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Speaker 1: This is a podcast about failure with me Lolaberry, author,

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Speaker 1: nutritionist and yoga teacher, join me as we get to

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Speaker 1: know these guests and learn about how their failures have

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Speaker 1: ultimately shaped their dreams. Welcome to fearlessly Failing with Lolaberry. Hello,

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Speaker 1: it's Lols here. Can you believe it? It's something like

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Speaker 1: thirty two days until Christmas? Yikes? Okay. Today's guest Tim Blackwell,

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Speaker 1: or as he's known by his co hosts as Blackers.

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Speaker 1: He is a very very well known Australian radio host.

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Speaker 1: He's also a TV presenter. It was so much fun

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Speaker 1: to chat to him. He is so super smart, quick mind, fast,

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Speaker 1: fast mind, very very funny, no surprises there, to the

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Speaker 1: point that I thought he must have studied comedy in

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Speaker 1: preparation for being on radio. But no, he went to

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Speaker 1: proper radio school, did broadcasting, did all the like, worked

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Speaker 1: his way up the ranks. Is that the right word?

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Speaker 1: Starting regional and now he is like on the number

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Speaker 1: one drive show or Nova. He's been at Nova from

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Speaker 1: the get go. This guy's work ethic is amazing. He's

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Speaker 1: clearly super kind, super hard working and super laid back

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Speaker 1: as well. He's this really good combo. I hope you

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Speaker 1: enjoy this chat with Blackers. You're a legend. Mate, Hello,

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Speaker 1: and welcome to the pod. Tim Blackwell or Blackers, I

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Speaker 1: want to call you Blackers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird one Blackers. I've never had Blackers until

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Speaker 2: kind of the last few years. And some people call

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Speaker 2: it Cami black Is in an email. What you can.

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Speaker 3: Do, what you want.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm not that proud. I like it.

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Speaker 1: Do you know that you're okay? No, I I've never

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Speaker 1: heard you called Timmy. No, you've been so I've been

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Speaker 1: really excited to research you because you are the first

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Speaker 1: radio host announcer broadcast. There are so many hats, but

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Speaker 1: also you're on tally as well.

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Speaker 3: Really yes, but.

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Speaker 1: You're the first person to come on. Usually get like

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Speaker 1: actors and directors. You're the first person from radio. And

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Speaker 1: I was really ignorant when I started researching you. I

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Speaker 1: just thought, Oh, he might have a comedic kind of background.

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Speaker 1: But then I was like, oh, his voice is really good,

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Speaker 1: so maybe he's done some voice training. This is where

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Speaker 1: my mind went. And then you fully trained really hard

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Speaker 1: for this, right you went to squad.

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Speaker 3: I have a graduate diplomer. If that's what you're after.

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Speaker 2: I have a graduate diplomber and Commercial Broadcasting, which I

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Speaker 2: don't know where it is. I think it might be

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Speaker 2: in one of those plastic sleeves at my mum's house. Still, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's true because I remember I went to mcquarie UNI

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Speaker 2: for a little while, like for like five or six months,

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Speaker 2: and I could see afters out the window, which is

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Speaker 2: the Australian Film Television Radio School. Why am I learning

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Speaker 2: about sociology and stuff when I just want to be

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Speaker 2: over there?

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Speaker 1: So yeah, is it true that it started super young

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Speaker 1: for you?

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Speaker 2: Though?

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Speaker 1: Like at six or seven, didn't you get a young

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Speaker 1: talent time amplifier and you'd read the newspaper to your

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Speaker 1: you'd be in your bedroom reading the newspaper.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, well lucky it progressed to that because a

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Speaker 2: lot of the time I was just talking into a

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Speaker 2: toilet roll walking around the house because anything of or

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Speaker 2: you know, those slurpy kind of I remember we went

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Speaker 2: I think it started with liking the sound of my

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Speaker 3: But yeah, the young talent time.

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Speaker 2: He actually came as an amplifying microphone and a guitar,

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Speaker 2: listened to a lot of talk back because my mum did.

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Speaker 2: And John Laws said once years and years ago that

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Speaker 2: if you want to learn how to do this for

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Speaker 3: So I would just read.

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Speaker 2: Then it was the Mercury and Tazzy, which took me

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Speaker 2: My mum was my biggest supporter, definitely.

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Speaker 1: Oh so amazing. And John Laws is like the og right,

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Speaker 1: he's got that beautiful resonance in his voice.

