WEBVTT - Would You Rather Know How Or When You’ll Die? 💀

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<v Speaker 1>The Flex and Rooms Daily podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>I am so so glad me to extended episode because

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<v Speaker 2>I've aways got more to say, so much pity, appy yappity, a.

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<v Speaker 1>Breadth of conversation that is mostly untapped in everyday life.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd say, flex, so, what a pleasure it is to

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<v Speaker 1>share the microphones with you? Two share our seed, a

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<v Speaker 1>collective seed. Stop it. Stop looking at me.

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<v Speaker 2>I was frowning that time. You like, not that good?

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<v Speaker 1>Do it frown again?

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<v Speaker 2>I bo. People always think they have botox, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>because when I frown, it's just very like it's all

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<v Speaker 2>in the front of my eyebrows. But didn't have frontlines

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<v Speaker 2>to save me. I try going up, not.

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<v Speaker 1>There one hundred percent you've had botox?

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<v Speaker 2>Why would I have? People thought I had my brows

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<v Speaker 2>laminader so I got them laminated and I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>see what you mean, Well you really got them, but

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<v Speaker 2>no frown lines. People still can guess my age correctly.

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<v Speaker 2>What is that about? So general?

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<v Speaker 1>Laura?

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<v Speaker 2>It is what it is?

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<v Speaker 1>What are we talking about today?

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<v Speaker 2>Death? Would you rather know when or how you die?

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<v Speaker 2>We did do a bit of a how do you

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<v Speaker 2>say pole around the studio and the majority said when

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<v Speaker 2>so we didn't have an overwhelming yes or no. We're

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<v Speaker 2>split right down the middle.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an awful question. Flex.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if you apply any kind of like morality to it,

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<v Speaker 2>if you make it real, yeah, if you make it real,

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<v Speaker 2>if you make it just a vibe a thought, it's

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<v Speaker 2>actually quite fun. I think it says a lot about

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<v Speaker 2>a person and not much at all, which the best

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<v Speaker 2>conversation topics do that. Yeah, anyway, we're gonna have the

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<v Speaker 2>best time as always. Let's go flex and firs now flex.

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<v Speaker 1>See. I have been reading a book called Something Blue.

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<v Speaker 1>It's by Alex Sarkis.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you mentioned that the other day.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, yes, she is a baddie from the area,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, and I've somehow found a way to

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<v Speaker 1>make that sounds so.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeahs are you reading from a script? She told you

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<v Speaker 2>to say that trying to be cool?

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<v Speaker 1>And in it she talks about how I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if she was saying this or if her character was

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<v Speaker 1>like joking, but she's like, yeah, how Americans think that

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<v Speaker 1>in Australia we all ride kangaroos. Yes, and we see

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<v Speaker 1>this all the time, people being like, yeah, ask Americans

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<v Speaker 1>if they think we ride around on kangaroos or that's

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<v Speaker 1>what that's what Americans think. It's been Simpsons episodes, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>But I want to ask an American, have you ever

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<v Speaker 1>in your life thought that we ride kangaroos? Of course

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<v Speaker 1>you haven't. It's so ridiculous, Like, don't you find it

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<v Speaker 1>funny that we perpetuate this stereotype that doesn't actually serve anyone,

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<v Speaker 1>like it doesn't. It's not helpful for us to think

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<v Speaker 1>that we ride around on karugar.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think Australian started that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if we started, but we definitely perpetuated

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<v Speaker 1>despite all being city folk. It's always the city folk

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<v Speaker 1>that have come here saying, yeah, Americans think we write

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<v Speaker 1>on kangaroos. Americans don't think that you're projecting. You're projecting

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<v Speaker 1>what you think.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's what you think is happening.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, which I find really interesting and it makes me think,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure there's other things that we do perpetuating things

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<v Speaker 1>about ourselves that don't actually ring true, and it's just

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<v Speaker 1>like a lazy thing to do. Give an example perpetuating

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a perfectionist.

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<v Speaker 2>You think you perpetuate that.

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<v Speaker 1>No, that's a bad example.

