WEBVTT - DARREN MCMULLEN SETS SAIL ON THE REAL LOVE BOAT

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<v Speaker 1>It's in the news today, but it was actually on

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<v Speaker 1>TV presenter, actor, entrepreneur and jack of all trades. It

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<v Speaker 1>is the host of The Real Love Boat, Darren McMullen.

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<v Speaker 1>The original TV series The Love Boat was a huge

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<v Speaker 1>hit around the world with fictitious characters falling in love.

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<v Speaker 1>But now it is a reality show like we've never

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<v Speaker 1>seen before. The contestants are raw, a little unpolished, and

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<v Speaker 1>ready to find love on a cruise ship sailing around

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<v Speaker 1>the Meridian. I think the show might be a slow

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<v Speaker 1>burn to begin with, but as the ship sets sail,

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<v Speaker 1>I guarantee the viewers will be shocked as the show

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<v Speaker 1>ventures into territories we have yet to see on a

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<v Speaker 1>dating show before. I will ask Darren why he said

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<v Speaker 1>yes to the show, what he thinks of the contestants,

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<v Speaker 1>how this show is different, and what we can expect

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<v Speaker 1>from this format as it gets deep within the minds

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<v Speaker 1>of young singles desperate to find love. However, let's get

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<v Speaker 1>started with today's guest. I'd like to welcome Darren McMullen

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<v Speaker 1>to TV Reload.

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<v Speaker 2>We created something that was quite different. Welcome to the

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<v Speaker 2>Real Love Boat. We don't just need a standard host,

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<v Speaker 2>we need a host that can be cheeky. Thirteen singles

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<v Speaker 2>are vot to and bark on the Ultimate Search for Love.

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<v Speaker 2>Channel ten and Paramount are really really getting behind this show.

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<v Speaker 2>They want this to be a big success.

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<v Speaker 1>Will they find a match and have their happily Ever?

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<v Speaker 2>After all the guys on the show are beautiful, lovely,

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<v Speaker 2>vulnerable man. No one ever said true love would be easy. Look,

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<v Speaker 2>it is a pretty open shows to say we're breaking

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<v Speaker 2>that fourth wall. It's something like we're all pretty keen

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<v Speaker 2>to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, Darren, great to have you on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>What a voice? I mean, you've really missed your calling,

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<v Speaker 2>haven't you. You should have been like a sexphone operator

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<v Speaker 2>or something. Hi, Darren, how are you? I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 2>first thing in the morning, and I don't usually get

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<v Speaker 2>horny in the morning, but that made me a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit horny. That was nice, right, Yeah, I do. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a complete narcissist. I have to open up some windows

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<v Speaker 2>in here. It's getting steamy.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you excited to finally show us your latest holiday

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<v Speaker 1>in Europe?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad you clarified that. Are you excited to finally

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<v Speaker 2>show us, with a very weird pause, your latest holiday

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<v Speaker 2>in Europe? Yes, I am excited to show you my

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<v Speaker 2>latest holiday in Europe, although we don't call it that.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't call it a holiday. Because the Channel ten

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<v Speaker 2>knew it was a holiday, then they probably would get

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<v Speaker 2>me to do it for free. It was very hard work.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very very hard, strenuous work, seeing the Mediterranean, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and all these awful locations like you know, Tuscany and

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<v Speaker 2>Rome and the Greek Islands and Barcelona, and it was horrendous.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's that's why they pay me the medium bucks,

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<v Speaker 2>because I do the hard work. So I am looking

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<v Speaker 2>forward to everybody seeing it. I think we created something

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<v Speaker 2>that was quite different and special and something I've certainly

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<v Speaker 2>never seen on TV before. We kind of make fun

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<v Speaker 2>of ourselves. We lean into the nostalgic cheese of the

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<v Speaker 2>original series, and we break the fourth wall a lot

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<v Speaker 2>and kind of invite the audience in to laugh with

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<v Speaker 2>us a lot. I go eight shit at the contestants constantly.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope they lieve all that in because I've never

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<v Speaker 2>seen a host of that before. And yeah, amongst it all,

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<v Speaker 2>there is the drama and the love triangles and the

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<v Speaker 2>backstabbing and the partners swapping an ant. We even have

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<v Speaker 2>love blossoming. So I think ultimately it's got all the

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<v Speaker 2>pieces there to be a phenomenal show, and I hope

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<v Speaker 2>that comes together well in the edit.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the concept to me is really hilarious because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to say show my age, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as a huge Aaron Spelling fan back in the day,

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<v Speaker 1>how much do you guys really lean into the whole

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<v Speaker 1>love boat theme?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, funny, you should mention the love boat theme because

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<v Speaker 2>I actually sing the love boat theme song in this

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<v Speaker 2>and that is available to donal kids on Spotify are

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<v Speaker 2>all great retailers now, so make sure you do that.

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to run a Christmas number one, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we do. We have the captain character who's called Paolo

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<v Speaker 2>Captain Poolo, who's an absolute dream boat. He was going

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<v Speaker 2>to be cast, but we met the actual captain of

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<v Speaker 2>the ship and he was so dreaming and sexy and

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<v Speaker 2>camer ready that I think all the producers thought, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the guy. He's the actual captain of the

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<v Speaker 2>ship and he's fantastic. How could you cast better than that?

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<v Speaker 2>And he actually has a great connection with the Love

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<v Speaker 2>By himself. His grandfather was the chef on the original

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<v Speaker 2>Love Boa TV series way back when, so so that

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<v Speaker 2>that was great. And then we've got Hannah Ferrier from

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<v Speaker 2>Below Deck, which is my guilty pleasure. I love that show.

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<v Speaker 2>We have Daniel Judy as a head of entertainment. So

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<v Speaker 2>we have this cast of characters that are kind of

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<v Speaker 2>meddling in the relationships and helping them kind of find

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<v Speaker 2>love and putting people in the right situations and all

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of stuff. And we have the captain and

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<v Speaker 2>we have these singles looking for Love, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>the producers did a very good job of kind of

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<v Speaker 2>weeding out the insta famous wannabes, you know, and actually

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<v Speaker 2>got some people that truly were looking to find a

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<v Speaker 2>long term partner and maybe had some issues in the

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<v Speaker 2>past with different relationships, and they were beyond that part

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<v Speaker 2>of the life. And I think when you see the

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<v Speaker 2>cast of characters, they're not your quintessential reality TV show folks.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not all Jim junkies with the six packs and

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<v Speaker 2>the you know, the bowtux and all the rest of that.

