1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,240 Speaker 1: Well, as we've been discussing this morning, Saint Vincent de 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: Paul's Osnam House. We know that it moved from Stuart 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: Park to Coconut Grove last year, which was to be 4 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 1: a temporary move until a permanent site was secured. Now, 5 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: over the weekend we learned that a development application has 6 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: been lodged to extend the current lease to September twenty 7 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: twenty nine. The community have gone up until midnight night, 8 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: i should say, on Friday, the seventh of November, to 9 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: make the public comment on that application. Now joining us 10 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 1: on the line is Saint Vinnie's NT CEO, Rob Latter. 11 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Rob, Hi Katie. How are you 12 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 2: hoping you had a nice weekend? 13 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, really good, hope you did as well. Now, Rob, 14 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 3: thank you. 15 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: First off, how has the service been going in Coconut 16 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: Grove From Saint Vincent de Paul's perspective, he has been 17 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 1: going well. 18 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 2: We're getting up to about one hundred clients third day 19 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 2: coming in. We're obviously providing that wraparound care that we do. 20 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 2: Generally our client's middle A couples and some families. We 21 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 2: have older people there as well, and obviously we look 22 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 2: after their health concerns. We provide food and wrap around 23 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:15,559 Speaker 2: services in partnership with Larache Nation Den, Dilbar Services Australia, 24 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 2: Darwin Legal Services. So the service itself is going well. 25 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 2: We're obviously mindful of our neighbors and we have been 26 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 2: outwardly sending out mail drops and knockdoor knocking to ensure 27 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 2: that what we're providing is an effect our neighbors. And 28 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 2: we're also making sure that the clients are getting back 29 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 2: on the buses and out of Coconut Grow back to 30 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 2: where they're staying. 31 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: Rob How many like in terms of the clients, about 32 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: one hundred clients per day. How does that compared to 33 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: when the service was in Stuart Park. 34 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 2: Yes, about the same as the slight drop, but not major. 35 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 2: We generally the clients are using the bus services to 36 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 2: get to us. So yeah, it's it's been good. And 37 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 2: obviously Lark has also been as system with transport as well. 38 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: I know we did just catch up with somebody who 39 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: lives in the area who feels quite different, you know, 40 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: following on from the news that you are going to 41 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: need to stay there until September twenty twenty nine. Well, 42 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: first off, maybe give us some detail about how come 43 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: Vinie is having to stay there now in Coconut Grove 44 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: until twenty twenty nine from your perspective. 45 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, So when we first went through this process with 46 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 2: the DCA over a year and a half ago, we 47 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 2: asked for three to five years and the DCA said 48 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 2: they will allow us two years. We always knew that 49 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 2: at some point we're going to have to ask for 50 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 2: extension because negotiations with the Northern Territory government on a 51 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 2: news site is underway. We are expecting announcements by an 52 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,399 Speaker 2: Northern Territory government and that should happen early next year. 53 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 2: But at the moment that I mean, we are looking 54 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 2: at a new site. It's a permanent location and we're 55 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 2: have being negotiating for the last year with Northern Territory 56 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 2: to make that happen, and it is progressing. We are 57 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 2: getting there and we expect an announcement early next year. 58 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 2: But not only that, it's not just this simple case 59 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 2: of moving on the house. As you can see when 60 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 2: you drive past, the facilities are temporary. There are dongas 61 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 2: and shelters and things like that. They can be moved, 62 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 2: they're designed to move. But when we get a new site, 63 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 2: we're going to have to happen infrastructure in place before 64 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 2: we move, so that's roading, power, water, sewerage, storm water, 65 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 2: and obviously that needs to be built as well. So 66 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 2: we figured that it's better that we are after this extension. Now. 67 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 2: We don't envisage that we need the full amount of time, 68 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 2: but we just want to make sure there's a bit 69 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 2: of a there's a with construction, there can be delays 70 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 2: and things like that, so we're making sure that that's 71 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 2: factored into it. 72 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: So you're hoping that it won't you won't actually need 73 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: the full two years. 74 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 2: The full three years. We are hoping that is the case, 75 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 2: but we just want to factor in a little bit 76 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 2: of buffer just in case, because I mean, we don't 77 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 2: want to go through this process again. 78 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I know that people living in there. Yeah, 79 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 3: people living in the area feel a bit the same. Yeah. 80 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: Look, I did speak to a business owner earlier this morning. 81 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: She's really quite concerned about the extension. She said that, 82 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 1: you know, the moving of Osnam House from Stuart Park 83 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 1: to Coconut Grove has had an impact. She reckons that 84 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: along her street, you know, all the windows of cars 85 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: have been broken, that there has been an increase in 86 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: anti social behavior. She went so far as to say that, 87 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 1: you know, even when she's called Larakia to try and 88 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: get some support that they've said, well, it's not their responsibility. 89 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 3: She needs to call the police. 90 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 1: You know. I know there's a few issues there in 91 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: what I've just said, but fundament you know, she is 92 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 1: one of the people who've been in contact. We've got 93 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: some real concerns. What do you say to those that 94 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: are feeling quite worried about this extension? 95 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 2: So, as I said, we are mindful of our clients. 