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Speaker 2: Well, I had lunch with him last year, almost exactly

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Speaker 2: I don't want to cut this thing short for my

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Speaker 2: radio show, which starts at four. Can we pre record

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Speaker 2: our whole show so I could go to lunch with

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Speaker 3: And this means a lot to you, it doesn't, absolutely.

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Speaker 2: And we ended up until eight o'clock at night, which

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Speaker 2: like from one pm to about eight pm at lunch

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Speaker 3: And we were drinking wild turkey. It was amazing.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, he's definitely my That was my first kind

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Speaker 1: Didn't They call him the Golden Tonsils or something like that.

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Speaker 1: And he had all those stories of like him and

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Speaker 1: is it he used to like wreck hotel rooms with

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Speaker 1: is it Johnny Cash or someone? And they like he

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Speaker 2: Sure when radio was a true rock star too, So

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Speaker 3: So he was the absolute original.

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Speaker 2: Made a huge career out of it, but really only radio,

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Speaker 2: Like you were talking about a little bit of TV before,

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Speaker 2: Like he did a bit of TV because of radio,

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Speaker 2: but radio was always his number one. And he's still

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Speaker 3: So he's a real inspiration.

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Speaker 1: What a legend. And then so your family went to

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Speaker 1: Howard Stern and then that became very different. Yeah, but

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Speaker 2: I was actually think about picture of this actually on

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Speaker 3: And then you get to school and you talk about it.

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Speaker 2: And at one stage, about a year or two into

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Speaker 3: Like, well, amazing, you have to listen to Howard. You

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Speaker 1: So then you came back to Tazzi to do like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a few years later than that, because I was

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Speaker 2: I was in America from thirteen to sixteen, and then

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Speaker 2: not to say that your research is not being impeccable by.

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Speaker 2: I came down for year ten, so whatever age that is,

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Speaker 2: and then I Triple T was the radio station in Hobart,

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Speaker 3: So that was an incredible experience.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people get in touch with me now

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Speaker 2: about radio and I'm like, well, it's a pretty no

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Speaker 3: Like I mean, I don't know. This is the problem

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Speaker 2: I don't think you really can just walk into a

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Speaker 3: For free anymore, which is such a shame.

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Speaker 2: I would argue that most industries would benefit from that,

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Speaker 3: It's such a shame.

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Speaker 2: And I ended up doing the same with Andrew Dentson

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Speaker 2: That's kind of the invaluable experience. I think we're really

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Speaker 1: Totally. And imagine Andrew Denton's brain being around that brain

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Speaker 1: and just kind of absorbing the magic of Andrew Denton. Yes,

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Speaker 1: so after studying it seems like looking at radio kind

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Speaker 1: of trajectory, usually you have to do your time in

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Speaker 1: more regional areas. So did you go Aubrey then Perth?

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Speaker 1: How did your steps.

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Speaker 3: Away Aubrey then Melbourne?

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Speaker 2: Because so I ad AFTERS I met Katha Connor, who's

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Speaker 2: And then the great thing about AFTERS and still is

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Speaker 2: like the radio industry really looks at the ten people

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Speaker 2: then I get this letter saying, well, we'd love to

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Speaker 2: be so Nova. Sydney had just launched and it was

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Speaker 2: radio stations just launched in Sydney, ugly feels their American

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Speaker 2: rosso I've still got the clippings from the Sydney Morning Herald.

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Speaker 2: And then about six or eight months later year find

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Speaker 2: if it's going to be a Nova and or it

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Speaker 2: could be a classic rock station or whatever. And I

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Speaker 2: I had just signed this confidentiality agreement.

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Speaker 3: So then you go to like the Radio.

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Speaker 2: Awards, which the Afters class goes to at the end

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Speaker 2: I'd love you to sign this book for me, and

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Speaker 3: It was a great experience. Blah blah, blah.

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Speaker 3: You're big bosses.

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Speaker 2: The guy that owned DMG at the times the Lochler

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Speaker 2: Got actually had a photo of me with the Chili

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Speaker 1: Amazing.

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Speaker 3: Is that right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, where I could, Like, it's hard to kind of

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Speaker 3: You know, that's what we we're here for. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: Little bits of that where I can, and I've been

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Speaker 2: I can't really do that. I've gotten very good at

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Speaker 2: wait to give that a go toward the end of

443
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Speaker 2: this year.

444
00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:14,600
Speaker 1: You got to do it, and you've got your new

445
00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:16,520
Speaker 1: little pod mic as well, so you're right.

