Speaker 1: The Flex and Rooms Daily Podcast.
Speaker 2: Far out, Guys, before we get to the podcast.
Speaker 3: On the show, we're in it.
Speaker 2: We're on the podcast, Oh true. But before we get
Speaker 2: to the bit where I'm telling you about what's the meat,
Speaker 2: I also talk about my experience with Flume on the
Speaker 2: live stream. I have something very controversial that occurred, and
Speaker 2: that was that I was so when you get the
Speaker 2: live stream with TikTok, I'm seeing their comments roll through,
Speaker 2: and I was kind of a moderator showing them to
Speaker 2: Flom et cetera. And I'm looking while I'm trying to
Speaker 2: fucking run the show, I look down and someone's like,
Speaker 2: Flume cross Susan Boyle, Like I look like Susan Boyl.
Speaker 2: You know, I've got a picture.
Speaker 4: I'll show me and like it's a similar energy.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I gotta google it too.
Speaker 4: The worst thing about it is that, you know, it's
Speaker 4: not like someone sat with your brand for years and
Speaker 4: they've just connected the doctor. Now it's the first impression,
Speaker 4: the first vibe.
Speaker 2: That's come through is sus and boil.
Speaker 4: It must be such an uncanny thing for audiences because
Speaker 4: you've unlocked You've unlocked a vintage character in somebody's mind,
Speaker 4: and I it's here.
Speaker 2: Also fainly here Susan boils such a queen. The ship
Speaker 2: that we put that woman through. We well talking, I
Speaker 2: mean when I say.
Speaker 4: We no, see no, it's always when Fumi wants to incriminate.
Speaker 3: Herself, it's always wee wee wee wee wee.
Speaker 4: And then it's like, well, FLEXI believes this, and FLEXI
Speaker 4: said this, and then get it out.
Speaker 3: You're part of people hate criming Susan.
Speaker 2: You say wee as well?
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I mean it.
Speaker 2: I mean it too. I just remember an idol that
Speaker 2: was the whole thing is like she's a she's a
Speaker 2: middle aged woman. Like it was about her being a
Speaker 2: middle aged woman.
Speaker 3: TikTok to say that they thought you were younger.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to get into it. Also, never forget,
Speaker 2: while we're on the topic, I did an interview with
Speaker 2: that dude from Stranger Things years ago, and I was
Speaker 2: looking good on the camera. Oh, I have no doubt
Speaker 2: about it, and we're like turtle neck, makeup was fleaky,
Speaker 2: et cetera. And someone commented people who listened to Bogus
Speaker 2: no one I know about to say it was like
Speaker 2: she looks both twenty and sixty at and it's true,
Speaker 2: I really do. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I don't know how you do the internet, because if
Speaker 4: those things are coming from my DMS, i'd be out
Speaker 4: of there.
Speaker 2: This is the mentivases you raising this. I'm fucking holding
Speaker 2: on by the skin of my teethe, ready to fall
Speaker 2: at any moment. I'm thinking of backup plans twenty and sixty.
Speaker 2: Though you see the vision, anyone else in the root
Speaker 2: the vision.
Speaker 3: I think it's maybe how you come across on camera.
Speaker 4: Wow, let's shut up. You're selling it in the flesh.
Speaker 4: It's giving, like you know, early thirties. In the flesh.
Speaker 4: You gotta find the median.
Speaker 2: I don't want to sell dressing. I remember this TikTok
Speaker 2: that someone's like when you see people over the age
Speaker 2: of twenty three wearing like mesh tops, like you serious.
Speaker 2: I've never seen that before, but I went or what you.
Speaker 1: Say, co cameras, cop cameracy, fleck and FMS.
Speaker 4: I've been trying not to do a lot of thinking.
Speaker 4: I've been trying to do a lot of living because
Speaker 4: one thing about me, I've learned it in therapy. I've
Speaker 4: got control issues. I didn't resonate with that statement, but
Speaker 4: then everything kind of makes sense. Seriously, that's all I say, literally,
Speaker 4: though it's all there. So I definitely try not to
Speaker 4: think too much because then I can't fight the urge
Speaker 4: to want to control what's happening around me at all times.
Speaker 4: But every now and then I let a rogue thought
Speaker 4: enter my mind, and then I'll share it with the world.
