1 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:02,720 Speaker 1: Get a. 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 2: I'm Lola Berry, nutritionist, author, actor, TV presenter and professional oversharer. 3 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 2: This podcast is all about celebrating failure because I believe 4 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 2: it's a chance for us to learn, grow and face 5 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 2: our blind spots. Each week, I'll interview a different guest 6 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 2: about their highs as well as their lows, all in 7 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 2: a bid to inspire us. 8 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: To fearlessly fail. 9 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 2: Hello there, and welcome to the Potteroony. Today we have 10 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 2: a creative app for you. You know I'm a psucker 11 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 2: for creative. I love interviewing actors, directors, writers, and today 12 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 2: we have an actor, writer and producer Maria Angelico. I 13 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 2: feel like is such like in the energy of doing 14 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 2: so many projects in Australia. I feel like I've seen 15 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 2: her on so many things, Strife, Sisters, the newsreader, Apple, Cider, Vinegar, 16 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 2: the clearing non stop. This actor is and well, she's 17 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 2: a triple threat actor, writer, producer and fun fact, we 18 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 2: both did the same course, the same acting training in 19 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,639 Speaker 2: Melbourne at sixteenth Streets. That was really nice to figure 20 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 2: out out where our paths crossed. We have been talking 21 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 2: about doing this chat for a couple of years now, 22 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 2: so I feel flip and wrapped that it all timed 23 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 2: in for you, the listener. If you have a little 24 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 2: spark of creativity, which I believe we all do, then 25 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 2: I think this episode is for you. Maria is open, 26 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 2: kind and generous and I really loved sitting down and 27 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 2: chatting with her. And Maria, thank you for bringing me coffee. 28 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 2: She was my first of five podcasts back to back 29 00:01:55,200 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 2: in moubs and came into the pod room a long 30 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 2: black and I was so wrapped. So thank you, thank you, 31 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,559 Speaker 2: thank you. I cannot wait to see what is next 32 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 2: for you. 33 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: And hit me. 34 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 2: Up when you're in America, my friend, because I can't 35 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 2: wait to see you again. All right, listeners, enjoy this 36 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 2: app Marie is wonderful. You're in for a treat. Maria Angelico, 37 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 2: Welcome to the pod, my friend. 38 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: Thanks mate, Hi hello. 39 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 2: Actor, writer, producer. Have you directed to I feel like 40 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 2: I've seen that. 41 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 3: I have a short film and I've done attachments. Yeah, 42 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 3: thank yeah, and I co directed. I did a one 43 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 3: moment show at the Mold House. 44 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 2: Yes, that's when we first started chit chatting about this pod. Yes, 45 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 2: probably two years ago. 46 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, to promote that it's been a 47 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 3: gone moment mate, I. 48 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 2: Know, well I got there in the end, didn't I 49 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:54,119 Speaker 2: just slowly, slowly, we got there. You have been such 50 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 2: a dream to research and to soak up and to 51 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 2: watch strife sisters. The new reader, I have to ask 52 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 2: straight out of the gate filming an eighties wedding? Was 53 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 2: that so much fun with your epic hare? 54 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: Yeah? 55 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 3: It was like the era that my hair is designful 56 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 3: but actually have a funny story about it. So the 57 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 3: act of the plays Brian the guy, I Mary, the 58 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 3: camera man who's actually my best friend in real life. 59 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 3: And when we were setting up to shoot it, the 60 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 3: producers and the show runner Michael Lucas, who's a made 61 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 3: of ours and the director of My Freeman, they were like, 62 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 3: we're trying to cast all the extras for the wedding 63 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 3: and for you know, your family and guests, and we 64 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 3: need people that look like you. And they're like, we 65 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 3: have this idea. It might be the worst idea ever, 66 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 3: but how would you feel if. 67 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: We got all your friends and family to be extra? 68 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 3: Because I knew we were friends and so we invited 69 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 3: all our friends and family. We were like warning, like 70 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 3: it might actually be a really boring time. It might 71 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 3: be you know, it's two days of extra work. And yeah, 72 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 3: so my sister, who like hates being on camera, was 73 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 3: my like maid of on my Yeah, like all our 74 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 3: friends recent my friends were like extras. His siblings were 75 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 3: his bridal party, his parents were there, so it kind 76 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 3: of felt like a weird real wedding. 77 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 2: It was so much fun watching all the costume and 78 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 2: hair and makeup on everyone like obviously you took the cake. 79 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, looked like a cake, and leave like the damot, 80 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 4: like all the But it was like I loved seeing 81 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 4: like even the like the way that it shot and 82 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 4: like everyone speaking like you know when you're at an aide. 83 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: Not that I know. 84 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 2: I was born in eighty five, and so I can 85 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,799 Speaker 2: only imagine from watching my mom and dad's like wedding 86 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 2: tapes and stuff like that. I'm like, this is exactly 87 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 2: how everyone would have acted. 88 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,239 Speaker 1: Well, they made they made for the promo the ABC. 89 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 3: They got this camera operator using an original old camera. 90 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 3: It's online, you can see it on Instagram. And he 91 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 3: made like a home video. 92 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 1: That's what it looks like a real wedding. That's why 93 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: it's so real. 94 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 3: And like people like we're confused. They were like where 95 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 3: are they now? And I'm like, it was early last year. 96 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 3: It wasn't It wasn't like thirty years ago. 97 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: Good, Yeah, it was great. 98 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 2: Okay, So I know we're jumping straight, but I did 99 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 2: to my story. I had to tell it no, no, no, 100 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 2: I love it. I love it. I had to rump 101 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 2: straight in. But we I this is a bit selfish me, 102 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 2: but I do love finding where our paths crossed, just 103 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 2: because shared experiences. So two, I figured out two places 104 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 2: of our parts. 