446
00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,560
Speaker 2: I'm so excited. I showed you this before we started.

447
00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:21,720
Speaker 2: Thank you to Rhode for hooking me up.

448
00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:23,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, plug for you.

449
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Speaker 1: Before I get onto Kate, Tim and Marty. I love

450
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Speaker 1: Michelle Laurie and I loved watching some of your like

451
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Speaker 1: there's a few things on YouTube of you guys in Brizzy.

452
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Speaker 1: That was a Brizzy Breakfast show, right.

453
00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,000
Speaker 2: Brizzy Breakfast, and then we did two years of Drive

454
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Speaker 2: together as well.

455
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Speaker 1: Yeah, she as amazing as she seems.

456
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Speaker 3: She's such a great broadcaster.

457
00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,439
Speaker 2: Well, she's the reason I actually started up on Brisbane

458
00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:51,920
Speaker 2: Breakfast because once I finished up with Hughsey and Kate,

459
00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:54,640
Speaker 2: she was looking for a new co host and she

460
00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,560
Speaker 2: apparently just name checked me. She's like, I want him

461
00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:59,320
Speaker 2: to come up because he's worked with Husey and Kate

462
00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:01,760
Speaker 2: that stage as well. You know, you get to this

463
00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:03,840
Speaker 2: stage when you're in your mid to late twenties or

464
00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:05,840
Speaker 2: twenty six were you think you've got like this is

465
00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:07,439
Speaker 2: it now? This is as good as it gets, and

466
00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,919
Speaker 2: I was pretty cool and in Melbourne, living in Fitzroy,

467
00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:14,040
Speaker 2: I was like, eh, but the best thing I ever

468
00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:17,040
Speaker 2: did was moved to Brisbane do a radio show with her.

469
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Speaker 2: She's got such a great radio brain. She's such a

470
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Speaker 2: great broadcaster and her and she gave me so much

471
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Speaker 2: freedom so from being a bit of a jock. And

472
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Speaker 2: this is nothing against when I was with Husey and Kate,

473
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Speaker 2: I was very much I really had to prove myself.

474
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Speaker 3: It took me a good year.

475
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Speaker 2: Or two to be able to speak, and Husey and

476
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Speaker 2: Kate allowed that, but then kind of Michelle kind of

477
00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:38,720
Speaker 2: got more out of me out of that and made

478
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Speaker 2: me want to do show radio.

479
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Speaker 3: So yeah, she was an absolute treat to work with.

480
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Speaker 1: And it's so obvious listening to the Kate, Tim and

481
00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,040
Speaker 1: Marty show. I know, if I ever have a crappy day,

482
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Speaker 1: I just go on to the Instagram for you guys

483
00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,199
Speaker 1: and I just will laugh at like quick draw or

484
00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:58,000
Speaker 1: like just highlight, like the highlight stuff. And even today

485
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Speaker 1: I had a bit of extra time and I was like,

486
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,040
Speaker 1: I just want to soak more of you up. And

487
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Speaker 1: I ended up then seeing you doing I think it

488
00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:09,159
Speaker 1: was a segment for fifteen Whipper called Celebrity Screeners. You

489
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Speaker 1: and Carl Stefanovi.

490
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

491
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I just think that there's such a beautiful

492
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Speaker 1: like you guys all feel like comrades together in the

493
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Speaker 1: Kate and Marty Show. But Marty started with you with

494
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Speaker 1: Michelle in Brizzee. Is that right?

495
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

496
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you've been mates for years basically.

497
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Speaker 2: Tyler was so like if it's is one of my

498
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Speaker 2: best mates in the world. Marty's one of my best

499
00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,199
Speaker 2: mates and never have always been very well. I mean

500
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Speaker 2: the Perth Breakfast Show, Nathan, Nat and Sean have been

501
00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,119
Speaker 2: there for almost fifteen years.

502
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:43,200
Speaker 3: Brisbane Breakfast have been there for ages. Adelaide is really.

503
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Speaker 2: One of the only new new kids on the block

504
00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,280
Speaker 2: with Ben and Lamb, like they pick kind of good

505
00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,240
Speaker 2: people and they stick with them, you know. So it's

506
00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,359
Speaker 2: such a lovely There's no real ego in the hallway.

