Speaker 1: Are the pickup with Brittley and Laura Ben Brady or
Speaker 1: what our windows done?
Speaker 2: That's my world reason the dust only good, babs all down.
Speaker 3: I don't much, but yeah I'm not.
Speaker 4: I'll beget and what I want.
Speaker 2: It don't matter where that does. This is the.
Speaker 5: Pick up, Hi, guys, it's the pick up with Brett
Speaker 5: Hackley and Laura Ben.
Speaker 2: You know, I was just thinking when I listen and
Speaker 2: singing my head to our opener, what it does matter
Speaker 2: where you get it? It says it doesn't matter where
Speaker 2: you get it? It does you get it from the
Speaker 2: pick up?
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm so glad that after two weeks you've just
Speaker 5: realized that.
Speaker 3: No, I'm not the first time you've actually listened to him.
Speaker 2: I've thought it since I heard it, but I'm like,
Speaker 2: just listened again, and I was.
Speaker 3: Like, it does matter.
Speaker 5: Okay, Well maybe you can raise that with management after this,
Speaker 5: do you know?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 5: I'm deep in turmoil everyone, I've been split down the middle?
Speaker 3: How have you been splipped? I wish I've been broken
Speaker 3: in two and that is because my husband.
Speaker 5: Is currently You can't just brush over a joke when
Speaker 5: I had to, I had to. My husband is currently
Speaker 5: on I'm a celebrity, get me out of here. But
Speaker 5: something else now is taking my attention. Married at First
Speaker 5: Sight has just started and the times overlap, and I
Speaker 5: need to show support for him, but I also deeply
Speaker 5: love Married.
Speaker 3: At First Site.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not gonna lie. I watched Married at First
Speaker 2: Site last night, but voted for Matt without watching, so
Speaker 2: like I voted for him, but I didn't see the episode,
Speaker 2: but I watched Matt.
Speaker 6: Well.
Speaker 5: I appreciate the votes because tonight he's in Tucker Trial,
Speaker 5: So I'm pretty stoked about that.
Speaker 3: We have a great show.
Speaker 5: For you guys today and someone who's joining us Michelle Mitchell. Now,
Speaker 5: Michelle Mitchell is a parenting expert, and I have been
Speaker 5: having a lot of problems with Lola and her starting
Speaker 5: at a new daycare. This conversation for anyone who has
Speaker 5: kids going to school or if you're in that sort
Speaker 5: of like really tricky transition with little kids, I think
Speaker 5: you're going to get so much out of this chat
Speaker 5: with her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's amazing, isn't she? And you do need a
Speaker 2: lot of help right now. Thanks, And we're always than one,
Speaker 2: all right, get the show going to kick it off?
Speaker 2: It is time for our pick me up song and
Speaker 2: absolutely classic one more time Daft Punk?
Speaker 3: Do you know when this song came out?
Speaker 2: If it is going to.
Speaker 3: Blow your balls off?
Speaker 2: Nineteen ninety nine came out in twenty twenty five years ago.
Speaker 3: I got it and it was pretty impressive.
Speaker 2: That's amazing. I'm amazed.
Speaker 3: Well, your balls can stay intact?
Speaker 2: Oh, so how old aren't we?
Speaker 5: You might have heard that I was speaking about my
Speaker 5: daughter Lola, who's just started at a new daycare and
Speaker 5: she is having a truly horrible time transitioning to a
Speaker 5: new daycare. Not only is she having a hard time,
Speaker 5: but as a parent, I am having a horrible, horrible time.
Speaker 2: And there's a parent's friend and business partner.
Speaker 5: Well, there's nothing worse as a parent leaving your child
Speaker 5: somewhere and having them be sad and cry for you.
Speaker 3: And with school coming up very soon, there's going to
Speaker 3: be a.
Speaker 5: Lot of parents across the country who are going to
Speaker 5: be dropping their kids off for school in the very
Speaker 5: first day. And we have Michelle Mitchell with us now.
Speaker 5: She is a child expert. With had her on the
Speaker 5: show many times and she's written an incredible book around
Speaker 5: building resilience in children, And the big question is is
Speaker 5: this resilience building or is it a time when a
Speaker 5: parent needs to swoop in and help them?
Speaker 3: Michelle, welcome back to the show.
Speaker 6: Oh thanks for having me, Laura. And it's such a
Speaker 6: privilege to talk about.
Speaker 1: Your little four year old.
Speaker 6: I mean, aren't they so precious at this age?
Speaker 3: No, she's the best. You almost four county down to
Speaker 3: a birthday?
