1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Last year when I did watch the show. 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 2: That was something that really did stand out to me, 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 2: the fact that there wasn't really cultural diversity for me 4 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 2: watching especially Australian TV. A lot of the times I 5 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 2: don't really see people who look like me, or ever 6 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 2: really feel like I'm represented a lot of the times 7 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 2: now because of social media and like you know, apps 8 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 2: and whatnot, that a lot of people don't really fight 9 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,639 Speaker 2: for a person or what they want. That it's kind 10 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 2: of like, if something doesn't work out, you know, chances 11 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 2: are two weeks later, they're probably going to find, you know, 12 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 2: someone new. 13 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 1: It's kind of like when someone. 14 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 2: Doesn't believe in you, you kind of have to take, 15 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,279 Speaker 2: you know, the lead and actually go for what you 16 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 2: want because you can't really rely on other people to 17 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 2: give you what you want. 18 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 3: Hi, and welcome to another episode of Outspoken, Out Under 19 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 3: the Influence episode. You're joined today by journalists Amy and 20 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 3: Sophie Torba, and we are thrilled to be joined by 21 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 3: Love Islander Cynthia. Cynthia, we're really excited to have you 22 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 3: on the show because you were our favorite islander, so 23 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 3: we were so sad when you didn't win. 24 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, thank you. 25 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 2: It's so funny when people say that, because when I 26 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 2: was in the villa. 27 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 1: I was always just like so crazy and I was like, oh, am. 28 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 3: I can you tell us a little bit about what 29 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 3: life was like before Love Island and what motivated you 30 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 3: to apply? 31 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, for me, I've just always had. 32 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 2: In's of trouble like with dating and just you know, 33 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 2: meeting someone who is compatible. So I watched the show 34 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 2: last year and like absolutely loved it, found it really entertaining. 35 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: And then I remember. 36 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 2: Watching it and being like I should apply, like I 37 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 2: want avoid friend, but it was one of those things 38 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 2: that I just I didn't really think that I would 39 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 2: get it, but I was like, but I'm also that 40 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 2: sort of person who, you know, regardless of if I 41 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 2: think I'm going to get something, I'm just gonna try. 42 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: So I applied. 43 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 2: Not really thinking much of it. And so I just 44 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 2: finished UNI and was very much to say, like figuring 45 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 2: out what I wanted to do, and then had like 46 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 2: a casual job working like in sales and then just 47 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 2: doing modeling and acting, which is kind of like what 48 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 2: I predominantly wanted to do, and I was just kind 49 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 2: of you know, living my day to day life like 50 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 2: seeing friends, just completely normal and then applied for the show, 51 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 2: and then they just kept asking me to like sending a. 52 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: Video coming for the interview. 53 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 2: And it probably wasn't until uh that I got shortlisted 54 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 2: that it actually became real to me, because before then 55 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 2: I was just kind of like, oh, it'd be like 56 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 2: a really like cool to meet someone not have any distractions, 57 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 2: and and then I was like, Okay, I guess this 58 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 2: is happening now. 59 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 3: I think that's a refreshing to hear that you actually 60 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 3: applied for the show and weren't scouted, because I think 61 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 3: that's why so many people fell in love with you, 62 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 3: because you just seem so genuine about finding someone. 63 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: Oh thank you. Yeah, I wasn't scouted, I didn't fly 64 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 1: for the show. 65 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 3: And you were the first woman of color to ever 66 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 3: appear on Love Island Australia. Did you feel any pressure 67 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 3: to portray yourself in a particular way. 68 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 2: No, I definitely think like last year when I did 69 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 2: watch the show, that was something that really did stand out. 70 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 4: To me, the fact that there wasn't really. 71 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 2: Cultural diversity, Like there was a friend Soise who I 72 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 2: think her parents are like Asian. 73 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: And English or something like that. 74 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, yeah, so there was Francoise and also like Amelia. 75 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 2: But then for me watching especially Australian TV, a lot 76 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 2: of the times I don't really see people who look 77 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 2: like me or ever really feel like I'm represented. But 78 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 2: I've lived in Australia since i was seven, and I've 79 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 2: become used to like being a minority, so it's not 80 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 2: really something that like phases me, and just the sort 81 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 2: of personality that I have, it's really hard for me 82 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 2: to like pretend. 