WEBVTT - Frankie McNair and The Sting

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you day, Peter Helly here, welcome to you ain't

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<v Speaker 1>seen nothing yet in the Movie Podcast, where our chat

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<v Speaker 1>to a movie lover about a classic or loved the

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<v Speaker 1>movie they haven't quite got around to watching until now.

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<v Speaker 1>In today's guest comedian Frankie McNair, all below, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to stay here with you.

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<v Speaker 2>The jobble my hat snake sucked.

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<v Speaker 1>Why hail, it wouldn't happening right, You ain't seen nothing yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Very excited they have the wonderful Frankie there joining me

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<v Speaker 1>in the studio.

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<v Speaker 2>But you ain't seen nothing yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Frankie is an absolute delight on stage and off stage.

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<v Speaker 2>I perform with Frankie.

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<v Speaker 1>Various different gigs and the Grapes of Mirth the Comedy Republic,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's on the share of stage with Frankie. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you've seen Frankie do the thing, it's always a

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<v Speaker 1>little I'm trying to avoid the term.

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<v Speaker 2>Weird, but it's out there. It can be out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Frankie place is a great character called Tabitha Booth and

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<v Speaker 1>like an old Hollywood actress that things haven't necessarily.

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<v Speaker 2>Gone their way.

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<v Speaker 1>And Tabitha is hilarious and if you get a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to see Tabitha on stage.

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<v Speaker 2>I urge you to do so.

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<v Speaker 1>If you follow Frankie's Instagram page, you'll see Tabitha pop

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<v Speaker 1>up there as well. Frankie one Best Newcomer at the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty two Melbourne International Comedy Festival. You would have

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<v Speaker 1>also seen Frankie on the ABC's Question Everything Just for laughs.

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<v Speaker 1>You also may have seen Frankie on Only Donna's Coffee Cafe.

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<v Speaker 1>And she also, which I wasn't less be aware of it,

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<v Speaker 1>is a real student of film and has one had

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<v Speaker 1>a short film that one called Laundry was runner up

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<v Speaker 1>in the Sony Catch Night Film Festival. So I'm really

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<v Speaker 1>fascinated to delve into today's film. Frankie is smart, funny, bloody,

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<v Speaker 1>delightful and I'm stoked to be hanging with them today.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi, my name is Frankie McNair and my favorite films

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<v Speaker 3>ah Casino.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just curious. I sure you're shuffling your checks with

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<v Speaker 2>your right hand? Can you do that with both hands?

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<v Speaker 3>Eighth grade?

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<v Speaker 2>One more week of eighth grade? Right?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's crazy and nine days.

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<v Speaker 2>Spending this day and note with me, and you shall

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<v Speaker 2>possess the origin of all poems.

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<v Speaker 3>But up until recently, I had not seen this sting.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Robert Redford, possibly one of the most American looking

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<v Speaker 1>men in history, plays a grifter with possibly the most

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<v Speaker 1>American grifter name, Johnny Hooker, who unwittingly steals from Irish

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<v Speaker 1>mob boss Doyle Lonigan Robert Shaw in fine form. When

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<v Speaker 1>Lonigan seeks revenge by killing his partner in crime, Luther,

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<v Speaker 1>played by Darth Vader's dad, Robert Earl Jones, it lights

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<v Speaker 1>a fire under Hooker, vowing to hit Lonigan where it

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<v Speaker 1>hurts most. He's ample Wallet. Wanting to avenge his friend's murder,

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<v Speaker 1>Johnny Hooker reaches out to a contact of Luther's Henry Gondorf,

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<v Speaker 1>the impossibly blue eyed Paul new the master of the

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<v Speaker 1>long con. Together they dream up a masterful con. They

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<v Speaker 1>will test their nowse, their skill, their nerve, and their courage.

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<v Speaker 1>The Ultimate Sting winner of the nineteen seventy four Best

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<v Speaker 1>Picture OSCAR, including six more including Best Director for George

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<v Speaker 1>roy Hill and Best Screenplay by David s Ward. The

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<v Speaker 1>Sting is pure Hollywood entertainment, with two of the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>stars of their day having a great time. Frankie McNair,

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<v Speaker 1>have you ever fallen for an elaborate sting.

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<v Speaker 3>Not that I know of, which means that they would

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<v Speaker 3>have done a good jog. That's the greatest.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. Thank you so much for joining us on.

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<v Speaker 1>You ain't sing nothing yet. I'm excited for this because

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like you play a character I mentioned in

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<v Speaker 1>the intro at Tabitha Booth, who could almost fit in

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<v Speaker 1>this movie somewhere or this world? So when when? It

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<v Speaker 1>only occurred to me when I was watching it, Because

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes as I'm watching I'm thinking, well, they have a

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<v Speaker 1>connection a way into this film, and I feel like,

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<v Speaker 1>and without knowing too much about whether you like the

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<v Speaker 1>film or not, I feel like Tabitha may have been

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<v Speaker 1>like she does exist in this world.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she exists as someone who is about to ruin

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<v Speaker 3>the plan. She exists is someone who is about to

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<v Speaker 3>walk in and goes, what don't we do in here, fellers?

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<v Speaker 2>What's going on here?

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<v Speaker 3>Are we doing a sting?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>She is someone who is about to send everyone to

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<v Speaker 3>prison by just getting too excited to be a part

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<v Speaker 3>of it. That's her vibe.

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<v Speaker 2>How do we come?

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<v Speaker 3>So?

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<v Speaker 1>I generally I will send the list to my guests

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<v Speaker 1>with a whole bunch of films on them.

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<v Speaker 3>There's so many. I was so excited, Oh that's excellent,

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<v Speaker 3>so many films on that.

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<v Speaker 2>And you came back with great, you have.

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<v Speaker 1>There's one film that I was wrestling with, which is Magnolia,

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<v Speaker 1>which I love. Of listeners of this podcast know how

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<v Speaker 1>much I love Paul Thomas Anderson. We kind of I

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<v Speaker 1>covered it, not necessarily for this podcast directly, but with

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<v Speaker 1>doing film podcasts with Beck and Jade, and it felt

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<v Speaker 1>like we'd covered it almost as a sister show, sister

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<v Speaker 1>brother show. We'd covered it, so I was very closer

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<v Speaker 1>still doing it because I love it so much and

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<v Speaker 1>you should really watch Magnolia. Yeah, but this was this

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<v Speaker 1>was one. Did you did you kind of check out

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<v Speaker 1>the time period? Did you check out the running time?

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<v Speaker 1>How did you like? So you know about this film?

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<v Speaker 1>What did you know about it?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't know about it. I googled it and saw

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<v Speaker 3>that it had Robert Redford and Paul Newman in it,

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<v Speaker 3>and I went, yes, yes, this one. Please.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you've seen Pocashid in the Sundant Skin of All? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so this is like almost it's a brother film

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<v Speaker 1>to that companion piece. It's not a sequel, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>certainly the filmmakers wanting to pair these two together again.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it felt like there was that period of time

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<v Speaker 3>where Owen Wilson and Ben Stella were doing every movie together,

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<v Speaker 3>and it feels like they were trying to like do

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<v Speaker 3>the same thing of being like, these two have such

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<v Speaker 3>good chemistry and every movie they should be in together.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think they made the right call.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about how impossibly good looking these men are.

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<v Speaker 3>Dear God. So I watched Butchcasidy in The Sundance Kid

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<v Speaker 3>because my partner is like loves movies, like studied them,

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<v Speaker 3>like has real uni brain about movies. And I was

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<v Speaker 3>really like, I'm like, I don't know if I want

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<v Speaker 3>to watch like an old movie. And then we watched

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<v Speaker 3>Butch Castidy and The Sundance Kid and I was weeping

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<v Speaker 3>by the end, and I was just like, I'm weeping.

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<v Speaker 3>But they're so beautiful. And he told me an anecdote

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<v Speaker 3>that I haven't fact checked this, but apparently Robert Redford,

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<v Speaker 3>who is the most beautiful man in the entire world,

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<v Speaker 3>he was doing a scene and it was about like

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<v Speaker 3>rejection and he wasn't quite getting it, and they were

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<v Speaker 3>like the director came up and was like, all right, Rob,

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<v Speaker 3>it's about like you know, like you're you're feeling rejected,

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<v Speaker 3>but you understand. And he's like, yeah, I kind of

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<v Speaker 3>don't get it. And the director said okay, So like Robert,

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<v Speaker 3>like you like, have you ever been turned down by

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<v Speaker 3>a woman? And Robert Redford said what do you mean?

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<v Speaker 3>He just couldn't comprehend it, and I'm like yeah, because

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<v Speaker 3>he's so beautiful. Most of me watching this movie was

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<v Speaker 3>just me going, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, he wanted to play Benjamin Braddock in The Graduate

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<v Speaker 1>and he went to Mike Nichols and said, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>want I want to I want to do this role.

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<v Speaker 1>And Mike Nichols was like, you can't. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>guy who is he can't, like he's nervous around women

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<v Speaker 1>and he can't.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we don't even know he's possibly a virgin.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you can't do that. Look in the mirror, Robert,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's like, okay, yeah, I kind of get it.

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<v Speaker 3>There was just this scene where he was just sitting

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<v Speaker 3>in a chair and I paused it and I took

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<v Speaker 3>a photo and I sent it to my partner. It's

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<v Speaker 3>just him sitting in a chair. That he's just like

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<v Speaker 3>kind of slouched with like his arms back, and I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, anyone else tried to sit in a chair

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<v Speaker 3>like that? Then called cart what are you doing? Sit

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<v Speaker 3>up normal?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to try to sit in the chair. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>do a comparison. I'll put it on on my socials.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see maybe I can put a laugh. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>You were absolutely right.

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<v Speaker 1>After I watched Posa Cassidy, which I watched for the

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<v Speaker 1>first time for his podcast that with Bob Murphy x

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<v Speaker 1>AFL footballer and dilettante. He the next morning, I was

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<v Speaker 1>saying to my wife, you don't understand how good looking

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<v Speaker 1>these men are. And I'm googling imaging. Look look look

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<v Speaker 1>at their eyes. Even last night I was watching this

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<v Speaker 1>thing and with my wife for a bit and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, look at blue Newman's eyes are. They're impossibly blue.

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<v Speaker 1>And she's like, they're not that blue, Like human's got

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<v Speaker 1>blue eyes. I said, but not early, but later, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was getting frustrated. It was like, I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 1>it's deliberate. The filmmaker's almost like got his eyes darkened

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<v Speaker 1>and you can't quite see his eyes. And then eventually

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<v Speaker 1>you have these shots. I think when they're like they've

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<v Speaker 1>got that makeup casino that they made up. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>when you really see how blue those eyes aren't.

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<v Speaker 3>Where when he pops, when he has his like his

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<v Speaker 3>glam up. I think that Paul Newman has blue eyes

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<v Speaker 3>like a husky. Like you know how huskies have those

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<v Speaker 3>like kind of hauntingly blue eyes where you're like, those

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<v Speaker 3>are the eyes of a person, husky, What have you done?

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<v Speaker 3>You're a man trapped in that body of a husky.

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<v Speaker 3>That's Paul Newman's eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>Beautiful, they extraordinary. Will talk more about Paul Newman and

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<v Speaker 1>Robert Redford without a single doubt. Let's talk about your

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<v Speaker 1>three favorite films. I film that has come up a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of times now, and I'm embarrassed and I have

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<v Speaker 1>not seen it, particularly after I saw Bo Burnham's special

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<v Speaker 1>that he.

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<v Speaker 2>Did during Lockdown.

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<v Speaker 1>But eighth grade, I have not seen it, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>come up enough times on this podcast in people's favorites.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell us about eighth grade.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, there was a brief period of time

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<v Speaker 3>I did in my entire life, I've done a semester

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<v Speaker 3>of university and I basically the only real UNI assignment

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<v Speaker 3>that I did was like an oral presentation, and so

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<v Speaker 3>I deep dived into this movie and I love it

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<v Speaker 3>so much. It felt exactly like like you're watching it

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<v Speaker 3>and it feels like a visceral experience of I was like, oh, damn,

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<v Speaker 3>this is exactly what it feels like to be in

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<v Speaker 3>high school when you're not a teenager yet but you're

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<v Speaker 3>not a kid and you're in that weird in between

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<v Speaker 3>stage and like just all those changes are happening and

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<v Speaker 3>you just feel so social, like you're just so self

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<v Speaker 3>conscious all the time, and he does it so perfectly.

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<v Speaker 3>It is upsetting. Like when I was talking about it

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<v Speaker 3>at UNI, like a lot of especially dudes, were like, ah,

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<v Speaker 3>because there's like one particular scene where she's in a

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<v Speaker 3>car and like feeling a bit pressured to like have sex,

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<v Speaker 3>but like it ends up working out. But they were like, ah,

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<v Speaker 3>that felt a bit like they didn't need to have

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<v Speaker 3>that in there. It's a bit far fetched. And I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, are you kidding that it hits the nail

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<v Speaker 3>on the head of that thing of like it's like

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<v Speaker 3>nothing happened, but you still feel horrible, And it was

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<v Speaker 3>just Bob Burnham started developing this film because he was

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<v Speaker 3>having panic attacks on stage. She had really bad anxiety.

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<v Speaker 3>And then he had a lot of teenagers coming to

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<v Speaker 3>his shows and he was talking to them afterwards and

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<v Speaker 3>he was like, why are teenagers identifying with me talking

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<v Speaker 3>about having really bad anxiety? And then he was looking

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<v Speaker 3>at social media and he was just like, oh, you're

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<v Speaker 3>you always are in front of an audience. You always

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<v Speaker 3>have to be on And then it just kind of

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<v Speaker 3>delved into him talking about like finding out I have

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<v Speaker 3>anxiety because I'm in front of thousands of people. These

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<v Speaker 3>kids have the same feeling of constantly feeling watched and

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<v Speaker 3>like they have to perform because they are in front

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<v Speaker 3>of thousands of people. Potentially, it's such a good movie.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so fun. The way that they film it too,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, it's really heightened in some points and

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<v Speaker 3>then in some points it's like really natural.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah, it's yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm embarrassed now because I so many people say to me,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to watch this film, and I, like, I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I really liked bo Burnham's comedy special he put out

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<v Speaker 1>was that called Inside Maybe Oh yeah yeah, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was just endlessly creative and funny. But yeah, I'm gonna watch.

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<v Speaker 1>It's definitely on the list. Let's talk about Casino. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>a Scorsese film that kind of sometimes gets lost not

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<v Speaker 1>with everyone, it's still like much loved and Sharon Stone.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of my memories of it when it came out

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<v Speaker 1>was Sharon Stone kind of kind of reminding people of

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<v Speaker 1>what she can do, like in the aftermath of Basic Instant,

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<v Speaker 1>where she's probably pigeonholed and doing all those kind of thrillers.

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<v Speaker 1>Just like, ah, it was. It wasn't quite like Tarantino

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<v Speaker 1>putting Travoltar in pulp fiction, because Sharon Stone was still

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<v Speaker 1>part of the you know, the the industry very much so.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was like, ah, she can also do this,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's extraordinary.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so good.

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<v Speaker 3>I love It's gonna say, Uzie, I love it. I

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<v Speaker 3>watched this movie whenever I'm sick. I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the most gruesome, like emotionally just like violent movie,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm like, I have a cold time to watch

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<v Speaker 3>my make better movie. It's Casino. I love it. It's so intense.

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<v Speaker 3>That acting is foot like, you know, you got DeNiro,

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<v Speaker 3>you can't go wrong. You've got Deniara and Joe Joe Pesci.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Pesci is one of the finest, just one of

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<v Speaker 1>those finest actors of all time.

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<v Speaker 2>He's so good.

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<v Speaker 3>But my introduction to him was Home Alone is a

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<v Speaker 3>small child.

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<v Speaker 2>He's one of the wet bandits.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I was like, what's the web it doing here?

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like, oh, he's scarier, scarier than in Hope,

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<v Speaker 3>But I still love that he still took a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of that like mom energy into Home Alone. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 3>can just see him trying not to swear the entire

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<v Speaker 3>Home Alone movie, but like, it's just it's such a

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<v Speaker 3>good movie, and yeah, Sharon Stone absolutely kills it. It's heartbreaking,

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<v Speaker 3>it's complex, and I think it's just one of those

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<v Speaker 3>movies where like I don't know if you get this

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<v Speaker 3>or got this, but like wanting to act more and

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<v Speaker 3>just watching a movie and enjoying it, but at the

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<v Speaker 3>same time being so mad that you're not in that movie.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you ever experienced that, but you're just watching, like

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<v Speaker 3>if it's like a theater piece or comedy or like

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<v Speaker 3>a movie and you're like, this is amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so I've had reactions where I'm like, oh, this

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<v Speaker 1>inspires me and.

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<v Speaker 2>I wish I was. I wish I was, but I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>I've gotten mad that I wasn't cassed in The Godfather

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<v Speaker 1>Part two for instance.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you have that reaction.

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<v Speaker 3>But the way you have that much healthy reaction. I

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<v Speaker 3>feel inspired by this. I'm going to take this creative

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<v Speaker 3>energy and make something. I'm sitting there seating, I'm watching it,

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<v Speaker 3>going I call this show? Am I not Joe PEESHI.

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<v Speaker 1>There are times when I've seen an idea badly executed

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<v Speaker 1>and I kind of gone, I think could have done

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<v Speaker 1>a better job. Yeah, if I had a similar idea

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<v Speaker 1>or in the same ballpark, and I'm like, ah, that

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<v Speaker 1>might ruin my chances of doing this because it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and that might be more locally where it's

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<v Speaker 1>maybe realistic, or on a much bigger scale where it's like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not competing, you know, like I'm not having meetings

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<v Speaker 1>at Universal or Warner Brothers in the States.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, but it's also like this was a movie that

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<v Speaker 3>was made like I think I might have been too,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm still sitting here as like a thirty year

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<v Speaker 3>old watching it, going they should have cast me, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not. I'm not then Neero good like who am

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<v Speaker 3>I to think like I would get there. I mean

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<v Speaker 3>I can do. They're like, but that's it, that's it.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's so funny. Yeah, I just I just I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know. I just love it. It just makes me

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<v Speaker 3>be like, aren't movies right?

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<v Speaker 2>I love it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's one of those like transport movies where you're like,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm fully immersed. Like if anyone tried to talk to

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<v Speaker 3>me while I was watching Casino, I would get mad, right,

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<v Speaker 3>I'd be like, how dare you take me out of

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<v Speaker 3>my little world of blood and violence?

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen it for a lot. I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>saw it in the cinema and I've seen it since then.

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<v Speaker 1>But because I usually go back to good Fellas, good

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<v Speaker 1>Fellas would be where I go back to until about

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Pesci being absolutely petrifying and hilarious side by side.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so uncomfortable to watch become glorious at the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I should go back and watch Casino again.