96 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 2: We our feedback has been you know, and as I said, 97 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 2: we've done mail drops, we have an email and a 98 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 2: call line that people can and give us a call 99 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 2: on and we've we've only had six over the last 100 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 2: year that have responded and we have responded back to 101 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 2: those inquiries. So from our from our feedback, we've had 102 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 2: six thus far and you know, we we will respond 103 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 2: to those when we get them. So we want to 104 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 2: be proactive. Obviously, we've been in the community and taking 105 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 2: out growth now for thirty years with our other facilities there, 106 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 2: and we'll be there long after the Osham House is 107 00:05:55,920 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 2: moving because we obviously have you know, our other facilities 108 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 2: that work out of there. So we do want to 109 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 2: be good neighbors, and we want to make sure that 110 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 2: our clients are doing the right thing as well. 111 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: And Rob to those that feel as though, you know, 112 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: the clients aren't always doing the right thing and that 113 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: they are creating further issues. You know, for people in 114 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: Coconut Grove and Nightcliff. You know, obviously they need to 115 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: call the police if there is a criminal issue, But 116 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: are you saying that they can get in contact with 117 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: Vinnie's if you know, if you're seeing an onflow of 118 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:31,799 Speaker 1: bad behavior. 119 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 2: That's that's correct. We and our mail drop it. It 120 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 2: has got the email contact, so we monitor that daily 121 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 2: and as well as I believe there's a phone number 122 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 2: there as well. But we do have the email that 123 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 2: they can email us directly, and we monitor that on 124 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 2: a daily basis to ensure that we are doing the 125 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 2: right thing for our neighbors. 126 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 1: Rob, is there a bit of a lack of coordinat 127 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: coordination across the services, you know, in terms of Larichia 128 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: and and Vinnie's, you know, patrolling that area or sort 129 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: of keeping an eye on things. 130 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 2: No, I mean, Lara Kiir are out and about in 131 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 2: that area. Obviously, their head office is just down the road. 132 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 2: They are a proactive on a daily basis throughout Darwin, 133 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 2: so you know they are there, and they do have 134 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 2: their call line that you can ring, and they do 135 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 2: attend from what I see, So yeah, I'm confident that's 136 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 2: still happening. 137 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: Rob, I understand that Vinny's that you guys will you 138 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: also have plans I thought for interim accommodation in partnership 139 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: with Lara Kiir Nation. 140 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 3: Where is that up to? Yeah, where's that act? 141 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 2: So that's the next stage. So we're looking at a site. 142 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 2: We're in negotiations with Northern Churchary Government on that. So 143 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 2: that'll be a facility. There'll be purpose built first stages, 144 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 2: moving on some the house second stages as the start 145 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 2: of the build of accommodation facility that'll have wrap around 146 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 2: services associated with it. But obviously the prime thing is 147 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 2: to find a site and we're very close to being 148 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 2: able to announce a site where an Orlentarify Gump will 149 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 2: be announcing the site. Okay, I suspect that will be 150 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 2: an early next year and then we go from there. 151 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 2: But we know we're mindful of our neighbors. We understand 152 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 2: the impacts that some of our clients may or may 153 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 2: not have. It could be a perception as well, and 154 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 2: that we have our email if people need to contact 155 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 2: us directly and we'll will attend to and talk to 156 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 2: the people about their concerns. 157 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: Now, where is the development at with the old Stuart 158 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: Park site. 159 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, so at the moment, we're looking at a affordable 160 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 2: housing block there. So we're looking up to about thirty 161 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 2: two one and two bisroom units and we are in 162 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 2: the process of putting an application into Housing Australia for funding. 163 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 3: For that and it'll be so it'll be more affordable housing. 164 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 3: Is that correct? Or how's that one going to work? 165 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: Yeah? 166 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 2: That's right. So what it is is because of a 167 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 2: charity make sure that we provide affordable housing. We're housing 168 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 2: Tier two housing provider and we would give market rate 169 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 2: minus twenty five percent. 170 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: Yeah right, okay, And so how soon are you expecting 171 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 1: that that one's going to potentially get up and running. 172 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 3: It sounds like it's still a while away. 173 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, again it's the case of once to give 174 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:40,599 Speaker 2: the applications and then then the federal government approving application 175 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 2: and then we go from there. So it can take 176 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 2: a little bit of time, and we definitely want that 177 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 2: up and running because I mean that will help the 178 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 2: housing crisis as well, and it will be you know, 179 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 2: obviously for people that who are doctors, nurses, police and 180 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 2: anyone who looking for housing, even people in hospitality that 181 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 2: sort of thing. We are working but who cannot afford 182 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 2: to get rental property. So we're looking at that market. 183 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 3: Rob. 184 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: A couple of people just asking if they are able 185 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: to get that email that they can get in contact 186 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: with you guys about if there is an issue around 187 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: the area where vineasy have you got Do you happen 188 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: to have that on you? 189 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 3: That's all right, sorry, follow it up. 190 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 2: I'm not prepared for I will follow you up. I can. 191 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 2: I can text it through to you. 192 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, that'd be wonderful and we'll Yeah, that'd be wonderful 193 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: and we will let people know. Rob, Saint Vinnie's nt CEO. 194 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: I appreciate your time this morning. Just before I let 195 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: you go, though, do we have I know it's the 196 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:48,959 Speaker 1: government's going to be the government's announcement, but have we 197 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: got an idea of where the site might be that 198 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 1: OSNOM house is going to move to or is it 199 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: really sort. 200 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 3: Of up in the air at this point. 201 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 2: It is a negotiation as all. I'll have a bit 202 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 2: of a political bench on this. I'll leave it up 203 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 2: to the NCY government to make that announcement, but it 204 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 2: is close. I suspect you'll hear something early next year. 205 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:15,959 Speaker 1: All right, Well, Rob, good to speak to you. I 206 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: appreciate your time. Thank you very much for joining us. 207 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 3: On the show. 208 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, Katie, thank you.