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<v Speaker 2>They've done that not to say our cast is ugly.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry cast if you're listening, But I'm just saying they're

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<v Speaker 2>average Australians. You know, their every day is average. Even

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<v Speaker 2>sounds like I'm saying they're they're every day Australian, which

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<v Speaker 2>I think is good because you know, when you see

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<v Speaker 2>these people on these other shows and all tat it

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<v Speaker 2>up with a you know, like eight pack and the

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<v Speaker 2>whole bit, you know, all these people are the same.

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<v Speaker 2>This isn't real. But you know, I think we've done

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<v Speaker 2>a good job of finding some real strat real Aussi's

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<v Speaker 2>mate for the real Love Boat.

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<v Speaker 1>It is the point of difference to the show if

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<v Speaker 1>you ask me. And we'll get into that in a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>but I just want to say with Hannah and Duty,

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<v Speaker 1>they're kind of like peeping toms on the boat, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like they're always sort of standing in the background, just

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<v Speaker 1>watching over what's happening. Do you think that they'd be

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<v Speaker 1>offended for me to be referring to them as peeping toms?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, they're not just like that. On the boat, I

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<v Speaker 2>was constantly looking over, and you know, even off the

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<v Speaker 2>show and finding duty creeping around the corner and watching me. So,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it was he was well cast for it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, you know, a bit of life. They've imitating

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<v Speaker 2>art or art imitating life. There's a couple of weird scenes,

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<v Speaker 2>isn't there. I know what you're talking about because I

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<v Speaker 2>have seen the first couple of episodes in there, like

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<v Speaker 2>coming up from behind plant bushes and stuff, staring at

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<v Speaker 2>these people. But yeah, I don't think they'd be offended

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<v Speaker 2>by that. I think it'll I think that's one of

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<v Speaker 2>the parts that kind of leans into the kind of

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<v Speaker 2>cheesiness and makes fun of itself a bit, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like it's kind of tongue in cheek when they're doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they're there for a very real reason. I

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<v Speaker 2>probably will put them in a video village somewhere and

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<v Speaker 2>had them watching actual cameras as opposed to like creeping

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<v Speaker 2>around the boat and hiding behind bushes. But I think,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, that's a little bit of a tongue in

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<v Speaker 2>cheek nod to the original TV series where that was

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<v Speaker 2>going on all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, well, in the original TV series, you know

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<v Speaker 1>of the love, but the captain the event plans, they

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes got involved in the drama. Can we can we

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<v Speaker 1>expect you guys to getting involved in the drama that

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<v Speaker 1>happens throughout the series.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, we have a great section of the show

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<v Speaker 2>called Captain's Table, So basically the singles taken in turns

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<v Speaker 2>both male and female of coming in there and sitting

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<v Speaker 2>around the table and pitching to go on one of

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<v Speaker 2>the destination days for any port we go to. There's

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<v Speaker 2>only three destination dates to be one, so they can

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<v Speaker 2>go beautiful car ride through Tuscany or make wine or

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they're off to the Greek Islands or whatever

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<v Speaker 2>it is. So they have to come in and, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>pitch for why their connection with their partner is the

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<v Speaker 2>best and why they deserve to go. So I'd just

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<v Speaker 2>come straight off Celebrity Apprentice, and I think I was

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<v Speaker 2>probably channeling a lot of that Lord's sugar energy. And

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<v Speaker 2>I was just going through these people like I don't

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<v Speaker 2>believe a word you say. I don't even think you

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<v Speaker 2>believe your own bullshit, man, And it really shook them

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<v Speaker 2>up a bit, you know, But we got some great,

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<v Speaker 2>great things because sometimes what happens, especially people are new

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<v Speaker 2>to TV or whatever else, they kind of get in

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<v Speaker 2>this autopilot just kept saying the same soundbites over and

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<v Speaker 2>over again, and maybe like playing into stuff they think

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<v Speaker 2>you want to hear. And I think sometimes if you

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<v Speaker 2>can just kind of shake that out of them with

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<v Speaker 2>some direct chat, you get some really good stuff. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm hoping they leave a lot of that in And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and Hannah gets pretty fiery in there as well, and

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<v Speaker 2>then Perdudi's in there basically to pick up the pieces.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like good cop, bad cop. He's just so

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<v Speaker 2>lovely and they need him in there to kind of

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<v Speaker 2>balance my assholeery a bit. He's you know, like he's

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<v Speaker 2>topping them off the ledge once I've g them all up.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's a great little dynamic. We need a little

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<v Speaker 2>dooty in there. There's the comfort blanket and to yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>get them all feeling nice. And happy after Hannah and

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<v Speaker 2>I oprated them for a couple of hours. Can you

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<v Speaker 2>hear that drilling?

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<v Speaker 1>Way? Thank God, I'm actually running. I went unplugged this

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<v Speaker 1>so that I could run you through a different system

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<v Speaker 1>to drown out any background noise that but we both have,

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<v Speaker 1>so you sound amazing, like the best sound.

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<v Speaker 2>God, I've got drilling, and I've got a leaf blower,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you know some guy with a whipper snapper.

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<v Speaker 2>Fuck's sake, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I lived in Melbourne in a suburb called Turek, which

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<v Speaker 1>sounds really fancy when it's not. The worst thing about

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<v Speaker 1>living in a fancy suburb is that everyone has their

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<v Speaker 1>own gardener and they all have a leaf blower. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a podcaster, so there's just me out the window

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<v Speaker 1>of my apartment, you know, every day week swearing at

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<v Speaker 1>these people. Shut the fuck up podcasting, you know, which

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<v Speaker 1>makes me sound like the biggest loser in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>These neighbors of mine, they have gardeners in four times

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<v Speaker 2>a week. What they do I don't know, Like I

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<v Speaker 2>think what happens is they blow the leaves into the

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<v Speaker 2>next door neighbors garden and then their guy comes in

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<v Speaker 2>and they blow them back in So it's this little

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<v Speaker 2>scam that got going on just to kind of keep business.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I remember once I said, I'm actually doing a

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<v Speaker 1>live cross to a TV network and the gardener said

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<v Speaker 1>to me, which TV network? And I said which TV network?

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<v Speaker 1>And he said, oh, their garbage, don't worry about.