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<v Speaker 1>It again has come up a few times on this podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I'm good Fellas. They're seen in the kitchen.

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<v Speaker 2>That's mon.

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<v Speaker 3>Scorcedes says his mum. Yes, yeah, and they just told

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<v Speaker 3>her improvise. Yeah, they didn't give her lines. They just

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<v Speaker 3>said they're gonna come over and they're gonna wake you

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<v Speaker 3>up in the middle of the night. Okay film and

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<v Speaker 3>straightaway she's just like me feed you, let me make

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<v Speaker 3>the sit down dinner. Come here.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so good. It's such a I love that film

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<v Speaker 2>so much. Was it Nine Days?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Should I've seen this one? Tell us about this one.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is one of those movies that I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's a really good movie. But I think also just

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<v Speaker 3>because of when I watched it, it was like a

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<v Speaker 3>bit of a switch in my brain moment. I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>I think it was we'd just come out of like

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<v Speaker 3>lockdowns and stuff, and I was a little depressobean and

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<v Speaker 3>I just went to the movies by myself and I

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<v Speaker 3>just saw this movie because it kept coming up, and

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<v Speaker 3>I was just like, Yeah, that grain looks really good.

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<v Speaker 3>I like the way that movie looks. I want to

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<v Speaker 3>go see that movie. It's got a nice score. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to take myself there. I'm really sad. And then

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<v Speaker 3>I watched it and it's basically just like a movie

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<v Speaker 3>that makes you realize all the little moments in life

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<v Speaker 3>are just so special and so important. All those little

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<v Speaker 3>mundane things are really beautiful if we take a moment

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<v Speaker 3>to appreciate them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it was clear what I need.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was like, I want to go and eat

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<v Speaker 3>an April cut fresh, like I felt like a manic

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<v Speaker 3>Pixie dream girl. After that, I walked out of seeing

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<v Speaker 3>that movie and I was like, it's gonna be okay. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and it was like it was there was like a

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<v Speaker 3>sun shower as I was like walking out and it

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<v Speaker 3>was like and I was like, oh my goodness, life

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<v Speaker 3>is beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>But it is beautiful when you find a movie that

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<v Speaker 1>hits you at the right time and everything, it just

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<v Speaker 1>reminds you that life is beautiful and there is beauty

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<v Speaker 1>around it and it doesn't have to be you said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you weren't feeling great and that just was

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<v Speaker 1>a perfect and sometimes just something a film can transport you.

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<v Speaker 1>The one that for me recently was Past Lives. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure you're past Live?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it just like it did.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't needing that film necessarily as far as anything

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<v Speaker 1>I was dealing with, but it was just like a

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<v Speaker 1>reminder of the journey of life and the friends sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>we leave behind and the you know, the futures and

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes when our history is in our presence kind of

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<v Speaker 1>collide and it's the beauty of like relationships don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to be discarded, Like you learn something from every relationship

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<v Speaker 1>you have. Yeah, and it's not necessarily something I at

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<v Speaker 1>all wrestle with. I've been married for now, happily married

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<v Speaker 1>for twenty years, but I'm always fascinated with, like, what

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<v Speaker 1>what's the point of relationships once they end? And even

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<v Speaker 1>when I think about more through the eyes of my

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<v Speaker 1>kids now, who you know, have got relationships going on

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<v Speaker 1>and they're going to be dealing with this and you

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<v Speaker 1>know there's a decent chance at some point those relationship

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<v Speaker 1>will end and how do they deal with it? And

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<v Speaker 1>what can I tell them about relationships? And I think

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<v Speaker 1>past lives did that for me a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, just whenever they kind of like going through it,

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<v Speaker 3>just sit them down and put the movie on. You're like,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't watch.

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<v Speaker 2>This, that's parently when I want is a movie? A movie?

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<v Speaker 2>It's Korean. It's very hip right now, Yeah, check it out.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I love that when you kind of like walk away.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's so strange as well, because you can have

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<v Speaker 3>a completely different experience and someone else in who's watching

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<v Speaker 3>that movie. And I'm so scared of showing people nine

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<v Speaker 3>days because I'm like, I don't know, it might they

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<v Speaker 3>might be like that was a good movie, but I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>it's actually, it's actually really important. It's actually a really

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<v Speaker 3>important film. It's actually you should probably reevaluate everything and

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<v Speaker 3>the way that you perceive the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well I had the We did an episode of

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast with Puns Drunk Love, which is one of

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite again Paul Thomas Anderson love him, Adam Sandler

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<v Speaker 1>in amazing form, like we never seen it Adam sand

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<v Speaker 1>Lace before and the amazing Emily Watson and I love

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<v Speaker 1>the film so much.

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<v Speaker 2>And we did it with my good friend Hamis McDonald.

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<v Speaker 1>And he just did not get it, and I was,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, but you know, and and it was

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<v Speaker 1>a really it's a fascinating episode. But what I love

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<v Speaker 1>aout Is podcast. What I've learned is it doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 1>if you love the film or if you don't like

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<v Speaker 1>the film. There's gonna be a conversation that happens. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I never asked before the movie, before we

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<v Speaker 1>start recording, I never asked you what your three pair

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<v Speaker 1>films are and I never asked if you enjoyed the film,

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<v Speaker 1>and not even actively trying to avoid knowing, but.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like, oh, I really wanted you.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was chatting to Georgia Tiney about it afterwards

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<v Speaker 1>and she said she made a really good point. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like that just makes it more that feel more special

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<v Speaker 1>for you because you see the beauty in that film.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like, oh, you win, like you because you

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<v Speaker 1>know you kind of you can see what he was

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<v Speaker 1>trying to do. And that's nothing against Hamish or whoever

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't like the film that you love.

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<v Speaker 2>It just means that you saw the beauty in it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it does mean that you're better than the other person. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 3>that's exactly what it means. But I feel like, but sometimes,

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<v Speaker 3>like when you show something.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, hamysh if you're listening, write it.

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<v Speaker 3>Down, I feel like sometimes when you show someone in

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<v Speaker 3>a movie, it feels really vulnerable. Like I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>when you're like a little kid and you hold up

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<v Speaker 3>your little macaroni picture and you're like, I made this

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<v Speaker 3>for you. Do you like this beautiful thing that I

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<v Speaker 3>have made? And they're like okay, Like oh I was

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<v Speaker 3>sharing a part of my soul.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a mixtape or slash playlist for younger. It's not in.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not you know, you want you want.

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<v Speaker 1>When I I was you know, I would make mixtapes

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<v Speaker 1>and I would expect them to be blown away like

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<v Speaker 1>a parties going. I'm gonna put them wait for the

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<v Speaker 1>right time and put my mixtape on and let's see

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<v Speaker 1>if we can get this party started.

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<v Speaker 2>No, the parties. Somebody's halfway through the first long somebody's

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<v Speaker 2>changed it already.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, you're like, all right, I'm gonna I'm gonna go.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait the car. I'm not wanted here. Let's see if

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<v Speaker 3>anyone notices I'm gone. Let's play that game.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna sit on the front steps for a while.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey man, how are you going? I'm okay, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>No, let's get into the movie. We are here to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>We got it, give it, give it to my peace.

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<v Speaker 4>Get you with a knife, you said, total man, you

0:22:47.760 --> 0:22:49.000
<v Speaker 4>need a doctor, I'll call it cop.

0:22:49.160 --> 0:22:50.439
<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, no cops.

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<v Speaker 4>You want a boy the law or something.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's okay. Are you nuts?

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<v Speaker 4>Carrying a water around like that?

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<v Speaker 2>And name? But like this the money you got here,

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<v Speaker 2>thanks I'm obliged to you. I gotta get a coin.

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<v Speaker 2>You ain't gonna know.

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<v Speaker 1>I got her, gotta run some slots down in West

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<v Speaker 1>Bend for a mob here.

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<v Speaker 2>I got a little behind in the paiholes. So that

0:23:13.640 --> 0:23:16.000
<v Speaker 2>figure I've been holding out on him. They came Hi

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<v Speaker 2>until four to come up with the cash. They don't

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<v Speaker 2>get it.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm dead and don't look good.

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<v Speaker 2>Grabs. It's almost four now. I'll give you and your

0:23:23.200 --> 0:23:25.000
<v Speaker 2>friend one hundred bucks to deliver it for me.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know that mugged the hitches.

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<v Speaker 2>Mad enough of me already.

0:23:31.400 --> 0:23:33.359
<v Speaker 4>Well, what if he's around a corner waiting with some friends.

0:23:33.480 --> 0:23:35.800
<v Speaker 2>You don't know you're carrying it? Come on, you gotta

0:23:35.800 --> 0:23:37.560
<v Speaker 2>help me out. Yeah, I'm sorry, bo.

0:23:37.680 --> 0:23:39.760
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna maybe help you get fixed up, get to

0:23:39.760 --> 0:23:40.120
<v Speaker 4>a doctor.

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<v Speaker 2>But I ain't about to walk in. No knife for you?

0:23:42.280 --> 0:23:43.879
<v Speaker 2>How about you? All you got to do is to

0:23:43.920 --> 0:23:45.639
<v Speaker 2>put them in the dose slot. I'll give you the

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<v Speaker 2>whole hundred.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, what makes you think you can trust him?

0:23:47.920 --> 0:23:48.520
<v Speaker 2>He didn't new shit?

0:23:48.640 --> 0:23:49.720
<v Speaker 3>Hey, butt out, chicken liver.

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<v Speaker 4>I get him back the wallet, didn't I How far

0:23:52.000 --> 0:23:52.400
<v Speaker 4>is this play?

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<v Speaker 2>Eighteen eleven Mason put in box three seats. You won't

0:23:55.720 --> 0:24:01.160
<v Speaker 2>have no trouble. There's five thousand dollars there and here's

0:24:01.200 --> 0:24:02.080
<v Speaker 2>one hundred bucks for you.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, well man, I'll make your drop for you, and

0:24:04.560 --> 0:24:05.480
<v Speaker 4>don't worry.

0:24:05.640 --> 0:24:09.280
<v Speaker 2>You can trust me. Not sure if you can.

0:24:10.800 --> 0:24:17.040
<v Speaker 1>Frankie McNair from nineteen seventy three, directed by, of course,

0:24:17.280 --> 0:24:22.040
<v Speaker 1>George roy Hill, becomes the first man first director to

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<v Speaker 1>have two films passed one million dollar box office mark

0:24:28.760 --> 0:24:30.600
<v Speaker 1>with this, after Butch Cassid in the Sun, Dance Kid,

0:24:31.600 --> 0:24:36.440
<v Speaker 1>Robert Redford, Paul Newman, Eileen Brennan, Charles Durning, Robert Shaw,

0:24:37.000 --> 0:24:38.119
<v Speaker 1>Great Cast, Robert L.

0:24:38.200 --> 0:24:41.480
<v Speaker 2>Jones. I said, that's the father of Darth Vader James L. Jones.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you enjoy nineteen seventy three's The Sting?

0:24:45.840 --> 0:24:48.840
<v Speaker 3>I loved it. I loved it.

0:24:48.840 --> 0:24:51.440
<v Speaker 2>It was so good, excellent.

0:24:51.600 --> 0:24:54.919
<v Speaker 3>It was I think when it it started with the

0:24:55.080 --> 0:24:57.840
<v Speaker 3>like opening titles and they're kind of all painted and

0:24:57.880 --> 0:24:59.720
<v Speaker 3>it does feel like that kind of like nineties, like

0:25:00.080 --> 0:25:04.639
<v Speaker 3>teen twenties, almost like like like a magazine or something. Yeah,

0:25:04.720 --> 0:25:08.119
<v Speaker 3>I was a bit like, like, is this about to

0:25:08.160 --> 0:25:10.360
<v Speaker 3>be like Roger Rabbit Hours where it's like everyone's from

0:25:10.400 --> 0:25:12.840
<v Speaker 3>the twenties and they're worrying a Fanora. But it was

0:25:13.000 --> 0:25:15.840
<v Speaker 3>so good. It felt like watching like Casino like in

0:25:15.920 --> 0:25:19.879
<v Speaker 3>terms of like it was stressful, Yeah, it was stressful,

0:25:19.880 --> 0:25:21.679
<v Speaker 3>but it was so funny as well.

0:25:22.520 --> 0:25:24.639
<v Speaker 1>When did you feel like you're in safe fans? Like

0:25:24.680 --> 0:25:26.280
<v Speaker 1>you said, you had that moment where it's like, oh

0:25:26.359 --> 0:25:29.119
<v Speaker 1>during the opening titles and oh, okay, this is But

0:25:29.200 --> 0:25:31.760
<v Speaker 1>when did you feel like, oh, no, I feel like

0:25:31.880 --> 0:25:34.800
<v Speaker 1>I always talk about feeling like you're in safe fans,

0:25:34.800 --> 0:25:36.440
<v Speaker 1>which puts cashing in to something that scared. It happened

0:25:36.440 --> 0:25:38.800
<v Speaker 1>straight away that the CPR kind of opening titles. I'm like,

0:25:38.960 --> 0:25:40.200
<v Speaker 1>I think I'm gonna love this film.

0:25:40.560 --> 0:25:42.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Do you have a moment where you kind of

0:25:42.520 --> 0:25:43.159
<v Speaker 2>felt that.

0:25:44.200 --> 0:25:50.440
<v Speaker 3>Robert Redford as soon as that man opened his mouth,

0:25:50.440 --> 0:25:52.719
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, you know what we're gonna be okay?

0:25:52.880 --> 0:25:53.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah.

0:25:53.920 --> 0:25:58.199
<v Speaker 1>And that first that first con that we we just

0:25:58.359 --> 0:26:02.520
<v Speaker 1>listened to with Luther and Johnny Hooker, we do you

0:26:02.680 --> 0:26:04.359
<v Speaker 1>know what was going on to you? Because because I

0:26:04.440 --> 0:26:08.160
<v Speaker 1>must say, it kind of beat me. I was like, yeah, okay,

0:26:08.200 --> 0:26:11.199
<v Speaker 1>this is this is, this is happening. Even though the

0:26:11.240 --> 0:26:13.240
<v Speaker 1>movie is called a sting, and I know that Robert

0:26:13.240 --> 0:26:15.640
<v Speaker 1>Redford's you know, the main one of the main characters.

0:26:16.400 --> 0:26:18.640
<v Speaker 1>So of course they're pulling off some kind of job.

0:26:19.280 --> 0:26:20.560
<v Speaker 1>But I was like, oh, this poor guy.

0:26:21.200 --> 0:26:26.560
<v Speaker 3>I it took me so long, like that scene had

0:26:26.560 --> 0:26:31.320
<v Speaker 3>well and truly finished before I realized what they did,

0:26:32.359 --> 0:26:36.120
<v Speaker 3>which is they had five They had like five thousand dollars,

0:26:36.280 --> 0:26:39.320
<v Speaker 3>and then they get they give it to the guy

0:26:39.359 --> 0:26:41.159
<v Speaker 3>and then they open his wallet and they say, no,

0:26:41.200 --> 0:26:43.080
<v Speaker 3>you're gonna put all your all your money on top

0:26:43.160 --> 0:26:46.200
<v Speaker 3>in case they search you, and so they by the

0:26:46.280 --> 0:26:48.280
<v Speaker 3>end of it they also take his money. But in

0:26:48.320 --> 0:26:49.919
<v Speaker 3>my head, I was like, did they just give that

0:26:49.960 --> 0:26:53.480
<v Speaker 3>guy five thousand dollars but then take it back off him.

0:26:53.800 --> 0:26:56.560
<v Speaker 3>I guess maybe they're doing it for the thrill, like

0:26:56.600 --> 0:26:59.600
<v Speaker 3>and I was like, no, they got like eleven thousand dollars. Yeah,

0:26:59.640 --> 0:27:01.560
<v Speaker 3>but it took me so long I honestly thought. I

0:27:01.640 --> 0:27:03.560
<v Speaker 3>was just like, it's not really a con, you're just

0:27:03.640 --> 0:27:05.600
<v Speaker 3>kind of pranking someone.

0:27:05.800 --> 0:27:09.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're playing a switcher rude. So they puts it

0:27:09.840 --> 0:27:13.000
<v Speaker 1>Danny's pants to show him this is where you put it,

0:27:13.320 --> 0:27:16.320
<v Speaker 1>and then he takes out another something wrapped in it

0:27:16.760 --> 0:27:19.800
<v Speaker 1>was some kind of sheet or something, you know, small.

0:27:19.600 --> 0:27:21.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like a hanky, like a hanky yeah.

0:27:21.320 --> 0:27:24.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And and so he's got that placed and he

0:27:24.720 --> 0:27:25.919
<v Speaker 1>gets out of there and gives it to him, but

0:27:25.920 --> 0:27:26.640
<v Speaker 1>it's all fake.

0:27:27.040 --> 0:27:28.240
<v Speaker 2>It's all paper.

0:27:28.480 --> 0:27:30.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's just paper. And the guy thinks he's just

0:27:30.359 --> 0:27:33.360
<v Speaker 3>gotten away by stealing like five thousand dollars, but he's

0:27:33.400 --> 0:27:35.960
<v Speaker 3>just given them his money. But I just I missed.

0:27:36.560 --> 0:27:38.919
<v Speaker 3>I missed the bit where he put his money in

0:27:38.960 --> 0:27:41.520
<v Speaker 3>there as well, and I was just like, what happened?

0:27:41.960 --> 0:27:42.160
<v Speaker 2>Well?

0:27:42.960 --> 0:27:45.680
<v Speaker 1>The thing about this film sometimes I will say which

0:27:45.720 --> 0:27:47.840
<v Speaker 1>and I really enjoyed it as well the first time

0:27:47.880 --> 0:27:51.760
<v Speaker 1>up for me seeing it, there are times when you're like,

0:27:52.760 --> 0:27:55.880
<v Speaker 1>do they show you enough?

0:27:56.080 --> 0:27:56.280
<v Speaker 2>You know?

0:27:56.880 --> 0:28:00.400
<v Speaker 1>You know sometimes so Ocean's eleven is a good example, yeah,

0:28:00.640 --> 0:28:05.000
<v Speaker 1>where sometimes they explain how they're going to do it

0:28:05.280 --> 0:28:07.840
<v Speaker 1>and then things while then go wrong. And this thing

0:28:07.880 --> 0:28:10.560
<v Speaker 1>doesn't follow that format. But I think it's good to

0:28:10.640 --> 0:28:13.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of see the switches made. Yeah, and I don't

0:28:13.560 --> 0:28:17.520
<v Speaker 1>think I think the sting cheats a little bit, and

0:28:17.560 --> 0:28:19.199
<v Speaker 1>I might be wrong. Feel free to let us know.

