1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,599 Speaker 1: David Handley's joining us. No, good morning, David. 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 2: Hey David, good morning guys. 3 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: How you doing good? 4 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 3: Sculpture by the Sea back March the first to the 5 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 3: eighteenth of the Cottaslo Beach. It is the twentieth anniversary. 6 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 3: Was there ever any doubt David that we would be 7 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 3: talking about it still twenty years down the track. 8 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, a couple of heart attacks, blood pressure. No, it's 9 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 4: done real being here, I mean, yeah, issues the minds 10 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 4: of your mortality. I was thirty eight when I started. 11 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 2: David stopped exactly, but one of. 12 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 4: The artists was kind enough to look back at what 13 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 4: I wrote for the first exhibition catalog saying, I hope 14 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 4: the people of Perth will make this exhibition what they 15 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 4: want it to be. And that's exactly what's happened. And 16 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 4: that's the essence of Sculpture by the Sea, that we 17 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 4: set it up in a way that people respond to 18 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 4: it as and how they want. 19 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 5: It's all ages too, is David to say, the kids 20 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 5: that wonder in the kids' faces and they hit on 21 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 5: those school groups, and that is that's the starting age. 22 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 2: Starting point, isn't It's beautiful? 23 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: The Tiny Tots tours, Yeah. 24 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 5: And school groups is as well with Laurie Benger. She 25 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 5: used to take kids in there and they just love it. 26 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's nearly forty thousand school kids from across Perth 27 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 4: and regional w A who'd come through our schools program, 28 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 4: our correspondor that for the year one. They're still with 29 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 4: us twenty years later. That's been a huge thing. A 30 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 4: number of schools get three workshops for the artists each 31 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 4: year and everyone who participates in that it's highly subsidized. 32 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 4: But yes, we have Tiny Tots Tours this year which 33 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 4: is a wonderful initiative for pre preschoolers and you're absolutely 34 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 4: right that sense of wonderment on the face of a 35 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 4: child as they walk around. For them, it's a fantasy land. 36 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 2: The sculptures of the. 37 00:01:53,680 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 4: Hul Pre leaders five for us a larger for children 38 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 4: and place. And about those five so years ago we 39 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 4: started to have the young artists coming through who would 40 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,239 Speaker 4: say to us, I became an artist and architect and 41 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 4: designer because of my fascination with sculpture by the sea, 42 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 4: stretching back to primary school. 43 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:17,279 Speaker 2: That's insational. 44 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: So how many artists and pieces of worker involved this CM. 45 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 4: Seventy one sculptures and from artists from fourteen countries around 46 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 4: the world that all had nearly six hundred artists from 47 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 4: forty four countries create just under thirteen one hundred sculptures 48 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 4: over the twenty years. 49 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 2: Wow, So that's amazing, what a role called phenomenal. 50 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 4: And two of them have been in every show. Ron Gombok, 51 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 4: who's got the Gomboc Gallery and Sculpture Park down at 52 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 4: Middle Swam and Cazo Show from Japan have been in 53 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 4: every one of those twenty shows. But like all of 54 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 4: the shows, we've got a huge number of artists who've 55 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 4: never been in this year, who've never been in one 56 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 4: of our exhibitions before. 57 00:02:58,280 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: And am I right only one pinch? 58 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 4: Well, yes, thank you for bringing that up. 59 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 2: Sorry David, Yeah, it does. 60 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 4: And actually we brought that artist back this year. He's 61 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:19,679 Speaker 4: so loved I loved Sculpture by the Sea that he said, yep, 62 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 4: I'd like to be in the twentieth anniversary. We've flown 63 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 4: We've flown him out and he wants people to know 64 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 4: that there's no ill feeling. How this was handled by 65 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 4: the families and the boys themselves at the time after 66 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 4: the initial incident was and you know Columbarnett was great. 67 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 4: I don't know if you remember. He arranged for a 68 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 4: replacement sculpture to be submissioned and put into the Art 69 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 4: gallery of w A. And we actually initially had some 70 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 4: really bad media playing in China about this. They called it, 71 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 4: They called it a racist attack on China. No, it 72 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 4: was really be deal and all of this stuff turned 73 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 4: it around and it ended up playing. 74 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 5: Well, Yeah, it was fulish praying, wasn't it at the 75 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 5: end of the day. 76 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 2: Not right? 