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Speaker 1: Hello, my name's Santasha Nabananga Bamblet. I'm a proud yor

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Speaker 1: the Order Kerni Whoalbury and a waddery woman. And before

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Speaker 1: we get started on She's on the Money podcast, I

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Speaker 1: would like to acknowledge the traditional custodians of the land

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Speaker 1: of which this podcast is recorded on a wondery country,

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Speaker 1: acknowledging the elders, the ancestors and the next generation coming

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Speaker 1: through as this podcast is about connecting, empowering, knowledge sharing

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Speaker 1: and the storytelling of you to make a difference for

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Speaker 1: today and lasting impact for tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Let's get into it.

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Speaker 3: She's on the Money, She's on the Money.

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Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to She's on the Money, the podcasts

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Speaker 2: for millennials who want financial freedom. My name is beck

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Speaker 2: Side and Jess Ricky joins me today because it is Friday,

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Speaker 2: and today we celebrate you the incredible She's on the

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Speaker 2: Money community. Today we'll be sharing our favorite money wins.

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Speaker 2: We'll be helping to answer a juicy money dilemma, which

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Speaker 2: this week is all about keeping your clothes budget for

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Speaker 2: a big schedule of events by purchasing fast fashion and

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Speaker 2: we unpack something that you slim into our DMS about

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Speaker 2: this week. You asked how to get on the same

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Speaker 2: page with budget and throw away items when organizing a

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Speaker 2: hen's weekend with your besties. That sounds juicy?

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Speaker 4: It does, isn't that?

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Speaker 5: Jess?

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Speaker 2: How you going?

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Speaker 4: I'm good?

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Speaker 6: But today our team has doubled today and we have

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Speaker 6: not one, but two guests who are fellow podcasters, journalists

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Speaker 6: and of course twin Flames Sally McMullen and Alex Horrigan

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Speaker 6: aka the Two break Chicks. Welcome down, Welcome, I'm so excited.

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Speaker 6: We are so pomed to have you. I feel like

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Speaker 6: the vibes are good. The vibes are immaculate, as always,

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Speaker 6: overcomes some technical difficulties, and I think today's podcast is

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Speaker 6: going to be such a good one.

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Speaker 2: I think. So how's your week beans? Girls?

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Speaker 5: Been good? We were talking about it earlier and we

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Speaker 5: were saying, it was Sal's birthday yesterday and we went

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Speaker 5: and visited an animal shelter that I used to volunteer

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Speaker 2: Get It was a very advice. Yeah, celebrations.

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Speaker 5: We were just cuddling like kittens and bunnies. And however,

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Speaker 5: I was like this every day.

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Speaker 2: I was literally like, can we come do this once

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Speaker 2: a month? Honestly? And I was like sweet.

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Speaker 6: They would have been amazed too, to like get I

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Speaker 6: feel like you guys have such a big platform even

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Speaker 6: if a few people adopted pets off the back of that, Like,

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Speaker 6: what a big impact that you're having. What a special

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Speaker 6: way to spend your birthday. And it was so cute.

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Speaker 6: They put a video up on Instagram and TikTok. You

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Speaker 6: should go watch. It's freaking adorable.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, seriously, that's really cute. Did you guys get

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Speaker 2: up to anything else? What do we do? We had

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Speaker 2: coffee with whipped cream on it. That was yeah, and

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Speaker 2: we had bagels. Lovely, lovely. A good week overall, Jess,

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Speaker 2: how about you? Has a week been?

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Speaker 4: It's been good?

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Speaker 6: Nothing exciting to report really, where just plodding along.

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Speaker 4: It's getting cold. Not loving that.

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Speaker 2: I love that it's getting cold.

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Speaker 4: I'm so excited.

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Speaker 5: Like the air is like a bit crisper, and I'm like, oh, there's.

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Speaker 2: Nothing better than a crispy cold morning.

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Speaker 6: Okay, I'm so in the minority here, Like cold morning,

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Speaker 6: I don't want to get out of bed.

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Speaker 5: Though I agree, like next week when it's cold in

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Speaker 5: the morning, I'll be like, behave this. This is terrible,

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Speaker 5: change my mind every two seconds. Yeah, exactly. We're a

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Speaker 5: big ball of contradictions.

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Speaker 4: How about you back, how's your week been.