507
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,679
Speaker 2: There's probably more ego in sales than there is with

508
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:59,119
Speaker 2: the people on air. It's a really relaxed environment. Paul

509
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,520
Speaker 2: our big boy, kind of lets everyone do what they

510
00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 2: want and until it doesn't work. You know, he's not

511
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,679
Speaker 2: an idiot, but he's he gives you that freedom. They

512
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 2: let you like you know, you've got a long time

513
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:12,880
Speaker 2: to prove.

514
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,479
Speaker 3: It as well. Radio doesn't.

515
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:16,640
Speaker 2: It's not like TV, you know, where a show doesn't

516
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,600
Speaker 2: work for two episodes and then they can it. Yes,

517
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,080
Speaker 2: they do give it time, you know. Which is which

518
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,440
Speaker 2: is again another reason I love this business so much.

519
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Speaker 1: I have loved watching the rap battles between you and

520
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Speaker 1: FITZI do you put heaps of work into them? Or

521
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Speaker 1: is it more? Is there heaps of adlibe? Is it?

522
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Speaker 1: Because I feel like.

523
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Speaker 2: Radio that's you know, there's all ad lib on the show,

524
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Speaker 2: the Radio Shop. But when you're asked to do someone

525
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Speaker 2: else to show you really think you bring you and that.

526
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Speaker 2: I was so nervous doing that because I hear people

527
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Speaker 2: do it. It's a really nerve wracking thing. You meant

528
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Speaker 2: to Cane. You made too music, And I know I'm

529
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Speaker 2: not used to being a bit of a control for it.

530
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Speaker 2: You might have worked that out, but I'm not used

531
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Speaker 2: to be on the other side of the desk either,

532
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Speaker 2: not in control.

533
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Speaker 3: So you know I definitely planned that one. Yeah.

534
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Speaker 1: Oh it's so good, so so, so good and so

535
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:08,639
Speaker 1: and this is the thing I love about what I

536
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 1: feel like you guys have created with Kate Timbermarty. It

537
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 1: feels like if there's a purpose or like mission, it

538
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 1: is to make people feel good the listener feel good

539
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:22,399
Speaker 1: and escape and it feels fun, but it feels super real,

540
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,880
Speaker 1: Like it feels like there's no bullshit and you guys

541
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,160
Speaker 1: are just like picking on Kate or paying each other out.

542
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 1: It feels genuinely fun. It does it feel like that

543
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 1: for you as the hosts.

544
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Speaker 2: It's one hundred percent every day the best best part

545
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:36,680
Speaker 2: of the day.

546
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Speaker 3: Like there's obviously the stuff you've got to put.

547
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 2: Up with when you're at work, which is normal work

548
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 2: stuff and things in life that happen.

549
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Speaker 3: But similar to those Instagram videos make.

550
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,440
Speaker 2: You feel good at four o'clock, this show just automatically

551
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,879
Speaker 2: makes you feel good to put your phone away. You're

552
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 2: one hundred percent focused, but you're sitting there literally with

553
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 2: your mates, as cheesy as that sounds, and you come

554
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Speaker 2: off it like I come off I always think to myself,

555
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 2: like my wife's good friends with Lucy Jurak, I'm like,

556
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:03,919
Speaker 2: I think this must be how you feel when you

557
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 2: get off stage after doing Wicked.

558
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,880
Speaker 3: It's like you come over here I've had. I feel good.

559
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,119
Speaker 2: It's the best way I can describe it if you're listening, Lucy.

560
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 2: But yeah, it is the best part of my day.

561
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Speaker 2: Every show I've done to being the best part of

562
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Speaker 2: the day.

563
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Speaker 3: I've been very lucky.

564
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Speaker 1: And I guess times are kind of changing for you

565
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 1: with Joel Crazy coming in and becoming part of your

566
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Speaker 1: family now.

567
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Speaker 3: I know. I know that's why I was a little

568
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Speaker 3: bit late to today.

569
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Speaker 2: We've just been he starts with us, if well this

570
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Speaker 2: is we're recording this on September ninety. Starts with us

571
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Speaker 2: on September fourteen, so this Monday, so we're just getting

572
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Speaker 2: him in and we're just I mean, we're not really

573
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 2: we're not really trying very hard. But it's just I

574
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 2: feel for him because he's never done a lot of

575
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Speaker 2: radio where it hasn't been about him, like he's done

576
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 2: a lot of radio when he's been interviewed on the radio.

