1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: Two Good Sports would like to acknowledge the traditional owners 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: of the land on which we record this podcast that 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: will rundery people. This land was never seated, always was, 4 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: always will be. Hello and welcome to two Good Sports 5 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: Sports news told differently. 6 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 2: I'm Georgie Tawney and I'm Abby Jelmy and George. On 7 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 2: today's show, Some sports people can pinpoint the exact moment 8 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 2: they knew all they wanted to do was to reach 9 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 2: the pinnacle of their sport. Remarkably, that's not the case 10 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 2: for Australia's most successful athlete on the world stage right now? 11 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 2: Who am I talking about? 12 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:35,599 Speaker 1: Sam Kay? 13 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 2: Okay, well she is very sickcess, but right now, but 14 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 2: right right now in terms of global sports and who 15 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 2: is performing? Oscar Pastre, Oscar pstre Pistre Pstrest. He loved 16 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 2: cars and racing the remote control variety from as early 17 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 2: as six years old with his dad, which six year 18 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 2: old and remote control cars. Don't think about what you 19 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 2: were doing at six because it wasn't that cool. No 20 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 2: move to Europe at fourteen years old. Nuts from the 21 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 2: sunny brighton east of Melbourne to dreary, dreary Europe to 22 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 2: pursue elite go karting while also continuing his schooling. But 23 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 2: not until he was dominating F two, and he was dominating, 24 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 2: did he consider that the dream of racing in Formula 25 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,279 Speaker 2: one could be a reality, because, as we know, George, 26 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 2: there are only twenty seats. But flash forward to twenty 27 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 2: twenty three and the Wonder from down Under has one 28 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 2: of those spots on the grid. He is racing for 29 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 2: McLaren in his rookie season and he is flying. He's 30 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 2: had back to back podiums and one a sprint in kata. 31 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 2: He's announced himself to the Formula one world but really 32 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 2: he'd already announced himself before his rookie season. He was 33 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 2: spoken about as the next Max of Stappin. That's ridiculous. 34 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 2: This kid is twenty two. He was twenty one when 35 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 2: the drama went down of him leaving Alpine. We are 36 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 2: so pumped to talk about this. Who is he? What 37 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 2: do you need to know about him? How is he 38 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 2: racing so well now? And of course you can't not 39 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 2: mention drive to survive and the fact that it made 40 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 2: me and a lot of others fall in love with 41 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 2: that one. 42 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: It's your cheat sheet because he is only going to 43 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: be talked about more and more and more and more, 44 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: and you can say, listening to us bang on about 45 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 1: it that you were one of the first who knew 46 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: who Oscar Pastree was. But first, I think we need 47 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: some headlines. Jelmy headline one ideal at all. 48 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think everyone's or after the last game was 49 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 3: a little bit flat, but the last couple days been 50 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 3: really good. Everyone's you know, kind of roll up the 51 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 3: sleeves and want to try and get to work and 52 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 3: make amends. 53 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: Oh I don't like flat Australian cricketers. It doesn't sit well. 54 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: You also do need to make amends because we are battling, 55 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 2: we struggly, We are zero and two and the problem 56 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 2: is we all have such what feels like recent memories 57 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 2: of watching Ricky Ponting and co. Just dominate. So when 58 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 2: Australia aren't performing well on the world stage in cricket, 59 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 2: there's a lot of huh. Australia were embarrassed by South Africa. 60 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 2: We suffered our biggest ODI World Cup defeat. Ever, it's 61 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 2: only a ten team competition and we are languishing. We're 62 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,519 Speaker 2: now in the position where we need to win six 63 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 2: of our last seven games. Because everyone plays each other once. 64 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 2: It's not looking good. 65 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: What's the soul for too much cricket? Like I think 66 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: you just have to because it's been too diluted now 67 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: when it comes to international games. Potentially one solution is 68 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: to drop the number of men's matches and just keep 69 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: letting the Southern Stars. I know that's not what they 70 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: called it anymore, but the Australian women's cricket team just 71 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: dominate and play all of the cricket that there could be. 72 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 2: Well, you mentioned that, George. They just won their ODI series. 73 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 2: Of course they did against the West Indies and they 74 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 2: won it by an absolute landslide, so game two was 75 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 2: rained out. But they have absolutely dominated and it was 76 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 2: a name like Annabelle Sutherland again, a young young player 77 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 2: coming through the ranks. Three for twenty three is what 78 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:05,119 Speaker 2: she took. 79 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: Wow. 80 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 2: So it's just exciting. You've got exciting young talent. That's 81 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 2: their second trophy for the summer because they already won 82 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 2: the T twenty series. I guess the Windys. So the 83 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 2: girls are just unbelievable and you say we've got too 84 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 2: much cricket. The WBBL starts on the nineteenth of October. 85 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 2: That's The thing is, the Big Bash is about to start. 