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Speaker 2: My week's been really, really nice, just been chillin's, been

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Speaker 2: cruised and just been living life. I honestly haven't done

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Speaker 2: too much. I just got back from Sydney. My girlfriend

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Speaker 2: met my parents for the first time. So let's get

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Speaker 2: real serious. You gotta get real serious. But yeah, other

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Speaker 6: All right, let me get into it, because I do, have,

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Speaker 6: of course, some goodies for you guys this week. Firstly,

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Speaker 6: I've got a money win from sus who said money win.

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Speaker 6: Found out that Shannon's cur insurance also do roadside assistance

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Speaker 6: and one payment can cover multiple cars on one policy

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Speaker 6: or price. This is my pro tip because my car

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Speaker 6: broke down recently and I don't have roadside assistance, but

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Speaker 4: Use it for multiple cars.

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Speaker 6: So if you live with somebody or if you have

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Speaker 6: is a dream.

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Speaker 2: That is amazing. Where was that again?

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Speaker 6: Here? Take a little note next, I've got a money

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Speaker 6: in from Melissa who said we got married recently and

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Speaker 6: I bought way too much alcohol for the reception. The

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Speaker 6: bottle shop which we purchased them from. Let us return

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Speaker 6: what we didn't open. Eighteen hundred bucks back in her pocket.

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Speaker 2: Or eighteen hundred bucks is a lot of alcohols are

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Speaker 6: That's so good that we were there, obviously. I've got

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Speaker 6: a money lost from Amber, who said I went to

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Speaker 6: cancel my Netflix subscription thinking I had a few more

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Speaker 6: days until the next billing cycle, only to find out

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Speaker 4: Hate that sucks.

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Speaker 5: Note them down, you're not canceled and then it just

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Speaker 5: doesn't renew the next month or doesn't cancel. When you cancel,

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Speaker 4: Sometimes they have like a you got to give us

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Speaker 4: twenty four hours notice or whatever. Yeah, I know that suck.

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Speaker 5: The thing that I like about like iTunes, for example,

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Speaker 5: go into that app and then like unsubscribed, but it'll

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Speaker 5: take you to the expiry date, so you don't have

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Speaker 5: to remember when it's gonna, you know, rebill you just

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Speaker 5: like this will expire on the twenty seventh of April

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Speaker 4: It's all in one place. It's easy.

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Speaker 2: Some places like will cancel the same day and refund you,

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Speaker 2: which is ideal. I don't think Netflix is going to

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Speaker 6: I can't imagine Netflix taking because I've got a money

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Speaker 6: in from Ayisha Hu said money win. I've been listing

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Speaker 6: our unused items on Facebook Marketplace and in the last

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Speaker 2: That's so good.

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Speaker 4: There's what's that statistic?

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Speaker 6: Everybody has like six hundred dollars worth of stuff in

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Speaker 2: Me the videos. It's giving Antiques Roadshow.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god.

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Speaker 6: I loved Antiques Roadshow when I was home sick as

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Speaker 4: Incredible.

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Speaker 6: And lastly, this week, I've got a money win from Claire,

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Speaker 6: Southeast Asia getaway and I just found out I'm going

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Speaker 6: to be sent to Thailand for work in a few weeks.

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Speaker 6: So we really only need to sort some extra accommodation

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Speaker 2: That's so good, love it.

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Speaker 4: That's cut very exciting.

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Speaker 6: Now we have been saying to anybody coming on the show,

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Speaker 6: we'd love for you to join in. So I was wondering,

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Speaker 6: a money lost to share with?

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Speaker 4: Everybody?

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Speaker 5: Got boths?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we've got bothes. Should I start with the win?

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Speaker 5: Okay, So this was very fresh, this was very recent.

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Speaker 2: There were tears. Oh no, what I'm gonna say.

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Speaker 4: I was like, I didn't know you were going to

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm so excited, which is like, and our show

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Speaker 5: lesson at the end of this. But sal and I

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Speaker 5: Not May, because I am an idiot, and I was like,

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Speaker 5: And like Hawaii accommodation is definitely towards like the higher

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Speaker 2: I'm just wasting all this money. And then so I

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Speaker 2: was like it's okay, I'm not mad at you don't

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Speaker 4: That's a good friend.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I know.

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Speaker 5: I was like, thank you so much, like you definitely

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Speaker 2: And then anyway, I.

