. Oh my god.
Speaker 5: I loved Antiques Roadshow when I was home sick as
Speaker 5: a kid, buy a little antiques roadshows.
Speaker 2: That's sent in the afternoon. Incredible.
Speaker 5: And lastly, this week, I've got a money win from
Speaker 5: Claire who said, my boyfriend and I have been craving
Speaker 5: a Southeast Asia getaway and I just found out I'm
Speaker 5: going to be sent to Thailand for work in a
Speaker 5: few weeks. So we really only need to sort some
Speaker 5: extra accommodation his flights and some sightseeing costs.
Speaker 2: That's so good, love it. That c very exciting.
Speaker 5: Now we have been saying to anybody coming on the show,
Speaker 5: we'd love for you to join in. So I was wondering,
Speaker 5: do you gals happen to have a money win or
Speaker 5: a money lost to share with?
Speaker 2: Everybody?
Speaker 4: Got boths?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've got bothes. Should I start with the win?
Speaker 2: Let's start with a loss so we can end on
Speaker 2: a whim. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Okay, So this was very fresh, this was very recent.
Speaker 2: There were tears. Oh no, I'm gonna say. I was like,
Speaker 2: I didn't know you were going to share this.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm so excited, which is like, and our show
Speaker 7: is all about life lessons, so there is a life
Speaker 7: lesson at the end of this.
Speaker 4: But sal and I booked Hawaii flights during one of
Speaker 4: their like really good sales earlier this year. And then
Speaker 4: when we went to book our accommodation, it was also
Speaker 4: during a week that was like it was boxing days,
Speaker 4: so we were a bit tired from doing like sail recaps.
Speaker 2: We'd also just launched planners.
Speaker 4: It was just a big week, right, So I was
Speaker 4: a bit sleepy, bit tired, and I was also excited
Speaker 4: to be booking a commodation.
Speaker 2: I was like, let's go babbablah.
Speaker 4: And the way that my brain works when i'm excited,
Speaker 4: I'm just like a bit of a million miles an hour.
Speaker 4: And I was kind of rushing, but not because I
Speaker 4: wanted to get it done, but I was like, yeah,
Speaker 4: let's book accommodation.
Speaker 2: And so we're going in May. And then on the.
Speaker 4: Weekend, I got a notification on an email that I
Speaker 4: was like, what why is this email getting emails because
Speaker 4: it's not one that I use anymore, And it was
Speaker 4: like rate you'll stay at the hotel wed booked, and
Speaker 4: I was like what do you rate? My say, what
Speaker 4: are you talking about? I was like, you silly goose.
Speaker 4: I open it and it's the exact dates that were
Speaker 4: going in May, but in.
Speaker 2: March, oh much.
Speaker 4: Not May, because I am an idiot, and I was like,
Speaker 4: the way my tummy dropped, I was like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 4: And like Hawaii accommodation is definitely towards like the higher
Speaker 4: higher of the spectrum, Like the flights were very affordable,
Speaker 4: but the accommodation was definitely where we were. It was oh,
Speaker 4: and I just felt sick and I just called down
Speaker 4: and I was crying my eyes out and I was like.
Speaker 2: I'm just wasting all this money.
Speaker 4: And then so I was like it's okay, I'm not
Speaker 4: mad at you don't worry and that's a good friend.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I know.
Speaker 4: I was like, thank you so much, like you definitely
Speaker 4: could have annoyed if you wanted to be. And then anyway,
Speaker 4: I called the hotel and they were like, it's okay.
Speaker 2: You got charged a no show fee, which.
Speaker 4: Is only the one night rather than six nights, which
Speaker 4: was a lot better, but it was still a couple
Speaker 4: one hundred dollars, which I was like, I have learned
Speaker 4: a veriable lesson that I will be double checking not
Speaker 4: only dates, but the email, like the contact email, because
Speaker 4: I would have picked up on it so much more.
Speaker 4: But for some reason, you know how you know Chrome
Speaker 4: and Google can like automatically load an email.
Speaker 2: It had automatically loaded some rogue email from years ago
Speaker 2: that I was.
Speaker 4: Like, Oh, it was like an old world like Club
Speaker 4: sixty seven, like the most.
Speaker 2: Random one that you would never pick. Yeah, that one.
Speaker 5: Yeah really, And you're embarrassed when you're on the phone
Speaker 5: to the person and like what email is the booking
Speaker 5: under and you're like, oh, it's horse Girl.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And it was just as well.
Speaker 4: I think she was so nice, which was great because
Speaker 4: I think she could tell that.
Speaker 8: I was like, and I booked it on and I
Speaker 8: was like, I know that there's probably so many people
Speaker 8: that have done that, but there's probably so many people
Speaker 8: who have booked holidays that I just want everyone to
Speaker 8: go and recheck the dates and details and don't do
Speaker 8: what I did.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.