86 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 2: So these players and the men's players are going to 87 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 2: get back from the ODI saying stick a fork in me, 88 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 2: I want to break, and they're going to come home 89 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 2: for the home summer. 90 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: Yes, it's a jam pack schedule and I know that 91 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: it always has been, but this is another level now 92 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 1: with all of the different formats. 93 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 2: Well do you know what is another level? Let's throw 94 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 2: in an Olympics because cricket is now. 95 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: Tell me their CuPy at Olympics. It's a limit to 96 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: sleep for LA anyway, Okay, we'll sleep never summation of that. 97 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 2: Men's cricket not going so well, Women's cricket absolutely flying. 98 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 2: Olympic sports. Scratch your head, but it's happening. Headline two is. 99 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 4: Australians we can do whatever we believe we can. Now 100 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 4: I keep putting its down, we keep working our way up. 101 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 4: It wasn't that long ago I was here. 102 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 103 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 4: Now I'm in the Premier League and everyone loves me. 104 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 4: But trust me, I haven't changed one bit of the 105 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 4: boys between you. 106 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 2: I'm fine person. 107 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 4: But because I was Australian, because you're Australian, sometimes you're 108 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 4: got to work that a little bit harder, nothing wrong 109 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 4: with that. That's what makes us special, makes us different. 110 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 4: Nothing is given to any Australian football. You all have 111 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 4: to earn what you get because as soon as you're 112 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 4: say from Australia, well, I put you down a peggot two? 113 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 4: Are you here? Because you don't let that happen? Can 114 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 4: don't let that happen from now? 115 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: What's your down a peg or two? You and I 116 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: physically jelted at that because we are of the mind 117 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: that Australia. We're like, oh, we are definitely in all 118 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,559 Speaker 1: conversations at all times. Not the case ant pasta Coggley 119 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: bringing us back to. 120 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 2: Earth and and hitting the facts. Everyone does love him. Yes, 121 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 2: what he's done with the Spurs is remarkable, and yes 122 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 2: it's only early in the season, but the fact that 123 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 2: they are top of the table is just no one 124 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 2: saw it coming any hitting them with the Australian coaching 125 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 2: love and on behalf of the soccer us. We love 126 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 2: your Graham Arnold. But if you want to come back 127 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 2: in any capacity, we will take the shine. We will 128 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 2: just everyone will have to touch his head on the 129 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 2: way out. 130 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: It's osmosis right if you just stand next to him, 131 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 1: then all of his goldenness comes on to you. That's 132 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: at least what the soccer Us were hoping because that 133 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: grab was from Angeboster Congloo addressing the team before they 134 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: took on England in an international friendly. 135 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 2: Now there's no such thing as a friendly in world sport. 136 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 2: There really isn't, really. 137 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 1: Isn't, because imagine if Australia one England embarrassed. That didn't happen. 138 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: Australia lost one nil to England. But what a great 139 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: occasion though for the soccer US team, for those players. 140 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 2: At Wembley at Wembley. 141 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 1: Which is just huge. So for them that is a 142 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: lifetime dream and it's been achieved. Now it's a big tick. 143 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: The A leagues, both men and women, kicked off over 144 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: the weekend and I'm very excited about them, Matilda's effect 145 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 1: and just how we will see that play out in 146 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: the AL women's in particular, because we've already seen like 147 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: some of the stats. I mean Sydney FC, they've had 148 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: an eight hundred percent rise in membership and yes, I 149 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: know the haters will say you can only get that 150 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: bigger number rise because you haven't started with that many 151 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: members hater's gonna hate and shut up. Who even cares. 152 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 2: But there's a lot of football going on in the 153 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 2: world at the moment. But all you need to know 154 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 2: is in and we trust. But we need to give 155 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 2: the AFLW some love. I feel like we may have 156 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 2: been neglecting a little bit. 157 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: I think that's fair. I think it is fair. 158 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 2: So we're going to head to headline three now and 159 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 2: we are in the ten round season up to round seven. 160 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 2: We're up to round seven no which is remarked even 161 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 2: out of ten, and the headline from the weekend is 162 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 2: that Collingwood are into the top eight with a win 163 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 2: over the Blues. If you ever want to know a 164 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 2: rivalry Blues and Pists. 