83 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: To be something that I'm not. 84 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 2: So I did think it was really cool that I was, 85 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 2: you know, one of the first people of color to 86 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 2: be on you know, Love Island Australia. But I just 87 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 2: was myself, which is all you can really do. And 88 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 2: it is nice that other girls, you know, are able 89 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 2: to see me and be like, oh, I can do this. 90 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 2: But I never really put that pressure on myself to 91 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 2: be like I've got to be a certain way. 92 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you did such a great job of it. 93 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 3: I think the thing it was difficult because on the 94 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 3: first night there was a bit of a race debate 95 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 3: sparked amongst viewers in the initial pairing, and this this 96 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 3: race debate was of course also in the media, so 97 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 3: I don't know whether people were actually genuinely you know, 98 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 3: debating this at home. But so, yeah, how did it 99 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 3: make you feel to be the last female contestant? Pick? 100 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 3: Did you think it had anything to do with, you know, 101 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 3: this race debate people were talking about, or do you 102 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 3: think it's just you know, people have their type or 103 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 3: other people had different connections with people earlier on. 104 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting because when on that very first day, 105 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 2: like everyone was just so nervous and like none of 106 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 2: us knew what we were doing or what were supposed 107 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 2: to do. But I just remember, like, prior to going 108 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 2: into the villa, I always knew that I wasn't going 109 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 2: to be everyone's type, as weird as that sounds, and 110 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 2: that was something that did really, you know, scare me 111 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 2: in terms of like going in being a person of color, 112 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 2: and I feel so Australia is quite like, you know, 113 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 2: open minded and is becoming more progressive. But then I 114 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 2: also knew that a lot of people on that show 115 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 2: or going in have probably never dated anyone like outside 116 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 2: of their race and stuff. But then when I was 117 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 2: standing there, I also feel as though, like I was 118 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 2: so nervous, just you know, just stepping forward for someone 119 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 2: and them not choosing me. And then obviously I had 120 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 2: Matt right at the end, but then I kind of 121 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 2: just stepped forward for him because I was like, well, 122 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 2: there's no one else coming, so I have to, like 123 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 2: I have to step forward for someone else. But I 124 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 2: think the biggest thing, like when I went into the show, 125 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 2: I knew that it was going to be a bit 126 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 2: more difficult for me personally, Like I just I just 127 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 2: knew it. But I just constantly reminded myself not to 128 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 2: really take on, just to not get caught up in 129 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 2: my head and be like, oh, people aren't choosing me 130 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 2: because of my color also, and I feel as if 131 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 2: I had thought that, then I wouldn't have really enjoyed 132 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 2: my time in the villa. And when I was chosen last, 133 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 2: it wasn't really something that truly crossed my mind. It 134 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 2: kind of was just like it was what it was, 135 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 2: and I was I was really happy to be, you know, 136 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 2: coupled up with Sam, and I later on told him that, 137 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 2: and I could and at the time I could tell 138 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 2: that he was like a really chilled, you know, genuine guy. 139 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 2: So I just I just tried not to take it 140 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 2: personally and I was just no one knew what they 141 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 2: were doing because I was just like, it is what 142 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 2: it is. 143 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 3: And that's what I really love about the show, that 144 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 3: people base their first selection purely on appearance, and then 145 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 3: when people suddenly get to know each other's personality, it 146 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 3: all changes. Did you find that that you judged people 147 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 3: instantly and then we're like, oh my god, they're actually 148 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 3: a lot cooler than I thought they were. 149 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 4: Yeah. 150 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: Completely. 151 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 2: I remember like on the first day and especially like 152 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 2: doing the initial sort of coupling that I was, I 153 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 2: was just so nervous, and then that first day was 154 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 2: just so special because I started to talk to all 155 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 2: the guys and the girls as well, and I was 156 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 2: just like blown away by how like cool and open 157 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 2: minded and. 158 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: Like just with everyone, Like everyone. 159 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 2: Was just so cool, and I was kind of just like, 160 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 2: this is crazy that all these people are here on 161 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 2: Love Island. And I remember going into like the beach hut, 162 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 2: you know, when it's like the segment was just us talking, 163 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,319 Speaker 2: and I was like, oh my god, this is crazy, 164 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 2: Like I actually feel like I can find them love 165 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 2: on Love Violence because of how amazing everyone was and 166 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 2: just speaking to them really inspired me and everyone was 167 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 2: just doing such different things and from different walks of 168 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 2: life that I was just like, this is so cool. 169 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 2: And the fact that I would have, you know, never 170 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 2: met most of those people in my day to day 171 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 2: life was just crazy. 172 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 3: And there was an initial connection between you and Maurice 173 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 3: sort of early on. What did you think when he 174 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 3: announced that we didn'tnore he didn't announce so when it 175 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 3: came out that he had this huge influence that girlfriend 176 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 3: before he entered the villa. 177 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if Marie tonight, it was very 178 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 2: much so that we were able to connect about like spirituality, 179 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 2: and we kind of have like a similar you know 180 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 2: background in terms of like our families being migrants and whatnot. 181 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 2: But the side that I saw of Marie's was just 182 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 2: a very down to earth guy, very chilled, very willing 183 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 2: to take on advice about how he can improve himself. 184 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 2: Because I would always be quite straightforward to him and 185 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 2: be like, WHOA, like you're coming across really intense or 186 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 2: so never in like a mean way, but he always 187 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 2: was like willing. 