Speaker 1: Thank you day, Peter Helly here, welcome to you ain't
Speaker 1: seen nothing yet in the Movie Podcast, where our chat
Speaker 1: to a movie lover about a classic or loved the
Speaker 1: movie they haven't quite got around to watching until now.
Speaker 1: In today's guest comedian Frankie McNair, all below, I want
Speaker 1: to stay here with you.
Speaker 2: The jobble my hat snake sucked.
Speaker 1: Why hail, it wouldn't happening right, You ain't seen nothing yet.
Speaker 1: Very excited they have the wonderful Frankie there joining me
Speaker 1: in the studio.
Speaker 2: But you ain't seen nothing yet.
Speaker 1: Frankie is an absolute delight on stage and off stage.
Speaker 2: I perform with Frankie.
Speaker 1: Various different gigs and the Grapes of Mirth the Comedy Republic,
Speaker 1: and it's on the share of stage with Frankie. And
Speaker 1: if you've seen Frankie do the thing, it's always a
Speaker 1: little I'm trying to avoid the term.
Speaker 2: Weird, but it's out there. It can be out there.
Speaker 1: Frankie place is a great character called Tabitha Booth and
Speaker 1: like an old Hollywood actress that things haven't necessarily.
Speaker 2: Gone their way.
Speaker 1: And Tabitha is hilarious and if you get a chance
Speaker 1: to see Tabitha on stage.
Speaker 2: I urge you to do so.
Speaker 1: If you follow Frankie's Instagram page, you'll see Tabitha pop
Speaker 1: up there as well. Frankie one Best Newcomer at the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two Melbourne International Comedy Festival. You would have
Speaker 1: also seen Frankie on the ABC's Question Everything Just for laughs.
Speaker 1: You also may have seen Frankie on Only Donna's Coffee Cafe.
Speaker 1: And she also, which I wasn't less be aware of it,
Speaker 1: is a real student of film and has one had
Speaker 1: a short film that one called Laundry was runner up
Speaker 1: in the Sony Catch Night Film Festival. So I'm really
Speaker 1: fascinated to delve into today's film. Frankie is smart, funny, bloody,
Speaker 1: delightful and I'm stoked to be hanging with them today.
Speaker 3: Hi, my name is Frankie McNair and my favorite films
Speaker 3: ah Casino.
Speaker 2: I'm just curious. I sure you're shuffling your checks with
Speaker 2: your right hand? Can you do that with both hands?
Speaker 3: Eighth grade?
Speaker 2: One more week of eighth grade? Right?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy and nine days.
Speaker 2: Spending this day and note with me, and you shall
Speaker 2: possess the origin of all poems.
Speaker 3: But up until recently, I had not seen this sting.
Speaker 1: Yes, Robert Redford, possibly one of the most American looking
Speaker 1: men in history, plays a grifter with possibly the most
Speaker 1: American grifter name, Johnny Hooker, who unwittingly steals from Irish
Speaker 1: mob boss Doyle Lonigan Robert Shaw in fine form. When
Speaker 1: Lonigan seeks revenge by killing his partner in crime, Luther,
Speaker 1: played by Darth Vader's dad, Robert Earl Jones, it lights
Speaker 1: a fire under Hooker, vowing to hit Lonigan where it
Speaker 1: hurts most. He's ample Wallet. Wanting to avenge his friend's murder,
Speaker 1: Johnny Hooker reaches out to a contact of Luther's Henry Gondorf,
Speaker 1: the impossibly blue eyed Paul new the master of the
Speaker 1: long con. Together they dream up a masterful con. They
Speaker 1: will test their nowse, their skill, their nerve, and their courage.
Speaker 1: The Ultimate Sting winner of the nineteen seventy four Best
Speaker 1: Picture OSCAR, including six more including Best Director for George
Speaker 1: roy Hill and Best Screenplay by David s Ward. The
Speaker 1: Sting is pure Hollywood entertainment, with two of the biggest
Speaker 1: stars of their day having a great time. Frankie McNair,
Speaker 1: have you ever fallen for an elaborate sting.
Speaker 3: Not that I know of, which means that they would
Speaker 3: have done a good jog. That's the greatest.
Speaker 1: I love it. Thank you so much for joining us on.
Speaker 1: You ain't sing nothing yet. I'm excited for this because
Speaker 1: I feel like you play a character I mentioned in
Speaker 1: the intro at Tabitha Booth, who could almost fit in
Speaker 1: this movie somewhere or this world? So when when? It
Speaker 1: only occurred to me when I was watching it, Because
Speaker 1: sometimes as I'm watching I'm thinking, well, they have a
Speaker 1: connection a way into this film, and I feel like,
Speaker 1: and without knowing too much about whether you like the
Speaker 1: film or not, I feel like Tabitha may have been
Speaker 1: like she does exist in this world.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she exists as someone who is about to ruin
Speaker 3: the plan. She exists is someone who is about to
Speaker 3: walk in and goes, what don't we do in here, fellers?
Speaker 2: What's going on here?
Speaker 3: Are we doing a sting?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: She is someone who is about to send everyone to
Speaker 3: prison by just getting too excited to be a part
Speaker 3: of it. That's her vibe.
Speaker 2: How do we come?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 1: I generally I will send the list to my guests
Speaker 1: with a whole bunch of films on them.
Speaker 3: There's so many. I was so excited, Oh that's excellent,
Speaker 3: so many films on that.
Speaker 2: And you came back with great, you have.
Speaker 1: There's one film that I was wrestling with, which is Magnolia,
Speaker 1: which I love. Of listeners of this podcast know how
Speaker 1: much I love Paul Thomas Anderson. We kind of I
Speaker 1: covered it, not necessarily for this podcast directly, but with
Speaker 1: doing film podcasts with Beck and Jade, and it felt
Speaker 1: like we'd covered it almost as a sister show, sister
Speaker 1: brother show. We'd covered it, so I was very closer
Speaker 1: still doing it because I love it so much and
Speaker 1: you should really watch Magnolia. Yeah, but this was this
Speaker 1: was one. Did you did you kind of check out
Speaker 1: the time period? Did you check out the running time?
Speaker 1: How did you like? So you know about this film?
Speaker 1: What did you know about it?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: I didn't know about it. I googled it and saw
Speaker 3: that it had Robert Redford and Paul Newman in it,
Speaker 3: and I went, yes, yes, this one. Please.
Speaker 2: Have you've seen Pocashid in the Sundant Skin of All? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is like almost it's a brother film
Speaker 1: to that companion piece. It's not a sequel, but it's
Speaker 1: certainly the filmmakers wanting to pair these two together again.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it felt like there was that period of time
Speaker 3: where Owen Wilson and Ben Stella were doing every movie together,
Speaker 3: and it feels like they were trying to like do
Speaker 3: the same thing of being like, these two have such
Speaker 3: good chemistry and every movie they should be in together.
Speaker 3: And I think they made the right call.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about how impossibly good looking these men are.
Speaker 3: Dear God. So I watched Butchcasidy in The Sundance Kid
Speaker 3: because my partner is like loves movies, like studied them,
Speaker 3: like has real uni brain about movies. And I was
Speaker 3: really like, I'm like, I don't know if I want
Speaker 3: to watch like an old movie. And then we watched
Speaker 3: Butch Castidy and The Sundance Kid and I was weeping
Speaker 3: by the end, and I was just like, I'm weeping.
Speaker 3: But they're so beautiful. And he told me an anecdote
Speaker 3: that I haven't fact checked this, but apparently Robert Redford,
Speaker 3: who is the most beautiful man in the entire world,
Speaker 3: he was doing a scene and it was about like
Speaker 3: rejection and he wasn't quite getting it, and they were
Speaker 3: like the director came up and was like, all right, Rob,
Speaker 3: it's about like you know, like you're you're feeling rejected,
Speaker 3: but you understand. And he's like, yeah, I kind of
Speaker 3: don't get it. And the director said okay, So like Robert,
Speaker 3: like you like, have you ever been turned down by
Speaker 3: a woman? And Robert Redford said what do you mean?
Speaker 3: He just couldn't comprehend it, and I'm like yeah, because
Speaker 3: he's so beautiful. Most of me watching this movie was
Speaker 3: just me going, oh my god.
Speaker 1: Well, he wanted to play Benjamin Braddock in The Graduate
Speaker 1: and he went to Mike Nichols and said, yeah, I
Speaker 1: want I want to I want to do this role.
Speaker 1: And Mike Nichols was like, you can't. This is a
Speaker 1: guy who is he can't, like he's nervous around women
Speaker 1: and he can't.
Speaker 2: You know, we don't even know he's possibly a virgin.
Speaker 1: Like you can't do that. Look in the mirror, Robert,
Speaker 1: and he's like, okay, yeah, I kind of get it.
Speaker 3: There was just this scene where he was just sitting
Speaker 3: in a chair and I paused it and I took
Speaker 3: a photo and I sent it to my partner. It's
Speaker 3: just him sitting in a chair. That he's just like
Speaker 3: kind of slouched with like his arms back, and I
Speaker 3: was like, anyone else tried to sit in a chair
Speaker 3: like that? Then called cart what are you doing? Sit
Speaker 3: up normal?
Speaker 1: I'm going to try to sit in the chair. We'll
Speaker 1: do a comparison. I'll put it on on my socials.
Speaker 1: We'll see maybe I can put a laugh. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: You were absolutely right.
Speaker 1: After I watched Posa Cassidy, which I watched for the
Speaker 1: first time for his podcast that with Bob Murphy x
Speaker 1: AFL footballer and dilettante. He the next morning, I was
Speaker 1: saying to my wife, you don't understand how good looking
Speaker 1: these men are. And I'm googling imaging. Look look look
Speaker 1: at their eyes. Even last night I was watching this
Speaker 1: thing and with my wife for a bit and I
Speaker 1: was like, look at blue Newman's eyes are. They're impossibly blue.
Speaker 1: And she's like, they're not that blue, Like human's got
Speaker 1: blue eyes. I said, but not early, but later, and
Speaker 1: I was getting frustrated. It was like, I'm not sure
Speaker 1: it's deliberate. The filmmaker's almost like got his eyes darkened
Speaker 1: and you can't quite see his eyes. And then eventually
Speaker 1: you have these shots. I think when they're like they've
Speaker 1: got that makeup casino that they made up. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: when you really see how blue those eyes aren't.
Speaker 3: Where when he pops, when he has his like his
Speaker 3: glam up. I think that Paul Newman has blue eyes
Speaker 3: like a husky. Like you know how huskies have those
Speaker 3: like kind of hauntingly blue eyes where you're like, those
Speaker 3: are the eyes of a person, husky, What have you done?
Speaker 3: You're a man trapped in that body of a husky.
Speaker 3: That's Paul Newman's eyes.
Speaker 1: Beautiful, they extraordinary. Will talk more about Paul Newman and
Speaker 1: Robert Redford without a single doubt. Let's talk about your
Speaker 1: three favorite films. I film that has come up a
Speaker 1: couple of times now, and I'm embarrassed and I have
Speaker 1: not seen it, particularly after I saw Bo Burnham's special
Speaker 1: that he.
Speaker 2: Did during Lockdown.
Speaker 1: But eighth grade, I have not seen it, but it's
Speaker 1: come up enough times on this podcast in people's favorites.
Speaker 1: Tell us about eighth grade.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, there was a brief period of time
Speaker 3: I did in my entire life, I've done a semester
Speaker 3: of university and I basically the only real UNI assignment
Speaker 3: that I did was like an oral presentation, and so
Speaker 3: I deep dived into this movie and I love it
Speaker 3: so much. It felt exactly like like you're watching it
Speaker 3: and it feels like a visceral experience of I was like, oh, damn,
Speaker 3: this is exactly what it feels like to be in
Speaker 3: high school when you're not a teenager yet but you're
Speaker 3: not a kid and you're in that weird in between
Speaker 3: stage and like just all those changes are happening and
Speaker 3: you just feel so social, like you're just so self
Speaker 3: conscious all the time, and he does it so perfectly.
Speaker 3: It is upsetting. Like when I was talking about it
Speaker 3: at UNI, like a lot of especially dudes, were like, ah,
Speaker 3: because there's like one particular scene where she's in a
Speaker 3: car and like feeling a bit pressured to like have sex,
Speaker 3: but like it ends up working out. But they were like, ah,
Speaker 3: that felt a bit like they didn't need to have
Speaker 3: that in there. It's a bit far fetched. And I
Speaker 3: was like, are you kidding that it hits the nail
Speaker 3: on the head of that thing of like it's like
Speaker 3: nothing happened, but you still feel horrible, And it was
Speaker 3: just Bob Burnham started developing this film because he was
Speaker 3: having panic attacks on stage. She had really bad anxiety.