165 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: It extends to the AFLW as well. 166 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 2: Absolutely does. Brisbane hammered the Gold Coast in the AFLWQ 167 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 2: Clash We Love a Q Class and Kilda, DeLong, Essendon 168 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 2: Hawthorne all had a win. Notably, North Melbourne thrashed Port 169 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 2: by sixty three points. Their biggest ever total in the 170 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 2: club's AFLW history was eighty seven at Arden Street. So 171 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 2: they're second on the ladder North with the Crows atop 172 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 2: the table. The Crows win is gonna win. 173 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: Win is going to win. They're so good even. 174 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 2: Without Aaron Phillips I now at Port. If they win, 175 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 2: it's going to be their fourth flag. 176 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: It's incredible. That team is absolutely nuts what they can do. 177 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 2: Nama in third and they're still very much in the 178 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 2: hunt of going back to back and that's their first 179 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 2: season without Daisy Pierce. You can't see it, but I 180 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 2: just gene reflected when anyone mentions Daisy one must reflect 181 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 2: what she's given and what she does for all of us. 182 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 2: And the Lions who beat in last year's Granny, they 183 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 2: round out the top four. You are seeing all eighteen 184 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 2: teams compete this season and. 185 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: It has been a lot more competitive. The standard is 186 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: a lot better. 187 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,559 Speaker 2: It's really enjoyable to watch. So when it gets to 188 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 2: final season we'll give it a lot more attention. But 189 00:08:49,280 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 2: watch the MAFO W headline four. I feel so happy. 190 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 1: Our record was not in my mind today but that's 191 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: come definitely. 192 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 2: But I knew one day, one time, I'll be a 193 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 2: well record holder. 194 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: The confidence two hours and thirty seconds and no that 195 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: is not a description of the flight time from Melbourne 196 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: to Britsbane. 197 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 2: It may as well be Kelvin Kiptom. Remember the name 198 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 2: because this kid is an absolute star. And I say 199 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 2: kid because he's twenty three years old, which for a 200 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 2: marathon runner you may as well be fresh from the womb. Yeah, 201 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 2: that's a baby. He is a baby. That was also 202 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 2: there are so many laser as to why this story 203 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 2: is remarkable. That was his third ever competitive marathon, third third, 204 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 2: and he broke the world record. 205 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: And nearly broke two hours, which is in sanity. 206 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 2: Elio Kipchoge another Kenyon. Oh by the way, it's Kenya 207 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:58,839 Speaker 2: to Kenya like that. That isn't changing and so I 208 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 2: don't think he's gonna change for all now. No, but 209 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:05,559 Speaker 2: Kipchogi's record was set in twenty nineteen and he is 210 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 2: widely regarded as one of the greatest runners of all time. 211 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 2: This kid walks in self trained, never been to an Olympics, 212 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 2: his third competitive marathon and smacks Kipchogi's time by thirty seconds. 213 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: It's crazy. On the topic of athletic prowess, we are 214 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:30,119 Speaker 1: focusing in our main deep dive today on arguably Australia's 215 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: most successful athlete right now. He stolen hearts off the 216 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 1: grid for his humor and his meme mobility. Who the 217 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: hell is the walking meme Oscar Pastri? And why are 218 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: we losing our collective minds over a twenty two year 219 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: old who struggles to put up command hooks. That's next, 220 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: Oscar Oscar, Oscar the Wonder from down Under. He was 221 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 1: born in Melbourne the sixth of April two thousand and one. Jealmy. 222 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 1: That means he is twenty two years young. He, I guess, 223 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: discovered this love of racing from a very early age. 224 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: He was about six. We've spoken, you know. He was 225 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: the remote control car enthusiast. He eventually found go karting 226 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 1: and he was taken to Oakley Go Kart Club and 227 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 1: it was through those connections that he actually made through 228 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: remote control competitive car racing, which sounds made up, but 229 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: it's a thing. That those connections then introduced him to 230 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: go karting and then he was set up to be 231 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 1: an F one superstar. Few hop skips and jumps to 232 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 1: get to that stage. Basically, if it was on four 233 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: wheels and it went fast, he was about it. He 234 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: didn't say it was his life, but he was about it. 235 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: He was intrigued by it. It was an obsession to 236 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: him somewhat. He was a grid kid at the Melbourne 237 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: Grand Prix. Oscar Piastre was one of those little whole 238 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: some kids. He was there and now he gets to 239 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: walk out with the kids on f one tracks around 240 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: the world, which is crazy. When he was fourteen, he 241 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: moved to Europe and so he started a boarding school 242 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,959 Speaker 1: so that he could take his go karting. More seriously, well, his. 243 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 2: Dad moved with him for the first six months, okay, 244 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 2: and a lot of this and a lot of motorsport. 245 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 2: The first thing that you hear drivers say is it's 246 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 2: a very expensive sport. A lot don't make it. And 247 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 2: unless and I think we're going to touch on his 248 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,439 Speaker 2: mum later, but unless you have parents that are supportive 249 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 2: enough financially as well as emotionally to let your kid 250 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 2: go at fourteen years old. And let's be honest, fourteen 251 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 2: year old boys aren't like fourteen year old girls. Fourteen 252 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 2: year old boys may as well before yes, and we 253 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,079 Speaker 2: actually and it's funny because you listen to some of 254 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 2: the interviews that Oscar Piastre has done now and he 255 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 2: still feels like a kid that's just moved out of home. 256 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 2: He's learning how to cook. He burns things, he tries 257 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 2: to dry his clothes using an oven. And you touched 258 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 2: on the command hooks earlier. He didn't realize how to 259 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 2: use command hooks, so he just ripped one off and 260 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 2: off came layers of wallpaper. Yeah, but he had to 261 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 2: grow up very quickly. But from the sounds of it 262 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 2: and from his results, he was always born to be 263 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 2: a star. Yes, yes, because even one in the remote 264 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 2: control world when he wasn't taking it seriously. You got 265 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 2: to go karting and just started winning. 