188 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 1: To talk about those things. 189 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 2: So when the whole girlfriend thing came up, it just like, 190 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 2: I don't know, just threw everything like in the I 191 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 2: don't even know. I was just like confused, and it 192 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 2: felt like we had just you know, it started to 193 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 2: really open up and see if we had like a potential, 194 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 2: and it felt so every step we took there was 195 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 2: like something just you know, drawing us back. But yeah, 196 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 2: I did speak to him, and I still to this 197 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 2: day do not think that he actually had a girlfriend. 198 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 2: I think that they were just like seeing each other, 199 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 2: and unfortunately that person very much so blew it out 200 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 2: of proportional I wanted. 201 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 3: I wanted that because obviously that's massive clickbait on YouTube. 202 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 3: I hadn't really heard of this influencer before, and I 203 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 3: went and watched it when I heard apparently what the 204 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 3: topic was on, So that is interesting. 205 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and even just seeking to Maurice, like everything that 206 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 2: he'd said in terms of like his ex girlfriend, that 207 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 2: like his proper ex girlfriend was a year ago sort 208 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 2: of thing, and that very much so aligned with what 209 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 2: everyone else said. And that's also kind of the reality 210 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 2: of being single that you know, a lot of the 211 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 2: people in the villa had probably been like, you know, 212 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 2: kind of seeing people on the side also, but it's 213 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 2: it's just like reality of being single. 214 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: So I thought it. 215 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 4: Was unfair that he got all of that. 216 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 2: Sort of like negativity and like people like pointing fingers 217 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 2: and whatnot. And obviously a lot of the times people 218 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 2: are just they're not really going to do their research 219 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 2: or you know, look into it too much. But if 220 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 2: someone is like, yep, this person was my boyfriend, I 221 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 2: don't know it is what it is. I haven't watched 222 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 2: the video, well, it would. 223 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 3: Be honest, it did seem a little bit odd because 224 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 3: I did think, oh, I wonder if they were sort 225 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 3: of just seeing each other. But you know when you 226 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 3: kind of think it's more serious maybe than the other person, 227 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 3: and it's more invested. But it seemed like a good 228 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 3: opportunity for her to get her name out there by 229 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 3: associating herself with him. So maybe it was more of 230 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 3: an opportune moment. But in going into that, obviously going 231 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 3: into Love Island, there is the possibility when you leave 232 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 3: that you are going to gain followers and you know, 233 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 3: a platform. Did it scare you when you went into 234 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 3: Love Island knowing that perhaps people might have been there 235 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:03,959 Speaker 3: for that and not to find love like you were. 236 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel as though, especially because of how the show. 237 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 2: Ended last year in regards to like Taylor and Grant 238 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 2: that I feel like this year that everyone was. 239 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 4: Just so suspicious of each other. 240 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 2: That we were all like constantly like the big thing 241 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 2: was like who's genuine, who's genuine, Who's here for the 242 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 2: right reason? You know? And I think it was really 243 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 2: because of what happened last year. But then it did 244 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 2: scare me in terms of like going in there, you know, 245 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 2: putting your guard down and like really opening up to someone. 246 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 2: But then I've always felt like I'm a pretty good 247 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 2: judge of character and just in my like it's just 248 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 2: not really me to overthink things. I kind of just 249 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 2: live in the moment and I just I just go 250 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 2: with the flow. And it's it's like, if I'm feeling something, 251 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 2: I'm feeling it. If I'm not feeling it, I'm not 252 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 2: feeling it. So I've never really won. I've never been 253 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 2: one to get like overwhelmed about what might happen in 254 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 2: the future when it comes to love. 255 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 1: When it comes to other stuff like Korean and whatnot, 256 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: then I freak out. 257 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 2: But when it comes to love, I'm just kind of like, 258 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 2: I don't know, I just I just go with the flow, 259 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 2: and yeah, and I just see what happens. 260 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 3: And I'm sorry, I no, this might be a bit fresh, 261 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 3: but you know that there were news articles saying that 262 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 3: you and Aaron might have ended things. How are you 263 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 3: coping with all of that attention and you know, with 264 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 3: a potential breakup on your hands. 265 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's yeah, it's been crazy. It's it's been really 266 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 2: really really really alloyird. 267 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: And I think for me. 268 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 4: With Aaron and I like, there's definitely. 