Speaker 3: And then he had a lot of teenagers coming to
Speaker 3: his shows and he was talking to them afterwards and
Speaker 3: he was like, why are teenagers identifying with me talking
Speaker 3: about having really bad anxiety? And then he was looking
Speaker 3: at social media and he was just like, oh, you're
Speaker 3: you always are in front of an audience. You always
Speaker 3: have to be on And then it just kind of
Speaker 3: delved into him talking about like finding out I have
Speaker 3: anxiety because I'm in front of thousands of people. These
Speaker 3: kids have the same feeling of constantly feeling watched and
Speaker 3: like they have to perform because they are in front
Speaker 3: of thousands of people. Potentially, it's such a good movie.
Speaker 3: It's so fun. The way that they film it too,
Speaker 3: I don't know, it's really heightened in some points and
Speaker 3: then in some points it's like really natural.
Speaker 2: Ah, it's yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm embarrassed now because I so many people say to me,
Speaker 1: you need to watch this film, and I, like, I said,
Speaker 1: I really liked bo Burnham's comedy special he put out
Speaker 1: was that called Inside Maybe Oh yeah yeah, and it
Speaker 1: was just endlessly creative and funny. But yeah, I'm gonna watch.
Speaker 1: It's definitely on the list. Let's talk about Casino. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a Scorsese film that kind of sometimes gets lost not
Speaker 1: with everyone, it's still like much loved and Sharon Stone.
Speaker 1: Kind of my memories of it when it came out
Speaker 1: was Sharon Stone kind of kind of reminding people of
Speaker 1: what she can do, like in the aftermath of Basic Instant,
Speaker 1: where she's probably pigeonholed and doing all those kind of thrillers.
Speaker 1: Just like, ah, it was. It wasn't quite like Tarantino
Speaker 1: putting Travoltar in pulp fiction, because Sharon Stone was still
Speaker 1: part of the you know, the the industry very much so.
Speaker 1: But it was like, ah, she can also do this,
Speaker 1: and she's extraordinary.
Speaker 2: It's so good.
Speaker 3: I love It's gonna say, Uzie, I love it. I
Speaker 3: watched this movie whenever I'm sick. I don't know why.
Speaker 3: It's the most gruesome, like emotionally just like violent movie,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, I have a cold time to watch
Speaker 3: my make better movie. It's Casino. I love it. It's so intense.
Speaker 3: That acting is foot like, you know, you got DeNiro,
Speaker 3: you can't go wrong. You've got Deniara and Joe Joe Pesci.
Speaker 1: Joe Pesci is one of the finest, just one of
Speaker 1: those finest actors of all time.
Speaker 2: He's so good.
Speaker 3: But my introduction to him was Home Alone is a
Speaker 3: small child.
Speaker 2: He's one of the wet bandits.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I was like, what's the web it doing here?
Speaker 3: And I was like, oh, he's scarier, scarier than in Hope,
Speaker 3: But I still love that he still took a lot
Speaker 3: of that like mom energy into Home Alone. Yeah, you
Speaker 3: can just see him trying not to swear the entire
Speaker 3: Home Alone movie, but like, it's just it's such a
Speaker 3: good movie, and yeah, Sharon Stone absolutely kills it. It's heartbreaking,
Speaker 3: it's complex, and I think it's just one of those
Speaker 3: movies where like I don't know if you get this
Speaker 3: or got this, but like wanting to act more and
Speaker 3: just watching a movie and enjoying it, but at the
Speaker 3: same time being so mad that you're not in that movie.
Speaker 3: Have you ever experienced that, but you're just watching, like
Speaker 3: if it's like a theater piece or comedy or like
Speaker 3: a movie and you're like, this is amazing.
Speaker 1: I'm so I've had reactions where I'm like, oh, this
Speaker 1: inspires me and.
Speaker 2: I wish I was. I wish I was, but I'm not.
Speaker 1: I've gotten mad that I wasn't cassed in The Godfather
Speaker 1: Part two for instance.
Speaker 2: Okay, you have that reaction.
Speaker 3: But the way you have that much healthy reaction. I
Speaker 3: feel inspired by this. I'm going to take this creative
Speaker 3: energy and make something. I'm sitting there seating, I'm watching it,
Speaker 3: going I call this show? Am I not Joe PEESHI.
Speaker 1: There are times when I've seen an idea badly executed
Speaker 1: and I kind of gone, I think could have done
Speaker 1: a better job. Yeah, if I had a similar idea
Speaker 1: or in the same ballpark, and I'm like, ah, that
Speaker 1: might ruin my chances of doing this because it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, and that might be more locally where it's
Speaker 1: maybe realistic, or on a much bigger scale where it's like, well,
Speaker 1: I'm not competing, you know, like I'm not having meetings
Speaker 1: at Universal or Warner Brothers in the States.
Speaker 3: Yes, but it's also like this was a movie that
Speaker 3: was made like I think I might have been too,
Speaker 3: and I'm still sitting here as like a thirty year
Speaker 3: old watching it, going they should have cast me, and
Speaker 3: I'm not. I'm not then Neero good like who am
Speaker 3: I to think like I would get there. I mean
Speaker 3: I can do. They're like, but that's it, that's it.
Speaker 3: But it's so funny. Yeah, I just I just I
Speaker 3: don't know. I just love it. It just makes me
Speaker 3: be like, aren't movies right?
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 3: It's one of those like transport movies where you're like,
Speaker 3: I'm fully immersed. Like if anyone tried to talk to
Speaker 3: me while I was watching Casino, I would get mad, right,
Speaker 3: I'd be like, how dare you take me out of
Speaker 3: my little world of blood and violence?
Speaker 2: I haven't.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it for a lot. I mean I
Speaker 1: saw it in the cinema and I've seen it since then.
Speaker 1: But because I usually go back to good Fellas, good
Speaker 1: Fellas would be where I go back to until about
Speaker 1: Joe Pesci being absolutely petrifying and hilarious side by side.
Speaker 1: It's so uncomfortable to watch become glorious at the same time.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I should go back and watch Casino again.
Speaker 1: It again has come up a few times on this podcast.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm good Fellas. They're seen in the kitchen.
Speaker 2: That's mon.
Speaker 3: Scorcedes says his mum. Yes, yeah, and they just told
Speaker 3: her improvise. Yeah, they didn't give her lines. They just
Speaker 3: said they're gonna come over and they're gonna wake you
Speaker 3: up in the middle of the night. Okay film and
Speaker 3: straightaway she's just like me feed you, let me make
Speaker 3: the sit down dinner. Come here.
Speaker 2: It's so good. It's such a I love that film
Speaker 2: so much. Was it Nine Days?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Should I've seen this one? Tell us about this one.
Speaker 3: So this is one of those movies that I think
Speaker 3: it's a really good movie. But I think also just
Speaker 3: because of when I watched it, it was like a
Speaker 3: bit of a switch in my brain moment. I was like,
Speaker 3: I think it was we'd just come out of like
Speaker 3: lockdowns and stuff, and I was a little depressobean and
Speaker 3: I just went to the movies by myself and I
Speaker 3: just saw this movie because it kept coming up, and
Speaker 3: I was just like, Yeah, that grain looks really good.
Speaker 3: I like the way that movie looks. I want to
Speaker 3: go see that movie. It's got a nice score. I'm
Speaker 3: going to take myself there. I'm really sad. And then
Speaker 3: I watched it and it's basically just like a movie
Speaker 3: that makes you realize all the little moments in life
Speaker 3: are just so special and so important. All those little
Speaker 3: mundane things are really beautiful if we take a moment
Speaker 3: to appreciate them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was clear what I need.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like, I want to go and eat
Speaker 3: an April cut fresh, like I felt like a manic
Speaker 3: Pixie dream girl. After that, I walked out of seeing
Speaker 3: that movie and I was like, it's gonna be okay. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and it was like it was there was like a
Speaker 3: sun shower as I was like walking out and it
Speaker 3: was like and I was like, oh my goodness, life
Speaker 3: is beautiful.
Speaker 1: But it is beautiful when you find a movie that
Speaker 1: hits you at the right time and everything, it just
Speaker 1: reminds you that life is beautiful and there is beauty
Speaker 1: around it and it doesn't have to be you said,
Speaker 1: you know, you weren't feeling great and that just was
Speaker 1: a perfect and sometimes just something a film can transport you.
Speaker 1: The one that for me recently was Past Lives. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure you're past Live?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it just like it did.
Speaker 1: I wasn't needing that film necessarily as far as anything
Speaker 1: I was dealing with, but it was just like a
Speaker 1: reminder of the journey of life and the friends sometimes
Speaker 1: we leave behind and the you know, the futures and
Speaker 1: sometimes when our history is in our presence kind of
Speaker 1: collide and it's the beauty of like relationships don't have
Speaker 1: to be discarded, Like you learn something from every relationship
Speaker 1: you have. Yeah, and it's not necessarily something I at
Speaker 1: all wrestle with. I've been married for now, happily married
Speaker 1: for twenty years, but I'm always fascinated with, like, what
Speaker 1: what's the point of relationships once they end? And even
Speaker 1: when I think about more through the eyes of my
Speaker 1: kids now, who you know, have got relationships going on
Speaker 1: and they're going to be dealing with this and you
Speaker 1: know there's a decent chance at some point those relationship
Speaker 1: will end and how do they deal with it? And
Speaker 1: what can I tell them about relationships? And I think
Speaker 1: past lives did that for me a little bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just whenever they kind of like going through it,
Speaker 3: just sit them down and put the movie on. You're like,
Speaker 3: I don't watch.
Speaker 2: This, that's parently when I want is a movie? A movie?
Speaker 2: It's Korean. It's very hip right now, Yeah, check it out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that when you kind of like walk away.
Speaker 3: But it's so strange as well, because you can have
Speaker 3: a completely different experience and someone else in who's watching
Speaker 3: that movie. And I'm so scared of showing people nine
Speaker 3: days because I'm like, I don't know, it might they
Speaker 3: might be like that was a good movie, but I'm like,
Speaker 3: it's actually, it's actually really important. It's actually a really
Speaker 3: important film. It's actually you should probably reevaluate everything and
Speaker 3: the way that you perceive the world.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I had the We did an episode of
Speaker 1: this podcast with Puns Drunk Love, which is one of
Speaker 1: my favorite again Paul Thomas Anderson love him, Adam Sandler
Speaker 1: in amazing form, like we never seen it Adam sand
Speaker 1: Lace before and the amazing Emily Watson and I love
Speaker 1: the film so much.
Speaker 2: And we did it with my good friend Hamis McDonald.
Speaker 1: And he just did not get it, and I was,
Speaker 1: I was like, but you know, and and it was
Speaker 1: a really it's a fascinating episode. But what I love
Speaker 1: aout Is podcast. What I've learned is it doesn't matter
Speaker 1: if you love the film or if you don't like
Speaker 1: the film. There's gonna be a conversation that happens. And
Speaker 1: you know, I never asked before the movie, before we
Speaker 1: start recording, I never asked you what your three pair
Speaker 1: films are and I never asked if you enjoyed the film,
Speaker 1: and not even actively trying to avoid knowing, but.
Speaker 2: It was like, oh, I really wanted you.
Speaker 1: And I was chatting to Georgia Tiney about it afterwards
Speaker 1: and she said she made a really good point. It's
Speaker 1: like that just makes it more that feel more special
Speaker 1: for you because you see the beauty in that film.
Speaker 1: So it's like, oh, you win, like you because you
Speaker 1: know you kind of you can see what he was
Speaker 1: trying to do. And that's nothing against Hamish or whoever
Speaker 1: doesn't like the film that you love.
Speaker 2: It just means that you saw the beauty in it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it does mean that you're better than the other person. Absolutely,
Speaker 3: that's exactly what it means. But I feel like, but sometimes,
Speaker 3: like when you show something.
Speaker 2: By the way, hamysh if you're listening, write it.
