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Speaker 1: So I can't even imagine what it's like then when

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Thank you, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Stephanie, and all the best to you guys while

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure it will be. I mean it already

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Speaker 1: I reckon it will be.

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Speaker 2: And I just want to shout out to the committee,

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Speaker 2: They are amazing. They've done so much work. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all good stuff. Stephanie, thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Katie, thank you