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Speaker 1: Have you managed to lose some weight after listening to

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Speaker 1: the Nutrition Couch podcast this year? Have you given your

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Speaker 1: achieved the goals you've had for yourself, but are now

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Speaker 1: really scared of all the weight you've lost creeping back on. Indeed,

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Speaker 1: weight regain is extremely common, and so on today's episode

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Speaker 1: of The Nutrition Couch, LeAnn and I thought it was

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Speaker 1: time to talk all things preventing weight regain.

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Speaker 2: Hi.

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Speaker 1: I'm Susie Burrel and I'm Leanne Wood, and we bring

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Speaker 1: you The Nutrition Couch, the bi weekly podcast that keeps

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Speaker 1: you up to date on everything you need to know

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Speaker 1: in the world of nutrition, as well as keeping the

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Speaker 1: weight off once you've lost it. Today we discuss the

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Speaker 1: concept of functional nutrition, what it actually means, and how

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Speaker 1: you can really tell if the nutrition information you are

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Speaker 1: getting is coming from a credible source. And our listener question, Leanne,

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Speaker 1: is one that is so common with my clients eating

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Speaker 1: the kid's food leftovers and how about a habit that

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Speaker 1: really is so Leanne. We're actually coming more to what

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Speaker 1: I call the pointy end of the year. It just

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Speaker 1: feels like we're helping on a roller coaster, and it's

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Speaker 1: year and Christmas, and so I often spend a lot

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Speaker 1: of time with my clients talking about how to keep

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Speaker 1: health and fitness front of mind as life gets busier.

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Speaker 1: Have you got any tips that you use yourself coming

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Speaker 1: into sort of party season, whether we can suddenly get

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do, and this probably I don't know if

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Speaker 2: it will help some people, but I'm just really intentional

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Speaker 2: with the things that I say yes to. So, you know,

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Speaker 2: I know this that probably sounds bad, but there's so

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Speaker 2: many social things that you just can't keep up at

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Speaker 2: this time of year. So rather than trying to just

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Speaker 2: few friends there. So I'm sort of more intentional with

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Speaker 2: group events within you know, my friendship circles versus just

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Speaker 2: makes sense, because otherwise you just find like you're doing

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Speaker 2: don't even see each other and poor me is getting

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Speaker 1: It's so hard being you all the invitations that you get.

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Speaker 1: All right, Leanne, you sent me a really interesting article

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Speaker 1: So we said all this stuff in the week and

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Speaker 1: it's not regulated. So unlike a profession like psychology, accounting, law, dietetics,

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. And I think there's this big divide between I'm

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Speaker 2: there's no regulation around that, you don't actually know how

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Speaker 2: hair tests, whatnot. These practitioners tell them cut out gluten,

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Speaker 2: Don't drink coffee, it's bad for your adrenals. Don't have gluten,

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Speaker 2: it's going to make your cyber worth all of this stuff,

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Speaker 2: Any dietitian can be a functional you know, nutritionnus and

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Speaker 2: weekends are crazy. Do the shopping and do the meal prep,

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Speaker 2: you know, on a Thursday night, on a Friday night,

431
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Speaker 2: or just say no to anything Sunday night if you

432
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Speaker 2: need to be home in order to prepare for the week.

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Speaker 2: So my biggest tip in order to keep the weight

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Speaker 2: off once you work so hard to lose it is

435
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Speaker 2: actually planning and preparing and to continue to do that,

436
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Speaker 2: because it's not if you're living in a body that

437
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Speaker 2: is new to you, so you've lost twenty kilos and

438
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Speaker 2: you haven't been here for a while, you have to

439
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Speaker 2: work hard at it to maintain it. People think, oh,

440
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Speaker 2: the hard work was losing the weight. No, no, no.

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Speaker 2: For most people, the hard work is actually maintaining the

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Speaker 2: weight loss over time.

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Speaker 1: I think for me, it comes back to that idea

444
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Speaker 1: that we've talked about many times, which is people believe

445
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Speaker 1: they're either on or off a program, and so when

446
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Speaker 1: they finish and they've achieved their weight loss, they're like, Okay,

447
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Speaker 1: well I'm finished, as opposed to the understanding that it's

448
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Speaker 1: about reformulating that baseline and living or as I would

449
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Speaker 1: describe to my clients, if you're previously been eighty kilos

450
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Speaker 1: and you're overweight, you've been eating and exercising to maintain that.

