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Speaker 1: This is the first episode of Georgie's Hotline. These are
Speaker 1: our fun Friday epps where you in your life dilemmas
Speaker 1: and I provide my unqualified two cents to the situation.
Speaker 1: We have got three juicy questions today. All right, guys,
Speaker 1: So today's question. We are chatting about an overbearing mother
Speaker 1: in law, if a break is the right decision in
Speaker 1: a relationship, and how you can constantly want more but
Speaker 1: still be grateful for what you have and what that
Speaker 1: looks like. These questions are juicy and I cannot wait
Speaker 1: to get into it. But first I'm going to give
Speaker 1: you a little Georgie's recommendation of the week. So I
Speaker 1: have just started reading the book by James Clear, Atomic Habits.
Speaker 1: I feel like I've seen this book everywhere on TikTok
Speaker 1: and like life, so I'm super slow to this trend,
Speaker 1: but it is great. So it's all about just like
Speaker 1: utilizing your time habits routine. You know, I'm a routine gal,
Speaker 1: I'm a routine mum, so of course I'm.
Speaker 2: Going to like this book.
Speaker 1: And I love that he puts a lot of like
Speaker 1: science and experiments and just like some really interesting sort
Speaker 1: of stories to go with it. So that's definitely my
Speaker 1: book recommendation to you guys. Also, I haven't finished it yet,
Speaker 1: but I'm just started the new season of Selling Sunset.
Speaker 1: Big fan of Selling Sunset, just because it's like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, it's a really good like trash TV, Like
Speaker 1: it's brain it is brain numbing, but it's just a
Speaker 1: bit of fun. And I just I love property and
Speaker 1: I love single the gorgeous houses and the drama's a
Speaker 1: bit crazy honestly, but yeah, that's what that's my two
Speaker 1: little recommendations for the week. I'm actually yet to finish
Speaker 1: Selling Sunset because Ivy has not been She just has
Speaker 1: not been gone to bed. She's just decided she wants
Speaker 1: to stay up and party with mom and dad most nights.
Speaker 1: So I'll probably get only about twenty minutes in. Ever,
Speaker 1: so I'm yet to finish the sea or like even
Speaker 1: an episode, but hopefully I can actually finish it and
Speaker 1: tell you if it was worth it. But so far,
Speaker 1: so good and honestly trash TV like it doesn't really matter,
Speaker 1: does it. And also, I just want to say a
Speaker 1: big thank you for so much love, support and excitement
Speaker 1: on our first official episode back. It's really great to
Speaker 1: be back in your ears. I'm so happy you guys,
Speaker 1: love the new branding. And I do apologize once again
Speaker 1: for the urps. You can blame a Tear.
Speaker 2: For that because she made me do the sprite challenge.
Speaker 1: I feel like that's just like we're gonna have to
Speaker 1: have a little snippet of my burps and all episodes
Speaker 1: now because it's like a thing.
Speaker 3: All right, guys, let's get into the episode.
Speaker 1: All right, guys, let's get into the first question. So
Speaker 1: I'm going to get a tear to re out the DM.
Speaker 2: What have we got a tear?
Speaker 4: This one's quite a good one. It is a live
Speaker 4: question I need help with, how the hell do I
Speaker 4: respectfully said boundaries with my mother in law when it
Speaker 4: comes to my five month old baby. I had a
Speaker 4: great relationship with my mother in law, but since having
Speaker 4: my baby, she's gone a bit nuts, including accidentally calling
Speaker 4: herself mummy to him. This has happened on multiple occasions.
Speaker 4: I have a supportive partner who is willing to express
Speaker 4: our boundaries, but I'm scared of how she will feel
Speaker 4: help a sleep deprived mama out.
Speaker 1: I the like, the part of the DM that just
Speaker 1: gets me is accidentally calling herself mummy to him, Like
Speaker 1: that's just so I don't know, like it would be
Speaker 1: funny if it was you know, once, but she's like
Speaker 1: on multiple occasions. Okay, wow, right, let's get into it.