266 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: One that and then made it into F three, won that, 267 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: then went to F two, which is an upgrade from 268 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: F three. 269 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 2: Won that, so champion, champion, knocking on the door. 270 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,839 Speaker 1: Yes, And basically for everyone who doesn't know, correct me 271 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: if I'm wrong, jelmy. But my understanding of the difference 272 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: between F three, F two F one is that F 273 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: two and F three are essentially slightly more of a 274 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 1: level playing field. I am using air quotation marks in 275 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 1: that the cars themselves generally are either exactly the same 276 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: or very similar. 277 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 2: There, you don't have any disparity that you see in 278 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 2: that one. 279 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: Yes, you have the same group of engineers working on 280 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: all of the cars, so there's less customization possible. In 281 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: F one, of course, completely different, where it's like you 282 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,839 Speaker 1: need the car, If you have the best car, you're 283 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: probably gonna win. It doesn't necessarily always come down to 284 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: your strength as a driver or your racecraft, whereas an 285 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: F three and F two it really is pretty much 286 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: all about the racecraft. 287 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 2: And F two is where F one drivers come from. Yes, 288 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 2: usually if they're making their way through the ranks based 289 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 2: on skill. We know that it's a really bizarre world. 290 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 2: It's not like you need to qualify, you just need 291 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 2: the team to pick you. Yes, So there is a 292 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 2: little bit of nepotism where if your dad hypothetically owns 293 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 2: the team, potentially you you might have a bit of 294 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 2: a leg up. Although in saying that, Lan Stroll has 295 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 2: definitely proven himself as a driver, but it does help 296 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 2: the Lawrence strolls like, you want the team up, buy 297 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 2: the team, So you do see a little bit way 298 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 2: and we see that a little bit in the V eights, 299 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 2: which again Oscar Piastre growing up. Initially you say did 300 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 2: you love the F one? He's like, yeah, but the 301 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 2: races were really hard to watch in Australia, which is fair, 302 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 2: very fair, because if you're a young kid, you're not 303 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 2: watching at four am, no, two am no. So he 304 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 2: watched a lot of the V eights and loved the 305 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 2: V eights and used to watch the F one on repeat. 306 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 2: But essentially he loved anything with four wheels. He wanted 307 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 2: to get involved. But as you said, George, he was 308 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 2: a champion in the F two. Then in twenty twenty 309 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 2: two he's like, right, oh, ready for my spot on 310 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 2: the grid team there isn't one, so Alpine that had 311 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 2: put a lot into his development, he becomes their third driver. 312 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: Alpine, which used to be known as Reno. 313 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 2: So he is not on the grid, but he could 314 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 2: have been because bizarrely, if you win F two you 315 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 2: can't go back. So weird. 316 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: It's so complicated, like it's quite a convoluted progression. I 317 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: guess right, it's not a straightforward path. But the takeaway 318 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: is that Piastre, at least for us and I guess 319 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: for everyone really in the motorsport community, has been earmarked 320 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: as this generational talent for a really long time, so 321 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: much so that a former Australian racing great Mark Webber 322 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: remember him Weber v Vettel. That was like everywhere when 323 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: we were just. 324 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 2: Think of a jaw line and you've probably got the 325 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 2: right blow. Think of it one. Think of a jaw line. 326 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: Him racing the dodge neck. 327 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 2: That's it. 328 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: That's it. 329 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 2: Some sort of stubble always involved, but that's that's Mark Webber. 330 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: And he is now Oscar Pastre's manager. So him with 331 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: all of his connections. 332 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 2: And started managing him at eighteen. Yes, he's like, I 333 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 2: will get on the winning cart. Thank you, thank you 334 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 2: your mind. 335 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: And he was able to, with all of his connections, 336 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: start having those conversations that would put Pastre in the 337 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: f one conversation because, as you say, it's not always 338 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: just results based. 