577
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's huge us to feel and I think

578
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Speaker 2: I feel for him because there's no comparison with Marty,

579
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Speaker 2: you know, like there's we never had a meeting when

580
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 2: Marty decided to leave where we need to get someone

581
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 2: like Marty because there's just no one like Marty. And

582
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 2: then the funny thing is so many people like we

583
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 2: should get Sampang. I'm like, but Sam Pang's got a.

584
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 3: Job, and he's got a job that he really enjoyed.

585
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Speaker 3: And we've known Joel for years.

586
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Speaker 2: I've been really good friends with him, and we've had

587
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 2: pretty big nights together. So I always think that's a

588
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 2: great that we've done the hard part because like with Marty,

589
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,159
Speaker 2: I met him the day before we ever did a

590
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 2: radio show together. So TV's the same radios that they

591
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,400
Speaker 2: just put people together and they go please work. So

592
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 2: maybe I don't know if this is a good thing

593
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 2: or a bad thing that we've got a history together,

594
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 2: but we'll all find out, I guess in the coming weeks.

595
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 1: And I think it's so good that he's completely different

596
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 1: to Marty, like he's his own in what way are

597
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,360
Speaker 1: you talking about? But I mean, I feel like you're

598
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 1: going to bring this element of Sas almost. I feel

599
00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 1: like you're going to have to expect this element of

600
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 1: Sas that will come from him. My next question is

601
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 1: about for sure you work in television as well on

602
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,400
Speaker 1: get Away, on the Project, on the Today Show. I've

603
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: seen you on Sunrise. I feel like the pace of

604
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 1: radio is go, go, go, go go, whereas the pace

605
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 1: of television does it feel a lot slower?

606
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 3: To you?

607
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 2: Well, live TV is different the Today's show stuff, and

608
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 2: the project is probably the closest thing I've done to radio.

609
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 3: I started out doing the Metro Whip, where you had forty.

610
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 2: Seconds to tell people what was happening in Brisbane, and

611
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,959
Speaker 2: mostly I was the last person to do it, and

612
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 2: generally the people in Perth and Autela went a bit over,

613
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 2: so I'd always be over the credits. Like there's one

614
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 2: point I remember when Charlie Pickering was hosting. I was

615
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 2: dressed as a freaking cowboy at the Ecker and I'm

616
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 2: sitting on the back of a horse and the credits

617
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 2: just going over there. OK, And that really annoyed me

618
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 2: because you put all this prep in but it's so

619
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 2: down to the wire, but you still have that exhilaration,

620
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 2: you know.

621
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Speaker 3: So I do Live TV is great.

622
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Speaker 2: I do love Getaway, but I still can't get my

623
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,199
Speaker 2: head around it. It takes us sometimes three days to

624
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 2: make a five minute story on Thailand, but that's not

625
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,679
Speaker 2: necessarily what that's not my bit. The camera guys like

626
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 2: some of these episodes, if you watch them closer that

627
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 2: the quality is just it's all like they're filming a

628
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 2: James Bond movie. Like they're using drones and they're sweeping

629
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 2: over this, and like it's such a great experience. But

630
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,919
Speaker 2: every experience I have in TV makes me love radio

631
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 2: even more. But I'm so blessed to be able to

632
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 2: just dip my toe every now and then into doing

633
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 2: it a little bit to get away or a little

634
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:31,920
Speaker 2: bit of this, or go to the Today Show. But yeah,

635
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 2: the radio is the day job is where it's at.

636
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 3: That's for sure. Totally.

637
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 1: I watched a fun one with you and David rain

638
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 1: on the Murray River and you're on your stand up

639
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,959
Speaker 1: paddle board and he's on his house both and I

640
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 1: was watching it going how long would have that taken

641
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 1: to shoot?

642
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,640
Speaker 3: Have you ever been on a houseboat before? Just never?

643
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 3: Never do it?

644
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 2: And also the other thing is with young kids, how

645
00:27:55,920 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 2: terrifying all four walls is a potential drowning, Like you

646
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 2: can't take your eyes off them for a minute. Every

647
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 2: bedroom has a sliding door out into the water. Like

648
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 2: I'd just see you in the middle of the night,

649
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 2: someone rolled out of bed and there in the Murray

650
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 2: River and it goes so slow, but god, we had

651
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 2: a good time. Dave actually that was the first story

652
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,360
Speaker 2: he'd ever produced, because he's been on camera with Getaway

653
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 2: for as long as I can remember, and Dave and

654
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 2: I have a really good relationship. He's a very very funny, dry, dry,

655
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 2: dry guy, so a very fun guy to share a

656
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 2: couple of peronis with on a houseboat.

