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Speaker 1: Good morning and welcome to Monday. It's Zara here from

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Speaker 1: the Daily OS. I'm joined by Sam and today we're

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Speaker 1: taking you through the day's news. Before we get into that,

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Speaker 1: a quick wrap up of the COVID numbers from the weekend.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday.

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Speaker 1: In New South Wales we dipped below a thousand months

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Speaker 1: again with nine hundred and sixty one cases. In Victoria

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Speaker 1: there were seven hundred and seventy nine cases, with the

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Speaker 1: gap between Victoria and New South Wales closing quite quickly.

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Speaker 1: In the Act there were twenty five new cases as

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Speaker 1: those case numbers remain stubborn. Sam, take me through what

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Speaker 1: else we've found out yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Firstly, a massive shout out to all Melbourne Demons fans.

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Speaker 3: I hope you are still basking in the glory of

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Speaker 3: your win on Saturday night. The good times kept rolling

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Speaker 3: for a lot of Victoria yesterday. Greater Geelong and the

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Speaker 3: Surf Coast LGA exited lockdown yesterday at eleven fifty nine pm. However,

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Speaker 3: the mitchell Shire will remain in lockdown. The lack of

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Speaker 3: major exposure sites and high rates of testing has prompted

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Speaker 3: the lockdown restrictions to lift. So well done you guys.

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Speaker 3: All three regions went into lockdown last Sunday after positive

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Speaker 3: COVID nineteen cases emerged.

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Speaker 1: Last week, we found out that a person who had

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Speaker 1: attended the Melbourne protests had tested positive, and now there

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Speaker 1: is a second case that has emerged. Victorian COVID nineteen

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Speaker 1: commander Jerome Weimar said that the man who tested positive

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Speaker 1: would have been at that protest during his infectious period,

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Speaker 1: but considering the stage of the person's infection, it's unlikely

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Speaker 1: he caught the virus at the protest. The other case

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Speaker 1: that we know about was reported to be in hospital,

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Speaker 1: but not in ICU.

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Speaker 3: T some overseas news and Norway has listed all COVID

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Speaker 3: nineteen related domestic restrictions over the weekend. Civilians are no

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Speaker 3: longer acquired to socially distanced and all culture and sport venues,

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Speaker 3: restaurants and nightclubs are open at full capacity. Around seventy

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Speaker 3: six percent of all Norwegians have received at least one

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Speaker 1: Some good news courtesy of Hawaii so the The US

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Speaker 1: state of Hawaii has committed to plant and restore one

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Speaker 1: hundred million trees throughout the state by twenty thirty. The

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Speaker 1: commitment is part of the World Economic Forums initiative to

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Speaker 1: conserve one trillion trees around the globe in an effort

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Speaker 1: to combat global warming. The State Department of Land and

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Speaker 1: Natural Resources said it will focus on protecting existing forests

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Speaker 1: and planting trees in rural and urban areas.

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Speaker 3: What a weekend of sport it was. We had, of course,

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Speaker 3: and we're looking ahead to the Grand Final next weekend.

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Speaker 3: There was also some rugby union. There was also plenty

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Speaker 3: of overseas sport. There is a lot happening in the

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Speaker 3: sporting world and we thought it was a good opportunity

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Speaker 3: today to talk to the CEO of Pride Cup. Pride

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Speaker 3: Cup celebrates inclusion and diversity for LGBTI people in sport.

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Speaker 3: They facilitate the holding of a Pride Cup across any

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Speaker 3: of the sports and we were really fortunate to talk

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Speaker 3: to their CEO, James Lolcito. Today, sport is often the

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Speaker 3: precursor of social change. And it's a fascinating nexus between

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Speaker 3: social issues and where we come together. James, thank you

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Speaker 3: so much for joining us today. We have had a

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Speaker 3: massive three months of sport. We've had the Olympics, the

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Speaker 3: Paralympics and now the final series for our big rugby

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Speaker 3: and football codes. Tell me how you're feeling about the

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Speaker 3: last few months of incredible sporting performances.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. Look, it's a hard time

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Speaker 3: We've just had an incredible month of sport with the

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Speaker 3: Olympics and the Paralympics. Give us an idea of where

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Speaker 3: we're at in terms of LGBTQI rights in sport.