Speaker 1: So this is obviously super relevant to me because I've
Speaker 1: literally got a five month old two. I do have
Speaker 1: a couple of questions though, because, like what I want
Speaker 1: to know at the end, she goes help a sleep
Speaker 1: deprived mama out, So obviously baby is not sleeping, you know,
Speaker 1: she's doing all the things, and so I want to
Speaker 1: be like, is the mother in law really helping her out?
Speaker 1: Or is it just you know, she pops over every
Speaker 1: now and again, because the first thing I'm thinking is like,
Speaker 1: you don't want to piss off the mother in law
Speaker 1: if it's a lot of help.
Speaker 2: Does that make sense? Yes, But I don't know. I
Speaker 2: think it's a hard one.
Speaker 1: I'm going I'm going between two things here because I
Speaker 1: love that she said my partner is very supportive. So
Speaker 1: I'm almost like he maybe needs to speak to her
Speaker 1: because it's, you know, his mom. And I've got so
Speaker 1: like a similar story where well it's not similar, but.
Speaker 2: I kind of can understand it.
Speaker 1: So before Ivy was born, I actually have a mom
Speaker 1: who she's the best mom. She is like the ultimate
Speaker 1: maternal mother and she's like we call it like the
Speaker 1: baby Whisperer. And so I have three older brothers, four kids,
Speaker 1: and you know, she was a stay at home mom
Speaker 1: our whole life. And she cooked and clean, she did
Speaker 1: my dad's business like she was just like she could
Speaker 1: do it all. So maternal, so loving and just like
Speaker 1: so sweet and loves babies. And so when I obviously
Speaker 1: got pregnant, she just was like, oh my god, best
Speaker 1: day of my life. So my older brothers all have
Speaker 1: you know, babies, but it's obviously just being a little
Speaker 1: bit different. I'm her baby, her baby's having a baby,
Speaker 1: and she was.
Speaker 2: Just so excited.
Speaker 1: And I remember kind of having this conversation with mom
Speaker 1: and just saying, I know you're the baby whisper. I
Speaker 1: know you've had four kids and you would know so
Speaker 1: many things, and you know you're so good at kids.
Speaker 1: But also remember this is my first baby, and I've
Speaker 1: got to make my own mistakes and I've got to
Speaker 1: kind of learn, and I've got to be able to
Speaker 1: be the mom because I think sometimes moms they mother
Speaker 1: so they can just be a bit overbearing. And I
Speaker 1: kind of had you know, maybe that would happen. So
Speaker 1: I actually had that conversation before Ivy was born, and
Speaker 1: then like since Ivy has been born, my mom like
Speaker 1: was amazing, Like I never felt like she was overbearing
Speaker 1: or anything like that, but I kind of like set
Speaker 1: that boundary at the start, and I think the words
Speaker 1: I kind of said to her is like I want
Speaker 1: you to be there and I want you to be
Speaker 1: supportive and that sort of thing.
Speaker 2: But it's only if I ask.
Speaker 1: I don't want you to kind of come in and
Speaker 1: be like do things this way, and you need to
Speaker 1: try this and.
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: If I'm wanting help and asking for help, definitely like,
Speaker 1: you know, come in, but otherwise kind of let me
Speaker 1: figure it out. And yeah, we haven't had any issues,
Speaker 1: you know since Ivy is born. If anything, I'm like,
Speaker 1: come look after Ivy more so my kind of thinking.
Speaker 1: But in saying that, that's my mom, So I feel
Speaker 1: like you might have like a bit of a different relationship.
Speaker 2: But she has said here that she does have a
Speaker 2: great relationship with her.
Speaker 1: So I'm in between two minds of do you kind
Speaker 1: of let your partner take the reins and go, look mom,
Speaker 1: you know, let's just call her.
Speaker 2: What do we want to call it? Right here? The
Speaker 2: listener yan Liann. Let's call it Lienne.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: Does the partner go, look, mom, you know, Lianne is
Speaker 1: a great mom.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for the help. It's amazing. We
Speaker 2: love you here.