451
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Speaker 1: So if you want to be seventy or sixty, you

452
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Speaker 1: have to reprogram to be able to sustain that new

453
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Speaker 1: lower But I think I agree with you absolutely on

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Speaker 1: all aspects of the food and the little extra slip

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Speaker 1: in even you know, looking at clients, food die is

456
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Speaker 1: on a daily basis. My clients will have a great

457
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Speaker 1: week or two and then all of a sudden, little

458
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Speaker 1: extras are slipping in, like oh, he's a handful of

459
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Speaker 1: potato chips, and they tend to very quickly slip back

460
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Speaker 1: in Because the biggest predictor of future behavior is past behavior.

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Speaker 1: So if you've always had little extras slipping in all

462
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Speaker 1: those food habits, they'll come back. One hundred percent they will.

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Speaker 1: Which is why touching base with your health practitioner, dietitian, trainer,

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Speaker 1: whoever has guided your weight loss journey regularly for you know,

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Speaker 1: six twelve months after you've achieved your goal, even once

466
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Speaker 1: a month, once every two months will keep you on

467
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Speaker 1: track until it becomes a much more or firmly established habit.

468
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Speaker 1: But the thing I noticed lean is the exercise drops

469
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Speaker 1: off very very quickly. So first of all, you may

470
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Speaker 1: stop moving as much, but then because we're getting older,

471
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Speaker 1: we lose muscle mass, and unless you really proactively keep

472
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Speaker 1: that high intensity cardio slash resistance training as part of

473
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Speaker 1: your program. You don't keep on top of metabolism. So

474
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Speaker 1: it's about making sure that you're almost trying to stay

475
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Speaker 1: ahead of the creep, which will naturally happen because of

476
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Speaker 1: busy life where there's so many calories around and it's

477
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Speaker 1: so easy to be inactive. So on one hand, yes,

478
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Speaker 1: we've got to maintain those food habits, but I think

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Speaker 1: keeping an eye on the weight regularly, or even a

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Speaker 1: waste measurement every week, every two weeks months a month,

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Speaker 1: and or with your health practitioner to help be aware

482
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Speaker 1: and mindful of those changes. But for me, it's committing

483
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Speaker 1: to long term keeping on top of your training and

484
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Speaker 1: making sure you're constantly challenging your body and teaching it

485
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Speaker 1: to burn better, rather than that reductionistic approach, which is

486
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Speaker 1: eat less, eat less, eat less, and then exerciseable for

487
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Speaker 1: a shore term and then it always goes back on.

488
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Speaker 1: So it's multi pronged. Absolutely, it's the self monitoring and

489
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Speaker 1: observation of weight and habits, it's the planning process of

490
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Speaker 1: food and structure most of the time, and then it's

491
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Speaker 1: keeping on top of your exercise habits, so you keep

492
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Speaker 1: on top of weight gain, so you don't let it

493
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Speaker 1: get back on and then have to get it off again.

494
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Speaker 1: You prevent it, and prevention is so much easier than

495
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Speaker 1: trying to get weight off the second and third time

496
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Speaker 1: round you've lost and then trying to keep metabolism up

497
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Speaker 1: and on top of it.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and there's actually research and science to support that.

499
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Speaker 2: And I think on the podcast before, we've talked about

500
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Speaker 2: that massive database in America where people have successfully lost

501
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Speaker 2: I think it's at least ten, if not twenty pounds

502
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Speaker 2: plus and kept it off for at least a year.

503
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Speaker 2: And what we know a consistent theme across most people

504
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Speaker 2: who have successfully lost weight and kept it off is

505
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Speaker 2: that they self monitor and they do very similar things

506
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Speaker 2: during the week that they do on the weekends. They

507
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Speaker 2: continue their exercise on a Saturday and Sunday, they continue

508
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Speaker 2: to eat their vegetables. It doesn't matter if it's a

509
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Speaker 2: Christmas they'll go out and they'll go for a walk.

510
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Speaker 2: Before Christmas, it doesn't matter if it's Christmas, they'll leap

511
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Speaker 2: their veggies anyway. So they do very similar things day

512
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Speaker 2: to day and week to week, and they self monitor.

