WEBVTT - ALEX MAVROIDAKIS KNOWS LOVE ISLAND IS CONTENT! 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:01.720 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.800 --> 0:00:03.600 TV Reload the podcast. 0:00:03.200 --> 0:00:04.040 Last week airline. 0:00:04.559 --> 0:00:07.680 Welcome back to TV Reload. My name is Benjamin Norris, 0:00:07.720 --> 0:00:10.640 and on this podcast I go behind the scenes with 0:00:10.760 --> 0:00:14.120 the biggest players in television. Each episode you will get 0:00:14.160 --> 0:00:18.759 a front row seat with content makers like executive producers, writers, 0:00:18.960 --> 0:00:22.200 editors and casting agents, plus the talent that we see 0:00:22.239 --> 0:00:25.639 on our screens. 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You can thank me for 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:06.200 it later, which I'm sure you will. So why should 0:01:06.240 --> 0:01:09.360 you watch Love Island? Well, I'm glad you asked. This 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:12.679 group of singles are TV gold so good looking? The 0:01:12.720 --> 0:01:16.120 show is back in Spain. But also, nothing works if 0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:19.400 you don't understand the assignment, and that's something that ITV 0:01:19.560 --> 0:01:23.160 clearly knows a lot about. It is funny, it is sexy. 0:01:23.400 --> 0:01:25.760 It is the best guilty pleasure outside of your own 0:01:25.800 --> 0:01:29.240 shenanigans in the bedroom. Maybe the show could be full playing. 0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:31.560 I'm not going to judge you if that's the case. 0:01:32.080 --> 0:01:35.839 We will talk about the contestants going on OnlyFans after 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:38.399 their time on the show, and what Alex thinks of that. 0:01:38.880 --> 0:01:40.840 We will find out what he looks for in your 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:44.000 audition videos. I will get some exclusives on the next 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:46.840 I'm a celebrity, Get me out of here. Honestly, I 0:01:46.920 --> 0:01:49.840 ask Alex pretty much everything, and he gives genuine answers, 0:01:49.880 --> 0:01:53.680 which most people at his level totally wouldn't. However, let's 0:01:53.680 --> 0:01:56.840 get started with today's guest. I'd like to welcome returning 0:01:56.880 --> 0:02:00.560 favorite to the podcast, executive producer Alex Madvertt to a 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:01.320 TV reload. 0:02:03.320 --> 0:02:05.960 Love On is not a television show. Love On is content. 0:02:06.320 --> 0:02:08.320 Love Island is back. 0:02:08.760 --> 0:02:11.480 You'll notice from episode one there's like twenty seven times 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:14.360 more abs and ours shots in the previous series. The 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:17.440 Islanders are ready for their biggest challenge since writing their 0:02:17.520 --> 0:02:20.760 names on the application. I think we draw the line 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:23.200 at full penetrative six. 0:02:23.440 --> 0:02:25.000 Do you like the view? And I'm not talking about 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:28.119 Spain the girls here, Yeah, they're pretty good, to be honest, 0:02:28.120 --> 0:02:28.960 if I'm pretty happy with. 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:32.800 It one hundred percent. People see this is a pathway 0:02:32.800 --> 0:02:34.720 to grow the things, and I'm completely fine with that. 0:02:34.800 --> 0:02:36.880 If you have a better connection with someone else, I 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:40.280 want you to pursue someone else. The worst that can 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:41.680 happen is you're going to be on TV for a 0:02:41.680 --> 0:02:43.400 bit and you're going to go home and go back 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:44.280 to normal jobs. 0:02:44.440 --> 0:02:47.440 Hey mate, thanks for coming back on the podcast three times. 0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:50.520 People are going to start talking about us, which which 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:53.239 you might be all right with. I'm okay with I'm 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:54.040 okay with it too. 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:56.520 Well. When you work on. 0:02:56.520 --> 0:02:59.959 Two of the year's biggest television staples, it's really hard 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:00.680 to ignore you. 0:03:00.840 --> 0:03:03.400 Thank you, mate. I appreciate that they are the pretty 0:03:03.400 --> 0:03:05.560 good shows. I still love them. Dearly me. 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:07.920 Here we are talking about Love Island twenty twenty two. 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:09.840 How was the shoot in Spain? 0:03:10.200 --> 0:03:13.640 Look? Every single EP will tell you that this show 0:03:13.720 --> 0:03:16.200 is brilliant, all right. There's not a single ep that 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:19.200 will come on a podcast and say, don't bother watching it. 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:21.560 It's shit, So I'm not going to buck the trend. 0:03:21.760 --> 0:03:25.639 It is an absolute ripper, and I actually mean that. 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:28.800 I think it's the best season of Love On we've made. 0:03:29.000 --> 0:03:30.839 I'm going to say that it's one of the best 0:03:30.840 --> 0:03:34.120 seasons of Love Old I've seen across the world. That's 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:38.560 so much drama, so much funny, and of course it's 0:03:38.560 --> 0:03:41.120 all different because it's pre recorded, which obviously it had 0:03:41.160 --> 0:03:43.160 to be because nine wanted it on at this time 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:44.440 of the year, and at this time of the year, 0:03:44.520 --> 0:03:47.480 if we filmed in Spain, we'd be wearing snowjackets instead 0:03:47.480 --> 0:03:50.200 of bikini so we had to pre record it. And 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:52.160 that was a bit scary for us all because obviously 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:54.360 it's the first ever pre recorded Love Old anywhere in 0:03:54.360 --> 0:03:56.640 the world. But you know what, it feels the same, 0:03:56.680 --> 0:03:59.760 it looks the same. We still shoot an episode of day, 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:02.400 we still edit an episode a day, so it is 0:04:02.480 --> 0:04:04.480 basically exactly the same. The only thing we had to 0:04:04.520 --> 0:04:07.600 do differently was the audience voting. But in all honesty, 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:09.760 we're going to cop a few comments, you know, why 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:12.920 can't we vote? But ninety five percent, I'm going to 0:04:12.920 --> 0:04:16.159 say even ninety seven percent, probably ninety nine percent of 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:18.039 people watch Love Island on catch up. You know, we 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:21.280 know that we don't rate well on television. We rate 0:04:21.320 --> 0:04:24.040 well on catch up people watching it on their phones 0:04:24.120 --> 0:04:26.359 or on their iPads or on the train or whenever. 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:30.120 And so really hardly anyone voted, let's be honest about it. 0:04:30.200 --> 0:04:32.880 So we did a social post a few months ago 0:04:32.960 --> 0:04:36.520 and called for super fans, which is, you know, Love 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:39.960 Island tragics, die hard fans that know everything about the show, 0:04:40.320 --> 0:04:42.600 and we enlisted a whole load of them, and we 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:45.200 got them a feed of the villa and basically got 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:48.039 them to do the voting for us. So for anybody 0:04:48.120 --> 0:04:50.799 watching it, it feels exactly the same. The only difference 0:04:50.839 --> 0:04:54.280 is we're screening it now, so I've only seen eleven 0:04:54.320 --> 0:04:57.279 epps as twenty nine episodes, and I've only watched eleven 0:04:57.320 --> 0:04:59.279 of them so far, because we're still cutting it now, 0:04:59.600 --> 0:05:02.360 one day at a time, and it is so good, 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:05.480 Like honestly, I look forward to eight o'clock every morning 0:05:05.480 --> 0:05:07.760 when I have my daily screenings because it is a 0:05:07.800 --> 0:05:10.360 cracking series. You are honestly, if anyone listening to this 0:05:10.640 --> 0:05:12.200 that's about to watch it, well, you know you may 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:14.440 have even watched the first couple of episodes. It's a 0:05:14.440 --> 0:05:16.200 really great series, very excited. 0:05:16.520 --> 0:05:20.680 This season looks super polished, like it doesn't miss a beat. 0:05:20.800 --> 0:05:23.760 The ingredients seemed to be, I don't know, working better 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:26.200 this year than any other. Am I right by saying that. 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:28.880 Yeah, look, it's it's it's experience. You know, we've got 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:33.440 the cast really right. Everybody shines. They're so bloody hot 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:36.599 it's just stupid. But you know they're not just vapp 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:39.400 it hot there. They can actually all talk that everybody 0:05:39.440 --> 0:05:42.320 has past the talk test, and yes this is the 0:05:42.320 --> 0:05:45.599 first time in this villa. So it's always hard to 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:48.200 find your feet, and you know, for anybody watching, you 0:05:48.279 --> 0:05:50.800 might even notice in episodes one and two, you know 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:52.760 we miss a few shots here and there. But by 0:05:52.800 --> 0:05:54.920 episode three and four, we you know, we find our 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:56.719 feet and the directors know what they're cutting, and the 0:05:56.720 --> 0:05:59.599 producers nowhere the islanders going to kind of migrate to 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:02.320 and it just finds its feet. So it looks it 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:04.839 looks polished because it's in Spain. You know, I'm not 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:07.640 gonna lie. We did season one in Spain and it 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:11.600 looked bloody fantastic, and then we thought we'd try Fiji 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:13.560 because it's closer to home and it stopped everyone for 0:06:13.560 --> 0:06:16.039 having to travel halfway across the universe. And you know, 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:18.280 it was a good series, but it just didn't feel 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:20.120 the same. And then of course COVID hit and we 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:22.880 had to do one in Byron, and I thought it 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:24.719 was just so good to get back to Spain because 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:28.440 everything just looks you know, that kind of eight pm 0:06:28.560 --> 0:06:32.520 magic hour sunset just makes everybody look hot. I mean 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:35.000 even I was taking selfies and I'm not hot at all, 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:37.960 and even pictures, so I mean, Christ, if it can 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:39.880 make me look good, then Spain rules. 0:06:40.120 --> 0:06:43.839 I'm not gonna lie. Honestly, the first season, I'm just 0:06:43.880 --> 0:06:46.920 a huge fan. It's one of my favorite reality seasons. 0:06:46.960 --> 0:06:50.800 Season two and season three for me, weren't as good. However, 0:06:50.880 --> 0:06:54.320 watching the first few episodes of this year, it's back 0:06:54.360 --> 0:06:56.320 to form. But I think it's going to be better 0:06:56.360 --> 0:06:58.240 than season one. I think you are right. I think 0:06:58.279 --> 0:07:01.159 you have, you know, been able to deliver something that 0:07:01.320 --> 0:07:04.440 is going to outshine all Love islands from around the world. 0:07:04.640 --> 0:07:06.359 And I think it has to do with the cast. 0:07:06.440 --> 0:07:09.160 I think the cast are electric. I think they're really fun. 