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Speaker 5: Called the hotel and they were like, it's okay. You

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Speaker 5: got charged a no show fee, which is only the

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Speaker 5: one night rather than six nights, which was a lot better,

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Speaker 5: but it was still a couple one hundred dollars, which

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Speaker 5: I was like, I have learnt a veriable lesson that

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Speaker 5: I will be double checking not only dates, but the email,

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Speaker 5: like the contact email, because I would have picked up

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Speaker 5: know how you know Chrome and Google can like automatically

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Speaker 5: from years ago that I was like, Oh, it was

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Speaker 5: like an old world like Club sixty seven, like the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that one.

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Speaker 6: Yeah really, And you're embarrassed when you're on the phone

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Speaker 6: That's heaps of cash that you could put something good.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back, everybody. Let's take a listen to this week's

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Speaker 3: Hi, there, have you got a money dilemma you just

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Speaker 3: can't solve? The Sheese on the Money team is here

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Speaker 3: to help. Every week we tackle your dilemmas, both big

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Speaker 2: Hey, babes, love the pod.

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Speaker 7: I'm a single gal in my thirties on sixty K

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Speaker 2: What would you do interesting?

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Speaker 6: of this because I feel very strongly about it. It

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Speaker 6: really frustrates me that we really are canceling people and

445
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Speaker 6: coming after people for doing things that might be within

446
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Speaker 6: their means, like not everybody can afford to buy the

447
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Speaker 6: super ethical, you know, well produced garments, and I understand

448
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Speaker 6: that that's the gold standard and that's what we all

449
00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:53,240
Speaker 6: really want to do, but it's just not attainable for everybody.

450
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Speaker 6: And I don't think that it's fair to be putting

451
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Speaker 6: pressure on individuals when really the problem is the conglomerates

452
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Speaker 6: that are producing these things unethically.

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Speaker 2: One not.

454
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Speaker 5: Have said it better, honestly, because I think there's two

455
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Speaker 5: reasons surrounding this. And the first one that I wrote

456
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Speaker 5: down was the most common reason is that.

457
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Speaker 2: People can't afford to spend more.

458
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Speaker 5: We're in a cost of living crisis, and we're vilifying

459
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Speaker 5: people for shopping within their means and we're in their budget.

460
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Speaker 5: And I do think there is the social stigma, society

461
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Speaker 5: stigma that has been pushed especially onto women, that we

462
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Speaker 5: have to always look different and be wearing something different,

463
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Speaker 5: especially for big events. And then the second one is

464
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Speaker 5: that fast fashion does tend to have more inclusive and

465
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Speaker 5: extensive size ranges, you know, that is often also another

466
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Speaker 5: reason why people are shopping fast fashion. There was A

467
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Speaker 5: really interesting article written in Fashion Journal by an Australian

468
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Speaker 5: model called it Jennifer at emmerely I'm.

469
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Speaker 2: Assuming I'm so sorry if I butchered that last name.

470
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Speaker 5: Unsustainable fashion's aversion to size inclusivity, and in her articles

471
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Speaker 5: she wrote sustainable fashion generally excludes women over a size twelve,

472
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Speaker 5: especially in Australia. She continued to say, for anyone above

473
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Speaker 5: a size sixteen, it's impossible to cut out fast fashion

474
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Speaker 5: completely because what else do you wear? And given that

475
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Speaker 5: the average size of an Australian woman is a fourteen

476
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Speaker 5: to sixteen, this kind of highlights the issue that even

477
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Speaker 5: if people want to, you know, shop more sustainably and

478
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Speaker 5: with a slower fashion brand, there's not as many options.

479
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Speaker 2: I do think this is slowly.

480
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Speaker 5: Improving and we're seeing, you know, more brands come out

481
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Speaker 5: with more exclusive size ranges. But this is also a

482
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Speaker 5: thing to take into consideration, that people actually can't find

483
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Speaker 5: the things to wear.

484
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Speaker 2: That's a really good point. I had not even thought

485
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Speaker 2: about that, even like, you know, I was going to

486
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Speaker 2: suggest like op shopping and things like that, but even

487
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 2: even then it can be really yeah hard to You

488
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 2: might see one thing you like and it's like way

489
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Speaker 2: too big or way too small for you. So it's

490
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Speaker 2: like even then it's not really always the best option

491
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Speaker 2: or always the you know option that's going to Yeah,

492
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Speaker 2: I guess take you of the line, But yeah, I

493
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Speaker 2: think it really is. I think just kind of taking

494
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Speaker 2: away that pressure of having to wear something new for

495
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Speaker 2: like big events, yet absolutely re wear your clothes.