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<v Speaker 2>It, and which network? Which network? Was it?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's just rude for me to put that into

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast, but I think it's still the joke still

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<v Speaker 1>lands down, The joke still lands. Everyone can use their imagination. Anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>We're getting back into the love boat, the real love boat.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>What I thought was really interesting is this kind of

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<v Speaker 1>is a little bit like Love Island, Old Maths, The Bachelor,

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<v Speaker 1>and now there's Heartbreak Island. There's so many dating shows,

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<v Speaker 1>but I wanted to ask you, what do you think

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<v Speaker 1>is the major difference of this show to them? And

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<v Speaker 1>what do you make of the comparisons.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that was how it was bitch to me. So

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<v Speaker 2>when I initially was approached to do it, I went,

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<v Speaker 2>it's weird and I don't know because I wasn't. I wasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't aware there was a show called the love

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<v Speaker 2>But back in the day, but that was about it.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't watch that in Scotland. I think it was

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<v Speaker 2>very big in Australia. It was very big in the US. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>it was so big in Australia. Actually they shot a

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<v Speaker 2>whole episode here. They came over here for a week

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<v Speaker 2>and shot a bunch of episodes and actually put Cruising

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<v Speaker 2>on the map here. I think because of that show,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people in Australia caught the bug for Cruising.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just like the sense a bit weird. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if I want to do this. And I

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<v Speaker 2>looked it up online and I saw Eureka Productions were

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<v Speaker 2>doing it, and I know those guys really well. So

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<v Speaker 2>I called Chris Coldner and I knew he was the

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<v Speaker 2>kind of the brains behind it, and he's a genius.

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<v Speaker 2>He's praised so many phenomenal shows, you know, like Holy

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<v Speaker 2>Moly and Frogger and The Chef's Line. I mean, they

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<v Speaker 2>do they just they just do everything that's you If

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<v Speaker 2>you guys are killing it, the luck's listing, So I

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<v Speaker 2>know they know how to make a great show. And

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<v Speaker 2>I said, mate, run me through this, because you know

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to pass on this. But I saw your

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<v Speaker 2>name attached, and you don't really make ship television, So

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<v Speaker 2>give me the elevator pitch, and he did. He gave

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<v Speaker 2>me a phenomenal pitches. It's going to be brilliant, it's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be phenomenal. We're like leaning into the old seventies show.

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<v Speaker 2>We need a host that is not We don't just

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<v Speaker 2>need a standard house. We need a host that can

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<v Speaker 2>be cheeky, funny, a reverend, take the piss out of

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<v Speaker 2>himself and the contestants, and but get the business done

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<v Speaker 2>as well. And you're the guy, like, we'd love to

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<v Speaker 2>have you on it, and he essentially said the same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It was kind of like it was, Oh, Hannah, Fario

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<v Speaker 2>is calling me. Stop annoying me, Hannah, I'm on I'm

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<v Speaker 2>on a podcast. He said. It's like it's like Love

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<v Speaker 2>Island meets Below Deck and Below Decks probably the only

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<v Speaker 2>reality show I watch, you know, like it's my guilty pleasure.

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<v Speaker 2>And during COVID especially, it was fantastic to watch that,

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<v Speaker 2>not just for the drama and all the salacious stuff

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<v Speaker 2>that happens on that show, but because they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>these beautiful destinations all round the world, and it was

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like living the cares through them and just

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<v Speaker 2>throffing on the opportunity to travel again one day. And

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<v Speaker 2>I hope people get that from this as well, because

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to all these beautiful destinations around the world

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<v Speaker 2>and you get to see that aspect of it as

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<v Speaker 2>well as the love and the drama. And then it ensues.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, so he really sold it to me, and

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<v Speaker 2>he said, you know it's going to be it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be incredible show. CBS are picked up Channel ten

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<v Speaker 2>and Paramount are really really getting behind this show. They

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<v Speaker 2>want this to be a big success. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to be. You're going to be the right

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<v Speaker 2>guy for the job. And he says, your bloody's sailing

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<v Speaker 2>the Mediterranean for a month anyway, so stop being an idiot.

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<v Speaker 2>Do the show. And I was like, yeah, you're right,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't think. I mean, I think we know

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<v Speaker 2>the show on paper. It was like, all right, yeah, cool,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a Dani's show and it's on a ship s

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<v Speaker 2>leaning into the love boat. Yet cool whatever, And then

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<v Speaker 2>they had the beats of you know, like normal dating

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<v Speaker 2>shows where people go on dates, they get on, they

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<v Speaker 2>don't get on, and people are eliminated. But what actually

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<v Speaker 2>happened in the reality of being there. The show took

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<v Speaker 2>on a life of its own, which is a great

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<v Speaker 2>thing when you're doing a first season or something. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>so many times nowadays, people especially in Australia, they're just

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<v Speaker 2>not taking those risks on new formats. It's like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>unless this show was a success and you know three

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<v Speaker 2>other regions, we're not going to take a punt on that.

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<v Speaker 2>So then you end up doing the same shows over

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<v Speaker 2>and over and over and over again, and rehashing old

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<v Speaker 2>shows that you know went away ten years ago and going, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>well that's that's we'll just bring that back even though

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<v Speaker 2>it work ten years ago, rather than you know, picking

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<v Speaker 2>up some of these phenomenal new ideas that young creators have.

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<v Speaker 2>And maybe if they picked up more ideas that the

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<v Speaker 2>young creators have, they would appeal more to the young people,

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<v Speaker 2>and young people would actually start watching television again instead

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<v Speaker 2>of like getting television hits elsewhere streaming services and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 2>But they rehashed the old shows. But this is I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>this is one of the first shows I can remember

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<v Speaker 2>in a long time that was straight off the paper

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<v Speaker 2>in Australia's that you know, the first one is doing this,

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<v Speaker 2>having a crack at this show and trying to make

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<v Speaker 2>it a hit. So yeah, back to what I was

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<v Speaker 2>saying is, you know, it became, it took on a

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<v Speaker 2>life of its own and organically changed into a whole

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<v Speaker 2>other show that none of us expected. You know, it

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<v Speaker 2>does have elements of maps, and it does have elements

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<v Speaker 2>of Love Island in it, and Below Deck and travel

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<v Speaker 2>shows as well. You're getting all that, but you know

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<v Speaker 2>all the other drama that unpacked between the contestants and

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<v Speaker 2>then that Captain's table when we get a chance to

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<v Speaker 2>really grill them and put them through their paces and

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<v Speaker 2>make them sing for their supper. It was just like

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<v Speaker 2>it was really good stuff, really good stuff. And I

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<v Speaker 2>hope that comes together in an edit. Obviously you should

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<v Speaker 2>so much content on these shows, and then you've got

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<v Speaker 2>it all down to like an hour worth of television.