Speaker 3: Down, I feel like sometimes when you show someone in
Speaker 3: a movie, it feels really vulnerable. Like I feel like
Speaker 3: when you're like a little kid and you hold up
Speaker 3: your little macaroni picture and you're like, I made this
Speaker 3: for you. Do you like this beautiful thing that I
Speaker 3: have made? And they're like okay, Like oh I was
Speaker 3: sharing a part of my soul.
Speaker 2: He's a mixtape or slash playlist for younger. It's not in.
Speaker 2: It's not you know, you want you want.
Speaker 1: When I I was you know, I would make mixtapes
Speaker 1: and I would expect them to be blown away like
Speaker 1: a parties going. I'm gonna put them wait for the
Speaker 1: right time and put my mixtape on and let's see
Speaker 1: if we can get this party started.
Speaker 2: No, the parties. Somebody's halfway through the first long somebody's
Speaker 2: changed it already.
Speaker 3: Okay, you're like, all right, I'm gonna I'm gonna go.
Speaker 3: Wait the car. I'm not wanted here. Let's see if
Speaker 3: anyone notices I'm gone. Let's play that game.
Speaker 2: You're gonna sit on the front steps for a while.
Speaker 3: Hey man, how are you going? I'm okay, all right.
Speaker 1: No, let's get into the movie. We are here to
Speaker 1: talk about.
Speaker 2: We got it, give it, give it to my peace.
Speaker 4: Get you with a knife, you said, total man, you
Speaker 4: need a doctor, I'll call it cop.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no cops.
Speaker 4: You want a boy the law or something.
Speaker 2: No, it's okay. Are you nuts?
Speaker 4: Carrying a water around like that?
Speaker 2: And name? But like this the money you got here,
Speaker 2: thanks I'm obliged to you. I gotta get a coin.
Speaker 2: You ain't gonna know.
Speaker 1: I got her, gotta run some slots down in West
Speaker 1: Bend for a mob here.
Speaker 2: I got a little behind in the paiholes. So that
Speaker 2: figure I've been holding out on him. They came Hi
Speaker 2: until four to come up with the cash. They don't
Speaker 2: get it.
Speaker 4: I'm dead and don't look good.
Speaker 2: Grabs. It's almost four now. I'll give you and your
Speaker 2: friend one hundred bucks to deliver it for me.
Speaker 4: I don't know that mugged the hitches.
Speaker 2: Mad enough of me already.
Speaker 4: Well, what if he's around a corner waiting with some friends.
Speaker 2: You don't know you're carrying it? Come on, you gotta
Speaker 2: help me out. Yeah, I'm sorry, bo.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna maybe help you get fixed up, get to
Speaker 4: a doctor.
Speaker 2: But I ain't about to walk in. No knife for you?
Speaker 2: How about you? All you got to do is to
Speaker 2: put them in the dose slot. I'll give you the
Speaker 2: whole hundred.
Speaker 4: Hey, what makes you think you can trust him?
Speaker 2: He didn't new shit?
Speaker 3: Hey, butt out, chicken liver.
Speaker 4: I get him back the wallet, didn't I How far
Speaker 4: is this play?
Speaker 2: Eighteen eleven Mason put in box three seats. You won't
Speaker 2: have no trouble. There's five thousand dollars there and here's
Speaker 2: one hundred bucks for you.
Speaker 4: Okay, well man, I'll make your drop for you, and
Speaker 4: don't worry.
Speaker 2: You can trust me. Not sure if you can.
Speaker 1: Frankie McNair from nineteen seventy three, directed by, of course,
Speaker 1: George roy Hill, becomes the first man first director to
Speaker 1: have two films passed one million dollar box office mark
Speaker 1: with this, after Butch Cassid in the Sun, Dance Kid,
Speaker 1: Robert Redford, Paul Newman, Eileen Brennan, Charles Durning, Robert Shaw,
Speaker 1: Great Cast, Robert L.
Speaker 2: Jones. I said, that's the father of Darth Vader James L. Jones.
Speaker 2: Did you enjoy nineteen seventy three's The Sting?
Speaker 3: I loved it. I loved it.
Speaker 2: It was so good, excellent.
Speaker 3: It was I think when it it started with the
Speaker 3: like opening titles and they're kind of all painted and
Speaker 3: it does feel like that kind of like nineties, like
Speaker 3: teen twenties, almost like like like a magazine or something. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I was a bit like, like, is this about to
Speaker 3: be like Roger Rabbit Hours where it's like everyone's from
Speaker 3: the twenties and they're worrying a Fanora. But it was
Speaker 3: so good. It felt like watching like Casino like in
Speaker 3: terms of like it was stressful, Yeah, it was stressful,
Speaker 3: but it was so funny as well.
Speaker 1: When did you feel like you're in safe fans? Like
Speaker 1: you said, you had that moment where it's like, oh
Speaker 1: during the opening titles and oh, okay, this is But
Speaker 1: when did you feel like, oh, no, I feel like
Speaker 1: I always talk about feeling like you're in safe fans,
Speaker 1: which puts cashing in to something that scared. It happened
Speaker 1: straight away that the CPR kind of opening titles. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna love this film.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you have a moment where you kind of
Speaker 2: felt that.
Speaker 3: Robert Redford as soon as that man opened his mouth,
Speaker 3: I'm like, you know what we're gonna be okay?
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And that first that first con that we we just
Speaker 1: listened to with Luther and Johnny Hooker, we do you
Speaker 1: know what was going on to you? Because because I
Speaker 1: must say, it kind of beat me. I was like, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: this is this is, this is happening. Even though the
Speaker 1: movie is called a sting, and I know that Robert
Speaker 1: Redford's you know, the main one of the main characters.
Speaker 1: So of course they're pulling off some kind of job.
Speaker 1: But I was like, oh, this poor guy.
Speaker 3: I it took me so long, like that scene had
Speaker 3: well and truly finished before I realized what they did,
Speaker 3: which is they had five They had like five thousand dollars,
Speaker 3: and then they get they give it to the guy
Speaker 3: and then they open his wallet and they say, no,
Speaker 3: you're gonna put all your all your money on top
Speaker 3: in case they search you, and so they by the
Speaker 3: end of it they also take his money. But in
Speaker 3: my head, I was like, did they just give that
Speaker 3: guy five thousand dollars but then take it back off him.
Speaker 3: I guess maybe they're doing it for the thrill, like
Speaker 3: and I was like, no, they got like eleven thousand dollars. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but it took me so long I honestly thought. I
Speaker 3: was just like, it's not really a con, you're just
Speaker 3: kind of pranking someone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're playing a switcher rude. So they puts it
Speaker 1: Danny's pants to show him this is where you put it,
Speaker 1: and then he takes out another something wrapped in it
Speaker 1: was some kind of sheet or something, you know, small.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like a hanky, like a hanky yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And and so he's got that placed and he
Speaker 1: gets out of there and gives it to him, but
Speaker 1: it's all fake.
Speaker 2: It's all paper.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just paper. And the guy thinks he's just
Speaker 3: gotten away by stealing like five thousand dollars, but he's
Speaker 3: just given them his money. But I just I missed.
Speaker 3: I missed the bit where he put his money in
Speaker 3: there as well, and I was just like, what happened?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 1: The thing about this film sometimes I will say which
Speaker 1: and I really enjoyed it as well the first time
Speaker 1: up for me seeing it, there are times when you're like,
Speaker 1: do they show you enough?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: You know sometimes so Ocean's eleven is a good example, yeah,
Speaker 1: where sometimes they explain how they're going to do it
Speaker 1: and then things while then go wrong. And this thing
Speaker 1: doesn't follow that format. But I think it's good to
Speaker 1: kind of see the switches made. Yeah, and I don't
Speaker 1: think I think the sting cheats a little bit, and
Speaker 1: I might be wrong. Feel free to let us know.
Speaker 1: But by not showing you those slot of hands like
Speaker 1: the card.
Speaker 3: Games, yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when does Paul Newman's character Henry, When does he
Speaker 1: make that switch to turn the threes into jacks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I wanted to see too, because at
Speaker 3: no point, because I was watching that card game and
Speaker 3: I'm like, I want to see it's like watching a magician,
Speaker 3: Like you're like, I want to see if I can
Speaker 3: see when they do it. But at no point did
Speaker 3: he do anything with his hands that would even indicate
Speaker 3: that he had cards like hidden at like he was
Speaker 3: lighting a cigarette and I was like, did you do it?
Speaker 3: Then there's no possible way. Yeah, all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: it's like the threes at jacks and you're like, okay, yeah.
Speaker 1: So often films will do almost as a flashback to
Speaker 1: kind of let the audience know that the audience, and
Speaker 1: I thought that was one of the things that I
Speaker 1: felt was missing in this. But there's still so much
Speaker 1: to like about it. We're speaking a lot about you
Speaker 1: and refer but let's keep talking about them because they're
Speaker 1: obviously mates. There's a concern from the movie company the
Speaker 1: studio that because for this the work, you kind of
Speaker 1: feel like you do need to have a feeling that
Speaker 1: Johnny may betray Henry and vice versa, and I'm not
Speaker 1: sure if you felt that, but the studio were worried
Speaker 1: that because they're famously friends, will the audience kind of think, well,
Speaker 1: they're not going to betray each other because it's it's
Speaker 1: their mates. Yeah, And I kind of, I must say,
Speaker 1: I didn't necessarily feel I knew that they were trying
Speaker 1: to get at that, and I have to agree to
Speaker 1: the studio, not that I must say. I still enjoyed
Speaker 1: the film, but I did kind of. I never felt
Speaker 1: that I was going to betray each other.
Speaker 3: I didn't think Henry would ever betray I thought that
Speaker 3: he was just doing it for the for the for
Speaker 3: the love of it. When Cooker kind of it's like
Speaker 3: set up to be like, you've got to turn him in,
Speaker 3: and then they start saying that they're going to put
Speaker 3: Luther's wife in prison. As soon as that happened, I
Speaker 3: was like, I reckon he would because he loved that
Speaker 3: family at the beginning when he walked in that family,
Speaker 3: he loved them so much and they loved him so much,
Speaker 3: and I was just like, oh, no, he needs to
Speaker 3: protect that family. He's got to do it. And it
Speaker 3: broke my heart. I believed it, but I didn't believe
Speaker 3: that these two people had just met, because I was
Speaker 3: like that chemistry is great, they are for friends, they
Speaker 3: are right or dies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny the things that we wouldn't maybe forgive
Speaker 1: if that movie came out today, There'd be so many
Speaker 1: things I think we wouldn't forgive about it. But because
Speaker 1: it's maybe nineteen seventy three and there's so much to
Speaker 1: like about the film, you allow these films to take
Speaker 1: shortcuts in a way that I don't think we allow
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four, for better or worse. Sometimes sometimes
Speaker 1: I wish we could just like cut to the chase.
Speaker 2: Yeah, be quicker.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they just got like this where house and they
Speaker 3: turned it into like a fake casino like Overnight, And
Speaker 3: I didn't question that. And then I was thinking, I'm like,
Speaker 3: I've done shows. You don't just have one guy that
Speaker 3: you go to and you say, here's two thousand dollars,
Speaker 3: give me a casino and then it happens. But I
Speaker 3: was just like, my suspension of disbelief, let's go, let's
Speaker 3: right this.
Speaker 1: And this movie does rely on that suspension of disbelief,
Speaker 1: and it's a famous trope. I'm not sure when that
Speaker 1: trope first came up where it's like everybody working together
Speaker 1: to build something Three Amigos. It is probably the first
Speaker 1: time I ever saw it where it's like the whole
Speaker 1: town gets together and so's you know, one hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty you know amigo kind of suits, you know, and
Speaker 1: with the sombreros and everything. And for me, the first
Speaker 1: time I've seen that trick played, I was like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, that is amazing. How do they think of that?
Speaker 1: You know, impossible? Sure, but I don't care. It's a movie.
Speaker 1: This was This was almost more possible and I think
Speaker 1: than what the Three Amigos tried to pull off. But
Speaker 1: it was, Yeah, it was I think, pretty joyous. Did
Speaker 1: you did you understand this thing from go?
Speaker 2: Did you?
Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by murder mysteries and shows like this kind
Speaker 1: of God Like, how important is it to understand the sting?
Speaker 2: Do you think?