Speaker 5: Whenever I book anything with anyone to travel, I always
Speaker 5: make sure that I forward the email to everyone going,
Speaker 5: because I go it's a group responsibility because you've all
Speaker 5: also seen the email. So if I have stuffed something
Speaker 5: up when I booked it, you have a chance.
Speaker 2: To catch it. You didn't see it either, Yeah, plod
Speaker 2: and ability our fault group. Yeah, exactly, it's the group's
Speaker 2: exactly exactly exactly.
Speaker 5: Lesson learned. It sounds like, what's the wind to bring
Speaker 5: it back up?
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. We'll finish on a high.
Speaker 4: So Al and I both huge fans of cash back
Speaker 4: because we're both big shoppers, but we also love to
Speaker 4: like either save money or get money back whenever we can. Really,
Speaker 4: this goes for any cash back service that you like
Speaker 4: to use. And I've been using it for maybe the
Speaker 4: last year or so and I haven't ever withdrawn any
Speaker 4: of the money. And I had a goal that I
Speaker 4: wouldn't touch it until I'd gotten five hundred dollars cash
Speaker 4: back saved. And I'm almost there. I'm at like four
Speaker 4: hundred and seventy something, and it's largely because my local
Speaker 4: cafe does cash back. I buy coffee every single day,
Speaker 4: which is my toxic trait, which I know, but I've
Speaker 4: like factored that into my budget. But now I'm like,
Speaker 4: I'm going to get five hundred dollars back just from
Speaker 4: your coffee, just from my coffee, which was an expense
Speaker 4: I was already going to do exactly, No, I'm going
Speaker 4: to buy something stupid. Yes, good good, like i'maly gonna
Speaker 4: withdraw and like yeah by like a treat.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, awesome. That's incredible. And it just adds up
Speaker 5: so quick, really, doesn't it.
Speaker 2: We stand up? Yeah, I couldn't believe it. I want
Speaker 2: to know what stand means well, because we don't have time.
Speaker 2: We don't have time maybe off air, but maybe one
Speaker 2: day I'll feel that out. Okay, So next up, we're
Speaker 2: going to go through some broke tips, and I know
Speaker 2: that you girls came with one each, which I'm very
Speaker 2: excited about. So I'm just going to share one from
Speaker 2: the community and then we'll get to yours. So my
Speaker 2: first and only broke tip for this week comes from Alyssa,
Speaker 2: who says that she posted to a local buy nothing
Speaker 2: page to borrow a steamer, and one lovely lady obliged,
Speaker 2: and today she steamed her whole house a return to
Speaker 2: Wednesday morning. So basically her tip is to just go
Speaker 2: into your local community pages on Facebook or marketplace or wherever,
Speaker 2: and literally you don't have to go to like Bunnings,
Speaker 2: like borrow like a carpet cleaner. You know, when you're
Speaker 2: going to move out of a house, you need to
Speaker 2: full lease clean. Just asking the question and seeing what's
Speaker 2: out there in your community pages, seeing if you can
Speaker 2: just borrow something, even if it's something as small as
Speaker 2: like a mop for a broom or a dustpan, just borrow,
Speaker 2: see what you can borrow, and just kind of like
Speaker 2: create a little kind of similar to what you were saying,
Speaker 2: just like ages ago, just creating this like kind of
Speaker 2: like swap and sell sort of community vibe. That way,
Speaker 2: you almost never have to spend money on just those
Speaker 2: little things, you know, like cleaning products and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: So I just think that's a really great idea. Jump
Speaker 2: onto community pages and just put the word out there
Speaker 2: before you spend money, because they can be very very pricey. Okay,
Speaker 2: sal and l can we grab yours? Of course? Do
Speaker 2: you want to kick off sound? Yeah? Sure, so over
Speaker 2: at two Broke Chicks.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I reckon, we're gonna have the same one,
Speaker 4: do you think I I don't think so, okay, but maybe.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: My brain just tingled a bit. We like joined telepathically.
Speaker 2: It's the twin flame thing. Yeah. Sometimes we won't play
Speaker 2: and stuff and then.
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh wait, And a lot of the time
Speaker 4: we do because otherwise we'll come prepared with the exact
Speaker 4: same respect I know.
Speaker 2: I find now I feel fine, say okay, we're good.
Speaker 4: But you know, at two Broke Chicks, we love to
Speaker 4: provide tips for all different types of savers and budgeters
Speaker 4: and shoppers because we know that like, nobody has the
Speaker 4: same money mindset. But I think for us, when we're
Speaker 4: talking about savings goals, a lot of people are like,
Speaker 4: I can't save five thousand dollars in a year. That's,
Speaker 4: you know, too much, especially with the cost of living,
Speaker 4: crisis and everything, which I definitely think is a valid
Speaker 4: concern and is something that throughout pretty much all of
Speaker 4: my twenties was something that I thought, and it's because
Speaker 4: I was never breaking it down day by day. I
Speaker 4: was always looking at it maybe monthly, and I was like,
Speaker 4: I can't afford to squirrel away hundreds of dollars a month,
Speaker 4: Like it's just not going to happen.