0:28:20.680 --> 0:28:24.199
<v Speaker 1>But by not showing you those slot of hands like

0:28:24.320 --> 0:28:25.120
<v Speaker 1>the card.

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<v Speaker 3>Games, yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking.

0:28:27.000 --> 0:28:31.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, when does Paul Newman's character Henry, When does he

0:28:31.280 --> 0:28:33.959
<v Speaker 1>make that switch to turn the threes into jacks.

0:28:34.359 --> 0:28:37.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's what I wanted to see too, because at

0:28:37.840 --> 0:28:41.640
<v Speaker 3>no point, because I was watching that card game and

0:28:41.640 --> 0:28:43.600
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, I want to see it's like watching a magician,

0:28:43.640 --> 0:28:44.719
<v Speaker 3>Like you're like, I want to see if I can

0:28:44.760 --> 0:28:47.120
<v Speaker 3>see when they do it. But at no point did

0:28:47.160 --> 0:28:50.600
<v Speaker 3>he do anything with his hands that would even indicate

0:28:50.640 --> 0:28:53.160
<v Speaker 3>that he had cards like hidden at like he was

0:28:53.800 --> 0:28:56.760
<v Speaker 3>lighting a cigarette and I was like, did you do it?

0:28:56.920 --> 0:28:59.440
<v Speaker 3>Then there's no possible way. Yeah, all of a sudden,

0:28:59.440 --> 0:29:02.520
<v Speaker 3>it's like the threes at jacks and you're like, okay, yeah.

0:29:03.000 --> 0:29:05.600
<v Speaker 1>So often films will do almost as a flashback to

0:29:05.720 --> 0:29:07.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of let the audience know that the audience, and

0:29:07.760 --> 0:29:09.280
<v Speaker 1>I thought that was one of the things that I

0:29:09.400 --> 0:29:12.720
<v Speaker 1>felt was missing in this. But there's still so much

0:29:13.280 --> 0:29:15.840
<v Speaker 1>to like about it. We're speaking a lot about you

0:29:16.000 --> 0:29:18.320
<v Speaker 1>and refer but let's keep talking about them because they're

0:29:18.320 --> 0:29:21.720
<v Speaker 1>obviously mates. There's a concern from the movie company the

0:29:21.760 --> 0:29:24.480
<v Speaker 1>studio that because for this the work, you kind of

0:29:24.480 --> 0:29:27.280
<v Speaker 1>feel like you do need to have a feeling that

0:29:27.360 --> 0:29:31.280
<v Speaker 1>Johnny may betray Henry and vice versa, and I'm not

0:29:31.280 --> 0:29:33.240
<v Speaker 1>sure if you felt that, but the studio were worried

0:29:33.280 --> 0:29:37.880
<v Speaker 1>that because they're famously friends, will the audience kind of think, well,

0:29:37.880 --> 0:29:39.600
<v Speaker 1>they're not going to betray each other because it's it's

0:29:39.680 --> 0:29:42.520
<v Speaker 1>their mates. Yeah, And I kind of, I must say,

0:29:42.560 --> 0:29:44.880
<v Speaker 1>I didn't necessarily feel I knew that they were trying

0:29:44.880 --> 0:29:46.360
<v Speaker 1>to get at that, and I have to agree to

0:29:46.440 --> 0:29:48.880
<v Speaker 1>the studio, not that I must say. I still enjoyed

0:29:48.880 --> 0:29:51.280
<v Speaker 1>the film, but I did kind of. I never felt

0:29:51.320 --> 0:29:52.400
<v Speaker 1>that I was going to betray each other.

0:29:52.760 --> 0:29:55.200
<v Speaker 3>I didn't think Henry would ever betray I thought that

0:29:55.240 --> 0:29:57.720
<v Speaker 3>he was just doing it for the for the for

0:29:57.760 --> 0:30:00.320
<v Speaker 3>the love of it. When Cooker kind of it's like

0:30:00.360 --> 0:30:02.239
<v Speaker 3>set up to be like, you've got to turn him in,

0:30:02.520 --> 0:30:05.240
<v Speaker 3>and then they start saying that they're going to put

0:30:05.280 --> 0:30:07.680
<v Speaker 3>Luther's wife in prison. As soon as that happened, I

0:30:07.720 --> 0:30:10.160
<v Speaker 3>was like, I reckon he would because he loved that

0:30:10.200 --> 0:30:13.160
<v Speaker 3>family at the beginning when he walked in that family,

0:30:13.560 --> 0:30:16.000
<v Speaker 3>he loved them so much and they loved him so much,

0:30:16.360 --> 0:30:19.280
<v Speaker 3>and I was just like, oh, no, he needs to

0:30:19.320 --> 0:30:21.920
<v Speaker 3>protect that family. He's got to do it. And it

0:30:21.920 --> 0:30:26.120
<v Speaker 3>broke my heart. I believed it, but I didn't believe

0:30:26.160 --> 0:30:28.680
<v Speaker 3>that these two people had just met, because I was

0:30:28.720 --> 0:30:34.000
<v Speaker 3>like that chemistry is great, they are for friends, they

0:30:34.040 --> 0:30:35.040
<v Speaker 3>are right or dies.

0:30:35.280 --> 0:30:38.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's funny the things that we wouldn't maybe forgive

0:30:38.240 --> 0:30:40.400
<v Speaker 1>if that movie came out today, There'd be so many

0:30:40.440 --> 0:30:42.960
<v Speaker 1>things I think we wouldn't forgive about it. But because

0:30:42.960 --> 0:30:45.320
<v Speaker 1>it's maybe nineteen seventy three and there's so much to

0:30:45.560 --> 0:30:48.440
<v Speaker 1>like about the film, you allow these films to take

0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:50.760
<v Speaker 1>shortcuts in a way that I don't think we allow

0:30:51.440 --> 0:30:54.600
<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty four, for better or worse. Sometimes sometimes

0:30:54.800 --> 0:30:56.560
<v Speaker 1>I wish we could just like cut to the chase.

0:30:57.280 --> 0:30:58.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, be quicker.

0:30:58.560 --> 0:31:00.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they just got like this where house and they

0:31:00.520 --> 0:31:03.640
<v Speaker 3>turned it into like a fake casino like Overnight, And

0:31:03.680 --> 0:31:05.800
<v Speaker 3>I didn't question that. And then I was thinking, I'm like,

0:31:05.840 --> 0:31:09.400
<v Speaker 3>I've done shows. You don't just have one guy that

0:31:09.480 --> 0:31:11.920
<v Speaker 3>you go to and you say, here's two thousand dollars,

0:31:12.160 --> 0:31:15.040
<v Speaker 3>give me a casino and then it happens. But I

0:31:15.200 --> 0:31:17.520
<v Speaker 3>was just like, my suspension of disbelief, let's go, let's

0:31:17.640 --> 0:31:18.200
<v Speaker 3>right this.

0:31:18.400 --> 0:31:22.160
<v Speaker 1>And this movie does rely on that suspension of disbelief,

0:31:22.200 --> 0:31:24.479
<v Speaker 1>and it's a famous trope. I'm not sure when that

0:31:24.560 --> 0:31:28.320
<v Speaker 1>trope first came up where it's like everybody working together

0:31:28.440 --> 0:31:30.480
<v Speaker 1>to build something Three Amigos. It is probably the first

0:31:30.480 --> 0:31:32.400
<v Speaker 1>time I ever saw it where it's like the whole

0:31:32.400 --> 0:31:35.800
<v Speaker 1>town gets together and so's you know, one hundred and

0:31:35.840 --> 0:31:38.959
<v Speaker 1>fifty you know amigo kind of suits, you know, and

0:31:38.960 --> 0:31:43.080
<v Speaker 1>with the sombreros and everything. And for me, the first

0:31:43.120 --> 0:31:44.959
<v Speaker 1>time I've seen that trick played, I was like, oh

0:31:45.080 --> 0:31:47.120
<v Speaker 1>my god, that is amazing. How do they think of that?

0:31:47.160 --> 0:31:49.920
<v Speaker 1>You know, impossible? Sure, but I don't care. It's a movie.

0:31:50.280 --> 0:31:52.920
<v Speaker 1>This was This was almost more possible and I think

0:31:52.920 --> 0:31:54.480
<v Speaker 1>than what the Three Amigos tried to pull off. But

0:31:54.640 --> 0:31:57.840
<v Speaker 1>it was, Yeah, it was I think, pretty joyous. Did

0:31:57.840 --> 0:31:59.920
<v Speaker 1>you did you understand this thing from go?

0:32:00.640 --> 0:32:00.920
<v Speaker 2>Did you?

0:32:01.560 --> 0:32:04.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm fascinated by murder mysteries and shows like this kind

0:32:04.960 --> 0:32:09.400
<v Speaker 1>of God Like, how important is it to understand the sting?

0:32:09.440 --> 0:32:09.920
<v Speaker 2>Do you think?

0:32:10.240 --> 0:32:12.160
<v Speaker 3>So here's the thing about me. I have a lot

0:32:12.200 --> 0:32:15.200
<v Speaker 3>to offer the world. I'm pretty dumb. I'm happy to

0:32:15.200 --> 0:32:18.960
<v Speaker 3>say I got this smooth, this brainmooth. She's smooth that

0:32:19.000 --> 0:32:24.120
<v Speaker 3>she's been buffed down, no lines, She's beautiful. But I

0:32:24.160 --> 0:32:26.600
<v Speaker 3>think I was like, as it was kind of unfolding,

0:32:26.680 --> 0:32:29.680
<v Speaker 3>I was like, all right, I understand, Like when they

0:32:29.720 --> 0:32:31.440
<v Speaker 3>were getting this like Casino, I was like, but why

0:32:31.480 --> 0:32:34.719
<v Speaker 3>would they do that? So I was very much just

0:32:34.800 --> 0:32:37.000
<v Speaker 3>like along for the ride, and so was I.

0:32:37.200 --> 0:32:40.440
<v Speaker 1>I reckon, I understood, and I watched it twice, so

0:32:40.680 --> 0:32:42.160
<v Speaker 1>I kind of maybe picked up a few more things

0:32:42.200 --> 0:32:44.000
<v Speaker 1>the second time because I was really looking out for

0:32:44.040 --> 0:32:45.960
<v Speaker 1>it the second time. But I think the first time

0:32:46.000 --> 0:32:49.040
<v Speaker 1>I understood thirty thirty percent of it, Like yeah, but

0:32:49.320 --> 0:32:51.960
<v Speaker 1>I still enjoyed it, and I think it's a sign

0:32:51.960 --> 0:32:54.920
<v Speaker 1>of good filmmaking or good chemistry that you can because

0:32:54.920 --> 0:32:56.840
<v Speaker 1>there's also a lot of character and they like more

0:32:56.880 --> 0:32:59.680
<v Speaker 1>so than the sting. I didn't quite necessarily understand the

0:33:00.520 --> 0:33:02.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of character and lot was when did he kind

0:33:02.600 --> 0:33:03.120
<v Speaker 1>of come in on?

0:33:03.480 --> 0:33:06.240
<v Speaker 3>And yeah, I think that was when there was It

0:33:06.360 --> 0:33:09.240
<v Speaker 3>was only one line that they said, we've got to

0:33:09.240 --> 0:33:12.240
<v Speaker 3>find a way to get because Hook is kind of

0:33:12.240 --> 0:33:14.760
<v Speaker 3>being because he gave someone counterfeit money. So there's like

0:33:14.840 --> 0:33:16.640
<v Speaker 3>so many moving parts in this movie as well. He

0:33:16.640 --> 0:33:18.920
<v Speaker 3>gave someone counterfeit money, so then he's got this cop

0:33:18.960 --> 0:33:21.040
<v Speaker 3>on his tail. So they said, we've got to find

0:33:21.040 --> 0:33:22.840
<v Speaker 3>a way to get him off your back. So there's

0:33:22.840 --> 0:33:25.800
<v Speaker 3>this whole side plot going on that we don't know about,

0:33:26.880 --> 0:33:30.400
<v Speaker 3>where they've set up a mini FBI headquarters, and I'm like,

0:33:30.520 --> 0:33:32.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm just trying to think of organizing all these moving parts,

0:33:32.680 --> 0:33:35.040
<v Speaker 3>and I'm like the group chats, the group chats, if

0:33:35.080 --> 0:33:38.760
<v Speaker 3>you were doing that today, and you'd have someone messaging

0:33:38.960 --> 0:33:40.840
<v Speaker 3>of like five minutes before being like, hey guys, I'm

0:33:40.880 --> 0:33:44.160
<v Speaker 3>so sorry I can't do this thing today. I'm so sorry.

0:33:44.160 --> 0:33:48.280
<v Speaker 3>I'm feeling anxious. Hey guys, I'm so sorry I can't

0:33:48.320 --> 0:33:51.560
<v Speaker 3>do this thing today. I'm really burnt out. That's me,

0:33:51.680 --> 0:33:55.240
<v Speaker 3>by the way, that's me messaging chat. I actually I

0:33:55.240 --> 0:33:59.040
<v Speaker 3>would love to maybe another time, absolutely, But yeah, there

0:33:59.040 --> 0:34:01.640
<v Speaker 3>were a lot of moving part And then I think

0:34:01.680 --> 0:34:04.080
<v Speaker 3>as well, there was they had someone like reading the

0:34:04.120 --> 0:34:05.959
<v Speaker 3>tape that was like, but I didn't understand how they

0:34:05.960 --> 0:34:07.760
<v Speaker 3>were picking the winning horses.

0:34:07.960 --> 0:34:08.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:34:08.239 --> 0:34:10.200
<v Speaker 1>So so this is the bit that I kind of

0:34:10.440 --> 0:34:13.479
<v Speaker 1>when the first time, I was like, what's a rough

0:34:13.520 --> 0:34:16.839
<v Speaker 1>idea what might be going on? So basically and this is,

0:34:17.120 --> 0:34:18.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, this is it works because of its time.

0:34:18.960 --> 0:34:21.400
<v Speaker 1>It wouldn't work in twenty twenty four where people are

0:34:21.400 --> 0:34:24.560
<v Speaker 1>watching horse racing live on their phones. But they were

0:34:24.600 --> 0:34:27.799
<v Speaker 1>able to get the results from the Western somebody on

0:34:27.840 --> 0:34:31.319
<v Speaker 1>the inside at Western Union, the phone company who gave

0:34:31.360 --> 0:34:35.800
<v Speaker 1>them the results you know, a few I suspect minutes

0:34:35.840 --> 0:34:38.520
<v Speaker 1>before it then went out, so they were able to

0:34:38.520 --> 0:34:42.319
<v Speaker 1>do a fake radio call of the of the of

0:34:42.360 --> 0:34:44.680
<v Speaker 1>the race. They had the results, you know, so they

0:34:44.680 --> 0:34:47.319
<v Speaker 1>were able to know, put your bed on this, it's

0:34:47.320 --> 0:34:48.000
<v Speaker 1>about to start.

0:34:48.280 --> 0:34:52.000
<v Speaker 2>Bang, you win. So yeah, that's that's why they go in.

0:34:52.440 --> 0:34:53.839
<v Speaker 1>One of my favorite scenes, I think is when they

0:34:53.880 --> 0:34:56.040
<v Speaker 1>go into the Western Union off because he wants to

0:34:56.200 --> 0:34:57.520
<v Speaker 1>that meetings so good.

0:34:57.800 --> 0:34:59.680
<v Speaker 2>It's it's so much fun.

0:34:59.800 --> 0:35:02.680
<v Speaker 1>They go in with the you know, anytime when people

0:35:02.680 --> 0:35:04.200
<v Speaker 1>are just as painters and then they're just goin to

0:35:04.239 --> 0:35:07.240
<v Speaker 1>take the painting suit off, It's like, yeah, it's so cool.

0:35:07.440 --> 0:35:09.719
<v Speaker 3>I think that was the thing about because like, I

0:35:09.800 --> 0:35:11.920
<v Speaker 3>love any I think that wasn't one of the reasons

0:35:11.920 --> 0:35:13.840
<v Speaker 3>that I wanted to watch this movie. I love anything

0:35:13.880 --> 0:35:16.200
<v Speaker 3>that has to do with like carn artists. Yeah, and

0:35:16.640 --> 0:35:18.239
<v Speaker 3>I was thinking about it, I'm like, why do I

0:35:18.239 --> 0:35:20.799
<v Speaker 3>love that? I'm like, oh, it's just people playing and pretend. Yeah,

0:35:20.960 --> 0:35:25.960
<v Speaker 3>which is what we like to do. And so anytime

0:35:26.000 --> 0:35:29.319
<v Speaker 3>that there's like elaborate costume changes, and someone having to

0:35:29.480 --> 0:35:31.640
<v Speaker 3>like put on a funny voice or put on like

0:35:31.640 --> 0:35:33.880
<v Speaker 3>a fake mustache. I'm like, this is the movie for me.

0:35:34.520 --> 0:35:35.319
<v Speaker 3>I love to watch it.

0:35:35.400 --> 0:35:37.560
<v Speaker 1>And there's also the lingo and I thought of you,

0:35:37.560 --> 0:35:41.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, because of you know, Tabitha and the lingo,

0:35:41.160 --> 0:35:43.319
<v Speaker 1>all those you know, if you if you, but if

0:35:43.360 --> 0:35:44.960
<v Speaker 1>you're on the lamb, you know, like it's all that

0:35:45.320 --> 0:35:47.920
<v Speaker 1>stuff that's like so rich, but if you're not, it

0:35:47.960 --> 0:35:52.160
<v Speaker 1>can cause some confusion. If you are watching in twenty

0:35:52.160 --> 0:35:54.120
<v Speaker 1>twenty four and I go, what does that? I knew

0:35:54.160 --> 0:35:55.520
<v Speaker 1>what some of it meant, but there's other stuff that

0:35:55.560 --> 0:35:57.279
<v Speaker 1>you're going to go. I don't quite know what they're

0:35:57.280 --> 0:35:59.839
<v Speaker 1>talking about here. Let's ever listen to I think when

0:35:59.840 --> 0:36:02.200
<v Speaker 1>they bring in Johnny Hooker in the.

0:36:01.920 --> 0:36:04.480
<v Speaker 3>FBI, Oh, one of my favorite leads.

0:36:05.080 --> 0:36:06.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's have it. I think this is the one

0:36:07.040 --> 0:36:08.480
<v Speaker 2>special agent Polk FBI.

0:36:09.320 --> 0:36:13.000
<v Speaker 4>Have a chair. Do you want to drink or something? No,

0:36:14.000 --> 0:36:15.760
<v Speaker 4>we want to talk to you about Henry Gondoor.

0:36:16.680 --> 0:36:17.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't think I know.

0:36:18.760 --> 0:36:20.240
<v Speaker 4>I'll give yourself a couple of seconds.