Speaker 2: Or Michelle, what do you think? I mean, do you
Speaker 2: think this is relatively normal to be this excessively upset
Speaker 2: like all night after and all morning.
Speaker 1: It can be, Okay, it can be, And only Laura
Speaker 1: can really answer this. So if you'll step into my office, Laura,
Speaker 1: I have three questions for you. Will you answer these
Speaker 1: for me?
Speaker 2: Absolutely?
Speaker 6: I think the first question.
Speaker 1: You want to ask yourself is how big does this
Speaker 1: feel for you? Because that's normally a mirror of how
Speaker 1: big that feels for our kids. So if our kids
Speaker 1: were leaving high school or leaving school or getting married,
Speaker 1: you know it would pull on our heart strings in
Speaker 1: exactly the same way. So let's not minimize it because
Speaker 1: there's three going on four. So how big does it
Speaker 1: feel for you? Give me a number between one and
Speaker 1: ten being like I can't cope with this anymore.
Speaker 5: Oh, It's it's funny you say that, Michelle, because when
Speaker 5: we left, like I think any mum kind of knows,
Speaker 5: that you become very close with the daycare or the
Speaker 5: place that your kids are at. And the last day
Speaker 5: that we had at her old daycare, I was in
Speaker 5: tears because I didn't I don't want her to change.
Speaker 5: It was more a decision that Matt had made. And
Speaker 5: I think potentially she has seen how upset I have
Speaker 5: gotten over the process, and I probably haven't set her
Speaker 5: up for being I think we did everything right to
Speaker 5: start with.
Speaker 3: We were trying to be excited.
Speaker 5: But now as she's getting distressed, I'm getting more distressed
Speaker 5: about it, and so I think it's just escalating each other.
Speaker 1: So you would be almost better off vocalizing those things
Speaker 1: like I'm really missing your old daycare teachers right now?
Speaker 6: Are you missing them? Because I think you.
Speaker 1: And your daughter are mirroring some of those feelings. So
Speaker 1: my next question for you would be in your gut
Speaker 1: and to the best of your knowledge, is she safe
Speaker 1: where she is? Does that KINDI have checks and balances
Speaker 1: in place? And do you think it's a good place.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's no, it's a fantastic daycare, like it is
Speaker 5: a fantastic, fantastic school. I think I'm just so used
Speaker 5: to the familiarity that even for me, I was like,
Speaker 5: I hate change. Now she's so little and she has
Speaker 5: to go through that change herself.
Speaker 2: You do hate change, That's true.
Speaker 1: That's really easy to blame ourself for everything. So we
Speaker 1: don't want to get too sort of like internally focused
Speaker 1: with it. And I taught grade one a long time ago,
Speaker 1: but I'd always say to parents, don't tell your kids
Speaker 1: that you are going to leave them now or drop
Speaker 1: them off. You aren't leaving them, You're not dropping them anywhere.
Speaker 1: You're actually deliberately intentionally transferring them to me. So you
Speaker 1: say something like your teachers are going to look after you. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm going to be at work and I'm going to
Speaker 1: be right here at three o'clock.
Speaker 2: Michelle, The question is like Laura is trying to decide
Speaker 2: if she's stuck it out for a couple of weeks, now,
Speaker 2: does she think is it going to change for is
Speaker 2: she going to ease in eventually or if she stood
Speaker 2: this upset after this couple of weeks, should Laura be
Speaker 2: taking her back to the old daycare, you.
Speaker 1: Can introduce some strategies like leave a heart in her
Speaker 1: pocket strategy. So let me tell you about this one.
Speaker 1: So when you drop her off, Laura, have a little
Speaker 1: red love heart piece of paper cut up and give
Speaker 1: it to her and say to her, sweet, I want
Speaker 1: you to put this in your pocket. And anytime you
Speaker 1: feel unsure, or anytime you feel a little bit like
Speaker 1: you're missing mommy, I want you to put your heart
Speaker 1: in hand in your pocket, and I want to remember
Speaker 1: that I'll be thinking of.
Speaker 3: You all day.
Speaker 6: But what that does if it gives your teacher a
Speaker 6: chance to loop into that. And so your teacher, if
Speaker 6: she knows your daughter's like.
Speaker 1: Feeling anxious, she can go to her and say, put
Speaker 1: your heart hand in your pocket. Honey, what's your mommy
Speaker 1: doing right now? Thinking about you? She's loving me.
Speaker 3: Michelle wonderful. Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Okay, so we're going to try the hard thing before
Speaker 2: we pull her out.