269 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 2: You know, I've never said anything negative. Also that it's 270 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 2: interesting to see. 271 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: How invested everyone is. 272 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 2: And I completely understand because I've watch shows as well 273 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 2: and gotten super like invested in people. But for me, 274 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 2: I've never really wanted people to like start going out 275 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 2: for someone and like you know, bullying and negative comments 276 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 2: and whatnot. And I think it's hard when you kind 277 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 2: of come out of a show like that where obviously 278 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 2: you put yourself in the limelight to be judged, to 279 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 2: be like, you know, criticized for your relationship and what not, 280 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 2: to be on full display, but then coming out of 281 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 2: the villa, obviously there's so much that happens behind you know, 282 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 2: closed doors, and and I think for me, just at 283 00:15:56,480 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 2: the moment, like I I just know what I want 284 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 2: and deserve, and I want someone who you know, is 285 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 2: one hundred percent sure that they want to be with 286 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 2: me and that they're going to show that. And I 287 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 2: want like a partnership, and I, you know, want someone 288 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 2: who I can support them and they can support me. 289 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 2: And so, you know, with Aaron and I, it's just 290 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 2: I don't know, it just it is what it is. 291 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 2: And and he knows that I, you know, have no 292 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 2: bad blood or so towards him. And and I'm so 293 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 2: appreciative of like the whole experience, as hard as it's 294 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 2: been coming out and for things to not exactly go 295 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 2: to plan, but I know that I I did give 296 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 2: it my all sort of thing, and I also know 297 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 2: what I want now. 298 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all seems to be a good learning experience 299 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 3: in a way because, yeah, as you say, you realize 300 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 3: what you want and you deserve. So I'm sure someone 301 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 3: wonderful will come along soon for you. I suppose it's 302 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 3: hard for Aaron too, because a couple of the Islanders 303 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 3: have been kind of going at him when he was 304 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 3: on the show, saying that you know, as you were 305 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 3: very popular Islander and maybe it was beneficial for him 306 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 3: to team up with you, what did you make of 307 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 3: all of that speculation around him. 308 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 2: It was weird when because when we because when you're 309 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 2: in the villa, you're in a bubble. 310 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: You don't know. 311 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 2: What's going on on the outside, and also you know 312 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 2: if someone doesn't like no one really voiced that to 313 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:43,959 Speaker 2: me in regards to Aaron not being genuine when we 314 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 2: were in the villa, so it seemed a bit odd 315 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 2: to me when we came out that I was like 316 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 2: seeing all of this that it was a bit like 317 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 2: I did feel a bit disappointed in terms of like 318 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 2: kind of feeling like some people didn't really like that. 319 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 2: People could have had my back more or just voice 320 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 2: their opinions or whatnot if they were thinking a specific thing. 321 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: But yeah, when I was. 322 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 2: In the villa, I felt really connected to Aaron, and 323 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 2: I think for us it was very much so like, 324 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 2: I don't know, we would just do our own thing 325 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 2: and not really get too caught up with what was 326 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 2: happening around us. 327 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 1: And I think. 328 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 2: It's like very much so like our personalities that were 329 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 2: just quite laid back. So I always felt really good 330 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 2: about us, and I really really did think that things 331 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:42,199 Speaker 2: were going to work out, and especially the fact that 332 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,199 Speaker 2: he lives so close to me, like an hour, so 333 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 2: it's not too far. So I think now coming out 334 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 2: in the way things have gone, that I just try 335 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 2: not to overthink what happened in the villa and be like, oh, 336 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 2: was Aaron genuine? Oh was Aaron not genuine? Because then 337 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 2: that's just gonna eat me up inside. And all I 338 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 2: can really do is, you know, be myself and just 339 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 2: hope for the best and kind of like move on, 340 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 2: and you know, you can't really change the past, not 341 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 2: that I would want to change it. I enjoyed every 342 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 2: moment and I'm really happy with how everything turned out. 343 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: But I don't know, it was. 344 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 2: A bit weird that people were saying that, but I 345 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 2: can't really control other people's opinions. 346 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 3: And I suppose as viewers, we all see at home 347 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 3: all the conversations about love, but there must be so 348 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:42,199 Speaker 3: many not better, but more interesting perhaps conversations that you 349 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 3: guys share in the house. And Phoebe came out and 350 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:48,360 Speaker 3: said that you guys shared this conversation about how when 351 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 3: you're at school you experimented a lot with your hair, 352 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 3: and I don't know, it's just sounded like a really 353 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 3: interesting conversation that coming in I love so about hair, 354 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 3: but I mean, I know it just sounded in interesting 355 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:04,919 Speaker 3: because I suppose, you know, leaving Liberia to come to 356 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 3: Australia and then kind of having to compare yourself to 357 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 3: different girls at school. Was it something that you felt 358 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 3: like changing your hair to fit in? Was it or 359 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 3: just to express yourself? 360 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 2: I think for me like coming because I moved here 361 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 2: when I was seven. So when I initially moved to 362 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 2: Australia that everything was just so different and so new, 363 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 2: and and I feel as though, like my classmates as 364 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 2: well were quite like fascinated by me, because I think 365 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 2: at that time it was like the early two thousand 366 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 2: and so, like two thousand and five, like six, that 367 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:42,239 Speaker 2: everyone was always like really curious about who like I was, 368 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:46,439 Speaker 2: just because of my nationality. But I would find that, 369 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 2: you know, like my Caucasian friends would be doing all 370 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 2: these different things with their hair and like the texture 371 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 2: and whatnot, and very much so when I was younger 372 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 2: that I felt a bit displaced and I was sure, 373 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 2: you know, where I fitted in. And also the fact 374 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 2: that like when I turned on the telly, that was 375 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 2: there was never anyone who looked like me or anyone 376 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 2: really telling me how exactly to do my hair. 377 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: Obviously, like my family would. 