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<v Speaker 2>So I hope it comes across. I've seen the first

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<v Speaker 2>couple of episodes, and I think we do stay true

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<v Speaker 2>to that. We do. We do keep in the irreverence,

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<v Speaker 2>We keep in things that would normally get shaped out

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<v Speaker 2>of reality shows, like the warts and all. We leave

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<v Speaker 2>that in. We leave in mistakes, We leave in silly

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<v Speaker 2>things and break that fourth wall and kind of, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>give that little nod and a wink to the audience

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<v Speaker 2>at home, like we're letting them on the joke as well.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that's all important. I think while a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of younger people are turning away from television and

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<v Speaker 2>getting their media elsewhere, is because of the authenticity of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think people crave off authenticity, man. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>when people are just doing raw TikTok or Instagram videos,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no glitz and glam to that, and people really

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<v Speaker 2>identify with that. And although this is a sexy show,

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<v Speaker 2>we've taken out some of that polish that you would

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<v Speaker 2>normally get on these kind of shows and left it

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<v Speaker 2>a bit gritty. And I think that's going to appeal

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<v Speaker 2>to the younger demographic because it's real and it's honest

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<v Speaker 2>and it's raw and it's keeping its integrity.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I hope that people stick around because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to be really honest about it. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so nervous watching this series, and the first episode

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<v Speaker 1>is quite long, and I kind of wish that you

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<v Speaker 1>got to the boat faster. I was like, why are

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<v Speaker 1>we going to the villa. We need to get to

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<v Speaker 1>the boat, like that's the whole thing is about the boat.

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<v Speaker 1>And then for me, the show lifts at episode two

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<v Speaker 1>because that's rightly when it says to you who this

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<v Speaker 1>show is going to be. And I think that's where

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<v Speaker 1>we are really seeing some things that are really different.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I rewound a part of it back because

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<v Speaker 1>I think you managed to tackle I think you managed

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<v Speaker 1>to give us the first real example of bisexual people

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<v Speaker 1>on a dating show, you know, which is hard to

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<v Speaker 1>do because bisexual men probably have the hardest job in

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<v Speaker 1>getting mainstream media to understand them. The way in which

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<v Speaker 1>that it was handled was it just subtenly was slipped

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<v Speaker 1>in there, and it gives us something new to digest.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, how are they going to do this? This

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<v Speaker 1>is a really hard topic, but for some reason the

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<v Speaker 1>producers are going to try and tackle it. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>where for me, your point of difference comes out, where

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, oh, this is going to be really uncomfortable

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<v Speaker 1>as well as being familiar. And I think that's the

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<v Speaker 1>magic of this show and I hope that's when people

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<v Speaker 1>will give it a chance.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's I mean, and that's the genius of Emma

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<v Speaker 2>Lamb as well. So Emma Lamb, who executive produced a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of Masks and the rest of it. She and

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<v Speaker 2>she and I are very much on the same page

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<v Speaker 2>of that, as like, some of the best television you

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<v Speaker 2>get and can get off people is when you're just

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<v Speaker 2>really comfortable in uncomfortable situations. And I've worked very hard

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<v Speaker 2>over my career to be at that point where I

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<v Speaker 2>can I can just let I can just sit quietly

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<v Speaker 2>and let it unplay, and I'm very comfortable in uncomfortable silences,

0:18:13.440 --> 0:18:16.120
<v Speaker 2>and that's when you get some really really great stuff. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the show is uncomfortable, but it's real, you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>all that stuff played out like it played out. It's

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<v Speaker 2>so fun, Like don't you talk to me? I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's even so many radio interviews that I'm like, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>But it's all scripted. There's a reality TV script, Like

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<v Speaker 2>reality TV is very rarely scripted, like actuals, like like

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<v Speaker 2>we're handing out scripts to these people and saying this

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<v Speaker 2>is your line, and then you say this, and then

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<v Speaker 2>he's going to say that. That never happens, like unless you're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about the hills or something like that. Yeah, there's

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<v Speaker 2>like there's definitely manipulation of real people in some shows

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<v Speaker 2>to bring out the worst of them. But I think

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<v Speaker 2>the people you see on these shows that become the

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<v Speaker 2>villains become the villains because they're actually assholes in the

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<v Speaker 2>real life, and they do a great job of kind

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<v Speaker 2>of keeping the asshole hidden for the for the a

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<v Speaker 2>few weeks. A bit like when you're in a new relationship, right,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't really find out who you're dating until after

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<v Speaker 2>that three month mark and you're like, oh shit, what

0:19:07.080 --> 0:19:11.960
<v Speaker 2>happening here? You're so nice? Now you let that wall down.

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<v Speaker 2>But the reason these producers try and manipulate the situations

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<v Speaker 2>is because you've got these people for just a matter

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<v Speaker 2>of weeks instead of a matter of months, so they've

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<v Speaker 2>got to get to the grip a lot sooner. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean there was very little. In fact, there was none,

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<v Speaker 2>and this show will say like, this was a show

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<v Speaker 2>where these people were just left to be themselves, putting

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<v Speaker 2>these situations on a boat and left, you know, to

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<v Speaker 2>go on the dates. And we just sat back and

0:19:36.320 --> 0:19:39.239
<v Speaker 2>were flying the wall, and we were very comfortable just

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<v Speaker 2>sitting in uncomfortable scenes and letting them play out rather

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<v Speaker 2>than getting in and meddling with them. Just let it

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<v Speaker 2>play out. I mean, that's life, and that's that's hopefully

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<v Speaker 2>why the authenticity will come across. I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope people stick around. I will even say, like,

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<v Speaker 2>because I mean narrating all these episodes, so I would

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<v Speaker 2>say six, seven, and eight are actually I think, phenomenal

0:20:01.119 --> 0:20:04.719
<v Speaker 2>bits of television. And that's when the show really pops

0:20:04.760 --> 0:20:07.680
<v Speaker 2>from me. It's actually later episodes. I think by that time,

0:20:07.720 --> 0:20:11.000
<v Speaker 2>you know the cast of characters, you're invested in them two.

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<v Speaker 2>But the drama that kicks off in six and it

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<v Speaker 2>plays out all the way through like three episodes and

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<v Speaker 2>just creates this domino effect on this ship where every

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<v Speaker 2>trapped is brilliant television. And it's one of those shows. Unfortunately,

0:20:25.840 --> 0:20:27.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, if you shot I don't know, if you

0:20:27.720 --> 0:20:30.080
<v Speaker 2>shot like say a big music quiz like I did,

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<v Speaker 2>and all the rest of it, you shoot a whole

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of episodes, and then you have the opportunity to

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<v Speaker 2>kind of cut in and decide what your strongest episode

0:20:37.880 --> 0:20:40.520
<v Speaker 2>is and you can put that first, and your second

0:20:40.560 --> 0:20:42.920
<v Speaker 2>best episode will go second, third, all the way down

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<v Speaker 2>to the end, and then your last couple episodes probably

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<v Speaker 2>what you consider the weekends. Unfortunately, because of the story

0:20:48.800 --> 0:20:50.840
<v Speaker 2>line of this show, you have to play it out

0:20:50.920 --> 0:20:52.879
<v Speaker 2>how it played out. Yeah, I would say, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>first couple of episodes, everyone's getting to know each other,

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<v Speaker 2>learning about you know, who they are, and they've got

0:20:58.200 --> 0:21:00.840
<v Speaker 2>those walls up still you haven't really they forgot about

0:21:00.840 --> 0:21:02.920
<v Speaker 2>the cameras. And then as you get into it just

0:21:02.960 --> 0:21:05.520
<v Speaker 2>keeps getting better and better and better. And it's and

0:21:05.960 --> 0:21:07.920
<v Speaker 2>six as I say, six, seven and eight are just

0:21:08.000 --> 0:21:10.560
<v Speaker 2>phenomenal bits of television. So I hope it's something people

0:21:10.600 --> 0:21:13.280
<v Speaker 2>stick with or you know, even binge later and go

0:21:13.359 --> 0:21:15.120
<v Speaker 2>through the whole thing and it gets good.