Speaker 4: I was thinking a lot about some new interactions I've
Speaker 4: been having, some new friends I've been making. Oh they're
Speaker 4: not friends, but you know, casual acquaintances. And there's this
Speaker 4: one common thread that keeps comment up. They are all
Speaker 4: people who are obsessed with The Simpsons, all adults who
Speaker 4: feel as though they the whole like being of their
Speaker 4: character was defined by them watching The Simpsons when they
Speaker 4: were younger. The references their characters, the scenes, the one liners.
Speaker 4: And I don't know what it is because I'm not
Speaker 4: a Simpsons person. Of course, I know Homer, I know Barr,
Speaker 4: I know Lisa, But aside from those March I don't
Speaker 4: know any of the other characters.
Speaker 2: About Maggie the Little Baby.
Speaker 4: Maggie the Little Baby, I don't know any of the
Speaker 4: other little characters. I don't know where they live. I
Speaker 4: don't know where they went to school. I don't know
Speaker 4: the stories, none of.
Speaker 2: Them Springfield Elementary. Can I least off some characters? No, No,
Speaker 2: Moe Barney, Lenny and Lenny and Carl, Doctor Apoo, Miss
Speaker 2: Crabapple Snake.
Speaker 4: You're proving my point exactly. There is no reason why
Speaker 4: somebody in there when they're mid to late twenties, scramp.
Speaker 4: I know this much about a show they watched when
Speaker 4: they were ten, maybe even younger. And the thing that's
Speaker 4: getting me is what is it about me that's attracting
Speaker 4: these types of people?
Speaker 3: Number one and number two? If an adult is looking back.
Speaker 4: On their life and is saying this show really informed
Speaker 4: who I am as a person, and I don't have
Speaker 4: that same experience, there's so much we're not going to
Speaker 4: fundamentally understand about each other. Like I find myself feeling
Speaker 4: ostracized from conversations. I'm like, I don't understand what is
Speaker 4: going on. And Simpsons people really are always searching for
Speaker 4: Simpsons people. So I went on, it's true. Can we
Speaker 4: get a hands up, who's a Simpsons person in the room?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: See exactly, I'm.
Speaker 1: Brooks every one, Brooks Crook.
Speaker 2: Do you see what I'm talking about.
Speaker 4: At all times, I'm just surrounded by Simpsons people, and
Speaker 4: it's not often I'm on the fringe of a discussion.
Speaker 4: It's not often I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 2: This is like when you talk about Drake. Literally I
Speaker 2: feel left out. That's okay, we all have our things.
Speaker 4: So what I'm struggling to understand is it's a bit
Speaker 4: of like it's like an early twenties life crisis of
Speaker 4: mine I'm having currently is what is it about me
Speaker 4: that's attracting these people or vice versa. Why don't I
Speaker 4: connect with the show? And is it too late to start?
Speaker 4: I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: Like Diddly do the Flanders who lives next door? So
Speaker 2: Flanders lives next door to the Simpsons anyway, solanders Okay,
Speaker 2: I will say I am surprised. I think, Okay, I
Speaker 2: don't want to. I don't know if I want to
Speaker 2: increminate myself, no, get it out. But probably when I
Speaker 2: was like fifteen, I went to a house party and
Speaker 2: I did something for the first time. But I freaked out.
Speaker 2: Oh all right, I freaked out, Okay, And when I
Speaker 2: was having my little minim and TV, what was racing
Speaker 2: through my mind my parents, of my parents. I need
Speaker 2: my mom and dad. I need my mom and dad
Speaker 2: and Simpsons. I literally had a breakthrough while I'm sitting
Speaker 2: in the middle of the forest. I left the party
Speaker 2: and sat in the forest, blown and I was seeing
Speaker 2: Mom and Dad Simpsons. Oh my god, Simpsons is the
Speaker 2: Simpsons is the meaning of life? No, yeah, and I
Speaker 2: still believe it. Sometimes I'll sit down and I'll watch
Speaker 2: Simpsons and the Simpsons and it starts literally the messages
Speaker 2: in the Simpsons. I believe the person who created it
Speaker 2: has good morals. Okay, it's morally sound. Simpsons is life,
Speaker 2: And the reason why it comes up so much is
Speaker 2: because it meant a lot to all of us. Yeah,
Speaker 2: except for.