496
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Speaker 5: I really think as well, Like, think about how many

497
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Speaker 5: times you have looked at someone at a wedding and thought, oh,

498
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Speaker 5: I've seen them wear.

499
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Speaker 2: That just before.

500
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Speaker 5: I've ever noticed when someone's worn something more than once.

501
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Speaker 5: So I do think it is completely in our own head,

502
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Speaker 5: but also it's what has been pushed on to us,

503
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 5: so you know, we always have to be fashionable and

504
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 5: on the newest trend and all that kind of stuff.

505
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Speaker 5: But as well, I saw a creator on TikTok called

506
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Speaker 5: brook Upden speaking about shopping your own wardrobe and she

507
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 5: said this quote in it, and I thought that was

508
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Speaker 5: so powerful, and she was like, are you bored of

509
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,920
Speaker 5: your wardrobe or are you bored of how you style it? Yeah? Yeah,

510
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 5: I love that, Like if you can just tweak some

511
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,440
Speaker 5: things on how you're styling things in your wardrobe, or

512
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 5: pair it differently. You're going to feel really really differently

513
00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,439
Speaker 5: about one piece of clothing and it'll completely change your

514
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 5: perspective on it. That's what I was going to say,

515
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 5: Like the power of accessories really can change up an

516
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 5: outfit or even the way that you do your makeup

517
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:11,880
Speaker 5: or the way that you do your hair. If it's

518
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Speaker 5: for you know, a wedding or a big birthday or

519
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 5: something like, there are options for you to I suppose

520
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,639
Speaker 5: customize the one outfit, Like we've all seen that episode

521
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 5: of The Simpsons and March has that like one pink

522
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:25,360
Speaker 5: Chanel suit she like.

523
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Speaker 2: Tailor is it to be a billion different outfits? We

524
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,120
Speaker 2: don't have to go that extreme. But she's so sad too,

525
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Speaker 2: But I love March. We have the same birthday, by

526
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 2: the way, do you that is amazing? Yeah?

527
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Speaker 5: Flex, But yeah, I do really think that you can

528
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 5: accessorize within your own wardrobe or if you do, you know,

529
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Speaker 5: want to perhaps just splurge on maybe a different pair

530
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Speaker 5: of shoes or jewelry. You don't have to have a

531
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Speaker 5: completely new outfit for every single event, because even if

532
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 5: you're shopping fast fashion, but you're buying a new outfit

533
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 5: for every single event that you have coming up in

534
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 5: the air that's going to add up.

535
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so true.

536
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Speaker 6: There's other ways that you're in, like you have an

537
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 6: environmental impact in other ways as well. I think the

538
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Speaker 6: other thing i'd say is look into maybe swapping clothes

539
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 6: with your friends if you can. If everyone's buying stuff

540
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 6: for these events, it sounds like everyone's gonna have fancy stuff.

541
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 6: Maybe you can all do a trade and you can

542
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 6: wear each other's stuff, or you can rent things like,

543
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 6: there are other options as well. But I think, yeah,

544
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 6: I completely agree, it's it's about the pressure that we

545
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,159
Speaker 6: feel to wear those things. I feel like that's the

546
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 6: bigger issue. Even though that wasn't really what the question

547
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Speaker 6: was asking.

548
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Speaker 5: It would be hard though, because you're probably in like

549
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Speaker 5: a group chat and you're seeing everyone sending you know, oh,

550
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 5: I'm thinking about this dress where I'm thinking about that,

551
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,880
Speaker 5: and you would start having that oh I wasn't even

552
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 5: thinking you're buying anything new like that. You know, the

553
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,919
Speaker 5: thought process that goes into your head. And that is

554
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 5: so fair enough. But I really love that point. Sal

555
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 5: and I swap clothes all the time, like and we're

556
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Speaker 5: lucky because.

557
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Speaker 2: We, you know, have very similar structure.

558
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 5: Obviously, if your friend's five nine and you're five to one,

559
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 5: it's gonna be a bit tricky. Sure, But if you

560
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 5: do have a friend that you can swell close with,

561
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,400
Speaker 5: it's literally like having double the wardrobe.