105 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 1: Okay, let's see. 106 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 2: So I know you know one. I know you know 107 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 2: one of them, which is sixteenth Street. We boasted the 108 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 2: part time course. 109 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 1: Yeah. 110 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 2: Hugh Stewart, ah photographer. Yeah, he shot me and he 111 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 2: shot you right. 112 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 3: He takes amazing, amazing I think the best headshots, Like 113 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 3: I feel like the ones he took of me looked 114 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 3: the most like me. 115 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 1: Some shots and I'm like, who's that. 116 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 2: Well, he's very passionate about attainable. So for the listener, 117 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 2: I've interviewed him. So he's incredible. He Melbourne, Sydney Byron Bay. 118 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 2: He'll just go around and it's two hundred and fifty 119 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 2: bucks a pop. You've got these great portrait and he gives. 120 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 3: You everything like like an hour later and it's so chill, 121 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 3: Like I've done so many headshots over the years, and 122 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 3: that felt like just a fun chat. 123 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: It was the best. I have another length though. 124 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I used to practice yoga at Power Living No Melbourne, No, 125 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 3: you taught. 126 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 1: I did a few classes that you taught. I loved teaching. 127 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 1: That was one of my favorites. 128 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 3: It it felt like such like a I don't know 129 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,239 Speaker 3: that time whenever it was, it feels like one hundred 130 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 3: years ago. 131 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: It was such a community. 132 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 3: It was like and I loved it, like I would 133 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 3: go every morning, like I was obsessed. But you taught 134 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 3: there sometimes and I did what was it called like 135 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 3: the forty day Challenge. 136 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I got to do a challenge. 137 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:54,239 Speaker 3: Yeah I think he did that or I don't know anyway, 138 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 3: I just remember. 139 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 2: I did nutrition stuff for all this challenges as well. 140 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 3: Yeah. I was like, oh, there's this like nutrition person 141 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 3: there called Lola, And I remember, yeah, that's wild. 142 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 2: That's such a good that is such a good location. 143 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 2: That one. 144 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: I loved it there still it was. 145 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 2: It got changed names, but yeah, I don't know if 146 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 2: it is now, but it felt like bullany is that 147 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 2: troof like you're so gorgeous. But I'm so glad you 148 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 2: brought this up because how important is an actor is 149 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 2: self care? And I imagine something like yoga connecting movement 150 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 2: to breath. Yeah, and then breath is like such a 151 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 2: beautiful thing to be aware of as an actor. 152 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: Right, I'm important. Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, it's great. 153 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 3: I think yoga's like been like a really big part 154 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 3: of my I mean I still practice now, not as 155 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 3: religiously as I used to, but I just in terms 156 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 3: of like getting in touch with my body and feeling 157 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 3: into my body and like the technical side of acting training, 158 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 3: I think yoga really helped. 159 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, big time totally. 160 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 2: I think as well, also when you get nervous or stressed, 161 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 2: or like there's a big callback or something and you're 162 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 2: like in your head although you're a libern I feel 163 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:02,679 Speaker 2: like you've got quite good at everything's fine. 164 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: No, I mean, it's good just for any tension in 165 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: your body. 166 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 3: I found it like, in particular, I was someone that 167 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 3: I think a long time ago, I found it not 168 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 3: that I my emotions were there, but I felt like 169 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 3: often I found it difficult to be in my body, 170 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 3: Like I found like I was in my head thinking 171 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 3: about emotions rather than feeling where they were in my body, 172 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 3: and doing any kind of exercise is really helpful for 173 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 3: connecting it all. 174 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: But I feel like. 175 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 3: Yoga in particular, because you're breathing and you're it's slow, 176 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 3: so you can kind of you're not it's easier to 177 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 3: kind of really connect. I don't know, something clicked with 178 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 3: yoga with my emotional body, physical body totally. 179 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I agree, I always. I taught yoga at 180 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 2: sixteenth Street when I was a student there. They coming, 181 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 2: everyone coming out yoga when I was there. Well, no, 182 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 2: they figured out there was a teacher in the room, 183 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 2: Like you all get here an hour early. 184 00:08:57,880 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: That would have been sick. I would have loved. So 185 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: it was so much fun. 186 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 2: So okay, I loved. So there's so many things I've 187 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 2: loved watching you in and also seeing I feel like, 188 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 2: especially watching you over the last couple of years, I 189 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,959 Speaker 2: feel like there's real momentum there, Like I feel like, oh, 190 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 2: you're enough thing. Oh like it feels like you're in 191 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 2: this like like riding the wave right now, which is 192 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 2: really exciting. So like I have to ask. I know 193 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 2: it's like such a numpty question, but like, what are 194 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 2: some of those highlights other than the wedding. 195 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: I've got. 196 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 3: I did a movie called Birthright oh not with Travis Jeff. 197 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's loud. Yeah. 198 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 3: So I feel really excited about that. Zoe Pepper who 199 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 3: wrote it and directed it. It's a first feature. Yeah, 200 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 3: and it's just one of the best scripts I've read 201 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 3: and just so wild and fun, and so I'm really 202 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 3: excited about that coming out. 203 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 2: Can you say what it's about. 