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Speaker 2: It's actually we did, as you said, have a great

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Speaker 2: Olympic season, and Australia did so well. And watching the Olympics,

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Speaker 2: I was really proud of how many out openly gay

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Speaker 2: still really important to note that yes, we were seeing

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Speaker 2: some great engagement for ALGEBTI athletes, but there was still

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Speaker 2: work to happen. And even though we were seeing some

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Speaker 3: Can you quickly run me through what Pride Cup does,

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Speaker 3: So you've highlighted an issue there, such as representation in

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Speaker 3: the Olympics. Where are your touch points with influencing the discussions?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so Pride Cup runs ALGEBTI themed games in community

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Speaker 2: sporting clubs across Australia, So we really focus on regional

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Speaker 2: do is make the sports club, which has typically been

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Speaker 2: and transphobia, and we try to turn that around and

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Speaker 2: be that centerpoint for their community in ALGEBTI inclusion and

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Speaker 2: play sport, because we know so many ALGEBTI people aren't

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Speaker 3: Are there some sports that you've seen really lead the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so, well, we know overall that there's around four

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Speaker 2: and a half million people throughout Australia who identify as ALGEBTI.

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Speaker 2: Only around six percent of young ALGEBTI people are involved

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Speaker 2: They're thinking about who we can get engaged and looking

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Speaker 2: they can be that as volunteers, as players, even to

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Speaker 2: watch the game from the sidelines. But our older sports,

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Speaker 3: I'm really interested in thinking about with social change in sport,

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Speaker 3: like you guys so excellently execute. Do you think it's

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Speaker 2: It doesn't work one way or the other. It only

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Speaker 2: It's all well and good for a sporting clasp in

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Speaker 2: truly accepting an inclusive of LGBTI participants, But then if

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Speaker 2: So it really involves a bottom up, top down approach

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Speaker 2: to really be those champions of change that we need

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Speaker 3: One of the most high profile events that jump out

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Speaker 3: game between the Sydney Swans and Sint Kilda. As a

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Speaker 3: Do we need to be seeing more of that kind

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Speaker 3: that we need to go beyond that. What's your kind

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Speaker 2: Well, the fact that you just said it's a great

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Speaker 2: thing to watch it opens up the conversation in households

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Speaker 2: that haven't started those conversations. It also provides visibility with

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Speaker 2: the rainbow on the field, that rainbow being that first

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Speaker 2: to answer questions about why it's important really starts that

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Speaker 2: conversation that is so needed in sport and that's what

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Speaker 2: those games need to do. They need to start the

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Speaker 2: in some way. Even though none of those players are

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Speaker 2: yet openly gay, they're still there representing the LGBTI community

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Speaker 2: and saying this is a safe place for you, and

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Speaker 2: we definitely need to see that happen more and more.

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Speaker 2: Across Australia. Around seventy five percent of ALGEBTI people won't

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Speaker 2: So how are we ever going to get them to

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Speaker 3: Do you guys get support from the government for what

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Speaker 2: We do. Look, the Victorian government gives us a lot

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Speaker 2: we're not getting that federal support that's needed. I think

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Speaker 2: a lot of people still don't see that sport even

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Speaker 2: sport as a tool as a solution for not just

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Speaker 2: LGBTI inclusion, but also indigenous inclusion, also representation of newly

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Speaker 2: Sport can be that real bastion and champion of change

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Speaker 2: to make sure everybody feels included. Because once you start

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Speaker 2: seeing it on a sporting field ninety nine percent of

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Speaker 3: Last question from me, James, You've dedicated your professional career

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Speaker 3: to fronting this organization and I'm sure it takes up,

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Speaker 3: you know, a great majority of your time in your week.

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Speaker 3: Why sport? Why not put these efforts into music or policy?

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Speaker 3: What does sport do for you?

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Speaker 2: It all comes from personal experience. For me, sport was

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Speaker 2: somewhere as a young person being openly gay, never felt included.

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Speaker 2: Homophobic comments were thrown around more than what the ball

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Speaker 2: even though some of those comments weren't directly used at me,

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Speaker 2: they were used at me. I was hearing it, and

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Speaker 2: I every single time I heard one of those comments,

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Speaker 2: And knowing that so many kids feel the same way

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Speaker 2: All four and a half million LGBTI Australians need that

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Speaker 3: And if people want to find out more about Pride

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Speaker 2: Head onto our website Pride Cup dot org dot au.

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Speaker 3: a wonderful rest of the day.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: That was James Losito from Pride Cup. If you want

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