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:11.320 And all I want to know is like, did you 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:14.040 have a different process with casting this year? Like why 0:07:14.120 --> 0:07:16.440 is the cast so much better than any other year 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:17.200 we've seen before? 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:24.680 Look, No, different process, Like certainly myself, Caroline Williams, the 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:29.200 other co executive producer, Josie Steele, the serious producer, had 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:33.600 a very big hand in picking the cast this time, 0:07:33.640 --> 0:07:37.280 more so than more so than before. We found a 0:07:37.400 --> 0:07:40.080 really good way to pitch them to Channel nine, because 0:07:40.360 --> 0:07:42.600 it's always it's great finding lots of great people, but 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:44.080 then you know, you've got to kind of get them 0:07:44.120 --> 0:07:47.280 past the network and kind of persuade them that you know, 0:07:47.320 --> 0:07:49.440 these people that we've met are amazing. And we had 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:53.080 a really good production crew that cut these little videos 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:55.480 to you know, commercial tracks, and we were able to 0:07:55.560 --> 0:07:57.680 sell the cast that we wanted in and you know, 0:07:57.720 --> 0:08:00.920 we didn't have many people that we argued about, like 0:08:00.960 --> 0:08:03.800 you know, we we knew, I mean, so many people 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:05.680 in this in this year's cast, and you guys will 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:08.560 get to know them, but you know, Callum for example, Austin, 0:08:08.920 --> 0:08:13.560 Claudia Laylor, Jordan, you know the second they walked in 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:17.040 the room in their various states, I knew that they 0:08:17.040 --> 0:08:19.760 were an islander within you know, within fifteen seconds they 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:22.880 just popped so hard. And then the only job after 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:25.239 that is to cut the little videos that you film 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:28.360 on those days well enough to persuade the network that 0:08:28.440 --> 0:08:30.320 they are as good as we thought they were. And 0:08:30.520 --> 0:08:32.640 you know, for once, we got it right. Because you know, 0:08:32.880 --> 0:08:36.120 going right back to Big Brother, every single year you 0:08:36.160 --> 0:08:38.920 meet people and you go, this guy or this girl 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:42.319 are amazing, and every single year you get you get 0:08:42.360 --> 0:08:44.760 a few wrong. I mean, you know, I'm going to again, 0:08:44.800 --> 0:08:46.600 going right back to Big Brother, there's not a single 0:08:46.640 --> 0:08:49.160 season under my when I was in charge of it 0:08:49.480 --> 0:08:51.840 where there wasn't one or two people that we thought, oh, 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:53.400 you know, they weren't as good as we thought they 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:55.520 were going to be casting. And it's same with I'm 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:57.679 a celeb. You know, like you pick celebrities that you 0:08:57.760 --> 0:08:59.880 think are going to knock it out the park, and 0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:02.320 a few of them will always disappoint you. And in 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:04.360 the first three seasons of Love On, you know, we've 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:06.160 definitely got a few wrong. And obviously I'm not going 0:09:06.200 --> 0:09:08.520 to mention any names, but it's pretty obvious when you 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:11.120 watch a show who is who pops and who's a 0:09:11.120 --> 0:09:13.559 little bit underpar I don't think we've got anyone wrong 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:16.280 this series, and that is a really rare thing to say, 0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:18.840 and it obviously makes me feel really good. We didn't 0:09:18.840 --> 0:09:21.200 do anything different, We just we just went really hard. 0:09:21.240 --> 0:09:23.199 And I also think this is a really weird one, 0:09:23.200 --> 0:09:26.080 but I think during COVID a lot of kind of 0:09:26.640 --> 0:09:31.040 people were forced to use social media and talking to 0:09:31.080 --> 0:09:33.120 camera a lot more now, whether that is just zoom 0:09:33.160 --> 0:09:37.400 calls or you know, Insta stories or TikTok or whatever. 0:09:37.960 --> 0:09:40.520 But we've got this whole new legion of you know, 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:43.600 nineteen to twenty four year olds or probably even younger 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:45.880 than that, probably like fourteen upwards. Obviously, we're not going 0:09:45.920 --> 0:09:47.679 to have anyone that young on the show who are 0:09:47.720 --> 0:09:51.280 suddenly brilliant on camera, and that is because that's how 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:54.520 they've how they've grown up. It used to be back 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:57.480 in twenty twelve when cast you One Big Brother. But 0:09:57.520 --> 0:10:00.240 you know, it's not like we had a million options. 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:02.640 We probably had twenty five people that were good enough 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:05.480 to go in the house. This year, we probably had 0:10:05.480 --> 0:10:07.080 one hundred and twenty five people that were good enough 0:10:07.120 --> 0:10:09.079 to go in the villa. It was just working out 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:10.720 which one should go in because I just think people 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:12.400 are just more confident on camera. Now. 0:10:12.600 --> 0:10:14.440 Well, you predicted this, I mean we talked about this 0:10:14.480 --> 0:10:16.160 a few years ago and you were like, you know, 0:10:16.240 --> 0:10:19.360 with the nature of social media and people creating their 0:10:19.400 --> 0:10:22.000 own content, they're their own producers. They know what lands, 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:24.160 they know what looks good on camera. You know, they 0:10:24.200 --> 0:10:26.360 know what's going to be shared. So I mean you 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:28.400 said that three years ago so and you were like, 0:10:29.160 --> 0:10:31.680 but imagine what it's going to be like soon when 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:34.000 these kids are old enough, you know, and how they 0:10:34.040 --> 0:10:36.360 are old enough, and now you do have access to them. 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:39.600 And I mean, Cassidy's still my favorite contestant in Love 0:10:39.640 --> 0:10:42.360 Island Australia so far. And I feel like you've made 0:10:42.760 --> 0:10:45.440 You've found like at least five Cassidys in this season 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:48.160 that are going to be the type of people who 0:10:48.160 --> 0:10:50.640 were bat you crazy enough to have, you know, a 0:10:51.520 --> 0:10:54.480 full relationship that normally would happen in real life over 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:57.760 a year, seemed to happen within twenty four hours, you 0:10:57.760 --> 0:10:58.240 know what I mean. 0:10:58.400 --> 0:10:59.520 Fall in last, have. 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:02.080 Them break you hard, you know, try and get over them. 0:11:02.120 --> 0:11:04.760 Find someone new like that's the kind of dynamic that 0:11:04.800 --> 0:11:06.320 you want from these types of people. 0:11:06.800 --> 0:11:10.520 People that have you know, completely got their ships together 0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:13.880 are not generally the best reality TV contestants. You know. 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:16.679 You want people that are you know, slightly haven't got 0:11:16.679 --> 0:11:18.360 all their ship together, not in a terrible way, in 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:21.319 a fun way, but what's what's the fun of you know, 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:23.240 what's what's the fun and watching a whole load of 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:27.280 really well rounded, completely level headed people. You want. You 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:30.320 want people that go in with a few issues. That's 0:11:30.600 --> 0:11:31.440 that's the good stuff. 0:11:32.640 --> 0:11:35.200 You know, with a show like this, everyone wants to know, 0:11:35.280 --> 0:11:37.400 you know, what, what are the producers want for me? 0:11:37.800 --> 0:11:39.800 And so people probably listen to this next year when 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:42.440 you're making the next season, But what exactly are you 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:44.760 looking for? Because they all want to They all contact 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:47.720 me on Facebook when applying for different reality shows and 0:11:47.800 --> 0:11:50.160 say what a producers want? And over time I've got 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:52.480 my own little notes on what I think. You know, 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:54.839 Jewels wants for the Block and you want for Love 0:11:54.920 --> 0:11:57.120 Island or Army Celebrity and I kind of worked these 0:11:57.160 --> 0:11:59.839 things out. But for you particularly, is it just the 0:12:00.320 --> 0:12:02.760 is it just the aesthetic or what are the things 0:12:02.800 --> 0:12:04.400 that what are the touch points. 0:12:04.080 --> 0:12:04.679 Did you looking for? 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:06.679 I can tell you one hundred percent, it's not just 0:12:06.720 --> 0:12:08.560 a look now, of course, of course that of course 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:10.720 they need to be amazingly good looking for Love Island. 0:12:10.960 --> 0:12:13.200 We chucked out a guy this year. We didn't even 0:12:13.200 --> 0:12:14.959 invite into the casting tour. Clearly, I'm not going to 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:17.440 mention the name here, but and who will never know 0:12:17.480 --> 0:12:19.800 that I'm talking about him? But we did a zoom 0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:21.520 call with a guy and we looked at his Instagram 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:24.040 and he applied for the show, and honestly, the girls 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:26.240 in the office and some of the guys were just like, 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:29.160 this is the best looking man I've ever seen in 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:31.559 my life. And I was two. I was just looking 0:12:31.640 --> 0:12:35.320 and going, were you chiseled by the gods? Because there 0:12:35.400 --> 0:12:38.920 is nothing like there is not one part of your 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:42.199 body or face that isn't perfect. He was the best 0:12:42.240 --> 0:12:45.040 looking man I've ever seen. The poor bustard couldn't string 0:12:45.080 --> 0:12:47.640 two words together. So it is not just about the look. 0:12:47.640 --> 0:12:50.280 We didn't even bother taking him on the turk. If 0:12:50.320 --> 0:12:53.280 you can't pass the talk test, there is no point 0:12:53.640 --> 0:12:56.480 in turning up to a twenty four hour turnaround reality 0:12:56.520 --> 0:12:58.920 TV show where this camera's pointing at you all day, 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:02.880 and we our thirst for content is so high. The 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:05.280 answer to your question is they need to be entertaining. 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:07.959 And Duels from the Block and Tara from Maths and 0:13:08.360 --> 0:13:10.920 everybody across all of the reality shows will tell you 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:13.960 the same thing. Now, clearly everybody has different needs and 0:13:14.000 --> 0:13:16.880 different wants for their particular show. I'm very lucky in 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:20.320 the respect that Love Island is made with its tongue 0:13:20.320 --> 0:13:24.400 and it's cheap. You know, it's it's fun. Nobody comes 0:13:24.400 --> 0:13:27.960 on Loveland thinking it's the biggest social experiment in the world. 