339 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 2: And we also think as Australians, we get hyped about 340 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 2: Australian talent, so sometimes we can blow them up larger 341 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 2: than what they're spoken about on the international stage. That's 342 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 2: simply not the case for Oscar Pastre. It is a 343 00:16:56,440 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 2: truth universally acknowledged that this kid is the next big talent, 344 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 2: so much so that you can see all the big 345 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 2: talking heads talk about it on everyone's favorite show, Drive 346 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 2: to Survive. It is Everyone's favorite s It is everybody's 347 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 2: favorite show. So and if you haven't, I was late 348 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 2: to the Drive to Survive party. I'll be the first 349 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 2: to admit. But then when you discover something late and 350 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 2: there are five seasons to get through, I'll be surprised 351 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 2: if my Sony is an a race card driver because 352 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 2: I was heavily pregnant, sitting on the couch and just obsessed, 353 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 2: absolutely obsessed. And you get to season five, episode five 354 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 2: and you have the Christian Horners of the world saying 355 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 2: this kid is going to be the next Max for Staffan. 356 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 1: Now Christian Horner to quantify that is the head of 357 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,959 Speaker 1: Red Bull Racing. He is also mister Jerry halliwell, I 358 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: know she's changed her name to Jerry Horner, but whatever, 359 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: it's Ginger Spice. 360 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 2: There is a lot of Spice girls on Netflix at 361 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 2: the moment. 362 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 1: Yes, that's right, that's right. 363 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,199 Speaker 2: With their less famous husbands. Yes, yes, I said, I 364 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 2: went there. 365 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: And he essentially is in charge of Red Bull, which 366 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: is the team, the team. They'll be glad one they are. 367 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 2: They to just flinched. 368 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: Yet Toto Wolf from Mercedes is just somewhere how to 369 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 1: cult shiver, going say, what what is that? 370 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 2: But this is what Drives to Survive has done is 371 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 2: that we can say Christian Toto in conversation and you 372 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 2: believe that other people know who you're talking about exactly, 373 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 2: because it brought these big names in F one that 374 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 2: aren't the drivers, they're the team managers, and yet they 375 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 2: have become part of pop culture. And we'll talk about 376 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 2: what it's done for F one down the track. But 377 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 2: in season five, which is August twenty twenty two, Fernando 378 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 2: Alonso leaves Alpine for Astemat. 379 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: And remember, at this time Alpine has Fernando Alonso, Esteban 380 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 1: Oconn and Oscar piastre Is waiting in the wings, cannot 381 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 1: get a seat because he is the reserved. 382 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 2: Driver, but waiting in a very well financed wing where 383 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 2: they are doing a lot to develop him, believing that 384 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,719 Speaker 2: he will be their next star. Yes, and looking at 385 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 2: their stable of talent, being like Fernando a Lonzo's fourty 386 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 2: one but still driving in his peak. But how great, Yes, 387 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 2: look look at our stacked stable of drivers. So Team 388 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:14,640 Speaker 2: Alpine find out about Fernando leaving via media Alpine then go, oh, 389 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 2: that's unfortunate. We believe that we were in good faith 390 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 2: conversations with Alonzo. But anyway, they then tweet and I 391 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 2: wish I could describe this better a shaking hands of 392 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 2: most between Esteva nocon and Oscar Piastre, and it essentially says, 393 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 2: after four years as part of the family, Piastre has 394 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 2: been announced in the race seat alongside Esva Noconn. So 395 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 2: they're essentially going, well done, young man, you've developed line 396 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 2: up confirmed. 397 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,400 Speaker 1: Yes, is in this Yes, be like sad, so sad 398 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 1: we've lost Alonso, but my god, I'm so glad that 399 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: we've spent four million dollars developing this one. 400 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 2: Because we forget that this they're not talking in Australian 401 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 2: so brilliant. You're young thing, you're twenty one and you're 402 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 2: the greed water time. 403 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: Yes, and everyone's going, oh, I mean makes sense, well done, Alpine, 404 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: great great news slash change McLaren. 405 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 2: Daniel Ricardo just not clicking, which is really hard for 406 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 2: Australians because he is, as per this series, the star 407 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 2: the protagonist can't leave, but he also apparently isn't driving well. Yes, 408 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 2: and it wasn't for a short period of time, it 409 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 2: was for a longer period of time, and he's such 410 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 2: a tested experience driver he's had amazing success and he 411 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 2: also had a podium for McLaren. Yes, not a podium 412 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 2: he won, he won the Italian GP. So this is 413 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,199 Speaker 2: all happening in the background. McLaren been like, ooh, how 414 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 2: do we get what do we do? And they're like, 415 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 2: willis Pstree available the afternoon that Alpine had put out 416 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 2: their handshaking tweet being like welcome Oscar Pstree Oscar ps 417 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 2: tree tweets. I understand that without my agreement Alpine F 418 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,199 Speaker 2: one have put out a press release this afternoon that 419 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 2: I am driving for them next year. This is wrong 420 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 2: and I have not signed a contra with Alpine for 421 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three. I will not be driving for them 422 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 2: next year. And we are talking about a twenty one 423 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 2: year old from Australia all of a sudden, on a 424 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 2: very very big, very very public show, getting hammett for 425 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:18,199 Speaker 2: his character. 426 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 1: Yes, so essentially Oscar has gone from a reserve driver 427 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: to confirmed that he's going to be get a seat 428 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: and be on the F one circuit. However, it's not 429 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: with his junior club shall we call them, in Alpine. 