Speaker 3: So here's the thing about me. I have a lot
Speaker 3: to offer the world. I'm pretty dumb. I'm happy to
Speaker 3: say I got this smooth, this brainmooth. She's smooth that
Speaker 3: she's been buffed down, no lines, She's beautiful. But I
Speaker 3: think I was like, as it was kind of unfolding,
Speaker 3: I was like, all right, I understand, Like when they
Speaker 3: were getting this like Casino, I was like, but why
Speaker 3: would they do that? So I was very much just
Speaker 3: like along for the ride, and so was I.
Speaker 1: I reckon, I understood, and I watched it twice, so
Speaker 1: I kind of maybe picked up a few more things
Speaker 1: the second time because I was really looking out for
Speaker 1: it the second time. But I think the first time
Speaker 1: I understood thirty thirty percent of it, Like yeah, but
Speaker 1: I still enjoyed it, and I think it's a sign
Speaker 1: of good filmmaking or good chemistry that you can because
Speaker 1: there's also a lot of character and they like more
Speaker 1: so than the sting. I didn't quite necessarily understand the
Speaker 1: kind of character and lot was when did he kind
Speaker 1: of come in on?
Speaker 3: And yeah, I think that was when there was It
Speaker 3: was only one line that they said, we've got to
Speaker 3: find a way to get because Hook is kind of
Speaker 3: being because he gave someone counterfeit money. So there's like
Speaker 3: so many moving parts in this movie as well. He
Speaker 3: gave someone counterfeit money, so then he's got this cop
Speaker 3: on his tail. So they said, we've got to find
Speaker 3: a way to get him off your back. So there's
Speaker 3: this whole side plot going on that we don't know about,
Speaker 3: where they've set up a mini FBI headquarters, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to think of organizing all these moving parts,
Speaker 3: and I'm like the group chats, the group chats, if
Speaker 3: you were doing that today, and you'd have someone messaging
Speaker 3: of like five minutes before being like, hey guys, I'm
Speaker 3: so sorry I can't do this thing today. I'm so sorry.
Speaker 3: I'm feeling anxious. Hey guys, I'm so sorry I can't
Speaker 3: do this thing today. I'm really burnt out. That's me,
Speaker 3: by the way, that's me messaging chat. I actually I
Speaker 3: would love to maybe another time, absolutely, But yeah, there
Speaker 3: were a lot of moving part And then I think
Speaker 3: as well, there was they had someone like reading the
Speaker 3: tape that was like, but I didn't understand how they
Speaker 3: were picking the winning horses.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So so this is the bit that I kind of
Speaker 1: when the first time, I was like, what's a rough
Speaker 1: idea what might be going on? So basically and this is,
Speaker 1: you know, this is it works because of its time.
Speaker 1: It wouldn't work in twenty twenty four where people are
Speaker 1: watching horse racing live on their phones. But they were
Speaker 1: able to get the results from the Western somebody on
Speaker 1: the inside at Western Union, the phone company who gave
Speaker 1: them the results you know, a few I suspect minutes
Speaker 1: before it then went out, so they were able to
Speaker 1: do a fake radio call of the of the of
Speaker 1: the race. They had the results, you know, so they
Speaker 1: were able to know, put your bed on this, it's
Speaker 1: about to start.
Speaker 2: Bang, you win. So yeah, that's that's why they go in.
Speaker 1: One of my favorite scenes, I think is when they
Speaker 1: go into the Western Union off because he wants to
Speaker 1: that meetings so good.
Speaker 2: It's it's so much fun.
Speaker 1: They go in with the you know, anytime when people
Speaker 1: are just as painters and then they're just goin to
Speaker 1: take the painting suit off, It's like, yeah, it's so cool.
Speaker 3: I think that was the thing about because like, I
Speaker 3: love any I think that wasn't one of the reasons
Speaker 3: that I wanted to watch this movie. I love anything
Speaker 3: that has to do with like carn artists. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: I was thinking about it, I'm like, why do I
Speaker 3: love that? I'm like, oh, it's just people playing and pretend. Yeah,
Speaker 3: which is what we like to do. And so anytime
Speaker 3: that there's like elaborate costume changes, and someone having to
Speaker 3: like put on a funny voice or put on like
Speaker 3: a fake mustache. I'm like, this is the movie for me.
Speaker 3: I love to watch it.
Speaker 1: And there's also the lingo and I thought of you,
Speaker 1: you know, because of you know, Tabitha and the lingo,
Speaker 1: all those you know, if you if you, but if
Speaker 1: you're on the lamb, you know, like it's all that
Speaker 1: stuff that's like so rich, but if you're not, it
Speaker 1: can cause some confusion. If you are watching in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four and I go, what does that? I knew
Speaker 1: what some of it meant, but there's other stuff that
Speaker 1: you're going to go. I don't quite know what they're
Speaker 1: talking about here. Let's ever listen to I think when
Speaker 1: they bring in Johnny Hooker in the.
Speaker 3: FBI, Oh, one of my favorite leads.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's have it. I think this is the one
Speaker 2: special agent Polk FBI.
Speaker 4: Have a chair. Do you want to drink or something? No,
Speaker 4: we want to talk to you about Henry Gondoor.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think I know.
Speaker 4: I'll give yourself a couple of seconds.
Speaker 2: You wouldn't want to lie to me. Lieutenant Snyder here.
Speaker 4: Says you've done a lot of confidence work.
Speaker 2: In his town.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Lieutennis Snyder does no shit, you ain't got
Speaker 4: nothing on me. Yeah, how about counterfeiting, We've got to
Speaker 4: tip the Gundorf is going to run a can on the.
Speaker 2: South side here.
Speaker 1: All you've got to do is tell.
Speaker 3: Us when he's going to play is trump We commit
Speaker 3: at the sting, make the pension.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Actually there's some language that maybe wasn't in that clip,
Speaker 1: but that there is in that scene. This certainly they
Speaker 1: certainly go there's one passage where they really go hard
Speaker 1: on like there's like seven terms that are certainly out
Speaker 1: of straight out of the nineteen thirty.
Speaker 3: Yeh, which is just like you know, like and if
Speaker 3: you play it like that, every thing will be just
Speaker 3: Jack is Jack. Another character that's got one of my
Speaker 3: favorite lines where Robert Redford stands up and points at
Speaker 3: the FBI agent and says, you stink, mister, just real earnest,
Speaker 3: And I'm like, let's yes, you couldn't. You couldn't play
Speaker 3: that off today. I'm just being like, and he's going
Speaker 3: to stand up and in a very earnest moment, insult
Speaker 3: this man to his face. You stink, miss her.
Speaker 2: I'm surprised. So Robert Redford.
Speaker 1: I think it's only nomination for an Oscar for this,
Speaker 1: and the kind of surprised me that this is the
Speaker 1: one because and he was even during the production saying,
Speaker 1: all I'm doing is running around, and he was a
Speaker 1: little bit unhappy to the point where or nervous about it,
Speaker 1: to the point where the director ended up giving him
Speaker 1: like a Golden Road Runner statuette at the end of
Speaker 1: production saying, you know, this is for you, thanks for
Speaker 1: all the running you've done. But yeah, he was a
Speaker 1: bit nervous about taking this roll on. But it's the
Speaker 1: one that you get nominated for, which I'm a touch surprised,
Speaker 1: as good as he is in this, but this is like,
Speaker 1: so this gets nominated for wins the Best Actor. I
Speaker 1: think it's sandwich between Godfather Part one and Godfather Part two.
Speaker 1: And this is like when New Hollywood is beginning. So
Speaker 1: he got Scorsese and Spielberg. You know, George is not
Speaker 1: long after this, Robert Shaw goes on to starring Jaws,
Speaker 1: you know, France for a Coppola. This, you know, this
Speaker 1: cool kind of you know, movies are being made, and
Speaker 1: this kind of feels like almost just a bridge between
Speaker 1: old Hollywood. This is this is the ocean's eleven of
Speaker 1: its day. This is pure entertainment, and I think potentially
Speaker 1: I think it wins because it wasn't like it's a
Speaker 1: dark time like I think the Nixon Watergate, you know,
Speaker 1: trials that just happened, and you know he had been impeached.
Speaker 1: Vietnam was you know, still going and getting close to
Speaker 1: it its its end point, but still going. So I
Speaker 1: think there's always this thinking when times are dark, we
Speaker 1: look for like, you know, lighter yea time, and vice versa.
Speaker 1: When things are you know, going well, then we're happy
Speaker 1: to have more synces.
Speaker 3: We're like, okay, we're ready to process that, bring it in,
Speaker 3: bringing meet with.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I say, I'm surprised. In one hand, I'm
Speaker 1: surprised at won the Oscar. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: I think we often want popular movies to win Oscars
Speaker 1: and not always be about the worthy. The worthy films
Speaker 1: always winning them, but when one does, it invariably gets
Speaker 1: a bit of pushback and really was that the best
Speaker 1: film of that year?
Speaker 2: So The Exorcise was released the same week.
Speaker 1: That this film was so wild, Like you cannot get
Speaker 1: two films trying to do two different things.
Speaker 3: Because this maybe it's such a good job I think
Speaker 3: of being really grounded in that like nineteen twenties as well,
Speaker 3: Like there are a few times that I forgot that
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, this was made in seventy four, because
Speaker 3: it did feel like a much older movie, like even
Speaker 3: the way that, like you know, like they had like
Speaker 3: the whole like kind of everyone in the casino like
Speaker 3: moving at one time, and all the extras like bustling
Speaker 3: around and stuff. I don't know what it was about.
Speaker 3: I don't know if they're costuming or something, but it
Speaker 3: did feel like I'm watching a movie that was made
Speaker 3: in like the fifties or the forties.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: The Exorcist was made the same came out the same
Speaker 3: same week.
Speaker 2: Imagine making that choice, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, when you're seeing them, you don't know
Speaker 1: that these movies going to become The Sting and The Exorcist.
Speaker 2: But bloody hell, that is quite a choice.
Speaker 1: I do love in that scene where we're talking about
Speaker 1: the Western Union when they're painting that they just walk
Speaker 1: out and leave it.
Speaker 3: Like that made me feel so anxious.
Speaker 1: I was a little bit like, you can at least
Speaker 1: finish the wall couldn't you finish.
Speaker 3: Painting the wall? This board man is just being cold,
Speaker 3: and I think that that was the thing. I'm like,
Speaker 3: I was rooting for them because I'm like, yeah, you're
Speaker 3: getting the bad guy, and then they did that and I, wait,
Speaker 3: you're also the bad guy. Wait, you're ruined this man's
Speaker 3: day and war.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't be completely clean. I don't think when
Speaker 1: you're trying to pull off a sting. I think I yeah,
Speaker 1: I got my head around it enough. Like I said,
Speaker 1: there were elements of this that I was trying. I
Speaker 1: was playing catch up. And it is that thing with movies,
Speaker 1: like you do always need to be ahead of your audience.
Speaker 2: You know, you do need to be. You can't you can't.
Speaker 1: Have them At the same point, you know that you
Speaker 1: need to be every scene the you should be asking
Speaker 1: subconsciously questions, I want, Okay, how's you gonna get out
Speaker 1: of this? You know what's gonna happen next? And I
Speaker 1: think this film that's does it really well. There's one
Speaker 1: element that I must say I did not. I thought
Speaker 1: they it was another cheat And I know I've come
Speaker 1: with a couple of critical points, but I did.
Speaker 2: Really enjoy it.
Speaker 1: But the assassin, the twist, the turn. I mean, what
Speaker 1: did you think about the assassin Loretta?
Speaker 2: I think her name was it.
Speaker 3: I didn't think that there was enough. Like again, it
Speaker 3: was like one line where I can't remember Loretta's like
Speaker 3: last name that they are like referring to her by.
Speaker 3: But there's like one line where they're like, we need
Speaker 3: to get our best guy on it. I can't remember that.
Speaker 3: Then they're like, oh fine, And that was kind of
Speaker 3: the only setup of that they have someone going after
Speaker 3: the person who has given them counterfeit money or has
Speaker 3: stolen that like five grand. From the beginning. Yeah, it
Speaker 3: was just that one line and then every so often
Speaker 3: you just see like a gloved hand and you're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: I guess that's the assassin. No, it's not. We got
Speaker 3: a little fem fatale in the house.
Speaker 2: It has no lines, no line, and no agency. Like
Speaker 2: they said to her at one point, she's a real professional.
Speaker 2: She did sweet fuck all, like like she slept.
Speaker 1: With him, and they said, why didn't he why didn't
Speaker 1: they she take him out when too many people would
Speaker 1: have seen and like the old lady crossed the hall
Speaker 1: would have But she's easily if you're an assassin.