0:13:28.600 --> 0:13:31.480 I am so upfront with all of the Islanders right 0:13:32.000 --> 0:13:33.880 right from the start, and I say, we will take 0:13:33.920 --> 0:13:36.120 the piss out of you, and we will take the 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:38.720 piss out of ourselves. And that is how we produce 0:13:38.800 --> 0:13:41.400 this show, and we make no apology for it. Loveland 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:45.320 is pure entertainment and if you're down with that, then 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:47.800 you are very welcome to come on this show. And 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:49.880 it's that kind of honesty and obviously all of the 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:53.600 screening that we do beforehand with them that lets us 0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:56.760 know that they are robust enough and mentally tough enough 0:13:56.800 --> 0:13:59.760 to go through this experience, which is also a huge 0:13:59.760 --> 0:14:01.640 part of what we need for a show like Loveland, 0:14:01.679 --> 0:14:03.920 because unlike The Block, and unlike Married at First Site, 0:14:03.920 --> 0:14:06.720 and unlike The Bachelor, and unlike everything else, there are 0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:10.000 production breaks. You know, you go home at night, you 0:14:10.040 --> 0:14:12.400 can check your phone, you can do all that stuff. 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:15.760 On Love Island, you go through this massive audition process. 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:18.520 You then go into a villa where you are filmed 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:21.760 twenty four hours a day. The very nature of the 0:14:21.760 --> 0:14:24.240 format is you are going to be rejected by people, 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:27.680 and you're going to be dumped at some point almost certainly. 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:30.280 Then after you've finished in the villa, you're going to 0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:33.280 have to deal with dickheads online saying, oh she's not 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:36.240 very hot, or he's a fucking idiot, or I don't 0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:39.560 like their face, or my god, look at their wonky nose. 0:14:39.640 --> 0:14:43.120 And in order to deal with all of that stuff, 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:46.880 you have got to be an incredibly tough person. And 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:50.640 so that's what we need because I'm incredibly proud of 0:14:50.680 --> 0:14:54.040 the fact that of the eighty odd Big Brother housemates, 0:14:54.360 --> 0:14:58.360 two hundred odd I'm a celebrity, celebrities, and one hundred 0:14:58.400 --> 0:15:01.360 odd Love Island islands that I've had to deal with. 0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:03.880 It been on my shows I haven't had a serious 0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:06.760 issue with any of them, and I believe that's because 0:15:06.760 --> 0:15:12.040 we we edit fairly. It's all of those shows were made, 0:15:12.160 --> 0:15:14.720 you know, with fun first. You know, we didn't pretend 0:15:14.760 --> 0:15:16.960 to be something that we weren't. There entertainment shows, that's 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:19.040 what we were making, and we were upfront with them, 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:20.640 not from the start. You know, I sat down and 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:23.680 you probably remember this chat, you know, sat down and said, 0:15:23.760 --> 0:15:25.800 what you're about to go through is fun. This is 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:28.080 a fun experience. What's the worst that can happen. The 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:29.440 worst that can happen is you're going to be on 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:31.240 TV for a bit and you're going to go home 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:33.240 and go back to your normal job. That's the worst 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:34.800 that can happen. Best that can happen is how you 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:37.000 can win some money or find a girlfriend or you know, 0:15:37.040 --> 0:15:39.120 whatever it is that you're on the show for. But 0:15:39.160 --> 0:15:41.360 nothing bad can happen. I think if you're honest with them, 0:15:41.440 --> 0:15:43.880 with these people right from the start, it will help massively. 0:15:43.920 --> 0:15:46.000 And that's the way we've always played it. 0:15:46.120 --> 0:15:48.640 I have spoken to so many people in the industry, 0:15:48.720 --> 0:15:51.000 you know, people the contestants off your shows come on 0:15:51.000 --> 0:15:52.960 the podcast, so I speak to them. I run into 0:15:52.960 --> 0:15:54.680 them in the pubs, the clubs, or wherever it is 0:15:54.680 --> 0:15:56.960 that I'm out and about, and I've never heard anyone 0:15:57.000 --> 0:16:00.360 say anything bad about you behind your back either, Like 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:02.760 you might be in the top chair and you might 0:16:02.800 --> 0:16:06.560 be just maybe a little bit deluded and think you're amazing, 0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:08.960 But I can honestly give you that feedback. But the 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:11.800 affection and the affinity that goes with it comes down 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:14.680 to trust, and I think we've talked about that before 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:17.960 and I think that's the that's the biggest currency in 0:16:18.000 --> 0:16:20.320 television at the moment, is getting people to be on 0:16:20.360 --> 0:16:23.280 television with a lot of trust there, because if that's there, 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:25.200 you're getting the best out of them and you're doing 0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:25.800 your job right. 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:28.400 That's that's lovely to hear. Look, I have no doubt 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:31.920 that people do say things by the back, but well 0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:34.360 for the beast, and you know, I'm a big enough 0:16:34.400 --> 0:16:36.000 boy to cop that. You know, a lot of this 0:16:36.040 --> 0:16:39.160 comes down to you know, Tajalla Jela Webster in the 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:41.240 way she cuts these shows as well. I really do 0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:44.120 believe that everybody gets you know, the fair edit and 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:46.160 I talked about this a bit, but you know, we 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:48.240 don't play either, well, we don't have the time to 0:16:48.320 --> 0:16:51.360 play the frank and grab card and turn people into 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:54.640 characters on these shows because they are such fast turnaround. 0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:57.360 You know, I've got no problem with somebody saying, you know, 0:16:57.800 --> 0:17:01.040 if if somebody stumbles on the words and go, you know, 0:17:01.280 --> 0:17:05.480 I really love you, but what's your name again? Blah blah, ben, Like, 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:08.040 I don't mind you cut all of that out, you know, 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:11.919 and change people's words, because the sentiment is exactly the same. 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:15.760 But when you clearly change someone's words, like you know, 0:17:16.080 --> 0:17:18.640 I really love you John, you know, when they're talking 0:17:18.640 --> 0:17:20.479 about John somewhere else, I think that I think that 0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:24.440 is taking the piss. And we've seen everything, you know, Yeah, 0:17:24.520 --> 0:17:27.200 I mean how many times on I probably shouldn't say this, 0:17:27.280 --> 0:17:28.840 I'm going anyway, how many times on you know, the 0:17:28.880 --> 0:17:31.080 recent Big Brothers, have we seen someone sitting in a 0:17:31.119 --> 0:17:34.159 diar room and talking and you know they're using them 0:17:34.200 --> 0:17:36.680 one hundred percent. Then it cuts to the house and 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:40.200 then their tone of voice change changes completely because they're 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:43.359 clearly using them talking about something else from another time. 0:17:43.400 --> 0:17:45.280 It's just I just don't think it's a fair way 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:47.560 to edit. So I really do take my hat off 0:17:47.560 --> 0:17:50.159 to our post Team Jallah. You know the gel has 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:52.879 run over all these years, across all these shows. You 0:17:52.920 --> 0:17:55.200 know it's a fair edit that I think our people get. 0:17:55.520 --> 0:17:58.280 Well, this is the question. I'm really excited about Love Island. 0:17:58.359 --> 0:17:59.959 You know there's now Heartbreak Island. 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:02.840 There's going to be Fuck Boy Ireland. Are all They're 0:18:02.840 --> 0:18:03.480 all trying. 0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:05.800 To do the same things in the reality space that 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:08.400 is similar to what you've done with Love Island. When 0:18:08.440 --> 0:18:12.280 other producers copy elements from your shows, do you get 0:18:12.320 --> 0:18:14.280 flattered by that or do you get frustrated? 0:18:14.600 --> 0:18:14.719 Oh? 0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:17.240 Look, it is flattering, but you know there is only 0:18:17.280 --> 0:18:20.000 one Love Island. I mean, you know, at least change 0:18:20.000 --> 0:18:22.160 it up a little bit. Like I thought Too Hot 0:18:22.200 --> 0:18:25.119 to Handle was really clever. For example, Now that was 0:18:25.160 --> 0:18:28.400 clearly a Love Island rip off, but had a really 0:18:28.480 --> 0:18:30.399 clever element to it, which is, you know, you can't 0:18:30.760 --> 0:18:32.560 touch each other or you lose money. I thought that 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:35.440 was genius. The other ones a Heartbreak Old. I haven't 0:18:35.440 --> 0:18:36.919 even seen a frame of it, but I know that 0:18:36.960 --> 0:18:39.000 nobody's watching it, so I'm imagining it's not that good. 0:18:39.160 --> 0:18:41.320 Fuck boyl I know nothing about I know that Warns 0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:43.440 are making it for Foxtail. I look forward to seeing 0:18:43.520 --> 0:18:46.160 it Love Boat. I mean, you know, God, the fact 0:18:46.200 --> 0:18:48.520 that they were able to sell themselves as Loveland on 0:18:48.520 --> 0:18:52.680 a boat is almost offensive. When we were in ship 0:18:52.920 --> 0:18:55.400 self mode during COVID and trying to get the show up, 0:18:55.960 --> 0:18:58.159 we were talking all sorts of crazy stuff because I 0:18:58.160 --> 0:18:59.919 don't know if you remember, but the American Love Island 0:19:00.640 --> 0:19:02.960 very cleverly made their show on the roof of a 0:19:03.040 --> 0:19:05.680 casino in Las Vegas, and we were trying to work 0:19:05.680 --> 0:19:09.000 out how to make Australian Love Island when nobody could 0:19:09.000 --> 0:19:10.960 go anywhere and no one could breathe near anyone and 0:19:10.960 --> 0:19:14.359 all that kind of stuff, And we seriously considered making 0:19:14.400 --> 0:19:16.919 love Oland on a boat for about a day and 0:19:16.960 --> 0:19:18.520 how that would work and what it would look like. 0:19:18.560 --> 0:19:21.840 And I thank God that we didn't do it. 0:19:21.880 --> 0:19:25.639 Now, but I mean crudous to Channel ten and the 0:19:25.640 --> 0:19:28.120 people that were behind making that, because I think there 0:19:28.200 --> 0:19:31.800 is still a thirst for seeing new content, new shows. 0:19:31.840 --> 0:19:34.520 I think people want to see some things that you know, 0:19:34.720 --> 0:19:36.479 I think they need to take a gamble, you know. 0:19:36.720 --> 0:19:40.600 Yeah, Look, Chanten are the best network at taking a gamble, 0:19:40.640 --> 0:19:43.200 and obviously sometimes it doesn't work. They hit the jackpot 0:19:43.240 --> 0:19:44.639 with is It Hunted. 0:19:45.240 --> 0:19:47.040 Yeah, that was a good one that worked. 