0:36:20.360 --> 0:36:23.200
<v Speaker 2>You wouldn't want to lie to me. Lieutenant Snyder here.

0:36:23.040 --> 0:36:24.480
<v Speaker 4>Says you've done a lot of confidence work.

0:36:24.520 --> 0:36:25.040
<v Speaker 2>In his town.

0:36:25.120 --> 0:36:28.480
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, Lieutennis Snyder does no shit, you ain't got

0:36:28.480 --> 0:36:34.759
<v Speaker 4>nothing on me. Yeah, how about counterfeiting, We've got to

0:36:34.800 --> 0:36:36.680
<v Speaker 4>tip the Gundorf is going to run a can on the.

0:36:36.680 --> 0:36:37.600
<v Speaker 2>South side here.

0:36:38.800 --> 0:36:39.959
<v Speaker 1>All you've got to do is tell.

0:36:39.920 --> 0:36:42.640
<v Speaker 3>Us when he's going to play is trump We commit

0:36:42.719 --> 0:36:43.960
<v Speaker 3>at the sting, make the pension.

0:36:44.640 --> 0:36:44.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:36:44.920 --> 0:36:47.840
<v Speaker 1>Actually there's some language that maybe wasn't in that clip,

0:36:48.160 --> 0:36:50.279
<v Speaker 1>but that there is in that scene. This certainly they

0:36:50.280 --> 0:36:53.080
<v Speaker 1>certainly go there's one passage where they really go hard

0:36:53.080 --> 0:36:56.480
<v Speaker 1>on like there's like seven terms that are certainly out

0:36:56.480 --> 0:36:57.960
<v Speaker 1>of straight out of the nineteen thirty.

0:36:57.760 --> 0:36:59.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeh, which is just like you know, like and if

0:36:59.200 --> 0:37:00.560
<v Speaker 3>you play it like that, every thing will be just

0:37:00.680 --> 0:37:05.640
<v Speaker 3>Jack is Jack. Another character that's got one of my

0:37:05.680 --> 0:37:08.960
<v Speaker 3>favorite lines where Robert Redford stands up and points at

0:37:08.960 --> 0:37:14.759
<v Speaker 3>the FBI agent and says, you stink, mister, just real earnest,

0:37:15.560 --> 0:37:19.359
<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, let's yes, you couldn't. You couldn't play

0:37:19.400 --> 0:37:22.040
<v Speaker 3>that off today. I'm just being like, and he's going

0:37:22.120 --> 0:37:24.960
<v Speaker 3>to stand up and in a very earnest moment, insult

0:37:25.000 --> 0:37:26.960
<v Speaker 3>this man to his face. You stink, miss her.

0:37:28.040 --> 0:37:29.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm surprised. So Robert Redford.

0:37:30.160 --> 0:37:32.880
<v Speaker 1>I think it's only nomination for an Oscar for this,

0:37:33.000 --> 0:37:35.000
<v Speaker 1>and the kind of surprised me that this is the

0:37:35.040 --> 0:37:38.560
<v Speaker 1>one because and he was even during the production saying,

0:37:38.600 --> 0:37:41.400
<v Speaker 1>all I'm doing is running around, and he was a

0:37:41.400 --> 0:37:44.560
<v Speaker 1>little bit unhappy to the point where or nervous about it,

0:37:44.600 --> 0:37:46.719
<v Speaker 1>to the point where the director ended up giving him

0:37:46.719 --> 0:37:49.800
<v Speaker 1>like a Golden Road Runner statuette at the end of

0:37:49.840 --> 0:37:52.719
<v Speaker 1>production saying, you know, this is for you, thanks for

0:37:52.719 --> 0:37:55.960
<v Speaker 1>all the running you've done. But yeah, he was a

0:37:56.000 --> 0:37:59.480
<v Speaker 1>bit nervous about taking this roll on. But it's the

0:37:59.480 --> 0:38:03.600
<v Speaker 1>one that you get nominated for, which I'm a touch surprised,

0:38:04.080 --> 0:38:06.920
<v Speaker 1>as good as he is in this, but this is like,

0:38:07.080 --> 0:38:10.600
<v Speaker 1>so this gets nominated for wins the Best Actor. I

0:38:10.640 --> 0:38:13.839
<v Speaker 1>think it's sandwich between Godfather Part one and Godfather Part two.

0:38:14.920 --> 0:38:17.200
<v Speaker 1>And this is like when New Hollywood is beginning. So

0:38:17.239 --> 0:38:19.840
<v Speaker 1>he got Scorsese and Spielberg. You know, George is not

0:38:19.880 --> 0:38:22.600
<v Speaker 1>long after this, Robert Shaw goes on to starring Jaws,

0:38:23.640 --> 0:38:25.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, France for a Coppola. This, you know, this

0:38:26.080 --> 0:38:28.520
<v Speaker 1>cool kind of you know, movies are being made, and

0:38:28.560 --> 0:38:31.960
<v Speaker 1>this kind of feels like almost just a bridge between

0:38:32.200 --> 0:38:35.759
<v Speaker 1>old Hollywood. This is this is the ocean's eleven of

0:38:35.920 --> 0:38:41.440
<v Speaker 1>its day. This is pure entertainment, and I think potentially

0:38:41.480 --> 0:38:43.400
<v Speaker 1>I think it wins because it wasn't like it's a

0:38:43.480 --> 0:38:47.319
<v Speaker 1>dark time like I think the Nixon Watergate, you know,

0:38:47.480 --> 0:38:51.560
<v Speaker 1>trials that just happened, and you know he had been impeached.

0:38:51.760 --> 0:38:55.400
<v Speaker 1>Vietnam was you know, still going and getting close to

0:38:55.400 --> 0:38:58.239
<v Speaker 1>it its its end point, but still going. So I

0:38:58.280 --> 0:39:02.520
<v Speaker 1>think there's always this thinking when times are dark, we

0:39:02.560 --> 0:39:06.040
<v Speaker 1>look for like, you know, lighter yea time, and vice versa.

0:39:06.080 --> 0:39:09.160
<v Speaker 1>When things are you know, going well, then we're happy

0:39:09.160 --> 0:39:09.879
<v Speaker 1>to have more synces.

0:39:10.239 --> 0:39:13.319
<v Speaker 3>We're like, okay, we're ready to process that, bring it in,

0:39:13.920 --> 0:39:18.480
<v Speaker 3>bringing meet with.

0:39:21.960 --> 0:39:26.399
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I say, I'm surprised. In one hand, I'm

0:39:26.400 --> 0:39:29.000
<v Speaker 1>surprised at won the Oscar. But at the same time,

0:39:29.440 --> 0:39:32.920
<v Speaker 1>I think we often want popular movies to win Oscars

0:39:32.960 --> 0:39:36.400
<v Speaker 1>and not always be about the worthy. The worthy films

0:39:36.440 --> 0:39:40.760
<v Speaker 1>always winning them, but when one does, it invariably gets

0:39:41.000 --> 0:39:43.120
<v Speaker 1>a bit of pushback and really was that the best

0:39:43.120 --> 0:39:43.799
<v Speaker 1>film of that year?

0:39:43.880 --> 0:39:46.279
<v Speaker 2>So The Exorcise was released the same week.

0:39:46.840 --> 0:39:50.319
<v Speaker 1>That this film was so wild, Like you cannot get

0:39:50.360 --> 0:39:52.880
<v Speaker 1>two films trying to do two different things.

0:39:52.800 --> 0:39:54.879
<v Speaker 3>Because this maybe it's such a good job I think

0:39:54.920 --> 0:39:58.120
<v Speaker 3>of being really grounded in that like nineteen twenties as well,

0:39:58.120 --> 0:39:59.560
<v Speaker 3>Like there are a few times that I forgot that

0:39:59.600 --> 0:40:02.120
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, no, this was made in seventy four, because

0:40:03.080 --> 0:40:07.440
<v Speaker 3>it did feel like a much older movie, like even

0:40:07.480 --> 0:40:09.400
<v Speaker 3>the way that, like you know, like they had like

0:40:09.400 --> 0:40:11.319
<v Speaker 3>the whole like kind of everyone in the casino like

0:40:11.360 --> 0:40:14.120
<v Speaker 3>moving at one time, and all the extras like bustling

0:40:14.120 --> 0:40:15.560
<v Speaker 3>around and stuff. I don't know what it was about.

0:40:15.600 --> 0:40:17.360
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if they're costuming or something, but it

0:40:17.400 --> 0:40:19.879
<v Speaker 3>did feel like I'm watching a movie that was made

0:40:19.920 --> 0:40:21.520
<v Speaker 3>in like the fifties or the forties.

0:40:21.800 --> 0:40:23.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like, yeah, yeah.

0:40:24.120 --> 0:40:26.520
<v Speaker 3>The Exorcist was made the same came out the same

0:40:26.719 --> 0:40:27.200
<v Speaker 3>same week.

0:40:27.280 --> 0:40:28.880
<v Speaker 2>Imagine making that choice, you know.

0:40:29.120 --> 0:40:31.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, obviously, when you're seeing them, you don't know

0:40:31.120 --> 0:40:35.000
<v Speaker 1>that these movies going to become The Sting and The Exorcist.

0:40:35.239 --> 0:40:37.560
<v Speaker 2>But bloody hell, that is quite a choice.

0:40:37.640 --> 0:40:40.200
<v Speaker 1>I do love in that scene where we're talking about

0:40:40.200 --> 0:40:43.279
<v Speaker 1>the Western Union when they're painting that they just walk

0:40:43.320 --> 0:40:43.920
<v Speaker 1>out and leave it.

0:40:44.040 --> 0:40:47.360
<v Speaker 3>Like that made me feel so anxious.

0:40:48.160 --> 0:40:49.680
<v Speaker 1>I was a little bit like, you can at least

0:40:49.680 --> 0:40:51.600
<v Speaker 1>finish the wall couldn't you finish.

0:40:51.400 --> 0:40:54.719
<v Speaker 3>Painting the wall? This board man is just being cold,

0:40:54.840 --> 0:40:56.120
<v Speaker 3>and I think that that was the thing. I'm like,

0:40:56.160 --> 0:40:57.719
<v Speaker 3>I was rooting for them because I'm like, yeah, you're

0:40:57.719 --> 0:41:00.560
<v Speaker 3>getting the bad guy, and then they did that and I, wait,

0:41:00.719 --> 0:41:04.600
<v Speaker 3>you're also the bad guy. Wait, you're ruined this man's

0:41:04.680 --> 0:41:05.359
<v Speaker 3>day and war.

0:41:05.800 --> 0:41:08.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you can't be completely clean. I don't think when

0:41:08.000 --> 0:41:11.279
<v Speaker 1>you're trying to pull off a sting. I think I yeah,

0:41:11.440 --> 0:41:14.000
<v Speaker 1>I got my head around it enough. Like I said,

0:41:14.000 --> 0:41:16.000
<v Speaker 1>there were elements of this that I was trying. I

0:41:16.040 --> 0:41:19.800
<v Speaker 1>was playing catch up. And it is that thing with movies,

0:41:19.880 --> 0:41:22.520
<v Speaker 1>like you do always need to be ahead of your audience.

0:41:22.560 --> 0:41:26.759
<v Speaker 2>You know, you do need to be. You can't you can't.

0:41:26.520 --> 0:41:29.200
<v Speaker 1>Have them At the same point, you know that you

0:41:29.280 --> 0:41:32.040
<v Speaker 1>need to be every scene the you should be asking

0:41:32.120 --> 0:41:35.000
<v Speaker 1>subconsciously questions, I want, Okay, how's you gonna get out

0:41:35.000 --> 0:41:36.840
<v Speaker 1>of this? You know what's gonna happen next? And I

0:41:37.200 --> 0:41:40.520
<v Speaker 1>think this film that's does it really well. There's one

0:41:40.600 --> 0:41:43.359
<v Speaker 1>element that I must say I did not. I thought

0:41:43.400 --> 0:41:45.600
<v Speaker 1>they it was another cheat And I know I've come

0:41:45.640 --> 0:41:49.080
<v Speaker 1>with a couple of critical points, but I did.

0:41:48.920 --> 0:41:50.360
<v Speaker 2>Really enjoy it.

0:41:50.400 --> 0:41:56.320
<v Speaker 1>But the assassin, the twist, the turn. I mean, what

0:41:56.760 --> 0:41:58.760
<v Speaker 1>did you think about the assassin Loretta?

0:41:58.800 --> 0:41:59.520
<v Speaker 2>I think her name was it.

0:41:59.640 --> 0:42:03.400
<v Speaker 3>I didn't think that there was enough. Like again, it

0:42:03.520 --> 0:42:06.120
<v Speaker 3>was like one line where I can't remember Loretta's like

0:42:06.200 --> 0:42:08.399
<v Speaker 3>last name that they are like referring to her by.

0:42:09.280 --> 0:42:10.719
<v Speaker 3>But there's like one line where they're like, we need

0:42:10.719 --> 0:42:13.680
<v Speaker 3>to get our best guy on it. I can't remember that.

0:42:15.360 --> 0:42:17.799
<v Speaker 3>Then they're like, oh fine, And that was kind of

0:42:18.040 --> 0:42:21.280
<v Speaker 3>the only setup of that they have someone going after

0:42:21.320 --> 0:42:24.920
<v Speaker 3>the person who has given them counterfeit money or has

0:42:25.440 --> 0:42:30.319
<v Speaker 3>stolen that like five grand. From the beginning. Yeah, it

0:42:30.360 --> 0:42:32.240
<v Speaker 3>was just that one line and then every so often

0:42:32.400 --> 0:42:35.680
<v Speaker 3>you just see like a gloved hand and you're like, oh, yeah,

0:42:35.680 --> 0:42:38.880
<v Speaker 3>I guess that's the assassin. No, it's not. We got

0:42:38.920 --> 0:42:40.960
<v Speaker 3>a little fem fatale in the house.

0:42:41.719 --> 0:42:45.719
<v Speaker 2>It has no lines, no line, and no agency. Like

0:42:46.080 --> 0:42:48.520
<v Speaker 2>they said to her at one point, she's a real professional.

0:42:48.840 --> 0:42:53.000
<v Speaker 2>She did sweet fuck all, like like she slept.

0:42:52.680 --> 0:42:55.040
<v Speaker 1>With him, and they said, why didn't he why didn't

0:42:55.040 --> 0:42:58.000
<v Speaker 1>they she take him out when too many people would

0:42:58.000 --> 0:42:59.680
<v Speaker 1>have seen and like the old lady crossed the hall

0:42:59.680 --> 0:43:01.680
<v Speaker 1>would have But she's easily if you're an assassin.

0:43:01.800 --> 0:43:04.360
<v Speaker 2>She's easily you know, taken care of. Oh yeah, she's.

0:43:04.239 --> 0:43:07.640
<v Speaker 3>Probably about to go herself, but it's not much work.

0:43:08.280 --> 0:43:11.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah that felt really it did give me watching it.

0:43:12.160 --> 0:43:14.440
<v Speaker 3>I guess that extra sense off. I was like, oh no,

0:43:14.560 --> 0:43:17.320
<v Speaker 3>Robert Redford, you can fall in love. Oh my goodness,

0:43:18.200 --> 0:43:21.839
<v Speaker 3>Oh no, what if I was the lady working at well,

0:43:21.880 --> 0:43:25.080
<v Speaker 3>what if I was lady working there? On deer? But

0:43:25.239 --> 0:43:28.080
<v Speaker 3>also I was so frustrated when I saw that he

0:43:28.239 --> 0:43:31.239
<v Speaker 3>was like flirting with her, firstly because it wasn't me,

0:43:31.600 --> 0:43:33.960
<v Speaker 3>and then secondly because I was just like, you have

0:43:34.000 --> 0:43:38.000
<v Speaker 3>a job to do, so don't you dare? Don't you

0:43:38.080 --> 0:43:41.440
<v Speaker 3>dare for it? Because she has beautiful hair. Yeah, just wait,

0:43:41.680 --> 0:43:44.839
<v Speaker 3>wait a day, wait a couple of days. But also

0:43:44.880 --> 0:43:47.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, if she's an assassin, why wouldn't you just

0:43:47.760 --> 0:43:49.520
<v Speaker 3>kill him like straight away there?

0:43:50.280 --> 0:43:54.120
<v Speaker 1>And also he's always going to her, so like you

0:43:54.239 --> 0:43:59.800
<v Speaker 1>gotta have agency. You need to show her doing her job,

0:44:02.880 --> 0:44:08.040
<v Speaker 1>like have it that she buys him a drink, you know,

0:44:08.120 --> 0:44:10.480
<v Speaker 1>one on the house before you leave, you know, and

0:44:10.600 --> 0:44:13.480
<v Speaker 1>start the conversation. But it's always him going to her,

0:44:13.560 --> 0:44:17.359
<v Speaker 1>which is just too convenient. Yeah, you know, let her

0:44:17.560 --> 0:44:21.279
<v Speaker 1>seduce him and then whether it takes place in her

0:44:21.280 --> 0:44:25.000
<v Speaker 1>apartment or not. But it's I thought it was very lazy.

0:44:25.200 --> 0:44:25.520
<v Speaker 2>It was.

0:44:25.840 --> 0:44:28.520
<v Speaker 3>It felt like a bit of like a oh, you know,

0:44:28.560 --> 0:44:30.839
<v Speaker 3>we have put that lane in about an assassin going

0:44:30.920 --> 0:44:34.320
<v Speaker 3>after him. We're going to do a couple of pickups.

0:44:34.320 --> 0:44:36.080
<v Speaker 3>We're going to put it all right. She's working at

0:44:36.120 --> 0:44:38.680
<v Speaker 3>the diner. Absolutely, Didn't it just make you want to

0:44:38.680 --> 0:44:39.400
<v Speaker 3>eat it a diner?

0:44:40.040 --> 0:44:41.720
<v Speaker 2>I always want to eat an American dinas.

0:44:41.800 --> 0:44:44.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. All I was thinking was like, where are our

0:44:44.040 --> 0:44:45.360
<v Speaker 3>twenty four hour diners?

0:44:45.440 --> 0:44:45.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:44:45.840 --> 0:44:49.239
<v Speaker 3>Here, I want to get waffles at two am and

0:44:49.280 --> 0:44:51.600
<v Speaker 3>fall in love with someone working at the diner who

0:44:51.600 --> 0:44:53.359
<v Speaker 3>may or may not try to kill me. That's none

0:44:53.400 --> 0:44:54.960
<v Speaker 3>of my business, but I want to do it.

0:44:55.280 --> 0:44:58.520
<v Speaker 1>I feel like like a genuine diner as opposed to

0:44:58.560 --> 0:45:00.680
<v Speaker 1>like a Johnny Rockets where people are on skates and they.

0:45:00.600 --> 0:45:04.280
<v Speaker 2>Come over with happy birthday to somebody at a booth.