Speaker 2: She's easily you know, taken care of. Oh yeah, she's.
Speaker 3: Probably about to go herself, but it's not much work.
Speaker 3: Yeah that felt really it did give me watching it.
Speaker 3: I guess that extra sense off. I was like, oh no,
Speaker 3: Robert Redford, you can fall in love. Oh my goodness,
Speaker 3: Oh no, what if I was the lady working at well,
Speaker 3: what if I was lady working there? On deer? But
Speaker 3: also I was so frustrated when I saw that he
Speaker 3: was like flirting with her, firstly because it wasn't me,
Speaker 3: and then secondly because I was just like, you have
Speaker 3: a job to do, so don't you dare? Don't you
Speaker 3: dare for it? Because she has beautiful hair. Yeah, just wait,
Speaker 3: wait a day, wait a couple of days. But also
Speaker 3: I'm like, if she's an assassin, why wouldn't you just
Speaker 3: kill him like straight away there?
Speaker 1: And also he's always going to her, so like you
Speaker 1: gotta have agency. You need to show her doing her job,
Speaker 1: like have it that she buys him a drink, you know,
Speaker 1: one on the house before you leave, you know, and
Speaker 1: start the conversation. But it's always him going to her,
Speaker 1: which is just too convenient. Yeah, you know, let her
Speaker 1: seduce him and then whether it takes place in her
Speaker 1: apartment or not. But it's I thought it was very lazy.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 3: It felt like a bit of like a oh, you know,
Speaker 3: we have put that lane in about an assassin going
Speaker 3: after him. We're going to do a couple of pickups.
Speaker 3: We're going to put it all right. She's working at
Speaker 3: the diner. Absolutely, Didn't it just make you want to
Speaker 3: eat it a diner?
Speaker 2: I always want to eat an American dinas.
Speaker 3: Yeah. All I was thinking was like, where are our
Speaker 3: twenty four hour diners?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Here, I want to get waffles at two am and
Speaker 3: fall in love with someone working at the diner who
Speaker 3: may or may not try to kill me. That's none
Speaker 3: of my business, but I want to do it.
Speaker 1: I feel like like a genuine diner as opposed to
Speaker 1: like a Johnny Rockets where people are on skates and they.
Speaker 2: Come over with happy birthday to somebody at a booth.
Speaker 1: It's like, I want to feel like the genuine diner
Speaker 1: or roadhouse that they have.
Speaker 2: We just don't really have that culture here.
Speaker 3: We don't, but I think we should. I think there
Speaker 3: are enough in so many acts like a twenty four
Speaker 3: hour diner, especially in Melbourne.
Speaker 1: I want if Americans watch astraying films ago, I'd love
Speaker 1: to go to a milk bar.
Speaker 3: But do we have that. We don't really have many.
Speaker 2: No milk bar. It's probably gone the way of the Dodo.
Speaker 3: I don't know what we have any I don't think
Speaker 3: we have an.
Speaker 1: Equivalent No, No, I think we have an equivalent of
Speaker 1: a We have a bigger pub culture.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Americans are watching. They're like, oh, wish I could
Speaker 3: go get a parma. Wish I could go get a
Speaker 3: twenty three dollar parma.
Speaker 2: Cotten a parma barma.
Speaker 1: Just there's a schnitzen tits.
Speaker 2: When I go, When I go down under Unders.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm doing, And I'm gonna and I'm gonna
Speaker 3: watch a forty three year old man do carry OK,
Speaker 3: That's what I'm want to do when I'm there. That's
Speaker 3: what we've gone. Weir and we have culture, and that's
Speaker 3: what this is about. This movie. All that made me
Speaker 3: want to do is eat it a diner and gamble. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: and maybe try to. Actually, when my housemate and I
Speaker 3: were watching it, we did start trying to see if
Speaker 3: we could pickpocket one another. We can't.
Speaker 2: It's so funny, isn't it.
Speaker 1: Whenever you see in these kind of movies anybody just
Speaker 1: bump into each other, you get it, Well, there's the walletstole.
Speaker 3: But it's so what because I was like, how did they?
Speaker 3: And we were we were practicing, we have had things
Speaker 3: in our pocket and we were like walking past one
Speaker 3: another and just like shoving each other and grabbing it.
Speaker 3: We're like, noth felt that, not felt that? Do it again?
Speaker 3: And I remembered when I was in I was in
Speaker 3: Rome and I was on a train and there were
Speaker 3: a bunch of pickpockets and we could see them because
Speaker 3: they were in a group. And someone said to us like, hey,
Speaker 3: just when you get on and off the train, that's
Speaker 3: when they do their thing. And I was like okay, great,
Speaker 3: and so we were I was like twenty and I
Speaker 3: was like oh no, no, no no, and we're getting
Speaker 3: off the train and a lady I saw, she turned
Speaker 3: and there was just a hand in her bag and
Speaker 3: she was also Australian, and she just grabbed her bag
Speaker 3: and just went no, thank you, no, thank you, don't
Speaker 3: pickpocket me. Please to think about that, think about what
Speaker 3: you've done. No, thank you, absolutely not. Not on my holiday.
Speaker 1: I love that Eileen Brennan. There's a great performance. Eileen
Speaker 1: Brennan is so good. People know her from the Last
Speaker 1: Picture Show. She was awesome in that. They also will
Speaker 1: know her from a Private Benjamin with Goldie Horn, And
Speaker 1: there are these little shortcuts when she when Hooker goes
Speaker 1: to see Henry for the first time, and she's sweeping
Speaker 1: at the stairs and this is like, is Henry Gondolf
Speaker 1: for there? She goes scram beat it and she's like, Luther, Sammy,
Speaker 1: are you you hook Yeah, come on in. It's just
Speaker 1: why not you know, if you're expecting somebody, you know,
Speaker 1: and they've asked for Amy, the Luther sends you.
Speaker 3: It's yeah, something like news travels fast, like Luther just
Speaker 3: got killed. I guess they had phones. Yeah, I guess
Speaker 3: they had phones. But that's kind of something that I
Speaker 3: was like, like, how does this man know where to go?
Speaker 3: I think I must have missed something because he immediately
Speaker 3: was like, I'm going to go visit this man I've
Speaker 3: never met, who's the best in the Bears? Yeah, and
Speaker 3: start this big con. Yeah, it's probably why I was
Speaker 3: trying to pickpocket my house. I was probably busy trying
Speaker 3: to get like wait, let me see if I can
Speaker 3: do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've never been pickpockeing, but I always kind of
Speaker 1: think surely I would feel it, you know.
Speaker 2: But yeah, the good ones. Let's have a listen.
Speaker 1: We're going to go backwards a little bit to it's
Speaker 1: one of the most iconic scenes in the film, which
Speaker 1: is a card game.
Speaker 2: So Henry is playing drunk.
Speaker 1: He's drinking out of the way I took it was
Speaker 1: like basically gin with water in it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, or just a bottle of either diluted it or
Speaker 2: it's it's just water.
Speaker 1: And he enters a hyphen Luton High society game of
Speaker 1: cards with our good friend Robert Shaw Lonigan, and he
Speaker 1: he enters.
Speaker 4: Sing, lad guys, I was taking a crap named Shaw.
Speaker 2: Mister Shaw, meet mister Jamison from Chicago.
Speaker 4: Tire Lombard, Philadelphia, mister Lonigan from New York Crazy, meet
Speaker 4: you mister Clayton Pittsburgh. So any of you guys want
Speaker 4: to make a little book at Chicago. I'm a going
Speaker 4: to see. Game is straight poker, one hundred dollars minimum
Speaker 4: table steaks.
Speaker 2: Mister Shaw, this is a gentleman's game. We assume you're
Speaker 2: all good for your debts.
Speaker 4: How much would you like, mister Shaw, I'll start with
Speaker 4: five thousand, mister Shaw. We usually require a tie at
Speaker 4: this table, and if you don't have one, we can
Speaker 4: get your one.
Speaker 3: Hey, it'd be real, mister larwen lalagam u.
Speaker 1: It's I mean, that would have played very funny, I
Speaker 1: think in you know, in cinemas back then. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think it's funny. We even watching it now. A
Speaker 1: couple of things like him saying taking a crap. I
Speaker 1: do wonder what this is, is someone unexpected to hear the
Speaker 1: word crap in a film and like referring to it
Speaker 1: as actually taking a dump, Like I kind of think
Speaker 1: that must I wondered if that was pretty edgy in
Speaker 1: cinemas in the seventies, all this unexpected Maybe I kind of.
Speaker 3: Kept I think again, because they did such a good
Speaker 3: job of like rooting it in that kind of like
Speaker 3: nineteen twenties that whenever they did say like shit or
Speaker 3: that crap and stuff, I was a bit like like
Speaker 3: clutching my part. They didn't say this in the twenties,
Speaker 3: but like, yeah, it's so good. I think it would have.
Speaker 3: I don't know, I think it would have been. But
Speaker 3: also you think about the fact that it's, you know,
Speaker 3: The Exorcist that had come out the same week, but
Speaker 3: I think it just doesn't feel a part of the world. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so I think that's probably why. I guess, like, in
Speaker 3: the world, someone speaking like that is kind of shocking.
Speaker 1: And yeah, the character is trying to be uncouthant, you know,
Speaker 1: and to create this impression that he doesn't really belong
Speaker 1: and he's maybe not you know, he's drunk, so he's
Speaker 1: probably easy to take advantage of. When when Lonigan takes
Speaker 1: the bottle of gin off him, I thought, you know,
Speaker 1: they where it was heading, was he's about to be discovered,
Speaker 1: because you know, maybe he'll poor And I thought, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, he wanted to ask her. It's much of
Speaker 1: a loved film. But I think they miss an opportunity.
Speaker 3: Frankie, I've got a couple of people.
Speaker 2: I get some notes.
Speaker 3: Yet I think you've forgotten. I think you've set something up. Yeah,
Speaker 3: perhaps nothing, Okay, did you run out of time? Okay? Yeah,
Speaker 3: because there was like a bit of a thing of
Speaker 3: him filling it up and he explains he's like, you've
Speaker 3: got to dilute it. So they think you're drunk and
Speaker 3: then the bottle gets taken off and you are kind
Speaker 3: of like, oh shit, and it's just like, oh no,
Speaker 3: that was nothing happens.
Speaker 2: Okay, nothing happened.
Speaker 1: So even they obviously don't want him to get called
Speaker 1: out because they want him to get through this. And
Speaker 1: then they'll send Robert Redford into the room and we'll
Speaker 1: listen to that bit in the second. But there an
Speaker 1: opportunity is to pour, you know, a shot and then
Speaker 1: kind of go to drink it, you know, and then
Speaker 1: decide not to.
Speaker 2: Let's have that tension engine would have been good. So
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, George or Hill.
Speaker 3: We'll send them through, take them or leave them if
Speaker 3: you want. I lone Agans.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about Robert Shaw.
Speaker 3: It was awesome. Is he Irish?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes he is Irish. Yes, he's in Jaws. He
Speaker 2: plays like a.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the big and that's a big monologue about
Speaker 1: the World War two and the sharks in the water
Speaker 1: and all that face on the true story.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: His voice the first time you see him, it's just
Speaker 3: like his back and he starts speaking like that. I
Speaker 3: was like, oh, what a cartoon evil man, what a
Speaker 3: mustache twirling villain? And he had like a limp, and
Speaker 3: I was like, you are like a Dudley do Right
Speaker 3: kind of evil character. Yeah, awesome.
Speaker 1: And he has a limp because he actually heard himself
Speaker 1: playing racquetball in real life. Really yeah, and taur ligaments,
Speaker 1: so they just he was wearing a knee brace and
Speaker 1: luckily they had his wider set pants in the nineteen
Speaker 1: thirties and they were able to, you know, make that work.
Speaker 1: But it becomes part of the character.
Speaker 3: I love movie. I love movie.
Speaker 2: It's so good. It's so good.
Speaker 1: But he is really and this movie, like you say,
Speaker 1: this cartoon villain, and that's exactly what this movie wants,
Speaker 1: Like yeah, you know, and it's interesting because he's an
Speaker 1: Irish mob boss, which is probably they'll probably relieve they
Speaker 1: went that way because at the time you had The
Speaker 1: Godfather and that was played with protests from the Italian
Speaker 1: American community, you know, you know, not really wanting that
Speaker 1: part of their culture immortalized on screen. So I'm really
Speaker 1: I just love watching Robert Shaw. All the way through this,
Speaker 1: I thought he was just so good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was really, really good. I really enjoyed watching him.