Speaker 4: You, Except for me and my brothers watched it. Anyway,
Speaker 4: I'm at the beginning of a thought, and I do
Speaker 4: think there is something to say about what TV shows
Speaker 4: you were impacted by as a child, and who you
Speaker 4: are as an adult, what your humor is like, how
Speaker 4: you see the world. But I think I'm maybe six
Speaker 4: months away from understanding what I need to understand.
Speaker 2: What's like. I go back and watch Austin Powers, and
Speaker 2: I'm both shook and saddened by the fact that I
Speaker 2: don't actually have a single original thought, like any kind
Speaker 2: of thing that I do as a human based project
Speaker 2: has exactly based project humor. The alien being is coming out.
Speaker 2: Oh dear flex and frooms FLEXI. I was out this weekend,
Speaker 2: just the one that passed. You know me. I love
Speaker 2: getting out and about on the weekend.
Speaker 4: You get near it, you're out. You're an outside girl.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to be like you.
Speaker 2: Friday night, of course, I'm gonna have a little little
Speaker 2: drink really down the pub over to my friend's house.
Speaker 2: I'm all about that five pm Natty Wine lifestyle. Start
Speaker 2: with one natty wine, then a cocktail, then maybe a bottle.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to join you because I am the person
Speaker 4: who goes out for a thing, for an event, so
Speaker 4: people don't call on me for a casual Oh we're
Speaker 4: just popping around because usually I'll say no, but I'm
Speaker 4: like no, I'm trying to change. I'm trying to make
Speaker 4: the mundane exciting, not wait for somebody's best friend's birthday
Speaker 4: house party, where house rave.
Speaker 2: Yeah you don't want to be a seeker. Yeah, you're
Speaker 2: going to make it happen as we as we say so.
Speaker 2: I was out at Cafe Freeders. It is a Sydney establishment.
Speaker 2: I would say, hand on heart, it's the only place
Speaker 2: in Sydney that goes off in a row. Seriously, guys,
Speaker 2: I'm chasing a vibe every weekend. I want to go dance.
Speaker 2: I want to go to the party. The only place
Speaker 2: is I can dance and go party are gay bars.
Speaker 2: That's true, all right, and I'm happy on a Thursday.
Speaker 2: But I would also love to be out with my
Speaker 2: brethren that you know, potential potential leads. Potentially you know, okay,
Speaker 2: Gary to be amongst potential leads. Yeah, you want to
Speaker 2: get near at Anerstam. But yeah, I was a Cafe
Speaker 2: Freeders and I always turn up when I get to
Speaker 2: Cafe Fraders. Just got that vibe about it. And I
Speaker 2: was with a maid of mine and he told me
Speaker 2: this story about whether or not he should I'll just
Speaker 2: cut to it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, let us hear it, all right, my chest is tight.
Speaker 4: Last time you did this, you told a nipple story.
Speaker 2: I don't know if he still live up to that,
Speaker 2: but so I have a question.
Speaker 5: So started talking to this guy on a dating app
Speaker 5: and we matched his really hot slice sliceay Sleigh. However,
Speaker 5: Commer a really good friend of mine, like I recognize
Speaker 5: the guy I matched with a really good friend of
Speaker 5: mine went on a.
Speaker 6: One date with him on a first date.
Speaker 5: And I know this because my dear friend, honestly a
Speaker 5: few months back, was just like, hey, I went out
Speaker 5: on this date with this guy, like really good vibes,
Speaker 5: but nothing ever came from it. Since then, my friend
Speaker 5: has gone on several other dates.
Speaker 6: Is seeing someone else, But.
Speaker 5: I also just can't help but feel a bit guilty
Speaker 5: that I'm now talking to this guy. So I guess
Speaker 5: my question to the group chat is does one date
Speaker 5: constitute me not speaking to this person because of my friend?
Speaker 6: But how valuable is one date? Is that off limits?
Speaker 5: Because I feel like everyone dates everyone, Everyone goes one
Speaker 5: date with each other, you know?
Speaker 2: Anyway, I love you all by So I was there
Speaker 2: obviously in the flesh and plot twist, Oh the person?
Speaker 2: How we're going to start with the plot twist? I'm
Speaker 2: plot twisting. Let's started the podcast and it turns out also, sorry,
Speaker 2: I keep doing like tangents, but everyone, I'm getting better
Speaker 2: at telling stories. Would you say it's a long journey.
Speaker 3: We've got one nod in the room.
Speaker 2: We've collectively put in at least one hundred hours of talking.
Speaker 2: Unless is as god.