Speaker 3: Law. Yeah, yeah, I'm.
Speaker 2: Gonna have to take over the at home now. Everyone,
Speaker 2: Laura just quit. Thanks for shoe, Laura quit.
Speaker 5: Like I said, it's something that so many parents go through.
Speaker 5: I think it's something that hits working parents particularly hard
Speaker 5: because you don't have an option and the whole you know,
Speaker 5: like maybe take them in later or pick them up
Speaker 5: earlier and make the days shorter.
Speaker 3: And it's like great, all that's great in theory.
Speaker 5: But when you have a job that you have to
Speaker 5: be out that doesn't allow you to do those things,
Speaker 5: you just feel like you're such a crap parent and
Speaker 5: you're not doing a good job, and it's it's really
Speaker 5: hard to navigate.
Speaker 2: You are doing a bloody good job. You are. Hopefully
Speaker 2: those kids turn out okay a couple of years, we'll
Speaker 2: find out.
Speaker 5: Well, if anyone wants to get more of Michelle, she's
Speaker 5: written some incredible books, every Day Resilience Journal, and she
Speaker 5: sold her one hundred thousand copies worldwide, So go and
Speaker 5: pick that up.
Speaker 3: This is so cute.
Speaker 2: Hey, you know someone else that's probably going to be
Speaker 2: crying pretty soon. The Bride's on Maths. It's that time
Speaker 2: of year again. It has kicked off last night, and
Speaker 2: I want to talk about one of the couples. What
Speaker 2: would you do if you got onto a show like
Speaker 2: that and you were paired with an X Because that
Speaker 2: has happened. Don't forget to head into chemist's warehouse and
Speaker 2: say more money every year on your regular medication and
Speaker 2: discounted prescriptions in every store every day. We're going to
Speaker 2: be talking about it next. It is that time of
Speaker 2: year again where you need to strap in and be
Speaker 2: ready for the d drama.
Speaker 5: I'm not ready for my life to be taken over
Speaker 5: by Maths.
Speaker 2: Maths has started. It kicked off last night. I watched it,
Speaker 2: which is shocking because I don't often watch it.
Speaker 5: You don't like it. I'm the one in this duo
Speaker 5: that's sick for Maths.
Speaker 2: It's true, but I'm glad I did watch it. In
Speaker 2: an Australian first, they have paired two people that already dated.
Speaker 3: We're going to get a different guy.
Speaker 4: What well, they make a gorgeous looking couple. Put it
Speaker 4: that way, option, I think you fell in love already.
Speaker 3: She ghosted me.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So, in an Australian first, Karina and Paul were
Speaker 2: matched together and the bombshell was dropped that they in
Speaker 2: fact have already dated. And not only did they date,
Speaker 2: but Paul completely ghosted it. They went on this amazing date.
Speaker 2: She thought she killed it. She thought it was going
Speaker 2: to be like hot property, and then he just never
Speaker 2: messaged her again until they see each other at the
Speaker 2: end of an aisle and A'm marrying each other on
Speaker 2: national television.
Speaker 5: It just seems too coincidental for me, Like, how does
Speaker 5: this happen?
Speaker 3: And I mean, look, on one hand, the.
Speaker 5: Skeptic in me says that this was completely fabricated and produced.
Speaker 5: But on the other hand, I was like, how would
Speaker 5: you find two people who one person has ghosted? Like
Speaker 5: how would you actually find them to be able to
Speaker 5: match them together in the first place?
Speaker 2: The producers one hundred percent, I'm sorry, is someone that's
Speaker 2: a bit of unfortunately a reality TV veteran. The producers
Speaker 2: one hundred percent knew that they knew each other. Did
Speaker 2: they know that they dated and ghosted? I'm not convinced,
Speaker 2: but they knew that they knew each other, they would
Speaker 2: have done their due diligence in some capacity. Maybe they're
Speaker 2: following each other on Instagram. Maybe they've got a huge
Speaker 2: group of mutual friends. Like producers on reality shows, they
Speaker 2: check that when they decide that you're on or if
Speaker 2: you're going to be on, they check your followers list.
Speaker 2: They've crosschecked to see if you're following any of the
Speaker 2: other contestants. Or if there's any kind of connection.
Speaker 5: But do you think the ghosting was serendipitous like a
Speaker 5: producer's dream, or do you think that the producers knew
Speaker 5: that he had ghosted her before the show.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but my spidery senses aren't giving me
Speaker 2: enough tingles for that yet. But I think it's interesting
Speaker 2: to see what happens because in real life, would you
Speaker 2: give somebody else another go if you had gone on
Speaker 2: a date and they completely ghosted you, blanked, you don't
Speaker 2: want to speak to you again, then all of a
Speaker 2: sudden you were marrying them.