430 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: He has backstabbed, for one of a better word, that 431 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,199 Speaker 1: team and has moved to McLaren because, to be honest, 432 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:41,360 Speaker 1: I think Ballsey moved from him. He knows that he 433 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 1: wanted to be on that grid, he wanted to be racing, 434 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: and he saw that future with McLaren and he went, yeah, 435 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: that's what I want. 436 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 2: And at the time, the context of it all is 437 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 2: Alpine and McLaren are like fighting for fourth and fifth 438 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 2: in the Constructors Championship, which essentially means you have to 439 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 2: have you both your drivers performing well and there's a 440 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 2: big difference between them, but they're all at loggerheads. The 441 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 2: world implodes and the next episode opens up and he's 442 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 2: going for a jog in the south of France with 443 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:10,199 Speaker 2: Mark Webber and you just think, this kid is living 444 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 2: the most ridiculous life. 445 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: Svenda who puts clothes in an oven to drive. 446 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 2: I know. So again we'll fastrack through this. But Daniel 447 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,959 Speaker 2: Ricardo then releases a selfie video in collaboration with McLaren 448 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 2: being like, I'm so sad We've tried. It gives conscious uncoupling. 449 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 2: It does, because he was like, we've tried, it's just 450 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 2: not working. We're really sad about it, but hopefully going forward. 451 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 2: But you definitely get the impression that Daniel Ricardo wasn't 452 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:36,679 Speaker 2: the one doing the breaking up. 453 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, nah nah, he got sacked. 454 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 2: So Lando Norris there and it also he outshone Riccardo. 455 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 2: Has to be said. He had seventy six points to 456 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 2: Riccardo's nineteen. 457 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 1: So he is a McLaren driver. 458 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 2: Yes, and also the darling, so Lando Norris is there 459 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 2: and he needs a teammate, he will presumably step up 460 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 2: and beat the lead driver. Lead driver. Yeah, then sits 461 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 2: down Oscar Piastre and he goes, Hi, I'm back as 462 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 2: a McClaren driver now. 463 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: Who everyone thinks, rightly or wrongly, has questionable character in 464 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 1: Oscar Piastree right. 465 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 2: Or at the very least Alpina throwing every bit of 466 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 2: mud and hoping it sticks. Yes, yes, as in looking 467 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 2: down the barrel on drive to survive, saying I would 468 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,719 Speaker 2: have thought that he had more integrity from this, I 469 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 2: cannot understand a lack of loyalty. It starts it's giving 470 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,439 Speaker 2: very Dan Andrews. It starts as four million, at one 471 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 2: point it's five million. When they're like, we should sue 472 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 2: for five million dollars because essentially we were putting funding 473 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 2: into this kid with the belief that there was in exchange, 474 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 2: and that exchange was that eventually he would be a 475 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 2: driver for us, and he has pulled the rug out 476 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 2: from under us via a tweet. It's all very sassy 477 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 2: if one, and there's sort of a chat and McLaren's like, oh, well, 478 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 2: you can't be doing that. That'll look bad. So they're 479 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,679 Speaker 2: trying to sub everything around and they end up going 480 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,719 Speaker 2: with Pierre Gasli instead of Danny Ricardo, and then Dan 481 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 2: is left out in the cold. Fuck them all. Fuck 482 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 2: them is I believe the actual technical term that Dan uses. 483 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 2: But through all of this, this is how the world 484 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 2: was introduced in many ways the non motorsport world, because 485 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 2: the motorsport world have been talking about him for a 486 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 2: very long time. But that was the way that a 487 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 2: lot of people that are consuming F One casually via 488 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 2: this hugely successful Netflix series was introduced to a twenty 489 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 2: one year. 490 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: Old yes he was twenty one at the time. And 491 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: then pressure, the pressure, and also just the questions of like, okay, 492 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: so you're apparently this big shot, right, You've made this 493 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: big shot move in deciding that you want to be 494 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: at McLaren you want to take that driver's seat, okay, sure, 495 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: prove it, show us what you can do. 496 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 2: And he has in his rookie season after a slower 497 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 2: than desired start, but the car wasn't great At McLaren, 498 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 2: they've ben had some upgrades, and upgrade they have. He's 499 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 2: got back to back podiums, one of them ahead of 500 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 2: his teammate Lando Norris. But all of us sudden he 501 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 2: is in the echelon of your Danny Ricardo's, your Mark Webber's. 502 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,919 Speaker 2: There's only been six other Australians to be on a 503 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 2: podium before now in this enormous stage that so many 504 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 2: try and don't get to, and he is starting to 505 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,919 Speaker 2: establish himself and the headlines at the moment if you 506 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 2: read it's almost like McLaren have a headache because is 507 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 2: Pastre actually going to overtake Norris. The term teammate is 508 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 2: so loose in. 509 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: F one and this is something that the mate is suggested, 510 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,120 Speaker 1: almost a silent mate. 511 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,919 Speaker 2: Because the fact that the only person that you know 512 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 2: that you should be beating is your teammate because they 513 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 2: are in the same car. Everyone else you can make 514 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 2: excuses for. But when there is qualifying and you're not 