562
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Speaker 6: It's great, it's the best one hundred percent. Yeah, all right,

563
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 6: should we get into the DM for this week?

564
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 4: Yes?

565
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 2: I am so excited. Okay, you guys are ready for

566
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 2: a juicy juicy DM.

567
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 4: Absolutely.

568
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Speaker 2: Okay. So a listener read in and wrote, help. My

569
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 2: girls and I are organizing a Hen's weekend for our

570
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Speaker 2: best year, and there is a couple of things I'm

571
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 2: having problems with. Firstly, on the cost per person of

572
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,120
Speaker 2: this hens. It's totaling three hundred and ninety dollars each

573
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,239
Speaker 2: for bus hire, a stripper in brackets. I personally am

574
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 2: not a fan of alcohol, food, venue, hire, activities, etc.

575
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,120
Speaker 2: It's way out of my budget. But they have ignored

576
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Speaker 2: this and made comments like, don't be a buzzkill, it's

577
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Speaker 2: for our friend, it's just what it costs. And secondly,

578
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 2: for costumes, games, et cetera. For the day, my friends

579
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 2: want to buy a whole bunch of cheap, single use,

580
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 2: throwaway stuff and it hurts my soul. To be honest,

581
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 2: I would rather we spend time making stuff, more money

582
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 2: on reusable stuff. I don't get it. They are happy

583
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 2: to spend loads of money on a strip up but

584
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 2: want to be cheap as with this, it totally doesn't

585
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 2: sit right with my values. I don't want to be

586
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 2: a down up, but I feel I need to put

587
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 2: my foot down. What would you do? We were talking

588
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 2: about this the other day.

589
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 5: This is so tough, and I feel like, as you're

590
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 5: going into your late twenties or thirties, this is absolutely

591
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 5: a conundrum that a lot of.

592
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 2: People are facing.

593
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,439
Speaker 5: I think as well, because we unfortunately had, you know,

594
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 5: those years in lockdown and COVID. People are so excited

595
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 5: now for weddings, for baby showers and those monumental experiences

596
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 5: in their life that are such a big experience that

597
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 5: they want it to be really big.

598
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 2: They want it to be really amazing and memorable.

599
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 5: However, Sal and I always say that, like, your wedding

600
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 5: is so special and amazing and beautiful and stunning and

601
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 5: sparkly and gorgeous for you, Like I think sometimes we

602
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 5: don't understand that not everyone cares about your wedding. Is

603
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 5: much as you do, yes, which sounds really harsh, but

604
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 5: I think it's a really empathetic thing we need to

605
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 5: remember when doing this.

606
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 2: But it sounds like it's the friends as well.

607
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 5: It sounds like the friends that are putting the pressure

608
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 5: on into friends. Yeah, and that is a lot of

609
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,679
Speaker 5: money to be, you know, putting towards a singular event

610
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,959
Speaker 5: of a hen's night, especially like if it was aligned

611
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 5: with your values, you'd probably be like, okay, sure, yeah,

612
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 5: but it's not.

613
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 2: So it's very tricky.

614
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 5: And it's also just not not like, don't be calling

615
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 5: a friend a buzzkill now it kiss me off?

616
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, excuse me exactly.

617
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 5: Any content talking about money with friends is already really difficult,

618
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,959
Speaker 5: even if it is for you know, something that perhaps

619
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 5: isn't as much of a milestone as like a bridal

620
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 5: shower or whatever. The event is a hen's weekend, even

621
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 5: if it's just going out for dinner. So I totally

622
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 5: understand where she's coming from. But I do think that

623
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 5: she should put her for down because even though yes,

624
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 5: it's a group effort, if she doesn't want to put

625
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 5: her money towards those things, I just don't think that

626
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 5: she should have to but you can always explain yourself

627
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 5: and provide an alternative. So we always say that if

628
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 5: this happens, you know you can say I'm so sorry,

629
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 5: I'm saving up for XYZ, or this doesn't fit into

630
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 5: my budget so I can't afford this. However, how about

631
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 5: we do x yzed here and come like prepared with

632
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 5: perhaps more affordable options so that you're not just being like, no, yeah,

633
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 5: I'm not going to do it, because especially it seems

634
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 5: like the friends are already going to be like, oh, well,

635
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 5: you're being a buzzkiller.

636
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 2: Why are you being a team player?