0:21:15.280 --> 0:21:18.080
<v Speaker 1>They're willing to take it to a different level. I mean,

0:21:18.080 --> 0:21:19.960
<v Speaker 1>do you think this is the most open minded group

0:21:20.000 --> 0:21:23.560
<v Speaker 1>of contestants we've seen on an Australian dating.

0:21:23.240 --> 0:21:25.320
<v Speaker 2>Show and say one hundred percent. And again that comes

0:21:25.400 --> 0:21:28.639
<v Speaker 2>down to all the producers and then really sifting through

0:21:28.960 --> 0:21:32.639
<v Speaker 2>all the riff raff and the people that generally auditioned

0:21:32.640 --> 0:21:36.520
<v Speaker 2>to be on these shows to get some really great

0:21:36.560 --> 0:21:40.000
<v Speaker 2>and different cast of characters. There, I'd say, another big

0:21:40.080 --> 0:21:42.359
<v Speaker 2>thing that changes the whole Like so usually in a

0:21:42.400 --> 0:21:44.879
<v Speaker 2>dating show you have very little interaction with the hosts

0:21:44.960 --> 0:21:46.879
<v Speaker 2>or people on the show, right, like they rock up

0:21:46.880 --> 0:21:48.960
<v Speaker 2>to give you a challenge, rock up to kick you out.

0:21:49.200 --> 0:21:52.639
<v Speaker 2>So the hosts aren't really involved either. But I'm on

0:21:52.680 --> 0:21:54.359
<v Speaker 2>a ship like there's nothing else to do, right, So

0:21:54.440 --> 0:21:57.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm sitting I'm watching every day on play and really

0:21:58.160 --> 0:22:00.800
<v Speaker 2>like over what's going on on that ship. So I

0:22:00.840 --> 0:22:02.719
<v Speaker 2>know when I'm going in, I'm interacting with them at

0:22:02.720 --> 0:22:04.800
<v Speaker 2>all these elimination ceremonies and all the rest of it,

0:22:04.840 --> 0:22:07.320
<v Speaker 2>which we call the test of ceremony. I know what's

0:22:07.359 --> 0:22:10.160
<v Speaker 2>happened on every date, so I can can dig into

0:22:10.200 --> 0:22:11.760
<v Speaker 2>it and if they pick up, if they say something

0:22:11.760 --> 0:22:13.679
<v Speaker 2>and I don't quite believe, I can jump into that.

0:22:13.960 --> 0:22:16.560
<v Speaker 2>And the Captain's table was great for that because you've

0:22:16.560 --> 0:22:18.440
<v Speaker 2>got me hand and Diddy like really grilling these people

0:22:18.440 --> 0:22:20.159
<v Speaker 2>of why they deserve to be on these date. What

0:22:20.359 --> 0:22:22.560
<v Speaker 2>is it that you've found with this person, and why

0:22:22.600 --> 0:22:24.920
<v Speaker 2>do you think this connection is real? And I was

0:22:25.000 --> 0:22:28.240
<v Speaker 2>quite vulnerable in those in that room too, because I

0:22:28.240 --> 0:22:30.560
<v Speaker 2>made a decision Earlier's like, listen, if I go in

0:22:30.600 --> 0:22:33.040
<v Speaker 2>there as a host and not as one of them,

0:22:33.160 --> 0:22:35.440
<v Speaker 2>then they'll close up and they'll get into TV email.

0:22:35.480 --> 0:22:37.560
<v Speaker 2>But if I go in there and I'm open and

0:22:37.560 --> 0:22:40.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm vulnerable, and I talk about my mistakes and relationships

0:22:40.200 --> 0:22:42.080
<v Speaker 2>I've made and all the things that I've learned about

0:22:42.119 --> 0:22:44.760
<v Speaker 2>and great relationships I've had, bad relationships I've had, and

0:22:44.760 --> 0:22:46.920
<v Speaker 2>I put all my dirty laundry out there. Then they

0:22:47.000 --> 0:22:50.280
<v Speaker 2>feel comfortable in doing the same. There's something quite beautiful,

0:22:50.560 --> 0:22:52.159
<v Speaker 2>especially when we had the guys in there, you know,

0:22:52.200 --> 0:22:54.679
<v Speaker 2>because Australian men a bit like British men, we have

0:22:54.840 --> 0:22:58.359
<v Speaker 2>this ridiculous stigma like that we try and live up to,

0:22:58.520 --> 0:23:00.960
<v Speaker 2>like you have to be match showing eyes, don't cry,

0:23:01.000 --> 0:23:03.440
<v Speaker 2>and guys don't have emotions, and guys shouldn't have the therapists.

0:23:03.440 --> 0:23:05.160
<v Speaker 2>You just have a being make get on with it.

0:23:05.240 --> 0:23:07.800
<v Speaker 2>You know, she'll be right. All that can attitude. Yet

0:23:07.800 --> 0:23:09.639
<v Speaker 2>we're living in a country with the highest rate of

0:23:09.640 --> 0:23:12.840
<v Speaker 2>males SUSAE almost in the world, this beautiful country. So

0:23:12.920 --> 0:23:15.239
<v Speaker 2>we're not doing something right to a young boy. And

0:23:15.280 --> 0:23:18.439
<v Speaker 2>I think when the more we can show like big

0:23:18.560 --> 0:23:24.000
<v Speaker 2>burly man on television, crying, breaking down, being emotional, being real,

0:23:24.760 --> 0:23:27.240
<v Speaker 2>I think the better it is for a society and

0:23:27.960 --> 0:23:31.200
<v Speaker 2>maybe hopefully people out there watching that going oh wow,

0:23:31.240 --> 0:23:34.160
<v Speaker 2>that's really that's really beautiful, you know, not like I'm

0:23:34.200 --> 0:23:37.200
<v Speaker 2>not gonna pussy. Why crying that bullshit has to stop.

0:23:37.640 --> 0:23:40.920
<v Speaker 2>All the guys on the show are beautiful, lovely, vulnerable men,

0:23:41.080 --> 0:23:43.719
<v Speaker 2>and they really are open up over those captain's tables.

