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Speaker 1: Well, if you have just joined us.

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Speaker 2: We did let you know just after ten o'clock this

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Speaker 2: morning that the Northern Territory Chief Minister has announced that

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Speaker 2: Territory Day.

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Speaker 1: Is well heading back to Mindle Beach.

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Speaker 2: After a lot of concerns raised over the last couple

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Speaker 2: the waterfront, the Chief Minister has indeed listened to those concerns.

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Speaker 2: She joins me on the line right now. Good morning

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Speaker 2: to Chief Minister. Morning Katie, Chief Minister, you've made the

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Speaker 2: decision we're heading back to Mindle Beach for Territory Day.

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Speaker 1: What major change your mind?

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Speaker 3: I mean, first and foremost, I always have wanted to

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Speaker 3: make sure that Territory Day stayed at Mindle Beach's been

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Speaker 3: there for twenty odd years, and we all loved going

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Speaker 3: to Mindle Beach. I've been going there since my kids

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Speaker 3: were very little. But Katie, we were able to work

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Speaker 3: with Major Events, so a major events company, and also

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Speaker 3: they were able to then work with Arthur and be

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Speaker 3: assured that the current concerns that they had, that the

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Speaker 3: risks that they thought they were facing could be mitigated

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Speaker 3: and eliminated. And so we're able to move Territory Day

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Speaker 3: back to Mindle Beach, which is a great result because

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Speaker 3: that's where that's where we all want to see Territory Day.

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Speaker 2: Chief Minister, this is I guess you know the issue

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Speaker 2: that we'd heard earlier in the week. We spoke to

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Speaker 2: Brent Potter, the Minister for Major Events, and he had

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Speaker 2: said that, you know, there were in some concerns about

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Speaker 2: Major Events not having that certificate. We then spoke spoke

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Speaker 2: to Benedict Scambree from the Aboriginal Areas Protection Authority and

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Speaker 2: he said that a complaint had not been made and

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Speaker 2: that there hadn't been the need for that certificate for

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Speaker 2: twenty three years. So why were we in a situation

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Speaker 2: where it even.

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Speaker 1: Had to be moved.

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Speaker 3: Yes, because there's been a complaint from a larache traditional

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Speaker 3: owner around the site at Mingdle Beach. So what Major

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Speaker 3: Events Company will now do is they will make sure

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Speaker 3: that they do the work through about the authority certificate.

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Speaker 3: So they won't have that authority certificate to get in

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Speaker 3: time for this year's events, but they will make sure

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Speaker 3: they work through that for the future. They've also Major

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Speaker 3: Events have been able to say that they will work

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Speaker 3: with Larrakiir around any of the sacred sites that are

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Speaker 3: there anything that needs to be mitigated to make sure

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Speaker 3: that that site stays you know, safe into the future,

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Speaker 3: and they'll do that at work.

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Speaker 1: So I'm just a bit confused.

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Speaker 2: So also, yeah, who was the complaint from so and

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Speaker 2: who did they make that complaint to, because when we

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Speaker 2: spoke to the Aboriginal Areas Protection Authority, they said a

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Speaker 2: complaint hadn't been made, so.

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Speaker 3: The complaint had been made of the complaint or the

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Speaker 3: issue around an authority certificate had been made to major events,

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Speaker 3: so it was major events to then have to do

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Speaker 3: the or made the decision that it was something that

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Speaker 3: they wouldn't be able to achieve in that time frame.

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Speaker 3: As I said, Since then, there's been further clarification, as

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Speaker 3: you say, with Ben's gamber from Uper but also you know,

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Speaker 3: we've been able to dig deeper into this as government

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Speaker 3: because of course we do listen to the advice from

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Speaker 3: our CEO, but we've been able to work through that

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Speaker 3: and then say it is absolutely important that Territory Day happened

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Speaker 3: at Mendel Beach. We heard loudly and clearly from the public.

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Speaker 3: But it is also something that we can mitigate any

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Speaker 3: risk or eliminate the risk around that and have that happening.

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Speaker 3: And June we've got two weeks talk yes, everyday, So

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Speaker 3: it's some major events will have to get their gates

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Speaker 3: on to make sure that everything's in place.

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Speaker 2: And so it's going to be going ahead though without

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Speaker 2: a certificate.

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Speaker 3: Yes, So it hasn't had a certificate in the past.

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Speaker 3: It hasn't, you know, people haven't thought that that was needed.