204 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's. 205 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 3: I mean, it's kind of a it's a really dark 206 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:08,599 Speaker 3: comedy exploring the housing crisis. Yeah, and here in Australia. 207 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 3: We shot it in w WA. Yeah, and yeah, it's 208 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 3: it's kind of a little bit millennials versus boomers. That's 209 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 3: all allSome. But yeah, it's cool, it's great. It's really clever. 210 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: And I saw. 211 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 2: I've read on your bio that that's with Travis Jeff. 212 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: He's such a lot. 213 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 2: We've had him on the pod twice now way yeah, my. 214 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 1: God, yeah, little He's heaven. 215 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 3: I was really nervous because the film there's only four 216 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:37,719 Speaker 3: people in the film. Really, there's there's a couple of 217 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 3: people that pop in and out, but the cast essentially 218 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 3: is four of us in. 219 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: One location for the whole film. 220 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 3: So it was I think seven weeks shooting, you know, 221 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 3: away from home, and I always get I love shooting away, 222 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 3: so it was like a little. 223 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: Holidays and I realize I have to actually work. 224 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 3: But I was really nervous because I was like, what 225 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 3: if we don't click or what if we don't get 226 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 3: along language with the all day every day, like pretty 227 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 3: much all of my scenes were with Travis, and it 228 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 3: was such a gift that he's like such a lovely human, 229 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 3: like he became my He's my husband in the film, 230 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 3: but he became my husband. Like he was so lovely, 231 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 3: like was staying the same hotality, be like texting me 232 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 3: like I'm going to get groceries, do you need anything? 233 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: Like? 234 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 3: He was just so caring And it was such a 235 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 3: hard shoot that it made it so great. 236 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 1: It was awesome all. 237 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 2: Hart all and also like Zero egoed him off the 238 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 2: back of King Kong. Yeah yeah, apes, Yeah, Planet of 239 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 2: the Apes, and I was like, how are you going? 240 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 2: And I'm like, I saw you on the red carpet 241 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 2: at the Chinese City in Hollywood, like and he's like, yeah, 242 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 2: good mate, Like literally, so on a fazer, very country 243 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 2: country boy vibes yeah, I'd never leave Australia. 244 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, okay, I guess. 245 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 2: And like, just on the back of that, like you 246 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 2: have worked with so many great skate box Dr Courtney, 247 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 2: like Whole Mac you were played Dry Cortney's. Yeah, with bambinos, 248 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 2: three three kids, one a newborn, a newborn, which was 249 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 2: actually a set of twins. 250 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, because they rotate them because if one vomits or cries, 251 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 3: you kind of swatch that. But then I think we 252 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 3: ended up having two sets of twins because the first 253 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 3: set were. 254 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,439 Speaker 1: Really I just thought that there were so many kids 255 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 1: that whole shit. I was just holding children babies. But 256 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 1: that were great, those kids. 257 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 2: But yeah, working with like all these like I don't know, 258 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 2: if I was everyone set with a cake box, I'd 259 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 2: be like, holy yeah, she's giving me timbers. 260 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, and she's so like I think I actually said 261 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 3: to her at one point and it didn't I said, 262 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 3: I just want to relate your friend, because I just 263 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:48,079 Speaker 3: she was so cool. 264 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 1: I don't think I don't know how. 265 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,719 Speaker 2: She's coming on the pot. I'll check with it for you. 266 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: I will check with you, which is so great. 267 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:03,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, So if you like, how do and this 268 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 2: is not. I feel like I'm asking a question that 269 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 2: maybe I get, Like, do you get imposter syndrome at all? 270 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 2: Like you're standing opposite like Asha Katie or someone you're 271 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 2: just like, but I feel like you've been in the 272 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 2: game so long that you're like, no, I'm here to 273 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 2: do a. 274 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 1: Job, and here I am. Nah, I don't like, I 275 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,319 Speaker 1: don't I get it more. 276 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 3: If I get imposta syndrome at all, it's with writing 277 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 3: stuff because I didn't study writing. I love writing and 278 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 3: I do writing, but often I'm yeah, I'm like, oh, 279 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 3: I don't know what I'm I don't know what I'm doing. 280 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: I'm just winking it. 281 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 3: And particularly if I'm working with someone that's giving me 282 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 3: notes or. 283 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: Collaborating or their script editing. 284 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 3: I yeah, it's pretty easy for me to just be like, 285 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 3: I have no idea what I'm doing. So but with acting, 286 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 3: I get starstruck sometimes a little bit. But but yeah, no, 287 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 3: I think I've been doing it long enough. 288 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know. Actually, you. 289 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 3: Know, maybe maybe my next Jove will absolutely freak out. 290 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 2: I'll get a message from yeah, got star truck definitely. 291 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,599 Speaker 1: Like I'm sure I will maybe if I Yeah, I 292 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 1: don't know yeh. 293 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 2: Jason Bateman famously says he goes when he gets on set, 294 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 2: he'll like meet his castmates and he'll be like, oh, 295 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 2: I better go watch those movies or that, like because 296 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 2: you meet them they're lovely. Yeah, And he goes and 297 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 2: then you come back to work and it's saying it's 298 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 2: like it's petrifying because you're you become in all of 299 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 2: these people and you're like, should I meant to be 300 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 2: playing beside you? And I'm like I feel like that'd 301 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 2: be a really real thing as an actor. 302 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 3: I mean, or you meet them, I get on set 303 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 3: and like, oh you have rehearsal or whatever, and I'm like, hey, 304 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 3: I know you. And then I'm like, oh no, I 305 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 3: just watched them inside. 