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<v Speaker 2>I just checking I wasn't shutting it down.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just checking sing no, maybe, okay, good one

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<v Speaker 1>to be the Karen, always perpetuating the fact I'm a Karen?

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<v Speaker 1>Am I actually know? I just like the sound of it,

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<v Speaker 1>similar to the kangaroos.

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<v Speaker 2>And processing in quite quietly, silently. But I got that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean? Yeah, I'm trying to think

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<v Speaker 2>of some examples. What is the benefit of you saying

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<v Speaker 2>you're a Karen if you don't think you actually are? Well?

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<v Speaker 1>I think people just do it for something to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about it. It's like when you say, how are you?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Good. I feel like certain things we perpetuate about ourselves

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<v Speaker 1>because it's actually easier to just not actually explain the

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<v Speaker 1>other way around.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yep, do you know what I mean? Do you

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<v Speaker 2>have any other examples for you, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, oh, being like people think, oh, you're quirky. So

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<v Speaker 1>I could turn around and say, I'm not quirky. Actually

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<v Speaker 1>hate that term, but I just go here and just

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<v Speaker 1>perpetuate it by doing other things that could be considered quirky.

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<v Speaker 2>But you are quirky. You just don't like the term,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think, so let's quickly google that. Okay, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just gonna google the definition of quirky, just so we

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<v Speaker 2>are speaking about the same thing. Define quirky straight into Google.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got having or characterized by peculiar or unexpected traits

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<v Speaker 2>or aspects. No, that's you.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me think of something that you do that's perpetuating

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<v Speaker 1>something that's not actually true.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because similar words to quirky are eccentric, idiosyncratic, unconventional.

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<v Speaker 2>You are quirky.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't want this to be about neflex. I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to illuminate something.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't think you're quirky or you just don't like

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<v Speaker 2>the connotation of the word quirky is annoying by your

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<v Speaker 2>perceptual definition both both. Because this is me tapping the

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<v Speaker 2>screen hopefull, you see it clearer because in this instance,

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<v Speaker 2>the way you look match with the way you dress,

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<v Speaker 2>matched with your humor, matched with your aspirations, matched with

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<v Speaker 2>your karenness, the combination that is quirky.

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<v Speaker 1>The Karen's throwing a bit of a nut in the mix,

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of a nut in the nut frame mix.

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<v Speaker 2>All that's confusing.

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<v Speaker 1>I have don I think if you're listening to this,

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<v Speaker 1>what about myself?

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<v Speaker 2>But what does it matter? Well, what's the point we're

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<v Speaker 2>getting to.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think it's interesting to know, like what think

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<v Speaker 1>about things that you just perpetuate that don't actually serve

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<v Speaker 1>you anymore, because I'm sure like five years ago, I

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<v Speaker 1>would have been like, yes, Jim is an enormous part

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<v Speaker 1>of my personality, but is it really But yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're a gym rat.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Wow, that's just a small example.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a nice little something to share.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for that, my pleasure, doll flex and fruits.

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<v Speaker 2>Earlier this week we talked about how in New Zealand

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<v Speaker 2>you can't name your child Lucifer, sex fruit or anal.

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<v Speaker 2>The week beforehand, we spoke about how you can't name

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<v Speaker 2>your child Linda or Sandra in Saudi Arabia. Today I'm

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<v Speaker 2>letting you know that you can't name your child Natella.

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<v Speaker 2>In France, someone tried to name their child this and

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<v Speaker 2>it was denied and instead the government suggested they call

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<v Speaker 2>their child Ella. Which is nice to come back with suggestions,

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<v Speaker 2>because we all know the worst thing that happens to

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<v Speaker 2>be during a brainstorm is when someone hates your ideas

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<v Speaker 2>and suggests no other ideas. So this was you know,

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<v Speaker 2>ten points to the French government just for this only

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<v Speaker 2>everything else with beefin.

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<v Speaker 1>Nut ella is like if Cinderella busted a nut nutella,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been on a childhood classic. Say Nottella, Someone's got

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<v Speaker 1>to pay that. That's what I'd go back with the

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<v Speaker 1>French government and say, no, no, non, this was intentional.

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<v Speaker 2>No Tella, you multilingual babe.