0:19:47.119 --> 0:19:49.439 That really worked, and obviously the audience responded to it. 0:19:49.480 --> 0:19:51.719 You know, they haven't hit the jackpot with Traitors and 0:19:52.280 --> 0:19:54.760 love Boat, but hey, at least they're trying. Channel nine 0:19:54.800 --> 0:19:57.160 have got an ITV show launching after the Block called 0:19:57.200 --> 0:19:59.399 My Mum or Dad, which is a brand new format, 0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:01.520 which I've seen episode one of it and is excellent, 0:20:01.680 --> 0:20:03.760 and it'd be interesting to see if It'd be interesting 0:20:03.760 --> 0:20:05.560 to see if that can pull a crowd, because I 0:20:05.600 --> 0:20:09.120 do think people are more skeptical of new shows now, 0:20:09.160 --> 0:20:11.199 and because you know, there is so much choice with 0:20:11.320 --> 0:20:14.920 streaming services. Unless it's a love Old or and o'motlet 0:20:14.920 --> 0:20:16.560 to get Me out of Here? Or Married at First Sight, 0:20:16.680 --> 0:20:20.040 or a block or a big Brother or show a 0:20:20.320 --> 0:20:23.800 brand that people know, it's very hard to pull a 0:20:23.840 --> 0:20:26.199 crowd now. But you know, at least Hunted has shown 0:20:26.400 --> 0:20:27.800 that you can do that, and I hope that My 0:20:27.920 --> 0:20:30.280 Mum and Your Dad will have the same success. 0:20:30.440 --> 0:20:31.800 I think that one's going to be quite good. I've 0:20:31.800 --> 0:20:34.800 seen the first episode as well. Looks amazing. The decision 0:20:34.840 --> 0:20:37.240 to have that this season on the streaming platform of 0:20:37.320 --> 0:20:39.320 Channel nine and not on the main channel you know, 0:20:39.359 --> 0:20:41.560 it seems like a bit of a mistake. Now, when 0:20:41.600 --> 0:20:44.280 you ask me, only after watching the first three episodes 0:20:44.320 --> 0:20:46.320 do I think this, I was like, yeah, that's fine. 0:20:46.359 --> 0:20:48.200 I think that show is going to work well because 0:20:48.200 --> 0:20:49.480 that's mainly where people. 0:20:49.200 --> 0:20:49.920 Are watching it. 0:20:50.119 --> 0:20:52.159 But then I watched and saw how polished and how 0:20:52.240 --> 0:20:55.360 amazing this series is. Am I wrong by thinking it's 0:20:55.359 --> 0:20:57.160 a bit of a mistake that it's not at all 0:20:57.200 --> 0:20:58.000 on the main channel. 0:20:58.200 --> 0:21:00.920 Look, I hope you're wrong. I mean, look, it's Love 0:21:00.960 --> 0:21:03.360 On is not a television show. Love On is content. 0:21:03.480 --> 0:21:06.080 You know, You've got to remember that it's watched all 0:21:06.119 --> 0:21:09.360 around the world, and it's watched by teenagers on their 0:21:09.359 --> 0:21:12.160 phones under their doners, and it's watched by people on 0:21:12.320 --> 0:21:15.040 the train on the way to work, and it's watched 0:21:15.040 --> 0:21:17.600 by people on their laptops when they're pretending to work 0:21:17.640 --> 0:21:20.639 in their office. And it's watched in a whole, weird, 0:21:20.920 --> 0:21:24.119 wonderful variety of places, on a whole range of different devices. 0:21:24.440 --> 0:21:29.000 And what Australian Love Old has shown is over three years, 0:21:29.080 --> 0:21:31.040 it doesn't matter what channel you put it on, it 0:21:31.080 --> 0:21:34.720 will always do a small number on linear television. It 0:21:34.800 --> 0:21:37.280 is not a show that people turn up night after 0:21:37.359 --> 0:21:40.120 night to watch on TV because most of our audience 0:21:40.560 --> 0:21:43.320 are not TV viewers. I mean, how many people do 0:21:43.320 --> 0:21:45.280 you know under the age of twenty five now that 0:21:45.400 --> 0:21:48.400 literally don't own a TV or don't watch television at all. 0:21:48.480 --> 0:21:51.000 Everything is everything is online, everything is streamed. 0:21:51.080 --> 0:21:53.080 Well, I was talking to young people last night, and 0:21:53.119 --> 0:21:55.399 I can say that all confidently because I'm now in 0:21:55.400 --> 0:21:57.639 my forties. But I was talking to young people at 0:21:57.680 --> 0:22:00.159 a bar last night and they were talking about the 0:22:00.160 --> 0:22:02.320 fact that none of them watched Freedaware television, like. 0:22:02.280 --> 0:22:03.600 No, no long television. 0:22:03.600 --> 0:22:05.199 So it's saying that I watched the shows that are 0:22:05.200 --> 0:22:08.200 on Freedaware television. But then I named shows that are 0:22:08.240 --> 0:22:11.040 from freedoware that are doing well on the streaming platforms, 0:22:11.160 --> 0:22:13.080 and they didn't even know that they were playing on 0:22:13.119 --> 0:22:13.720 the main channel. 0:22:13.760 --> 0:22:14.840 Isn't that funny? You know? 0:22:14.920 --> 0:22:17.000 They were like, oh, I watch Love Island. They're like, 0:22:17.119 --> 0:22:19.199 was that on Channel nine? Could you watch that on 0:22:19.280 --> 0:22:21.639 free to air? And I was like, oh my god. 0:22:21.520 --> 0:22:23.320 Yeah, Well that's that's what and that's why I think 0:22:23.359 --> 0:22:25.240 you probably are wrong, and I hope, I hope you 0:22:25.240 --> 0:22:27.080 are wrong, but I honestly think it doesn't matter You 0:22:27.080 --> 0:22:30.679 could put Love Island on Channel nine straight after the 0:22:30.720 --> 0:22:33.399 block and it probably still wouldn't do a big number. 0:22:33.720 --> 0:22:37.080 It is just not a linear TV show however, And 0:22:37.119 --> 0:22:40.320 I remember back in Spain in twenty eighteen when we 0:22:40.359 --> 0:22:42.919 first launched a show, and we were all shitting our 0:22:43.000 --> 0:22:47.600 pants because after six days, when we were getting one 0:22:47.680 --> 0:22:50.679 hundred and twenty thousand viewers on Go, we thought we 0:22:50.680 --> 0:22:53.399 were working on the biggest flop in Australian television history. 0:22:53.560 --> 0:22:56.320 And then the seven day numbers come out and you're like, okay, 0:22:56.880 --> 0:22:58.800 and then the twenty eight day numbers come out and 0:22:58.800 --> 0:23:02.600 you're like, oh my god, this is meg. We're going 0:23:02.680 --> 0:23:05.880 to have that again. It's going to do a very 0:23:05.920 --> 0:23:08.280 small number on go. So you know, basically this series 0:23:08.359 --> 0:23:11.639 is it drops on nine now at six pm Monday 0:23:11.640 --> 0:23:14.080 to Thursday, and then it gets followed up on Go 0:23:14.160 --> 0:23:17.399 at eight thirty pm Monday to Thursday. And I'm going 0:23:17.480 --> 0:23:19.399 to say that ten percent of our audience are going 0:23:19.440 --> 0:23:21.359 to watch it on Go. And I'm not dissuading anyone 0:23:21.359 --> 0:23:22.840 can watching it on Go because I want that number 0:23:22.880 --> 0:23:25.960 to be as big as possible obviously, but let's be honest. 0:23:26.359 --> 0:23:28.200 Most people are going to watch it on nine now, 0:23:28.200 --> 0:23:30.800 and it's unlikely that they're going to be refreshing their 0:23:30.800 --> 0:23:33.520 screens at five point fifty nine waiting for it to drop. 0:23:33.640 --> 0:23:35.600 It's going to be a thing where you know, they're 0:23:35.600 --> 0:23:37.400 going to see the promos and they're going to watch 0:23:37.440 --> 0:23:41.240 it at ten o'clock at night after they've finished their day, 0:23:41.320 --> 0:23:43.240 or they're going to watch it at seven o'clock next 0:23:43.280 --> 0:23:44.640 morning when they're on the way to work. 0:23:44.760 --> 0:23:46.480 Well, just so you know, Alex Ben and I watch 0:23:46.480 --> 0:23:49.000 it in bed at nine o'clock every time, and we've 0:23:49.000 --> 0:23:52.159 watched every season and it's like we don't normally go 0:23:52.200 --> 0:23:54.400 to bed at nine o'clock, but we feel Love Island. 0:23:54.880 --> 0:23:57.720 We get the snacks, we get into bed, we put 0:23:57.760 --> 0:23:59.400 on the TV that we never use in the bedroom, 0:23:59.440 --> 0:24:02.080 and we watch it because it is like, I don't know, 0:24:02.160 --> 0:24:04.800 it's a guilty pleasure. There's no other show in Austrange 0:24:04.800 --> 0:24:06.359 television like it in my mind. 0:24:06.520 --> 0:24:08.080 And how do you do you crome cast it to 0:24:08.119 --> 0:24:12.159 the screen or do you like, yeah, chrome cast it. 0:24:12.200 --> 0:24:12.640 Yeah. 0:24:12.760 --> 0:24:14.760 So going back to original point, I do think you're 0:24:14.760 --> 0:24:16.480 wrong because I think I think it's okay to have 0:24:16.520 --> 0:24:19.480 polished stuff that drop on streaming services for the first time, 0:24:19.520 --> 0:24:22.400 and I just don't think it matters when people watch it, 0:24:22.440 --> 0:24:23.439 as long as they watch it. 0:24:23.880 --> 0:24:25.879 But what about Beauty in the Gig. Why is Beauty 0:24:25.880 --> 0:24:27.400 in the Geek on the main channel? Do you think 0:24:27.440 --> 0:24:31.040 Beautying the Geek still has an audience on the main channel. 0:24:31.480 --> 0:24:35.040 I think it's a broader format. I think it probably 0:24:35.640 --> 0:24:39.399 appeals to an older audience. But yeah, look, good question. 0:24:39.520 --> 0:24:41.600 Maybe the next series, if they do another one, will 0:24:41.920 --> 0:24:43.600 be the same thing. And what are they doing with 0:24:43.640 --> 0:24:45.879 Big Brother on seven? I don't know, Like I heard 0:24:46.000 --> 0:24:47.919 that from I heard that it was only going to 0:24:47.920 --> 0:24:50.600 be on seven plus with one elimination show a week, 0:24:50.600 --> 0:24:51.600 and then I heard it was all going to be 0:24:51.600 --> 0:24:52.800 on the main channel again, So I don't know what 0:24:52.800 --> 0:24:55.360 they're doing with that, But you know that's the same thing. 0:24:55.840 --> 0:24:59.040 I mean, clearly, the audience numbers are so low now 0:24:59.320 --> 0:25:02.760 that it's hard justify it being on Channel seven. So 0:25:03.119 --> 0:25:04.360 do you know what the plan is with that? 0:25:04.520 --> 0:25:07.639 I think that it's going to be nineteen episodes with 0:25:07.720 --> 0:25:10.480 a finale, and I think that it'll all be pre 0:25:10.480 --> 0:25:12.840 recorded with the finale is still going to be on 0:25:12.880 --> 0:25:15.600 the main channel. So and they're a vote coming in 0:25:15.640 --> 0:25:18.639 from the general public. But it's the shortest season in 0:25:18.680 --> 0:25:20.600 the history of Big Brother that's been done in the world. 0:25:22.119 --> 0:25:24.920 Are they playing on is a streaming thing or is 0:25:24.920 --> 0:25:25.960 it going to be on Channel seven. 0:25:26.119 --> 0:25:28.600 I don't think that's been officially signed off on because 0:25:28.720 --> 0:25:31.400 whilst it's in quarter two of next year, there's still 0:25:31.440 --> 0:25:33.240 a bit of time between now and then and other 0:25:33.320 --> 0:25:35.640 shows to see how they perform. And I guess that'll 0:25:35.680 --> 0:25:38.879 probably work out where that lands. But I mean, the 0:25:38.920 --> 0:25:41.720 next format is not resonating with the fans at all. 0:25:41.760 --> 0:25:44.399 I've never seen a backlash to a theme or a 0:25:44.440 --> 0:25:46.960 twist of a show then calling it House of Love 0:25:47.080 --> 0:25:49.440 and having it like Love Island. I mean, it's Love 0:25:49.480 --> 0:25:51.119 Island in a warehouse. 0:25:51.400 --> 0:25:52.920 And I just. 0:25:54.920 --> 0:25:56.520 Look, I'll be there to watch it, because you know, 0:25:56.600 --> 0:25:58.520 I'm a fan and I'll always watch that show. But 0:25:58.880 --> 0:26:02.280 I just struggle. I'm struggling to see if that and 0:26:02.320 --> 0:26:04.760 I'm worried for them. This could be the last Big 0:26:04.800 --> 0:26:06.560 Brother in the country, but I think at the same 0:26:06.560 --> 0:26:08.359 time seven has been lucky to get four out of it. 0:26:08.480 --> 0:26:11.359 So yeah, well, looking at it's hard for me to comment, 0:26:11.359 --> 0:26:13.320 but I think it's pretty easy. Formerly with Big Brother, 0:26:13.359 --> 0:26:14.920 you put a load of interesting people into a house. 0:26:14.960 --> 0:26:17.080 You give them good tasks each week, and you watch 0:26:17.080 --> 0:26:18.879 them twenty four hours a day, and you show as 0:26:18.920 --> 0:26:21.400 much of it as possible. That's how you make Big Brother. 0:26:21.720 --> 0:26:25.440 I went desperately searching through all my old documents from 0:26:25.600 --> 0:26:27.480 Southern Star and I couldn't find it. But I know 0:26:27.600 --> 0:26:32.560 for a fact that in twenty fifteen, when after the 0:26:32.640 --> 0:26:35.560 last series on Channel nine, they asked for a cheap 0:26:35.680 --> 0:26:38.280 version of Love Arnt and I came up with an idea, 0:26:38.320 --> 0:26:41.680 and I gave them a document called Big Brother Love Shack. 0:26:42.240 --> 0:26:44.119 And what it was. The idea was that the house 0:26:44.200 --> 0:26:47.320 got turned into like a you know, an old kind 0:26:47.359 --> 0:26:49.639 of beach shack and of palm trees and all that 0:26:49.680 --> 0:26:51.879 kind of stuff. And they were all single, and so 0:26:52.000 --> 0:26:55.320 this was before Love Arland existed. So I basically pitched 0:26:55.760 --> 0:26:58.560 Love Island House of Love when we were desperate seven 0:26:58.640 --> 0:26:59.040 years ago. 0:27:00.200 --> 0:27:02.560 Person who's worked across that show, you know, someone who's 0:27:02.640 --> 0:27:05.080 just as connected to that brand more than maybe even 0:27:05.119 --> 0:27:07.160 you in some ways, was saying to me that they 0:27:07.200 --> 0:27:09.680 were really shocked with bringing all Stars back. 0:27:09.720 --> 0:27:11.600 They were like, oh, well, Reggie, she had like. 0:27:11.560 --> 0:27:14.000 Two million people two to four million people watch that 0:27:14.080 --> 0:27:16.359 series back in two thousand and three. Surely we'll have 0:27:16.400 --> 0:27:18.919 a reconnaissance, a return of people that have given up 0:27:18.920 --> 0:27:21.119 on Free to Wear. But then the numbers didn't translate. 