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Speaker 1: Jersey and Amanda gem Nation.

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Speaker 2: Well, we're about to see Rachel Griffiths like we've never

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Speaker 2: seen her before. She's back in a brand new series

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Speaker 2: called Madam, based on a woman who finds herself living

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Speaker 2: in New Zealand running an ethical escort agency.

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Speaker 1: It's happened to all of us, Rachel Hi.

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Speaker 3: An ethical escort agency.

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Speaker 4: Is an organic, is very organic, It's very it's very woke.

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Speaker 1: This is this is for sure.

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Speaker 3: Can you have like a woke profit?

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Speaker 1: You can try.

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Speaker 4: And I think that's what makes this show fun is

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Speaker 4: there's a woman who's discovered in New Zealand after several

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Speaker 4: other side hustles have not worked out. And I think

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Speaker 4: most small businesses in Australia are started by women and

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Speaker 4: most of them have kids. And it's how do I

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Speaker 4: get you know, how do I sustain this and have

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Speaker 4: a work life on my own terms? So she discovers

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Speaker 4: that this line of business is decriminalized legal in New

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Speaker 4: Zealand and she thinks, oh that's interesting, goes to check

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Speaker 4: one out and goes, oh, this is a bit skanky.

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Speaker 4: I thought it'd be a bit nice. I've given it's

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Speaker 4: all kosh, it's all above boards, all legit. So she

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Speaker 4: decides that she's going to have a kind of female

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Speaker 4: empowered ethical, ethical escort agency.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, And does that make a difference to the

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Speaker 2: kind of clients that they get? I mean, is it

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Speaker 2: is it valu added to the business or you're the

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Speaker 2: only one that cares.

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Speaker 1: I think she cares.

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Speaker 4: She cares about She probably cares about this more than

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Speaker 4: some of the women that work there. And I think

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Speaker 4: some of the women in our show actually really value

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Speaker 4: this kind of change of vibe, you know, particularly things

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Speaker 4: like she gets rid of the lineup, which is the

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Speaker 4: meat market of this business, you know, where you just.

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Speaker 3: Why not familiar with this?

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Speaker 1: But what happens? Does that actually happen? I've seen it

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Speaker 1: in movies. Is that real? I think so? Yeah? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And that's for the statu So you walk in its

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Speaker 1: police lineup and you choose who you want.

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Speaker 3: Do they have like a I've never been into a brothel,

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Speaker 3: don't look like you're surprised? And do they have like

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Speaker 3: a meaning thought? Is something at the top? Is it?

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Speaker 1: Like I didn't.

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Speaker 4: I went to a collective as part of my research.

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Speaker 4: I went to a collective and women came to this

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Speaker 4: collective to talk to me about it, and I was

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Speaker 4: so slightly nervous about being photographed or seeing not that

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Speaker 4: I don't trust the media coming out of a brothel

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Speaker 4: and having to explain in you know, the headliner in

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Speaker 4: the Daily Man or a worker exactly, I'm researching my show.

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Speaker 1: But this is a real I mean the whole show.

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Speaker 1: It's a comedy.

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Speaker 4: It's a key week comedy, and I think what makes

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Speaker 4: it fun is usually when this industry is portrayed in

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Speaker 4: drama particularly, it's kind of gritty and it's it's a

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Speaker 4: bit skanky, and it's exploitative. And even if it's kind

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Speaker 4: of looking at the dark side of this from a

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Speaker 4: kind of hybrid up, well it says it's worthy, but

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Speaker 4: actually it's something kind of a bit titillating. At the

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Speaker 4: same time, they're kind of having having having it both ways,

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Speaker 4: you know.

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Speaker 1: Exactly.

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Speaker 4: But this is a very female twist because I think

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Speaker 4: when we sit around talking about these things sexes and

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Speaker 4: all of that, or what you were talking about earlier

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Speaker 4: that I don't think you can talk about about the

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Speaker 4: various desserts is we are laughing, right when women talk

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Speaker 4: about sex, we laugh. And yet when we see it

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Speaker 4: portrayed in these shows. It's it's always so like nasty and.

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Speaker 2: Duk and New Zealand's famous for its comedies so funny,

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Speaker 2: UIs are.

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Speaker 4: So funny, and I think it's I thought were kind

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Speaker 4: of the same species, you know, but I think we

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Speaker 4: have a really different sense of humor, and I think

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Speaker 4: the Aussie humor can say it's a little bit put

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Speaker 4: the knife in. You know that I was only joking.