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Speaker 3: But obviously this issue has now been raised. And so

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Speaker 3: you know, if you're running an event or anything and

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Speaker 3: when somebody you know lets you know, it's you know,

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Speaker 3: when did you know? What did you do about that

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Speaker 3: sort of thing? And so major events were on size

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Speaker 3: of caution, I would say, and they believe that they

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Speaker 3: have been able to achieve what they thought was necessary.

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Speaker 3: But since then, and you know, we've been able to

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Speaker 3: work through that. So Territory Day will return to Middle Beach,

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Speaker 3: which I think we all love. We love looking out

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Speaker 3: to see and seeing the fireworks off the sea there

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Speaker 3: at Middle Beach out and see it's just a stunning

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Speaker 3: setting for us all.

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Speaker 1: So look, I think I think it's absolutely it is.

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Speaker 1: It is good news.

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Speaker 2: I think that it's absolutely the best thing and the

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Speaker 2: you know, the best move that could have been made.

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Speaker 2: I guess the only concern I've got now is that

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Speaker 2: if there is somebody who's made a complaint to NT

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Speaker 2: major events and and if we know that there you know,

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Speaker 2: there is a sacred site area, there is a sacred

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Speaker 2: site down there at Mindle Beach, who's going to be

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Speaker 2: liable or who's going to take responsibility should something go wrong?

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Speaker 2: Is poor old you know, is poor old major events

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Speaker 2: going to wind up with legal action taken against them?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so, That's exactly right, Katie. So that's why

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Speaker 3: Major Events had to make that decision around the risk

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Speaker 3: and look to change that. Major events now will work

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Speaker 3: through that and as I said, make sure that any

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Speaker 3: any of the work that happens or where the public is,

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Speaker 3: they can mitigate that risk. As I said, So that's

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Speaker 3: the work that will now happen with major events. But yes,

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Speaker 3: that's that was why that that's why Major Events made

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Speaker 3: that decision in the first place. But you know, with

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Speaker 3: further conversations, we think we can mitigate that risk.

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Speaker 2: Cha's minister, Someone's message through in dust. How is it

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Speaker 2: that a whole event can be changed based on one complaint.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's that's how it works. It does happen at times.

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Speaker 3: You know, that happens in any instance. It's around. It's

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Speaker 3: somebody who alerts you to some information. And this isn't

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Speaker 3: just this isn't just an isolated example. There are other

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Speaker 3: examples where somebody will alert you to a safety issue

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Speaker 3: or a concern that they have and then you have

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Speaker 3: to work around that. So you know, that's the fact

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Speaker 3: when you're all well anything, you know, whether that's building

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Speaker 3: site or anywhere, there will be times where one person

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Speaker 3: or one individual can alert you to a concern they have.

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Speaker 2: But you're satisfied that that risk can be mitigated and

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Speaker 2: we're fine to have it back there at Mindle Beach, yes.

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Speaker 3: So that was we heard Ben Scambrie at Estimates yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Need the CEO of arper O Borutinal Areas Protection Authority

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Speaker 3: say that that can be sorted, that can be resolved.

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Speaker 3: So that's on the public record, which is good for

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Speaker 3: us to have as well. But there's been ongoing conversations

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Speaker 3: over the last day or so, and you know that's

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Speaker 3: what you have to do in government. You can't just

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Speaker 3: you can't just make a push people around. You actually

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Speaker 3: do need to work through the issues. And as I said,

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Speaker 3: we believe now that we can, the riskers can be mitigated.

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Speaker 3: We've worked through that and so Territory Day we'll return

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Speaker 3: to Mindle Beach and I hope lots of Territorians are

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Speaker 3: going to be attending because it'll be again we love

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Speaker 3: we all love Territory Days. Just a special special events.

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Speaker 1: It truly is. And look I think it is.

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Speaker 2: You know the way those fireworks are little, I mean

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Speaker 2: they're let off a barge as I understand it there

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Speaker 2: at Mendele Beach, it's.

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Speaker 1: Beautiful, like it is absolutely beautiful.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yes, I mean we've all had friends who

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Speaker 3: just come to Darwin the Territory Day and some of

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Speaker 3: that's about lighting their own crackers as well. So they'll

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Speaker 3: go to the Territory Day event and then they'll head

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Speaker 3: home and light lots of crackers. So we know how

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Speaker 3: popular it is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well, Chief Minister of the LAWLA really appreciate

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Speaker 2: you taking the time to have a quick chat with

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Speaker 2: us this morning, and I know that people are very

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Speaker 2: pleased to hear that it's moving back to mindle No.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Katie, thank you