0:45:04.480 --> 0:45:07.640
<v Speaker 1>It's like, I want to feel like the genuine diner

0:45:07.800 --> 0:45:09.000
<v Speaker 1>or roadhouse that they have.

0:45:09.520 --> 0:45:11.080
<v Speaker 2>We just don't really have that culture here.

0:45:11.280 --> 0:45:13.440
<v Speaker 3>We don't, but I think we should. I think there

0:45:13.480 --> 0:45:15.799
<v Speaker 3>are enough in so many acts like a twenty four

0:45:15.800 --> 0:45:17.480
<v Speaker 3>hour diner, especially in Melbourne.

0:45:17.520 --> 0:45:19.680
<v Speaker 1>I want if Americans watch astraying films ago, I'd love

0:45:19.680 --> 0:45:20.560
<v Speaker 1>to go to a milk bar.

0:45:21.680 --> 0:45:23.480
<v Speaker 3>But do we have that. We don't really have many.

0:45:23.719 --> 0:45:25.760
<v Speaker 2>No milk bar. It's probably gone the way of the Dodo.

0:45:26.080 --> 0:45:27.560
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what we have any I don't think

0:45:27.560 --> 0:45:28.080
<v Speaker 3>we have an.

0:45:28.000 --> 0:45:31.360
<v Speaker 1>Equivalent No, No, I think we have an equivalent of

0:45:31.920 --> 0:45:34.960
<v Speaker 1>a We have a bigger pub culture.

0:45:35.400 --> 0:45:37.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Americans are watching. They're like, oh, wish I could

0:45:37.680 --> 0:45:40.640
<v Speaker 3>go get a parma. Wish I could go get a

0:45:40.680 --> 0:45:42.920
<v Speaker 3>twenty three dollar parma.

0:45:42.640 --> 0:45:44.960
<v Speaker 2>Cotten a parma barma.

0:45:45.239 --> 0:45:49.839
<v Speaker 1>Just there's a schnitzen tits.

0:45:49.160 --> 0:45:53.239
<v Speaker 2>When I go, When I go down under Unders.

0:45:52.280 --> 0:45:54.440
<v Speaker 3>That's what I'm doing, And I'm gonna and I'm gonna

0:45:54.480 --> 0:45:58.000
<v Speaker 3>watch a forty three year old man do carry OK,

0:45:59.440 --> 0:46:02.040
<v Speaker 3>That's what I'm want to do when I'm there. That's

0:46:02.520 --> 0:46:06.480
<v Speaker 3>what we've gone. Weir and we have culture, and that's

0:46:06.520 --> 0:46:08.680
<v Speaker 3>what this is about. This movie. All that made me

0:46:08.719 --> 0:46:11.920
<v Speaker 3>want to do is eat it a diner and gamble. Yeah, yeah,

0:46:11.960 --> 0:46:15.759
<v Speaker 3>and maybe try to. Actually, when my housemate and I

0:46:15.840 --> 0:46:17.960
<v Speaker 3>were watching it, we did start trying to see if

0:46:17.960 --> 0:46:20.319
<v Speaker 3>we could pickpocket one another. We can't.

0:46:20.480 --> 0:46:21.600
<v Speaker 2>It's so funny, isn't it.

0:46:21.719 --> 0:46:24.160
<v Speaker 1>Whenever you see in these kind of movies anybody just

0:46:24.200 --> 0:46:26.280
<v Speaker 1>bump into each other, you get it, Well, there's the walletstole.

0:46:27.160 --> 0:46:29.640
<v Speaker 3>But it's so what because I was like, how did they?

0:46:29.719 --> 0:46:31.879
<v Speaker 3>And we were we were practicing, we have had things

0:46:31.880 --> 0:46:34.200
<v Speaker 3>in our pocket and we were like walking past one

0:46:34.200 --> 0:46:36.600
<v Speaker 3>another and just like shoving each other and grabbing it.

0:46:36.640 --> 0:46:39.120
<v Speaker 3>We're like, noth felt that, not felt that? Do it again?

0:46:39.600 --> 0:46:43.000
<v Speaker 3>And I remembered when I was in I was in

0:46:43.280 --> 0:46:45.239
<v Speaker 3>Rome and I was on a train and there were

0:46:45.280 --> 0:46:46.960
<v Speaker 3>a bunch of pickpockets and we could see them because

0:46:46.960 --> 0:46:49.359
<v Speaker 3>they were in a group. And someone said to us like, hey,

0:46:49.480 --> 0:46:51.440
<v Speaker 3>just when you get on and off the train, that's

0:46:51.480 --> 0:46:55.640
<v Speaker 3>when they do their thing. And I was like okay, great,

0:46:56.440 --> 0:46:58.560
<v Speaker 3>and so we were I was like twenty and I

0:46:58.600 --> 0:47:00.920
<v Speaker 3>was like oh no, no, no no, and we're getting

0:47:00.920 --> 0:47:04.680
<v Speaker 3>off the train and a lady I saw, she turned

0:47:04.719 --> 0:47:06.560
<v Speaker 3>and there was just a hand in her bag and

0:47:06.600 --> 0:47:09.640
<v Speaker 3>she was also Australian, and she just grabbed her bag

0:47:09.680 --> 0:47:13.759
<v Speaker 3>and just went no, thank you, no, thank you, don't

0:47:13.760 --> 0:47:17.560
<v Speaker 3>pickpocket me. Please to think about that, think about what

0:47:17.600 --> 0:47:24.200
<v Speaker 3>you've done. No, thank you, absolutely not. Not on my holiday.

0:47:25.719 --> 0:47:29.320
<v Speaker 1>I love that Eileen Brennan. There's a great performance. Eileen

0:47:29.360 --> 0:47:33.760
<v Speaker 1>Brennan is so good. People know her from the Last

0:47:33.800 --> 0:47:37.160
<v Speaker 1>Picture Show. She was awesome in that. They also will

0:47:37.200 --> 0:47:42.400
<v Speaker 1>know her from a Private Benjamin with Goldie Horn, And

0:47:43.000 --> 0:47:46.719
<v Speaker 1>there are these little shortcuts when she when Hooker goes

0:47:46.840 --> 0:47:50.360
<v Speaker 1>to see Henry for the first time, and she's sweeping

0:47:50.760 --> 0:47:55.480
<v Speaker 1>at the stairs and this is like, is Henry Gondolf

0:47:55.520 --> 0:47:59.320
<v Speaker 1>for there? She goes scram beat it and she's like, Luther, Sammy,

0:47:59.360 --> 0:48:02.000
<v Speaker 1>are you you hook Yeah, come on in. It's just

0:48:02.440 --> 0:48:05.160
<v Speaker 1>why not you know, if you're expecting somebody, you know,

0:48:05.280 --> 0:48:07.200
<v Speaker 1>and they've asked for Amy, the Luther sends you.

0:48:07.840 --> 0:48:12.200
<v Speaker 3>It's yeah, something like news travels fast, like Luther just

0:48:12.239 --> 0:48:14.759
<v Speaker 3>got killed. I guess they had phones. Yeah, I guess

0:48:14.800 --> 0:48:17.480
<v Speaker 3>they had phones. But that's kind of something that I

0:48:17.560 --> 0:48:19.120
<v Speaker 3>was like, like, how does this man know where to go?

0:48:19.320 --> 0:48:21.680
<v Speaker 3>I think I must have missed something because he immediately

0:48:21.840 --> 0:48:24.440
<v Speaker 3>was like, I'm going to go visit this man I've

0:48:24.480 --> 0:48:27.200
<v Speaker 3>never met, who's the best in the Bears? Yeah, and

0:48:27.280 --> 0:48:30.080
<v Speaker 3>start this big con. Yeah, it's probably why I was

0:48:30.080 --> 0:48:33.919
<v Speaker 3>trying to pickpocket my house. I was probably busy trying

0:48:33.920 --> 0:48:35.120
<v Speaker 3>to get like wait, let me see if I can

0:48:35.120 --> 0:48:35.399
<v Speaker 3>do it.

0:48:35.600 --> 0:48:37.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've never been pickpockeing, but I always kind of

0:48:37.360 --> 0:48:39.239
<v Speaker 1>think surely I would feel it, you know.

0:48:39.400 --> 0:48:42.799
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, the good ones. Let's have a listen.

0:48:43.040 --> 0:48:45.279
<v Speaker 1>We're going to go backwards a little bit to it's

0:48:45.320 --> 0:48:47.759
<v Speaker 1>one of the most iconic scenes in the film, which

0:48:47.800 --> 0:48:48.640
<v Speaker 1>is a card game.

0:48:49.520 --> 0:48:52.280
<v Speaker 2>So Henry is playing drunk.

0:48:52.320 --> 0:48:54.840
<v Speaker 1>He's drinking out of the way I took it was

0:48:54.840 --> 0:48:56.360
<v Speaker 1>like basically gin with water in it.

0:48:56.440 --> 0:48:59.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, or just a bottle of either diluted it or

0:48:59.800 --> 0:49:00.680
<v Speaker 2>it's it's just water.

0:49:01.880 --> 0:49:06.840
<v Speaker 1>And he enters a hyphen Luton High society game of

0:49:06.920 --> 0:49:12.480
<v Speaker 1>cards with our good friend Robert Shaw Lonigan, and he

0:49:12.480 --> 0:49:17.200
<v Speaker 1>he enters.

0:49:14.960 --> 0:49:18.520
<v Speaker 4>Sing, lad guys, I was taking a crap named Shaw.

0:49:20.000 --> 0:49:22.640
<v Speaker 2>Mister Shaw, meet mister Jamison from Chicago.

0:49:22.880 --> 0:49:28.480
<v Speaker 4>Tire Lombard, Philadelphia, mister Lonigan from New York Crazy, meet

0:49:28.520 --> 0:49:31.520
<v Speaker 4>you mister Clayton Pittsburgh. So any of you guys want

0:49:31.560 --> 0:49:33.080
<v Speaker 4>to make a little book at Chicago. I'm a going

0:49:33.200 --> 0:49:38.760
<v Speaker 4>to see. Game is straight poker, one hundred dollars minimum

0:49:38.800 --> 0:49:39.600
<v Speaker 4>table steaks.

0:49:41.680 --> 0:49:44.239
<v Speaker 2>Mister Shaw, this is a gentleman's game. We assume you're

0:49:44.239 --> 0:49:45.280
<v Speaker 2>all good for your debts.

0:49:46.040 --> 0:49:49.040
<v Speaker 4>How much would you like, mister Shaw, I'll start with

0:49:49.120 --> 0:49:56.319
<v Speaker 4>five thousand, mister Shaw. We usually require a tie at

0:49:56.320 --> 0:49:58.080
<v Speaker 4>this table, and if you don't have one, we can

0:49:58.120 --> 0:49:58.640
<v Speaker 4>get your one.

0:49:59.160 --> 0:50:04.080
<v Speaker 3>Hey, it'd be real, mister larwen lalagam u.

0:50:05.120 --> 0:50:08.120
<v Speaker 1>It's I mean, that would have played very funny, I

0:50:08.120 --> 0:50:10.000
<v Speaker 1>think in you know, in cinemas back then. I mean,

0:50:10.000 --> 0:50:14.360
<v Speaker 1>I think it's funny. We even watching it now. A

0:50:14.400 --> 0:50:18.040
<v Speaker 1>couple of things like him saying taking a crap. I

0:50:18.040 --> 0:50:21.120
<v Speaker 1>do wonder what this is, is someone unexpected to hear the

0:50:21.120 --> 0:50:24.319
<v Speaker 1>word crap in a film and like referring to it

0:50:24.320 --> 0:50:27.000
<v Speaker 1>as actually taking a dump, Like I kind of think

0:50:27.080 --> 0:50:31.040
<v Speaker 1>that must I wondered if that was pretty edgy in

0:50:31.120 --> 0:50:34.480
<v Speaker 1>cinemas in the seventies, all this unexpected Maybe I kind of.

0:50:34.520 --> 0:50:36.440
<v Speaker 3>Kept I think again, because they did such a good

0:50:36.520 --> 0:50:38.360
<v Speaker 3>job of like rooting it in that kind of like

0:50:38.440 --> 0:50:41.279
<v Speaker 3>nineteen twenties that whenever they did say like shit or

0:50:41.360 --> 0:50:43.080
<v Speaker 3>that crap and stuff, I was a bit like like

0:50:43.200 --> 0:50:45.800
<v Speaker 3>clutching my part. They didn't say this in the twenties,

0:50:46.400 --> 0:50:49.160
<v Speaker 3>but like, yeah, it's so good. I think it would have.

0:50:49.320 --> 0:50:50.920
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, I think it would have been. But

0:50:50.960 --> 0:50:53.400
<v Speaker 3>also you think about the fact that it's, you know,

0:50:53.440 --> 0:50:55.840
<v Speaker 3>The Exorcist that had come out the same week, but

0:50:55.920 --> 0:50:59.320
<v Speaker 3>I think it just doesn't feel a part of the world. Yeah,

0:50:59.360 --> 0:51:01.080
<v Speaker 3>so I think that's probably why. I guess, like, in

0:51:01.120 --> 0:51:03.640
<v Speaker 3>the world, someone speaking like that is kind of shocking.

0:51:03.840 --> 0:51:07.480
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, the character is trying to be uncouthant, you know,

0:51:07.600 --> 0:51:11.080
<v Speaker 1>and to create this impression that he doesn't really belong

0:51:11.160 --> 0:51:15.720
<v Speaker 1>and he's maybe not you know, he's drunk, so he's

0:51:15.760 --> 0:51:21.680
<v Speaker 1>probably easy to take advantage of. When when Lonigan takes

0:51:21.680 --> 0:51:25.200
<v Speaker 1>the bottle of gin off him, I thought, you know,

0:51:25.520 --> 0:51:31.360
<v Speaker 1>they where it was heading, was he's about to be discovered,

0:51:31.920 --> 0:51:35.480
<v Speaker 1>because you know, maybe he'll poor And I thought, you know,

0:51:35.640 --> 0:51:38.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he wanted to ask her. It's much of

0:51:38.320 --> 0:51:41.080
<v Speaker 1>a loved film. But I think they miss an opportunity.

0:51:41.080 --> 0:51:43.399
<v Speaker 3>Frankie, I've got a couple of people.

0:51:43.920 --> 0:51:44.520
<v Speaker 2>I get some notes.

0:51:44.600 --> 0:51:48.920
<v Speaker 3>Yet I think you've forgotten. I think you've set something up. Yeah,

0:51:49.040 --> 0:51:54.600
<v Speaker 3>perhaps nothing, Okay, did you run out of time? Okay? Yeah,

0:51:54.920 --> 0:51:56.239
<v Speaker 3>because there was like a bit of a thing of

0:51:56.320 --> 0:51:58.359
<v Speaker 3>him filling it up and he explains he's like, you've

0:51:58.360 --> 0:52:01.440
<v Speaker 3>got to dilute it. So they think you're drunk and

0:52:01.480 --> 0:52:03.160
<v Speaker 3>then the bottle gets taken off and you are kind

0:52:03.160 --> 0:52:05.279
<v Speaker 3>of like, oh shit, and it's just like, oh no,

0:52:05.320 --> 0:52:06.240
<v Speaker 3>that was nothing happens.

0:52:06.239 --> 0:52:07.240
<v Speaker 2>Okay, nothing happened.

0:52:07.280 --> 0:52:10.080
<v Speaker 1>So even they obviously don't want him to get called

0:52:10.080 --> 0:52:12.279
<v Speaker 1>out because they want him to get through this. And

0:52:12.320 --> 0:52:14.480
<v Speaker 1>then they'll send Robert Redford into the room and we'll

0:52:14.480 --> 0:52:18.640
<v Speaker 1>listen to that bit in the second. But there an

0:52:18.640 --> 0:52:22.239
<v Speaker 1>opportunity is to pour, you know, a shot and then

0:52:22.320 --> 0:52:24.799
<v Speaker 1>kind of go to drink it, you know, and then

0:52:24.880 --> 0:52:25.560
<v Speaker 1>decide not to.

0:52:25.760 --> 0:52:29.560
<v Speaker 2>Let's have that tension engine would have been good. So

0:52:30.160 --> 0:52:31.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, George or Hill.

0:52:32.320 --> 0:52:34.319
<v Speaker 3>We'll send them through, take them or leave them if

0:52:34.320 --> 0:52:37.440
<v Speaker 3>you want. I lone Agans.

0:52:38.680 --> 0:52:39.719
<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about Robert Shaw.

0:52:41.040 --> 0:52:44.560
<v Speaker 3>It was awesome. Is he Irish?

0:52:45.040 --> 0:52:48.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yes he is Irish. Yes, he's in Jaws. He

0:52:49.239 --> 0:52:50.040
<v Speaker 2>plays like a.

0:52:50.239 --> 0:52:54.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, the big and that's a big monologue about

0:52:54.280 --> 0:52:56.000
<v Speaker 1>the World War two and the sharks in the water

0:52:56.120 --> 0:52:58.239
<v Speaker 1>and all that face on the true story.

0:52:58.320 --> 0:52:58.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:52:58.800 --> 0:53:01.719
<v Speaker 3>His voice the first time you see him, it's just

0:53:01.760 --> 0:53:06.040
<v Speaker 3>like his back and he starts speaking like that. I

0:53:06.080 --> 0:53:09.799
<v Speaker 3>was like, oh, what a cartoon evil man, what a

0:53:09.960 --> 0:53:14.880
<v Speaker 3>mustache twirling villain? And he had like a limp, and

0:53:14.920 --> 0:53:18.399
<v Speaker 3>I was like, you are like a Dudley do Right

0:53:18.960 --> 0:53:21.520
<v Speaker 3>kind of evil character. Yeah, awesome.

0:53:21.760 --> 0:53:23.720
<v Speaker 1>And he has a limp because he actually heard himself

0:53:23.719 --> 0:53:28.520
<v Speaker 1>playing racquetball in real life. Really yeah, and taur ligaments,

0:53:28.880 --> 0:53:31.239
<v Speaker 1>so they just he was wearing a knee brace and

0:53:31.320 --> 0:53:33.520
<v Speaker 1>luckily they had his wider set pants in the nineteen

0:53:33.560 --> 0:53:35.840
<v Speaker 1>thirties and they were able to, you know, make that work.

0:53:36.000 --> 0:53:38.240
<v Speaker 1>But it becomes part of the character.

0:53:38.400 --> 0:53:41.560
<v Speaker 3>I love movie. I love movie.

0:53:43.080 --> 0:53:44.480
<v Speaker 2>It's so good. It's so good.