Speaker 3: As it and that I've got that's.
Speaker 2: Got a cat. But anyway, plot twists the mate who
Speaker 2: I was with the guy that he was talking about
Speaker 2: when on the date with the other person, he was
Speaker 2: coming to meet us. So my mate was like, oh
Speaker 2: my god, the guy's coming.
Speaker 4: Wait wait wait wait sorry sorry, So the guy that
Speaker 4: you were already hanging out with in the voice note,
Speaker 4: in the voice note, the date isn't coming, but the
Speaker 4: other friend who went on the date is coming.
Speaker 2: He's coming.
Speaker 3: Can we give them some fake names?
Speaker 2: Please? All right? First name is Jack.
Speaker 4: Is the guy that you're hanging out with. Jack is
Speaker 4: the voice note the voice note. Barry is the date.
Speaker 4: Charlie is the friend coming. Yes, great, So Jack, Jack
Speaker 4: and Charlie. You know you don't know Barry the date.
Speaker 2: Two hearts.
Speaker 3: Let's keep going.
Speaker 2: Forget the date, forget the date. Okay, So it's you're
Speaker 2: with Jackson when Jack and Barry's coming, and Barry's the
Speaker 2: one that Barry is the mate. No, Charlie is the mate. Okay,
Speaker 2: Charlie's mate. Jack and Charlie. Oh, my god, and Jack
Speaker 2: is like, oh my god, should I tell Charlie? And
Speaker 2: me and my mate are like, I said no, why
Speaker 2: would you even bring that up? My other mates like,
Speaker 2: why would you make this a thing? Just let it die.
Speaker 2: But the issue was the guy that he was going
Speaker 2: on a date with has a full young your name
Speaker 2: like her name you'll hear once in your whole life.
Speaker 2: So I said, don't say anything. He didn't end up
Speaker 2: saying anything. What would have you done?
Speaker 4: I am the type of person I only know loyalty
Speaker 4: to my favorite people. That's my best friend, my soulmates,
Speaker 4: and my mom, not even my siblings. I really dogs,
Speaker 4: because you got to pick your favorites. And I know
Speaker 4: my favorites hand on heart. And I'm not talking about
Speaker 4: people that I'm happy to extend myself for, people I'm
Speaker 4: happy to be polite to. When it comes to extreme
Speaker 4: acts of loyalty, I reserve that for a fair few ight.
Speaker 4: I'm for this Robbie, he's not getting the call up?
Speaker 2: Na na nah? What about Maxwell? Yeah nah?
Speaker 3: They're my siblings right like, and they're just my sibling.
Speaker 2: Okay, what about you? But my mom?
Speaker 4: Like, that's my mom, that's my kin Like I ride
Speaker 4: for her. You know what I'm saying. It's a different
Speaker 4: dynamic respect my siblings. I'm a go to war for
Speaker 4: my mom. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It's a bit different. So if it was like my
Speaker 2: mom was like, I went on a.
Speaker 4: Date with this guy, I really like you, I'd be like, Okay,
Speaker 4: you know, it's the one day.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to go there.
Speaker 4: If it's like some if it's a friend of a
Speaker 4: friend and it's one day, I don't It's not a
Speaker 4: big deal to me, especially because you've been going on
Speaker 4: other dates since and you're seeing someone new.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't go mention it willy nilly, because you've gotta
Speaker 3: be careful.
Speaker 4: Not everybody is your friend, and not all information can
Speaker 4: be shared freely because you never know who's going.
Speaker 2: To grasp cut you in future.
Speaker 4: You never know who has the power to make or
Speaker 4: break what you want to come to fruition so badly.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So in this instance, I think Jack, your friend should
Speaker 4: go on this date. Okay, I think they should. If
Speaker 4: it happens to escalate, you don't go to Charlie and
Speaker 4: ask for permission, you bring it up in a contact
Speaker 4: and say, oh my god, isn't it so funny. I'm
Speaker 4: also going to date with the guy that you went
Speaker 4: on a date with a ha ha. And if for
Speaker 4: some reason Charlie has an issue, then they can say, oh,
Speaker 4: that's so strange. I would have thought it was inappropriate. Okay, Cool,
Speaker 4: we're having the conversation now.