657
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: Do you know when I was twenty two, I started

658
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 1: in morning TV with nine Am with David and Kim,

659
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,679
Speaker 1: and he would always save me. If I ever forgot

660
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: of like a talk point, he'd be like, are we

661
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: talking about Li Christi today, Lola? Because I'm a nutritionist

662
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Speaker 1: and he'd always saved me. And to this day, probably

663
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Speaker 1: the biggest legend that I've worked with him in Morning

664
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Speaker 1: tally because he just he cared so much and he

665
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 1: took it really seriously, which was great.

666
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 3: Oh he's a perfectionist. Even in the houseboat.

667
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 2: He's the first up, the first to make his bed,

668
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 2: the first out of the shower, the first to do

669
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Speaker 2: his hair, the first to.

670
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Speaker 3: Write the notes.

671
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 2: Like, actually presenting its story with him as the producer

672
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 2: was a bit like because all the producers you work

673
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 2: with generally are have never presented before, so that you

674
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 2: kind of really want to impress him a lot more

675
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 2: because you know.

676
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 3: He can do a much better job than you, so

677
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 3: you better get this piece of camera right. But we

678
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 3: had a great time. Ah, so good.

679
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Speaker 1: I love Yeah, I loved watching. I've deep dived all

680
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Speaker 1: of your yet well all the getaway stuff, because I've

681
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 1: trained in TV presenting and I'm just like, shit, there's

682
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: no auto qu there.

683
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 2: You're just well, that's what I prefer that there's no

684
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 2: l i Q and radio to the times I've had

685
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 2: to do stuff on the project where I've had to

686
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 2: throw to something and it's been written, or like politicians

687
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 2: on the line down the line and I've got to

688
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 2: throw to a question, but the question is kind of

689
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 2: in there because you've got to give the politician the

690
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 2: questions otherwise they won't go on. That's when I get

691
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 2: a bit nervous because because you will, there's an element

692
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 2: where you can stuff up. But if there's nothing written down, well,

693
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 2: then you can't stuff up because no one said you were.

694
00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 3: Supposed to say this.

695
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I'm much for and also speaking to people

696
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 2: who had done TV a lot longer than I have,

697
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 2: Like I have to walk. I don't know if you know,

698
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 2: Like I have to walk and talk, Like I don't

699
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 2: like standing still and talking And whereas people have been

700
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 2: TV all their lives go, I prefer to have a

701
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Speaker 2: script and sit still.

702
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 3: So I was like, yeah, maybe that's the radio in me.

703
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: No, I love it. And it's fast pace. You're doing

704
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: stuff that's on pace and yeah, you're right every time

705
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: you're more filmed. Yeah, you're walking towards the camera.

706
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 3: The whole time. Yeah.

707
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 2: I did one bit of the Bangkock markets, which I

708
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 2: love the most, because I said, can we do it?

709
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 2: And I also crossed the road because I wanted to

710
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 2: show how not only crazy the market was, but how

711
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 2: crazy the road was in between just the two bits

712
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 2: of the market and the camera guy's like, well, I'm

713
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 2: walking backwards into the traffic here. I'm like, yeah, no worries,

714
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 2: And we didn't just once to see how it would go.

715
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 2: And it was the best fun ever because I had

716
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 2: a chicken come out at me. It was almost like

717
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 2: that scene in that real life Aladdin. Because I've got kids,

718
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 2: I watch it all the time where he's walking for

719
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 2: a Ladd's walking through.

720
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Speaker 3: The markets and singing. That's how I felt.

721
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Speaker 1: Can I ask a question for anybody that is aspiring

722
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: to work in radio or tally? It seems like the

723
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: consistent thing with anybody I interview is work ethic? Would

724
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,239
Speaker 1: you say, and I've heard you talk about it, like

725
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: you know people even in broadcasting school, like I just

726
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: want to work in Melbourne or Sydney, and you're like, dude,

727
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: you need to be getting six days on it. You

728
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: need to get that. I don't know, like the runs

729
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: on the sheet, you know, is it down to work ethic?