637
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 5: Or this is for your friend and making something that's

638
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 5: going to be a really special weekend for your friend.

639
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 5: I think if you come prepared with some more affordable

640
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 5: options or alternatives, then it isn't like you just be like, well,

641
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 5: I don't want to be involved in putting your hands up.

642
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 2: It's a little bit.

643
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 5: More proactive and shows that you still care about your

644
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 5: friend having a good time, and also isn't like putting

645
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 5: all of the responsibility on the other friends to come

646
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 5: up with a different option. I want to know the

647
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 5: boundary line lies, because like if you're a bridesmaid, is

648
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 5: that like expected of you because I've never been a

649
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 5: bridesmaid before either, so but then it because Hans as well.

650
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 5: It's like multiple people are invited. It's like hand just

651
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 5: like yeah, it's like sometimes it's more than just the

652
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 5: bridal party, right that, Like are you able to just

653
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 5: be like.

654
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 2: Sorry, I can't afford this at the.

655
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 5: Moment or my you know, monetary values lie elsewhere at

656
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 5: the moment, see you at the wedding.

657
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 2: Or is that a bit rogue?

658
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Speaker 6: I think you can dip out for sure. But I

659
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 6: think the hard thing here is there's also the ethical

660
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 6: element that they've put in their their message to us,

661
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Speaker 6: which is they don't want to necessarily contribute to the

662
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Speaker 6: stripart because it's not something that's morally aligned to them,

663
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Speaker 6: which is fine, but then they would be happy to

664
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Speaker 6: more money on reusable cutlery and decorations and things like

665
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 6: that rather than disposable So I think that also might

666
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 6: be a bit of a confusing message to try to

667
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 6: convey to somebody, because if you, I think it's one

668
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 6: thing to say, hey, guys, not in the budget right now,

669
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 6: like I'll just meet you guys at the club, and

670
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 6: you know, I'll buy my drinks and i'll still be there,

671
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 6: but that's you know, an affordable way for me to

672
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 6: do it versus I guess the moral dilemma here is, well,

673
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 6: I don't want to pay for things that don't align

674
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 6: to my values, but I do want to pay for

675
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 6: things that do. And I feel like that's really hard

676
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Speaker 6: to manage in a group setting.

677
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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, Yeah, I completely agree. I'm also thinking, like,

678
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 2: my god, she's spending like three hundred and nine dollars

679
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 2: on the Hens, and then you've also got to like

680
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 2: pay for a wedding gift. I assume if you're like

681
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 2: I'm assuming, if you're being in viarted to the Hens,

682
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 2: you're close enough to the person to have to spend

683
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 2: like a a hextic amount of money and then, like

684
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 2: exactly as our message from before, our money dilemma, probably

685
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 2: a new outfit of some kind. Like I just feel

686
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 2: like this is really adding up costume she said, costumes

687
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 2: exactly exactly.

688
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 5: Where even is it an uber charged? Do you have

689
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 5: to drive somewhere? I get accommodation? Do you have to

690
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 5: get flights?

691
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Speaker 2: Like? Yeah, all of this adds up exactly, and I

692
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 2: know this is like extremely unhelpful for the person riding

693
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 2: in but I think that the problem.

694
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Speaker 5: She's like, thanks, guys, She's like, so I feel great.

695
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 4: So good.

696
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 2: None of that was useful, and I'm really sorry for

697
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 2: to our listener, but I think that they've been issue

698
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 2: really is just like that people expect so much, like

699
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 2: if I'm not choosing to get married, if I'm not

700
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 2: getting married, if I'm nowhere near getting married, and one

701
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 2: of my good friends is I kind of get anxious.

702
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 2: I don't want to feel anxious. I want to feel excited,

703
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 2: but I'm like, good, how much is this going to

704
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 2: cost to me? And that's a really bad way to be.

705
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 2: But unfortunately we've kind of found ourselves in this place

706
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 2: where like, yeah, you can have to spend at least, like,

707
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 2: you know, eighty bucks ahead for a banquet or something

708
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 2: at a Hens, and then you've got your engagement party,

709
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 2: and then you've got your wedding, and maybe you've got

710
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 2: a kid's first birthday at some point in the future.

711
00:32:56,120 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 2: But yeah, it just really really adds up. So I guess, yeah,

712
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 2: that's extremely unhelpful. What I'm saying to the listener is

713
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 2: change societal views. But I think putting your foot down

714
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 2: exactly as everyone else is saying, but just yeah, do

715
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 2: it in a way where you're explaining me you're coming from.