Speaker 1: But just like, you know, take a little bit of
Speaker 1: a step back and just make sure you're being respectful
Speaker 1: of her and kind of do it that way or
Speaker 1: is it going to be more beneficial and kind of
Speaker 1: just because also, will the mother in law just be like,
Speaker 1: oh like not really understand and kind of take it seriously,
Speaker 1: because the other option is just going direct to her,
Speaker 1: and I think honesty is the best policy, you know,
Speaker 1: and just saying, look, I know you're a great mother,
Speaker 1: I know you love this baby, but I'm just feeling
Speaker 1: like you're a bit overbearing and you're just you know,
Speaker 1: a little bit too much. And I love and respect you,
Speaker 1: but if you could just you know, ease back a.
Speaker 2: Little bit, that would be amazing. What do you think
Speaker 2: a tear.
Speaker 4: Even like potentially bringing in the fact that you're raising
Speaker 4: a baby in a very different world to what she
Speaker 4: raised babies in and that things need to be done
Speaker 4: different now, Like your kid isn't gonna have the same
Speaker 4: issues or face the same challenges that hers did. There's
Speaker 4: a whole like even just blame it on technology. Your
Speaker 4: kid's gonna have to deal with a different kind of
Speaker 4: bullying and.
Speaker 2: We're in a different era.
Speaker 1: Mom.
Speaker 4: Yeah, God, so even just bringing that in, blaming it
Speaker 4: on that, but also yeah, I can kind of understand.
Speaker 1: And it's like it's obviously going to be so helpful
Speaker 1: to have her around, but it would almost make the
Speaker 1: experience a bit unenjoyable sometimes where you're sitting there going,
Speaker 1: oh my god, doing the wrong thing for my child, right, yeah, and.
Speaker 2: She's like just a bit crazy, like just a bit
Speaker 2: full on.
Speaker 4: I just can't imagine someone calling yourself mummy.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, guys, I actually have a funny story.
Speaker 1: So it's funny that we got this dam because I
Speaker 1: remember listening to I honestly can't remember. It was years ago,
Speaker 1: but it was like a radio segment of overbearing mother
Speaker 1: in laws and someone called in its laughing. I told
Speaker 1: her this before someone called in and was like I
Speaker 1: literally caught my mother in law try to breast feed
Speaker 1: my face.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: I don't imagine that, I know too much, Like what
Speaker 1: would you actually say?
Speaker 2: Like I wouldn't. I wouldn't know what to say. Do
Speaker 2: you even like make a joke out of it? I would,
Speaker 2: I'd have to think anymore. Yes, yes, oh my god. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I think in conclusion, I think honesty is the
Speaker 1: best policy and you just need to be honest with
Speaker 1: her and just go look, I'm finding a little bit uncomfortable,
Speaker 1: like howful on your being. Please stop calling yourself mummy
Speaker 1: to my child. And I think you just need to
Speaker 1: set those boundaries. And I honestly think she would be like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2: Like I didn't mean to.
Speaker 1: You know, if you do it in a nice, respectful way,
Speaker 1: I yeah, I think I think it will be fine.
Speaker 4: And even if it's uncomfortable, which it might be, it
Speaker 4: will settle. And you'd rather have it uncomfortable for a
Speaker 4: little bit than be sitting like this for the next
Speaker 4: year in a bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because also you might then start building up like resentment,
Speaker 1: and you know, you don't want to build that toxic relationship,
Speaker 1: Whereas if you just spoke to her now, she might
Speaker 1: even be like, oh my god, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 4: I didn't even realize. Next question, Okay, dilemma. My partner
Speaker 4: and I have been together for close to two years,
Speaker 4: living together in a small apartment. It seems as though
Speaker 4: we have lost our way together and separately. I lost
Speaker 4: a love for myself and relied heavily on getting the
Speaker 4: love I needed from him, not prioritizing filling up my
Speaker 4: own cup. We have had a very mature open talk
Speaker 4: and have made the decision to take some space from
Speaker 4: one another. Not broken up, but he's moving out for
Speaker 4: us to both live on our own and take a
Speaker 4: step back and find ourselves again. How would you suggest
Speaker 4: navigating this time, and do you believe we were on
Speaker 4: a break? If you know, you know is good for
Speaker 4: a relationship in order to find our way back to
Speaker 4: one another. I deeply trust in the universe but can't
Speaker 4: help but still feel fear of completely losing him. Oh,
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie, guys. I had to have a
Speaker 4: tier explain that we're on the break.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's not watched Friends in order.