Speaker 2: I never have that money at the end of the month.
Speaker 4: But so my tip, my Broke Chick tip for today,
Speaker 4: is that you can start small and it only takes
Speaker 4: thirteen dollars and set any cents per day to add
Speaker 4: up to five thousand dollars per year. Yeah, and like
Speaker 4: think about how many times you walk out your front
Speaker 4: door and you literally bend down to tie your shoe
Speaker 4: and you all have a sudden spend literally yeah, seriously
Speaker 4: speaking of buying the coffees every morning. So I think
Speaker 4: either you can set up the automatic transfer or you
Speaker 4: can build that habit and do it every single morning
Speaker 4: when you're having a coffee or when you're having a brecky.
Speaker 4: And by the end of the five thousand dollars, that
Speaker 4: is a lot of money.
Speaker 5: That's heaps of cash that you could put something good.
Speaker 5: You could put it Christmas, you could spend it on
Speaker 5: the holiday treat yourself.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Obviously that also comes down to expendable income, like you
Speaker 4: have to have like that thirteen.
Speaker 2: Seventy a day. But that's the thing.
Speaker 4: You can kind of cater it towards whatever the goal is,
Speaker 4: even if it's a dollar a day and then you
Speaker 4: end up with, you know, over three hundred and sixty dollars,
Speaker 4: It all adds up business presence down for yourself. My
Speaker 4: money tip at the moment is I'm really trying to
Speaker 4: embrace saving on money that I'm already spending, Like on
Speaker 4: money that's already kind of happening to be spent leaving
Speaker 4: my account as part of process of life. And I
Speaker 4: love saving, but I also want to live my life
Speaker 4: like I'm in my twenties. I want to have fun,
Speaker 4: Like I want to be able to go out and
Speaker 4: experiencings as much as I want to do that.
Speaker 2: So if I want to go out to dinners and
Speaker 2: I want to do that, I want to get some
Speaker 2: cockie teas. That's cocktails for anyone that speaks normal. I'm
Speaker 2: playing at home. I was thinking something very different. Yeah, look,
Speaker 2: that's great too.
Speaker 4: But and so what I've been doing is using a
Speaker 4: lot of apps, whether that's beauty.
Speaker 2: Fashion or groceries.
Speaker 4: Another one which has been sent into us by one
Speaker 4: of our audience members was first Table, where you save
Speaker 4: a certain discount or percentage on your meat by booking
Speaker 4: an earlier time slot.
Speaker 2: Another Yeah, it's cool.
Speaker 4: So if you eat maybe that like five, five thirty
Speaker 4: or six, you save a certain percentage off your meal.
Speaker 2: And I love an early dinner, so like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if I'm gonna have a cocktail too, two cocktails,
Speaker 4: I'm asleep by eight thirty.
Speaker 2: Yeah da, I'm like, I'm good.
Speaker 4: I'm having a little nat and I'm hungry by then, Yeah,
Speaker 4: same eat club. Eat club will show you like discounts
Speaker 4: for like takeaway and dining meals. And then another one
Speaker 4: was just switching to a high interest savings account and
Speaker 4: just making the money that's in my savings work harder
Speaker 4: for me. And I don't hundred do anything like I
Speaker 4: think there's so many little things that we can just
Speaker 4: set up and just like set and forget that, or
Speaker 4: just incorporate into the habit in our spending that we're
Speaker 4: going to save a little bit more. And it's basically
Speaker 4: just me embracing like seventeen year old Alex who would
Speaker 4: search for an hour for like a fifteen percent off
Speaker 4: promo cope that was like I will get one. I
Speaker 4: will say five dollars if my life depended on it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's just like incorporated into my big girl,
Speaker 2: grown up spending.
Speaker 4: I love that because it's not about like restricting your spending.
Speaker 4: It's about complimenting the spanker that you're already doing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, good job, thanks awesome, those are so good. First table?
Speaker 2: Was it is that?
Speaker 9: What?
Speaker 2: It's first table? Es table? Okay, I'm going to look
Speaker 2: into that. Thank you much, all right, guys, let's go
Speaker 2: to a quick break and on the other side, we're
Speaker 2: going to be unpacking a money dilemma, which this week
Speaker 2: is all about keeping your clothes budget for a big
Speaker 2: schedule of events by purchasing fast fashion. And then we
Speaker 2: unpack something that you slid into our dms about this week,
Speaker 2: you asked how to get on the same page with
Speaker 2: budget and throw away items when organizing a hen's weekend
Speaker 2: with your besties. Don't go anywhere. Welcome back, everybody. Let's
Speaker 2: take a listen to this week's money dilemma.
Speaker 3: Hi, there, have you got a money dilemma you just
Speaker 3: can't solve? The Sheese on the Money team is here
Speaker 3: to help. Every week we tackle your dilemmas, both big
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Speaker 2: A listen to this week's money dilemma. Hey, babes, love
Speaker 2: the pod.
