1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: Jersey and Amanda gem Nation. 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 2: I saw this on Reddit, a woman saying I adopted 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:08,879 Speaker 2: my friend April's dog a year ago. She moved in 4 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 2: with a boyfriend who didn't want pets. She gave me 5 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 2: all the rights, whatever that means. The dog became my 6 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 2: world and she saved me from depression. Recently, April asked 7 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 2: for the dog back because her boyfriend was now okay 8 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 2: with it. I refused, explaining the dog was settled and 9 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 2: happy with me. April has accused me of stealing her 10 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 2: dog and threatened to end our friendship. She's reached out 11 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 2: to my relatives with lies. She's trying to ruin our relationship, 12 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,919 Speaker 2: like not giving the dog away. She's my baby. There 13 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 2: was mixed response underneath this. 14 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 3: What do people say? 15 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 4: What people are saying? Anyone who's going to give away 16 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 4: a dog doesn't never deserve a dog. 17 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 2: Yes, someone else has said, look, why don't you buy 18 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 2: yourself another puppy, another dog, and give this one back 19 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 2: to April. Because she's saying here, I'm reading between the lines. 20 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 2: She's saying she gave me full adoptive rites. Maybe that's 21 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 2: how this woman has seen it. Maybe that's wasn't April's intention. 22 00:00:58,200 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 3: How long did she have the dog for here? 23 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 4: Oh? 24 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 2: Some are saying the dog still matters to April, give 25 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 2: the dog back. Others are saying, no, your friend abandoned 26 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 2: the dog. You adopted it. Yep, in your mind, it's 27 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 2: your dog. Now keep the dog. Forget April, return the dog, 28 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 2: get a new puppy you know who. If you want 29 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:20,479 Speaker 2: solace and a dog, do it that way did. 30 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 3: Your own dog. Maybe they should put the dog in 31 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 3: a circle and they on each side who the dog 32 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 3: goes to first. 33 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 2: Like in those crazy Kramer versus Kramer adoption movies. 34 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 3: I don't think that was incredible. 35 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 4: I wasn't mistaken that kid, do you know what I mean? Yeah? Well, 36 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:37,479 Speaker 4: Jacinda exactly. 37 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 2: A producer was saying that they was living in a 38 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:41,199 Speaker 2: flat for a little while. 39 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 4: It was temporary. Her parents live on a farm. 40 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 2: They gave the cat to the mum because they had. 41 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 4: A mice problem. Cat's been very good. 42 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 2: The mother has bonded enormously with the cat. But just 43 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 2: send us kids now want the cat back. They've moved 44 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 2: into it, back into a place. They want their cat back, 45 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 2: and the mother's saying, no, I want it. 46 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 3: My sister moved over to Dubai and she left her 47 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 3: cat Rufous for us to mind, and I didn't mind it. 48 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: I like the cat. 49 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 3: And then she subsequently came back and I said, you 50 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 3: want your cat. 51 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 4: Bag and said you settled. 52 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 3: Here, and then we had Rufus for another eighteen years. 53 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 4: Would you have given the cat bag? Yeah, yeah, I 54 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 4: would have. 55 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 2: But if she had said I'm going away and you 56 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 2: psychologically think this cat's mine, now. 57 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 3: I never thought that. 58 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 4: But because no one cat the cat that's just exists 59 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 4: in the world. Well, that's what we're asking this morning. 60 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 4: It's intriguing, is it keeping the pet? 61 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 3: Yeah? 62 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 4: Does it pass the pub test? 63 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 1: Any woman who puts a man before her dog isn't 64 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: worth it. I am a feeling. I got my sister's 65 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: dog because she did exactly that, and I kept the 66 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: pub four about five or six years. 67 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 5: I don't think she said the puppy, She's show us 68 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 5: the boyfriend puppy. 69 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 4: Learn that. 70 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 5: I think it's just a bit said that she's letting 71 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 5: her boyfriend have so much control over her, like. 72 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: You can't have the dog, you can have the dog? No? 73 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: And what might not love? Yes, it does if the 74 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: original owner was still paying for the dog's food and 75 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: vet bills and everything it needs. But then yes, it 76 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: goes back. But if it was less and said here 77 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: and the new owner was feeding it, like paying for 78 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 1: the food and vet bills of that, well that's that 79 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: person's dog now, end of story. 80 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 5: I think it's a really hard one. I think it's 81 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,959 Speaker 5: got to be taken on a case by case basis. 82 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 5: But I actually think we've got to think about the 83 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 5: poor animal who bonds with the human and has no 84 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 5: say in it. So maybe we should think about what's 85 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 5: going on with the animal and how they're coping. 86 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 2: So should they do what you said earlier, Brendan, where 87 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 2: they stand at opposite ends of a room, maybe with 88 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 2: both of them with sausages around their neck, and see 89 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 2: which one the dog goes for. 90 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 3: I think that's a show on ESPN.