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Speaker 4: If you're upset, it's like we've we we we rip

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Speaker 4: each other like we're siblings that just want to want

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Speaker 4: it to hurt a little bit. But the key we's like,

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Speaker 4: oh sorry, cuz, oh that would be too far, you know,

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Speaker 4: and you kind of believe like they don't want anyone

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Speaker 4: kind of hurting at the end of the you know

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Speaker 4: that taking the piss out of each other.

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Speaker 3: I warma, I read someone and a sex work and

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Speaker 3: be more beneficial than a trip to a psychologist.

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Speaker 4: Well this was This is an interesting discussion, I think

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Speaker 4: because I spoke to people in the industry and some

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Speaker 4: of them are like, you know, my best clients like

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Speaker 4: an extremely large man and he just cannot negotiate this

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Speaker 4: sexual space comfortably in any other way.

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Speaker 1: And so you know, she does the.

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Speaker 4: Girlfriend experience and looks at him and makes him feel

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Speaker 4: good about who who he is. There's other you know,

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Speaker 4: people with the disability, and you kind of go for

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Speaker 4: some people.

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Speaker 1: Would it not make you feel better?

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Speaker 2: Gives you back some dignity, dignity and you feel sexy

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Speaker 2: and like somebody looked in your eye and went.

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Speaker 1: You know you're hot? How good do you feel that?

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Speaker 1: And in the NDA, this is terrible, this is terrible

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Speaker 1: that the taxpayer dollars.

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Speaker 4: Are paying for sex workers, but we'll pay three hundred

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Speaker 4: bucks for the psychologist.

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Speaker 1: I think there'd be some people like that. Go I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you which one. It makes me feel better.

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Speaker 3: It makes sense.

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Speaker 4: I think some more realistic about this kind of Theramy's

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Speaker 4: and the human intimacy and loneliness, Like loneliness is an epidemic.

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Speaker 1: And it is a disease. It's classified as that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I always I remember the ads in the back

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Speaker 3: of the newspaper for various brothels around town. I always

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Speaker 3: read them. And there was one over there, there was one,

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Speaker 3: and there was this one and just said I will

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Speaker 3: do what your wife or girlfriend won't do. And I thought, well,

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Speaker 3: if I took a pack of chops and said, can

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Speaker 3: you cook me this?

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Speaker 4: Well, I reckon, that's more. You know, we think that's

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Speaker 4: going to be some sexual kink, but maybe it's actually

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Speaker 4: cooking in the eyes and going your hot baby.

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Speaker 1: It's that. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: One woman I spoke to she said a lot of

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Speaker 4: her clients were in their seventies, late seventies. She had

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Speaker 4: a widower in his eighties and he doesn't want to

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Speaker 4: be ten years from his last you know, sense being

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Speaker 4: touched and held and loved and the.

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Speaker 1: Confusion of relationships.

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Speaker 2: This is an easy, an easy way of getting what

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Speaker 2: you need, an easy way.

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Speaker 4: And some older women for whom that's just you know,

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Speaker 4: died ten years ago, and you kind of go, well,

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Speaker 4: do you split up or do you go I still

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Speaker 4: have this need? And the other one's like, I really don't,

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Speaker 4: but love you, love our garden, love the dogs.

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Speaker 1: Sure, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Can we not be a bit more grown up about

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Speaker 4: how we how we can outsource many of the things

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Speaker 4: we need as people?

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Speaker 1: Someone can take the bins out, Rachel.

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Speaker 3: It's great to see and I'm glad everything's peachy pie

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Speaker 3: after the misunderstanding producer meg everything.

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Speaker 1: So so we have a big hug out there. I

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Speaker 1: was mortified.

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Speaker 4: Were you nervous when I was coming? I came in,

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Speaker 4: I was like, Okay, where is she?

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Speaker 3: Where?

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Speaker 1: Where's the one?

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Speaker 4: I demented that day. She's gorgeous, not at all.

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Speaker 3: Madame Premiery is tonight nine o'clock on Channel nine and

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Speaker 3: nine now, Rachel Griffiths, thank you for joining me.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Always love you to see it.

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Speaker 2: It's been so nice to come in and your view.

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Speaker 2: I know it's incredible, isn't it?

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Speaker 4: Does it bringing people back to the office to go,

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Speaker 4: oh gee, do I have to leave my little flat

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Speaker 4: and come here?

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Speaker 1: I know that's the only reason we're here.

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Speaker 3: We should rent out of the view.