Speaker 3: Would you have walked out?
Speaker 2: Or would you have just been like, oh shit, I'm
Speaker 2: just going to pretend me now.
Speaker 5: Or twenty year old me who liked to date toxic
Speaker 5: men me back in my twenties. I think I do
Speaker 5: that I didn marry them with that the altar, but
Speaker 5: I would have given guys a second chance because I
Speaker 5: was like, they.
Speaker 3: Can change for me, I can make them better.
Speaker 5: I think it's so unfair for the girl, Like, I
Speaker 5: haven't seen this, but imagine if you've signed up for
Speaker 5: this show, obviously you know that it's drama and there's
Speaker 5: you know, potentially gonna get some Instagram followers and everything else.
Speaker 5: But you do hope you're gonna get paired with a
Speaker 5: decent bloke. You'd be pretty damn sad that the only
Speaker 5: person you were paired with was a guy who goes
Speaker 5: to do so. Now she has no option other than
Speaker 5: to walk out or to give this guy a second chance.
Speaker 2: The thing here is, though she has agreed to give
Speaker 2: him a second chance. Good on her because I think,
Speaker 2: you know, it's not the end of the world.
Speaker 5: She could see the potential in him, Whilst I think
Speaker 5: it's a red flag.
Speaker 2: He really doubled down on his red flagginess.
Speaker 5: Listen, I'm so grateful that she is open to you
Speaker 5: to give me a second chance.
Speaker 7: Guy.
Speaker 2: Just feel so relieved. Honestly, I'm over the moon, Like
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm more egli. I just feel like I
Speaker 2: feel like a little kid. To be honestly, I can
Speaker 2: surely already pictured life with him. That's how crazy it is.
Speaker 7: Oh, I'm pro he goes to her and now he
Speaker 7: says he can see his life with her after seeing
Speaker 7: her for two seconds, after ghosting her for eight months.
Speaker 3: What is wrong with this guy?
Speaker 5: I just think he's someone who's well versed in reality TV.
Speaker 5: I think he knows and he also knows how to
Speaker 5: do the dance and like and like get people on side. So,
Speaker 5: like I said, I haven't seen it yet, but I
Speaker 5: have read a lot about this already today. It's weird
Speaker 5: how deep in it I am for someone who hasn't
Speaker 5: seen the show yet. But he apparently went up to
Speaker 5: the family and kind of like explained to the family
Speaker 5: that he had ghosted her, but he was going through
Speaker 5: a lot at the time and managed to get the
Speaker 5: parents on board to say, like, what an upstanding guy
Speaker 5: he is. So he's managed to go from being a
Speaker 5: guy that goes to their daughter to them thinking that
Speaker 5: he's an amazing person. And to me, I think he
Speaker 5: is just someone who is very, very reality TV literate,
Speaker 5: and he knew that this is all going to come out.
Speaker 3: There's no other way to get around it.
Speaker 5: So the best way is to attack up front on
Speaker 5: be sorry, and to try and be this like, you know,
Speaker 5: we're gonna love each other.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be amazing.
Speaker 2: I think for there be the master manipulator of the
Speaker 2: show married at first sight, master manipulator. That's what it
Speaker 2: should be. Cooled.
Speaker 5: Well, let's see but also look, who knows they could
Speaker 5: end up being a happy couple at the end of it.
Speaker 3: All right, well, coming up.
Speaker 5: Next, we have our vibes and unsubscribed to the week
Speaker 5: and Britt something about telepathy.
Speaker 3: You think that this might be the next big thing.
Speaker 2: Sorry, did you get that? I was just trying to
Speaker 2: send you my answer. Okay, this is a new segment
Speaker 2: that we've brought onto the Pickup that Laura and I
Speaker 2: do on our podcast Life on Cut podcast. It's vibes
Speaker 2: in unsubscribed something that this week has really got our attention,
Speaker 2: or that we're like frothing, or maybe it's something that
Speaker 2: we're hating. All I am frothing something so hard this week.
Speaker 2: So my vibe this week is a podcast series. Now
Speaker 2: before you come for me, hear me out. It's not
Speaker 2: my normal vibe. But it is a podcast series called
Speaker 2: Telepathy Tapes.
Speaker 5: When you first mentioned this to me and you were like,
Speaker 5: I'm really into telepathy, now, I I did take the piece,
Speaker 5: and now that I know more about it, I'd take
Speaker 5: that back.