Speaker 2: No, no for next time, ask for forgive.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but not even that. It's just like, provide some
Speaker 4: context around I literally babes the pursuit of love. It's
Speaker 4: not a game for the week.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 4: And if I if I had to rule out every
Speaker 4: single person that I had a minor interaction with, that
Speaker 4: they had minor interactions with, I'm ruling out everyone, especially
Speaker 4: in Sydney, especially in our friend groups, especially for the
Speaker 4: type of people we are and the type of people
Speaker 4: we date, there'd be no one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's look to the quick community.
Speaker 4: For advice on how to do this, because every gay
Speaker 4: guy I know, every lesbian I know is dating somebody's ex,
Speaker 4: someone's best friend, someone's whatever.
Speaker 3: You get through it, because what are people?
Speaker 2: Not property?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: True, not property? Community, community, Share it around.
Speaker 4: Share what would you do or what advice did you give?
Speaker 4: You said, not to say anything.
Speaker 2: I don't say anything at all. It's too fresh anway.
Speaker 2: They're not even been on a date. Yeah, exactly. You
Speaker 2: might hate him. Yeah, there's nothing there and you know what,
Speaker 2: You're right. You can't get in can't get in the
Speaker 2: way of a little Sydney boothing. It's hard out here,
Speaker 2: it's not looking good.
Speaker 4: But also in this instance, I feel like this is
Speaker 4: why you can't be everybody's friend friend friend like that, because,
Speaker 4: like I said before, my best friend has this. It's
Speaker 4: not an affliction, but she has this. I'm gonna call
Speaker 4: it an issue where she's loyal to a fault to anyone.
Speaker 2: Like.
Speaker 4: She's a very open, accommodating, agreeable person. She feels everything
Speaker 4: really deeply, and she can she can empathize really, really heavily.
Speaker 4: So a party friend of ours might say, I really
Speaker 4: like this guy, and like, you know, he doesn't really
Speaker 4: like me, and so on and so on, and then
Speaker 4: he's ruled out for my friend and my babes.
Speaker 2: Come on, we don't even know them like that.
Speaker 4: Take no prisoners, take no prisoners. Everyone's an option. Even
Speaker 4: if they're dating someone else, they'll be single eventually and
Speaker 4: I'll be there.
Speaker 2: The divorce is are coming through flies on, She's on.
Speaker 4: Be serious, people are I'm serious these days people are
Speaker 4: leading with child play.
Speaker 3: We're not in high school anymore. Get off it. I'm
Speaker 3: getting upset.
Speaker 2: Brother, you are twenty four.
Speaker 4: It's not yes, it's thanks for sharing.
Speaker 3: I do like that.
Speaker 2: I like when you come with the voice notes. They're
Speaker 2: always good. It's true.
Speaker 4: I wonder what it be like to be your friend
Speaker 4: knowing that, like when you think you're out and about
Speaker 4: having a nice little drunk.
Speaker 3: Time like Rooms is like tell me the story. Wait,
Speaker 3: can you voice for the party?
Speaker 2: I can't hate it, but everyone always loves it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: fans are around the spot. They're rogue.
Speaker 1: This is Flex and Frooms on Cada on Sunday.
Speaker 2: The other day I did a live stream with Flume
Speaker 2: for TikTok. It was a TikTok Flume collaboration, very exciting.
Speaker 2: One of the first ones done in Australia was four.
Speaker 2: It's in ten years since his first album Flume. WHOA
Speaker 2: So I will say half the live stream, we're having
Speaker 2: a few demons about getting older and actually never thought
Speaker 2: it was gonna be me. I was going to be
Speaker 2: twenty four forever Alas. And of course I could tell
Speaker 2: you all about the show, how it went great, how
Speaker 2: we did lots of challenges. We did ice bucket challenge.
Speaker 2: I saw that we did mentos and coke. The one
Speaker 2: thing that he wouldn't do is cinnamon challenge.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The point where we had a phone call before he
Speaker 2: was like, we're not doing cinnamon challenge.
Speaker 6: Did you do it? No?
Speaker 2: Oh, He's like, I don't want to vomit. That's fair,
Speaker 2: fair enough, King. But on the way in the uber there,
Speaker 2: I mean the uber, and I had a massive bag
Speaker 2: full of light clothes because we're doing ice jackets, so
Speaker 2: I needed to change. And I brought my colleener Strata
Speaker 2: two hundred dollar water bottle, yeah naturally wear and hair,
Speaker 2: and I put it in the back of the uber
Speaker 2: and I'm like, it's outside my bag. I'm just gonna
Speaker 2: put it down, but I'll make sure I take it
Speaker 2: out of the uber.