Speaker 3: He just he gave so little but like I don't know,
Speaker 3: he was just so contained. But also I did notice
Speaker 3: he had incredible blush on. There was like one scene
Speaker 3: where I was like, girl, you're highlighted, Like it was
Speaker 3: just like right, he had these little rosy cheeks and
Speaker 3: I was just like, absolutely lean into that character choice.
Speaker 3: This man is evil, but he takes his time to
Speaker 3: present himself.
Speaker 1: Well, he is a well dressed man. Certainly well, I
Speaker 1: certainly noticed that I didn't notice the blush. I'm going
Speaker 1: to watch it for a third time now, you'll notice.
Speaker 3: It looks like a little Cherub's beautiful.
Speaker 2: He's so much fun. And then the next bit happens
Speaker 2: where he sends so Henry's finished, He's part of this thing.
Speaker 1: He gets out. Like you said, there's elements I love
Speaker 1: to say. I really genuinely love the scene. I love
Speaker 1: the way Newman is acting. I love the way he's
Speaker 1: protecting his cards.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I would have loved to have seen, at some point,
Speaker 1: whether it happens later on, how he was able to
Speaker 1: manipulate his cards.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I love the idea though, that both are trying to cheat.
Speaker 1: And that's why Lonigan can't really call him out, because
Speaker 1: what am I going to say that he cheated better
Speaker 1: than I did? And that caint comes out when he
Speaker 1: sends Johnny Hooker into the room to confront him or
Speaker 1: the pick up the cash. But Johnny Hooker has got
Speaker 1: other ideas. And I must say I really enjoyed this
Speaker 1: because I was like, oh, okay, where is this going?
Speaker 1: Like this idea that okay, you know he's confession straight away.
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, let's yeah, let's see where this goes.
Speaker 1: But let's have a listen.
Speaker 3: Every bus is quite a card player, mister Kelly. How
Speaker 3: as he does.
Speaker 2: He cheats.
Speaker 3: On that case, I'll keep my money and we'll just
Speaker 3: have another game.
Speaker 4: You don't have any to keep. There's your wallet. You
Speaker 4: heard a dame to take it from you. Shaw has
Speaker 4: been planning to beat your game for months. He just
Speaker 4: been waiting for you to cheat him so he could
Speaker 4: clip you.
Speaker 2: Who do you think you're talking to her?
Speaker 3: And by nobody sets me up?
Speaker 2: Take them back to the baggage, will puts one easier?
Speaker 3: Please think there are four witnesses at that table and
Speaker 3: go back. Get another goddamn son of vexables. Dump them
Speaker 3: in the first tunnel. Hit doial. We're gonna be in
Speaker 3: the station in a couple of minutes.
Speaker 4: Thinking not too good. You're killing a guy your money too.
Speaker 4: There's better ways of taking him down.
Speaker 2: There's better ways to take me down.
Speaker 1: So that was that was really effective for me because
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I had no idea what's about
Speaker 1: to happen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they haven't explained what the play by play is,
Speaker 3: and so yeah, you are along for the ride. But
Speaker 3: I love as well that they absolutely like go into
Speaker 3: his ego because they dis like they say that he
Speaker 3: his way that he's been made up is that he
Speaker 3: gets close to like the head of some kind of
Speaker 3: like a criminal organization, learns how to do his racket,
Speaker 3: and then kills him off. And that's how he's gone
Speaker 3: up and up. And then that's exactly what Hooker is.
Speaker 3: He's like, it's like, oh, I've come from the same
Speaker 3: town as you. Oh I'm kind of doing the same thing.
Speaker 3: We're very similar. And then of course they're like this
Speaker 3: man kills for Pride and he's like, I see myself
Speaker 3: and you.
Speaker 1: Did you feel the like as it went along? Did
Speaker 1: you feel the danger? Like like I said earlier, I
Speaker 1: didn't necessarily feel like the newman and Red for we're
Speaker 1: going to betray each other, But I did. Yeah, En,
Speaker 1: I feel like the stakes were high enough, like that
Speaker 1: Robert Shaw gave enough menace to believe that these two
Speaker 1: were potentially in danger.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he did. I think when I was
Speaker 3: watching it, because the like, the big con is that he,
Speaker 3: Robert Shaw puts down like half a million dollars to
Speaker 3: bet and we'll lose it. But his house and everything,
Speaker 3: it looks so rich. And then I remembered, oh, that's
Speaker 3: half a million dollars in the twenties. Yeah, And then
Speaker 3: as soon as I look that up, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: oh my goodness, oh.
Speaker 2: Dear, how much was it you? Like, do you have anything?
Speaker 1: I can't remember, but I must say I that thought
Speaker 1: occurred to me. It's like when he asked for you know,
Speaker 1: another half a million dollars whatever it was, was like shit, like.
Speaker 2: This is yeah, this is massive.
Speaker 3: This is because I think that I looked at eleven
Speaker 3: eleven thousand dollars was one hundred and seventy four k.
Speaker 1: Well, I know that Paul Newman and Robert Reffick both
Speaker 1: got paid five hundred thousand each for making this film,
Speaker 1: which was three million dollars you know, in today's money.
Speaker 1: So if you then go back to the twenties or thirties.
Speaker 1: Yet staggering it is. It is high stakes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean even when he was at the day
Speaker 3: in it he got meat, love, a coffee, and an
Speaker 3: apple pie for I think it was she said eighty
Speaker 3: five and like, was it eighty five cents? With that
Speaker 3: eight dollars?
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 1: I looked at the prices on the wall at one point,
Speaker 1: Oh went, wow, you can get you can get maybe
Speaker 1: not hot chocolate, but you know, for it's fifty thirty cents,
Speaker 1: it's amazing, and that a little Speaking of the diner,
Speaker 1: I mean, I've got to mention this earlier when we're
Speaker 1: speaking about it. The same diner that they meet Hi
Speaker 1: at one point is the diner that Doc meets Marty
Speaker 1: McFly in Back to the Future.
Speaker 3: Was it like an operational diner? Like was it?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: I think it's funny people say that and then you
Speaker 1: look at it you gonna go. But surely it's almost
Speaker 1: like completely reconstructed. And what part of it is still
Speaker 1: really the diner? Is it just the actual bench itself?
Speaker 1: But I would have I would have thought that from
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy three. I guess it's only from the sting
Speaker 1: to Back to the Future. It's probably what twelve years.
Speaker 3: They probably just put up a couple of posters and
Speaker 3: they were just like, all right now it's Back to
Speaker 3: the Future film.
Speaker 1: The we're heading towards the end. They do a really
Speaker 1: good job when we're in that world of the Cassine.
Speaker 1: It's not really casino, is it. But it's a.
Speaker 3: Fake, a fake underground Cassino.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's call it that.
Speaker 1: And I love the scene where he doesn't quite get
Speaker 1: the bet on in time because they kind of, you know,
Speaker 1: they can't afford to lose that money. But it's just
Speaker 1: smart because they want to not risk the money. They
Speaker 1: haven't got the money to pay that out, but they
Speaker 1: need to convince him that he would have been right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I think that's a really that was I think
Speaker 1: a really smart move. And this to see again to
Speaker 1: keep going back to it. But Newman and Redford in Taxedos,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's your box office right there.
Speaker 3: I forgot about the montage, the like twenties style montage
Speaker 3: where they glow up Robert Redford, yes, his part, but
Speaker 3: they only play the same Din Din dinner did. That's
Speaker 3: the only music that plays in the entire film. It's
Speaker 3: just that one like carousel song. And so during the montage,
Speaker 3: it's like a it's like a nineteen twenty but kind
Speaker 3: of that, like walking out in like a new tuxedo,
Speaker 3: turning around being like maybe this one, and then like
Speaker 3: a wipe to him getting a manicure, going what is
Speaker 3: this thing? Someone like tailoring his pants, like get off me.
Speaker 3: And then at the end, all they've done is like
Speaker 3: combed back his hair and they're like pretty good.
Speaker 1: Robin red It's like, wow, how did you make this
Speaker 1: guy look like that?
Speaker 3: Before he looked like he looked disgusting and now he's
Speaker 3: a glowing prince And just like either way he'd be fine.
Speaker 3: Just get him out there.
Speaker 2: It's Robert red Foot, Robin Redford. It's amazing.
Speaker 1: So when when everything goes down, the shooting happens, and
Speaker 1: is there any part of you that thought, oh, they've
Speaker 1: turned on each other and now they're one of the
Speaker 1: one's being killed or you were a long.
Speaker 3: No, one hundred percent. I was like as soon as
Speaker 3: they like that like fake FBI busted in at the
Speaker 3: end and they were like arresting him, I was like,
Speaker 3: oh god, and then and then he gets shot. I
Speaker 3: was like, yeah, shoot him, shoot the rat, get him,
Speaker 3: you dog. And then I can't remember. It was when
Speaker 3: they were just rushing out, is it er, mister evil rubbishaw?
Speaker 2: Sorry?
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. I think it was at that point where
Speaker 3: they're like everyone get out, everyone get out, and then
Speaker 3: they've just rushed him out and there's a scene of them.
Speaker 3: He's like, my man is in there, and then I
Speaker 3: realized no one else was leaving. I think that's when
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, thank god, Oh it's a part
Speaker 3: of it because I saw when he was getting ready
Speaker 3: he put something in his mouth and I was like okay,
Speaker 3: and then I was like it's a blood campsule.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, I I yeah, I had a moment
Speaker 1: where I did question I go, oh maybe, which is
Speaker 1: like it's it's good filmmaking because I kind of, you know,
Speaker 1: it's a sting in that, like like I wasn't convinced
Speaker 1: that these two were going to betray each other.
Speaker 2: He shot, you know, he gets shot, but.
Speaker 3: He's got shot in the leg, and then they rolled
Speaker 3: him over and he was dead and I was like, okay,
Speaker 3: keep shutting.
Speaker 2: The leg and he got blood in the man.
Speaker 1: You're right, actually, but for a second and then and
Speaker 1: then that was pretty quick going no, I think this
Speaker 1: is this is all part of it, and he gets
Speaker 1: ushed out, you're right. And final note was when Johnny
Speaker 1: Hooker decides not to take the money.
Speaker 3: I got a thought of yep, yep.
Speaker 2: Now you should be your thoughts. Okay.
Speaker 3: So at the end, two man guys who have done
Speaker 3: this whole thing for for Luther, their friend who was
Speaker 3: shut down, and then they both go, you're not going
Speaker 3: to stay for your cut, all right, let's get out
Speaker 3: of here. I'm like, give the money to the family, exactly,
Speaker 3: give the money to the I was laughing so hard
Speaker 3: as the credits when I was like, is anyone are
Speaker 3: they going to give the money?
Speaker 1: Because it's such a simple idea that would have like
Speaker 1: just like be more believable, Like really, Johnny Hooker like
Speaker 1: you're not. You're not thinking at all about what you
Speaker 1: could do with the money for you or somebody else,
Speaker 1: Like the perfect idea I had was. So he goes
Speaker 1: to leave, and maybe Paul Newman says to him, yeah,
Speaker 1: let's go, yeah, get a buzz on, le let's go
Speaker 1: get a drink, and he's like, I might drink with
Speaker 1: myself tonight or you know, like and he's got his
Speaker 1: money and he goes off and he's like, oh yeah
Speaker 1: he's a party boy or he's young, get laid or something.
Speaker 1: And then you see him drop the money off. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Luthor family.
Speaker 3: It could have been one line being like, you're not
Speaker 3: going to stay for your share? No, I think I'll
Speaker 3: give it to Luther's family. Let's get out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it really had to be like I mean, I
Speaker 1: would loved doing like not not announce it like this
Speaker 1: kind of go like you.
Speaker 2: At the camera now you think.
Speaker 3: Fingers the moral of the story.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like you know, even a knock on the
Speaker 1: door and you know, you see him leave and maybe
Speaker 1: you don't even know it's him, and the door opens
Speaker 1: as Luther's wife and she is a package there and.
Speaker 3: In a little baby basket full of money, pulling back
Speaker 3: it's cradling it like it's a baby. You have a
Speaker 3: new family. Now.