0:27:21.359 --> 0:27:23.280 You know, they were really shocked by it. They were like, 0:27:23.320 --> 0:27:26.479 I'm really shocked that bringing these people back didn't have 0:27:26.640 --> 0:27:27.680 monumental growth. 0:27:27.720 --> 0:27:29.560 Well you look, you know, my opinion has always been 0:27:29.600 --> 0:27:32.240 that All Stars doesn't generally work. Officered that for years, 0:27:32.600 --> 0:27:35.440 that across a number of brands. It is very hard 0:27:35.440 --> 0:27:37.120 to get people to be as brilliant the second time 0:27:37.119 --> 0:27:38.639 as it were the first time, because they've been there 0:27:38.640 --> 0:27:41.160 and they've done it before. And also there's no new discovery, 0:27:41.240 --> 0:27:44.119 so it looks it's very it's very hard. 0:27:44.400 --> 0:27:46.800 Television is about discovery, though, and that's the biggest problem 0:27:46.800 --> 0:27:48.280 at the moment, is that I think that we do 0:27:48.400 --> 0:27:50.080 need to go on a journey. We love to find 0:27:50.080 --> 0:27:52.240 new things. We love to be going on the journey 0:27:52.240 --> 0:27:54.800 together and you know, week by week falling in love 0:27:54.840 --> 0:27:56.880 with the person and talking to our friends about it, 0:27:56.960 --> 0:27:58.640 we feel like we're a part of it. The moment, 0:27:58.680 --> 0:28:01.719 the television isn't including its audience or respecting its audience. 0:28:01.760 --> 0:28:04.080 As the time that television is no longer working. Yep, 0:28:04.160 --> 0:28:06.120 we've got to get into this as fast as we can. 0:28:07.000 --> 0:28:08.639 Can you be a little bit more outrageous? Are we 0:28:08.680 --> 0:28:10.919 going to get to see more adult, more racy content? 0:28:10.960 --> 0:28:13.960 Were you able to be on set going? Well, thank 0:28:14.000 --> 0:28:17.560 Gobra on the you know, the stream platform, because what 0:28:17.640 --> 0:28:20.000 they've just done there is would never have been on 0:28:20.040 --> 0:28:20.880 Freedoway television. 0:28:21.040 --> 0:28:23.000 I was absolutely delighted when I heard it was going 0:28:23.000 --> 0:28:24.600 to be on the stream platform for that exact reason. 0:28:24.800 --> 0:28:28.320 We one hundred percent have been edgier'. You'll notice from 0:28:28.320 --> 0:28:31.000 episode one there's like twenty seven times more abs and 0:28:31.080 --> 0:28:33.960 our shots the previous series. And you know, some of 0:28:34.000 --> 0:28:36.880 the challenges were able to play our you know, look, 0:28:36.920 --> 0:28:38.880 I think they're hilarious, and I think that our audience 0:28:38.920 --> 0:28:41.160 will think that they're hilarious. But it's very hard to 0:28:41.160 --> 0:28:43.440 put some of that content on the main channel. I 0:28:43.440 --> 0:28:45.560 remember a challenge that we played in the series one 0:28:45.640 --> 0:28:48.840 called dirty Pizza when I can't remember what the headline was, 0:28:48.840 --> 0:28:50.760 but I got that there was a Daily Mail headline 0:28:50.760 --> 0:28:52.720 and it was the greatest headline I've ever read, with 0:28:52.840 --> 0:28:56.720 something like, you know, love on a smear tomato paced 0:28:56.800 --> 0:29:00.280 over their glistening breasts as they You know, it was 0:29:00.320 --> 0:29:02.680 the most smutty headline ever, and I loved every word 0:29:02.680 --> 0:29:06.320 of it. And we have challenges like that in this one. 0:29:06.440 --> 0:29:09.480 If you're I'm just going to use the code word bananas, 0:29:09.560 --> 0:29:12.600 and when you see the episode in question, you will 0:29:12.600 --> 0:29:13.719 then know exactly what I mean. 0:29:14.200 --> 0:29:16.720 Oh wait, I'm thinking that sounds in right up, Mali, 0:29:16.880 --> 0:29:19.240 right up mailing. Indeed, you know, there are some pretty 0:29:19.320 --> 0:29:22.360 huge surprises. I think you call them bombs, and pre 0:29:22.360 --> 0:29:24.800 recording a TV show can be really hard, and keeping 0:29:24.800 --> 0:29:27.200 those secrets a secret and making sure that they don't 0:29:27.200 --> 0:29:30.120 get leaked to publications and podcasts and all of those 0:29:30.160 --> 0:29:34.000 thirsty places that people want exclusives. Were you stressed that 0:29:34.200 --> 0:29:37.240 things like ol from ORETI First Sight getting into the 0:29:37.240 --> 0:29:38.040 media too early? 0:29:38.120 --> 0:29:39.920 Were you worried that that is going to be a. 0:29:40.720 --> 0:29:42.520 Not stress so I used to be. I remember when 0:29:42.520 --> 0:29:43.920 we did well, you know, every year when we did 0:29:44.240 --> 0:29:47.280 do I'm a Celeb, and I'm a celeb absolutely relies 0:29:47.360 --> 0:29:49.320 on secrecy in order for us to rate well in 0:29:49.320 --> 0:29:51.360 episode one, which you know we always do because it's 0:29:51.440 --> 0:29:53.800 rare that everyone knows who everyone is. But with this one, 0:29:53.840 --> 0:29:56.320 I always thought if our leaks, it's not going to 0:29:56.320 --> 0:29:59.040 be a terrible thing for the show, because he's such 0:29:59.280 --> 0:30:01.720 you know, he was so great on Marred at First Sight. Obviously, 0:30:01.760 --> 0:30:06.400 so many people watch that show, so I'm not upset 0:30:06.480 --> 0:30:08.560 that it. You know, it appears to have leaked and 0:30:08.600 --> 0:30:11.240 everyone seems to know about it. There are more surprises 0:30:11.280 --> 0:30:14.120 coming up that I would say are equally as massive 0:30:14.360 --> 0:30:17.280 that have not leaked yet, which I'm delighted about because 0:30:17.320 --> 0:30:19.680 I want them to leak when channel and I want 0:30:19.720 --> 0:30:21.400 them to leak or when people see them on the show. 0:30:21.440 --> 0:30:24.600 But it is a series full of surprises. There was 0:30:24.800 --> 0:30:27.160 We did a lot of twisted turning things this year, 0:30:27.200 --> 0:30:30.200 and every single one the works. So, yes, Al has leaked. Yes, 0:30:30.240 --> 0:30:32.240 Al is brilliant in the show. Yes he does a 0:30:32.320 --> 0:30:34.600 showy on the first night. Yes, you're going to piss 0:30:34.640 --> 0:30:38.360 yourself laughing when he walks in. He is such a 0:30:38.400 --> 0:30:41.920 great figure of comedy. And when when nine talked to 0:30:42.040 --> 0:30:43.400 us about you know, you've got to have this guy 0:30:43.440 --> 0:30:45.240 from Married at First Sight. Now, I missed that whole 0:30:45.240 --> 0:30:47.000 series because I was filming I'm a celebrity when it 0:30:47.040 --> 0:30:48.360 was on, so I didn't see his frame of it. 0:30:48.400 --> 0:30:49.920 And I was like, oh, bloody hell, we're gonna have 0:30:49.960 --> 0:30:51.480 to have someone from Maths on the show. And I 0:30:51.520 --> 0:30:53.520 went into the room and I tell the other producers no, 0:30:53.520 --> 0:30:55.240 I want to put this guy on the show. And 0:30:55.240 --> 0:30:57.360 they were like, is it al And I was like yeah, 0:30:57.400 --> 0:30:59.800 and I'm like, oh my god, he's amazing. I was like, okay, okay, 0:30:59.840 --> 0:31:00.400 this is good. 0:31:00.440 --> 0:31:00.800 Wow. 0:31:01.040 --> 0:31:02.520 And then when I met him in the flesh, I 0:31:02.560 --> 0:31:05.000 was like, oh my god, this bloke is amazing. 0:31:05.280 --> 0:31:05.920 It's amazing. 0:31:06.000 --> 0:31:07.960 He's so I only meet him once in real life 0:31:07.960 --> 0:31:10.080 and he's from a different World's hilarious. 0:31:10.120 --> 0:31:12.360 If he had auditioned on his own and never and 0:31:12.440 --> 0:31:14.160 had never been on Maths, he would still have gotten 0:31:14.160 --> 0:31:17.520 the show. That's how good he is. Yes, there are 0:31:17.600 --> 0:31:20.480 there are another couple of surprises coming up later in 0:31:20.520 --> 0:31:23.480 the series that have not leaked yet that I am 0:31:23.720 --> 0:31:26.160 delighted if not leaked yet, so stand by. I'm sure 0:31:26.160 --> 0:31:28.160 they'll leak by the time this podcast drops and then 0:31:28.160 --> 0:31:30.400 I'll eat my words. But so far, so good. 0:31:30.800 --> 0:31:33.200 So he didn't apply though, This is the question everyone 0:31:33.200 --> 0:31:35.200 wants to know, like, did he put did he take 0:31:35.200 --> 0:31:37.320 the time to put the audition together and apply for 0:31:37.440 --> 0:31:40.040 that or did nine say, hey, mate, we need to 0:31:40.040 --> 0:31:41.200 put you on something right now. 0:31:41.240 --> 0:31:43.920 Of course he didn't bloody apply. No, you know, he didn't. 0:31:45.280 --> 0:31:47.640 Somebody at nine called me up and they said, I 0:31:47.680 --> 0:31:49.400 want you to have a look at Al and they 0:31:49.440 --> 0:31:51.840 went didn't tell us and they didn't say you've got 0:31:51.960 --> 0:31:53.920 to put him on and we have a good look 0:31:53.960 --> 0:31:57.000 at Al, and luckily we did. And so no, no 0:31:57.080 --> 0:32:00.840 he didn't apply. But you know, no problem, and that happens. 0:32:01.640 --> 0:32:03.800 How do you feel with the contestants going on too 0:32:03.880 --> 0:32:06.680 only fans? Because do you have an opinion about them 0:32:06.720 --> 0:32:08.640 going down that path? Once these shows are. 0:32:08.560 --> 0:32:11.760 Over, look good on them if they can make money 0:32:11.800 --> 0:32:14.160 from it. I've got I've got no moral issues with 0:32:14.280 --> 0:32:17.640 only fans at all. I mean we have cast members. 0:32:18.000 --> 0:32:19.920 We've cast people in the past that have been on 0:32:19.920 --> 0:32:22.440 only fans. I think Ari from last year was on 0:32:22.440 --> 0:32:25.720 only fans. I think a couple maybe one from this season, 0:32:25.720 --> 0:32:27.920 they're on only fans. I think we draw the line 0:32:28.240 --> 0:32:31.880 at full penetrative sex. I think I think if you 0:32:31.920 --> 0:32:35.520 are literally fucking on the internet, that's a step too far. 0:32:36.120 --> 0:32:38.400 I think it's just nudity and people want to pay 0:32:38.440 --> 0:32:39.920 you to look at your body. And your body is 0:32:40.120 --> 0:32:42.280 you know, good enough to make people pay for it, 0:32:42.360 --> 0:32:44.880 then then good on you. No no problem at all. 0:32:45.040 --> 0:32:48.920 But I think really from a brand perspective, if you're 0:32:49.040 --> 0:32:53.120 literally making hardcore porn and it is accessible to anybody 0:32:53.120 --> 0:32:55.760 with a credit card, then that probably is a step 0:32:55.800 --> 0:32:58.000 too far. Having said that, so only people are on it, 0:32:58.040 --> 0:33:00.880 now you know that that rule may have to change. 0:33:01.360 --> 0:33:04.280 Two as we as we move moved through the US. Yes, 0:33:04.720 --> 0:33:06.920 I love on series ten. I'm sure every single person 0:33:06.960 --> 0:33:08.640 will on only fans. 0:33:08.360 --> 0:33:12.720 But we found all of them off hardcore porn exactly biual, 0:33:12.880 --> 0:33:15.840 and they're all whatever called gender neutral gender I don't 0:33:15.840 --> 0:33:18.040 know all of these new terms, all of these work terms. 0:33:18.080 --> 0:33:18.880 That's where we will be. 0:33:19.080 --> 0:33:21.240 That's where we will be. It'll be it'll be very 0:33:21.360 --> 0:33:26.280 rare to be a just a heterosexual person that has 0:33:26.320 --> 0:33:29.680 no only fans that would be impossible to find. 0:33:29.920 --> 0:33:31.920 Well, not that Abbi Chatfield is not only fans, but 0:33:31.960 --> 0:33:34.960 she's sharing more on her social media than ever before. 0:33:35.240 --> 0:33:38.120 You know, do you think that people use your show 0:33:38.640 --> 0:33:40.200 just because they want the Insta fame? 0:33:40.680 --> 0:33:42.160 It could be the next Abbi Chatfield. 