306 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like a real idiot. Yeah. People are 307 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: people are really talented. People are really great and impressive, 308 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: and you. 309 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 3: Know, you kind of have to ignore that and just 310 00:14:57,680 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 3: focus on what's in front of you a lot of 311 00:14:59,560 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 3: the time. 312 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 313 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 2: I have to ask because I've seen a couple of 314 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 2: interviews you've done from Los Angeles and I that's where 315 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 2: I'm based. 316 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: What like when you've. 317 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 2: Gone over there, Like, how's it been? Because I feel 318 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 2: like the industry feels quite different in some ways. But that's, 319 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 2: to be completely honest with you, is that's because I'm 320 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 2: seen as a pod host and nutritionist here. So I've 321 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 2: had pretty much no luck acting in Australia. But as 322 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 2: soon as I get to America and from my agent's like, 323 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 2: oh and you're a nutritionist, I'm like yeah, they're like 324 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 2: amazing and you're. 325 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh amazing, Like yeah, it's so encouraging. It's very different. 326 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 3: The tall poppy does not exist, and they're just like 327 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 3: how exciting. They're so encouraging and like you can kind 328 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 3: of be anything, which I love. 329 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: I love that. Yeah, American culture. 330 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I do feel like because you're in the 331 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 2: melting pot. It's just like I got cast in a 332 00:15:56,440 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 2: pilot from being in a yoga like literally working but working, 333 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 2: thank you, but working at a yoga studio, not acting, 334 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 2: like literally like just being like, hey, how you going, 335 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 2: let's do some down dog. 336 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. 337 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 3: People want like I think there's like a bit of 338 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 3: an American cultural thing of like they want to discover you. 339 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 3: They want to be like, you know, the one that 340 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 3: film all love. Yeah, but there's this I don't know, 341 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 3: it's it's kind of this. I think that's what's so 342 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 3: thrilling about being in the States because you're like anything 343 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 3: could happen and it feels so abundant with like opportunity, 344 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 3: and I think it can still exist here in Australia, 345 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 3: but it's we're a bit more looking sidbeds. 346 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 2: I think totually the thing that I find with actors 347 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 2: in Australia versus because I have trained my guts out. 348 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 2: I trained here, but I train a lot in LA 349 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 2: and no one gate keeps in LA. No, Like if 350 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 2: you were over and I did an audition for something 351 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 2: and I'm like, this actually doesn't suit me. This suits Maria. 352 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 2: Like you just you literally would just connect and away 353 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 2: you go. 354 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, And and. 355 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 2: Like I don't have a mate from London over there. 356 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 2: He's like I need to be in acting class NIME, 357 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 2: and I just straight away just was like, I know exactly, 358 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 2: you need to be here goo and just like introduce them. 359 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 2: The gatekeeping thing is like the opportunity is, or the 360 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 2: the mentality is, there's enough for every. 361 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 3: There's less a fa scarcity mindset for sure, but I 362 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 3: think that because there is more stuff totally. But at 363 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 3: the same time, I just don't think there's any excuse. 364 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 3: I think even if there's, I don't know. I'm really 365 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 3: all for like trusting that there's more to come and 366 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 3: the sharing and connecting and being like to your friend, 367 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I just did this auditionally. You should 368 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 3: audition for it too. Is such a nice way to 369 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,439 Speaker 3: be because you're putting trust in yourself that it's not 370 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 3: like the only chance you're going to get. It's like, oh, 371 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 3: there's going to be so many more opportunities, so I 372 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 3: might as well. 373 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,479 Speaker 1: If I don't get it, I prefer my friend got it. 374 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 2: You know. 375 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 3: I feel like it's like I don't know, it's it's 376 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 3: such a nice thing and I wish Australia was more 377 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 3: like that. I'd understand why it isn't because it's like 378 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 3: a small industry. 379 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, it'd be so much nice. Ang fun, It's so fun. 380 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 2: So I have to ask, do you have plans to 381 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 2: go back to America? Just selfish and do you have 382 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 2: plans to go back to America like. 383 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: You want to hang out with Yes? Please another coffee day? 384 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:12,479 Speaker 1: It would be nice. 385 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I do this year I can't talk fully on 386 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 3: about but yeah, I do amazing a few months I'm 387 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 3: heading over. 388 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 2: Well, you've got a mate waiting for you. 389 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: I'm excited. I haven't been in a while. 390 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 2: So she looks she got hit by the fires, but 391 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 2: she's coming. 392 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: She's coming good. 393 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 2: It's an amazing Americans whole. And this is the wrong metaphor 394 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 2: to give right now, but the phoenix from the ashes 395 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 2: thing is very much the American we will rebuild, you know. 396 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 2: Like so same with the industry, and like that caused 397 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 2: so much of a call for the entertainment industry to 398 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 2: like support local talent. Yeah. So okay, So you've got 399 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 2: a friend waiting for you in LA and I want 400 00:18:55,760 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 2: to talk to you about training because I think in 401 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 2: the school, the training system in Australia to America is 402 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 2: quite different, and in that we do long courses and 403 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 2: we kind of lock in for a few years and 404 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 2: really kind of like make sure we've got such a 405 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 2: vast understanding of different techniques and styles and methods. 406 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like more of a British format. 