378 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 2: Do my hair, but there was never, you know, that 379 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 2: accessibility that you would like pick up girlfriend magazine and 380 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 2: you would see someone who looks like me. So definitely, 381 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 2: when I was younger, I really did struggle in terms 382 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 2: of like my identity and just being comfortable with the 383 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 2: fact that I was different and everyone was always gonna, 384 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 2: you know, be fascinated by me. 385 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: To an extent, not like everyone's like. 386 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's a theater amazing, but then I 387 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 2: feel so when I got into like high school, probably 388 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 2: more like in grade eleven and twelve, that that was 389 00:21:55,920 --> 00:22:00,360 Speaker 2: kind of when I really started to become more comfortable 390 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 2: with who I was. And that was because I found 391 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 2: stuff that that I felt as though my identity became 392 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,880 Speaker 2: more than just my race. It became the fact that 393 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,439 Speaker 2: I was Cynthia, who was you know, really into acting. 394 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 2: I was Cynthia, who was like school captain. And by 395 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 2: kind of like really putting myself, you know, out there 396 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 2: and just trying new things that I really started to 397 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 2: feel more comfortable with who I was and also kind 398 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 2: of used the fact that I was different to my 399 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 2: advantage and you know try out for like school musicals 400 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 2: and whatnot. 401 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: So it just became a bit easier. 402 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 2: And then obviously, like in my twenties that I was 403 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 2: able to travel and study abroad and you know, all 404 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 2: of those moments and you know, memories kind of ads 405 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 2: to who you are as a person, and it just 406 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 2: made me feel way more comfortable about being liberian, about 407 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:07,719 Speaker 2: you know, having kinky hair and whatnot, but also have 408 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 2: the ability to if I want to change my hair 409 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 2: and try something else, that's like a personal choice. It 410 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 2: has no reflection about my race or you know, where 411 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 2: I'm from, whereas I feel so sometimes there's just so 412 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 2: much pressure put onto women of color in terms of 413 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 2: our hair nowadays, because everyone wants to be. 414 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 1: Really proud of where they're. 415 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 2: From, which is obviously really great and that's what I 416 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 2: stand for. But then it's like I also don't feel 417 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 2: the need to like look a specific way. It's more 418 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,640 Speaker 2: of a personal choice what I do with my hair 419 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:48,439 Speaker 2: and like a way of expressing you know, fashion and 420 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 2: my identity and whatnot. 421 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 1: If that makes sense. 422 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 3: No, that makes perfect sense. And talking about the I 423 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 3: suppose the pressure of looking a certain way you are 424 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 3: a model. How have you sort of handled all the 425 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 3: pressure that goes along with the modeling industry. 426 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 2: Well, I feel so well with my store. When it 427 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 2: comes to modeling, it definitely hasn't been easy. I've kind 428 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 2: of just like to squeeze my way through that. Initially, 429 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,199 Speaker 2: when I think I was eighteen, and that's when I 430 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 2: kind of tried to get into modeling properly. That I 431 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 2: went to probably like ten agencies or something like that, 432 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 2: and they all like said no to me, And a 433 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 2: lot of the times they would be like, oh, there's 434 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 2: someone who looks like you, and then I would go 435 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 2: on to their books and it would be you know, 436 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 2: somewhat of color, but they look completely different to me. 437 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 2: And back then it always felt as though there was 438 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 2: only room for like one person of color, but it 439 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 2: was It was always a thing that I just didn't 440 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 2: let that stop me because for me, I love modeling 441 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 2: because it's like a form of art. I love the 442 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 2: fact that I get to meet, you know, so many 443 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:03,439 Speaker 2: talented people. And when I am modeling, it's like my 444 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 2: alter ego. Because obviously on the show you could see 445 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 2: that I was a little bit more quiet, but then 446 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 2: when I'm modeling, that I'm I'm just I'm just a 447 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 2: different version of myself and I love that and it's 448 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 2: just super fun. But then I just organize shoots by 449 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 2: myself and would just reach out to photographers and whatnot 450 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,439 Speaker 2: and just collaborate with people. And I think after a while, 451 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 2: when it's kind of like when someone doesn't believe in you, 452 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 2: you kind of have to take, you know, the lead 453 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 2: and actually go for what you want because you can't 454 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 2: really rely on other people to give you what you 455 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 2: want if they, you know, if they don't believe in you. 456 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 2: And so I kind of always saw a potential in myself. 457 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 2: Not to sound up myself, but. 458 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 3: If you don't believe in yourself, who else is going 459 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 3: to really. 460 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, and so I just always thought like a 461 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 2: potential and I kind of just you know, went for 462 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 2: it despite people not really taking me that seriously. 