513
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Speaker 2: They weigh themselves regularly, they use a pair of jeens,

514
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Speaker 2: they do a waste measurement regularly, or they have some

515
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Speaker 2: sort of coach to keep them accountable. And I'll just

516
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Speaker 2: quickly touch on that concept of reverse starting as well, Susie.

517
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Speaker 2: We don't have to eat low calories forever. Certainly, to

518
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Speaker 2: lose weight, we have to be in a calorie deficit.

519
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Speaker 2: We technically need to be eating less than what our

520
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Speaker 2: body actually needs. And then as the weight comes off,

521
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Speaker 2: the metabolism slows down. We generally need to eat a

522
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Speaker 2: little bit less and a little bit less. Once you've done,

523
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Speaker 2: you know you're five, ten, twenty thirty, whatever it is,

524
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Speaker 2: you've lost the weight. You don't have to say on

525
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Speaker 2: low calories forever. You can slowly increase those calories over time.

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Speaker 2: But what happens generally, Susie, is that we don't do

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Speaker 2: it slowly. People go, right, I've achieved the weight loss.

528
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Speaker 2: I'm starving, I feel deprived. Let me eat everything, and

529
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Speaker 2: that's where the weight gain comes on, very very rapidly.

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Speaker 2: Think about a lot of people who do like those

531
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Speaker 2: bodybuilding comps and bikini comps. Those girls are like stuffing

532
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Speaker 2: their face with the doughnuts, backstages as it comps over,

533
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Speaker 2: because they feel so deprived because they've had nothing in like,

534
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Speaker 2: you know, six twelve months time. So I think it's

535
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Speaker 2: really important to do it healthily, do it sustainably, and

536
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Speaker 2: maintain what you're doing long term. All of those healthy

537
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Speaker 2: habits should be maintained. But you get to eat a

538
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Speaker 2: little bit more food later on as well, So sure

539
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Speaker 2: you can have a little bit more soul foods, a

540
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Speaker 2: few more calories to play with, but the gradual increase

541
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Speaker 2: in calorie load has to be slow over weeks, not days,

542
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Speaker 2: or the weight will come back on very very quickly.

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Speaker 1: True, true, true, All right, Well, hopefully that gives some

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Speaker 1: people some tips. But if you're not planning, and if

545
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Speaker 1: you're not constantly changing your exercise regime, these are the

546
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Speaker 1: two basic things you can do as well as just

547
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Speaker 1: keep an eye on those scales or wats particularly and

548
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Speaker 1: as we move into the summer period where there's plenty

549
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Speaker 1: of food around it another little trick actually, I think

550
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Speaker 1: I've mentioned this before. I like, you know, a light

551
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Speaker 1: day once or twice a week is a bit of

552
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Speaker 1: a regular reset for all of us, particularly coming into

553
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Speaker 1: the party season where there's lots of socializing. All right,

554
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Speaker 1: len And now our listener question is something that comes

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Speaker 1: up with my clients or the time, and I'll broadly

556
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Speaker 1: term it about eating the kid's food. And is that

557
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Speaker 1: such an issue? Now? This could be as simple as

558
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Speaker 1: eating some of or picking at some of their leftovers

559
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Speaker 1: on their plate at the nightly meal. For younger kids,

560
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Speaker 1: it could be picking on their snacks in the cupboard.

561
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Speaker 1: Or you might have teenage kids and they've got package

562
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Speaker 1: snacks because they've got high enagy demands, and you grab

563
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Speaker 1: a packet of those when you're feeling tired. Or it

564
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Speaker 1: may be with little kids their lunchbox leftovers because you

565
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Speaker 1: might be feeding them snacks throughout the day. Now, this

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Speaker 1: familian is one of the most difficult habits to break,

567
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Speaker 1: but it's also one of the most toxic habits. And

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Speaker 1: one of the reasons that is is it's so mindless

569
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Speaker 1: because when we're grabbing, for example, a couple of messy

570
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Speaker 1: monkeys here, a rice cracker there, a spoonful of pasta here,

571
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Speaker 1: you know, it doesn't really seem like anything much, and

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Speaker 1: you're arguing that you're not wasting food and you're actually hungry,

573
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Speaker 1: and your energy is really being focused on the children.