Speaker 1: Honestly, they went to a lot of efforts, went to
Speaker 1: so much effort, and I don't think I've really seen
Speaker 1: the growth, you know, the journey of Johnny Hooker to
Speaker 1: kind of really think he'd gone from And I understand
Speaker 1: the idea that it was about avenging Luther's death, and
Speaker 1: I'm completely on board for that, but at least where
Speaker 1: does the money go? Like is it just get evenly
Speaker 1: spread amongst everybody else who like just do something better
Speaker 1: with it?
Speaker 3: Yeah, And they're just like it's all of them just
Speaker 3: like packing down the entire thing really quickly, Like as
Speaker 3: soon as everyone's gone, they're like, all right, pack it up.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, what's the admin process now? Like it's
Speaker 3: like if you're an extra, come forward, you get your amount, and.
Speaker 1: We're having a sale on these things really cheaply if
Speaker 1: you want to buy yourself.
Speaker 3: If anyone wants to take.
Speaker 2: Anything, there's bottles here, please.
Speaker 3: Guys, we can't take it.
Speaker 2: We're nice.
Speaker 3: Take it was the quickest bump out and then just
Speaker 3: they just had what's gonna happen in the money? Also?
Speaker 3: I mean is that I feel like that man is
Speaker 3: a very vengeful man. I think he's going to try
Speaker 3: to find his money.
Speaker 2: Well, that's the other thing. He's still alive.
Speaker 1: Like I would have had the knock on the door,
Speaker 1: loser's family opens it, the money is there, or somebody
Speaker 1: passes it to her. That's not Johnny Hook, but we
Speaker 1: know where it's come from. And then Johnny is seeing
Speaker 1: a final shot of Johnny Hooker is sitting on a
Speaker 1: train maybe with Henry.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, journeying.
Speaker 1: Off, you know, feeling good about the choice that he made.
Speaker 2: That's for me, he is a better ending. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry Julor roy Hill and David s Ward who
Speaker 1: wrote the script, but.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I'm with you. I was laughing pretty hard
Speaker 3: at the credits. I was like, you missed a bit.
Speaker 3: Excuse me, did you run out of time?
Speaker 1: Because even he says, well, I will just blow it anyway,
Speaker 1: the idea because you know, when he made some money
Speaker 1: earlier on in the film, we see you can go
Speaker 1: to the roulette table and it's all corrupted, but he
Speaker 1: lost the money straight away.
Speaker 2: Basically.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we understand that he likes to take chances
Speaker 1: and all that. So I guess there's a bit of
Speaker 1: growth in the character with that.
Speaker 3: But just you don't have to throw the baby out
Speaker 3: with the bathroom exactly.
Speaker 1: Remember why you're doing is for Luthor and Luther's family
Speaker 1: and that probably don't have the support that Luthor provided them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's out grifting again. Wife is out grifting again.
Speaker 3: Going if only there was a baby basket full of
Speaker 3: money that I could have.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and Johnny Hook hasn't even dropped by recently,
Speaker 1: you know, his own projects. There were a couple of
Speaker 1: my issues with the thing, but I really enjoyed. It
Speaker 1: was good to see a film that was just just
Speaker 1: being entertaining.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was really entertaining, I thought it. Yeah it was.
Speaker 3: I think it was so built in that nineteen twenties
Speaker 3: world that when you said that The Exorcist came out
Speaker 3: the same week, I was like, but that's not possible.
Speaker 2: It's nuts.
Speaker 3: This was made in the twenties when they didn't have
Speaker 3: audio for movies yet. Yeah, it's yeah, I really it
Speaker 3: was so fun.
Speaker 2: It was so fun.
Speaker 1: And even the bits where I didn't like, even with
Speaker 1: the assassin Laretta, like when she got shot in the head,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, like wow, what the hell? And
Speaker 1: then I didn't think hang on, Like even when they
Speaker 1: turned their body out, there was no point where you
Speaker 1: could see that she was reaching for her gun. I think, right,
Speaker 1: maybe that like a frame of her right arm going
Speaker 1: to her handbag, like for a frame. Yeah, as she
Speaker 1: gets shot, basically as almost as you hear the gun shot,
Speaker 1: and then they turn her over and the gun is
Speaker 1: clearly in her hand.
Speaker 2: It's like, what we didn't see?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. I feel like they did the first
Speaker 3: cut and were like, we could add it on. We
Speaker 3: could add in another ten minutes. Let's add in another
Speaker 3: ten minutes. Let's that come on, let's go, let's do it.
Speaker 1: Because it's it's a it's a great idea to have
Speaker 1: the fem fertile the lady assassin, but just make her
Speaker 1: work for it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I did. I did shout and point when it
Speaker 3: was like that was the assassin. I was like, a twist, twist,
Speaker 3: a lady assassin. We can do anything.
Speaker 2: Low at us, go.
Speaker 3: Take that man? Where can I tell you?
Speaker 1: This is years before Andrew and the Jolley and her
Speaker 1: movie sald whatever what was called. Yeah, I did the
Speaker 1: original script a few movie facts before we wrapped things up.
Speaker 1: The original script was a lot darker. It was involving
Speaker 1: I think a fixed boxing match and the brother dying
Speaker 1: and kind of avenging his brother's death and the whole thing.
Speaker 1: We had a much dark undertone, and George roy Hill,
Speaker 1: who preferred to keep things a bit lighter, decided that
Speaker 1: he wanted to make this like a homage to nineteen twenties,
Speaker 1: nine and thirties Hollywood. And and I think he made
Speaker 1: a good choice by doing that. Oh, by the way,
Speaker 1: who who killed Selena?
Speaker 2: You know that when he goes down to the alleyway
Speaker 2: his guardian age and.
Speaker 1: He's trapped and then you go and then somebody it's
Speaker 1: for Selena or he was Seleno. I just had a
Speaker 1: note who killed Seleno? And it kind of the camera
Speaker 1: pans down to a manhole suggesting that's where Johnny Hooker is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it wasn't Johnny Hooker who killed him? Was that
Speaker 1: black glove?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: Okay? So Selena was the Dinah lady. That was the
Speaker 3: name of the assassinka. And that was like the reveal.
Speaker 3: But the guy with the glove, we're meant to think
Speaker 3: that that is Seleno the assassin. It's actually not. That's
Speaker 3: someone that Henry has sent to look.
Speaker 2: Out look for Johnny, for Johnny Hooker.
Speaker 3: So then you see the glove and the gun and
Speaker 3: you're like, he's about to shoo Johnny Hooker and then
Speaker 3: he shoots Selena.
Speaker 1: So Selena was the guy in the alleyway chasing Johnny Hooker?
Speaker 2: Was that right?
Speaker 3: No, that was just our Guyleno killed.
Speaker 2: Yes, so who killed? Who killed? That guy in the alleyway?
Speaker 3: Selena the Dinah lady.
Speaker 1: But I thought there was a male voice. Was a
Speaker 1: male voice maybe coming from the guy in the alleyway?
Speaker 3: Yeah, because he was like Selena, no.
Speaker 2: Y yes, okay okay.
Speaker 3: But again, it did feel like you're watching a separate
Speaker 3: movie for those bits. It did feel like they kind
Speaker 3: of took footage from another movie and just went and
Speaker 3: also there's this there's also this bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Also there's this side bit, the side quest.
Speaker 1: It was Yeah, I like, like often if I come
Speaker 1: with this many criticisms, it's I didn't enjoy the film
Speaker 1: as much. But I really I really did, and it
Speaker 1: really seems up to a second watch, I think, you know,
Speaker 1: you can't see all the.
Speaker 2: The little bits.
Speaker 1: Julia Phillips was a producer and became the first female
Speaker 1: producer to win an Oscar. Yes, so salute to Julia
Speaker 1: Phillips accepted the Oscar off.
Speaker 2: Elizabeth Taylor, Oh Love Liz.
Speaker 1: Liza handed that one to Julia and then sadly, though
Speaker 1: Julie may have broken the glass ceiling but didn't completely
Speaker 1: shatter it, because the next female producer to win.
Speaker 2: I think was driving Miss Daisy, which.
Speaker 3: Is like, oh my goodness, let's.
Speaker 2: Say late eighties, maybe even ninety.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. You don't want to go too hot,
Speaker 3: too quick, Hollywood into everyone.
Speaker 2: Everyone.
Speaker 3: Let's okay, let's just just calm down. You had to go,
Speaker 3: you had to go. Now, it's let's let the spell as.
Speaker 2: A guy, get the men back in the room.
Speaker 3: We don't want them to get upset. You did such
Speaker 3: a good job at sharing boys.
Speaker 2: Good job, I know. It's I was like, oh, that's cool,
Speaker 2: and then it's odd.
Speaker 3: The next one was okay, well, nearly.
Speaker 1: Paul Newman was advised not to do the film because
Speaker 1: he was suggested that you shouldn't do comedy because he
Speaker 1: doesn't have a light touch.
Speaker 2: I would completely disagree with that.
Speaker 3: They disagree.
Speaker 2: You feel like cool hand.
Speaker 1: Look, I feel like he brings a lightness to that
Speaker 1: character and you know, the hustler and there's Yeah, I
Speaker 1: feel like Paul Newman does have that in spades.
Speaker 3: He's so cheeky, he's such a he literally has a.
Speaker 2: Glint in his eye, yeah he does.
Speaker 1: And he's a bit of a practical joke like George
Speaker 1: Clooney plays, you know, he's famous playing these practical jokes,
Speaker 1: and I think he basically is carrying on a tradition
Speaker 1: of Robert Redford and Paul Newman.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's literally he's I would probably describe it as
Speaker 3: a cheeky rag a muffin.
Speaker 2: Which I might take that as my next year's comedy
Speaker 2: festival title.
Speaker 3: Yeah, go for it, and then you can have the
Speaker 3: little the little blush on your cheeks too, like a
Speaker 3: little cherub Robert shawstyle. It's me.
Speaker 1: There's a horse god Wilder in the The Calling of
Speaker 1: the Horse. Most of them were A lot of them
Speaker 1: were actual horses around that time, but there was a
Speaker 1: few that weren't, and Wilder was one. Potentially, this hasn't
Speaker 1: been confirmed. It potentially it's because Billy Wilder, the famous
Speaker 1: writer director, hated horse racing, so it might have been
Speaker 1: a little bit joke at his expense that a horse
Speaker 1: called Wilder.
Speaker 3: Some of those horses had wild names. One of them
Speaker 3: was like Beefcake. They just had like absolutely obscene names.
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, I don't want to be.
Speaker 1: One of the fun parts of riding the screw going,
Speaker 1: what are we going to call these horses? It doesn't
Speaker 1: really matter. We've got to make some pop more than others. Perhaps, Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's call it beefcake, why not.
Speaker 3: In the running beefcake, beefcake meat chack there is.
Speaker 1: It's one of the great voices that that that era
Speaker 1: of race calling.
Speaker 2: Yeah, is such.
Speaker 1: A strong recognizable voice. Technically, the technical advisor actually did
Speaker 1: the car tricks and a lot of the shuffling when
Speaker 1: Paul Newman was doing it.
Speaker 3: And then there's like it was like it was it
Speaker 3: was his hands, his hands. Yeah, that's all I'm thinking of,
Speaker 3: is like all of the adventures, just the cut to
Speaker 3: just like completely different hands, just completely different.
Speaker 1: That is I'm gonna get it Russell Cooit in the
Speaker 1: second funnily enough, and yeah, so then his hands kind
Speaker 1: of leave the scene for a split second. There's an
Speaker 1: invisible cut, and then that pans up to see Paul Newman.
Speaker 1: It's really it's really nicely done. Robert Redford did not
Speaker 1: see this move until two thousand and four, and I
Speaker 1: can't find anywhere if he enjoyed the film or not,
Speaker 1: which is the next This is fact that Robert Reveie
Speaker 1: did not see his film to two thousand and four.
Speaker 2: Okay, but what did he think? We need to know?
Speaker 3: What did he think when he saw it? Did he
Speaker 3: think I'm the most beautiful man in the world.
Speaker 1: He may be actually scouring the you know, the podcast
Speaker 1: world or the internet to find reviews and you know,
Speaker 1: modern reviews. He could be listening to this right now.
Speaker 3: Robert, you did such a good job.
Speaker 1: I agree to Robert, and those criticism I have like
Speaker 1: the you know, take it or leave it to be honest,
Speaker 1: I'm probably wrong.