Speaker 9: I'm a single gal in my thirties on sixty K
Speaker 9: before super All my friends are getting married this year
Speaker 9: and having milestone birthdays. Everyone's already getting new, expensive outfits
Speaker 9: for these events and I'm freaking out. I can afford
Speaker 9: to get what I need through fast fashion brands, but
Speaker 9: I know they're not good.
Speaker 2: What would you do interesting?
Speaker 5: There's such a big debate around fast fashion, and the
Speaker 5: one thing that I really want to articulate is, as
Speaker 5: much as I think it is really important to consume
Speaker 5: consciously the responsibility of ecological and impact, it should be
Speaker 5: sitting with large corporations, not on an individual on the
Speaker 5: level that people are current, like, yes, we all have
Speaker 5: an individual responsibility to do the best that we can.
Speaker 5: But also I think that there's been a bit of
Speaker 5: a trend of demonizing people who shop fast fashioned brands.
Speaker 5: And I think sometimes all you can afford is the
Speaker 5: shirt from Kmart, and if you wear that shirt from
Speaker 5: Kmart every day for you know, however many years, you're
Speaker 5: still spending your money. Well, I think the issue is
Speaker 5: the pressure that this girl is feeling maybe to wear
Speaker 5: something different to one of these events every time re
Speaker 5: wear your clothes. I think that that is so fine.
Speaker 5: But I just really wanted to table at the start
Speaker 5: of this because I feel very strongly about it. It
Speaker 5: really frustrates me that we really are canceling people and
Speaker 5: coming after people for doing things that might be within
Speaker 5: their means, Like not everybody can afford to buy the
Speaker 5: super ethical, you know, well produced garments, and I understand
Speaker 5: that that's the gold standard and that's what we all
Speaker 5: really want to do, but it's just not attainable for everybody.
Speaker 5: And I don't think that it's fair to be putting
Speaker 5: pressure on individuals when really the problem is the conglomerates
Speaker 5: that are producing these things unethically.
Speaker 2: One not.
Speaker 4: Have said it better, honestly, because I think there's two
Speaker 4: reasons surrounding this. And the first one that I wrote
Speaker 4: down was the most common reason is that.
Speaker 2: People can't afford to spend more.
Speaker 4: We're in a cost of living crisis, and we're vilifying
Speaker 4: people for shopping within their means and we're in their budget.
Speaker 4: And I do think there is the social stigma, society
Speaker 4: stigma that has been pushed especially onto women, that we
Speaker 4: have to always look different and be wearing something different,
Speaker 4: especially for big events. And then the second one is
Speaker 4: that fast fashion does tend to have more inclusive and
Speaker 4: extensive size ranges. You know, that is often also another
Speaker 4: reason why people are shopping fast fashion. There was a
Speaker 4: really interesting article written in Fashion Journal by an Australian
Speaker 4: model called it Jennifer at emmerely, I'm.
Speaker 2: Assuming I'm so sorry if I butchered that last name.
Speaker 4: Unsustainable fashion's aversion to size inclusivity, and in her articles
Speaker 4: she wrote sustainable fashion generally excludes women over a size twelve,
Speaker 4: especially in Australia. She continued to say, for anyone above
Speaker 4: a size sixteen, it's impossible to cut out fast fashion
Speaker 4: completely because what else do you wear? And given that
Speaker 4: the average size of an Australian woman is a fourteen
Speaker 4: to sixteen, this kind of highlights the issue that even
Speaker 4: if people want to, you know, shop more sustainably and
Speaker 4: with a slower fashion brand, there's not as many options.
Speaker 2: I do think this is slowly.
Speaker 4: Improving and we're seeing, you know, more brands come out
Speaker 4: with more exclusive size ranges. But this is also a
Speaker 4: thing to take into consideration, that people actually can't find
Speaker 4: the things to wear.
Speaker 2: That's a really good point. I had not even thought
Speaker 2: about that, even like, you know, I was going to
Speaker 2: suggest like op shopping and things like that, but even
Speaker 2: even then it can be really yeah hard to You
Speaker 2: might see one thing you like and it's like way
Speaker 2: too big or way too small for you. So it's
Speaker 2: like even then it's not really always the best option
Speaker 2: or always the you know option that's going to Yeah,
Speaker 2: I guess take you of the line, but yeah, I
Speaker 2: think it really is. I think just kind of take
Speaker 2: away that pressure of having to wear something new for
Speaker 2: like big events, yet absolutely re wear your clothes.