515 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 2: going faster than them, they are simply better than you. 516 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 2: So you need to find someone who's happy to play 517 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 2: almost second fiddle but be very good at it. 518 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 1: Which I am not sure pstre would be. No, I 519 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,239 Speaker 1: think that he has shown enough killer instinct, and I'm 520 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: not saying that as a bad thing. I think you 521 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:07,640 Speaker 1: have to be cutthroat in this industry. F one is brutal, brutal, 522 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,679 Speaker 1: but I think that he's shown enough killer instinct that 523 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 1: he wouldn't be happy being number two. 524 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 2: From what we've learned from researching, this is his kind 525 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,919 Speaker 2: of If he wasn't an F one driver, he'd be 526 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 2: going to UNI and studying engineering. That sort of gives you. 527 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 2: Grew up in Melbourne, loves his cricket, loves different sport. 528 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 2: We also know that his mum is everyone's mom. 529 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 1: I want his mum, Nicole is Nicole, Nicole piast I 530 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 1: want her to adopt me. 531 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 2: So she tweets for Australia, and by tweets, I mean 532 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 2: ex's for Australia so much so that when he got 533 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 2: an extension announced with McLaren, she goes, what are we 534 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 2: doing this for another three years? There was another one 535 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 2: that is she's like right O race control wrap this up, 536 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 2: I've got pilates in the morning. 537 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:52,679 Speaker 1: That was when he got on a podium or one 538 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: a sprint or something. 539 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 2: I'd just be like, mum, put the phone down. But 540 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 2: she's great, she's amazing. 541 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: And also she's now entered into the zeitgeist as well, 542 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 1: because Oscar Piastre gets asked about his mum's tweets. Yeah, 543 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: because and he's like, oh god, yes, yeah, she's good. Yeah, 544 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: she's a fan. 545 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 2: It's given Australian Lark. 546 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: It's giving Australian Larkin. And after we've lost Daniel Ricardo, 547 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 1: I know he's still technically on the circuits, got broken up, whatever, 548 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: But now that we've lost him, we've just it's so 549 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 1: wild that we have replaced him with another Ossie Larkin 550 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: that we can potentially get behind, who may have better 551 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: racecraft and we could be seeing even better results. 552 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 2: We're starting to see a generation of athletes that were 553 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 2: born in the two thousands that their entire professional life 554 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 2: is there and documented for you. He's even got Oscar 555 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 2: Piastre dot Com where you can go on and learn 556 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 2: in parts about. 557 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: Him, especially in F one. Yeah, and that is the 558 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:49,880 Speaker 1: drive to survive effect. 559 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 2: Talk about the numbers. 560 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: Well after this show. So this show has been going 561 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: for five seasons now. In twenty twenty one, Formula one 562 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 1: reported a global TV audience of one and a half 563 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 1: billion billion for the Races. Now, I will guarantee you 564 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: more people have watched Drive to Survive and the change 565 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: in the audience that we have seen consuming F one 566 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 1: and who are now F one nerds can be traced 567 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 1: back to this show. Because it's a more diverse audience. 568 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: You are getting four times the number of female eyes 569 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,880 Speaker 1: on this sport than there ever has been before. And 570 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: that is because of this reality show. 571 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 2: And do you know why the drama? They the drama. 572 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 2: Women don't necessarily love and we're genderizing this because it's 573 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 2: just the way it is. That's the way the audience 574 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 2: split has always been for motorsport. It's more male dominant 575 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 2: than female. Women haven't fallen more in love than watching 576 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 2: cars go round and round. Yeah, they've fallen in love 577 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 2: with the fact that Fernando A. Lonzo says I'm leaving 578 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 2: via the media. Yes, this tweet comes out. It's drama. 579 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 2: It's reality TV drama forget housewives. F one for me 580 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 2: is not your top tier sport that women tend to 581 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 2: be into until now. Yeah, and it's really cool. 582 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 1: It's also cool that the Formula One as a body 583 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: and as a sport has embraced it, like they haven't 584 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 1: gate kept that, they've opened it. They've opened themselves up 585 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: right and they've embraced it and been like, yeah, you 586 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 1: know what this sport which we have held at the 587 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: top echelon when it comes to money, it's for the 588 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 1: rich and famous, Hello monarka'nch. But then it's like, actually 589 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 1: everyone can enjoy this. 590 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 2: It has changed the way that sport is documented and 591 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 2: the way that fans are engaged. Yep. 592 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: And the number one storyline for season six guaranteed is 593 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: going to start our little lossie that could it is, 594 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: isn't it? 595 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? 596 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: Oscar Pistre. He's just going to keep on going because arguably, 597 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: do you think he is Australia's most successful athlete right 598 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: now on a global stage? 