730
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 2: I think any job would be well, look at this,

731
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 2: it's not. You probably don't get the job for work ethic,

732
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 2: but you keep the job job for work ethic. And

733
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 2: I remember the good thing about actors as well is

734
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 2: turning in to begad for them. But the seven months there,

735
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 2: like obviously most people in there wanted to be on

736
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 2: the radio. But I learned how to edit. I learned

737
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 2: how to like do the news, to make the sweepers,

738
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 2: to produce shows like we'd run a little radio station

739
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 2: so I'd be the executive producer of it or the

740
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 2: program director. We went out and sold things, and that

741
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 2: even take you out to little radio stations. We went

742
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 2: to Liftgo, which I think the breakfast guy might have

743
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 2: been the sales guy and the general manager and the

744
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 2: guy who was on the street team or on the

745
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 2: one thing. You're like, this is probably the first job

746
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 2: we're all going to get. Do you still want to

747
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 2: do this for a living? And most of us came

748
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 2: out going yes, but no work ethic you'll get you'll

749
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 2: get found out, especially like if you have to do

750
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 2: something every day, like it's it's not easy, Like you're

751
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 2: in here every day depending on what's happened with you

752
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 2: personally or whatever whatever's happened to your co host.

753
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 3: You're in there every day doing a show.

754
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 2: And it's a different show every day too, So if

755
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 2: you don't have that work ethic, you'll get found out

756
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 2: pretty quick.

757
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: And you host and panel, don't you? You do? You're

758
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: a bit of a and usually all.

759
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 2: The sound effects and with my mate Milsey who makes

760
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:41,959
Speaker 2: them more for me and then I put them all

761
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 2: to live. I'm talking to him while Kate's talking, saying

762
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 2: get this or I'm trying to search it up myself

763
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 2: and play it out.

764
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 3: I love all that stuff.

765
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I've heard you say you actually do it

766
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: live in the show and you're like, and then I

767
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 1: can chill during a song, Oh totally.

768
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's great.

769
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, because the songs that actually the songs are almost

770
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 2: the most fun we have because that's when we go

771
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 2: completely outrageous and you might have heard sometime we come

772
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 2: back from a song and that's when you're kind of

773
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 2: like laughing uncontrollably, and that's what kind of gets you

774
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 2: up at about too.

775
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 3: I look forward to our in song band.

776
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 2: So someone suggested once maybe we release the podcast with

777
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 2: all the things we talk about in song, and we all.

778
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 3: Said we will never work again it ever gets released.

779
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: So good though, What about resilience you talked about like

780
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 1: leaving Hughsey and Kate and then going to Michelle like that,

781
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: they're pretty big changes, Like can I imagine you would

782
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: have had to have a sense of resilience with kind

783
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: of like those changes in your career.

784
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 2: Well, this is the longest I've stayed still for a

785
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 2: long time, Like even with school, I went to about

786
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 2: I think I've calculated about eight or nine schools, so

787
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 2: up until recently, there was that's just what happened every

788
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 2: d eighteen months to twenty four months onto the next thing,

789
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 2: and you went to the next thing, and you rented

790
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 2: a new house and you connected a new electric and

791
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 2: met new friends.

792
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 3: That's just kind of how we always reset.

793
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 2: And because my wife, I was so lucky to have

794
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 2: her travel with me at that stays like the move

795
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 2: from Melbourne to Brisbane, I can't under it, I can't

796
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 2: kind of undersell was probably the biggest challenge for our

797
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 2: relationship because she was on track, she was working in

798
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 2: fashion Agaain we were in Melbourne, Like, why wouldn't you

799
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 2: want to be living in Melbourne? But we went and

800
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 2: did it, and as I said, ended up being the

801
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,720
Speaker 2: best thing ever because that ended up being where Michelle,

802
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 2: Tim and Marty was created. But we've always kind of

803
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,280
Speaker 2: we're very good to a good team like that because

804
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 2: as long as we're kind of with each other and

805
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 2: we're pretty we're a tight knit. And now we've got

806
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,399
Speaker 2: the kids as well, where we can kind of still

807
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 2: go anywhere and be faced with anything.

808
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:42,280
Speaker 3: In saying that, though, I'm being.

809
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 2: Gotten pretty comfortable just to hang it in Sydney, yes,

810
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 2: but it's not to say that it's kind of like

811
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 2: I'm not prepared for the next move if there is one,

812
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 2: because that's kind of the nature of the business as well.

813
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 1: I saw a really cute interview where you and your

814
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 1: wife met, like actually at work, is that right? She

815
00:34:58,239 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: saw you in the sound booth and was like, oh,

816
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,800
Speaker 1: he's really cute. And then you met at a NOV event,

817
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 1: Is that right?