Speaker 1: I yeah, like I've watched like various episodes, but I yeah,
Speaker 1: like not consistently. And I think I've seen a couple
Speaker 1: of means about it and like kind of got the concept,
Speaker 1: but a tear had to fully explain it to me.
Speaker 1: So now I'm up with the friend's reference. Oh okay,
Speaker 1: this is a good one. It's I feel like a
Speaker 1: little bit like I'm obviously unqualified to answer all these
Speaker 1: questions disclaimer, but I feel a little bit unqualified because
Speaker 1: I haven't been in this scenario. And again, I'm kind
Speaker 1: of in between two minds because the first thing that
Speaker 1: I think is and this maybe like too much of
Speaker 1: a black and white answer, but I just think relationships
Speaker 1: obviously are hard and they're a struggle. But if you
Speaker 1: get to the point you know where.
Speaker 2: You want to move out and not live with that person?
Speaker 1: Is it the REALI is it the right relationship anymore?
Speaker 2: Do you kind of agree or do you think that's
Speaker 2: too like rough?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I think it's it's weird because I noticed that
Speaker 4: you said you've been together for two years, and it's
Speaker 4: been a wild two years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, COVID.
Speaker 4: Yeah, getting stuck inside with people, even if if it's
Speaker 4: for six weeks, if it's for the whole two years,
Speaker 4: depending on where you are, it is pretty difficult. And
Speaker 4: even then, I feel like a lot of people have
Speaker 4: had just an accelerated period of growth because of COVID
Speaker 4: and everything that's happened around it. So it could be
Speaker 4: potentially that he might have been your soulmate all for
Speaker 4: a friend reference your love stuff at the beginning of
Speaker 4: the two years, but now you've just grown in two
Speaker 4: different directions but still share that love for each other.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so interesting. And first of all, I just
Speaker 1: want to say, I love that they've come to this
Speaker 1: mature situation where they realized that they need to work
Speaker 1: on each other and moving out is the best option. Ye.
Speaker 1: I love that she's obviously a big believer, you know,
Speaker 1: in the universe and so on top of that too.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like, I'm a big believer in if
Speaker 1: you guys are meant to be together, you will, but
Speaker 1: I don't know in this circumstance. I'm kind of feeling like,
Speaker 1: if you do really need to like not be together
Speaker 1: and work on yourself, can you do that still together
Speaker 1: but just not living together.
Speaker 2: Or do you need a clean break and.
Speaker 1: Then you know, catch up in a year six months
Speaker 1: and see if you guys can get back together. I
Speaker 1: just think it's a little bit fuzzy if you're still
Speaker 1: together but you've moved out, but you need to work
Speaker 1: on yourself, do you know.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's sort of like you're trying to grow,
Speaker 4: but you're still tied down to something yes and love that,
Speaker 4: and you can't, Like you're if you're tied down, you're
Speaker 4: not going to be able to go as high or
Speaker 4: grow in the right direction.
Speaker 1: Because something she says is like, I'm not prioritizing filling
Speaker 1: up my own cut, but it's like, can you do
Speaker 1: that if you're still tied to this person, which you
Speaker 1: obviously wouldn't be able to because it will always limit
Speaker 1: your decisions because it'll be in the back of your mind,
Speaker 1: like you'll say, Oh, this really great job came up,
Speaker 1: but oh it's in a different city, should I take it?
Speaker 1: But maybe that that is where you're supposed to go,
Speaker 1: and that's where the universe is pushing you. But because
Speaker 1: you've still got him in the back of your mind,
Speaker 1: you will be stuck. You'll say, I can't take that
Speaker 1: because we're going to catch up in a year and
Speaker 1: get back together, and you can't grow. And I think
Speaker 1: it's also there's two sort of situations here. It's either
Speaker 1: you guys move out and you basically realize that you
Speaker 1: don't need to be with him, and maybe the love
Speaker 1: was definite, like a tear you said, like it was
Speaker 1: there at the start, but maybe it's a scenario of
Speaker 1: you kind of have grown apart, but you just felt
Speaker 1: so comfortable and it was almost like a complacent sort
Speaker 1: of scenario. So either that is going to happen, or
Speaker 1: you're going to move out and you're going to be like, no,
Speaker 1: he's my person, like he's the one, But then also
Speaker 1: he needs to feel that way exactly.