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<v Speaker 1>Why should it that a brand can therefore like trump

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<v Speaker 1>a child's name.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>This is flex and frooms on CADA. I told you

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<v Speaker 2>that I have been spending my morning commute or my

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<v Speaker 2>morning getting ready listening to nothing, no podcast, no music,

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<v Speaker 2>no stimulus, because I'm trying to at least train my

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<v Speaker 2>brain to get used to not having I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>just noise, Like what am I thinking when there's nothing else?

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<v Speaker 2>Adding to the fodder turns out just dilemmas, just question.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of content for CADA.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it works out well. Actually, I'll just look into

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<v Speaker 2>just a vacant space the room and think, I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like that's what philosophers do or did, And somebody did

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<v Speaker 2>say that podcasters are twenty twenty philosophers.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know who you said that.

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<v Speaker 2>But you asked a couple of weeks ago, would we

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<v Speaker 2>rather be happy or special? I said happy? You said special.

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<v Speaker 2>You disagreed with my answer. Yep, you would preferred that,

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<v Speaker 2>I too said special, but I didn't. Today I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to ask you, would you rather know when you die?

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<v Speaker 2>Or how you die? And why do I have to

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<v Speaker 2>know either? That's not the question. Okay, these contrarians get

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<v Speaker 2>them out of the studio. So would you rather define?

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<v Speaker 2>Would you rather? That's you?

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<v Speaker 1>Most of the time?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I do like definition, So probably if.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to pick one, Yeah, what depends how I die,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd I think I'd want to know when, because how

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<v Speaker 1>how I'm going to die terrifies me. I don't actually

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<v Speaker 1>terrify I die or not. I just I'm scared of

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<v Speaker 1>how it's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>WHOA.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's like anything that you try for the first time,

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<v Speaker 1>it's terrifying. It's like jumping over the precipice and falling

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<v Speaker 1>into a crack. I don't want to know how I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to die, because if I die in a car crash,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to think every time I leave and get

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<v Speaker 1>in a car, I'm going to die. Whereas if I

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<v Speaker 1>know when it is, then I can probably make the

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<v Speaker 1>most it probably would improve my quality of life because

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be more intentional to confirm. You would rather know

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<v Speaker 1>when you die, not how you die. Yes, because you're

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<v Speaker 1>under the impression knowing when you die means what I

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<v Speaker 1>will be able to take my life not more seriously,

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<v Speaker 1>but just appreciate it more because I know how many

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<v Speaker 1>days I have. It's like knowing how many days you

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<v Speaker 1>have in your school holidays. If you just fancy free

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<v Speaker 1>running around not actually knowing, then you're going to like

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<v Speaker 1>get to last day and be like, damn all that time,

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<v Speaker 1>But I actually don't have much time. Does that make sense?

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<v Speaker 2>That reminds me of when I worked in PR and

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<v Speaker 2>I was trying to go from full time to part

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<v Speaker 2>time to toy with the idea of quitting to become

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<v Speaker 2>a DJ. And so I convinced myself that with the

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<v Speaker 2>one extra day I had, I would do so many things. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be fantastic. I'll work on my hobbies, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>go to the post office, whatever, whatever, whatever. I did

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<v Speaker 2>nothing with that extra day, not anything greater than I

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<v Speaker 2>would have done if I was working full time, but

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<v Speaker 2>for the longest time, even while being part time and

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<v Speaker 2>not doing the thing that was my internal narrative. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>using my time so much better. This is exactly what

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<v Speaker 2>I had planned. Every day is so purposeful.

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<v Speaker 1>Liar, Well, that's kind of nice. I'd prefer that lie

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<v Speaker 1>than thinking that, oh I should be not using it,

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<v Speaker 1>like getting yourself all frothed up? What would you prefer?

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<v Speaker 2>I think I'd rather know how I die, because I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to die, and to the when, I think

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<v Speaker 2>would make the idea of death a bit more realistic

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<v Speaker 2>to me, a bit more like finite finite, a bit

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<v Speaker 2>more certain. And I'd rather just have this illusion that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going anywhere at all, just like reincarnate. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be your pet, you know, I'll be a bird,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be a building. I'm not going anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>You're grain of sand if I've got anything to do

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<v Speaker 1>with it.