463 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: And I think. 464 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 2: After a while, the fact that I started to prove 465 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 2: myself that then you know, brands who align with you know, 466 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 2: who I am and my morals and whatnot, then they 467 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 2: obviously naturally start to gravitate towards you. And for the 468 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 2: other brands that don't, you know, hire me, it just 469 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 2: it's nothing personal like I don't when it comes to 470 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 2: modeling and people choosing me for jobs, Like, I don't 471 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 2: take it too personally in terms of like rejection because 472 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 2: it's not really a reflection of like who I am 473 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 2: or like my ability. 474 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: It's just it's just on the client. 475 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 3: And I love it because sorry, I always saying love 476 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 3: Love Island always seems to you know, say, oh, this 477 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 3: person's a model, this person's out. But you also have 478 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,959 Speaker 3: a journalism and PR degree, which is very impressive. Is 479 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 3: that something that you're looking at getting into maybe when 480 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:02,439 Speaker 3: you get older? 481 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, I would probably say more so journalism, Like 482 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 2: I love writing, like one of my goals at the moment. 483 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 2: I was working on this project before I went into 484 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 2: the villa, But essentially I'm wanting to create like a 485 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 2: blog slash a platform just basically looking at like issues 486 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 2: affecting millennials, from like mental health to masculinity to like 487 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,120 Speaker 2: social media, just things. 488 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 4: That are very relevant in our times. 489 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 2: And through that, I've also also on to start a 490 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 2: podcast and I've already recorded quite a few. So I 491 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 2: find that for me that I just love writing. It's 492 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 2: like it's a way of you know, expressing how I 493 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 2: feel a way of you know, sharing someone else's story. 494 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 2: So I would definitely love to, you know, get into 495 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 2: that more. And obviously, like the blog will be at 496 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 2: soon and I and I reckon. 497 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 1: Even like presenting. 498 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 2: Also, like I love entertainment, so that's always something that 499 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 2: I'm very much so interested in, and I always I 500 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 2: always want to like I love modeling, but I don't 501 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 2: just want to be known as like a model, Like 502 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 2: I want to be layered and I want to experience 503 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 2: and try different things and not just like box myself 504 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 2: in you know, one position. 505 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,640 Speaker 3: Oh for sure, I won't wait to listen to your podcast, 506 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 3: by the way, I think it will be incredible. We 507 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 3: do not do you have a time that you're going 508 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 3: to release it or are you still sort of putting. 509 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 2: Well, I was in I was like December, but I 510 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 2: feel so that's like such a busy period, so now 511 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 2: I'm kind of thinking January. And yeah, it's been really 512 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 2: cool because it's funny because like on the show. 513 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 4: I feel like I came across quite like very quiet. 514 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 2: And like a bit withdrawn at times. But I think 515 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 2: it was just because most of the time, the conversations 516 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 2: that I would have with people weren't about like who 517 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 2: they liked, but it was more about like who they 518 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 2: are like as a person and why they are the 519 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 2: way that they are, and their experiences and whatnot. So 520 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 2: it's always something I've been like very drawn to, just 521 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 2: like you know, chatting to people and getting to know them, 522 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 2: and I feel so you can always learn something you 523 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 2: know from everyone, regardless of. 524 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 1: What age they are. 525 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 4: So I'm really excited about it. 526 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 3: Your conversations were probably just too profound to have unfortunately, 527 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,479 Speaker 3: but yeah, I can't wait to hear your podcast. In 528 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 3: terms of you know, you mentioned that you have been 529 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 3: unlucky in love. What do you think it is about 530 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 3: Australian men that make them so difficult to date? Because 531 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 3: I feel like there's a different breed of men in Australia. 532 00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: I mean. 533 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 3: European guys seem really straightforward, not straightforward, but forthcoming. And 534 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 3: I feel like men these days have been ruined by 535 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 3: dating apps. But what do you think it is that 536 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 3: makes them so difficult to deal with? 537 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 2: I kind of feel as though a lot of the 538 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 2: times now, because of like social media and like you know, 539 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 2: apps and whatnot, that a lot of people don't really 540 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 2: fight for a person or what they want that it's 541 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 2: kind of like, if something doesn't work out, you know, 542 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 2: chances are two weeks later, they're probably going to find, 543 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 2: you know, someone new. And in my past dating history, 544 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 2: it's very much so been a case of, like, you know, 545 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 2: people wanting to see multiple people at the same time. 546 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 1: And I'm like, no, it's not what I want. 547 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 2: And at times, you know, treating you like you're disposable 548 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 2: in a sense, which is really shit. But I feel 549 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 2: as though nowadays that I don't know, like guys are 550 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 2: just so I don't know, it's weird. I honestly don't 551 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 2: really know what it is. It's like it's so many 552 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 2: different things. It's like social media. It's the fact that 553 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 2: like guys kind of don't really try as much or yeah, 554 