Speaker 4: I really think as well, Like, think about how many
Speaker 4: times you have looked at someone at a wedding and thought, oh,
Speaker 4: I've seen them wear that before. I've ever noticed when
Speaker 4: someone's worn something more than once. So I do think
Speaker 4: it is completely in our own head, but also it's
Speaker 4: what has been pushed on to us, so you know,
Speaker 4: we always have to be fashionable and I'm the newest
Speaker 4: trend and all that kind of stuff. But as well,
Speaker 4: I saw a creator on TikTok called brook Upden speaking
Speaker 4: about shopping your own wardrobe and she said this quote
Speaker 4: in it, and I thought that was so powerful, and
Speaker 4: she was like, are you bored of your wardrobe or
Speaker 4: are you bored of how you style it? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 4: I love that, Like if you can just tweak some
Speaker 4: things on how you're styling things in your wardrobe or
Speaker 4: pair it differently. You're going to feel really really differently
Speaker 4: about one piece of clothing and it'll completely change your
Speaker 4: perspective on it. That's what I was going to say,
Speaker 4: Like the power of accessories really can change up an
Speaker 4: outfit or even the way that you do your makeup
Speaker 4: or the way that you do your hair. If it's
Speaker 4: for you know, a wedding or a big birthday or
Speaker 4: something like, there are options for you to I suppose
Speaker 4: customize the one outfit, Like we've all seen that episode
Speaker 4: of The Simpsons and March has that like one pink
Speaker 4: Chanel suit she like.
Speaker 2: Tailor is it to be a billion different outfits? We
Speaker 2: don't have to go that extreme. But she's so sad too,
Speaker 2: But I love March. We have the same birthday, by
Speaker 2: the way, do you that is amazing? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Flex, But yeah, I do really think that you can
Speaker 4: accessorize within your own wardrobe or if you do, you know,
Speaker 4: want to perhaps just splurge on maybe a different pair
Speaker 4: of shoes or jewelry. You don't have to have a
Speaker 4: completely new outfit for every single event, because even if
Speaker 4: you're shopping fast fashion, but you're buying a new outfit
Speaker 4: for every single event that you have coming up in
Speaker 4: the air that's going to add up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so true.
Speaker 5: There's other ways that you're in, like you have an
Speaker 5: environmental impact in other ways as well. I think the
Speaker 5: other thing i'd say is look into maybe swapping clothes
Speaker 5: with your friends if you can. If everyone's buying stuff
Speaker 5: for these events, it sounds like everyone's gonna have fancy stuff.
Speaker 5: Maybe you can all do a trade and you can
Speaker 5: wear each other's stuff, or you can rent things like,
Speaker 5: there are other options as well. But I think, yeah,
Speaker 5: I completely agree, it's it's about the pressure that we
Speaker 5: feel to wear those things. I feel like that's the
Speaker 5: bigger issue. Even though that wasn't really what the question
Speaker 5: was asking.
Speaker 4: It would be hard though, because you're probably in like
Speaker 4: a group chat and you're seeing everyone sending you know, oh,
Speaker 4: I'm thinking about this dress where I'm thinking about that,
Speaker 4: and you would start having that oh I wasn't even
Speaker 4: thinking you're buying anything new like that. You know, the
Speaker 4: thought process that goes into your head. And that is
Speaker 4: so fair enough. But I really love that point. Sal
Speaker 4: and I swap clothes all the time, like and we're
Speaker 4: lucky because.
Speaker 2: We, you know, have very similar structure.
Speaker 4: Obviously, if your friend's five nine and you're five to one,
Speaker 4: it's gonna be a bit tricky. Sure, But if you
Speaker 4: do have a friend that you can swell close with,
Speaker 4: it's literally like having double the wardrobe.
Speaker 5: It's great, it's the best one hundred percent. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 5: should we get into the DM for this week?
Speaker 2: Yes? I am so excited. Okay, you guys are ready
Speaker 2: for a juicy juicy DM. Absolutely. Okay. So a listener
Speaker 2: read in and wrote, help. My girls and I are
Speaker 2: organizing a Hen's weekend for our best year, and there
Speaker 2: is a couple of things I'm having problems with. Firstly,
Speaker 2: on the cost per person of this hens. It's totaling
Speaker 2: three hundred and ninety dollars each for bus hire, a
Speaker 2: stripper in brackets. I personally am not a fan of alcohol, food, venue, hire, activities, etc.
Speaker 2: It's way out of my budget. But they have ignored
Speaker 2: this and made comments like, don't be a buzzkill, it's
Speaker 2: for our friend, it's just what it costs. And secondly,
Speaker 2: for costumes, games, et cetera. For the day, my friends
Speaker 2: want to buy a whole bunch of cheap, single use,
Speaker 2: throwaway stuff and it hurts my soul. To be honest,
Speaker 2: I would rather we spend time making stuff, more money
Speaker 2: on reusable stuff. I don't get it. They are happy
Speaker 2: to spend loads of money on a strip up but
Speaker 2: want to be cheap as with this, it totally doesn't
Speaker 2: sit right with my values. I don't want to be
Speaker 2: a down up, but I feel I need to put
Speaker 2: my foot down. What would you do? We were talking
Speaker 2: about this the other day.
Speaker 4: This is so tough, and I feel like, as you're
Speaker 4: going into your late twenties or thirties, this is absolutely
Speaker 4: a conundrum that a lot of.
Speaker 2: People are facing.