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<v Speaker 2>But with the hell, I'd be like, ugh, you dummy,

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<v Speaker 2>you die from high cholesterol, your bloody idiot.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you make any changes?

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<v Speaker 2>No? No, you don't play god when you have this information,

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<v Speaker 2>you just vibe because realistically, if today you told me

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<v Speaker 2>that I die drowning, I don't really like swimming that

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<v Speaker 2>much anyway, So at the very least I'm like don't

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<v Speaker 2>need to change my lifestyle that much to avoid potentially

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<v Speaker 2>drowning from swimming. Next thing, you know, someone water boards me.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't see that on coming. But that's okay. But what

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<v Speaker 2>was I going to do differently? And if you said, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not dying from cancer, well okay, it's a possibility

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<v Speaker 2>now anyway. But the when they say yes is sixty

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<v Speaker 2>second birthday. I want know that information.

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<v Speaker 1>I do, but I can really make the most.

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<v Speaker 2>But what do you mean make the most? Create as much.

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<v Speaker 1>As possible, then live on through the seed?

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<v Speaker 2>When have you made the most recently? What does that

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<v Speaker 2>look like for you?

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<v Speaker 1>Doing what I want? When I want?

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<v Speaker 2>When have you done that last weekend?

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<v Speaker 1>Would you do hung out with my mom? Yep? Nah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't actually know. I never know what I want.

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<v Speaker 1>That's life. That's the end of that.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I want to what do you mean make the most?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so fascinated.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, if I if I knew that I was going

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<v Speaker 1>to die when I'm sixty two, ye, I think I'd

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<v Speaker 1>feel good because I know that there's a certain amount

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<v Speaker 1>of time. Like I don't want to be I don't

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily I don't want to jinx myself live on until

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<v Speaker 1>I'm incapacitated and my mind is like tearing up into pieces.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you rather have a deteriorating body or mind?

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<v Speaker 1>Body for sure, Well, deteriorating mind. You are nothing but

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<v Speaker 1>your mind.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you believe that? Yeah? Hectic?

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<v Speaker 1>But as you were, as I was, I just I

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<v Speaker 1>just would hate the idea of living life knowing that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to die a certain way. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>would make me what's it called when you can't leave

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<v Speaker 1>your house aaphobic? Agoraphobic? It would be giving a four agoraphobic?

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<v Speaker 1>Giving you for are I just be watching euphoria.

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<v Speaker 2>The reason why I'm asking this hypothetical question is because

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<v Speaker 2>I think despite the when or where, people's sense of

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<v Speaker 2>like default or normal always corrects itself. So what feels

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<v Speaker 2>like this really wild thing I find out I die

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<v Speaker 2>when I'm sixty two is super spooky until three weeks

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<v Speaker 2>later you're so comfortable with the idea that it's normal.

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<v Speaker 2>For example, like at one point you would have been

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen being like, oh my goodness, one day I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be twenty seven, gonna be so old, it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>so embarrassing. Now you're twenty seven, you're like it's fine. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I just age some days. Yeah, it's fun. Yeah, But realistically,

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<v Speaker 2>for how foreign it was of a concept when you

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<v Speaker 2>were younger, you just have time to sit with it.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like, oh, you know that happened when your parents like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you're not gonna be friends with your school

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<v Speaker 2>friends whoever. You're like, no way, mom, We're gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>best friends forever. And now you're like, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>those people. Yeah. So I think the same concept with

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<v Speaker 2>the idea. I think the idea of death is spookier

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<v Speaker 2>than actually dying. You don't think like, I'm in my

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<v Speaker 2>had like all the possibilities and then what's gonna shut

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<v Speaker 2>down first? And am I gonna feel it? And am

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<v Speaker 2>I gonna be regretful? Well, I'll be sad, will be content,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you'll just die.

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<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, so it doesn't really matter if your hat sad, happy, content.

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<v Speaker 2>Well it matters.