407 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 2: It feels like it's. 408 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: Very which is cool. 409 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 3: I like the focus on like really getting rid of 410 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 3: all distraction and just honing in. I always found it 411 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:33,360 Speaker 3: something that I was like kind of resistant to though, 412 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 3: because I started getting acting work when I was in 413 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,679 Speaker 3: my team, and so to take three years out and 414 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,239 Speaker 3: just like go kind of I mean not that I 415 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 3: was like thriving, but I was like, I really liked 416 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 3: getting my you know, guest is on City Homicide. 417 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I loved that. So I didn't want to 418 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 1: stop doing that. Yeah. 419 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 3: So I'd like the American format that you can kind 420 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 3: of just do one class a week or dropping classes. 421 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 1: Or yeah, master classes stuff. I think it's cool. 422 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 3: I think that's why sixteenth Street appealed to me more 423 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 3: because it felt like that was supportive of actors students 424 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 3: getting work whilst studying. It didn't seem like something but 425 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 3: you just right, yeah, yeah, do. 426 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,679 Speaker 2: You have any highlights from I mean I loved training 427 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 2: with Ian Sinclair. 428 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 3: I didn't train with him. I trained before he was 429 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 3: attached to the school. Yeah, so you would have been 430 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 3: Kim Kim. I mean, there was a bunch of teachers 431 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 3: that are no longer there, Penelope Trader who recently passed. 432 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 1: Actually, she was incredible, incredible. 433 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 3: She did all these beautiful yat like energetic stuff. 434 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 1: It was so amazing. She was incredible. Yeah. 435 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 3: Look, I had a funny time, Like I loved studying there, 436 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 3: but I also like I struggled, Like I was kind 437 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 3: of a I don't know, I was a brat. I was. 438 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 3: I was very young, and like I was kind of 439 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 3: just a little party monster, and I was like, I 440 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 3: think my ego is really I was like, I'm already 441 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 3: working in film and TV and I don't need to 442 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 3: be here, like I think. But then I also really 443 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 3: cared about it, like I took it very seriously. But 444 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 3: I think there was an element of Yeah, either some 445 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:19,360 Speaker 3: stuff I felt like I was like I already know this, 446 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 3: or I struggled and some stuff really worked for me. 447 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 3: I'm so glad that I studied there though, Like it 448 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 3: was so great in giving me. I mean, it really 449 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 3: got rid of any imposter syndrome that I would have 450 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 3: had because I was like, well, I've studied this, I've 451 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,439 Speaker 3: got the terminology. It really helped with like technical stuff 452 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 3: like voice training, yeah, Alexander technique. 453 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. I worked with Panne McDonald. 454 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 3: Who was amazing and a yeah, like all of that 455 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 3: stuff really helped. And just doing scenes study and I 456 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 3: really unlocked my like love for like reading plays, yeah, 457 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 3: all of that stuff. Yeah, But there was other things 458 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,679 Speaker 3: where I think I became so neurotic, and like I 459 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 3: came out of there a bit like going into auditions 460 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 3: being like susductory, such a wag stone, like trying to 461 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 3: like do these like you know, I'm not in it, 462 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 3: and it's like, oh my god, what was I doing? 463 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 3: You know, expecting like someone everyone just to be in 464 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 3: or give you a job straight away. So it kind 465 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 3: of but that, you know, I don't blame the school 466 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 3: for that. That was just me being you know, but. 467 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 2: I grow it up. 468 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 3: I think it's also just pretty common. Yeah, with young 469 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 3: actors coming straight out of drama school. You kind of 470 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 3: like you're so well versed in all the terminology and 471 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 3: like being really grounded, and you know, you've been spending 472 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,120 Speaker 3: all day every day thinking about all of your ship 473 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,199 Speaker 3: and you kind of forget that, Like auditioning is actually 474 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 3: just being in the real world getting to know people. 475 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: Like living curious, but. 476 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 3: You still have to like get their own time, find 477 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 3: a part. Yeah, Like you know, people don't have time 478 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 3: to give you a million takes, like you have to 479 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 3: do your job. Yeah, And I think, yeah, it's you know, 480 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 3: legit to. 481 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,719 Speaker 2: Make you as a like very successful working actor. 482 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: I love it. It's very success. 483 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 2: Do you still train or do you work with a 484 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 2: coach or dialect coach You've got like an American audition. 485 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 3: Like I have. I have one of've like you know, 486 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 3: with my American team. Sometimes if I'm like really, you know, 487 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 3: I've been really close to certain things, or it's like 488 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 3: a specific dialect with a character where I'll do a session, 489 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 3: but no, I do. I mean, I'm a big one 490 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 3: for therapy, like and I know that sounds really no 491 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 3: adult genan act talking because it's not training, it's for 492 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 3: like your personal growth. But I think just being connected 493 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 3: to yourself helps you be a better artist. So like 494 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 3: I'm all for doing that regularly. And I do yeah, 495 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 3: like I like I said, yoga plarties, I do lots 496 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 3: of physical stuff. But I haven't really done training in 497 00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 3: a while. 498 00:23:58,480 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 1: I find. 499 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 3: I got a bit stuck in it. Like it was 500 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 3: easy to feel like I don't know, I think sometimes 501 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 3: when you're training a lot more. For me, it felt 502 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 3: like I'm not ready. I'm not ready to be an 503 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 3: actor because I'm still training. And I think it was 504 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 3: good for me to be like. 505 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 2: I actually, yeah, trust trust myself. 