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Speaker 1: Jonesy and Amanda in the morning. Is satam?

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Speaker 2: The doctor is in the house.

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Speaker 1: Can I talk now?

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Speaker 3: Is that enough? Well? Look, lots of things changing as

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Speaker 3: we inch out of lockdown. Kids are back to school,

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Speaker 3: Commuters are going on to public transport or trying to

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Speaker 3: stay away from it as much as they can. Sports

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Speaker 3: making a comeback. For better or for worse. It's time

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Speaker 3: to chick not I'm not going to say it's for

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Speaker 3: better for worse. It's time to check in with.

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Speaker 2: Doctor watch it.

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Speaker 3: But we're coming out of lockdown for better or for worse.

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Speaker 3: Our digital health expert, Resident doctor Dr Andrew Watchford, Good morning.

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Speaker 1: How are you morning?

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Speaker 2: Amanda and I are sitting here in our little singlets,

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Speaker 2: in our underpants on the little bench, ready for the

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Speaker 2: examination from you.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm not thoroughly unnecessary or whatever keeps you coming.

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Speaker 2: Firstly, let's just talk about the president of the a

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Speaker 2: m A, Doctor Tony Bartone, which is the coolest name

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Speaker 2: in the business next to yours. He's worried about all

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Speaker 2: the good work that our vaccination efforts have done, by

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Speaker 2: all the anti VAXX information that's getting so much airtime

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Speaker 2: at the moment. Curiously, we are the most vaccinated country

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Speaker 2: in the world, and I dare say this is why

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Speaker 2: we don't have ongoing health issues.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, and I think we need to put it

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Speaker 1: in perspective. If you'll go at numbers, it's about one

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Speaker 1: to three percent of the world that will forever be

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Speaker 1: anti vaxes and they like to make a huge amount

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Speaker 1: of noise to a small group of people that potentially

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Speaker 1: listen to what they're saying. Then there is a group

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Speaker 1: of people that we'd like to describe as vaccine hesitant.

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Speaker 1: Now it's completely reasonable for people to question and to

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Speaker 1: think about what they do, whether it's taking a medication,

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Speaker 1: whether it's getting an operation, or whether it's having a vaccination.

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Speaker 1: The key is understanding good information, the real evidence and

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Speaker 1: the research behind why vaccinations are so important. And when

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Speaker 1: it comes to something like what we're experiencing at the moment,

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Speaker 1: where there's so many headlines, so much news about everything,

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Speaker 1: you can understand why it's a great environment for the

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Speaker 1: small percentage of anti vaxxis to raise their voice again.

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Speaker 1: But it's also a place where we need to make

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Speaker 1: sure we're getting good information to people who want to

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Speaker 1: learn about vaccinations and understand why they are just so.

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Speaker 2: Important because I was reading about with the autism thing,

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Speaker 2: so it would it be fair to say if you

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Speaker 2: had a predisposition to autism, the age that starts to

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Speaker 2: manifest is when the child gets vaccination shots. So in

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Speaker 2: the past the parents would look for something to blame

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Speaker 2: and they said, well, little Timmy had a vaccination shot

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Speaker 2: two months ago, so the reason he's autistic is because

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Speaker 2: of that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what it comes down to is cause and effect.

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Speaker 1: And I think the problem was that there was a

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Speaker 1: very large study some years back where somebody who's been

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Speaker 1: improven to be completely wrong, tried to make the link

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Speaker 1: between the measles, mumps, rebella vaccine and autism. And basically

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Speaker 1: the link just came down to the fact that at

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Speaker 1: that point, yes, kids were getting vaccinated, and at that

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Speaker 1: point was when we started to see when we start

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Speaker 1: making diagnoses around people that have or children that have autism,

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Speaker 1: you could say the same for that's when children start

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Speaker 1: to learn to speak, or to write, or to feed themselves.

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Speaker 1: So you can, eventually, based on the same make the

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Speaker 1: linked vaccines make children speak. It's just there was no science.

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Speaker 1: There is no science, and there was actually study last

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Speaker 1: year twenty years study into over six hundred and fifty

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Speaker 1: thousand children that were immunized and those that want it

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Speaker 1: and prove there is absolutely no link between vaccinations and autism.

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Speaker 1: But unfortunately, it's just one of those things that is

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Speaker 1: perpetuated and dragged along and I think it will be

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Speaker 1: forever talking about it. Unfortunately.

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Speaker 2: Well, we're getting the good news.

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Speaker 3: Here can ask your question. This is something that Robin

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Speaker 3: has asked us to ask you. I'm a sixty four

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Speaker 3: year old male, relatively fit to look after myself. I've

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Speaker 3: been pressured into getting a flu vaccine because of my age,

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Speaker 3: but I haven't ad any flu symptoms for fifteen years.

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Speaker 3: What are your thoughts?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so the idea of the flu vaccine is again,

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Speaker 1: it's to protect you against getting influence. There are Influenza

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Speaker 1: can be extremely dangerous disease, not only for you but

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Speaker 1: for everybody that you know. So the reason behind influenza

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Speaker 1: vaccines or any vaccines is one to protect yourself, but

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Speaker 1: at the same time it's an important job at protecting

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Speaker 1: those in the community that are more vulnerable. Now, first,

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Speaker 1: sixty four year old fit believes they've never had influenza.

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Speaker 1: And if you say you've never had influenza, then you

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Speaker 1: probably have never had influence because it is a horrible,

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Speaker 1: horrible thing, and once you've had it, you know you've

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Speaker 1: had it. You're doing it not only to protect yourself

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Speaker 1: from getting severe pneumonia ending up in hospital and ICU,

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Speaker 1: but protecting friends, uncles, parents' young children, because for them

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Speaker 1: it can be deadly, and that's why we need to vaccinate.

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Speaker 2: There you go, Well, it's great to talk you, andrewsy.

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Speaker 2: Listen to the people who studied at university, not celebrity chefs,

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Speaker 2: not radio DJs, not football players wives, and listen to

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Speaker 2: people that went to medical school.

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Speaker 1: The way I like to describe it is if you

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Speaker 1: got on a plane that was about to land in

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Speaker 1: the Hudson River, let's say crash, and you got to

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Speaker 1: get on a plane with with Sully, the avia, the

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Speaker 1: pot we had went to school and learned how to fly. Well,

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Speaker 1: you went up there and Tom Hanks was in the

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Speaker 1: in the cockpit. Which plane would you actually want to

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Speaker 1: be on? You want to be on the plane with

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Speaker 1: the guy with the qualifications and the expertise and all

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Speaker 1: the research, not the actor playing the guy that has

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Speaker 1: all that.

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Speaker 2: I like Tom Hanks, but you're not getting up to

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Speaker 2: Sally and say look, I wouldn't mind doing my own

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Speaker 2: research on this before you put it down.

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Speaker 1: Thank yourself, exactly right. We don't do it for pilots.

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Speaker 1: I think we need to leave it up to the

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Speaker 1: vaccination experts that point us in the right direction.

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Speaker 2: Well done, Thank you, doctor Andrew. We'll talk to you

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Speaker 2: next Tuesday. For more information, visit digital Health dot gv

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Speaker 2: dot au De doctor is no longer in the house

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Speaker 2: well for this week, Jez Thanks.

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Speaker 1: Andrew joined the and Amanda in the morning at one