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<v Speaker 1>Well not, it doesn't because you're gonna die.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it matters, but it's not important.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I don't get that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's okay. Not everything's to be understood. What is to

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<v Speaker 2>be understood cannot be explained. As I said, life is

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<v Speaker 2>a circle, and I do like that one, because I

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<v Speaker 2>really believe that is it the ora boris what the

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<v Speaker 2>snake that eats its own tail? Oh okay, you're a

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<v Speaker 2>whole loss for you don't even know it though.

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<v Speaker 1>Or a boris I'm a bit or a boris right now,

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<v Speaker 1>or a bored of this speaking on behalf of myself

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<v Speaker 1>and my people. All right, that's your thought, doll, get

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<v Speaker 1>back to you next time. Yeah, I appreciate you taking

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<v Speaker 1>yourself on this journey with me. Is very hot and sexy.

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<v Speaker 2>This is flex and frooms on.

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<v Speaker 1>A friend of a friend of mine is going through

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<v Speaker 1>something very specific.

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<v Speaker 2>And when you say friend of a friend, are we

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<v Speaker 2>talking in a circle? Out of circle?

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<v Speaker 1>Out of circle?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a friend of someone who I would call

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<v Speaker 1>a friend. So not exactly an acquaintance, definitely not a

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<v Speaker 1>close friend.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, ok, I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But they've put this on Reddit, and then my friend

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<v Speaker 1>has sent me the link saying, hey, this is this

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<v Speaker 1>is I won't say your name.

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<v Speaker 2>And how does your friend know?

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<v Speaker 1>They're just internet sloths?

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, nothing is sacred. Everything is up for discussion. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So and you'll let you know what I'll do on

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<v Speaker 2>a national show. I got to put it out of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so this is what he wrote. Did my best

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<v Speaker 1>friend plan this pregnancy? She told me she was on

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<v Speaker 1>birth control and now she's pregnant after we slept together

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<v Speaker 1>for a few days. She and I have been best

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<v Speaker 1>friends for two years now, so two years is nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean fast friendships, strong connections.

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<v Speaker 1>I get red flags from that. We're close and we

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<v Speaker 1>tell each other everything. Basically, she had never asked me

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<v Speaker 1>out on a date or anything until we found out

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<v Speaker 1>that she was pregnant. She and I have had this

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<v Speaker 1>tension between us before, and we both like each other,

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<v Speaker 1>but never really didn't thing about it or mentioned it.

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<v Speaker 1>Long story short, she and I ended up traveling together

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<v Speaker 1>and we ended up sharing a hotel to save costs.

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<v Speaker 1>You looked straight into this dog the.

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<v Speaker 2>Old share a hotel room to save costs. Full pregnant pipeline.

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<v Speaker 1>She came on to me and we had sex all

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<v Speaker 1>during the trip. I had suggested we use condoms for

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<v Speaker 1>the first time. Sure he did, but she told me

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<v Speaker 1>she was on birth control and that we would be

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<v Speaker 1>pulling out.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's fine. Can I quickly pause for a caveat

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<v Speaker 2>the way we americanize our speech? What is a birth control.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the pill.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well he's on Radity's trying to, like, I understand

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<v Speaker 1>getting with the common people. I don't want to get

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<v Speaker 1>too descriptive, but I tried pulling away from her, at

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<v Speaker 1>least not definition side her, but she would leg lock

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<v Speaker 1>me enough. A few weeks later, she told me that

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<v Speaker 1>she was pregnant. The baby is one hundred percent mine,

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<v Speaker 1>since I'm the only one she's been with it all.

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<v Speaker 1>After I found out about the pregnancy, she asked if

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<v Speaker 1>we could raise the baby together as a and see

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<v Speaker 1>if things would work out. I agreed because I have

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<v Speaker 1>feelings for her and care about her, and now I

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<v Speaker 1>have a baby on the way. I was just thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about it and thought that maybe this was planned or

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<v Speaker 1>do guys think that it is just an accident and

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<v Speaker 1>that she's a one of the very few to get

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<v Speaker 1>pregnant despite being on birth control. Thanks it's giving a

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<v Speaker 1>three syllable word entrapment. However, it kind of feels like

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<v Speaker 1>so he didn't use a condom, so I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>semi asking for it. He's like an asking for its situation.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you are having sex without a condom, you're

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<v Speaker 1>ready resk you take it.