77 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 4: But well, I think we've all done something which we 78 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 4: got away with. Most of us got away with in 79 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 4: those years. I certainly did one or to. 80 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 2: Maybe not quite. But it's impossible. 81 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 5: Made of all those and all those magical pieces of art, 82 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 5: is it possible for you to have a favorite? Can 83 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 5: you do you have a favorite child amongst them? Or 84 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 5: is it just too hard to do? 85 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 4: You know what I reckon? It's a couple of works 86 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 4: by Norton Flavelle, because he made his name, or the 87 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 4: start of making his name, a sculpture by the sea, 88 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 4: and he did all Carrier, commonly known as the goon Bag. 89 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 90 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 4: Then a couple of years later he did the sculpture 91 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 4: of the Giant Hand, which was Gofitlum's hand pouring the 92 00:04:53,720 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 4: red dirt hands and to have one artist come up 93 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 4: with two such iconic Australian works of art, yeah, and 94 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 4: be so different. That for me represents what we're offering 95 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 4: the artists. So we started this conversation about what this 96 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 4: show offers the public and how to respond. That's a 97 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 4: great example of how the artists have responded to this. 98 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 3: And I love I love any of the ones that 99 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 3: take advantage of the incredible sunset and so on the 100 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 3: location where it is. 101 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: We are very lucky in that respect. 102 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 3: I mean this happens on the East Coast as well, 103 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 3: but they don't get the sun going down like we 104 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 3: do at Coutoslow Beach. 105 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 4: Well, let's go even further afield than that person got 106 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 4: the best sunset, so I reckon the best light. 107 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 2: Yes, and that is one of. 108 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 4: The features that makes excuse me the Condoslow show is 109 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 4: so special. But what the geography of the site with 110 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 4: the groin where you've basically got those sculptures one hundred 111 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 4: meters out to see with nothing around them except for 112 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 4: a couple of rocks, and the natural antitheater where you're 113 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 4: looking down or across to those sculptures with the sunset 114 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 4: and right behind them. It's just insane and beautiful. 115 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 2: That's magic. Yeah, I love it. 116 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:18,239 Speaker 4: Thank you for your support. 117 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 2: Pleasure we've been doing, David. 118 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: It's been a pleasure. 119 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 2: It is. 120 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 3: It's just it is just one of the greatest. You know, 121 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 3: a couple of weeks down on the beach every year. 122 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 3: It is the twentieth anniversary of the exhibition. People still 123 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 3: calling it Sculptures by the Sea. Your time is your readers. 124 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 6: It's readers everybody right right, Yeah, they reinforce it and yes, 125 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 6: moving right along from about No, that's my. 126 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 3: Pleasure, David, because I am the grammins. I tell everyone 127 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 3: they platform it is Sculpture by the Sea. March the 128 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 3: first to the at the cot Uslow Beach. David, Happy 129 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 3: twenty year anniversary. 130 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 4: Thanks you can I do you one quick too quick 131 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 4: shout out. Yeah. So firstly, we went back for big 132 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 4: time with federal funding. We went from half a million 133 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 4: of years in zero this year and the w A 134 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 4: governments stepped in in a really good way to help 135 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 4: us get to hear. So big shout out to the 136 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 4: Deputy Premier and her office and also to missus Ryan 137 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 4: Hart because this is the third year and the second 138 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 4: in a row that Handcock Prospecting and Royal Hill have 139 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 4: been Princetonal sponsors and we've tweaked something with them. This year. 140 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 4: We've taken the same amount of money that they provided 141 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 4: to artists last year, but half of that is being 142 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 4: shared amongst every artist who doesn't otherwise make anything from 143 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 4: the show, because that's money that we lost. 144 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: That's kind of the vibe of the whole thing. 145 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 2: Isn't it. 146 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's great when we can be working with the 147 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 4: big corporates and I understand that. 148 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't worry so much about this because when 149 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 5: it started so was at least it's just about. 150 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: One year behind. 151 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 3: We're all grown up to get the David Thanks. 152 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 4: Growing up. 153 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: Here's the term lasling.