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Speaker 1: But this kind of mindless munchie adds up to hundreds

575
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Speaker 1: and hundreds of calories throughout the course of the day.

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Speaker 1: It absolutely works to prevent weight loss because what happens

577
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Speaker 1: is you're then disrupting your natural hunger and fullness signals

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Speaker 1: because you never get really hungry because you graze all

579
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Speaker 1: day like small children, and you tell yourself it's okay

580
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Speaker 1: because it just slips in or you're not even aware

581
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Speaker 1: of it half of the time. And I can't tell

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Speaker 1: you how many times I discuss this with my clients,

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Speaker 1: ranging from mums of young kids right through to my

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Speaker 1: teenage mums who are then eating the kid snacks in

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Speaker 1: the cupboard. So yes, it is a problem, and I

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Speaker 1: think it's a habit that if you can learn to

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Speaker 1: break and have very clear rules on what's kids food

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Speaker 1: and what's not. One of the tricks I use myself

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Speaker 1: to try and avoid eating my kids snacks is if

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Speaker 1: I do buy snack food, I try and buy stuff

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Speaker 1: that I don't actually like very much, so I'm less

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Speaker 1: likely to kind of nibble on it, like even when

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Speaker 1: I'm making the lunches in the morning. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: really easy just to have one or two of those

595
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Speaker 1: little snacks, so I try and not have flavors of

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Speaker 1: things that I actually like myself. I also keep it

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Speaker 1: in a separate container in my pants. I don't have

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Speaker 1: kind of snack food and things readily accessible or to

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Speaker 1: be seen. So if I would say to the kids,

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Speaker 1: if you want a snack, that actually have to go

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Speaker 1: into a tub to find it, so it's very separate

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Speaker 1: from the regular food. And then I also tend to

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Speaker 1: have a lot of vegetables around, particularly in the evening.

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Speaker 1: I give my little boys chopped tomatoes to give them,

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Speaker 1: peas and a cup just routinely one because it's easy

606
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Speaker 1: way to get their veggies in and I'm usually running

607
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Speaker 1: late with dinner, so it just means that they can

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Speaker 1: have that while they're waiting, or I'll hand them a carrot.

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Speaker 1: So then if I'm sort of a bit picky, which

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Speaker 1: many of us are, I will just sort of eat

611
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Speaker 1: a bit of a carrot and stuff as well. So

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Speaker 1: there's certainly strategies to make it easy, but I tend

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Speaker 1: to be quite strict on this with my clients and

614
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Speaker 1: say you've got to go cold turkey and just stop

615
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Speaker 1: it and have a rule in your mind that you

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Speaker 1: don't eat the kid's food. Otherwise you're just constantly giving

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Speaker 1: in to bits of banana bread, here, a piece of

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Speaker 1: muff and there, a cookie there. And it's a really

619
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Speaker 1: bad habit because you actually don't even notice that you're

620
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Speaker 1: eating it. And as I said, it can add up

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Speaker 1: to hundreds and hundreds of calories and really, you know,

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Speaker 1: put a stop to weight loss in a calorie deficit.

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Speaker 2: And I think of the thing that I find my

624
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Speaker 2: client struggle with the most is eating the food of

625
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Speaker 2: the kid's plates because they don't want to waste food.

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Speaker 2: And I'm in the same boat at the moment. Mea

627
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Speaker 2: is about nine months at the moment, you know, we're

628
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Speaker 2: doing baby lead weaning. We're trying lots of things, foods, textures,

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Speaker 2: that sort of thing, and she sort of just picked

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Speaker 2: up that habit that I think around this age most

631
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Speaker 2: kids do, where they like to pick it up and

632
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Speaker 2: throw it on the floor. And it just breaks your

633
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,679
Speaker 2: heart because it's like, Mea, I've slaved over that for hours,

634
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 2: making you that delicious meat ball, or I steamed the

635
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Speaker 2: potato to perfection, You've thrown it on the ground and

636
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Speaker 2: then honestly, like I'll make a bit of toast for her.

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Speaker 2: Because she's got an allergy to peanuts and sesame, we

638
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Speaker 2: have to just be particular with the brands of you know, breads.