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<v Speaker 2>Is yeah, yeah, I'm sorry. Yeah, it's a bit rich

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<v Speaker 2>on his end, being like, well, she said that she

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<v Speaker 2>was on birth control and I trusted her. Do you

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<v Speaker 2>really know her? Then? Is that your bestie? Now you

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<v Speaker 2>got a co parent? Look at this, The whole thing

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<v Speaker 2>is just messed up. I feel like people, the things

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<v Speaker 2>that we are fearful of in life don't match up

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<v Speaker 2>to the things that we should actually be afraid of.

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<v Speaker 2>Because how are we not scared that every time we

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna have babies? I know, I am, you're scared

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<v Speaker 2>of that. Yeah, I don't want to raise a kid

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<v Speaker 2>ill at least surely you know what I mean. Like

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<v Speaker 2>you have a nice little night out and then suddenly

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<v Speaker 2>you've got the clap and you're like, oh, okay, that's

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<v Speaker 2>not what I planned for. But here we are. And

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<v Speaker 2>even in this instance, right like I would say, for

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<v Speaker 2>the both of them, let's not use the phrase you're

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<v Speaker 2>asking for it. But I feel as though when you

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<v Speaker 2>do things and you don't take all the necessary precautions

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<v Speaker 2>that we've been taught since we were literal children, why

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<v Speaker 2>do you think you're the exception to the rule. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>even if the person you're sleeping with us on birth control.

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<v Speaker 2>You're only doing half the recipe. It's like, Oh, I

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<v Speaker 2>tried to make a cake, and you know, she bought

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<v Speaker 2>the eggs and I know I was meant to bring

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<v Speaker 2>the vanilla essence, but I didn't, and now the cake

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't taste good. Okay, what do you want us to do?

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<v Speaker 2>You knew what you were meant to do, you didn't

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<v Speaker 2>do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I guess so. Oh yeah, you use the packet

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<v Speaker 1>mix and you mixed in water and then you expecting

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<v Speaker 1>it to not make a cake, but it made a cake.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, whoa I would feel Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta be on her side with this one. I

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<v Speaker 1>know it seems crazy, and I reckon she did leg

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<v Speaker 1>lock him in for a purpose. She's a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>older than he is, and I think she's a bit classic.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh didn't you didn't mention this? You gay inside scoop?

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<v Speaker 1>Would I want to do it that way? No? Am

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<v Speaker 1>I desperate for a child right now? No side though,

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<v Speaker 1>because he should know better, he should he should wear

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<v Speaker 1>a condom. We're told all the time to be cleverer,

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<v Speaker 1>to take certain precautions, and it doesn't prevent us from

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<v Speaker 1>being in harm's way. So I'm glad he got a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of medicine.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they both. I feel like, so, what's he

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<v Speaker 2>going to do now? He's gonna be like he's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be a parent? Yes, involved depends. I mean that's

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<v Speaker 2>like a good outcome. I guess if they keep it,

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<v Speaker 2>don't don't dunt.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, they're in America. Maybe so done in America.

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<v Speaker 2>These details after the fact, we've decided what we think

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<v Speaker 2>they're talking about, age gaps. She's older, they're in America.

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<v Speaker 1>Geez.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if we can end this with a with a PSA,

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<v Speaker 2>please do your due diligence and don't expect that the

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<v Speaker 2>exception of the rule won't be your experience. Please do

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<v Speaker 2>not feign a lack of understanding when you do a

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<v Speaker 2>thing that you've been taught how to do correctly incorrectly. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and please always be prepared for outcomes that don't suit

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<v Speaker 2>your best interest. No fearmongering, xturing, just astute observations.

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<v Speaker 1>That will haunt you forevermore.

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<v Speaker 2>That's hectic. I would hate to like be be the

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<v Speaker 2>topic of someone else's gossip like this. This sucks. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>hadn't do it well.

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<v Speaker 1>And there'll be a time. There'll be a time we're

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<v Speaker 1>on the receiving end, not me, but hopefully you.

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