0:23:43.760 --> 0:23:45.920
<v Speaker 2>There's a couple of assholes in there too, not saying

0:23:45.920 --> 0:23:48.119
<v Speaker 2>that there's definitely assholes in there as well.

0:23:48.160 --> 0:23:50.439
<v Speaker 1>The first hair toss of the series goes to one

0:23:50.440 --> 0:23:52.000
<v Speaker 1>of the blokes. I don't know if you picked that up,

0:23:52.040 --> 0:23:56.119
<v Speaker 1>but I think it was Patty and you know, walk

0:23:56.119 --> 0:23:58.080
<v Speaker 1>off hair toss was him because he had, you know,

0:23:58.119 --> 0:24:01.159
<v Speaker 1>this beautiful hair that I guess looked like Leonardo DiCaprio

0:24:01.200 --> 0:24:03.200
<v Speaker 1>and Titanic, which we had inte of seen that hair

0:24:03.200 --> 0:24:05.560
<v Speaker 1>in a while. But I love that it was the

0:24:05.600 --> 0:24:08.280
<v Speaker 1>men that sort of walked off like that. You know,

0:24:08.720 --> 0:24:11.240
<v Speaker 1>it allow us to go, Okay, this is going to

0:24:11.280 --> 0:24:13.520
<v Speaker 1>be a different show, and you know what's interesting. And

0:24:13.560 --> 0:24:14.920
<v Speaker 1>I know a lot of people a going to talk

0:24:14.960 --> 0:24:17.600
<v Speaker 1>about how attractive these men are because when you first

0:24:17.600 --> 0:24:20.520
<v Speaker 1>see them, you're like, they look like the last six

0:24:20.560 --> 0:24:23.040
<v Speaker 1>blokes at three am at a nightclub when they first

0:24:23.040 --> 0:24:25.680
<v Speaker 1>turn up. And I could be rude by saying that However,

0:24:26.320 --> 0:24:28.840
<v Speaker 1>as you watch the show, they become more I don't know,

0:24:28.840 --> 0:24:30.399
<v Speaker 1>maybe that's what it's like being at a pub at

0:24:30.400 --> 0:24:34.119
<v Speaker 1>three am, but they be more attractive as the show

0:24:34.160 --> 0:24:36.199
<v Speaker 1>goes on. Like to start off with was like that

0:24:36.280 --> 0:24:39.320
<v Speaker 1>one not attractive, but then now I'm watching it and

0:24:39.359 --> 0:24:42.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, he's hot. It's it's very strange, it's a

0:24:43.000 --> 0:24:43.960
<v Speaker 1>very surreal experience.

0:24:44.520 --> 0:24:46.800
<v Speaker 2>Is that it could be like that what I call SBS,

0:24:46.840 --> 0:24:49.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, like showbag syndrome. You could be suffering from that,

0:24:49.880 --> 0:24:52.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, and you know when you're when you're trapped

0:24:52.760 --> 0:24:54.960
<v Speaker 2>at an Easter show and you go into one of

0:24:55.000 --> 0:24:57.719
<v Speaker 2>those those rooms at the Easter show and you literally

0:24:57.720 --> 0:25:01.760
<v Speaker 2>have a whole warehouse of showbacks. There's this bag after

0:25:01.800 --> 0:25:05.360
<v Speaker 2>bag after bag of shit. So all of a sudden,

0:25:05.800 --> 0:25:08.159
<v Speaker 2>when you get this bag for twenty five dollars and

0:25:08.200 --> 0:25:09.480
<v Speaker 2>you think you've got the deal of the century on

0:25:09.560 --> 0:25:11.800
<v Speaker 2>this bag, and then you get it home away from

0:25:11.840 --> 0:25:14.000
<v Speaker 2>that environment and you empty it on the floor and

0:25:14.000 --> 0:25:15.960
<v Speaker 2>you realize, holy shit, I just paid twenty five dollars

0:25:16.000 --> 0:25:19.280
<v Speaker 2>for an old TV week magazine, a red skin and

0:25:19.359 --> 0:25:22.520
<v Speaker 2>a couple of like plastic toys. I've been absolutely had here,

0:25:22.720 --> 0:25:25.280
<v Speaker 2>But in the environment when you're stuck in there, it

0:25:25.320 --> 0:25:27.600
<v Speaker 2>seemed like a great deal, seems sexy.

0:25:27.920 --> 0:25:32.720
<v Speaker 1>Also think it's amazing because we've been sold the ridiculously

0:25:32.800 --> 0:25:36.760
<v Speaker 1>handsome before and it's never pays out, you know, where

0:25:36.800 --> 0:25:39.359
<v Speaker 1>this is something where you are getting to know people

0:25:39.480 --> 0:25:42.400
<v Speaker 1>and you are actually starting to have a real connection

0:25:42.480 --> 0:25:45.280
<v Speaker 1>with them. When you're watching people who just look pretty,

0:25:45.280 --> 0:25:48.360
<v Speaker 1>you don't have any substance behind you. For me, it's

0:25:48.359 --> 0:25:50.080
<v Speaker 1>not the trade off, it's the reason why people are

0:25:50.240 --> 0:25:54.080
<v Speaker 1>turning away. These genuinely look like people who are your mates.

0:25:54.400 --> 0:25:56.520
<v Speaker 1>They genuinely look like people you do know in the

0:25:56.560 --> 0:25:59.720
<v Speaker 1>real world, and I think that's the selling point.

0:26:00.040 --> 0:26:02.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there is, actually is There are a lot of

0:26:03.000 --> 0:26:06.480
<v Speaker 2>deep characters there, and they're they're not afraid to kind

0:26:06.480 --> 0:26:08.720
<v Speaker 2>of put the heart on the line and and talk

0:26:08.760 --> 0:26:11.520
<v Speaker 2>about their past experiences with relationships and why it didn't

0:26:11.520 --> 0:26:14.280
<v Speaker 2>work and maybe own the mistakes they've made as well.

0:26:14.560 --> 0:26:17.240
<v Speaker 2>There is a couple of the other types as well,

0:26:17.320 --> 0:26:21.240
<v Speaker 2>and they stand out pretty quickly, and maybe that's why actually,

0:26:21.359 --> 0:26:24.200
<v Speaker 2>to your point, maybe that's why they are so confronting

0:26:24.280 --> 0:26:26.879
<v Speaker 2>those other types, because it just seems so out of

0:26:26.920 --> 0:26:29.800
<v Speaker 2>place on this show when you've got other people like

0:26:29.920 --> 0:26:34.639
<v Speaker 2>going really deep and trying to to form real connections

0:26:34.640 --> 0:26:37.680
<v Speaker 2>with people. The muscle Mareyas of the world. They don't

0:26:37.720 --> 0:26:39.560
<v Speaker 2>really they seem very out of place.