Speaker 4: And the other thing that she said where she said
Speaker 4: that she couldn't fill up her cup herself and she
Speaker 4: needed that validation from someone else. It sounds a bit codependent. Again,
Speaker 4: not qualified to say that. I just feel like it's
Speaker 4: so important to be able to look after yourself and
Speaker 4: be able to know the things that you like that
Speaker 4: will fill your cup and find those things separate to
Speaker 4: someone else because if you always which you've obviously realized
Speaker 4: that you can't rely on him for that because that's
Speaker 4: not fair to him, but it's also not fair to you.
Speaker 4: So find those things. The fastest way to do that
Speaker 4: is to have a clean break.
Speaker 2: I agree, I'm kind of with you on this one.
Speaker 2: To tear.
Speaker 1: I think it needs to be a clean break. Like
Speaker 1: I think, if you've decided to move out and you
Speaker 1: need to work on these things, I think you have
Speaker 1: to actually give it a good go solo, work on
Speaker 1: making sure you know you can give love to yourself,
Speaker 1: prioritizing filling up your own cup, and.
Speaker 2: Really give it a good go. So if you do.
Speaker 1: Decide to get back together, you can give it a
Speaker 1: good shot exactly, and you can both be the best
Speaker 1: versions of yourself, because that's what I would bet each
Speaker 1: of you deserve.
Speaker 4: And even I guess we still need to answer her
Speaker 4: question how does she navigate this time? I would probably say,
Speaker 4: set clear boundaries on what both of you are expecting
Speaker 4: from this, because the last thing you want is one
Speaker 4: of you thinking that you're still somewhat together and the
Speaker 4: other one not, and then then you have some friends.
Speaker 2: Like yeah, scenario.
Speaker 1: And also I don't know, this also might be black
Speaker 1: and white again, like obviously my relationship is so different
Speaker 1: because I've had I've been in a long term relationship
Speaker 1: for like ten years.
Speaker 2: But I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just think like relationships are hard in a struggle,
Speaker 1: but also not that hard, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like as hard as things get with me and Tim, like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, with a new baby, it's like fucking
Speaker 1: can be World War three sometimes, but like I would
Speaker 1: not even dream of leaving him, do you. I mean,
Speaker 1: like that's not even a scenario in my head.
Speaker 2: So there's also a part of me but in saying
Speaker 2: that they've only been together two years?
Speaker 4: Yeah, and what have you done with Tim to make
Speaker 4: sure that you guys still are your own people?
Speaker 1: So we I love, Like, I just have a really
Speaker 1: strong friend group and I prioritize my friends. So it's
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of people sometimes you know,
Speaker 1: instead of saying yes to what their friends are doing,
Speaker 1: they kind of check with their partner first, then go
Speaker 1: back and forward. But I'm very much like if a
Speaker 1: friend wants to hang out and you know, we plan something,
Speaker 1: it's always going to happen.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to bail.
Speaker 1: So always prioritizing friendships. And then also for me, like
Speaker 1: my work is obviously my life. So a huge part
Speaker 1: of that too is like you know, like my world
Speaker 1: isn't just him, if that makes sense.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, And I think potentially I lock time alone
Speaker 4: what I would do about and just.
Speaker 2: Visit him and Ivy.
Speaker 4: Honestly, I've heard about relationships with people where they like
Speaker 4: live in different houses just on the same street what
Speaker 4: and they're like married, and they just they like their
Speaker 4: own space and that's what makes them happiest.
Speaker 2: So it might I get like my own room or something.
Speaker 1: Literally, I'm going to die if he heard this right,
Speaker 1: he doesn't listen to what us Okay, So in conclusion,
Speaker 1: a tiar, what do you kind of reckon?
Speaker 2: You say yours and I'll say my advice.