639
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Speaker 2: A lot of breads have sesame seeds in this, so

640
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Speaker 2: we've got a special type of bread for her. We

641
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Speaker 2: put it in the freezer, and I always just toast

642
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Speaker 2: up a piece and I put a little bit of

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Speaker 2: like avocado and hebseeeds, or a little bit of cream

644
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Speaker 2: cheese and some cheer seas or something on it, and

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Speaker 2: then I normally slice it into three pieces. And of

646
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Speaker 2: course she's only a little she only eats sort of

647
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Speaker 2: one and kind of tosses the other two, and David

648
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 2: and I tend to rescue it and just nibble on it.

649
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 2: So we're both as bad as guilty as each other

650
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 2: of eating off her plate, purely because we're like, we

651
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 2: don't want it to go to waste. And just like

652
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Speaker 2: any other baby, someday she nearly polishes the plate off,

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Speaker 2: and other day she just picks it and kind of

654
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 2: throws it around and doesn't, you know, doesn't eat a thing.

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Speaker 2: But me, being the fabulous mum dietish that I am,

656
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 2: and a gut heal specialists. I want that diversity in there.

657
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 2: So Susie, I'm giving her lots of different things to try.

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Speaker 2: I just can't bring myself to give her just a

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Speaker 2: little bit of sweep petat or just a little bit

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Speaker 2: of bread and that's it. I'm giving her four or five, six,

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00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 2: seven things on her plate so she can get messy

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Speaker 2: with it, she can touch it, she can feel it,

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Speaker 2: she can experience tastes and textures. But on the same boat,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I don't want that to go to waste.

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00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 2: So I hear your mums, it's hard to, you know,

666
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Speaker 2: put food in that bin. But I think you just

667
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 2: have to maybe bring down the overall load in your

668
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 2: meal or serve yourself a bit smaller portions. If you

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Speaker 2: do find is snacking up the kid's plates or you're

670
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Speaker 2: cleaning up they leftover, is because you don't want it

671
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 2: to go to waste. And I'm not saying to just

672
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 2: throw the food out because I myself don't like waste,

673
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 2: and David and I don't do that. We absolutely do

674
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 2: eat what Mea doesn't kind of eat, even if it's

675
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,239
Speaker 2: we have a big catchy thing on her whome. Yes,

676
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Speaker 2: So it doesn't necessarily go into the floor. It just

677
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 2: goes into the catchy and David and I'll scoop it

678
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Speaker 2: up and eat it. Particularly it's pretty dinner or a

679
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Speaker 2: bit hungry, but we will account for that, and I'll say, David,

680
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Speaker 2: pull back on your portion. You don't need as much.

681
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Speaker 2: We just polish, you know, you just polish off me

682
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Speaker 2: as leftovers. So we're a little bit better in trying

683
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Speaker 2: to regulate that afterwards.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, Well, David, I'm sure he just loves it when

685
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Speaker 1: you say to him, now, David, just pull back, because

686
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Speaker 1: you've had a bit of me as food. That's very sexy.

687
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Speaker 2: He gets its dietitian wife.

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Speaker 1: That's a fun conversation.

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Speaker 2: It loves you six packs. So you know it comes

690
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Speaker 2: with the territory cause I love having a dietitian one.

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Speaker 1: I've just given in with Chrissy his states anything. So

692
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: it is what it is. But I find I'm just

693
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Speaker 1: thinking what I do I find the sweet potato fries

694
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Speaker 1: that I make for the kids, or really find it

695
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Speaker 1: difficult to not munch a few of those. So we're

696
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Speaker 1: not taking away from the fact that it is difficult.

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Speaker 1: But the first step in taking control of it is awareness.

698
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Speaker 1: So even just taking that time to think, actually how

699
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Speaker 1: many mouthfuls am I having? I think having a rule

700
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Speaker 1: around it so I'm not going to pick before or

701
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Speaker 1: I'm going to have an alternative. But you know, probably

702
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Speaker 1: the final take home messages if you don't want to

703
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: eat it, don't keep it in the house. So if

704
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: you do have really tempting stuff for kids, ultimately you'll

705
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Speaker 1: eat it. So you got to either keep it really

706
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Speaker 1: out of sight or don't bring it in at all

707
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Speaker 1: and try and pick flavors and things of chips or

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Speaker 1: crackers or whatever is your vice to not be as

709
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Speaker 1: tempted when they cross your path. I do find that

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