716
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 2: And if your friends it doesn't sound like what the

717
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 2: like kind of the listener who's written in sounds like

718
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 2: their friends aren't very supportive of their views and their

719
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 2: values with each other don't even align, and it's like,

720
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Speaker 2: I don't know, I would maybe just be not like

721
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 2: obviously ending friendships, but just like considering who you're close

722
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 2: to and who's like in your close circle. Because I

723
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 2: know that my friends and hopefully the same with everyone

724
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 2: else in this room, if I was to say, oh,

725
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 2: my values is don't align with this, they would absolutely

726
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 2: respect that without even a second thought, you know what

727
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 2: I mean. So yeah, maybe just like reevaluating those relationships

728
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 2: but still keeping you know, put your foot down, absolutely

729
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 2: hold true to that.

730
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Speaker 5: Has some boundaries, I think, yeah, and good friendships will

731
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 5: always respect boundaries.

732
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, exactly. So let's see what the community had

733
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 2: to say. So first we asked have you been to

734
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 2: a Hen's party before? Eighty four percent of you said

735
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 2: yes and sixteen percent of you said no. And then

736
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 2: we asked, if yes, how should it cost to attend

737
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 2: the event? Thirty six percent of you said between fifty

738
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 2: to one hundred and fifty, another thirty six percent said

739
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty to two hundred and fifty, fifteen

740
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 2: percent of you said two hundred and fifty to three

741
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty, and thirteen percent of you said three

742
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty to five hundred fifty. I'm talking dollars.

743
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 2: By the way, how a mention that that's a hectic

744
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 2: amount of money.

745
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Speaker 6: We also had a bunch of people DM and say

746
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 6: they spent over one thousand dollars, which is god insane

747
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 6: to me.

748
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 5: I can say that if it's a weekend away, oh yeah,

749
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 5: that easily can add up to over one thousand dollars.

750
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Speaker 6: On a HENS, which, like I get is fun and

751
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 6: especially important, but like, to me, that's so not worth it.

752
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 2: You're doing that.

753
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 5: If you're wanting your hends to be a destination thing,

754
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,919
Speaker 5: you need to allow your friends to say no, yeah,

755
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 5: to be like, this is so optional, this is just

756
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 5: what I want to do.

757
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 2: You do not have to do this and like really.

758
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 5: And not be like, because we will get messages like

759
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,800
Speaker 5: this being like and she didn't come to my hens

760
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 5: in Barcelona two thousand dollars flights, and we're like, come.

761
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 6: On, come on, there's like a point where if you

762
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 6: want to be that bougie, I think there's a responsibility

763
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,760
Speaker 6: on you to like to cover some of the cost,

764
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 6: Like Jery, Like, I've been to one hens.

765
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 4: It was Victoria's, and I don't think I paid for

766
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 4: anything the whole time. I mean, way to do it.

767
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,280
Speaker 6: It was just sorted, which I know that not everyone's

768
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 6: in the position to do that, but I think, like,

769
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 6: if you're expecting people to do something really expensive, is

770
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 6: there a responsibility on you to make that easier for them?

771
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,720
Speaker 2: I think so, yeah. And then we asked what would

772
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 2: be more important to you in this situation. Fifty five

773
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 2: percent of you said spending less and getting single use stuff,

774
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 2: and forty five percent of you said spending more in

775
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 2: getting reusable stuff. Interesting. Interesting. Then we asked, have you

776
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 2: ever had a friend not respect your budget and values

777
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,280
Speaker 2: around spending? Seven percent of you said yes and thirty

778
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 2: three percent of you said no. And then we said,

779
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 2: tell us your two cents. So I'll just go through

780
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,280
Speaker 2: a few of these. First, we had someone right, Hen's

781
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 2: parties are so overrated, just spend the money on the wedding,

782
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 2: which I kind of like, I don't know, I kind

783
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:17,879
Speaker 2: of agree with this in this like really I don't

784
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 2: know old school way of thinking, Like did it come

785
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 2: from the idea that like you're only you're free for

786
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 2: it's like your last night of freedom.

787
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I'll take any excuse to drink with the girls. Yeah,

788
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 5: But like it doesn't need to be a big thing,

789
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 5: but I will.