Speaker 4: I reckon if you've already had the chat and you've
Speaker 4: decided that he's moving out to have a clean break,
Speaker 4: or if you're not comfortable with a clean break, having
Speaker 4: clear boundaries on what your break is. Also deciding how
Speaker 4: much you want to have to do with each other
Speaker 4: prior to him moving out, so you don't want him
Speaker 4: trying to catch up or you trying to catch up
Speaker 4: if the other one wasn't expecting that, And also just
Speaker 4: keeping an honest dialogue while you're on your break, if
Speaker 4: you're staying sort of tethered to each other, but it
Speaker 4: is probably best to have a clean break and then
Speaker 4: see how you are down alone.
Speaker 1: And I kind of truly believe in the like, you
Speaker 1: can't lose someone if they're your person, if that makes sense,
Speaker 1: and if he does fade away or whatnot, then it's
Speaker 1: like it wasn't meant to be. And that's amazing that
Speaker 1: you figured it out and you didn't kind of I
Speaker 1: don't want to say waste any more time, but yeah,
Speaker 1: you figured it out at this moment. And then also
Speaker 1: I just really want to touch on this, but I
Speaker 1: think also if you are going to have a clean
Speaker 1: break and you're obviously living separately, I don't know, this
Speaker 1: might be a weird way of thinking, but I think
Speaker 1: you know if he does go off and sleep with
Speaker 1: other people, if we're talking friends reference, I think that
Speaker 1: can't have an effect if you get back with each other.
Speaker 2: No down the line, don't you reckon. I don't think
Speaker 2: it would either.
Speaker 4: Like sometimes you don't know what you happen until you've
Speaker 4: lost it kind of thing, like.
Speaker 1: And you've just got to accept that you guys, you know,
Speaker 1: decide it will happen.
Speaker 4: Yes, and that's a decase you're making. But that doesn't
Speaker 4: mean that that he's the wrong person or the right
Speaker 4: person if that sort of stuff happens.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Agree, And I think we can just be like mature
Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, all right, that was a goody.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was last question. I'm constantly torn between wanting
Speaker 4: more and being satisfied with what I have. For example,
Speaker 4: wanting bigger and better things for my life, more success,
Speaker 4: more happiness, more money. First, being satisfied with what I have,
Speaker 4: content with what I have achieved, and living in the
Speaker 4: present moment. I feel like if I'm making big goals,
Speaker 4: I'm telling myself that what I currently have isn't enough,
Speaker 4: and I am too focused on the future rather than
Speaker 4: appreciating the present moment.
Speaker 2: Ooh, is this a great question.
Speaker 1: Okay, The first thing that actually just came to me
Speaker 1: when you're saying that a Tia was so what I
Speaker 1: truly believe in first of all, is you can like
Speaker 1: have both and you can be doing both things simultaneous.
Speaker 2: Is that the right word simultaneously? Oh my god?
Speaker 4: I feel like the Grant Phillies on this lit.
Speaker 1: I know cele don't, but do you kind of agree
Speaker 1: in regards to a huge like thing of my practice.
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm the queen at being grateful for
Speaker 1: what I have while continuously working on the next thing and.
Speaker 2: Loving to dream big.
Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing I find, especially in women,
Speaker 1: is we are so scared on dreaming big. We shouldn't like,
Speaker 1: we should just be grateful with what we have now,
Speaker 1: and we shouldn't want to dream and we shouldn't want
Speaker 1: to want.
Speaker 2: You know, something better for yourself?
Speaker 1: Yes, and a fancy car and a fancy house, and
Speaker 1: that's greedy, and I feel like we like I feel
Speaker 1: like that's such a like theme in a lot of
Speaker 1: like women's lives, where they don't want to dream big
Speaker 1: because we should just be content.
Speaker 2: But I'm like, you should be lucky, you should just
Speaker 2: be with what you have.
Speaker 1: No, Oh my god, that's such something like my parents
Speaker 1: would say to me. So I'm such a big believer
Speaker 1: in you can dream big and you can want success
Speaker 1: and you can go after it while also being grateful
Speaker 1: and content with what you have now. And what I
Speaker 1: was actually going to say what came to mind is seasons.
Speaker 1: So like, I think you need to decide what season
Speaker 1: are you currently in.
Speaker 2: Are you in a season where you.