599 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yes, And I would say that as someone who 600 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,479 Speaker 2: for work reads sport headlines. The fact that he has 601 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 2: back to back podiums and the people that are in 602 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 2: the conversation around him are your maxistappin your Lando or 603 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 2: US and how cool? So cool? And he's got so 604 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 2: long to go. He can do this until he's mid forties. 605 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 2: But the question is do you like him? 606 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: I love him. I think that the more we get 607 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: to see him, the more that he's platformed. I'm hoping 608 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: that more of his personality comes out the mean personality. 609 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 1: I'm here for the mean personality. I'm here for him 610 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 1: given side eye to people and backing it up with results. 611 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 2: With confidence comes mean personality. Yeah, and it's only going 612 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 2: to grow. Bring on season six. Is this a topic 613 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 2: that we've tried to squeeze into a deep dive that 614 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 2: it makes absolutely no sense, but it's what we want 615 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 2: to talk about. Sure. David Beckham and the Netflix doco 616 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 2: that has stolen all of our hearts. I'm in love 617 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 2: with Victoria Beckham. I won't hear a bad word about her. 618 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 2: I think that she has been so funny. But there's 619 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 2: something about this doco that really struck me and struck us. 620 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 2: Was David Beckham one of the first athletes to go 621 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 2: I'm gonna become the brand? 622 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: But fun fact, I think we can say there's at 623 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: least half a dozen iconic hairstyles for David Beckham that 624 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: he has adorned throughout his playing career. 625 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 2: Fun fact iconic hairstyles of David Beckham. What is your favorite? Mine? 626 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with the twisty dreads a. 627 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: Dice Okay, yes, yes, yes, that was a time, all 628 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 1: the time. The mohawk mohawk is good, and I do 629 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 1: know I do have English friends who got that mohawk. 630 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: They came, they went to school when he had that, 631 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 1: and they were like just rocking up for school with 632 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: their mohawks because they were like, beef's good enough for becks, 633 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: it's good enough for me. 634 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 2: And we saw these during the docco that when he 635 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 2: shaved his head. Schools all over England were like stop 636 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 2: that because kids were rocking up with shaved heads and 637 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 2: it's got a little kiding, like I just want to 638 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,959 Speaker 2: be like David and they just shaved their heads, and 639 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 2: these well to do schools are like, can you not 640 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 2: rock up to school as a skinhead? 641 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: Please? 642 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 2: Please? 643 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 1: He did look good with the shaved head, but he 644 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 1: went the peroxide. 645 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 2: Oh see, I had a mullet. There was a ponytail. 646 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: Yes, I think that The platinum, like the long platinum 647 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: bob is probably my favorite because I call it the 648 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 1: Kira Nightley because of the movie bendit like Beckham and 649 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: you know when she's there and she's got like that, 650 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 1: you know those large elastic bands. I don't know what 651 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: they called. She's got that full back. That is that 652 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: for Steve Smith headband, Steve Smith headband on and he 653 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: had that little bob giving Victoria, his own wife, a 654 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 1: run for money with the bob. I think that that, 655 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: for me, is his most iconic. 656 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 2: But do you know what, there's an iconic photo of 657 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,959 Speaker 2: Beckham with a do rag meeting Prince Charles. 658 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 1: So he was someone and the one's allowed to do it. 659 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 2: He just didn't care. Yeah, he just didn't care. But 660 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 2: you think so much of what he did paved the 661 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 2: way for athletes the way that we see them now 662 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 2: showing personality, yes, showing who they are. I mean, would 663 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 2: you welcome your partner telling you to do your hair 664 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 2: when you've just had a baby. Probably not? 665 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 1: Probably not. 666 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 2: It did not paint him in the best light that 667 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 2: entire doco. 668 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 1: No no, But the effect that he has had on 669 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: you know, this generation of fans and even now now 670 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 1: that this doc go's out, the next generation of fans 671 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: they're probably there watching being like, oh my god, that 672 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 1: mohawk looks good. Note to sell it doesn't. If David 673 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: Beckham can't make the mohawk look good, it's not gonna 674 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 1: look good. Just your regular person. 675 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 2: Also, if bee keeping was their attempt to make him 676 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 2: seem like a normal person, that's. 677 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 1: It for today's show. If you want to join the conversation, 678 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 1: hopefully that you do. Tell us your favorite iconic moments, 679 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: tell us why you're into F one. We do read 680 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 1: all of your comments on our Instagram page at two 681 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: Good Sports Podcast. Please give us a follow and keep 682 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 1: listening because we love having someone to talk to. 683 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,479 Speaker 2: If you don't think that Oscar Piastri is the most 684 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 2: prevalent Australian sporting start in the world right now, please 685 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 2: tell us who it is. Yeah, Sam Kerr definitely in 686 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 2: the conversation, but in terms of performance right now, who 687 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 2: is it? M Dee've got them until next week, George, 688 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 2: stay good sports. M hm h m hm