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Speaker 1: the Lord Mayor Conbat Scarless. Good morning to you, Corn.

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Speaker 2: Good morning Katie.

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Speaker 1: Con I appreciate your time this morning because I know

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm out of hospital. Unfortunately the pain followed me

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 2: Corn.

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Speaker 1: We wish you all the very best in terms of

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Speaker 1: your recovery. Now we are hearing this morning, Corn that

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Speaker 1: the VIP unveiling of the Kinetic sculpture has been canceled.

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Speaker 1: Is that the case?

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Speaker 2: It is very, very unfortunate, Katie. I know you asked

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Speaker 1: So will the Prime Minister be attending any of the

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Speaker 1: fiftieth anniversary events for Cyclone Tracing.

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Speaker 2: My understanding is, and I shouldn't speak more about it

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Speaker 2: It's something I can understand. We've got French family. If

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Speaker 2: The appointing we're looking forward to to see the Prime Minister.

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Speaker 2: I send the personally vitation to him. But at the

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Speaker 2: Not at all, a Katie. We invited a very small

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Speaker 1: Con There is a call this morning. We spoke to

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Speaker 2: From the very beginning, I told you that was not

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Speaker 2: We've been dealing with an incorporated body. Well, Anthony Bullock

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Speaker 1: Look, ykone though, is you know, like we all read

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Speaker 2: Three hundred thousand dollars were given to reach a clerzwork

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Speaker 2: And the monument you say in Vadilla Beach is that

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Speaker 1: Some are calling for you to stand down as the

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Speaker 2: No, no councilor palmers to that, And very clearly Space

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Speaker 2: Now here they haven't. The letters that I've got is well,

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Speaker 1: it wanted to be zoned as community use. Now the

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Speaker 1: that is going to mean. Were residents in the area

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Speaker 2: Look, there was consultation about before and we had a

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Speaker 2: report put to council that the all Care Taket house

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Speaker 2: is zoned and be disposed of and the money to

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Speaker 2: be that we would get from that to put in

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Speaker 2: an account. So there was only a huguer community development

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Speaker 2: that should actually go to that development. During the debate,

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Speaker 2: the Council at Smell and More goan to recard move

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Speaker 2: an amendment, not to sell it, but to rezone it

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Speaker 2: for community purposes. As you know, council operates in themocratic principles,

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Speaker 2: and five councilors voted for it. Myself, Councrol, Palma, Panquee

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Speaker 2: and Boos vote against him, explaining that it was not

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Speaker 2: a good idea. First of all, resigning it was very

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Speaker 2: difficult and will cost money to counsel and also trying

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Speaker 2: to renovate will cost counsel to cost money to cancel

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Speaker 2: and other people that are concerned. The council has not

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Speaker 2: But as I said, council operates democratic principles were four,

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Speaker 2: there were five, and they wanted but again there's a

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Speaker 2: long way to go, and there are always ways of

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Speaker 2: going back and review this decision.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think it's going to need to be gone

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Speaker 1: because like the fact is all of the residents on

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Speaker 1: concerned about what this could actually become.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can understand that, but even well, whatever it becomes,

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Speaker 2: he has to come back to council for any decision,

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Speaker 2: and council will actually decide about it. But as I

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Speaker 2: do you before, at the moment five against four were

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Speaker 2: in the minority. We've got for expression of vendors. But

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Speaker 2: even when it comes back, it would be thoroughly examined,

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Speaker 2: and I'm pretty sure the four of us, it probably

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Speaker 2: would be some of them. The others would change opinion

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Speaker 2: when they see the cost and what else cost tender

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Speaker 1: So to those that voted for these to become community purpose.

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Speaker 1: So ultimately, from what we heard from residents, five of

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Speaker 1: white house, it could become a house where prisoners go

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Speaker 1: when they get, you know, out of jail. All of

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Speaker 1: those things are obviously required in the community. But why,

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Speaker 1: of having a community like having that that residence converted

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Speaker 1: to that. You know, when you've already got around the

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Speaker 1: Parp area around Perpp Village there are anti social issues

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Speaker 1: from time to time. You've got residents that actually live

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Speaker 1: did any of those aldermen that actually voted for this

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Speaker 2: I always say to people, you know who your local

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Speaker 2: alderman is, pick up the phone and ring them and

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Speaker 2: express your views strong views against it, because at the

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Speaker 2: end of the day, I can't do anything about it.

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Speaker 2: I'm the mayor who got one of votes like everybody else.

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Speaker 2: But we were four opposits for our reasons, and we

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Speaker 2: explain why the other five they went ahead with it

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Speaker 2: they wanted, but nothing stopped a local resent speak to me,

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Speaker 2: speak to Councrol Parma, speak to Councerol, pank wee, speak

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Speaker 2: to puns to Concerol smell and concerol recard about it

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Speaker 2: and everybody else and express their frustrations.

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Speaker 1: So did I say so Coin? Obviously you, Counselor Palmer

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Speaker 1: and Counselor Pankue have voted with you know, with what

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Speaker 1: to have happened, which is for it to be a

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Speaker 1: residential home. But with the others, what are they proposing

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Speaker 1: that it actually be used as?

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Speaker 2: No, no, we can't propose what they didn't propose what

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Speaker 2: you use for. They actually got asked to go for

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Speaker 2: expression of vendors. To their credit, they didn't say it

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Speaker 2: has to be this or the other. At the end

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Speaker 2: of the day, they can't. It has to come back

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Speaker 2: to council, to full council for this use to be made.

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Speaker 2: The only thing they wanted to go to expressional veindors. Again,

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Speaker 2: as I did you before, I'm all in favorable going

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Speaker 2: to experimental windors if it's going to benefits to council

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Speaker 2: and the local community. But to go for experial leaders

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Speaker 2: just for the sake of going to expression windors, I

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Speaker 2: think it's not a very good affect.

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Speaker 1: That home is. Also it's actually on the land? Is

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Speaker 1: it actually on the land that's the pool land as well.

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Speaker 2: It has to be resonned. It has to be resoned

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Speaker 2: to go through the rezoning process in DCA. It will

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Speaker 2: cost council money. There was no reason to spend extra money.

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Speaker 1: Why would you Why would they go down that path

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Speaker 1: of its costing council money?

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Speaker 2: Well, the year before, Kate, you can put a question

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Speaker 2: to them, call them on your program and put the

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Speaker 2: question to them, because as I do you before, it's

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Speaker 2: a democratic We have are obliged and I have to

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Speaker 2: abide by the nothern territory government legislation. We operate on

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Speaker 2: democratic principles. Despite our best efforts, they wanted well.

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Speaker 1: Coln, the Lord Mayor of Darwin Combat Scholars. I appreciate

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Speaker 1: your time this morning. All the very best with your recovery.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for joining a conversife. Thank you