506 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 507 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 3: So but you know, I love the idea of doing 508 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,439 Speaker 3: a workshop every now and then, but I just I 509 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 3: haven't been busy. 510 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 2: That's all right, No, it's it's I also think it's 511 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 2: like different horses for courses, like different people like well 512 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 2: like take something from master class or workshop and then 513 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 2: be like, okay, cool, I've got that in my toolk 514 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 2: it now. And I think it's also case dependent too, 515 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 2: like yeah, if you're working on a specific dialection. Even 516 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 2: coming back to Travis, he booked Gallipoli and then flew 517 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 2: and was like, I've got to stand on the earth. 518 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 2: I've got to go to the sites I've got to 519 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 2: and that was his you know, I. 520 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 3: Mean, I think that's the thing. I think Sometimes you're like, Okay, well, 521 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 3: you know, I do lots of prep for jobs, or 522 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 3: you know, like I often make a playlist for the 523 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 3: character that I'm working on, or like a pinterest or 524 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 3: like costume is really big for me to help me 525 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 3: kind of get into character. 526 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 1: Like I love. One of my favorite parts. 527 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 3: Of getting a job is like having a fitting with 528 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 3: the costume designers and really like figuring out who this 529 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 3: person is. 530 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 1: So that stuff really helps. 531 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 2: But I say, shoes, them, shoes are so my thing. 532 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 3: Really, it's like a really it's like because I think 533 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 3: it affects how you stand. Yeah, and it's like how 534 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 3: And I know it sounds like like walk a mile 535 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 3: and you goat shoes. 536 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 1: But but it is. 537 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 3: It's like it is. It does affect how you hold 538 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,919 Speaker 3: your body and you stand. Like if I'm wearing a stiletto, 539 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 3: like I'm going to feel so much different energetically than 540 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 3: if I'm wearing like it's like yeah, like scummy olds, 541 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 3: Like I'm going to feel so different. 542 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: So really cost really helps. 543 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 3: And then times where costume has been like changed on 544 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 3: me for whatever reason, that can really throw you. 545 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: You know you have to but yeah. 546 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 3: Costume and yeah, do lots of but it depends on 547 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,479 Speaker 3: the job again, like it depends like you know, if 548 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 3: I'm playing a mother, or I'll spend a lot of 549 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 3: time with my friends kids or you. 550 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: Know, like I say that before, like it just really depends. 551 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,479 Speaker 3: Or I mean obviously, if I'm playing someone that has 552 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,360 Speaker 3: a specific skill, I'm going to like. 553 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 1: Go to medical school, you know. 554 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 2: Watching out graz Anatomy. 555 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 1: So I know you. 556 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 2: Played both comedic and dramatic. Comedy is like your favor right. 557 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I love comedy. Yeah, yeah, I mean, 558 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: I like to think I'm funny. 559 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 3: I don't know, but but yeah, I I feel like 560 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 3: as an actor, though, often it's like you're playing the 561 00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 3: same thing, Like playing drama and comedy are quite similar. 562 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 3: I think it's like the steaks, just lying different places, 563 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 3: like like in comedy the steak because a high over 564 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 3: often like really minuscule little things. Yeah, but yeah, Look, 565 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 3: I do a lot of drama, and I enjoy doing drama. 566 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: Often. 567 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 3: I feel like a drama set is sometimes more fun 568 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 3: than a comedy set because comedy can be quite hard. 569 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 3: You know, you're like rhythm and everyone's like really trying 570 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 3: to make the jokes land, and because the crew have 571 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 3: to be quiet because they can't ruin you take, you 572 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 3: always feel like you're bombing, Like you're like when you 573 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 3: do the table read. 574 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: Everyone's laughing, everyone's like, this script's amazing. 575 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 3: Then when you start shooting the scenes, it's like crickets 576 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 3: because they have to be quiet. 577 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: And then you're like is this even funny anymore? And 578 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 1: you start getting in your head. 579 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 3: But drama, like you know, it's I don't know, because 580 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 3: often if you're doing something quite heavy, like I just 581 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 3: shot a TV show Family next Door, for the ABC 582 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 3: that comes out later this year, and it's drama, and 583 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 3: I feel like, like, you know, we were shooting some 584 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 3: pretty heavy scenes and we all just became really silly 585 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,439 Speaker 3: on set because it's like you have to kind of 586 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 3: balance it out and so then it leaves. 587 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 1: Yeah. 588 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, we were just like doing singing all these stupid 589 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 3: songs and being really silly. So I don't know, but look, 590 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 3: I love both. I love with my writing. It's always 591 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 3: comedy just because I find things funny. 592 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 2: How do you go with like saying you're shooting comedy 593 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,439 Speaker 2: and then someone do you ever get the note? Not 594 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 2: the note, but like, hey we've got that. Take now 595 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 2: go rogue? 596 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,479 Speaker 3: Like oh, I love that, like so fun my favorite, 597 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 3: Like we're my first ever like regular, what do you 598 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 3: call it? An ongoing role on a TV show? Where 599 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 3: was on Crystals We Can Be Heroes? Yes, And that 600 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 3: was the first time and there was no script for that, 601 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 3: what no script at all, so each that it was 602 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 3: just a skeleton. So it'd be like in this scene, 603 00:28:55,880 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 3: Jamay does this, and the friends are going to react, 604 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 3: The friends are going to be supportive, the friends are 605 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 3: going to take it seriously, or there's going to be 606 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 3: friction and that was it, and so we would just 607 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 3: and our auditions for it were they gave me and 608 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 3: my friend who actually got the part with me, Adrian Smith. 