0:53:44.480 --> 0:53:47.640
<v Speaker 1>But he is really and this movie, like you say,

0:53:47.640 --> 0:53:50.400
<v Speaker 1>this cartoon villain, and that's exactly what this movie wants,

0:53:50.480 --> 0:53:52.560
<v Speaker 1>Like yeah, you know, and it's interesting because he's an

0:53:52.560 --> 0:53:57.480
<v Speaker 1>Irish mob boss, which is probably they'll probably relieve they

0:53:57.520 --> 0:53:59.279
<v Speaker 1>went that way because at the time you had The

0:53:59.320 --> 0:54:03.840
<v Speaker 1>Godfather and that was played with protests from the Italian

0:54:03.840 --> 0:54:07.719
<v Speaker 1>American community, you know, you know, not really wanting that

0:54:07.760 --> 0:54:13.960
<v Speaker 1>part of their culture immortalized on screen. So I'm really

0:54:14.239 --> 0:54:16.920
<v Speaker 1>I just love watching Robert Shaw. All the way through this,

0:54:17.000 --> 0:54:18.319
<v Speaker 1>I thought he was just so good.

0:54:18.640 --> 0:54:23.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he was really, really good. I really enjoyed watching him.

0:54:23.120 --> 0:54:27.920
<v Speaker 3>He just he gave so little but like I don't know,

0:54:27.960 --> 0:54:31.000
<v Speaker 3>he was just so contained. But also I did notice

0:54:31.520 --> 0:54:34.640
<v Speaker 3>he had incredible blush on. There was like one scene

0:54:34.640 --> 0:54:37.840
<v Speaker 3>where I was like, girl, you're highlighted, Like it was

0:54:37.920 --> 0:54:40.360
<v Speaker 3>just like right, he had these little rosy cheeks and

0:54:40.400 --> 0:54:44.160
<v Speaker 3>I was just like, absolutely lean into that character choice.

0:54:44.640 --> 0:54:46.719
<v Speaker 3>This man is evil, but he takes his time to

0:54:46.760 --> 0:54:48.160
<v Speaker 3>present himself.

0:54:48.360 --> 0:54:50.920
<v Speaker 1>Well, he is a well dressed man. Certainly well, I

0:54:51.000 --> 0:54:52.719
<v Speaker 1>certainly noticed that I didn't notice the blush. I'm going

0:54:52.760 --> 0:54:55.880
<v Speaker 1>to watch it for a third time now, you'll notice.

0:54:54.640 --> 0:54:58.920
<v Speaker 3>It looks like a little Cherub's beautiful.

0:55:00.239 --> 0:55:02.160
<v Speaker 2>He's so much fun. And then the next bit happens

0:55:02.160 --> 0:55:05.319
<v Speaker 2>where he sends so Henry's finished, He's part of this thing.

0:55:06.040 --> 0:55:08.600
<v Speaker 1>He gets out. Like you said, there's elements I love

0:55:08.640 --> 0:55:10.520
<v Speaker 1>to say. I really genuinely love the scene. I love

0:55:10.560 --> 0:55:15.319
<v Speaker 1>the way Newman is acting. I love the way he's

0:55:15.360 --> 0:55:16.799
<v Speaker 1>protecting his cards.

0:55:17.360 --> 0:55:17.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:55:17.800 --> 0:55:19.799
<v Speaker 1>I would have loved to have seen, at some point,

0:55:19.800 --> 0:55:22.160
<v Speaker 1>whether it happens later on, how he was able to

0:55:22.480 --> 0:55:23.680
<v Speaker 1>manipulate his cards.

0:55:23.880 --> 0:55:24.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:55:24.880 --> 0:55:27.120
<v Speaker 1>I love the idea though, that both are trying to cheat.

0:55:27.120 --> 0:55:29.240
<v Speaker 1>And that's why Lonigan can't really call him out, because

0:55:29.840 --> 0:55:31.960
<v Speaker 1>what am I going to say that he cheated better

0:55:32.000 --> 0:55:34.279
<v Speaker 1>than I did? And that caint comes out when he

0:55:34.360 --> 0:55:38.080
<v Speaker 1>sends Johnny Hooker into the room to confront him or

0:55:38.239 --> 0:55:40.080
<v Speaker 1>the pick up the cash. But Johnny Hooker has got

0:55:40.120 --> 0:55:44.520
<v Speaker 1>other ideas. And I must say I really enjoyed this

0:55:44.560 --> 0:55:47.720
<v Speaker 1>because I was like, oh, okay, where is this going?

0:55:48.040 --> 0:55:52.120
<v Speaker 1>Like this idea that okay, you know he's confession straight away.

0:55:52.400 --> 0:55:54.879
<v Speaker 1>I was like, okay, let's yeah, let's see where this goes.

0:55:54.880 --> 0:55:55.600
<v Speaker 1>But let's have a listen.

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<v Speaker 3>Every bus is quite a card player, mister Kelly. How

0:55:59.000 --> 0:55:59.720
<v Speaker 3>as he does.

0:56:01.239 --> 0:56:02.200
<v Speaker 2>He cheats.

0:56:04.440 --> 0:56:06.360
<v Speaker 3>On that case, I'll keep my money and we'll just

0:56:06.400 --> 0:56:07.160
<v Speaker 3>have another game.

0:56:07.480 --> 0:56:12.600
<v Speaker 4>You don't have any to keep. There's your wallet. You

0:56:12.719 --> 0:56:15.640
<v Speaker 4>heard a dame to take it from you. Shaw has

0:56:15.680 --> 0:56:17.440
<v Speaker 4>been planning to beat your game for months. He just

0:56:17.480 --> 0:56:19.239
<v Speaker 4>been waiting for you to cheat him so he could

0:56:19.239 --> 0:56:19.600
<v Speaker 4>clip you.

0:56:21.920 --> 0:56:23.200
<v Speaker 2>Who do you think you're talking to her?

0:56:23.200 --> 0:56:24.440
<v Speaker 3>And by nobody sets me up?

0:56:25.080 --> 0:56:27.240
<v Speaker 2>Take them back to the baggage, will puts one easier?

0:56:27.320 --> 0:56:29.560
<v Speaker 3>Please think there are four witnesses at that table and

0:56:29.640 --> 0:56:32.640
<v Speaker 3>go back. Get another goddamn son of vexables. Dump them

0:56:32.640 --> 0:56:34.799
<v Speaker 3>in the first tunnel. Hit doial. We're gonna be in

0:56:34.800 --> 0:56:36.080
<v Speaker 3>the station in a couple of minutes.

0:56:36.160 --> 0:56:38.439
<v Speaker 4>Thinking not too good. You're killing a guy your money too.

0:56:40.280 --> 0:56:41.719
<v Speaker 4>There's better ways of taking him down.

0:56:43.160 --> 0:56:44.640
<v Speaker 2>There's better ways to take me down.

0:56:44.680 --> 0:56:47.200
<v Speaker 1>So that was that was really effective for me because

0:56:47.200 --> 0:56:50.080
<v Speaker 1>I was like, Okay, I had no idea what's about

0:56:50.120 --> 0:56:50.480
<v Speaker 1>to happen.

0:56:50.840 --> 0:56:53.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they haven't explained what the play by play is,

0:56:53.960 --> 0:56:56.120
<v Speaker 3>and so yeah, you are along for the ride. But

0:56:56.200 --> 0:57:01.000
<v Speaker 3>I love as well that they absolutely like go into

0:57:01.200 --> 0:57:03.239
<v Speaker 3>his ego because they dis like they say that he

0:57:03.560 --> 0:57:06.360
<v Speaker 3>his way that he's been made up is that he

0:57:07.000 --> 0:57:09.560
<v Speaker 3>gets close to like the head of some kind of

0:57:09.600 --> 0:57:13.320
<v Speaker 3>like a criminal organization, learns how to do his racket,

0:57:13.320 --> 0:57:14.839
<v Speaker 3>and then kills him off. And that's how he's gone

0:57:14.920 --> 0:57:17.200
<v Speaker 3>up and up. And then that's exactly what Hooker is.

0:57:17.400 --> 0:57:19.200
<v Speaker 3>He's like, it's like, oh, I've come from the same

0:57:19.240 --> 0:57:21.560
<v Speaker 3>town as you. Oh I'm kind of doing the same thing.

0:57:21.600 --> 0:57:24.000
<v Speaker 3>We're very similar. And then of course they're like this

0:57:24.040 --> 0:57:26.920
<v Speaker 3>man kills for Pride and he's like, I see myself

0:57:26.960 --> 0:57:27.200
<v Speaker 3>and you.

0:57:27.560 --> 0:57:29.600
<v Speaker 1>Did you feel the like as it went along? Did

0:57:29.640 --> 0:57:32.480
<v Speaker 1>you feel the danger? Like like I said earlier, I

0:57:32.520 --> 0:57:34.720
<v Speaker 1>didn't necessarily feel like the newman and Red for we're

0:57:34.760 --> 0:57:36.680
<v Speaker 1>going to betray each other, But I did. Yeah, En,

0:57:36.680 --> 0:57:39.600
<v Speaker 1>I feel like the stakes were high enough, like that

0:57:40.560 --> 0:57:45.560
<v Speaker 1>Robert Shaw gave enough menace to believe that these two

0:57:45.600 --> 0:57:46.880
<v Speaker 1>were potentially in danger.

0:57:47.600 --> 0:57:50.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think he did. I think when I was

0:57:50.520 --> 0:57:54.320
<v Speaker 3>watching it, because the like, the big con is that he,

0:57:54.560 --> 0:57:58.360
<v Speaker 3>Robert Shaw puts down like half a million dollars to

0:57:58.480 --> 0:58:02.760
<v Speaker 3>bet and we'll lose it. But his house and everything,

0:58:02.760 --> 0:58:05.840
<v Speaker 3>it looks so rich. And then I remembered, oh, that's

0:58:05.880 --> 0:58:08.560
<v Speaker 3>half a million dollars in the twenties. Yeah, And then

0:58:08.560 --> 0:58:11.440
<v Speaker 3>as soon as I look that up, I'm like, oh,

0:58:11.240 --> 0:58:13.160
<v Speaker 3>oh my goodness, oh.

0:58:13.080 --> 0:58:15.560
<v Speaker 2>Dear, how much was it you? Like, do you have anything?

0:58:15.600 --> 0:58:19.320
<v Speaker 1>I can't remember, but I must say I that thought

0:58:19.320 --> 0:58:21.640
<v Speaker 1>occurred to me. It's like when he asked for you know,

0:58:22.560 --> 0:58:26.000
<v Speaker 1>another half a million dollars whatever it was, was like shit, like.

0:58:26.000 --> 0:58:28.280
<v Speaker 2>This is yeah, this is massive.

0:58:28.480 --> 0:58:30.760
<v Speaker 3>This is because I think that I looked at eleven

0:58:31.120 --> 0:58:35.480
<v Speaker 3>eleven thousand dollars was one hundred and seventy four k.

0:58:36.200 --> 0:58:38.160
<v Speaker 1>Well, I know that Paul Newman and Robert Reffick both

0:58:38.200 --> 0:58:41.120
<v Speaker 1>got paid five hundred thousand each for making this film,

0:58:41.520 --> 0:58:45.400
<v Speaker 1>which was three million dollars you know, in today's money.

0:58:46.560 --> 0:58:51.240
<v Speaker 1>So if you then go back to the twenties or thirties.

0:58:52.960 --> 0:58:56.160
<v Speaker 1>Yet staggering it is. It is high stakes.

0:58:56.360 --> 0:58:57.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean even when he was at the day

0:58:57.800 --> 0:59:00.440
<v Speaker 3>in it he got meat, love, a coffee, and an

0:59:00.480 --> 0:59:02.760
<v Speaker 3>apple pie for I think it was she said eighty

0:59:02.760 --> 0:59:04.360
<v Speaker 3>five and like, was it eighty five cents? With that

0:59:04.480 --> 0:59:05.120
<v Speaker 3>eight dollars?

0:59:05.200 --> 0:59:05.480
<v Speaker 2>I was.

0:59:06.200 --> 0:59:08.080
<v Speaker 1>I looked at the prices on the wall at one point,

0:59:08.840 --> 0:59:11.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh went, wow, you can get you can get maybe

0:59:11.880 --> 0:59:14.840
<v Speaker 1>not hot chocolate, but you know, for it's fifty thirty cents,

0:59:16.080 --> 0:59:19.080
<v Speaker 1>it's amazing, and that a little Speaking of the diner,

0:59:19.200 --> 0:59:20.919
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I've got to mention this earlier when we're

0:59:20.920 --> 0:59:24.560
<v Speaker 1>speaking about it. The same diner that they meet Hi

0:59:24.560 --> 0:59:28.120
<v Speaker 1>at one point is the diner that Doc meets Marty

0:59:28.200 --> 0:59:29.600
<v Speaker 1>McFly in Back to the Future.

0:59:30.520 --> 0:59:32.600
<v Speaker 3>Was it like an operational diner? Like was it?

0:59:33.200 --> 0:59:33.360
<v Speaker 2>No?

0:59:33.400 --> 0:59:35.720
<v Speaker 1>I think it's funny people say that and then you

0:59:35.760 --> 0:59:38.320
<v Speaker 1>look at it you gonna go. But surely it's almost

0:59:38.360 --> 0:59:41.919
<v Speaker 1>like completely reconstructed. And what part of it is still

0:59:42.000 --> 0:59:45.440
<v Speaker 1>really the diner? Is it just the actual bench itself?

0:59:45.480 --> 0:59:48.360
<v Speaker 1>But I would have I would have thought that from

0:59:48.760 --> 0:59:51.360
<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy three. I guess it's only from the sting

0:59:51.480 --> 0:59:54.560
<v Speaker 1>to Back to the Future. It's probably what twelve years.

0:59:54.720 --> 0:59:56.400
<v Speaker 3>They probably just put up a couple of posters and

0:59:56.440 --> 0:59:57.600
<v Speaker 3>they were just like, all right now it's Back to

0:59:57.600 --> 1:00:01.120
<v Speaker 3>the Future film.

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<v Speaker 1>The we're heading towards the end. They do a really

1:00:06.800 --> 1:00:09.920
<v Speaker 1>good job when we're in that world of the Cassine.

1:00:09.960 --> 1:00:12.280
<v Speaker 1>It's not really casino, is it. But it's a.

1:00:11.880 --> 1:00:14.160
<v Speaker 3>Fake, a fake underground Cassino.

1:00:14.360 --> 1:00:15.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's call it that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I love the scene where he doesn't quite get

1:00:18.720 --> 1:00:22.680
<v Speaker 1>the bet on in time because they kind of, you know,

1:00:22.720 --> 1:00:25.160
<v Speaker 1>they can't afford to lose that money. But it's just

1:00:25.200 --> 1:00:28.600
<v Speaker 1>smart because they want to not risk the money. They

1:00:28.600 --> 1:00:31.000
<v Speaker 1>haven't got the money to pay that out, but they

1:00:31.000 --> 1:00:34.680
<v Speaker 1>need to convince him that he would have been right. Yeah,

1:00:34.760 --> 1:00:37.440
<v Speaker 1>And I think that's a really that was I think

1:00:37.440 --> 1:00:41.400
<v Speaker 1>a really smart move. And this to see again to

1:00:41.480 --> 1:00:44.560
<v Speaker 1>keep going back to it. But Newman and Redford in Taxedos,

1:00:44.840 --> 1:00:46.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's your box office right there.

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<v Speaker 3>I forgot about the montage, the like twenties style montage

1:00:51.840 --> 1:00:56.400
<v Speaker 3>where they glow up Robert Redford, yes, his part, but

1:00:56.480 --> 1:00:59.760
<v Speaker 3>they only play the same Din Din dinner did. That's

1:00:59.760 --> 1:01:02.280
<v Speaker 3>the only music that plays in the entire film. It's

1:01:02.320 --> 1:01:06.680
<v Speaker 3>just that one like carousel song. And so during the montage,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like a it's like a nineteen twenty but kind

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<v Speaker 3>of that, like walking out in like a new tuxedo,

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<v Speaker 3>turning around being like maybe this one, and then like

1:01:15.160 --> 1:01:17.560
<v Speaker 3>a wipe to him getting a manicure, going what is

1:01:17.760 --> 1:01:21.080
<v Speaker 3>this thing? Someone like tailoring his pants, like get off me.

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<v Speaker 3>And then at the end, all they've done is like

1:01:23.120 --> 1:01:25.439
<v Speaker 3>combed back his hair and they're like pretty good.

1:01:25.560 --> 1:01:28.720
<v Speaker 1>Robin red It's like, wow, how did you make this

1:01:28.760 --> 1:01:29.520
<v Speaker 1>guy look like that?

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<v Speaker 3>Before he looked like he looked disgusting and now he's

1:01:33.160 --> 1:01:37.040
<v Speaker 3>a glowing prince And just like either way he'd be fine.

1:01:38.520 --> 1:01:39.600
<v Speaker 3>Just get him out there.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Robert red Foot, Robin Redford. It's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>So when when everything goes down, the shooting happens, and

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<v Speaker 1>is there any part of you that thought, oh, they've

1:01:51.960 --> 1:01:53.720
<v Speaker 1>turned on each other and now they're one of the

1:01:53.760 --> 1:01:55.800
<v Speaker 1>one's being killed or you were a long.

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<v Speaker 3>No, one hundred percent. I was like as soon as

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<v Speaker 3>they like that like fake FBI busted in at the

1:02:03.080 --> 1:02:05.600
<v Speaker 3>end and they were like arresting him, I was like,

1:02:05.680 --> 1:02:09.800
<v Speaker 3>oh god, and then and then he gets shot. I

1:02:09.920 --> 1:02:13.520
<v Speaker 3>was like, yeah, shoot him, shoot the rat, get him,

1:02:14.400 --> 1:02:17.520
<v Speaker 3>you dog. And then I can't remember. It was when

1:02:17.560 --> 1:02:24.840
<v Speaker 3>they were just rushing out, is it er, mister evil rubbishaw?

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah. I think it was at that point where

1:02:28.560 --> 1:02:30.640
<v Speaker 3>they're like everyone get out, everyone get out, and then

1:02:30.840 --> 1:02:33.960
<v Speaker 3>they've just rushed him out and there's a scene of them.

1:02:34.080 --> 1:02:36.040
<v Speaker 3>He's like, my man is in there, and then I

1:02:36.040 --> 1:02:37.960
<v Speaker 3>realized no one else was leaving. I think that's when

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, oh, thank god, Oh it's a part

1:02:40.920 --> 1:02:42.800
<v Speaker 3>of it because I saw when he was getting ready

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<v Speaker 3>he put something in his mouth and I was like okay,

1:02:47.000 --> 1:02:48.800
<v Speaker 3>and then I was like it's a blood campsule.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, yeah, I I yeah, I had a moment

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<v Speaker 1>where I did question I go, oh maybe, which is

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<v Speaker 1>like it's it's good filmmaking because I kind of, you know,

1:02:59.400 --> 1:03:01.680
<v Speaker 1>it's a sting in that, like like I wasn't convinced

1:03:01.720 --> 1:03:03.000
<v Speaker 1>that these two were going to betray each other.