0:26:39.960 --> 0:26:41.560
<v Speaker 1>We all get drawn to that, don't get me wrong,

0:26:41.600 --> 0:26:43.680
<v Speaker 1>Like you'd be the same. You know, a good looking

0:26:43.680 --> 0:26:45.560
<v Speaker 1>person is a good looking person. You're going to immediately

0:26:45.640 --> 0:26:47.280
<v Speaker 1>be drawn to it. You're gonna want to throw yourself

0:26:47.320 --> 0:26:48.720
<v Speaker 1>at it. But we all know.

0:26:49.000 --> 0:26:51.200
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I mean, I mean, it's just I don't

0:26:51.200 --> 0:26:52.960
<v Speaker 2>want to sound like an asshager, but I don't really

0:26:52.960 --> 0:26:56.560
<v Speaker 2>think like I think they're all lovely people, but there

0:26:56.600 --> 0:26:58.240
<v Speaker 2>was like there was no one on that show. I

0:26:58.240 --> 0:27:00.760
<v Speaker 2>don't think that. I'll mean, oh my god, I mean

0:27:00.800 --> 0:27:04.399
<v Speaker 2>they're like fucking they're in a dahnas. Look at that guy, Like,

0:27:04.560 --> 0:27:08.560
<v Speaker 2>holy shit, didn't I didn't feel that at fall on that.

0:27:08.640 --> 0:27:11.639
<v Speaker 2>I thought we did a great job of actually getting

0:27:11.680 --> 0:27:15.280
<v Speaker 2>a really great cross section of Australians like youah, like

0:27:15.440 --> 0:27:16.119
<v Speaker 2>real people.

0:27:16.240 --> 0:27:19.920
<v Speaker 1>No, No, absolutely not, Like that's the best thing about

0:27:19.920 --> 0:27:21.760
<v Speaker 1>the show is what I'm saying to you, Like, and

0:27:21.800 --> 0:27:23.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying they're ugly either, and I'm not saying

0:27:23.560 --> 0:27:26.040
<v Speaker 1>they're the best looking people I'm just saying, they genuinely

0:27:26.119 --> 0:27:28.879
<v Speaker 1>are the people that we have in our real world. Like,

0:27:29.119 --> 0:27:31.399
<v Speaker 1>and I find, you know, them saying things on the

0:27:31.440 --> 0:27:33.719
<v Speaker 1>show and I'm like, don't say that. Don't say that,

0:27:33.760 --> 0:27:36.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, oh god, that's something I would say. And

0:27:36.400 --> 0:27:39.200
<v Speaker 1>that's the magic of television is when we can relate

0:27:39.280 --> 0:27:42.159
<v Speaker 1>to you know. That's where television needs to lift at

0:27:42.200 --> 0:27:44.520
<v Speaker 1>the moment, is that we need to be seen and

0:27:44.800 --> 0:27:48.320
<v Speaker 1>we aren't being seen if we're just watching Muscle Mary's

0:27:48.680 --> 0:27:50.399
<v Speaker 1>Date girls that all look the same because they've been

0:27:50.440 --> 0:27:54.160
<v Speaker 1>to the same plastic surgeon. Like, it's just not relatable anymore.

0:27:54.200 --> 0:27:56.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's I think they thought it was aspirational

0:27:56.400 --> 0:27:57.879
<v Speaker 1>for us all to be going, oh, I want to

0:27:57.880 --> 0:27:59.840
<v Speaker 1>be on Instagram. I want to be insta famous. But

0:28:00.760 --> 0:28:03.040
<v Speaker 1>it's not the magic of television and it never has.

0:28:02.960 --> 0:28:05.520
<v Speaker 2>Been if you ask me, no, it's a It's funny,

0:28:05.520 --> 0:28:07.800
<v Speaker 2>isn't it. Like everybody on TikTok and Instagram wants to

0:28:07.840 --> 0:28:10.880
<v Speaker 2>be doing movies and television and everybody on television because

0:28:10.880 --> 0:28:12.240
<v Speaker 2>we don't get paid that kind of money. And he

0:28:12.400 --> 0:28:14.720
<v Speaker 2>was like, fuck, don't want to be on TikTok and Instagram.

0:28:14.760 --> 0:28:16.879
<v Speaker 2>These kids are making a fortune. But you're right, like

0:28:16.920 --> 0:28:19.840
<v Speaker 2>to pick up your point too, you do. Actually, they

0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:23.240
<v Speaker 2>do become more attractive as they go on, for sure,

0:28:23.280 --> 0:28:26.000
<v Speaker 2>because there's either like there definitely is people that you're like,

0:28:26.000 --> 0:28:28.280
<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, whatever, and then as you get to know

0:28:28.359 --> 0:28:31.680
<v Speaker 2>the personality and see everything on Oh my god, I

0:28:31.760 --> 0:28:34.320
<v Speaker 2>got a man crush on this guy. This guy is amazing.

0:28:34.320 --> 0:28:37.119
<v Speaker 2>He sings too, he's a hit and he sings and

0:28:37.160 --> 0:28:39.920
<v Speaker 2>he looks like that, and he's a swaggy dresser and

0:28:40.160 --> 0:28:43.600
<v Speaker 2>he's really deep and he's emotionally intelligent. Fucking hell, sign

0:28:43.640 --> 0:28:43.960
<v Speaker 2>me up.

0:28:44.080 --> 0:28:45.720
<v Speaker 1>And then there was this woman. At the start of

0:28:45.760 --> 0:28:47.520
<v Speaker 1>the first episode, I'm like, oh god, she's not going

0:28:47.520 --> 0:28:49.200
<v Speaker 1>to get picked or she reminds me of my best

0:28:49.200 --> 0:28:51.680
<v Speaker 1>friend Kathy. Oh she's not going to get picked. And

0:28:51.720 --> 0:28:55.320
<v Speaker 1>then two or three episodes in, I'm like, I only

0:28:55.480 --> 0:28:59.920
<v Speaker 1>like the Kathy woman, like she is. She's the only

0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:01.760
<v Speaker 1>what I'm rooting for, you know what I mean. So

0:29:01.800 --> 0:29:03.960
<v Speaker 1>it's amazing that if you if you're willing to be

0:29:04.000 --> 0:29:05.640
<v Speaker 1>taken on a journey with a real love boat, I

0:29:05.680 --> 0:29:08.480
<v Speaker 1>hope people do it. We are kind of running out,

0:29:08.480 --> 0:29:10.520
<v Speaker 1>a little running out of time here, a little bit

0:29:11.040 --> 0:29:13.560
<v Speaker 1>just to go back to your point on being on

0:29:13.600 --> 0:29:17.040
<v Speaker 1>Celebrity Apprentice, Has that changed the way in which you

0:29:17.080 --> 0:29:19.959
<v Speaker 1>see reality television now that you've been a contestant.