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,479 Speaker 2: but I really don't know. If I knew the answer, 555 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 2: I probably would not be single right now. 556 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 3: I just feel like they're so lazy, as in with 557 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 3: social media and all these dating apps, they don't have 558 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 3: to make any effort. And as you said, because they 559 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 3: have this pool of people, you do have that feeling of, yeah, 560 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 3: you're disposable, I can replace you. But I feel like 561 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 3: maybe that's men of a certain age and then once 562 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 3: they realize they want a girlfriend, it changes completely. What's 563 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,239 Speaker 3: that line on sex and the city? Oh, if your 564 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 3: taxi lights on or not? 565 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:54,719 Speaker 1: Is that? 566 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 2: Yeah? 567 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 3: The one? Yeah, their cab light is either on or 568 00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 3: if it's off. 569 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 2: I have sex in the city. It's like one of 570 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 2: my favorite TV theory. 571 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 3: Oh, it's amazing. 572 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 1: We were so good. 573 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 3: I know you have a contract obviously with the you know, 574 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 3: Love Island and I'm assuming Channel nine, But we did 575 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 3: have some questions we wanted to ask you about. I 576 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 3: suppose some of the stuff that goes on on Love Island, 577 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 3: so you can you're just some quick fire questions you 578 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 3: don't okay, we can cut them out if you can't say. 579 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 3: But if you can't say, we'll just you can just 580 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,719 Speaker 3: say pass. But the first one is do you have 581 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 3: any days off in the villa? 582 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 1: I can't say because there was so much. 583 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 3: Like because I was I was obsessed with Love Island 584 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 3: UK and I heard they got every Saturday off or Sunday. 585 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 3: Was it one of the weekend. 586 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 2: No, like we are always in the villa, but it's 587 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 2: just more of a case of like some days, you know, 588 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 2: we're not going to have like an elimination or like that. 589 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 4: You just know that you can kind of more chill out. 590 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: And in those days. 591 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 2: Production was pretty good because they would like, you know, 592 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 2: pamper us or just kind of give us a moment 593 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 2: to just, you know, chill out. 594 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've heard that. 595 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 3: Do you guys have hairdressers and sort of like nail 596 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 3: technicians coming in to keep you looking on? 597 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 2: We didn't, just because of like I think the location 598 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 2: or so, but we were kind of able to make 599 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 2: do with what we had, and sometimes we would get 600 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 2: stuff like delivered to us, which was nice. 601 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 3: Oh that's cool. Talking about the location, the new villa 602 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 3: did cause a bit of controversy. People were comparing it 603 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 3: to sort of a poor man's version of the UK Villa. 604 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 3: But what was it like in person, because I'm assuming 605 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 3: it was probably a lot bigger than it looked on TV. 606 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the villa was amazing. 607 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,479 Speaker 2: I remember that very first day walking in and just 608 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 2: seeing it was Katia and Vanessa standing there and how 609 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 2: like pristine everything looked, and that view was just so stunny. 610 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 2: I think it was kind of nice the fact that 611 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 2: the villa wasn't too overly like large, because it just 612 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 2: meant that, like people were able to chat to each 613 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,320 Speaker 2: other more and connect more, rather than like little groups 614 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 2: going off and doing like you know, god knows what. 615 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,720 Speaker 2: That it felt a little bit more like a family 616 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 2: and a bit more cozier. 617 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 3: And I guess one other question a lot of people 618 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 3: have is how often do you guys actually get to 619 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 3: see Sophie Monk? 620 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 1: Oh? 621 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 2: I think usually it was like every week, I think, 622 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 2: and then going towards the end, it was literally like 623 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 2: so much because like so many people were going home. 624 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:46,320 Speaker 1: It was like crazy. 625 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 3: I love Sophie Monk. I feel like her job is 626 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 3: the best job in TV though. 627 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:52,240 Speaker 1: Getting to hang out. 628 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 2: With well, she's like just so down to uh literally 629 00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 2: always looks effortless, just knows her job like she's amazing. 630 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 4: I'm such a fan girl. 631 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 3: Oh she is amazing. And one thing that also sparkes 632 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 3: a bit of debate on the outside was you guys 633 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,760 Speaker 3: eating So I've heard that you're allowed to have breakfast, 634 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 3: but we didn't really see eating dinner and lunch. Was 635 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 3: that all catered for? 636 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 2: Yeah? 637 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was all catered for. 638 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 2: So breakfast is kind of more like a time for 639 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 2: us or to like make something and then you know, 640 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,400 Speaker 2: chat away to our partners. 641 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 1: And whatnot. But then with the. 642 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 2: Lunch and dinner that was kind of more of a 643 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 2: moment to just let everyone you know, chill and you know, 644 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,720 Speaker 2: talk about something a bit different. So usually those times 645 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 2: aren't really interesting, so they don't really like include it 646 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:47,760 Speaker 2: in the show. 647 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 3: I feel like the breakfast was just an excuse for 648 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 3: Jared to get his bum out most of the time. 649 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I remember that the very was it 650 00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 2: was the second day, I think, and Jared with his 651 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,359 Speaker 2: like Apra and on and yeah, oh my gosh. 652 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 3: And one of the other questions I suppose a lot 653 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 3: of people have is just how involved are the producers. 