1:03:03.320 --> 1:03:06.760
<v Speaker 2>He shot, you know, he gets shot, but.

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<v Speaker 3>He's got shot in the leg, and then they rolled

1:03:08.320 --> 1:03:10.800
<v Speaker 3>him over and he was dead and I was like, okay,

1:03:10.840 --> 1:03:11.600
<v Speaker 3>keep shutting.

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<v Speaker 2>The leg and he got blood in the man.

1:03:13.640 --> 1:03:17.480
<v Speaker 1>You're right, actually, but for a second and then and

1:03:17.480 --> 1:03:19.120
<v Speaker 1>then that was pretty quick going no, I think this

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<v Speaker 1>is this is all part of it, and he gets

1:03:20.960 --> 1:03:26.040
<v Speaker 1>ushed out, you're right. And final note was when Johnny

1:03:26.080 --> 1:03:27.920
<v Speaker 1>Hooker decides not to take the money.

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<v Speaker 3>I got a thought of yep, yep.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you should be your thoughts. Okay.

1:03:32.360 --> 1:03:35.439
<v Speaker 3>So at the end, two man guys who have done

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<v Speaker 3>this whole thing for for Luther, their friend who was

1:03:39.440 --> 1:03:42.480
<v Speaker 3>shut down, and then they both go, you're not going

1:03:42.480 --> 1:03:44.480
<v Speaker 3>to stay for your cut, all right, let's get out

1:03:44.480 --> 1:03:46.720
<v Speaker 3>of here. I'm like, give the money to the family, exactly,

1:03:46.840 --> 1:03:50.000
<v Speaker 3>give the money to the I was laughing so hard

1:03:50.040 --> 1:03:52.600
<v Speaker 3>as the credits when I was like, is anyone are

1:03:52.640 --> 1:03:53.560
<v Speaker 3>they going to give the money?

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<v Speaker 1>Because it's such a simple idea that would have like

1:03:58.000 --> 1:04:03.240
<v Speaker 1>just like be more believable, Like really, Johnny Hooker like

1:04:03.280 --> 1:04:06.600
<v Speaker 1>you're not. You're not thinking at all about what you

1:04:06.640 --> 1:04:09.520
<v Speaker 1>could do with the money for you or somebody else,

1:04:09.600 --> 1:04:14.919
<v Speaker 1>Like the perfect idea I had was. So he goes

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<v Speaker 1>to leave, and maybe Paul Newman says to him, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go, yeah, get a buzz on, le let's go

1:04:19.000 --> 1:04:21.840
<v Speaker 1>get a drink, and he's like, I might drink with

1:04:21.880 --> 1:04:23.600
<v Speaker 1>myself tonight or you know, like and he's got his

1:04:23.720 --> 1:04:25.520
<v Speaker 1>money and he goes off and he's like, oh yeah

1:04:25.520 --> 1:04:27.840
<v Speaker 1>he's a party boy or he's young, get laid or something.

1:04:28.440 --> 1:04:30.880
<v Speaker 1>And then you see him drop the money off. Yeah,

1:04:31.000 --> 1:04:31.680
<v Speaker 1>Luthor family.

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<v Speaker 3>It could have been one line being like, you're not

1:04:33.800 --> 1:04:36.200
<v Speaker 3>going to stay for your share? No, I think I'll

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<v Speaker 3>give it to Luther's family. Let's get out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it really had to be like I mean, I

1:04:40.720 --> 1:04:43.560
<v Speaker 1>would loved doing like not not announce it like this

1:04:43.760 --> 1:04:44.440
<v Speaker 1>kind of go like you.

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<v Speaker 2>At the camera now you think.

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<v Speaker 3>Fingers the moral of the story.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but like you know, even a knock on the

1:04:53.320 --> 1:04:56.240
<v Speaker 1>door and you know, you see him leave and maybe

1:04:56.240 --> 1:04:58.960
<v Speaker 1>you don't even know it's him, and the door opens

1:04:58.960 --> 1:05:02.080
<v Speaker 1>as Luther's wife and she is a package there and.

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<v Speaker 3>In a little baby basket full of money, pulling back

1:05:07.280 --> 1:05:10.840
<v Speaker 3>it's cradling it like it's a baby. You have a

1:05:10.880 --> 1:05:11.800
<v Speaker 3>new family. Now.

1:05:13.960 --> 1:05:16.680
<v Speaker 1>Honestly, they went to a lot of efforts, went to

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<v Speaker 1>so much effort, and I don't think I've really seen

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<v Speaker 1>the growth, you know, the journey of Johnny Hooker to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of really think he'd gone from And I understand

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<v Speaker 1>the idea that it was about avenging Luther's death, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm completely on board for that, but at least where

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<v Speaker 1>does the money go? Like is it just get evenly

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<v Speaker 1>spread amongst everybody else who like just do something better

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<v Speaker 1>with it?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And they're just like it's all of them just

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<v Speaker 3>like packing down the entire thing really quickly, Like as

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<v Speaker 3>soon as everyone's gone, they're like, all right, pack it up.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, what's the admin process now? Like it's

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<v Speaker 3>like if you're an extra, come forward, you get your amount, and.

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<v Speaker 1>We're having a sale on these things really cheaply if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to buy yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>If anyone wants to take.

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<v Speaker 2>Anything, there's bottles here, please.

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<v Speaker 3>Guys, we can't take it.

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<v Speaker 2>We're nice.

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<v Speaker 3>Take it was the quickest bump out and then just

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<v Speaker 3>they just had what's gonna happen in the money? Also?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean is that I feel like that man is

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<v Speaker 3>a very vengeful man. I think he's going to try

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<v Speaker 3>to find his money.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's the other thing. He's still alive.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I would have had the knock on the door,

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<v Speaker 1>loser's family opens it, the money is there, or somebody

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<v Speaker 1>passes it to her. That's not Johnny Hook, but we

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<v Speaker 1>know where it's come from. And then Johnny is seeing

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<v Speaker 1>a final shot of Johnny Hooker is sitting on a

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<v Speaker 1>train maybe with Henry.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, journeying.

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<v Speaker 1>Off, you know, feeling good about the choice that he made.

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<v Speaker 2>That's for me, he is a better ending. I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry Julor roy Hill and David s Ward who

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<v Speaker 1>wrote the script, but.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm I'm with you. I was laughing pretty hard

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<v Speaker 3>at the credits. I was like, you missed a bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Excuse me, did you run out of time?

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<v Speaker 1>Because even he says, well, I will just blow it anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>the idea because you know, when he made some money

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<v Speaker 1>earlier on in the film, we see you can go

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<v Speaker 1>to the roulette table and it's all corrupted, but he

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<v Speaker 1>lost the money straight away.

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<v Speaker 2>Basically.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so we understand that he likes to take chances

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<v Speaker 1>and all that. So I guess there's a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>growth in the character with that.

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<v Speaker 3>But just you don't have to throw the baby out

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<v Speaker 3>with the bathroom exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember why you're doing is for Luthor and Luther's family

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<v Speaker 1>and that probably don't have the support that Luthor provided them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she's out grifting again. Wife is out grifting again.

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<v Speaker 3>Going if only there was a baby basket full of

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<v Speaker 3>money that I could have.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, and Johnny Hook hasn't even dropped by recently,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, his own projects. There were a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>my issues with the thing, but I really enjoyed. It

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<v Speaker 1>was good to see a film that was just just

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<v Speaker 1>being entertaining.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was really entertaining, I thought it. Yeah it was.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it was so built in that nineteen twenties

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<v Speaker 3>world that when you said that The Exorcist came out

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<v Speaker 3>the same week, I was like, but that's not possible.

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<v Speaker 2>It's nuts.

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<v Speaker 3>This was made in the twenties when they didn't have

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<v Speaker 3>audio for movies yet. Yeah, it's yeah, I really it

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<v Speaker 3>was so fun.

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<v Speaker 2>It was so fun.

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<v Speaker 1>And even the bits where I didn't like, even with

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<v Speaker 1>the assassin Laretta, like when she got shot in the head,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, like wow, what the hell? And

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<v Speaker 1>then I didn't think hang on, Like even when they

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<v Speaker 1>turned their body out, there was no point where you

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<v Speaker 1>could see that she was reaching for her gun. I think, right,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe that like a frame of her right arm going

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<v Speaker 1>to her handbag, like for a frame. Yeah, as she

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<v Speaker 1>gets shot, basically as almost as you hear the gun shot,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they turn her over and the gun is

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<v Speaker 1>clearly in her hand.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, what we didn't see?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was. I feel like they did the first

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<v Speaker 3>cut and were like, we could add it on. We

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<v Speaker 3>could add in another ten minutes. Let's add in another

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<v Speaker 3>ten minutes. Let's that come on, let's go, let's do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Because it's it's a it's a great idea to have

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<v Speaker 1>the fem fertile the lady assassin, but just make her

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<v Speaker 1>work for it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I did. I did shout and point when it

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<v Speaker 3>was like that was the assassin. I was like, a twist, twist,

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<v Speaker 3>a lady assassin. We can do anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Low at us, go.

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<v Speaker 3>Take that man? Where can I tell you?

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<v Speaker 1>This is years before Andrew and the Jolley and her

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<v Speaker 1>movie sald whatever what was called. Yeah, I did the

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<v Speaker 1>original script a few movie facts before we wrapped things up.

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<v Speaker 1>The original script was a lot darker. It was involving

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<v Speaker 1>I think a fixed boxing match and the brother dying

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<v Speaker 1>and kind of avenging his brother's death and the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>We had a much dark undertone, and George roy Hill,

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<v Speaker 1>who preferred to keep things a bit lighter, decided that

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<v Speaker 1>he wanted to make this like a homage to nineteen twenties,

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<v Speaker 1>nine and thirties Hollywood. And and I think he made

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<v Speaker 1>a good choice by doing that. Oh, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>who who killed Selena?

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<v Speaker 2>You know that when he goes down to the alleyway

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<v Speaker 2>his guardian age and.

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<v Speaker 1>He's trapped and then you go and then somebody it's

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<v Speaker 1>for Selena or he was Seleno. I just had a

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<v Speaker 1>note who killed Seleno? And it kind of the camera

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<v Speaker 1>pans down to a manhole suggesting that's where Johnny Hooker is. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so it wasn't Johnny Hooker who killed him? Was that

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<v Speaker 1>black glove?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay? So Selena was the Dinah lady. That was the

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<v Speaker 3>name of the assassinka. And that was like the reveal.

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<v Speaker 3>But the guy with the glove, we're meant to think

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<v Speaker 3>that that is Seleno the assassin. It's actually not. That's

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<v Speaker 3>someone that Henry has sent to look.

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<v Speaker 2>Out look for Johnny, for Johnny Hooker.

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<v Speaker 3>So then you see the glove and the gun and

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<v Speaker 3>you're like, he's about to shoo Johnny Hooker and then

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<v Speaker 3>he shoots Selena.

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<v Speaker 1>So Selena was the guy in the alleyway chasing Johnny Hooker?

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<v Speaker 2>Was that right?

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<v Speaker 3>No, that was just our Guyleno killed.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so who killed? Who killed? That guy in the alleyway?

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<v Speaker 3>Selena the Dinah lady.

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<v Speaker 1>But I thought there was a male voice. Was a

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<v Speaker 1>male voice maybe coming from the guy in the alleyway?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because he was like Selena, no.

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<v Speaker 2>Y yes, okay okay.

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<v Speaker 3>But again, it did feel like you're watching a separate

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<v Speaker 3>movie for those bits. It did feel like they kind

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<v Speaker 3>of took footage from another movie and just went and

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<v Speaker 3>also there's this there's also this bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Also there's this side bit, the side quest.

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<v Speaker 1>It was Yeah, I like, like often if I come

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<v Speaker 1>with this many criticisms, it's I didn't enjoy the film

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<v Speaker 1>as much. But I really I really did, and it

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<v Speaker 1>really seems up to a second watch, I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't see all the.

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<v Speaker 2>The little bits.

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<v Speaker 1>Julia Phillips was a producer and became the first female

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<v Speaker 1>producer to win an Oscar. Yes, so salute to Julia

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<v Speaker 1>Phillips accepted the Oscar off.

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<v Speaker 2>Elizabeth Taylor, Oh Love Liz.

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<v Speaker 1>Liza handed that one to Julia and then sadly, though

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<v Speaker 1>Julie may have broken the glass ceiling but didn't completely

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<v Speaker 1>shatter it, because the next female producer to win.

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<v Speaker 2>I think was driving Miss Daisy, which.

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<v Speaker 3>Is like, oh my goodness, let's.

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<v Speaker 2>Say late eighties, maybe even ninety.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. You don't want to go too hot,

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<v Speaker 3>too quick, Hollywood into everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's okay, let's just just calm down. You had to go,

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<v Speaker 3>you had to go. Now, it's let's let the spell as.

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<v Speaker 2>A guy, get the men back in the room.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't want them to get upset. You did such

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<v Speaker 3>a good job at sharing boys.

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<v Speaker 2>Good job, I know. It's I was like, oh, that's cool,

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<v Speaker 2>and then it's odd.

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<v Speaker 3>The next one was okay, well, nearly.

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<v Speaker 1>Paul Newman was advised not to do the film because

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<v Speaker 1>he was suggested that you shouldn't do comedy because he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have a light touch.

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<v Speaker 2>I would completely disagree with that.

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<v Speaker 3>They disagree.

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<v Speaker 2>You feel like cool hand.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, I feel like he brings a lightness to that

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<v Speaker 1>character and you know, the hustler and there's Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like Paul Newman does have that in spades.

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<v Speaker 3>He's so cheeky, he's such a he literally has a.

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<v Speaker 2>Glint in his eye, yeah he does.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's a bit of a practical joke like George

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<v Speaker 1>Clooney plays, you know, he's famous playing these practical jokes,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think he basically is carrying on a tradition

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<v Speaker 1>of Robert Redford and Paul Newman.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's literally he's I would probably describe it as

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<v Speaker 3>a cheeky rag a muffin.

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<v Speaker 2>Which I might take that as my next year's comedy

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<v Speaker 2>festival title.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, go for it, and then you can have the

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<v Speaker 3>little the little blush on your cheeks too, like a

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<v Speaker 3>little cherub Robert shawstyle. It's me.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a horse god Wilder in the The Calling of

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<v Speaker 1>the Horse. Most of them were A lot of them

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<v Speaker 1>were actual horses around that time, but there was a

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<v Speaker 1>few that weren't, and Wilder was one. Potentially, this hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>been confirmed. It potentially it's because Billy Wilder, the famous

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<v Speaker 1>writer director, hated horse racing, so it might have been

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit joke at his expense that a horse

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<v Speaker 1>called Wilder.

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<v Speaker 3>Some of those horses had wild names. One of them

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<v Speaker 3>was like Beefcake. They just had like absolutely obscene names.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, yeah, I don't want to be.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the fun parts of riding the screw going,

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<v Speaker 1>what are we going to call these horses? It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>really matter. We've got to make some pop more than others. Perhaps, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let's call it beefcake, why not.

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<v Speaker 3>In the running beefcake, beefcake meat chack there is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one of the great voices that that that era

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<v Speaker 1>of race calling.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, is such.

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<v Speaker 1>A strong recognizable voice. Technically, the technical advisor actually did

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<v Speaker 1>the car tricks and a lot of the shuffling when

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<v Speaker 1>Paul Newman was doing it.

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<v Speaker 3>And then there's like it was like it was it

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<v Speaker 3>was his hands, his hands. Yeah, that's all I'm thinking of,

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<v Speaker 3>is like all of the adventures, just the cut to

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<v Speaker 3>just like completely different hands, just completely different.

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<v Speaker 1>That is I'm gonna get it Russell Cooit in the

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<v Speaker 1>second funnily enough, and yeah, so then his hands kind

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<v Speaker 1>of leave the scene for a split second. There's an

1:15:19.600 --> 1:15:22.320
<v Speaker 1>invisible cut, and then that pans up to see Paul Newman.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really it's really nicely done. Robert Redford did not

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<v Speaker 1>see this move until two thousand and four, and I

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<v Speaker 1>can't find anywhere if he enjoyed the film or not,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the next This is fact that Robert Reveie

1:15:35.360 --> 1:15:36.920
<v Speaker 1>did not see his film to two thousand and four.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but what did he think? We need to know?

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<v Speaker 3>What did he think when he saw it? Did he

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<v Speaker 3>think I'm the most beautiful man in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>He may be actually scouring the you know, the podcast

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<v Speaker 1>world or the internet to find reviews and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>modern reviews. He could be listening to this right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Robert, you did such a good job.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree to Robert, and those criticism I have like

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<v Speaker 1>the you know, take it or leave it to be honest,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm probably wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>You have a great run, Robert Redford, You have an

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<v Speaker 3>incredible gait.

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<v Speaker 2>He runs a lot, doesn't he?

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<v Speaker 3>He runs so much?

1:16:11.080 --> 1:16:16.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like Tom Cruise would be yea running going on here.

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<v Speaker 3>There's so much running. And that's why there's been a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of things I have auditioned for that have been

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<v Speaker 3>like cops and I'm like, and I haven't gotten it,

1:16:23.439 --> 1:16:25.280
<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, it's probably good because I have an

1:16:25.280 --> 1:16:31.040
<v Speaker 3>obscene run. I have the run of someone who's running

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<v Speaker 3>for public transport but doesn't want to commit to the run.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's me really trying. It's not good. So if

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<v Speaker 3>anyone listening needs that and anything coming up, please let

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<v Speaker 3>me know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's funny.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to think if I've ever had the run

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<v Speaker 1>on the screen but it's one of those things you

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<v Speaker 1>don't really think about until you have to do it,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you don't think what look, the older you get,

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<v Speaker 1>the less you run. Obviously, yeah, well actually run.

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<v Speaker 2>To keep fit.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've heard it's a thing I think the millennials

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<v Speaker 1>are starting to do.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know unless you unless your doctor has said

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<v Speaker 3>you've got to start running. There's no reason.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to rephrase this that they will don't run.

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<v Speaker 1>You really don't run in a panic, like you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I never run. I've never run for public chain. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a choice I made many years.

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<v Speaker 3>Ago my dignity, and I've done a routine about it

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<v Speaker 3>where there's always somebody on.

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<v Speaker 1>The train going, look at that fat fuck running for

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<v Speaker 1>a train, because I've been that person saying that same

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<v Speaker 1>thing about somebody else.

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<v Speaker 3>And everyone's like, why why are you saying?

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<v Speaker 2>Why loud?

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<v Speaker 1>But I when you have to do it and be

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<v Speaker 1>film doing it, you kind of think how do I

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<v Speaker 1>How do I run? I just run as I do?