Speaker 4: I don't know where this is going. It's not looking good, brother,
Speaker 4: it stays in the uber. Come on through me. Quick pause,
Speaker 4: quick pause for when fruminated. The personality test, The question
Speaker 4: asks through do you always put your things where they belong?
Speaker 4: Does everything have a place? Room says strongly agree, and
Speaker 4: then begins to tell me that she thinks that personality
Speaker 4: assessment doesn't work.
Speaker 2: Let's continue. Leave it in there obviously, get to the venue.
Speaker 2: We start doing the run through and goes down. I'm thirsty.
Speaker 2: The Kleena stride a body bottle is nowhere to be found.
Speaker 2: I'm freaking out. I spent two hundred dollars. Literally, I
Speaker 2: knew that. I knew it was a mistake, but I
Speaker 2: couldn't help myself calling over blah blah blah blah. I'm
Speaker 2: going to go pick it up later. However, Flume gets there.
Speaker 2: He's wearing a really beautiful fit. Okay, the feet was
Speaker 2: fitting all by ensemble, kind of like a Jackard jacket. Okay,
Speaker 2: that's embossed new money. He's been successful for ten years.
Speaker 2: I think that's old money.
Speaker 4: Sis, it is ten years old money. No, old money
Speaker 4: is generational. When he has some kids and they have kids,
Speaker 4: talk to me, all right, get him on the scene.
Speaker 6: I'll laugh.
Speaker 2: I've got his American number now. Oh wow, mean flame Bessies,
Speaker 2: Bessie bars and twins. Well yeah, in a livestrom, I
Speaker 2: kept saying, oh, I'm with my big brother Flume, and
Speaker 2: people like obviously TikTok people. I don't think they're very
Speaker 2: well versed in so I don't know you like that
Speaker 2: about that. It's like, wait, they're actually siblings, because Flume
Speaker 2: does have a sister. Anyway, looking at his beautiful fit
Speaker 2: and he's got a T shirt and a black T
Speaker 2: shirt with a beautiful rhyme stone applaque butterfly on the front,
Speaker 2: and I thought, oh my god, on the life chum,
Speaker 2: I'm like, whoa, where's that top from. He's like, I
Speaker 2: don't know, have a look at the tag kaleini strada
Speaker 2: calleen strada coming in at all angles. It was a
Speaker 2: slap in the face Nightmara. I'm so sorry, and I
Speaker 2: couldn't believe it. It's like I keep manifesting all these
Speaker 2: things and that was a big manifestation. But I will say,
Speaker 2: get in the water bottle tonight. So everyone who's been
Speaker 2: along with me with the water bottle saga, it will
Speaker 2: be returning with me.
Speaker 3: And the driver for your mistake.
Speaker 2: Me's sending a terse am. So, guys, I think someone
Speaker 2: stole my water butt.
Speaker 4: The water bottle's gone missing, and somebody needs to reveal
Speaker 4: its location.
Speaker 2: Now, I you know what I was thinking. I have
Speaker 2: an air tag for my suitcase when I went to
Speaker 2: Europe Ripay you ner forget I think I need to
Speaker 2: affix the air tag to the water bottle. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: think that's what I need to do or carry a bag.
Speaker 2: Yeah blah blah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is flex and frooms.
Speaker 4: I don't like when I am the problem. Like as
Speaker 4: soon as I got my acrylics back on my fake nails,
Speaker 4: I did it for a work shoot, and now I'm
Speaker 4: dealing with the fact that it is not simple to
Speaker 4: live life with acrylic nails. I don't know what we've
Speaker 4: been talking about as fake nail wearers. I can't scratch
Speaker 4: properly because the tips of my nails are are not sharp,
Speaker 4: so I can't scratch using a hair brush to scratch
Speaker 4: my body. Do you see what I'm saying. I can't
Speaker 4: button my clothes properly. I'm suffering my seat but I
Speaker 4: need to click it with my knuckle. I can't do fingers.
Speaker 4: I hate that it's not sexy.
Speaker 2: It's like remember when there'd be those like Guinness Weld
Speaker 2: record videos of the people with a really really long
Speaker 2: nails and It's like, how do they wipe their ass?
Speaker 2: How do you wipe your ass? You know I can do.
Speaker 2: These are only about a centimeter long, so I can
Speaker 2: still make do.