Speaker 4: I think as well, because we unfortunately had, you know,
Speaker 4: those years in lockdown and COVID. People are so excited
Speaker 4: now for weddings, for baby showers and those monumental experiences
Speaker 4: in their life that are such a big experience that
Speaker 4: they want it to be really big.
Speaker 2: They want it to be really amazing and memorable.
Speaker 4: However, Sal and I always say that, like, your wedding
Speaker 4: is so special and amazing and beautiful and stunning and
Speaker 4: sparkly and gorgeous for you, Like I think sometimes we
Speaker 4: don't understand that not everyone cares about your wedding. Is
Speaker 4: much as you do, yes, which sounds really harsh, but
Speaker 4: I think it's a really empathetic thing we need to
Speaker 4: remember when doing this.
Speaker 2: But it sounds like it's the friends as well.
Speaker 4: It sounds like the friends that are putting the pressure
Speaker 4: on into friends. Yeah, and that is a lot of
Speaker 4: money to be, you know, putting towards a singular event
Speaker 4: of a hen's night, especially like if it was aligned
Speaker 4: with your values, you'd probably be like, okay, sure, yeah,
Speaker 4: but it's not.
Speaker 2: So it's very tricky.
Speaker 4: And it's also just not not like, don't be calling
Speaker 4: a friend a buzzkill now it kiss me off?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, excuse me exactly any context.
Speaker 4: Talking about money with friends is already really difficult, even
Speaker 4: if it is for you know, something that perhaps isn't
Speaker 4: as much of a milestone as like a bridal shower
Speaker 4: or whatever. The event is a hen's weekend, even if
Speaker 4: it's just going out for dinner. So I totally understand
Speaker 4: where she's coming from. But I do think that she
Speaker 4: should put her for down because even though yes, it's
Speaker 4: a group effort, if she doesn't want to put her
Speaker 4: money towards those things, I just don't think that she
Speaker 4: should have to but you can always explain yourself and
Speaker 4: provide an alternative. So we always say that if this happens,
Speaker 4: you know you can say I'm so sorry, I'm saving
Speaker 4: up for XYZ, or this doesn't fit into my budget
Speaker 4: so I can't afford this. However, how about we do
Speaker 4: x yzed here and come like prepared with perhaps more
Speaker 4: affordable options so that you're not just being like, no, yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm not going to do it, because especially it seems
Speaker 4: like the friends are already going to be like, oh, well,
Speaker 4: you're being a buzzkiller.
Speaker 2: Why are you being a team player?
Speaker 4: Or this is for your friend and making something that's
Speaker 4: going to be a really special weekend for your friend.
Speaker 4: I think if you come prepared with some more affordable
Speaker 4: options or alternatives, then it isn't like you just be like, well,
Speaker 4: I don't want to be involved in putting your hands up.
Speaker 2: It's a little bit.
Speaker 4: More proactive and shows that you still care about your
Speaker 4: friend having a good time, and also isn't like putting
Speaker 4: all of the responsibility on the other friends to come
Speaker 4: up with a different option. I want to know the
Speaker 4: boundary line lies, because like if you're a bridesmaid, is
Speaker 4: that like expected of you because I've never been a
Speaker 4: bridesmaid before either, so but then it because Hans as well.
Speaker 4: It's like multiple people are invited. It's like hand just
Speaker 4: like yeah, it's like sometimes it's more than just the
Speaker 4: bridal party, right that, Like are you able to just
Speaker 4: be like.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I can't afford this at the.
Speaker 4: Moment or my you know, monetary values lie elsewhere at
Speaker 4: the moment, see you at the wedding.
Speaker 2: Or is that a bit rogue?
Speaker 5: I think you can dip out for sure. But I
Speaker 5: think the hard thing here is there's also the ethical
Speaker 5: element that they've put in their their message to us,
Speaker 5: which is they don't want to necessarily contribute to the
Speaker 5: stripart because it's not something that's morally aligned to them,
Speaker 5: which is fine, but then they would be happy to
Speaker 5: more money on reusable cutlery and decorations and things like
Speaker 5: that rather than disposable So I think that also might
Speaker 5: be a bit of a confusing message to try to
Speaker 5: convey to somebody, because if you, I think it's one
Speaker 5: thing to say, hey, guys, not in the budget right now,
Speaker 5: like I'll just meet you guys at the club, and
Speaker 5: you know, I'll buy my drinks and i'll still be there,
Speaker 5: but that's you know, an affordable way for me to
Speaker 5: do it versus I guess the moral dilemma here is, well,
Speaker 5: I don't want to pay for things that don't align
Speaker 5: to my values, but I do want to pay for
Speaker 5: things that do. And I feel like that's really hard
Speaker 5: to manage in a group setting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, Yeah, I completely agree. I'm also thinking, like,
Speaker 2: my god, she's spending like three hundred and nine dollars
Speaker 2: on the Hens, and then you've also got to like
Speaker 2: pay for a wedding gift. I assume if you're like
Speaker 2: I'm assuming, if you're being in varge to the Hens,
Speaker 2: you're close enough to the person to have to spend
Speaker 2: like a hextic amount of money and then, like exactly
Speaker 2: as our message from before, our money dilemma, probably a
Speaker 2: new outfit of some kind. Like I just feel like
Speaker 2: this is really adding up costume she said, costumes exactly exactly.
