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Speaker 1: This is gem Nation with Jonesy.

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Speaker 2: Could you disappear without a trace? Do you have the

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Speaker 2: skills to outrun police detectives, special forces, cyber detectives, even

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Speaker 2: former British intelligence.

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Speaker 3: Sounds like a tough.

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Speaker 2: Ask, but that's what eighteen fugitives are trying to do.

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Speaker 2: On a new TV series, Hunted that starts on Sunday night,

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Speaker 2: one man, the Chief Doctor David Craig, is going to

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Speaker 2: be someone who's going to try and track them down,

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Speaker 2: and he joins us.

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Speaker 3: Now, hello David, that's quite the title. David.

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Speaker 1: Oh, thank you very much. Good morning.

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Speaker 4: Can I call you chief doctor Dave or doctor Dave

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Speaker 4: or what would you like?

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Speaker 1: Oh? David's fine, David's fine.

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Speaker 2: So your background, David, You've been a bodyguard for including

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Speaker 2: for three prime ministers, for Bob Hawk, for Paul Keating,

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Speaker 2: for John Howard.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's correct. That was in my career before

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Speaker 1: I moved into cateterrorism, intelligence and COVID operations.

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Speaker 4: Wow, when you're a bodyguard, there must be that moment

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Speaker 4: to be switched on all the time, don't you Because

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Speaker 4: you don't want that moment like in that Clint Eastwood

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Speaker 4: movie when you know he took the bullet.

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Speaker 3: For the president. Not even that moment.

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Speaker 2: We were just hearing this morning about Abraham Lincoln's bodyguard

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Speaker 2: stepped outside to go to the saloon next door when

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Speaker 2: Abraham Lincoln got shot the theater.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a very it's a mentally training job.

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Speaker 2: I bet it is. Actually Miguel Maestra, one of my

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Speaker 2: colleagues on the living room, was it a Jimmy Barnes concert,

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Speaker 2: went to the toilet. There were these giant strong men

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Speaker 2: just standing in there looking at him, and he thought,

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Speaker 2: what's going on? The person going to the toilet next

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Speaker 2: to him is Anthony Albanezi. So you even have to

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Speaker 2: follow a prime minister into the loop.

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Speaker 1: He said, yeah, we don't watch.

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Speaker 4: Although I did say that sounds like Miguel's Weekend, where

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Speaker 4: just men are watching over.

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Speaker 2: A week now with this show, I mean, it sounds

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Speaker 2: to me like it would be impossible in the modern

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Speaker 2: era to disappear. Having said that, we've lost entire planes

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Speaker 2: in an ocean that have never turned up in recent times.

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Speaker 2: Are there ways to dis peer?

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Speaker 1: Look, there are ways to disappear. It's very It's a

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Speaker 1: lot hundred model the people think. But one thing I

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Speaker 1: learned very quickly with this Serie hundred was never underestimate

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Speaker 1: the rat cunning of a nausea on the run. They

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Speaker 1: are very ingenious. The things that people come up with,

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Speaker 1: their plans, their preparations. Nothing was a walk in the

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Speaker 1: park for us.

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Speaker 4: So when they originally run off, then how long have

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Speaker 4: you've got to catch them?

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Speaker 3: Obviously that in that time period.

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Speaker 4: But if they go and use an ATM or use

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Speaker 4: a mobile phone, then you can track them quite easily.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's correct. All the powers of state are reputated,

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Speaker 1: I mean the fugitives of good people. This is a competition, yep.

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Speaker 1: So they haven't committed any crime, but we are tributing

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Speaker 1: it as if they have, and with the same vigular

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Speaker 1: determination that we do if it was a serious crew,

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Speaker 1: if they were serious criminals. So we are able to

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Speaker 1: apply to the to the referee for information to allow

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Speaker 1: us to access someone ATM to the phone. We will

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Speaker 1: hack into their computers. If they put their head up

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Speaker 1: above the digital dust, we're going to.

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Speaker 2: Be there, right and they're not just time on the sofa.

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Speaker 2: You did check their first in here, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Started, We've got metadata, We've got everything.

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Speaker 3: Have you checked the sofa. Well, it sounds like a great.

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Speaker 2: Show, does I'm really looking forward to it.

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Speaker 3: You're always going to be Chief Doctor David to me, by.

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Speaker 1: The way, Oh, thanks very much. This is the first

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Speaker 1: time we've done this in Australia's very successful in the UK,

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Speaker 1: den Italy, France, and I'm so glad that we're getting

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Speaker 1: to do it in Australia with a realizing and we've

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Speaker 1: all got a bit of Ned Kelly blood in us,

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Speaker 1: so we all want the fugitives to get away. But

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Speaker 1: I think I'm the good guy. I think the hunters

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Speaker 1: are the good guys, but other people will think otherwise.

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Speaker 4: I can we're watching It's this Sunday seven thirty on

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Speaker 4: ten and ten. Play like my show was a weekend

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Speaker 4: after me being on the cans and it's called Munted.

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Speaker 3: Channel ten cents. They weren't interesting. We found you on

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Speaker 3: the sofa, that's what it would be.

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Speaker 4: Dr David, Chief Doctor David Craig, thank you for joining us.

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Speaker 1: Thanks very much, guys, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 3: Thanks David. Look after yourself.