818
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 2: Well, you know I met her on that Chili Pepper's

819
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 2: day talking about a massive day.

820
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,280
Speaker 3: Well that was the launch of the station.

821
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 2: She was working on the street team and she'd seen

822
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 2: me through the weeks, but I hadn't really seen her,

823
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 2: and then I asked a mutual friend of ours to

824
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 2: introduce us.

825
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 3: So I'd had a couple of coronas and was coming.

826
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 2: Down from my massive hive doing the Chili Pepper stuff

827
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 2: and embarrassing myself in front of Lord Rothamire, and I thought, well,

828
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:27,879
Speaker 2: why not meet a girl that.

829
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 3: I fancy as well? And this is how long ago

830
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 3: it was.

831
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 2: I asked her if she was like, so, I'm new

832
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 2: to Perth, but if you're free for coffee, I'd love

833
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 2: to see and she got a big file e facts

834
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 2: out of her handbag and she flipped it to find

835
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 2: the day. So that was a pretty big day for

836
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 2: me personally and professionally, I love it.

837
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: And you guys have three bambinos together, yes, which also

838
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: makes me to me it's now a no brainer knowing

839
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 1: that you're a polish Man ambassador, because it's a wonderful

840
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:59,280
Speaker 1: charity that's all about protecting kids and it's all against

841
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: Their mission is to wipe out violence against children, which

842
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: affects one billion kids annually, which is half the kids

843
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:07,240
Speaker 1: in the world.

844
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 3: It's nuts.

845
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:09,760
Speaker 2: With the research you got to do for the radio

846
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 2: show every day too, you unfortunately run into some of

847
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 2: the most horrendous stories that you It doesn't you never

848
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 2: get immune to that stuff. So you know, you do

849
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 2: get a lot of opportunities to do stuff with charities, and.

850
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 3: You can't kind of say no to this one.

851
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 2: I've always been a big admirer of these guys, and

852
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:30,879
Speaker 2: in fact I admire of your nail Polish. I brought

853
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 2: money in because I haven't actually painted myself yet. Do

854
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 2: you doft your left ring finger?

855
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 1: I do both bring that both of that finger whatever

856
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: that is that the ring finger finger.

857
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 2: Well, let me just do that on yours time. Cracking,

858
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 2: but no, what a great charity. And I think if

859
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 2: you search polish Man and my name there might be

860
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:49,760
Speaker 2: a link somewhere.

861
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 3: Just donate what you can.

862
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 2: I know, I feel bad in twenty twenty asking people

863
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 2: who've lost jobs and have no idea what's coming coming

864
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 2: next month in the awful year. But if you've got

865
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 2: five bucks, you got two bucks, anything you can do,

866
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 2: just throw it in there and it's all going to

867
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 2: kids who need it, and that's the main thing.

868
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 1: And I'll pop it in the show notes here as well.

869
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: It's been a total honor to have you on the pod.

870
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 1: Any final last words of wisdom because you are totally

871
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 1: living the dream in my opinion, So just one little

872
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 1: gem of wisdom from your awesome brain. Oh my goodness, Um,

873
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: I know loaded.

874
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,240
Speaker 2: So he really probably on the spot, I've had something

875
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 2: for you like that. My word of wisdom is always

876
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 2: have a word of wisdom prepared.

877
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 3: Basic.

878
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 2: Maybe you know I learned this Ross stevensone who's one

879
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,800
Speaker 2: of my idolso does three A w Breakfast in Melbourne

880
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 2: who's been doing that show for about twenty six years, says,

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Speaker 2: if you're if you're not looking, hang on, let me

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Speaker 2: get this right now.

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Speaker 3: This is embarrassing.

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Speaker 2: You'd rather be looking at it than looking for it.

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Speaker 2: I like that the was thing to yourself. Should I

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Speaker 2: take it?

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Speaker 3: Jacket? Just take your jacket?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, fair fee.

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Speaker 2: That's my word of wisdom in a really clunky way.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 1: You're wonderful and it's been a total honor to have

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Speaker 1: you on the show.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Thank you, Lola, I appreciate your time.

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Speaker 1: That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always,

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Speaker 1: thank you to our guests, and let's continue the conversation

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Speaker 1: on Instagram. I'm at Yamo Lolaberry. This potty my word

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Speaker 1: for podcast is available on all streaming platforms. I'd love

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Speaker 1: it if you could subscribe, rate and comment and of

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Speaker 1: course spread the love.