Speaker 4: Where even is it an uber charged? Do you have
Speaker 4: to drive somewhere? I get accommodation? Do you have to
Speaker 4: get flights?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: Yeah, all of this adds up exactly, And I know
Speaker 2: this is like extremely unhelpful for the person riding in,
Speaker 2: but I think that the problem.
Speaker 7: She's like, thanks, guys, She's like, so I feel great.
Speaker 2: So good. None of that was useful, and I'm really
Speaker 2: sorry for to our listener, but I think that they've
Speaker 2: been issue really is just like that people expect so much,
Speaker 2: like if I'm not choosing to get married, if I'm
Speaker 2: not getting married, if I'm nowhere near getting married, and
Speaker 2: one of my good friends is I kind of get anxious.
Speaker 2: I don't want to feel anxious. I want to feel excited,
Speaker 2: but I'm like, good, how much is this going to
Speaker 2: cost to me? And that's a really bad way to be.
Speaker 2: But unfortunately we've kind of found ourselves in this place
Speaker 2: where like, yeah, you can have to spend at least, like,
Speaker 2: you know, eighty bucks ahead for a banquet or something
Speaker 2: at a Hens, and then you've got your engagement party,
Speaker 2: and then you've got your wedding, and maybe you've got
Speaker 2: a kid's first birthday at some point in the future.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it just really really adds up. So I guess, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's extremely unhelpful. What I'm saying to the listener is
Speaker 2: change societal views. But I think putting your foot down
Speaker 2: exactly as everyone else is saying but just yeah, do
Speaker 2: it in a way where you're explaining me you're coming from.
Speaker 2: And if your friends it doesn't sound like what the
Speaker 2: like kind of the listener who's written in sounds like
Speaker 2: their friends aren't very supportive of their views and their
Speaker 2: values with each other don't even align, and it's like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, I would maybe just be not like
Speaker 2: obviously ending friendships, but just like considering who you're close
Speaker 2: to and who's like in your close circle. Because I
Speaker 2: know that my friends and hopefully the same with everyone
Speaker 2: else in this room, if I was to say, oh,
Speaker 2: my values don't align with this, they would absolutely respect
Speaker 2: that without even a second thought, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So yeah, maybe just like reevaluating those relationships but still
Speaker 2: keeping you know, put your foot down, absolutely hold true
Speaker 2: to that.
Speaker 4: Has some boundaries, I think, yeah, and good friendships will
Speaker 4: always respect boundaries.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, exactly. So let's see what the community had
Speaker 2: to say. So first we asked have you been to
Speaker 2: a Hen's party before? Eighty four percent of you said yes,
Speaker 2: and sixteen percent of you said no. And then we asked,
Speaker 2: if yes, how should it cost to attend the event?
Speaker 2: Thirty six percent of you said between fifty to one
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty. Another thirty six percent said one hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty to two hundred and fifty, fifteen percent of
Speaker 2: you said two hundred and fifty to three hundred and fifty,
Speaker 2: and thirteen percent of you said three hundred and fifty
Speaker 2: to five hundred fifty. I'm talking dollars. By the way,
Speaker 2: how a mention that that's a hectic amount of money.
Speaker 5: We also had a bunch of people DM and say
Speaker 5: they spent over one thousand dollars, which is god insane
Speaker 5: to me.
Speaker 4: I can say that if it's a weekend away, oh yeah,
Speaker 4: that easily can add up to over one thousand dollars.
Speaker 5: On a HENS, which, like I get is fun and
Speaker 5: especially important, but like, to me, that's so not worth it.
Speaker 2: You're doing that.
Speaker 4: If you're wanting your hends to be a destination thing,
Speaker 4: you need to allow your friends to say no, yeah,
Speaker 4: to be like this is so optional, this is just
Speaker 4: what I want to do.
Speaker 2: You do not have to do this and like really.
Speaker 4: And not be like, because we will get messages like
Speaker 4: this being like and she didn't come to my hens
Speaker 4: in Barcelona. Two thousand dollars flights and We're like, come.
Speaker 5: On, come on, there's like a point where if you
Speaker 5: want to be that bougie, I think there's a responsibility
Speaker 5: on you to like to cover some of the cost,
Speaker 5: Like Jery, Like, I've been to one Hens. It was Victoria's,
Speaker 5: and I don't think I paid for anything the whole time.
Speaker 2: I mean, way to do it.
Speaker 5: It was just sorted, which I know that not everyone's
Speaker 5: in the position to do that, but I think, like,
Speaker 5: if you're expecting people to do something really expensive, is
Speaker 5: there a responsibility on you to make that easier for them?