Speaker 2: So basically, we all know the autism spectrum varies greatly.
Speaker 2: There are non speaking autistic people that only can communicate
Speaker 2: by a typing machine basically. And since they've started doing this,
Speaker 2: there's been this investigative journalist neuroscientists as doing all these
Speaker 2: studies and they're basically proven that these kids are talking
Speaker 2: to each other in their mind. They can read their parents' minds,
Speaker 2: they can read their family's minds. It's truly gives me
Speaker 2: goose swamps. Have I listened to this?
Speaker 8: I'm working with children who have been reported by a
Speaker 8: parent to be able to read their mind. The data
Speaker 8: was so compelling and accurate that I had to follow it,
Speaker 8: even though I knew I was missing my scientific reputation.
Speaker 8: I started testing them and I found that they were
Speaker 8: exceedingly accurate. After the medical board took my license away,
Speaker 8: I had to prove my sanity Once I did, said
Speaker 8: I'm going to prove that ESP is real.
Speaker 3: So but did he prove it?
Speaker 2: That's the question.
Speaker 3: Did she prove it?
Speaker 6: Well?
Speaker 2: Yes, this is what the series is. There's videos like
Speaker 2: I cannot explain the goosebumps that I get, where a
Speaker 2: mother and a son are sitting there being filmed from
Speaker 2: multiple angles. Sometimes the child's in another room. The mother
Speaker 2: is shown, for example, a number, and it could be
Speaker 2: any number like a rand, someone else independent has put
Speaker 2: two numbers in a calculator thirty five times nine hundred
Speaker 2: and seventy two. They show the mom the answer, and
Speaker 2: the second that she reads it in her mind. In
Speaker 2: the other room, the child is putting that number into
Speaker 2: it and it is accurate every time. It is like
Speaker 2: nothing you've ever seen?
Speaker 3: How can this be real? Though it's kind of this
Speaker 3: reminds me of it.
Speaker 5: It reminds me of it is very different, but are
Speaker 5: also similar in some ways. You know the stories of
Speaker 5: little kids who have memories from past lives and things,
Speaker 5: and there's this really famous story of this little boy
Speaker 5: who had vivid memory of being like an actor from
Speaker 5: many years ago who had kids, and they followed it
Speaker 5: back and the stories all aligned.
Speaker 3: You think, like, how does this exist?
Speaker 2: But you cannot, you cannot listen to this series and
Speaker 2: not question. That's what I'm saying. I'm not so necessarily
Speaker 2: saying you have to believe it, but it will make
Speaker 2: you question what you think you know. Please go and listen.
Speaker 5: Well, I also have a vibe this week that will
Speaker 5: make you question everything too. It's also very highbrow, deep introspective.
Speaker 5: It's I'm a celebrity, get me out of here.
Speaker 3: And that is just night's episode.
Speaker 5: And the reason for that is because my husband, Maddy
Speaker 5: Jay has made it into the Tucker Trial and I
Speaker 5: just cannot wait to watch him eat some sort of
Speaker 5: pig asshole or something disgusting.
Speaker 3: I want him to be tortured live on National TV.
Speaker 3: I'm thrilled.
Speaker 2: Wow, you're so I do.
Speaker 5: I love him, I love him so much. He's the
Speaker 5: love of my life. But like torture him, Robert, I
Speaker 5: won't go for gold.
Speaker 2: You will have to kiss those same lips that kissed
Speaker 2: a button.
Speaker 5: I'm sure he's kissed a butte before mine.
Speaker 2: Actually, it's okay, Hey, is someone that did the show
Speaker 2: last year? I have been in the Tucker Trial. I
Speaker 2: can say that here one hundred percent is going to
Speaker 2: project our vomit. Do you know one thing that didn't
Speaker 2: make the cut last year? Because I vomited everywhere with
Speaker 2: I had like a pig nipple tickling in the back
Speaker 2: of my throat. I like gagged vomited it up, but
Speaker 2: like at the same time as I vomited, I coughed,
Speaker 2: and the slow motion pigs nipple flew across the air
Speaker 2: and landed on Robert Irwin's shoe for everything.
Speaker 5: Why does this stuff get cut out? This is the
Speaker 5: stuff we really want to see.
Speaker 3: Do you know why?
Speaker 5: Because it's also dinner time across Australia and no one
Speaker 5: wants to watch you.
Speaker 3: Like you can have a few gags, but no one
Speaker 3: wants to watch you project our vomit on Robert Irwin.
Speaker 3: All right, well look guys, that's it from us.