0:33:42.560 --> 0:33:45.320 I'm not stupid enough to think that people do not 0:33:45.480 --> 0:33:47.880 come on Love on to stoke their followers. I mean, 0:33:48.160 --> 0:33:50.360 let's be honest, a lot of them, do you know. 0:33:50.400 --> 0:33:51.920 I'm going to say that a lot of people do 0:33:52.000 --> 0:33:54.040 come on to find love and also to go through 0:33:54.040 --> 0:33:56.160 the experience of being flown to Spain and meet load 0:33:56.200 --> 0:34:00.160 of hot people and Instagram followers and TikTok followers and 0:34:00.200 --> 0:34:03.040 just social presence is a bonus. But one hundred percent 0:34:03.080 --> 0:34:06.040 people see this is a pathway to greater things, and 0:34:06.080 --> 0:34:08.000 I'm completely fine with that as long as they are 0:34:08.360 --> 0:34:12.319 entertaining and genuinely single and genuinely looking for love. It 0:34:12.360 --> 0:34:14.359 absolutely wouldn't work if it was just a whole load 0:34:14.400 --> 0:34:16.920 of want to be influencers, you know, messing around in 0:34:17.000 --> 0:34:20.320 Spain and worrying about what their brand is going to be. Again, 0:34:20.360 --> 0:34:23.560 we go through a painstaking process to make sure people 0:34:23.560 --> 0:34:25.840 aren't going to come, are going to come and completely 0:34:25.880 --> 0:34:28.759 give themselves up to this experience and this you know 0:34:28.800 --> 0:34:30.839 what we're doing. But hey, again, I've got I've got 0:34:30.880 --> 0:34:33.960 no problem if people want to be insta famous. I mean, god, 0:34:34.080 --> 0:34:36.800 if I was as hot as the traditional Love Island 0:34:36.960 --> 0:34:40.120 islander and I could make money, yeah, if you part. 0:34:40.160 --> 0:34:42.480 I don't know if you'd be alive. I think you'd 0:34:42.800 --> 0:34:46.279 know that's true where you would be. 0:34:46.480 --> 0:34:47.120 We'll leave it at that. 0:34:47.840 --> 0:34:50.160 If someone wanted to pay me a grand to hold 0:34:50.239 --> 0:34:52.799 up a green smoothie and you know, smile, then you 0:34:52.840 --> 0:34:55.960 know I'll take a grand, Thanks very much, and you know, 0:34:56.239 --> 0:34:57.359 no problem. Good on them. 0:34:57.640 --> 0:34:59.560 Well for a chubby looking English bloke, I think you've 0:34:59.600 --> 0:35:01.239 done pretty well for yourself, so I don't I don't 0:35:01.239 --> 0:35:04.319 think you have to be too worried. Charm alone has 0:35:04.320 --> 0:35:06.160 been able to get you into places. 0:35:05.960 --> 0:35:09.319 There's a saying that we used for Jordan in this 0:35:09.440 --> 0:35:13.239 series sort of used to apply to me. But I'm 0:35:13.239 --> 0:35:15.320 not saying I'm a good looking short, but certainly the 0:35:15.560 --> 0:35:18.640 saying works. And it was you're laughing, you're laughing, you're naked. 0:35:19.200 --> 0:35:21.200 Yeah, well that works. That works. I mean, humor has 0:35:21.200 --> 0:35:22.439 gotten a lot of people into bed. 0:35:22.560 --> 0:35:24.680 I just can't believe you're getting away with calling someone 0:35:24.760 --> 0:35:27.719 Callum hole. His name cannot be Callum hole, the poor 0:35:27.719 --> 0:35:29.719 boy like when I his. 0:35:29.760 --> 0:35:34.279 Name was, it's not his name was Callum Hole. And 0:35:34.320 --> 0:35:38.239 the way he says is though this is Callum haul. 0:35:38.920 --> 0:35:41.160 The Welsh apt is a cracker. 0:35:41.520 --> 0:35:43.800 So we've got you basically shut down the gay Internet 0:35:43.840 --> 0:35:45.719 with that man like he was released a couple of 0:35:45.760 --> 0:35:47.520 days ago, and I swear to god it was sent 0:35:47.560 --> 0:35:49.360 to me by anyone that I know that's gay, and 0:35:49.440 --> 0:35:50.600 I know a lot of gay people. 0:35:50.719 --> 0:35:53.640 Yeah, he will be a gay icon and he will 0:35:53.680 --> 0:35:57.480 love that too. But we we have Callum, who is Welsh. 0:35:57.719 --> 0:35:59.719 We've obviously got own our voice of a guy who 0:35:59.719 --> 0:36:02.920 is oursh We've got Holly who is very English like 0:36:03.040 --> 0:36:06.919 she literally is like a proper you know. We've got 0:36:07.040 --> 0:36:11.120 mitchh is a Kiwi. We've got Phoebe all no revealed 0:36:11.120 --> 0:36:13.760 her yet, so we've got a bomb coming later on who. 0:36:13.600 --> 0:36:15.919 Is who is there? Phoebe's already there. 0:36:16.120 --> 0:36:22.320 There's another Phoebe coming later. Okay, she's also Kiwi. We've 0:36:22.360 --> 0:36:24.719 got uh well, yeah, I can't tell you about the 0:36:24.760 --> 0:36:26.760 bombs that weren't released yet, but there's there's more accents 0:36:26.760 --> 0:36:28.879 and more flavors coming. It's the most diverse cast we've 0:36:28.920 --> 0:36:29.319 ever had. 0:36:30.000 --> 0:36:31.839 I feel like you're shoving it down our throat though. 0:36:31.880 --> 0:36:33.880 You know, like sometimes you're watching a series and you're like, 0:36:33.960 --> 0:36:36.480 oh God, these people you can tell that they sat 0:36:36.480 --> 0:36:38.680 there with a spreadsheet and tick some boxes to make 0:36:38.719 --> 0:36:41.879 sure they had all these people included, where this series. 0:36:41.600 --> 0:36:42.400 Doesn't feel like that. 0:36:42.440 --> 0:36:46.239 It feels very global without feeling like you're trying to 0:36:46.239 --> 0:36:47.360 tell us that it's global. 0:36:47.640 --> 0:36:50.160 You know, we didn't we you know, it's like we 0:36:50.200 --> 0:36:51.759 sat there and said what we really need this time 0:36:51.800 --> 0:36:54.680 as an English person, the Welsh person, and the Kiwi person, 0:36:54.719 --> 0:36:58.319 they just happened to be incredibly good. Now, you know, 0:36:58.440 --> 0:37:01.480 diversity is really import on Australian television and I'm a 0:37:01.520 --> 0:37:04.239 big advocate for that. You know, every cast should, you know, 0:37:04.280 --> 0:37:09.279 should have representations of real Australia. You know, modern day 0:37:09.280 --> 0:37:11.920 Australia is not all white faces. So yeah, I think 0:37:11.960 --> 0:37:15.920 it's really important diversity in reality casts, and you know 0:37:15.960 --> 0:37:18.279 we've always adhered to that. But the fact of the 0:37:18.320 --> 0:37:20.960 matter is if someone is not good enough to be 0:37:21.000 --> 0:37:23.000 on the show, it doesn't matter what color the skinners, 0:37:23.080 --> 0:37:24.919 or how tall they are or how whatever they are, 0:37:25.000 --> 0:37:26.799 They're not going to be in the show. So I 0:37:26.880 --> 0:37:29.960 just don't think you can shoehorn people in in. This 0:37:30.120 --> 0:37:31.799 is past the talk test. But as you see, we've 0:37:31.840 --> 0:37:35.080 been really lucky because I know that at time of writing, 0:37:35.840 --> 0:37:38.600 you know you know who the first eleven sorry here 0:37:38.719 --> 0:37:41.239 first thirteen Ireland des are I believe, and everyone knows 0:37:41.239 --> 0:37:43.000 that Ow's going in as well. But you've got to 0:37:43.000 --> 0:37:45.560 remember there's double that number of Islanders all up, so 0:37:46.760 --> 0:37:51.719 it is a extraordinarily diverse and wonderful cast of young, 0:37:51.800 --> 0:37:53.719 hot Australians that you're going to meet. 0:37:54.160 --> 0:37:56.160 Well, the media is already talking about the fact that 0:37:56.320 --> 0:37:58.680 Callum Hole is like going to be as big as 0:37:58.680 --> 0:37:59.480 Abby Chatfield. 0:37:59.520 --> 0:38:00.720 I've heard that from a few people. 0:38:01.040 --> 0:38:03.680 I said, soonce we met Callum. So it was Jalla 0:38:03.760 --> 0:38:06.239 and myself and Tina Diaz from the network and we 0:38:06.239 --> 0:38:09.600 were sitting in a room in Brisbane host Helm Brisbane, 0:38:09.719 --> 0:38:12.080 and we'd seen some of his Insta pittures and we 0:38:12.160 --> 0:38:13.759 knew that he was going to be good just from 0:38:13.760 --> 0:38:16.239 a little casting video we sent us. He walked into 0:38:16.280 --> 0:38:19.319 the room and honestly, within ten seconds we were not 0:38:19.480 --> 0:38:21.719 only like, this guy is in the show, but this 0:38:21.760 --> 0:38:25.120 guy is going to be a you know, network talent ongoing. 0:38:25.200 --> 0:38:27.320 He is bloody hilarious. 0:38:27.560 --> 0:38:28.200 I can't wait. 0:38:28.719 --> 0:38:30.719 Yeah, he just can't help but like him some of 0:38:30.719 --> 0:38:33.120 the things he does in the show. If he was 0:38:33.160 --> 0:38:35.920 anybody else, he would be the villain and everyone be 0:38:35.960 --> 0:38:38.160 throwing shit at the TV and saying I hate him, 0:38:38.160 --> 0:38:39.680 but for some reason he gets away with it because 0:38:39.719 --> 0:38:40.920 he's just very funny. 0:38:41.080 --> 0:38:43.880 I've already bought the merch. I've already brought the callum 0:38:43.920 --> 0:38:45.840 hole merch. I think he's going to be a winner, 0:38:46.040 --> 0:38:48.080 you know. And interestingly enough with Abby Chadfield, not to 0:38:48.160 --> 0:38:49.879 keep going on about her makes it sound like I'm 0:38:49.920 --> 0:38:53.680 obsessed with her. She I feel like you really owned 0:38:54.120 --> 0:38:56.120 her fame, Like I felt like she was back in 0:38:56.120 --> 0:38:58.600 a corporate job and kind of forgotten about after her 0:38:58.600 --> 0:39:01.960 Bachelor experience. And I feel like I had this debate 0:39:01.960 --> 0:39:02.960 with someone the other day and I was like, I 0:39:03.000 --> 0:39:06.360 think Alex mav putting her on I'm a celebrity was 0:39:06.400 --> 0:39:09.160 really the beginning of her. Like you really understood the 0:39:09.239 --> 0:39:12.480 essence of her with that fight with Dipper and you know, 0:39:12.640 --> 0:39:14.720 being a little bit woke and all that sort of stuff. 0:39:14.760 --> 0:39:16.480 Does that sit okay with you? Do you feel like 0:39:16.520 --> 0:39:18.839 you have some responsibility in her popularity. 0:39:18.920 --> 0:39:22.160 I'm delighted to be known as the man who made 0:39:22.200 --> 0:39:24.480 over Abby Chatfool what she is. Look, I think that 0:39:24.560 --> 0:39:27.320 she really appreciates I'm a cleblock. She came up to 0:39:27.360 --> 0:39:29.160 me at the Logi's you know, big hug and you 0:39:29.160 --> 0:39:32.279 know old friends, and I think she really knows what 0:39:32.320 --> 0:39:35.000 I'm a celebrity did for her, and that is what 0:39:35.080 --> 0:39:36.560 i'm a celebrity, get me out of it can do 0:39:36.640 --> 0:39:40.319 for people, because you know, I mean Anthony Khleier as well. 0:39:40.360 --> 0:39:42.400 I mean, you know Casey Donovan. You know, these were 0:39:42.440 --> 0:39:45.600 people that I'm going to say just kind of fading 0:39:45.640 --> 0:39:47.520 away a little bit at the time they went and 0:39:47.520 --> 0:39:49.600 I'm a sleib, and then suddenly they're on television for 0:39:49.719 --> 0:39:52.440 ninety minutes a night and everyone remembers why we love 0:39:52.480 --> 0:39:54.960 them in the first place, and their careers absolutely take 0:39:55.000 --> 0:39:59.400 off again after their Abby look, Abby did it all herself. 0:39:59.400 --> 0:40:01.520 You know. We we cast her, and she was an 0:40:01.520 --> 0:40:04.320 easy casting choice because she's great talent. But you know, 0:40:04.360 --> 0:40:05.719 I'm a slipt to get me out of it such 0:40:05.760 --> 0:40:07.680 hands off producing. So yes, you know, if you want 0:40:07.719 --> 0:40:09.440 to say, by putting on the show, it gave her 0:40:09.760 --> 0:40:13.400 a second chance of fame when she's really picked up 0:40:13.440 --> 0:40:15.319 and picked the ball up and run with it. But 0:40:15.360 --> 0:40:17.520 she did it all all herself. We put her in 0:40:17.520 --> 0:40:20.239 the show, but you know, she's just great talent and 0:40:20.280 --> 0:40:23.480 I think I think her socials are are brilliant, you know, 0:40:23.520 --> 0:40:26.520 like she's she's just so honest and open, and I 0:40:26.560 --> 0:40:30.400 think it's, you know, she's so new world that nobody 0:40:30.520 --> 0:40:32.920 do you remember when you know, when Facebook first came 0:40:32.920 --> 0:40:34.960 out for Instagram was even the thing, and everyone used 0:40:34.960 --> 0:40:36.960 to be a bit even at a little bit guarded. 0:40:37.000 --> 0:40:38.600 You know, it's like, oh, you know, here's my lovely 0:40:38.680 --> 0:40:41.560 dinner and here's a picture of my grandma. You know. 0:40:41.640 --> 0:40:44.600 Now it's like, you know, this vibrator gives me the 0:40:44.640 --> 0:40:48.440 best fucking orgasm I've ever had in my life. You know, 0:40:48.520 --> 0:40:50.000 there's just no rules anymore. 0:40:50.640 --> 0:40:53.640 I mean, I got Abby Chadfield's amazing and I sometimes 0:40:53.680 --> 0:40:55.040 I'm watching it. I'm looking at it and I'm like, 0:40:55.120 --> 0:40:57.520 am I looking at this? This is what I'm looking at? Like, 0:40:58.000 --> 0:40:59.719 you know, she's gone from telling me about what to 0:40:59.719 --> 0:41:01.719 do with my politics to all of a sudden just 0:41:01.760 --> 0:41:04.640 showing me her ass. And I'm like, well, you know, 0:41:04.920 --> 0:41:06.080 it's engaging content. 0:41:07.200 --> 0:41:10.480 I think Abby is fantastic and good enough for change. God, 0:41:10.520 --> 0:41:12.560 she's on news dot com you every day, and I 0:41:12.640 --> 0:41:14.960 presume she's in the Daily Mail five times a day. 0:41:14.960 --> 0:41:17.120 I mean, she is a walking headline now, and hey, 0:41:17.120 --> 0:41:18.400 if I'm a slept to get me out of here. 0:41:18.520 --> 0:41:21.439 Put her back where she belongs, then, you know, good 0:41:21.440 --> 0:41:21.719 for us. 0:41:22.040 --> 0:41:22.600 Why isn't she. 0:41:22.640 --> 0:41:24.600 Back, though, Alex, Why isn't she back? You've got Josh 0:41:24.640 --> 0:41:27.600 Moss and Flex Marmy. I believe to do the side show. 0:41:27.800 --> 0:41:29.359 You know, why didn't Abby come back and do that? 0:41:29.760 --> 0:41:33.120 I imagine that nine can't afford her anymore. So I'm 0:41:33.160 --> 0:41:35.680 just going to completely deflect this and say the side 0:41:35.719 --> 0:41:38.800 show has got nothing to do with myself or ITV. 0:41:38.920 --> 0:41:43.480 It's made completely by Channel nine Socials and a completely 0:41:43.480 --> 0:41:44.120 separate team. 0:41:44.480 --> 0:41:46.520 So I still think Cassidy should do that. I keep 0:41:46.600 --> 0:41:50.319 thinking Cassidy from the first season. I'm sure she thinks 0:41:50.320 --> 0:41:52.440 I'm a stalker because I follow her on Instagram and 0:41:52.480 --> 0:41:54.720 everything and she doesn't follow me back. But I write 0:41:54.719 --> 0:41:57.439 about her all the time, being like best reality TV 0:41:57.520 --> 0:41:59.040 contestants presenter. 