Speaker 2: I think so, yeah. And then we asked what would
Speaker 2: be more important to you in this situation. Fifty five
Speaker 2: percent of you said spending less and getting single use stuff,
Speaker 2: and forty five percent of you said spending more in
Speaker 2: getting reusable stuff. Interesting. Interesting. Then we asked, have you
Speaker 2: ever had a friend not respect your budget and values
Speaker 2: around spending? Seven percent of you said yes and thirty
Speaker 2: three percent of you said no. And then we said,
Speaker 2: tell us your two cents. So I'll just go through
Speaker 2: a few of these. First, we had someone right, Hen's
Speaker 2: parties are so overrated, just spend the money on the wedding,
Speaker 2: which I kind of like I don't know, I kind
Speaker 2: of agree with this in this like really I don't
Speaker 2: know old school way of thinking, Like did it come
Speaker 2: from the idea that like you're only you're free for
Speaker 2: it's like your last night of freedom?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'll take any excuse to drink with the girls.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But like it doesn't need to be a big thing,
Speaker 2: but I will. I would have a HEN to night.
Speaker 7: I'm not engaged, but my boyfriend's like slow down, Like
Speaker 7: i'd be like yee, like I want to do that,
Speaker 7: but I so I don't think it needs to be
Speaker 7: this thing of like we don't need a HEN totally.
Speaker 4: It's up to what you want to do, because that's
Speaker 4: a thing like whereas I don't particularly want to get married,
Speaker 4: and if I decided to change my mind, I wouldn't
Speaker 4: have a HENS. Yeah, and Alex and I are best
Speaker 4: friend and basically the same person. So even like two
Speaker 4: people who are so close have very different views on
Speaker 4: what they would want to do, Like, yeah, I think
Speaker 4: it shows like that division.
Speaker 2: You know, you either way and it just depends on
Speaker 2: what you like.
Speaker 5: But you're right, it doesn't have to be a big thing,
Speaker 5: Like you could just get the girls together at someone's house,
Speaker 5: have some drinks, make some cheese platters, dance around track drunks.
Speaker 5: I have it, you know what I mean. Like, it
Speaker 5: doesn't need to be crazy. I think it's like the
Speaker 5: social media world that we live in has really put
Speaker 5: the pressure on for people to have this crazy instagram
Speaker 5: worthy event.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I agree. No, it doesn't have to It can just
Speaker 2: be like a little celebration. Just go to the to
Speaker 2: the bar, whatever you want to do. Someone said, get
Speaker 2: new friends, which.
Speaker 6: I think in a we said that in a nice
Speaker 6: what you said.
Speaker 2: It's a real boiled down version of what I say.
Speaker 2: I like it. It's honest. I like it. You take it.
Speaker 2: Someone else said, life is expensive these days. I expect
Speaker 2: to pay five hundred dollars plus for Hen's weekends. That's standard.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, I can't. I couldn't know if I
Speaker 2: agree with that.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: None, it's a lot of money. It is a lot
Speaker 2: of money. Here's what are you getting out of it.
Speaker 2: You've got your leaving the wedding, not married or anyway. Absolutely,
Speaker 2: that's not always the best thing. But anyway, it's a
Speaker 2: good time. It's an experience. Paying for an experience. Someone
Speaker 2: else said, and this is probably more practical buy off
Speaker 2: marketplace or sell the decorations after even single use. That's
Speaker 2: very good advice, thank you. That's what my.
Speaker 4: Question is going to be is with the reusable stuff.
Speaker 4: What hens stuff would be reusable? That's actually a great ques,
Speaker 4: Like I'm.
Speaker 2: Not using dick straws every day of the week.
Speaker 4: You know you maybe things like if you were like
Speaker 4: decorating the table, like table settings and decorating that stuff,
Speaker 4: you could hire I would say, or yeah, buy your
Speaker 4: Facebook marketplace, or you could handmake a lot of those things,
Speaker 4: like there are so many really cool tiktoks and things
Speaker 4: on Pinterest that you can use for inspiration that are
Speaker 4: going to be so much more aesthetic and also meaningful
Speaker 4: and more affordable than going to a party shop and
Speaker 4: buying a bunch of single use plastic.
Speaker 2: If you want the dick straws, sure but surely we.
Speaker 4: Can meet in the middle here and have like a
Speaker 4: mix of handmade or borrowed or rented things and then
Speaker 4: a couple of single use you know, cups and plates
Speaker 4: and straws.
Speaker 5: Yea, anything that you buy that's not single use you
Speaker 5: can then sell on afterwards theoretically as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly exactly. Okay, I'll finish off with this one.
Speaker 2: So someone else wrote, sometimes we have to accept others
Speaker 2: won't aligned to our values and we have to find
Speaker 2: middle ground. Perfect. Yeah, I totally agree with that. I'm
Speaker 2: sure there's even though it sounds like maybe the friends
Speaker 2: aren't super willing to budge, there could be a middle
Speaker 2: ground there, you just have to find it. Yeah. Absolutely awesome. Perfect. Well,
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