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<v Speaker 1>But is it a character choice? How would the character

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<v Speaker 1>run or I'm just gonna run as I would run?

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<v Speaker 3>I would absolutely overthink it. I think my body would

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<v Speaker 3>collapse to the floor. Yeah, there'd be too many things

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<v Speaker 3>going on in my brain because I would think about

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<v Speaker 3>the hank. Do you do you do cruse hands where

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<v Speaker 3>they're just like like tiny sharp dinner plates next to you,

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<v Speaker 3>or do you do that because the sprint, yes, where

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<v Speaker 3>he uses his arms.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he really goes for it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I I think I'm sure I've run into scenes

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<v Speaker 1>almost like into a room where it's like it's not

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<v Speaker 1>really a full on sprint, it's just like the.

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<v Speaker 3>Like the cramer. Yes, you've done a Cramer.

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<v Speaker 2>I've done a Cramer. How to Stay Married?

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<v Speaker 1>I always try to enter through a door at pace

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<v Speaker 1>and pete this it seems a derivative.

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna cut around this. No, no, no, no, this is

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<v Speaker 3>the one.

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<v Speaker 1>This is definitely the one. These are all fun facts.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, I did look up like other highest films,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the most famous highst films, and there was

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<v Speaker 1>a list that I saw and this was at number fourteen,

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<v Speaker 1>top highest film. Some of the films that came after

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<v Speaker 1>it were The Italian Job, which is great. We've covered

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<v Speaker 1>that on this podcast. The Ocean Films, Heat Inception.

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<v Speaker 2>I Hate Reservoir.

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<v Speaker 1>Dogs, Bonnie and Clyde the Usual Suspects amazing. We've covered

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<v Speaker 1>that film as well. American Animals Is for those who

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<v Speaker 1>haven't seen, is a great heighst film that was about

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<v Speaker 1>ten years ago, like.

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<v Speaker 2>Independent film about an artist. It was great.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of the films in front of it, so below

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen we're dog Day Afternoon. Great film, A fish called Wonder.

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<v Speaker 3>I forgot about a fish Court.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we covered that with Xenro on this and the

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<v Speaker 1>movie that I actually watched a little bit of the.

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<v Speaker 2>Other night and I love it. One of David A.

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<v Speaker 2>Russell's early films, Three Kings.

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't seen.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a great film directed by David A. Russell.

1:20:06.080 --> 1:20:08.320
<v Speaker 1>Spike Jones is in it, who then goes on and directs,

1:20:08.360 --> 1:20:13.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, being John Malkovich and adaptation and George Clooney,

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<v Speaker 1>Ice Cube and Matt Wooburg and it's about it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the first films that I saw, kind of

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<v Speaker 1>set in the Iraq War, you know, and it's about

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<v Speaker 1>three soldiers, four actor soldiers, who decide to steal Saddam

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<v Speaker 1>Hussein's gold in the final days of the Iraq War.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a great film. It's it's really cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Other movies.

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<v Speaker 1>Another great film that may have You may have missed

1:20:36.800 --> 1:20:39.519
<v Speaker 1>Hell or High Water from about five years ago, a

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<v Speaker 1>great film as well. The Number and and and other

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<v Speaker 1>films I hadn't heard of, the Ashfelt Jungle, Friends.

1:20:48.400 --> 1:20:50.800
<v Speaker 2>Of Eddie Coyle, The Lady Killers.

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<v Speaker 1>Which there come Brothers three made a while ago, and

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<v Speaker 1>the Lavender Hill Mob. There's some films I had, the

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<v Speaker 1>older films that I haven't heard much about.

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<v Speaker 2>The Number one was.

1:20:59.320 --> 1:21:01.599
<v Speaker 1>A film we have it on this podcast with Josh Earl,

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<v Speaker 1>The Taking of Palham one two three, which was remade

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<v Speaker 1>with Denzel Washington in I reckon the Nineties.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's a train heist film. That's a good one.

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<v Speaker 2>That's good. It's Gene Hackman.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that's all. I love Gene the hack.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, The hack Man, the hack Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I love Geene Hackman so much that I deliberately avoid

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<v Speaker 1>hearing about what he's like because I heard. I heard,

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<v Speaker 1>I think through making some Wes Anderson films, The Royal

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<v Speaker 1>Tann and Arms, and he wasn't necessarily great to work with. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm just like, oh, well, I'm sure he was

1:21:35.800 --> 1:21:38.360
<v Speaker 1>just you know, you know, having a moment, but you

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<v Speaker 1>know it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Not Yeah, you don't want to meet your heroes.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta be very careful speaking of meeting your heroes.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw thank God you're here, the congratulations you stormed

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<v Speaker 1>it again and the look on your face and how

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<v Speaker 1>you handled it.

1:21:52.320 --> 1:21:53.679
<v Speaker 2>It made me laugh out loud.

1:21:55.280 --> 1:21:59.960
<v Speaker 1>Russell Coit appears you're in like a hospital and they

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<v Speaker 1>pull back a curtain. There's another patient you need to see,

1:22:02.960 --> 1:22:06.280
<v Speaker 1>and it's Glenn Robins, the Great Glenn Robins as Russell

1:22:06.360 --> 1:22:10.200
<v Speaker 1>Koy And what was I mean? You don't expect celebrity

1:22:10.240 --> 1:22:13.679
<v Speaker 1>cameos in thank You'd never know what's about to happen

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<v Speaker 1>on that show.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and they're pushing it more and more and more.

1:22:17.800 --> 1:22:20.960
<v Speaker 1>I've been honored to I was I did it in

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<v Speaker 1>its first incarnation, and I was a judge last year

1:22:23.240 --> 1:22:25.960
<v Speaker 1>and I'm judging again this year in an episode it's

1:22:25.960 --> 1:22:29.720
<v Speaker 1>such a thrill and in honor to be involved. And

1:22:29.760 --> 1:22:33.880
<v Speaker 1>then Jes pushing it more and more and the Haveitlenn.

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<v Speaker 3>Was so oh my god, I literally got dizzy, like

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<v Speaker 3>I like I I didn't say this, but because the

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<v Speaker 3>when I was Heidi, who's one of the incredible like

1:22:44.160 --> 1:22:46.640
<v Speaker 3>actors as part of the Thank God the Troupe was

1:22:46.680 --> 1:22:48.200
<v Speaker 3>lying in the bed and I turned around and I

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<v Speaker 3>saw this little feet dangling behind the curtain, and just

1:22:51.200 --> 1:22:53.000
<v Speaker 3>very quickly I went out, there's a guy there. But

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't think anything of it because there's so much happening.

1:22:55.400 --> 1:22:58.000
<v Speaker 3>And then they pull the curtain back and I see

1:22:58.080 --> 1:23:02.000
<v Speaker 3>Russell Coy and I screamed, and I start dancing like

1:23:02.040 --> 1:23:05.960
<v Speaker 3>a toddler because my body is too overwhelmed. But I

1:23:06.800 --> 1:23:08.320
<v Speaker 3>looked at him and it was one of those outer

1:23:08.360 --> 1:23:10.800
<v Speaker 3>body experiences where I just got dizzy. I didn't hear

1:23:10.880 --> 1:23:13.800
<v Speaker 3>anything because I just went that's Glennom.

1:23:15.200 --> 1:23:15.599
<v Speaker 2>Going wrong.

1:23:16.240 --> 1:23:19.080
<v Speaker 3>I my mom and my brother and I used to

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<v Speaker 3>watch all those The Adventures all the time, like Kath

1:23:22.360 --> 1:23:26.080
<v Speaker 3>and Kim absolutely like stands loved it. And then I

1:23:26.120 --> 1:23:27.439
<v Speaker 3>just watched it and I was just like ah. And

1:23:27.479 --> 1:23:29.800
<v Speaker 3>then but this was the thing, because I was like,

1:23:29.880 --> 1:23:33.120
<v Speaker 3>that was amazing. And then going backstage and he's just

1:23:33.120 --> 1:23:35.160
<v Speaker 3>sitting there, hey going Frankie, and I was like, oh no,

1:23:35.479 --> 1:23:38.000
<v Speaker 3>I wasn't ready for this speed. I thought, you just

1:23:38.479 --> 1:23:42.920
<v Speaker 3>like dissolve no. And then I had to have a

1:23:43.040 --> 1:23:46.240
<v Speaker 3>conversation where God, I hope I was normal. I hope

1:23:46.240 --> 1:23:47.320
<v Speaker 3>I probably wasn't.

1:23:48.280 --> 1:23:50.559
<v Speaker 1>I think Glenn's probably used to it a little bit

1:23:50.720 --> 1:23:52.960
<v Speaker 1>like but I'm sure you were. I'm sure you were.

1:23:53.000 --> 1:23:55.800
<v Speaker 1>And Glenny's so lovely and here's one of my absolutely

1:23:55.800 --> 1:23:57.920
<v Speaker 1>heroes and I go back him further with him, I'm

1:23:57.920 --> 1:24:01.960
<v Speaker 1>a comedy company and yeah and all that. So I

1:24:02.680 --> 1:24:06.080
<v Speaker 1>it's always a joy to be in his presence for me,

1:24:06.160 --> 1:24:08.439
<v Speaker 1>as all the working Dog people as well, you know,

1:24:08.560 --> 1:24:11.960
<v Speaker 1>Rob and Santo and Tom and all of them, Jane

1:24:12.000 --> 1:24:18.040
<v Speaker 1>and it's incredible. But he Yeah, he's this amazing career

1:24:18.080 --> 1:24:22.519
<v Speaker 1>where he means something different to almost each ten years

1:24:22.520 --> 1:24:24.840
<v Speaker 1>he's had something like comedy company, then Kathin Kim and

1:24:24.880 --> 1:24:27.760
<v Speaker 1>then Russell Koit like, yeah, very few people have that,

1:24:29.040 --> 1:24:33.160
<v Speaker 1>you know that many cracks like creating something that is

1:24:33.200 --> 1:24:34.639
<v Speaker 1>long lasting and has legacy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I think like the amount of people who

1:24:37.040 --> 1:24:39.639
<v Speaker 3>are like friends of mine who messaged me and were

1:24:39.720 --> 1:24:42.200
<v Speaker 3>just like what the hell, I'm like, yeah, he's got

1:24:42.240 --> 1:24:45.960
<v Speaker 3>such a hold on just like the entire Australian comedy

1:24:46.000 --> 1:24:50.280
<v Speaker 3>world of just everyone freaking out because he's just he's

1:24:50.280 --> 1:24:53.240
<v Speaker 3>done so much and he's so funny. And then we

1:24:53.240 --> 1:24:57.120
<v Speaker 3>were like chatting about just what like the Melbourne comedy

1:24:57.160 --> 1:25:01.320
<v Speaker 3>scene was like in terms of it was it used

1:25:01.320 --> 1:25:02.640
<v Speaker 3>to be. He said that he was doing it was

1:25:02.720 --> 1:25:05.000
<v Speaker 3>very much cabaret and like you'd have a lot of

1:25:05.080 --> 1:25:08.040
<v Speaker 3>characters you've had, like, yeah, like full variety rather than

1:25:08.080 --> 1:25:11.640
<v Speaker 3>it just being stand up. Yeah, and I feel like

1:25:11.720 --> 1:25:14.040
<v Speaker 3>that's happening a little bit more now, which is so cool.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, it was just wild and just straight away

1:25:18.439 --> 1:25:20.840
<v Speaker 3>just like had to call mom and be like, Mom,

1:25:20.960 --> 1:25:24.599
<v Speaker 3>don't don't say anything. You can't do the thing where

1:25:24.640 --> 1:25:27.920
<v Speaker 3>you say that and then you tell everyone, and yeah,

1:25:27.960 --> 1:25:30.240
<v Speaker 3>she freaked out. She was like, oh my god, what

1:25:30.240 --> 1:25:31.160
<v Speaker 3>do you mean, what's you like?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you tended to like maybe go over and watch

1:25:34.600 --> 1:25:38.479
<v Speaker 1>it with her and let's see her reaction it happened,

1:25:38.600 --> 1:25:40.559
<v Speaker 1>or you're probably too excited to you just needed to.

1:25:41.080 --> 1:25:44.040
<v Speaker 3>She's in camera and I'm in Melbow, so we couldn't.

1:25:44.200 --> 1:25:47.840
<v Speaker 3>But she messaged me straight away, but just one of

1:25:47.840 --> 1:25:50.679
<v Speaker 3>those mom messages going I thought you were very good

1:25:51.560 --> 1:25:55.480
<v Speaker 3>and look at Russell and I was like, oh, thank you.

1:25:55.479 --> 1:25:58.080
<v Speaker 1>But you had it so because you were like you

1:25:58.240 --> 1:26:02.400
<v Speaker 1>still had one hand and one foot in the scene

1:26:02.800 --> 1:26:05.160
<v Speaker 1>and one foot in the this is I'm having a

1:26:05.200 --> 1:26:08.759
<v Speaker 1>moment as a as a comedian, here as a moment,

1:26:08.800 --> 1:26:11.479
<v Speaker 1>and it was. It was actually a joy to watch

1:26:11.520 --> 1:26:16.200
<v Speaker 1>you straddle that moment and you can see the adrenaline

1:26:16.240 --> 1:26:18.800
<v Speaker 1>that was going through on the surprise and the shock

1:26:18.920 --> 1:26:21.800
<v Speaker 1>it was. If you haven't seen it beyond ten play,

1:26:21.840 --> 1:26:25.479
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure check it out. But mate, this this comes

1:26:25.479 --> 1:26:28.160
<v Speaker 1>with homework, this this podcast. You have done it to

1:26:28.760 --> 1:26:31.280
<v Speaker 1>a very high degree. Thank you so much for spending

1:26:31.320 --> 1:26:35.800
<v Speaker 1>time both watching the movie and with me. You are

1:26:36.040 --> 1:26:39.040
<v Speaker 1>absolutely killing it. We've gigged together quite a few times

1:26:39.120 --> 1:26:42.840
<v Speaker 1>and you're always a joy to watch. And hopefully there's

1:26:42.840 --> 1:26:44.160
<v Speaker 1>many more gigs we get to do.

1:26:44.360 --> 1:26:46.240
<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much for having me the gift of

1:26:46.280 --> 1:26:49.040
<v Speaker 3>being able to watch a movie I hadn't seen. That

1:26:49.240 --> 1:26:51.920
<v Speaker 3>was just a highlight. I was so excited. This has

1:26:51.960 --> 1:26:53.559
<v Speaker 3>been so nice. Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Your frank.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes so good. I just wanted to hear it again

1:27:14.760 --> 1:27:18.280
<v Speaker 1>and again. So simple, but I enjoyed that very much,

1:27:19.439 --> 1:27:25.599
<v Speaker 1>both a score and chatting to Frankie McNair. So glad

1:27:26.400 --> 1:27:32.839
<v Speaker 1>Frankie enjoyed the movie. Like I said, because Frankie plays

1:27:32.880 --> 1:27:37.840
<v Speaker 1>his Tabitha Booth character, I thought she may have a

1:27:37.960 --> 1:27:42.960
<v Speaker 1>love or a penchant for old Hollywood, and I think

1:27:43.000 --> 1:27:46.320
<v Speaker 1>I was right. I think I was right. Frankie is amazing.

1:27:46.720 --> 1:27:51.040
<v Speaker 1>Whenever you see Frankie's name on a bill, get there,

1:27:51.560 --> 1:27:56.320
<v Speaker 1>Get there. Very funny, very funny, very talented. It's a

1:27:56.360 --> 1:27:59.040
<v Speaker 1>real joy to have her joining me today. If you're

1:27:59.120 --> 1:28:01.200
<v Speaker 1>enjoying the show, see nothing yet it comes to you

1:28:01.240 --> 1:28:03.200
<v Speaker 1>for free. You don't pay a single thing for it.

1:28:03.320 --> 1:28:09.320
<v Speaker 1>So I do ask that you can go to our

1:28:09.840 --> 1:28:12.200
<v Speaker 1>iTunes on our iTunes, nothing to do with it, to

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<v Speaker 1>be honest, but the iTunes page and give us a

1:28:15.240 --> 1:28:17.680
<v Speaker 1>rating and a review. I recommend five stars. But this

1:28:17.800 --> 1:28:21.200
<v Speaker 1>is a democracy, so do what you like and you

1:28:21.240 --> 1:28:24.960
<v Speaker 1>can leave a review, and it just helps the algorithm

1:28:25.080 --> 1:28:28.320
<v Speaker 1>move in a certain direction. The right direction for us

1:28:28.360 --> 1:28:31.920
<v Speaker 1>gets the word out there, which we love to do.

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<v Speaker 1>The podcast is doing very well. We're years into this now.

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<v Speaker 1>It's amazing. We're up over one hundred and fifty shows. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely loving it. Somebody left their review just recently, Meghan.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you Meghan for leaving a five star review. She says,

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast is wonderful. I love this podcast, thoughtful and

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<v Speaker 1>funny reviews. Ellia is a genuine film lover and a

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<v Speaker 1>generous interviewer.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. Meghan for that.

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<v Speaker 1>We also had Brad say great podcast with enjoyable chats,

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<v Speaker 1>Pete picks excellent guests Yes I think I do, who

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<v Speaker 1>are generally laid and interesting. Discussion around favorite films has

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<v Speaker 1>sent me back to watch movies I haven't seen. Excellent podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you very much. I do love doing this podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>And one more from Debia Yasney rocks. I'm discovering how

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<v Speaker 1>much i love the detail and nuance of movies. I've

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<v Speaker 1>watched dozens of featured films after the episode to remind

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<v Speaker 1>me of what I loved or missed out on the

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<v Speaker 1>first time around. Enhances my film enjoyment no end.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Also this goes on to say, first of all, Yasney

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<v Speaker 1>live at Grapes of Mirth and binged all I could.

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<v Speaker 1>Straight after that, my perception of films and filmmaking forever reset.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks Pete and your marvelous lineup of talent. Thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>and the guests are so good. And next week we

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<v Speaker 1>have an absolute beauty. We have a comedian whose star

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<v Speaker 1>has been rising for quite a few years now. You

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<v Speaker 1>may have seen him on The hundred with Andy Lee.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Goldstein will be in the studio with me and

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<v Speaker 1>he will be covering a film which I've been wanting

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<v Speaker 1>to do for a long time. That's right, Mike Goldstein

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<v Speaker 1>will be covering The Big Chill. People have recommended or

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<v Speaker 1>suggested or asked, and we are delivering that for you

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<v Speaker 1>next week with Mike Goldstein. Until then, buck an.

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<v Speaker 2>Out, and so we leave old Pete save fan soul,

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<v Speaker 2>and

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<v Speaker 1>To our friends of the radio audience, we've been a

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<v Speaker 1>pleasant good name.