Speaker 4: But I'm saying that like my functionality is dropped by
Speaker 4: twenty five percent roughly, give or take. Like I was
Speaker 4: saying though before you started calling out my name, I'm
Speaker 4: going for it. I'm doing the knuckle scratched knuckle nostril.
Speaker 4: I was thinking a lot about whether being a good
Speaker 4: person is worth it? What does it even mean? And naturally,
Speaker 4: the FBI agent in my phone is like, say no more, babe.
Speaker 4: I've got a thousand videos for you to watch on
Speaker 4: this exact topic, and I'll love every single one of them.
Speaker 4: So I want to share this one with you. Put
Speaker 4: on your listening ears for this one. Put on your
Speaker 4: comprehension hats. It is a little bit long, but it
Speaker 4: is worth listening to being.
Speaker 7: A good person worth it. I study at Harvard in
Speaker 7: two thousand and nine called that into question. Let me
Speaker 7: ask you this, Do you think it a good character
Speaker 7: will motivate others to treat you well?
Speaker 6: Evidence suggests not.
Speaker 3: The evidence suggests no good deed go unpunished.
Speaker 7: Psychologists Daniel Wagner and Kurt Gray ran an experiment to
Speaker 7: see how ordinary folks treat people of varying moral reputation.
Speaker 7: They divide his humanity at large into four moral categories,
Speaker 7: good like mother Teresa, bad like Ted Bundy, neutral like
Speaker 7: a bank teller, and victims like orphans, for instance. Then
Speaker 7: they took a survey after the participants were told to
Speaker 7: imagine a pill that creates pleasure, and half were told
Speaker 7: the drug creates pain. Then they were each told they
Speaker 7: have three of these pills, and they were asked to
Speaker 7: divvy them up between different pairs of those moral types. So,
Speaker 7: for instance, here are three pain pills, how are you
Speaker 7: going to divide them up between the Dali Lama and
Speaker 7: an unknown.
Speaker 6: High school teacher.
Speaker 7: Some of the results were perfectly predictable. Ted Bundy got
Speaker 7: more pain, orphans less, But there was a surprise in
Speaker 7: the data. Who deserves more pleasure and less pain? The
Speaker 7: Dhali Lama or a random radiology tech, A good person
Speaker 7: or the neutral person.
Speaker 1: You'd think the good, right, That's not how.
Speaker 2: It played out.
Speaker 7: The good people were allocated less pleasure than the neutral
Speaker 7: nobody's and significantly more pain. Thus, the authors sardonically observe.
Speaker 6: Virtue is its own punishment.
Speaker 7: So there you have it, be principled at your own risky,
Speaker 7: Thanks for watching.
Speaker 2: I'm Abraham, Abraham. Shout out.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Abraham.
Speaker 2: He's on Live for you. Do you hear what he's saying?
Speaker 2: So what is that telling us?
Speaker 5: There?
Speaker 4: Really isn't that big of a reward being a good person, Because,
Speaker 4: like you started to mention before, through me continue.
Speaker 2: As I was saying before, I think that people assume
Speaker 2: that good people do it altruistically, and therefore they're getting
Speaker 2: their little spikes of happiness from that fact alone. And
Speaker 2: I actually think I've got my own little cracky I
Speaker 2: think that people who do good make neutral people feel bad.
Speaker 2: For example, I'm a neutral person by design, by choice.
Speaker 2: I'm just doing whatever I want to do. Wouldn't say
Speaker 2: I'm doing anything to hurt anyone necessarily, If I do it,
Speaker 2: it's not intentional.
Speaker 3: Nah, they always say that one.
Speaker 2: My intent was not to hurt. However, am I a
Speaker 2: good person? I think it makes sense, Like when I
Speaker 2: think about who I want to make happier, it's the
Speaker 2: neutral person who's going about their business, not trying to
Speaker 2: be good, not making me feel bad. You know, they're
Speaker 2: just like one of me. I relate to the neutral person.
Speaker 2: Let that be a lesson.
Speaker 4: I was raised by a very good person, the kind
Speaker 4: of person who goes out of their way to do
Speaker 4: good things. And I love being amongst that because I
Speaker 4: just get to be bad with my full chest. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. But every now and then I
Speaker 4: do a good thing, and I say, this is not
Speaker 4: good for branding. Okay, people are getting used to this.