Speaker 1: Are working, you know, over time, and you've got these
Speaker 1: huge goals and you're going and going going, Or are
Speaker 1: you in a season where, yes, you've got some big goals,
Speaker 1: but it's also a season of chill and I can
Speaker 1: still have these big goals, but I've just maybe gone
Speaker 1: through like a pretty hectic fallen season and it's like
Speaker 1: a chill season, do you I mean.
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure. And I feel like that is the
Speaker 4: only way you can live your life. Like, if you're
Speaker 4: living your life consistently, just like, it's great to be
Speaker 4: grateful for what you have, but if that's all you're doing,
Speaker 4: you're not going to move forward and you're limiting yourself. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but if all you're doing is focusing on what you
Speaker 4: don't have, you're just limiting yourself in a different way
Speaker 4: because you're unable to feel happiness ever just want something
Speaker 4: else all the time.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, you almost need to have a taste
Speaker 1: of both, yeah, or at different seasons. Yeah, but you
Speaker 1: don't always want to just sit there and be like, well,
Speaker 1: I'm so grateful for what I'm having and I should
Speaker 1: just be content, so I shouldn't go after these other things.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And also you shouldn't always be like I want more,
Speaker 1: I want more, I want more.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because either of those ways, you'll never be happy
Speaker 4: with what you have. And just taking I guess a
Speaker 4: few moments every day to just practice gratitude is such
Speaker 4: a big thing, and it can go from being grateful
Speaker 4: for the job you have or the car or house
Speaker 4: you have to just a simple thing is when I
Speaker 4: turn the lights, which the lights come on? Or when
Speaker 4: I when the tap water comes out, Like I'm not
Speaker 4: living somewhere where that's a question for me, I know
Speaker 4: that that happens. Yeah, And just practicing gratitude and starting
Speaker 4: with small things and working up to the bigger things
Speaker 4: you're grateful for while still like make a vision board
Speaker 4: if you're in your chill season, maybe have a mood
Speaker 4: board with how you want to feel and not smart
Speaker 4: goals or guy.
Speaker 1: Tia has this really great thing she has chatted to
Speaker 1: me about where she goes. Vision boards are like sometimes
Speaker 1: they're just like too much for her, and it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like too polarizing almost, And so what she'll do
Speaker 1: is she'll create a mood board where it's not so
Speaker 1: much about like physical goals or like these great big goals.
Speaker 2: But it's like just the vibe.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just the vibe, the vie and it just
Speaker 4: kind of you know, makes her feel good and like
Speaker 4: motivates her.
Speaker 2: But it's like nothing crazy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And like I feel like a lot of people
Speaker 4: feel or might think they need a dream job and
Speaker 4: an end goal and when they get there, they're done.
Speaker 4: But what happens if you get there in the next
Speaker 4: two years? What are you going to do after that?
Speaker 2: You can't get the next bit?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can't set your whole life based on wanting
Speaker 4: specific things all the time, and don't make that your
Speaker 4: whole identity. Yeah, just have a feeling that you think
Speaker 4: about how you want to feel rather than what you
Speaker 4: want to have, and then make that mood board.
Speaker 1: Well that's even like when I got pregnant, because it
Speaker 1: was like, honestly the first time in my life that
Speaker 1: I was like, I want to do the opposite of
Speaker 1: achieving things and I want to just do less. And
Speaker 1: even though that you actually did so much more.
Speaker 4: Because I like, I'm gonna have no time, I know,
Speaker 4: I like, well, I.
Speaker 1: Had to prep for maternity leave that I honestly didn't
Speaker 1: even take, and then like so many opportunities come up
Speaker 1: because I was pregnant, like with the pedal and PUK
Speaker 1: collab and stuff like that, so.
Speaker 2: It was actually so busy.
Speaker 1: But anyway, what I'm trying to say is like it
Speaker 1: was a season where I was just like, I am
Speaker 1: so happy and content and I just do not care
Speaker 1: about like achieving goals. I just am so here to
Speaker 1: just enjoy, to just enjoy it. But then there's you know,
Speaker 1: previous seasons where I'm like, I want you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to be a thirty under thirty you know,
Speaker 1: don't know? All, yes, that's actually on my vision board,
Speaker 1: is it?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh my god, I'm putting it on mine.