0:29:20.400 --> 0:29:24.200
<v Speaker 2>No, I mean I was always aware of what happened

0:29:24.200 --> 0:29:25.480
<v Speaker 2>on the other side of things. You know, I did

0:29:25.480 --> 0:29:28.040
<v Speaker 2>the voice for so many years. What I felt was

0:29:28.120 --> 0:29:32.080
<v Speaker 2>quite interesting with Celebrity Apprentice is you've got people who've

0:29:32.080 --> 0:29:34.080
<v Speaker 2>worked in the industry for years. There. You know, you've

0:29:34.120 --> 0:29:36.560
<v Speaker 2>been to colossal or like award winning actress. You've got

0:29:36.560 --> 0:29:40.560
<v Speaker 2>ari award winning singers and motivacial speakers and you know

0:29:40.640 --> 0:29:43.760
<v Speaker 2>rugby league legends. I was an actor in a TV host,

0:29:43.840 --> 0:29:46.240
<v Speaker 2>you know, like, you know, people who are very familiar

0:29:46.280 --> 0:29:49.840
<v Speaker 2>with this industry. Yet like a couple of the producers

0:29:49.840 --> 0:29:52.200
<v Speaker 2>on that, I think we're very green and probably had

0:29:52.200 --> 0:29:55.440
<v Speaker 2>come off shows where they'd been working with people that

0:29:55.560 --> 0:29:58.720
<v Speaker 2>never been on television before and probably just wanted to

0:29:58.760 --> 0:30:00.479
<v Speaker 2>be famous. Whereas we were on there, we've all got

0:30:00.520 --> 0:30:04.240
<v Speaker 2>industries in our own, our own right. When they speak

0:30:04.360 --> 0:30:07.040
<v Speaker 2>to you like a certain way, it was like, mate,

0:30:07.720 --> 0:30:10.040
<v Speaker 2>don't speak to me like that. Who the fuck do

0:30:10.120 --> 0:30:13.160
<v Speaker 2>you think you are? Like, you're barely out of high

0:30:13.200 --> 0:30:16.360
<v Speaker 2>school and I've been doing this for eighteen years. I

0:30:16.400 --> 0:30:19.000
<v Speaker 2>know how television works, and I know what you're trying

0:30:19.000 --> 0:30:20.880
<v Speaker 2>to do, and I know what you're trying to manipulate

0:30:20.880 --> 0:30:22.520
<v Speaker 2>out of me, and I'm not going to fucking say

0:30:22.560 --> 0:30:25.000
<v Speaker 2>that for your sound grab. So I did get really

0:30:25.040 --> 0:30:27.920
<v Speaker 2>frustrated with some of the younger producers on that, and

0:30:28.040 --> 0:30:30.240
<v Speaker 2>that did give me a bit of an insight into

0:30:30.240 --> 0:30:33.840
<v Speaker 2>perhaps how they acted on other shows as well, and

0:30:34.120 --> 0:30:36.640
<v Speaker 2>how other people might have fallen for that had they

0:30:36.680 --> 0:30:39.160
<v Speaker 2>not been television wide exactly.

0:30:39.200 --> 0:30:41.920
<v Speaker 1>Know, you know, everyone who joins the podcast, ask them

0:30:41.960 --> 0:30:44.080
<v Speaker 1>a question, what's something from behind the scenes that we

0:30:44.160 --> 0:30:47.840
<v Speaker 1>won't say because it will never be shown on television,

0:30:47.920 --> 0:30:50.520
<v Speaker 1>like a behind the scenes sacred from your time on

0:30:50.680 --> 0:30:51.720
<v Speaker 1>the Real Love Boat.

0:30:51.720 --> 0:30:53.560
<v Speaker 2>You know what. Like I've actually pushed for a lot

0:30:53.560 --> 0:30:55.920
<v Speaker 2>of the behind the scenes stuff to get put back in,

0:30:56.440 --> 0:30:58.200
<v Speaker 2>and they're doing that. I mean, everyone's on the same

0:30:58.240 --> 0:30:59.880
<v Speaker 2>page for that. So there is a lot of stuff

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<v Speaker 2>that goes back in, like needing an attacked by a

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<v Speaker 2>monkey in the middle of a link and all that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of stuff in Tibolta, just like you know, Katie

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<v Speaker 2>saying the wrong name and all that kind of really

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<v Speaker 2>rid stuff. We did Leaven and all the other stuff

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<v Speaker 2>that isn't left in. I've actually asked Digital to send

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<v Speaker 2>it to me and I'll will put it on Digital

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<v Speaker 2>or we'll put it on my Instagram. So look, it

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<v Speaker 2>is a pretty open show. As I say, we're breaking

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<v Speaker 2>that fourth wall. It's something that we were all pretty

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<v Speaker 2>keen to do and welcoming that audience in. And Stephen

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<v Speaker 2>Taate Channel ten is all over the show's phenomenal as well.

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<v Speaker 2>He's all about that too, and he's very excited about

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<v Speaker 2>this show and how different it is from other things

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<v Speaker 2>have done.

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<v Speaker 1>That is the best behind the same secret. Let me

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<v Speaker 1>tell you, I think that's a brilliant answer, because that

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<v Speaker 1>is very much how it feels. You know. It feels

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<v Speaker 1>like a lot of other networks would have cud all

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff out, but they come across as being my

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<v Speaker 1>favorite things on the show. I love that you were

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<v Speaker 1>attacked by that monkey. It was fucking hilarious. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>people are here for, Darren. I have to say, I

0:31:57.360 --> 0:31:58.920
<v Speaker 1>am such a big fan of yours and I have

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<v Speaker 1>been a fan of yours because so I think that

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<v Speaker 1>you are a breath of fresh air in the Australian

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<v Speaker 1>television industry, very much like this podcast You'll lose. You

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<v Speaker 1>are real interesting and you have got some fantastic things

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<v Speaker 1>to say. Good luck with a real love boat. I

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<v Speaker 1>hope they make ten more seasons and you can buy

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<v Speaker 1>a big million dollar mansion, but mostly we can.

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<v Speaker 2>Get a lift blower. Amazing man. Thanks, you appreciate all

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<v Speaker 2>the tame words, and yeah, I just hope people stick

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<v Speaker 2>to the show as a cracker and it just gets

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<v Speaker 2>better and better and better as it goes on, and

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<v Speaker 2>you fall in love with these people. So fingers crossed

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll see how it plays out.

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<v Speaker 1>Mate, Thanks so much for the chat.