0:41:59.320 --> 0:42:01.840 Why isn't she hosting these things? I don't understand. 0:42:02.120 --> 0:42:06.439 Well, look, you know, Sophie is our host. But at 0:42:06.480 --> 0:42:08.120 some point I Sophie decided she doesn't want to do 0:42:08.160 --> 0:42:10.279 it anymore, which I would hate her to do because 0:42:10.280 --> 0:42:12.520 I absolutely adore her and love her. But you know, 0:42:12.600 --> 0:42:15.200 there may well be an opening for an exlander. But 0:42:16.320 --> 0:42:18.160 Cassidy was God, she was good that the day that 0:42:18.239 --> 0:42:20.759 she stole Grant of Taylor just to be just out 0:42:20.760 --> 0:42:25.080 of spite was a major, magnificent reality TV moment. Keep 0:42:25.120 --> 0:42:28.000 an armed stellar this year who looks like Cassidy and 0:42:28.120 --> 0:42:30.440 is a bit like Cassidy You're going to love? 0:42:31.040 --> 0:42:34.600 Yeah, well, I'm there for that, which is amazing. I 0:42:34.640 --> 0:42:37.000 was also going to just quickly ask you about the 0:42:37.040 --> 0:42:38.759 fact that you know you'd be working on I'm a 0:42:38.760 --> 0:42:41.239 celebrity already by now, and it would be remissive me 0:42:41.280 --> 0:42:43.200 not to ask anything. But you know, with a huge 0:42:43.239 --> 0:42:45.760 name like boy George going into the Jungle this week 0:42:45.960 --> 0:42:48.960 for the UK series, I wondered whether or not you're 0:42:49.000 --> 0:42:51.000 going to look for bigger names. Not to say that 0:42:51.040 --> 0:42:53.640 the people you've been you know, the pools that you've 0:42:53.640 --> 0:42:55.960 been swimming in or whatever that's saying is has been 0:42:55.960 --> 0:42:58.759 that the celebrities aren't huge. But you have had a 0:42:58.760 --> 0:43:01.720 lot of success with not having to spend two million 0:43:01.760 --> 0:43:03.839 dollars on a Shane warn you know what I mean, Like, 0:43:03.960 --> 0:43:05.560 are you going to go back to looking for someone 0:43:05.680 --> 0:43:06.640 like boy George? 0:43:07.080 --> 0:43:09.440 God? Look, I'd love to say that we had the 0:43:09.480 --> 0:43:11.279 money that the UK have. I mean, they would be 0:43:11.320 --> 0:43:14.719 paying boy George a fortune. The joy of I'm a celebrity, 0:43:14.960 --> 0:43:17.600 as you know, as we just touched on before, is 0:43:18.760 --> 0:43:23.719 is rediscovery and so okay, So there's two types of people, 0:43:23.760 --> 0:43:25.600 and there's three types of people. And on the slip. 0:43:25.920 --> 0:43:29.399 Number one, people that everybody has heard of. That's Shane Warn, 0:43:29.640 --> 0:43:32.960 It's Grant Danya, It's Brendan Favohla, it's you know, it's 0:43:33.000 --> 0:43:36.239 the it's the big the big names that everybody has 0:43:36.360 --> 0:43:40.560 heard of. Number two is people that have perhaps you know, 0:43:41.120 --> 0:43:44.640 gone out of the limelight a little bit, and you know, 0:43:45.080 --> 0:43:47.160 we want to reintroduce them to the world because you know, 0:43:47.160 --> 0:43:50.279 they're great talent. Number three is people that most of 0:43:50.320 --> 0:43:52.319 the Free Toware audience have never heard of that we 0:43:52.360 --> 0:43:55.480 are absolutely convinced that they're brilliant and are socially famous. 0:43:55.600 --> 0:43:59.479 So that is Charlotte Crosby and Justin Lacko and Vicky 0:43:59.520 --> 0:44:03.879 Patterson and know that it's that type of person. I remember, Look, 0:44:04.080 --> 0:44:06.800 you know, Charlotte Crosby is one of the most famous 0:44:06.840 --> 0:44:10.799 reality TV contestants globally around the world. Right, and we 0:44:11.000 --> 0:44:12.960 still copped it when we put her in the jungle 0:44:13.000 --> 0:44:17.520 because most of your regular free to air TV viewers 0:44:17.680 --> 0:44:20.640 have no bloody idea who she is. The casting methodology 0:44:20.640 --> 0:44:22.359 of I'm a Celebrit is you always want about three 0:44:22.440 --> 0:44:25.560 or four people that you are convinced that ninety eight 0:44:25.560 --> 0:44:27.160 percent of people watching the show will have heard of. 0:44:27.320 --> 0:44:29.799 There is always an enormous amount of pressure to get 0:44:30.040 --> 0:44:33.000 famous people. And the title of the show doesn't help either, 0:44:33.040 --> 0:44:35.120 because it's called I'm a Celebrity, Get Me out of Here, 0:44:35.480 --> 0:44:37.880 But it should be it should be called I'm a 0:44:38.160 --> 0:44:40.880 recognizable face that a lot of people know, Get me 0:44:40.920 --> 0:44:42.479 out of here. That's what it should be called, because 0:44:42.520 --> 0:44:49.000 it's ad never worked. Look, I'd love to get someone 0:44:49.719 --> 0:44:53.719 like boy George in the show, but it's not easy 0:44:53.760 --> 0:44:55.960 to make. Trust me, it's not. It's not easy casting 0:44:55.960 --> 0:44:57.480 on a celeb You're in a. 0:44:57.520 --> 0:45:00.480 Title position though, because you're going back into Maine and ratings, 0:45:00.480 --> 0:45:02.200 Like you're in a ratings period now where you're going 0:45:02.239 --> 0:45:03.880 to be going up against a big show on the 0:45:03.880 --> 0:45:06.120 other net big shows on the other networks. You know, 0:45:06.160 --> 0:45:08.680 I kind of feel like I wondered whether because I 0:45:08.719 --> 0:45:11.160 kind of felt like the last few seasons have suited 0:45:11.400 --> 0:45:13.920 not having the biggest names because it's a summer series 0:45:14.160 --> 0:45:15.319 and it's I don't know. 0:45:15.640 --> 0:45:17.800 Well, look, I mean, you know, I don't feel the 0:45:17.880 --> 0:45:21.040 ratings or you always feel the ratings pressure wherever it's on. 0:45:23.840 --> 0:45:26.640 I don't mind that it's going into that April slot. 0:45:26.640 --> 0:45:28.760 I feel like, you know, we can take the Pepsi 0:45:28.840 --> 0:45:31.520 challenge against anyone because it's an established brand, and you know, 0:45:31.560 --> 0:45:34.080 I stand by the fact it's a really good, funny show. 0:45:34.560 --> 0:45:36.840 But you know, people have got to understand that the 0:45:36.880 --> 0:45:40.560 casting around I'm a celeb is not for the ten 0:45:40.719 --> 0:45:43.480 most famous people that we can find. It just doesn't 0:45:43.560 --> 0:45:46.480 work like that. I'm a Celebrity is about discovering people 0:45:46.520 --> 0:45:48.120 that you may not have heard of, but that a 0:45:48.120 --> 0:45:51.520 lot of people do know. It's about finding out new 0:45:51.560 --> 0:45:54.359 things about people that you definitely know, and it's about 0:45:54.400 --> 0:45:56.320 reminding you of people that you may have forgotten about. 0:45:56.440 --> 0:45:58.000 I love it when we get people that are right 0:45:58.080 --> 0:46:00.440 on the in the peak of their career, Like it 0:46:00.480 --> 0:46:03.160 is so hard to get a sportsman who is currently 0:46:03.239 --> 0:46:07.120 active because obviously they're a sportsman or an athlete because 0:46:07.120 --> 0:46:09.879 they've got the Olympics, or someone or an actor who 0:46:09.920 --> 0:46:12.399 is you know, in their prime, because you know they're 0:46:12.400 --> 0:46:14.920 getting millions dollars from making movies or you know, or 0:46:14.960 --> 0:46:18.600 a Netflix series or an HBO series or a you know, 0:46:18.640 --> 0:46:20.920 a singer who is currently number one in the charts. 0:46:21.160 --> 0:46:23.640 It's always going to be people who are on the 0:46:23.760 --> 0:46:27.279 up or have already reached their peak, and you want 0:46:27.320 --> 0:46:29.000 to remind them how good they are, because you're never 0:46:29.000 --> 0:46:31.120 going to get anybody at the peak of their career, 0:46:31.160 --> 0:46:33.440 because why would they come and sit in the jungle 0:46:33.440 --> 0:46:36.080 and eat ostrojass, you know, when they can sing a 0:46:36.120 --> 0:46:37.720 song and make millions of dollars. 0:46:37.920 --> 0:46:39.480 A lot of celebrities and narcissists. 0:46:39.480 --> 0:46:41.040 So I think that you rund up playing the fact 0:46:41.080 --> 0:46:42.879 that there's a lot of people that just want screen time, 0:46:42.960 --> 0:46:43.800 and those. 0:46:43.600 --> 0:46:46.200 People still exist that are big a list celebrities. 0:46:46.239 --> 0:46:48.200 I mean, give me three or four names that you 0:46:48.320 --> 0:46:50.920 believe that we could get that are a list celebrities 0:46:50.960 --> 0:46:53.000 that I can get to go to the jungle in April. 0:46:54.640 --> 0:46:57.320 Emma Bundon from The Spice Girls. I think she just 0:46:57.560 --> 0:47:01.440 get her. I think she would be fantastic. I know 0:47:01.480 --> 0:47:03.439 that you always want to get someone like Van dam 0:47:03.520 --> 0:47:05.600 or Steven Sigal or one of those people. I think that, 0:47:05.719 --> 0:47:08.640 oh they're too faded, they're not a big star. Keith Urban. 0:47:08.800 --> 0:47:10.959 I'd like to see Keith Urban in there talking about 0:47:11.040 --> 0:47:14.680 Nicole Kippen and how he feels about Tom Cruise stealing 0:47:14.719 --> 0:47:15.240 her children. 0:47:15.640 --> 0:47:18.120 Like you know, I just think. 0:47:19.280 --> 0:47:23.120 Is a multi multi millionaire though, and you know it's 0:47:23.719 --> 0:47:25.400 is he really going to go in, you know, without 0:47:25.440 --> 0:47:28.759 the makeup and without the styling and you know asking. 0:47:28.960 --> 0:47:31.800 Tell him you can have a GHD, say Urban, you 0:47:31.800 --> 0:47:34.359 could take You could take your GHD and nothing else. 0:47:34.400 --> 0:47:36.720 If you let Shane Bloody Warren have a few ciggy's 0:47:36.760 --> 0:47:38.560 on the side of the set, you can let Bloody 0:47:38.600 --> 0:47:40.759 Keith Urban get He's a GHD out and straight and 0:47:40.800 --> 0:47:41.080 he's here. 0:47:41.440 --> 0:47:43.120 I promised to ask him a bunt and that's a 0:47:43.120 --> 0:47:44.959 really good idea. I think we've tried it once before, 0:47:45.000 --> 0:47:45.920 but I'll try her again. 0:47:46.320 --> 0:47:48.040 I send you a list though, I've sent you a 0:47:48.040 --> 0:47:49.879 list and I don't want to even read it out 0:47:49.920 --> 0:47:51.440 now on this podcast in case it. 0:47:51.400 --> 0:47:52.879 Means that you don't want to go after them. 0:47:52.920 --> 0:47:56.400 But you know, I've got no shame. 0:47:56.400 --> 0:48:00.799 I go after anybody, honestly, Bloody DM me put more 0:48:00.800 --> 0:48:01.839 Instagram to you. 0:48:01.840 --> 0:48:03.560 You wrote back and said, thanks mate, I know at 0:48:03.640 --> 0:48:04.600 least three of those. 0:48:04.840 --> 0:48:07.719 I'm talking to your listeners. Anybody also send me any 0:48:07.719 --> 0:48:10.840 celebrity suggestions that are within reason. You know, there is 0:48:10.920 --> 0:48:14.040 no point in sending me Jason Momoa because we're not 0:48:14.080 --> 0:48:15.440 going to get them, do you know what I mean? Like, 0:48:15.520 --> 0:48:17.160 let's be let's be reasonable here. 0:48:18.400 --> 0:48:20.320 I think there are a few people on the prooferal anyway, 0:48:20.320 --> 0:48:21.840 I've send you that listen. I hope people listening to 0:48:21.880 --> 0:48:23.719 this also then hit you up and send you their 0:48:23.719 --> 0:48:26.120 list of people that they want, you know, join the conversation. 0:48:26.480 --> 0:48:29.960 Thank you, dear me. I always read the dms, even 0:48:30.000 --> 0:48:31.879 the ones on the request lists that you know that 0:48:31.960 --> 0:48:33.799 you pretend that you don't read. I've read them all. 0:48:34.120 --> 0:48:36.120 Can you tell us anything, just a small tease, like, 0:48:36.160 --> 0:48:37.759 what's something different than you're going to do with this? 0:48:37.920 --> 0:48:41.520 Like you, what's the general idea behind this? Is it 0:48:41.560 --> 0:48:43.640 a reboot of it because it's going into the main 0:48:44.200 --> 0:48:47.040 ratings period? Are there any conversations I. 0:48:47.040 --> 0:48:48.799 Think we're going to put. We will push the fact 0:48:48.800 --> 0:48:51.120 that we were live harder than it ever before because 0:48:51.280 --> 0:48:54.360 there is no live TV around at the moment. I 0:48:55.040 --> 0:48:57.160 kind of had a chortal to myself, and the boss 0:48:57.160 --> 0:48:59.960 of Channel seven said, live TV is back about Australia 0:49:00.320 --> 0:49:03.600 because I think they've got four or five live shows. 0:49:03.920 --> 0:49:05.640 People forget that I'm a sleb. To get me out 0:49:05.680 --> 0:49:09.399 of here is twenty one live shows, you know, over 0:49:09.520 --> 0:49:12.839 four weeks. You know, it's live every single morning from 0:49:12.880 --> 0:49:16.080 South Africa, every night from Australia, and it's ninety minutes 0:49:16.120 --> 0:49:19.719 of live TV every single day. So live TV really 0:49:19.760 --> 0:49:21.520 is back when I'm a slept and we're gonna we 0:49:21.560 --> 0:49:24.319 will ram that down people's throats because live TV is 0:49:24.560 --> 0:49:27.360 very exciting and very different at the moment. Like you know, 0:49:27.480 --> 0:49:29.920 what else is on TV other than sport and news 0:49:29.960 --> 0:49:33.280 that is genuinely, genuinely live. There's nothing. 