Speaker 1: Oh guys, I actually need to create a new vision
Speaker 1: board now that I'm a mom, and I just like
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm a different person, and yeah, that's
Speaker 1: something we should do in the office. Sit here too
Speaker 1: for the potty, like a vision board for the potty. Yeah, guys,
Speaker 1: should we do like a vision board episode? Should we
Speaker 1: do like a vision board live call?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: Like with the listeners? Yeah, this is funny.
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm getting away off topic, Jimmy, Sorry, no, leave
Speaker 4: it in, Jamie.
Speaker 2: Let us know, jump on our DMS.
Speaker 1: So I think, like, in conclusion, this person, I know,
Speaker 1: I get the feeling that she is constantly wanting more. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I would just say, that's great, You're doing amazing.
Speaker 2: Don't feel guilty. Don't feel guilty.
Speaker 1: Maybe you just need to practice gratitude a little bit more.
Speaker 2: And also, I don't know.
Speaker 1: My thing right now is I feel like a lot
Speaker 1: of people younger than me. What's like the generation before me?
Speaker 1: A tear before you or after after?
Speaker 4: Gen Z? What am I gen y millennial?
Speaker 2: I'm a millennial? Yeah, I think, so what are you?
Speaker 2: I'm gen Z?
Speaker 1: Okay, gen Z, I this is going to be like
Speaker 1: joen Z, but I reckon jen Z. Like a huge
Speaker 1: thing that I'm all about is delayed gratification, yes, which
Speaker 1: we are not. I love delayed gratification, like I am
Speaker 1: so happy to work on something for years before actually
Speaker 1: getting the feeling, and I feel like that's something that
Speaker 1: maybe this person needs to relish in, like the becoming,
Speaker 1: Like I love relishing in the becoming and like the doing,
Speaker 1: and that's the ship that honestly lights me up.
Speaker 2: Not the end goal. I mean that would be And
Speaker 2: that's why I'm.
Speaker 1: A sicko who has all these goals all the time,
Speaker 1: because it's not so much about the goal ground, it's.
Speaker 2: The work to the goals.
Speaker 4: I actually think that would be an interesting thing to
Speaker 4: dive into because gratification gen Z has been put on
Speaker 4: the list conditioned to no like not now I'm like
Speaker 4: ready to time. Gen Z's been conditioned to need instant
Speaker 4: gratification like social media Instagram and now TikTok is just
Speaker 4: it's it's taking that gratification length and just shortening it consistently.
Speaker 4: And I don't know how much shorter it can get,
Speaker 4: but just learning and don't feel pressured to practice gratitude
Speaker 4: the way you think you should be doing it.
Speaker 2: It can be as.
Speaker 4: Simple as just dancing around the house and being like
Speaker 4: I love my.
Speaker 1: Life, being in the present, just endure a diary.
Speaker 2: I love my life. Here are the five I'm grateful for. No,
Speaker 2: have you seen that TikTok?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm going to have to play it
Speaker 2: right now. I love my diary, I love my life.
Speaker 2: I can't say I see this single TikTok with that sound.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: So what they do is they do dear diary, I
Speaker 1: love my life. And then there's a whole bunch of
Speaker 1: snippets of like cool things they're doing.
Speaker 2: That's a way to make one of them a week.
Speaker 1: It's like you look back at your week, you're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: not not really a vibe, but anyway, we got on
Speaker 1: a tangent. But yeah, yeah, I think you can do both.
Speaker 1: And I think also this person has a lot of
Speaker 1: guilt around wanting more, and I say, fuck that, No,
Speaker 1: you can want more and it's okay.
Speaker 2: But also, relish in the becunning becunning.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, relish in the becoming, because that's where the
Speaker 1: good shit is, all right, Atya, thanks so much for
Speaker 1: joining me in this Georgie's Hotline episode. I appreciated your
Speaker 1: little tidbits of advice.
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: It's good to like actually chat to someone to know
Speaker 1: that what I'm thinking.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just not like a monologue talking to the wall.
Speaker 2: Beg guys.
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