609 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 3: We did it together. They gave us, and we were 610 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 3: like teenagers. I think I was like fifteen sixteen. 611 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: They gave us. 612 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 3: I think it was like a Dolly magazine and they 613 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 3: were like, just go for it. Just talk shit about 614 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 3: everything in there. And so we were just like being 615 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 3: little rat bags like we were and improvising and that's 616 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 3: how we. 617 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: Got the job. 618 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 3: So on set there was Yeah. So Chris was in 619 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 3: character the whole time as Jimmy. I only knew him 620 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 3: as jematically really the whole time. It wasn't until the 621 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 3: rat party that I saw him out of and I 622 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 3: was like, who is this. 623 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: He's quite que He's like quite quiet in real life, 624 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: really really quiet. 625 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 3: But yeah, like we improvised everything, and it was so 626 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,959 Speaker 3: inspiring to me. It was the first time I saw 627 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 3: someone create a show, running a show, doing comedy. 628 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:03,239 Speaker 1: And I grew up. 629 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 3: I was a massive Christopher guest fan, so I loved 630 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 3: like Spinal Tap, Best in Show, Waiting for Government, all 631 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 3: my favorite films, and they're quite similar. Like kind of mockumentary, 632 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 3: and I think they do a lot of improv, so 633 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 3: I was just like, I think that was the one 634 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 3: experience that made me really go, I kind of want 635 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 3: to do this as as an actor for the rest 636 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 3: of my life. 637 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: So yeah, I love improv. Sometimes. I mean it's sometimes 638 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: you can go. 639 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 3: And then sometimes sometimes it's also like can be intimidating 640 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,719 Speaker 3: or like it's hard if something just comes naturally, and 641 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 3: often if it's funny, then you laugh or you might 642 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 3: ruin the take because you're like trying not to laugh, and. 643 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 2: Then you have to do it again and it hits different. 644 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, I don't know, it's like even though 645 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 3: its actors, we're used to doing something over and over again, 646 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 3: when it's improved, it feels a bit it's different. But yeah, 647 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 3: it's like one of my favorite things. And I just 648 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 3: think sometimes I mean, if you're working with a really 649 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 3: great script, it's amazing, but sometimes it can really elevate 650 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 3: the scene or really just yeah, and if you're working 651 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 3: with someone that's. 652 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 1: Really electric in alive, Yeah, it's the best. It's my favorite. Yeah. 653 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: I feel like that's where. 654 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 2: Comics are so good when they get like cast in 655 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 2: a movie or a TV shot because they can hit 656 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 2: their lines and then straight away just run. 657 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 3: It's just kind of a goal like I like to, 658 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 3: Like I like to, you want to bring You want 659 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 3: to obviously fill the role and do the job, but 660 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 3: you want to also bring extra stuff to offer. 661 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, because we all have so much to offer. 662 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, so you want to Yeah, And I mean you 663 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 3: don't want to sit there and try to think of 664 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 3: something funny to like, No, but if something comes to 665 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 3: you or if there's something yeah, you know, if there's 666 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 3: like I don't know, food on set and you ask 667 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 3: the art department, You're like, can I eat this in 668 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 3: the scene or whatever, and just add to it, like yeah, 669 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 3: it can make stuff so much richer and also it's 670 00:31:58,360 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 3: also fun. 671 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. Any stuff to do makes it feel real and 672 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: more truthful. Yeah. 673 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have to ask ps, how quick is this going? 674 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 2: This is? But I keep looking at No. 675 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 1: That's why i'll quick is it going? Chatter box? 676 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 2: You're killing it? I have to ask you. 677 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, well you. 678 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 2: Won't be cutting that out yea. So for a young 679 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 2: actor that is maybe like I don't know if I train, 680 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 2: I don't know how to get an agent. What should 681 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 2: I do do I feel my own show real like 682 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 2: for someone green that wants to work as an actor 683 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 2: or wants to work in the industry, because I do 684 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 2: think there is a bit of a gap between the 685 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 2: training and the business side. But there is a business 686 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,959 Speaker 2: side to this gap. It's like it's like a whole. 687 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 3: It's like a it's a completely different thing, like navigating 688 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 3: a career with like you know, you got to remember 689 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 3: all these people you work. It's your agent's casting agents, directors, 690 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 3: the crew, like the costume designers, make up everyone. 691 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 1: It's like they're people. 692 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 3: They're like people that work really hard and have made 693 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 3: heaps of sacrifices to do what they do. And you know, 694 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 3: it's a real part of being an actor is also 695 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 3: like being part of a team and like making you know, 696 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 3: we're all problem solving one thing. When you're making a 697 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 3: movie or a TV show, you're all working together to 698 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 3: like work on one thing. 699 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: And you've got to remember it's not all about you. 700 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 3: And I think sometimes drama school, of course, because you're 701 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 3: focusing on acting, it can you can kind of have 702 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 3: blinkers on and you can feel like it's. 703 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 1: All about you and it's one piece. 