Speaker 4: People get used to it. I do one too many
Speaker 4: designated drivers and everyone's like.
Speaker 2: She's such a nice galea.
Speaker 4: No, no, not me, not me. So the point of
Speaker 4: that story is to say, well, not a story. It
Speaker 4: was a study that overwhelmingly good people don't experience additional
Speaker 4: amounts of good from others because people might presume your
Speaker 4: cup is already full, it overfloweth you don't need any
Speaker 4: more of.
Speaker 2: This good because you have so much you can give
Speaker 2: to others.
Speaker 4: Neutral people, however, are exactly that neutral and often experience
Speaker 4: more good from the average person. Do that information what
Speaker 4: you will shout out to all my neutral people?
Speaker 5: Think?
Speaker 2: It also relates before we cut, I'm ready to stop.
Speaker 1: You're listening to flex and frooms on Kada room.
Speaker 4: Just saw me rub my nostril with my knuckle. Here's
Speaker 4: the thing, everyone, I was a pollen hay fever denier.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 4: I've lived in Sydney's East my whole entire life. I've
Speaker 4: never had any problems with pollen. People used to say
Speaker 4: they had hay fever. I used to say, you're just
Speaker 4: sick and admit it. You've got the flu, You've got
Speaker 4: a cold, Okay.
Speaker 2: Stop lying.
Speaker 4: And then last week I was in Sorry he was
Speaker 4: doing a photo shoot and I was like, what is
Speaker 4: this in the air?
Speaker 3: What is this in the air?
Speaker 4: Is this a new new drop of species, a new bug?
Speaker 4: Turns out that's pollen. Since my first experience with it
Speaker 4: twenty four.
Speaker 3: Years on this earth, I've seen pollen in the flesh.
Speaker 3: It is everywhere. Suddenly my eyes start tingling.
Speaker 2: What's that?
Speaker 3: I start sneezing, my throat closes up.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I start doing some research. I don't go to Instagram store,
Speaker 4: I go to Google. I say what's up with the pollen?
Speaker 4: They said and don't quote me. I didn't fact check.
Speaker 4: But a combination of climate change lanina too much wet,
Speaker 4: not enough dry means that there's been a pollen overproduction
Speaker 4: by about thirty to forty percent. Wow, Okay, think about
Speaker 4: the asthma havers. They're not well since children.
Speaker 2: I have athma, oh asthma, and I'm fine, So I
Speaker 2: reckon that's on you.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, Have you been to Surrey Hills?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I used Livingitary Hills.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying in the last six six to nine months.
Speaker 4: I'm saying in the thick of it right now. Have
Speaker 4: you been in the elements?
Speaker 2: I have? I really have. You know what I will
Speaker 2: do the city divide Melbourne vest Sydney. When I go
Speaker 2: to Melbourne, I'm sneezing, coughing, goffer wing. I can't get
Speaker 2: enough of that when I'm in Melbourne. So you know
Speaker 2: it could be a lot worse. Think about that way.
Speaker 2: Do I want to tell you about this fun fact?
Speaker 2: Did you read about? This is very much apure Alley
Speaker 2: researchers have grown brain cells in a lab and successfully
Speaker 2: made them play pong hit a Mark King, there's something
Speaker 2: you might need. You set it out too easy. You
Speaker 2: said it out too easy. Oh my god. Well, I
Speaker 2: feel like we talk about this human invention and interventional
Speaker 2: lot on the show, and I read some of the
Speaker 2: comments and someone's like, what are they going to do?
Speaker 2: This poor game is going to become sentient because we
Speaker 2: don't really understand how the brain works. Maybe the sense
Speaker 2: of being alive is found in a single brain cell.
Speaker 2: What do you think about this development?
Speaker 4: Let the new brain suffer. I don't see what the
Speaker 4: issue is. I was so sorry. If we have made
Speaker 4: these brain cells and they're suddenly sentient and their life
Speaker 4: is playing ping pong. We're all in the same existence anyway.
Speaker 4: They're doing ping pong, we're working. We all have to
Speaker 4: suffer together. Oh that's really good, better than us. Do
Speaker 4: you want to playing ping pong for science? You don't
Speaker 4: want to do that?
Speaker 2: True? I mean the work thing is a good shout exactly.
Speaker 2: We all have our own I mean, they wouldn't know
Speaker 2: the outside world outside of pongs.
Speaker 3: I might argue we're suffering more than they are.
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