790
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 2: I would have a HEN tonight.

791
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 5: I'm not engaged, but my boyfriend's like slow down, Like

792
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 5: i'd be like.

793
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 2: Yee, like I want to do that.

794
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 5: But I so I don't think it needs to be

795
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,720
Speaker 5: this thing of like we don't need a hen totally.

796
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 5: It's up to what you want to do, because that's

797
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 5: a thing like whereas I don't particularly want to get married,

798
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 5: and if I decided to change my mind, I wouldn't

799
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 5: have a hens. Yeah, and Alex and I are best

800
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 5: friend and basically the same person. So even like two

801
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 5: people who are so close have very different views on

802
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 5: what they would want to do, Like, yeah, I think

803
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 5: it shows like that division.

804
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 4: You know, you either way and it just depends on

805
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 4: what you like.

806
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 6: But you're right, it doesn't have to be a big thing,

807
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 6: like you could just get the girls together at someone's house,

808
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 6: have some drinks, make some cheese platters, dance around track drunks.

809
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 6: I have it, you know what I mean. Like, it

810
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 6: doesn't need to be crazy. I think it's like the

811
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,879
Speaker 6: social media world that we live in has really put

812
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 6: the pressure on for people to have this crazy instagram

813
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 6: worthy event.

814
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 5: Yeah.

815
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 2: I agree. No, it doesn't have to It can just

816
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 2: be like a little celebration. Just go to the to

817
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,919
Speaker 2: the bar, whatever you want to do. Someone said, get

818
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 2: new friends, which I think in a.

819
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 4: We said that in a nice.

820
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 2: What you said, it's a real boiled down version of

821
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 2: what I say. I like it. It's honest. I like it.

822
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 2: You take it. Someone else said life is expensive these days.

823
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 2: I expect to pay five hundred dollars plus for Hen's weekends.

824
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 2: That's standard. Oh my goodness, I can't. I couldn't know

825
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 2: if I agree with that.

826
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 5: Yeah.

827
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 2: None, it's a lot of money. It is a lot

828
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 2: of money. Here's what are you getting out of it.

829
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 2: You've got your leaving the wedding, not married or anyway. Absolutely,

830
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 2: that's not always the best thing. But anyway, it's a

831
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 2: good time. It's an experience. Paying for an experience. Someone

832
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 2: else said, and this is probably more practical buy off

833
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 2: marketplace or sell the decorations after even single use. That's

834
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 2: very good advice, thank you. That's what my.

835
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 5: Question is going to be is with the reusable stuff,

836
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 5: what hens stuff would be reusable? That's actually a great question,

837
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 5: Like I'm not using.

838
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:44,439
Speaker 2: Dick straws every day of the week.

839
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 5: You know, maybe things like if you were like decorating

840
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 5: the table, like table settings and decorating that stuff, you

841
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 5: could hire, I would say, or yeah, buy your Facebook marketplace,

842
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 5: or you could handmake a lot of those things, like

843
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 5: there are so many really cool tiktoks and things on

844
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 5: Pinterest that you can use for inspiration that are going

845
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,399
Speaker 5: to be so much more aesthetic and also meaningful and

846
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 5: more affordable than going to a party shop and buying

847
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 5: a bunch of single use plastic.

848
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 2: If you want the dick straws, sure but surely we.

849
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 5: Can meet in the middle here and have like a

850
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 5: mix of handmade or borrowed or rented things and then

851
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 5: a couple of single use you know, cups and plates

852
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 5: and straws.

853
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 2: Yea.

854
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 6: Anything that you buy that's not single use you can

855
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 6: then sell on afterwards. Theoretically, as well.

856
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, exactly. Okay, I'll finish off with this one.

857
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 2: So someone else wrote, sometimes we have to accept others

858
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 2: won't aligned to our values and we have to find

859
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 2: middle ground. Perfect. Yeah, I totally agree with that. I'm

860
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,280
Speaker 2: sure there's even though it sounds like maybe the friends

861
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 2: aren't super willing to budge, there could be a middle

862
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 2: ground there, you just have to find it.

863
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 6: Yeah.

864
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 2: Absolutely awesome. Perfect. Well, thank you guys, so so so

865
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 2: much for joining us today. You've been so great, so funny.

866
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 2: I love the dynamic beween us all. Please come back where.

867
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868
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869
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870
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871
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