Speaker 3: You have a great run, Robert Redford, You have an
Speaker 3: incredible gait.
Speaker 2: He runs a lot, doesn't he?
Speaker 3: He runs so much?
Speaker 1: Yeah, like Tom Cruise would be yea running going on here.
Speaker 3: There's so much running. And that's why there's been a
Speaker 3: couple of things I have auditioned for that have been
Speaker 3: like cops and I'm like, and I haven't gotten it,
Speaker 3: And I'm like, it's probably good because I have an
Speaker 3: obscene run. I have the run of someone who's running
Speaker 3: for public transport but doesn't want to commit to the run.
Speaker 3: But that's me really trying. It's not good. So if
Speaker 3: anyone listening needs that and anything coming up, please let
Speaker 3: me know.
Speaker 2: It's funny.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think if I've ever had the run
Speaker 1: on the screen but it's one of those things you
Speaker 1: don't really think about until you have to do it,
Speaker 1: Like you don't think what look, the older you get,
Speaker 1: the less you run. Obviously, yeah, well actually run.
Speaker 2: To keep fit.
Speaker 1: So I've heard it's a thing I think the millennials
Speaker 1: are starting to do.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know unless you unless your doctor has said
Speaker 3: you've got to start running. There's no reason.
Speaker 1: I'm going to rephrase this that they will don't run.
Speaker 1: You really don't run in a panic, like you know.
Speaker 1: I never run. I've never run for public chain. There's
Speaker 1: a choice I made many years.
Speaker 3: Ago my dignity, and I've done a routine about it
Speaker 3: where there's always somebody on.
Speaker 1: The train going, look at that fat fuck running for
Speaker 1: a train, because I've been that person saying that same
Speaker 1: thing about somebody else.
Speaker 3: And everyone's like, why why are you saying?
Speaker 2: Why loud?
Speaker 1: But I when you have to do it and be
Speaker 1: film doing it, you kind of think how do I
Speaker 1: How do I run? I just run as I do?
Speaker 1: But is it a character choice? How would the character
Speaker 1: run or I'm just gonna run as I would run?
Speaker 3: I would absolutely overthink it. I think my body would
Speaker 3: collapse to the floor. Yeah, there'd be too many things
Speaker 3: going on in my brain because I would think about
Speaker 3: the hank. Do you do you do cruse hands where
Speaker 3: they're just like like tiny sharp dinner plates next to you,
Speaker 3: or do you do that because the sprint, yes, where
Speaker 3: he uses his arms.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he really goes for it.
Speaker 1: But I I think I'm sure I've run into scenes
Speaker 1: almost like into a room where it's like it's not
Speaker 1: really a full on sprint, it's just like the.
Speaker 3: Like the cramer. Yes, you've done a Cramer.
Speaker 2: I've done a Cramer. How to Stay Married?
Speaker 1: I always try to enter through a door at pace
Speaker 1: and pete this it seems a derivative.
Speaker 3: We're gonna cut around this. No, no, no, no, this is
Speaker 3: the one.
Speaker 1: This is definitely the one. These are all fun facts.
Speaker 1: By the way, I did look up like other highest films,
Speaker 1: one of the most famous highst films, and there was
Speaker 1: a list that I saw and this was at number fourteen,
Speaker 1: top highest film. Some of the films that came after
Speaker 1: it were The Italian Job, which is great. We've covered
Speaker 1: that on this podcast. The Ocean Films, Heat Inception.
Speaker 2: I Hate Reservoir.
Speaker 1: Dogs, Bonnie and Clyde the Usual Suspects amazing. We've covered
Speaker 1: that film as well. American Animals Is for those who
Speaker 1: haven't seen, is a great heighst film that was about
Speaker 1: ten years ago, like.
Speaker 2: Independent film about an artist. It was great.
Speaker 1: Some of the films in front of it, so below
Speaker 1: fourteen we're dog Day Afternoon. Great film, A fish called Wonder.
Speaker 3: I forgot about a fish Court.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we covered that with Xenro on this and the
Speaker 1: movie that I actually watched a little bit of the.
Speaker 2: Other night and I love it. One of David A.
Speaker 2: Russell's early films, Three Kings.
Speaker 3: I haven't seen.
Speaker 2: It's a great film directed by David A. Russell.
Speaker 1: Spike Jones is in it, who then goes on and directs,
Speaker 1: you know, being John Malkovich and adaptation and George Clooney,
Speaker 1: Ice Cube and Matt Wooburg and it's about it. It's
Speaker 1: one of the first films that I saw, kind of
Speaker 1: set in the Iraq War, you know, and it's about
Speaker 1: three soldiers, four actor soldiers, who decide to steal Saddam
Speaker 1: Hussein's gold in the final days of the Iraq War.
Speaker 1: It's a great film. It's it's really cool.
Speaker 2: Other movies.
Speaker 1: Another great film that may have You may have missed
Speaker 1: Hell or High Water from about five years ago, a
Speaker 1: great film as well. The Number and and and other
Speaker 1: films I hadn't heard of, the Ashfelt Jungle, Friends.
Speaker 2: Of Eddie Coyle, The Lady Killers.
Speaker 1: Which there come Brothers three made a while ago, and
Speaker 1: the Lavender Hill Mob. There's some films I had, the
Speaker 1: older films that I haven't heard much about.
Speaker 2: The Number one was.
Speaker 1: A film we have it on this podcast with Josh Earl,
Speaker 1: The Taking of Palham one two three, which was remade
Speaker 1: with Denzel Washington in I reckon the Nineties.
Speaker 2: But that's a train heist film. That's a good one.
Speaker 2: That's good. It's Gene Hackman.
Speaker 3: Oh that's all. I love Gene the hack.
Speaker 2: Man, The hack Man, the hack Man.
Speaker 1: I love Geene Hackman so much that I deliberately avoid
Speaker 1: hearing about what he's like because I heard. I heard,
Speaker 1: I think through making some Wes Anderson films, The Royal
Speaker 1: Tann and Arms, and he wasn't necessarily great to work with. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I'm just like, oh, well, I'm sure he was
Speaker 1: just you know, you know, having a moment, but you
Speaker 1: know it's.
Speaker 3: Not Yeah, you don't want to meet your heroes.
Speaker 1: You gotta be very careful speaking of meeting your heroes.
Speaker 1: I saw thank God you're here, the congratulations you stormed
Speaker 1: it again and the look on your face and how
Speaker 1: you handled it.
Speaker 2: It made me laugh out loud.
Speaker 1: Russell Coit appears you're in like a hospital and they
Speaker 1: pull back a curtain. There's another patient you need to see,
Speaker 1: and it's Glenn Robins, the Great Glenn Robins as Russell
Speaker 1: Koy And what was I mean? You don't expect celebrity
Speaker 1: cameos in thank You'd never know what's about to happen
Speaker 1: on that show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're pushing it more and more and more.
Speaker 1: I've been honored to I was I did it in
Speaker 1: its first incarnation, and I was a judge last year
Speaker 1: and I'm judging again this year in an episode it's
Speaker 1: such a thrill and in honor to be involved. And
Speaker 1: then Jes pushing it more and more and the Haveitlenn.
Speaker 3: Was so oh my god, I literally got dizzy, like
Speaker 3: I like I I didn't say this, but because the
Speaker 3: when I was Heidi, who's one of the incredible like
Speaker 3: actors as part of the Thank God the Troupe was
Speaker 3: lying in the bed and I turned around and I
Speaker 3: saw this little feet dangling behind the curtain, and just
Speaker 3: very quickly I went out, there's a guy there. But
Speaker 3: I didn't think anything of it because there's so much happening.
Speaker 3: And then they pull the curtain back and I see
Speaker 3: Russell Coy and I screamed, and I start dancing like
Speaker 3: a toddler because my body is too overwhelmed. But I
Speaker 3: looked at him and it was one of those outer
Speaker 3: body experiences where I just got dizzy. I didn't hear
Speaker 3: anything because I just went that's Glennom.
Speaker 2: Going wrong.
Speaker 3: I my mom and my brother and I used to
Speaker 3: watch all those The Adventures all the time, like Kath
Speaker 3: and Kim absolutely like stands loved it. And then I
Speaker 3: just watched it and I was just like ah. And
Speaker 3: then but this was the thing, because I was like,
Speaker 3: that was amazing. And then going backstage and he's just
Speaker 3: sitting there, hey going Frankie, and I was like, oh no,
Speaker 3: I wasn't ready for this speed. I thought, you just
Speaker 3: like dissolve no. And then I had to have a
Speaker 3: conversation where God, I hope I was normal. I hope
Speaker 3: I probably wasn't.
Speaker 1: I think Glenn's probably used to it a little bit
Speaker 1: like but I'm sure you were. I'm sure you were.
Speaker 1: And Glenny's so lovely and here's one of my absolutely
Speaker 1: heroes and I go back him further with him, I'm
Speaker 1: a comedy company and yeah and all that. So I
Speaker 1: it's always a joy to be in his presence for me,
Speaker 1: as all the working Dog people as well, you know,
Speaker 1: Rob and Santo and Tom and all of them, Jane
Speaker 1: and it's incredible. But he Yeah, he's this amazing career
Speaker 1: where he means something different to almost each ten years
Speaker 1: he's had something like comedy company, then Kathin Kim and
Speaker 1: then Russell Koit like, yeah, very few people have that,
Speaker 1: you know that many cracks like creating something that is
Speaker 1: long lasting and has legacy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think like the amount of people who
Speaker 3: are like friends of mine who messaged me and were
Speaker 3: just like what the hell, I'm like, yeah, he's got
Speaker 3: such a hold on just like the entire Australian comedy
Speaker 3: world of just everyone freaking out because he's just he's
Speaker 3: done so much and he's so funny. And then we
Speaker 3: were like chatting about just what like the Melbourne comedy
Speaker 3: scene was like in terms of it was it used
Speaker 3: to be. He said that he was doing it was
Speaker 3: very much cabaret and like you'd have a lot of
Speaker 3: characters you've had, like, yeah, like full variety rather than
Speaker 3: it just being stand up. Yeah, and I feel like
Speaker 3: that's happening a little bit more now, which is so cool.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it was just wild and just straight away
Speaker 3: just like had to call mom and be like, Mom,
Speaker 3: don't don't say anything. You can't do the thing where
Speaker 3: you say that and then you tell everyone, and yeah,
Speaker 3: she freaked out. She was like, oh my god, what
Speaker 3: do you mean, what's you like?
Speaker 1: Well, you tended to like maybe go over and watch
Speaker 1: it with her and let's see her reaction it happened,
Speaker 1: or you're probably too excited to you just needed to.
Speaker 3: She's in camera and I'm in Melbow, so we couldn't.
Speaker 3: But she messaged me straight away, but just one of
Speaker 3: those mom messages going I thought you were very good
Speaker 3: and look at Russell and I was like, oh, thank you.
Speaker 1: But you had it so because you were like you
Speaker 1: still had one hand and one foot in the scene
Speaker 1: and one foot in the this is I'm having a
Speaker 1: moment as a as a comedian, here as a moment,
Speaker 1: and it was. It was actually a joy to watch
Speaker 1: you straddle that moment and you can see the adrenaline
Speaker 1: that was going through on the surprise and the shock
Speaker 1: it was. If you haven't seen it beyond ten play,
Speaker 1: I'm sure check it out. But mate, this this comes
Speaker 1: with homework, this this podcast. You have done it to
Speaker 1: a very high degree. Thank you so much for spending
Speaker 1: time both watching the movie and with me. You are
Speaker 1: absolutely killing it. We've gigged together quite a few times
Speaker 1: and you're always a joy to watch. And hopefully there's
Speaker 1: many more gigs we get to do.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me the gift of
Speaker 3: being able to watch a movie I hadn't seen. That
Speaker 3: was just a highlight. I was so excited. This has
Speaker 3: been so nice. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: Your frank.
Speaker 1: Yes so good. I just wanted to hear it again
Speaker 1: and again. So simple, but I enjoyed that very much,
Speaker 1: both a score and chatting to Frankie McNair. So glad
Speaker 1: Frankie enjoyed the movie. Like I said, because Frankie plays
Speaker 1: his Tabitha Booth character, I thought she may have a
Speaker 1: love or a penchant for old Hollywood, and I think
Speaker 1: I was right. I think I was right. Frankie is amazing.
Speaker 1: Whenever you see Frankie's name on a bill, get there,
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