0:49:33.719 --> 0:49:35.719 There's nothing, and we need it because that's you know, 0:49:35.800 --> 0:49:38.160 as I've talked about that a thousand times over and 0:49:38.280 --> 0:49:41.240 I know the complications of doing live TV, but live 0:49:41.280 --> 0:49:43.960 TV in Australia talks to the people that still watch 0:49:44.000 --> 0:49:46.000 Free to Wear. There isn't a day that goes by 0:49:46.120 --> 0:49:48.480 without some random person coming up and talking to me 0:49:48.480 --> 0:49:50.680 about Big Brother. And that was ten years ago. And 0:49:50.719 --> 0:49:52.680 they only come up not to talk about me. They 0:49:52.680 --> 0:49:55.120 come up to say that. Why isn't Big Brother like 0:49:55.200 --> 0:49:58.760 that anymore? Or why why are all these shows pre recorded? 0:49:58.800 --> 0:50:00.560 We don't like it. And that's because. 0:50:02.360 --> 0:50:05.200 Friday Night Live like that was a live game show 0:50:05.760 --> 0:50:06.759 every Friday night. 0:50:07.640 --> 0:50:10.040 That audience that you're talking like, the audience I'm talking 0:50:10.040 --> 0:50:12.440 about now was the perfect audience. And they were the 0:50:12.440 --> 0:50:14.840 ones that turned up for Friday night games. And that 0:50:15.000 --> 0:50:17.920 is they are a little bit like the underdog. They 0:50:17.920 --> 0:50:21.200 weren't popular at school. There the TV and the people 0:50:21.239 --> 0:50:23.879 on TV are their friends. You know, I could it's 0:50:23.920 --> 0:50:25.480 hard to pay the picture of them, but they're the 0:50:25.480 --> 0:50:27.120 ones that come up and talk to me on the street. 0:50:27.520 --> 0:50:30.120 And I want to say that they're lonely, but you know, 0:50:30.400 --> 0:50:32.359 television was a huge part of their life because they 0:50:32.360 --> 0:50:33.920 felt like they were a part of it, you know 0:50:33.960 --> 0:50:34.359 what I mean. 0:50:34.960 --> 0:50:39.720 And also I would say, you know, Julia Morris gets 0:50:39.760 --> 0:50:43.000 looser every single year so separated. 0:50:42.520 --> 0:50:44.040 From our husband, So are you going to make sure 0:50:44.080 --> 0:50:46.239 there's a plastic screen between her and doctor Chris Brown 0:50:46.239 --> 0:50:47.359 because I'm worried for his health. 0:50:47.400 --> 0:50:48.399 I'm really worried for him. 0:50:49.120 --> 0:50:51.120 Well, look, she's going to be on TV Live every 0:50:51.120 --> 0:50:53.839 single night, so at some point I'm sure she's going 0:50:53.840 --> 0:50:55.120 to put a foot in her mouth, and I'm sure 0:50:55.239 --> 0:50:56.440 with bloody gold when. 0:50:56.280 --> 0:50:58.759 She does, I can't wait. I can't wait. Anyway we are. 0:50:58.800 --> 0:51:00.759 We've literally gone on for a very long time, but 0:51:01.080 --> 0:51:03.800 I know these episodes are my highest rating episodes talking 0:51:03.840 --> 0:51:05.560 to you, so I'm hoping people are still. 0:51:05.440 --> 0:51:07.399 Probably because I say way too much and they'll get 0:51:07.400 --> 0:51:09.440 in tri get beaten up by David Moss at the 0:51:09.520 --> 0:51:11.560 end of it when he realizes all the stuff I've 0:51:11.560 --> 0:51:12.440 said that I'm not supposed to. 0:51:12.600 --> 0:51:14.320 I'll say to him, make sure we get approval. 0:51:14.360 --> 0:51:16.680 But I have to say this to you, like Jules, 0:51:16.719 --> 0:51:19.200 being from the block and being an executive producer in 0:51:19.280 --> 0:51:22.320 high regard, coming on the podcast also rated really well. 0:51:22.600 --> 0:51:25.359 But I can tell you there's so many producers that 0:51:25.400 --> 0:51:27.759 write to me and say I loved that episode with 0:51:27.840 --> 0:51:30.239 Jewels or I loved that episode with Alex, And I'm like, well, 0:51:30.280 --> 0:51:32.600 you produce one of the highest rating shows. Why can't 0:51:32.600 --> 0:51:34.440 you come on and talk? And they're like, oh no, 0:51:34.960 --> 0:51:36.440 They're like, oh no, I could never do that. 0:51:36.560 --> 0:51:38.560 Who you're chasing, Paul and time to do it? 0:51:38.640 --> 0:51:41.440 Give me some names, Caroline, I really like to have 0:51:41.600 --> 0:51:43.840 is in Spence I'd love to have Spence. 0:51:44.080 --> 0:51:45.920 Caroline's good talent. Why can't you get her? 0:51:46.239 --> 0:51:47.319 Because Warner's told her? 0:51:47.360 --> 0:51:50.319 No Ah, right, all right, how do all end us? 0:51:50.880 --> 0:51:51.680 We end up like this? 0:51:52.160 --> 0:51:55.520 Every time anyone joins the podcast, everyone gets asked the 0:51:55.520 --> 0:51:58.799 same question. And you've already done this twice, so you 0:51:58.840 --> 0:52:01.000 have to outdo yourself and both hit the Daily Mail. 0:52:01.120 --> 0:52:02.840 One of them, I think had one hundred and eighty 0:52:02.880 --> 0:52:05.680 reprints of a story around the world. So no pressure, 0:52:05.719 --> 0:52:09.480 my friend. I've got what what is something from behind 0:52:09.520 --> 0:52:12.719 the scenes, something that we won't see, something that you 0:52:12.719 --> 0:52:15.920 know is a kind of behind the scenes secret from 0:52:16.640 --> 0:52:19.239 making Love Island's let's keep it at Love Island. There's 0:52:19.239 --> 0:52:21.120 got to be something of a behind the scenes secret. 0:52:21.120 --> 0:52:21.640 It's a bit. 0:52:21.480 --> 0:52:22.920 Outrageous, all right. 0:52:23.080 --> 0:52:25.560 I'll tell you this one from Fiji. So this was 0:52:25.600 --> 0:52:28.520 a couple of years ago, but I, honestly, for a 0:52:28.640 --> 0:52:33.160 horrible thirty seconds thought I had a disabled Sophie Monk. 0:52:33.400 --> 0:52:38.759 So we had this deck in Fiji that had separation 0:52:38.840 --> 0:52:42.080 in between the wooden planks, and I remember when we 0:52:42.080 --> 0:52:44.920 were putting the villa together, I was saying, look, the 0:52:44.960 --> 0:52:48.640 girls wear stiletto heels and Sophie wears heels. We've got 0:52:48.719 --> 0:52:52.520 to narrow this gap in between the wood and so 0:52:52.600 --> 0:52:54.359 I kept going on about this, and we had all 0:52:54.360 --> 0:52:57.680 of the tradees and all these kind of Fijian workmen 0:52:57.920 --> 0:53:01.960 who you know, couldn't understand because everybody wears thongs or 0:53:02.000 --> 0:53:04.400 bare feet in Fiji. They had clearly never been asked 0:53:04.680 --> 0:53:08.000 to narrow the gap in between the wooden planks in 0:53:08.120 --> 0:53:11.799 their lives. So anyway, the gaps were narrowed. I don't 0:53:11.800 --> 0:53:14.280 know what they used. I'm going to say bloody blue tackle, 0:53:14.360 --> 0:53:17.080 chewing gum or something, because it clearly wasn't very effective, 0:53:17.360 --> 0:53:19.279 but they narrowed the gap between all these planks. We 0:53:19.360 --> 0:53:21.600 walked out, We inspected it yet great, all good, good 0:53:21.640 --> 0:53:23.560 to go, and we didn't have any issue when the 0:53:23.600 --> 0:53:25.760 girls walked in. So the girls walked out on episode 0:53:25.760 --> 0:53:27.759 one in their heels, and they all lined up and 0:53:27.880 --> 0:53:30.040 we did the pick and everything was fine. Sophie walks 0:53:30.080 --> 0:53:33.480 out for the first dumping. Now it's nighttime in Fiji. 0:53:33.680 --> 0:53:35.799 I'm in the control room. I'm in Sophie Monk's ere 0:53:36.200 --> 0:53:38.520 and every single time Sophie's walking into villa, I'm giving 0:53:38.560 --> 0:53:40.359 you a her the rev up you know, Okay, here 0:53:40.360 --> 0:53:43.120 we go. So remember you're going to talk to Josh 0:53:43.160 --> 0:53:45.480 first and you're going to ask him about Anna, and 0:53:45.520 --> 0:53:47.239 then you're going to talk to Cartier and you're going 0:53:47.280 --> 0:53:49.759 to ask her this, My god, you look amazing. Keep 0:53:49.800 --> 0:53:52.120 walking Island was going to be out, Oh you looked 0:53:52.200 --> 0:53:54.880 so hot. My god, that dress is amazing. And just 0:53:54.920 --> 0:53:56.759 as I was saying to her how hot and cool 0:53:56.840 --> 0:54:00.880 she looked, Sophie's heel goes right in between two of 0:54:00.880 --> 0:54:03.719 these planks of wood and she goes down like a 0:54:03.800 --> 0:54:10.160 sack of shit. And literally, Sophie Monk is sprawled on 0:54:10.280 --> 0:54:14.920 the deck in Fiji, and everybody went quiet, and the 0:54:14.920 --> 0:54:18.279 islanders didn't know whether to laugh or run up and 0:54:18.320 --> 0:54:20.160 help her, because you know, it's this dramatic kind of 0:54:20.200 --> 0:54:23.000 fire at the moment. And I've just like my heart 0:54:23.280 --> 0:54:27.239 just stopped because I thought, if Sophie his leg is broken. Here, 0:54:27.800 --> 0:54:31.399 the series is over because it's twenty it's a twenty 0:54:31.400 --> 0:54:34.239 four hour turnaround show. Because it's not like we could 0:54:34.600 --> 0:54:36.480 fly anybody. I mean, obviously we would have had to 0:54:36.480 --> 0:54:38.960 fly flown out of replacement. But it's going to take them, 0:54:39.239 --> 0:54:41.719 you know, two days to get there. What do we 0:54:41.760 --> 0:54:44.280 do about Yeah, well, yeah, what do we do about? 0:54:45.200 --> 0:54:47.160 We do we dump one of the Islanders and get 0:54:47.200 --> 0:54:49.080 them to host the show? You know, do we do 0:54:49.160 --> 0:54:51.560 we put a pair of heels on, you know, one 0:54:51.600 --> 0:54:53.279 of our production crew and get them to go in. 0:54:53.360 --> 0:54:55.160 Like I was absolutely panicked. 0:54:55.560 --> 0:54:58.040 So she would be great, not just an editor. She 0:54:58.200 --> 0:54:59.600 was little sister back in the day. 0:54:59.640 --> 0:55:02.000 She can do talent on Jarla rocks a pair of 0:55:02.080 --> 0:55:05.720 heels as well. When she when she when she wants to. Anyway, 0:55:05.760 --> 0:55:08.879 my heart was like had literally stopped. And Sophie Monk, 0:55:08.920 --> 0:55:12.279 God bless her, the ultimate professional hero that she has 0:55:12.880 --> 0:55:16.719 just bounced back up, swore a couple of times, you know, 0:55:17.040 --> 0:55:19.840 bowed to the Islanders who realized that they could clap 0:55:19.840 --> 0:55:23.760 and laugh, picked up a heel, walked straight back out, 0:55:23.840 --> 0:55:25.600 and then came in and did her sexy walk in 0:55:25.640 --> 0:55:29.440 all over again and everything was fine. For thirty seconds, 0:55:29.480 --> 0:55:30.600 I had killed Sophie Monk. 0:55:30.760 --> 0:55:32.520 Well, you know, I think that's amazing. 0:55:32.560 --> 0:55:34.719 And Sophie is so good, Like every time I run 0:55:34.760 --> 0:55:37.319 into her, she's really funny. She's everything that you see 0:55:37.320 --> 0:55:39.959 on television. She's kind of a bit you know there. 0:55:40.120 --> 0:55:42.239 I don't know why she's just so relatable, even though 0:55:42.280 --> 0:55:44.600 she looks like perfection, you know what I mean. 0:55:44.760 --> 0:55:46.839 Like, isn't that weird that she looks that good? 0:55:47.000 --> 0:55:48.759 I would love Sophie Monk to do imot to get 0:55:48.800 --> 0:55:51.359 me out of her. I'm not sure she's contractually contractually 0:55:51.400 --> 0:55:54.399 allowed to. Obviously she's She's Love on the Channel nine. 0:55:54.440 --> 0:55:56.799 But my god, SOPHI would do that show like. 0:55:56.880 --> 0:55:58.920 I don't think she cares like as much as she 0:55:58.960 --> 0:56:01.719 can turn into the glamour. I've also seen her like 0:56:01.760 --> 0:56:03.640 I've been on radio shows with her where she's just 0:56:03.640 --> 0:56:06.440 sitting in her tracksuit and she's great like that, you know, 0:56:06.520 --> 0:56:08.320 she's great, a little bit relaxed. 0:56:07.880 --> 0:56:10.920 And Sophie is a woman of the people. She says 0:56:10.960 --> 0:56:13.640 what the audience think. She asks the questions the audience 0:56:13.680 --> 0:56:19.080 want to ask. That's why she's so popular. She's just fantastic. 0:56:19.120 --> 0:56:21.200 She's so down to worth. I absolutely love her. 0:56:21.400 --> 0:56:23.960 Alex. I am obsessed with you, as you know. 0:56:24.360 --> 0:56:27.520 I think you are fantastic talent on this podcast. I 0:56:27.560 --> 0:56:29.880 really appreciate you coming on here and talking about Love Island. 0:56:29.880 --> 0:56:31.359 But to the audience out there. 0:56:31.239 --> 0:56:34.480 That is listening, you need to watch this show because 0:56:34.640 --> 0:56:35.480 it is addictive. 0:56:35.719 --> 0:56:38.760 It's addictive, like you know, and it's good addictive. 0:56:38.800 --> 0:56:40.960 It's not addictive like being a drunk or smoking tan 0:56:41.040 --> 0:56:43.640 packets of cigarettes. It's addictive like you know, you walk 0:56:43.680 --> 0:56:45.600 away feeling fun like it's a fun show. 0:56:45.760 --> 0:56:47.640 It's a great series. You are going to love it. 0:56:48.520 --> 0:56:50.759 Start watching it on nine now immediately if you haven't 0:56:50.760 --> 0:56:51.920 watched it yet, you're gonna love it. 0:56:52.000 --> 0:56:53.600 Amazing. Thanks so much for your time. 0:56:53.719 --> 0:56:55.520 Okay mate, thanks, Thanks Beren. Taking easy