654 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 1: No, they're not very involved. 655 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 2: It's very much so that like everything that we say 656 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,760 Speaker 2: and all the people that we want to pursue, that's 657 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,319 Speaker 2: always like on us. But it might be a case 658 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,839 Speaker 2: of like, you know, the light looks really nice at 659 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 2: a certain place, so they'll like suggest that we like 660 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:30,319 Speaker 2: go and sit there. 661 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 3: But everyone likes good lighting, so that's a good. 662 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 663 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 2: But like we're never told like what to say, like 664 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 2: all of our words like our own, so they never 665 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 2: like force us to do anything that we don't want 666 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 2: to do. And I feel as though, especially with you know, 667 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 2: this season you could see how things change so much 668 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 2: and how people change their minds so much. 669 00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 1: So that was always like on us. 670 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 3: Oh, that's good to hear. One sort of controversial question 671 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 3: I suppose is in there were a few steamy scenes 672 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 3: between Margarita and Blake that aired, and some great music 673 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:17,240 Speaker 3: was chosen over the top, and Margherita said to Anna 674 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 3: that that the pair had had sex, and I found 675 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,879 Speaker 3: it really interesting because I'd read that Love Island UK 676 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 3: may they decided not to show any sort of sexual 677 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,840 Speaker 3: scenes because they said they wanted to protect the mental 678 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 3: health of contestants following sadly the two suicides of the 679 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,880 Speaker 3: contestants from the show. Do you think that it was 680 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,839 Speaker 3: within everyone's best interest for the producers to air that 681 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 3: sort of lead up to this It wasn't a sex scene, 682 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 3: but eve that steamy scene or do you think they 683 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,959 Speaker 3: should have left it out? 684 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:51,920 Speaker 1: Well, I haven't watched it. 685 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:56,799 Speaker 2: I've really watched like two episodes of the show, but 686 00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 2: from like little snippets that I or in terms of 687 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 2: like steamy stuff, I feel as though they very much 688 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 2: so did protect us and didn't show like true much. 689 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:13,840 Speaker 2: And also margaritea is very like comfortable with who she is, 690 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 2: so I don't really think that she like took offense 691 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,920 Speaker 2: to it or overthought it. 692 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,400 Speaker 1: So yeah, I can't. 693 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,480 Speaker 2: I feel as though, like for the most part, the 694 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,319 Speaker 2: producers were quite good in terms of like what they 695 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:31,400 Speaker 2: actually showed and when I from like the little stupets 696 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:35,400 Speaker 2: that I've seen, it hasn't been anything too over the top. 697 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 1: But I haven't seen that scene of Margarite and. 698 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:42,319 Speaker 3: Like, probably not when you're going to fast forward to 699 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,560 Speaker 3: it immediately. Well, just to wrap up, what can we 700 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,840 Speaker 3: expect to see from you in the coming year, obviously 701 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:50,800 Speaker 3: the podcast. 702 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I'm super excited to get my blog and 703 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,279 Speaker 2: podcasts up and you know, be able to have more 704 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:02,839 Speaker 2: conversations with people about things that like matter and human interests. 705 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,239 Speaker 1: Subjects. And I also you. 706 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 2: Know, just want to continue doing modeling and working with like, 707 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 2: you know, more brands that are open to you know, 708 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 2: being a bit different and like that aligned with my morals, 709 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,360 Speaker 2: like I would one of my big goals is I 710 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 2: would love to shoot a campaign with Sea Folly, Like 711 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 2: I've always grown up with them, an Australian brand, and 712 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 2: I just think it would be like so sick and 713 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 2: I also do acting, so you know, I'm just auditioning 714 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 2: for things and you know, crossing my fingers for the best. 715 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 2: So yeah, it's all just kind of happening, and I'm 716 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 2: just taking every day as it comes, because i think 717 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,319 Speaker 2: when you sit back and you like think about all 718 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,840 Speaker 2: the things that you want to do, it is a 719 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,400 Speaker 2: bit overwhelming and it and it kind of like freaks 720 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,880 Speaker 2: me out a lot. And I feel though when it 721 00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 2: comes to like career and stuff like I do put 722 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 2: a lot of pressure on my But I'm just trying 723 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 2: to take a step back and just literally take every 724 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 2: day as it comes and just you know, try my 725 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 2: best of all with everything that I do. 726 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,359 Speaker 3: Well, I think you're going to achieve all of those 727 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,279 Speaker 3: things hopefully. Thank you so much for joining us. We've 728 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:15,279 Speaker 3: love chatting with you. 729 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:17,880 Speaker 1: Oh, thank you so much for asking me. I had 730 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:21,840 Speaker 1: a great time chatting with you guys as well. Well. 731 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:23,800 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for listening. If you'd like to 732 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,960 Speaker 3: join the conversation online, you can follow us on Instagram 733 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 3: at Outspoken Underscore the Underscore Podcast. We're also on Facebook 734 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,920 Speaker 3: by the same name, And if you did enjoy today's podcast, 735 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:36,919 Speaker 3: we'd love if you could leave us a five star 736 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 3: review because it really does help us out. Thank you 737 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 3: so much.