704 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I was working with an actress one and 705 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 3: the boom operator. You know that I have the big 706 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 3: microphone on the stick. You know. We were shooting and 707 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 3: I think it was a d or someone on set 708 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 3: was like, oh, we've got boom shadow. Yeah, it's when 709 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 3: you know THEO makes shadow. And the actress I was 710 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 3: working with, she goes boob shadow and she was like 711 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:13,439 Speaker 3: though she thought her booms shadow. Man. 712 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 1: It was funny and I was bless you. I love 713 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 1: you so much. 714 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,280 Speaker 3: But it's that thing of like you, just as the actor, 715 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,359 Speaker 3: you just think everything is about you. I think when 716 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 3: every every conversation they're talking about you, or the directors 717 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:25,919 Speaker 3: like we need to go again, and no one tells 718 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 3: you why you think it's all about you when it's 719 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 3: like it's most of the time it's not. 720 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's actually not. 721 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 3: It's like we're all everyone's got little job that they're 722 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 3: focusing on, whether it's pulling focus on the lens of 723 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 3: the camera or whatever. I've totally digressed though that. What 724 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,240 Speaker 3: was a question I love as for a younger. 725 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I love that as well, like not make 726 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 2: it too much about you, like just go in, stay present, 727 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 2: you know, do your job. 728 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,319 Speaker 3: And also respect everyone else's job because you're not more 729 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,359 Speaker 3: important than in anyone and it we're so important, Like 730 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 3: you can do an amazing job. 731 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 1: But if this sounds bad, it doesn't matter. 732 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 3: If the if you've got a piece of hair like 733 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 3: eye doesn't matter, like like you can't use that take. 734 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,840 Speaker 3: So there's everyone's job is so important. But if you 735 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 3: if someone's like, what's the advice to someone getting it 736 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 3: like a young and or when I say young and 737 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,799 Speaker 3: just like someone that's like, Oh, I think I want 738 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 3: to do this thing, but it's really scary and daunting. 739 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,359 Speaker 1: Just just do it. Just do it. 740 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 3: Like I think there's so many talented, amazing people in 741 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,359 Speaker 3: the world that we don't get to see what they 742 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 3: have to offer because they're scared and they're waiting till 743 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 3: they're ready or waiting till they're perfect. And it's like 744 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 3: we're never going to be perfect. Yeah, like it's the 745 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 3: imperfect world. Just just just yeah. Like in if it's studying, 746 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 3: or if it's you know, creating your own show cast 747 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 3: profile and submitting to jobs on your own, or if 748 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 3: it's reaching out to agents, or if it's writing a 749 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 3: show for fringe festival, or like doing amateur theater just 750 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:02,240 Speaker 3: like you know, I think, yes, you can learn from studying, 751 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 3: but you also learn from being in the world and 752 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 3: putting stuff out there. 753 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:06,840 Speaker 1: Or if you want to write, write. 754 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 3: Something like I feel like so many people like I 755 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 3: just want to write, and I'm like, okay, well right, 756 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,880 Speaker 3: And it might be the basis ships they say. The 757 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 3: first one always is yeah, but then you've got something 758 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 3: to like work with, you know. 759 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 1: It's like it's really hard. 760 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 3: You can't put anything out there if you don't have 761 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 3: anything to put out there. 762 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 1: And I really believe that we've all got something to offer. 763 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:30,840 Speaker 3: So and every time, like I think of stuff, the 764 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 3: first stuff I made or the first jobs I did, 765 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,719 Speaker 3: I'm like, they're pretty crap. 766 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 1: But they get better and I know I'll get better 767 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 1: in future. I look back on stuff I'm doing and be. 768 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,319 Speaker 3: Like, oh, but but it's like you just grow and 769 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 3: like evolve, and yeah, I think sometimes yeah, don't don't 770 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 3: be a perfectionist. 771 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 1: That would be my advice. 772 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:55,800 Speaker 3: And just also, you know you will if you study, 773 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 3: you'll find more versatility as an actor or an artist. 774 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 1: But it doesn't mean that you can't play character. Now 775 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 1: you can just play someone that's quite similar to you. 776 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, the cool thing about studying is it puts you 777 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,879 Speaker 2: straight into a community of like minded creatively. 778 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 3: That is so that's a really you need to find 779 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 3: people that respect and encourage you to do that. Yeah, 780 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,360 Speaker 3: I think studying acting is so great. Or joining a 781 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,840 Speaker 3: theater company. Yeah, or like I had a it was 782 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:22,360 Speaker 3: like a book club, but it was like a script 783 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,799 Speaker 3: club and each week we'd read a play and I 784 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:25,799 Speaker 3: did it for like two years. 785 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 1: Like stuff like that. 786 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 3: It's like, you want to find people that care about 787 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 3: what you do as much as you do. And I think, 788 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 3: particularly in Australia, like talking about tap poppy syndrome and stuff, 789 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,799 Speaker 3: I think it's easy to feel like it's this like 790 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:45,800 Speaker 3: flippant silly thing, particularly just anything artistic, any artistic pursuit. 791 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 3: And I think it's important to be around people that 792 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:55,880 Speaker 3: see the value in art and you as a little actor. 793 00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, friend, I could talk to you all 794 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 2: day long. We are we are there. 795 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,720 Speaker 3: I'm going to do a hot seat with you though. Okay, 796 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 3: I'm going to drink my coffee drink. I feel like 797 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 3: I had boogers in my nose. 798 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 2: But I'm totally keeping all of this in. So, first 799 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:11,759 Speaker 2: of all. Thank you for being here today. You're flip 800 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 2: and wonderful. My pleasure. 801 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:14,239 Speaker 1: Thanks for having you. 802 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 2: That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always, 803 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 2: thank you to our guests and let's continue the conversation 804 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 2: on Instagram. I'm at Yamo Lullaberry. 805 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 1: This potty my work for. 806 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 2: Podcast is available on all streaming platforms. 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