1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: Hi, and welcome to a very special episode of Outspoken. 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: You're joined as usual by journalists Amy Sophie and Kate Torber. 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: Have you ever wondered what it's like to be a 4 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: mother of triplets? Well today we're joined by our very 5 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: special mum, Linda, who was just twenty nine years old 6 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: when she found out she was going to become a 7 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: mum to identical triplet girls. Our mum's story is extremely 8 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: inspiring and we want to say a big thank you 9 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: to her for being the most amazing mum and helping 10 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: us become the women we are today. So we do 11 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: all hope you enjoy this very candid look at what 12 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: life is like for a mum of triplets. Well, thank 13 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:42,919 Speaker 1: you so much for joining us for this special episode 14 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: of Outspoken. Mum, welcome to Outspoken. I know you're I 15 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: think you're the podcast number one fan. 16 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 2: That is absolutely correct, own business. 17 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: Sorry for all the swearing that you tell us of 18 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: for yes, I don't really like the swearing, so let's 19 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: have a swear free podcast today. What did you think 20 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 1: about the arguing last week? 21 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 2: I wasn't feeling impressed. 22 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: Now, Maum, we wanted to take you back to nineteen 23 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: eighty eight. When you first discovered that you were pregnant 24 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 1: at the time, did you feel like it was there 25 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: was something different about this pregnancy at all? 26 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 2: Not really. I had a scan at about eight weeks 27 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 2: and then discovered I was having well we were having twins, 28 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 2: so that was very exciting. 29 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: Who was hiding? 30 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 2: I really don't know, can't answer that. 31 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,759 Speaker 1: So how poor must have the technology been back then 32 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 1: to say that you were having twins? 33 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 2: Well, then naturally conceived, So I guess no one was 34 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 2: really looking for more than one baby and discovered two, 35 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 2: So I don't think they're really looking for any more 36 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 2: than two. 37 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 3: And what was going through your mind? 38 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: Can you? Can you paint the picture for us when 39 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: you found out that it was actually three instead of two. 40 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 2: Well, my obstetrician that I was seeing was actually away, 41 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 2: and I went to see his colleague and he had 42 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: me was measuring my waist and sort of humming and 43 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 2: hrring and thinking I was too big for my dates, 44 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 2: so sent me off for a scan and he just said, oh, 45 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 2: I found another baby, that's all and walked out of 46 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 2: the room to go and get his receptionist to go 47 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 2: and get her to come and have a look at 48 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 2: the scan. Meanwhile I was looking at the ceiling, not 49 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 2: saying good word. 50 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: I was a bit overcome, and knowing Dad, I'm assuming 51 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: just having the idea of having twins probably would have 52 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: been mind blowing to Dad having two girls. What was 53 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: his reaction to finding out now it was three? 54 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 2: First of all, we didn't know what sex they were, 55 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 2: but at the time he was with the scan. He 56 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 2: was with me when I had the scan done, and 57 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 2: he just looked at the ceiling and shook his head. 58 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 3: Did he have a cigarette? 59 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 2: Not allowed? 60 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 3: I can actually imagine what his expression would have been like. 61 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 3: What was the reaction from your other family members? 62 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 2: I went my parents and my mum said to me, well, 63 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,519 Speaker 2: how am I going to cope? That was my mum's reaction. 64 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 2: Hugh's mum's reaction, Your father's mum's reaction was, oh, that's nicety. 65 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 2: Now what coles today? I was shocking and I just went, oh, 66 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 2: my goodness. 67 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 3: Did you feel kind of alone? 68 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: Because I suppose I wouldn't, you know, there's not too 69 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: many people that have given birth to triplets. 70 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 3: Was it kind of hard? 71 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: Because I mean that would have been at a time 72 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 1: where you couldn't jump online and connect with someone else 73 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: who'd gone through the experience. 74 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 2: I think I was actually naive, and I think that 75 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:34,839 Speaker 2: was a good thing. I just thought, oh, this would 76 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 2: be wonderful. Everything will turn out fine, nothing will go wrong. 77 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 2: And I think if I was older, I probably would 78 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 2: have worried, and if I'd had Google, I would have 79 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 2: been super worried. But no, it wasn't at all. 80 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: And how I mean, it's hard to say because obviously 81 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: you were the only children you have, But from what 82 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: you've heard, how do you think your pregnancy differed from 83 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: like a normal one child pregnancy. 84 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 2: Well, I was really lucky because I was sick. Some 85 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 2: poor women are sick. For the first three months, I 86 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 2: did not have one day. The only thing as well, 87 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 2: I was really tired, and that I grew quite big. 88 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: I was going to say, Mum, now, we did threaten 89 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: to use a photo of you heavily pregnant in your 90 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 1: bra at our twenty first birthday to illustrate the first 91 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: photo of I was But you were big and you 92 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: were only five foot one. So what was it actually 93 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: like carrying around all that weight, especially I suppose as 94 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 1: your pregnancy progressed. 95 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 2: Well, I only found out at twenty nine weeks that 96 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 2: are that we were actually having triplets. So all that 97 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 2: time I thought we were having twins. So after this 98 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 2: said scan, when they told me I was having another 99 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 2: baby at a couple of weeks later, I was put 100 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 2: into hospital and that's where I stayed until you were born. 101 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 1: So, if you only thought you were having twins up 102 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: until then, which names were you going with? Which name 103 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,359 Speaker 1: was that Kate Amy or Sophie? 104 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 3: Sophie? 105 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 2: Probably Well, actually we hadn't agreed on anything. I think 106 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 2: the boys' names were actually easier. And no, actually that's incorrect. Sorry, 107 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 2: the girl's names were a lot easier and the boys 108 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 2: would probably still be unnamed. 109 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: So did you want a want boys or girls or 110 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: a mixture? 111 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 2: Actually, I really wanted to have at least one girl. 112 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 2: I wanted a girl somewhere, and we're just blessed to 113 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:28,559 Speaker 2: have three. 114 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: And you know, mothers speak about that experience of feeling 115 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: like the kick for the first time. 116 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 3: What does it feel like to have three babies? 117 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:38,799 Speaker 1: And did you was there a time or real kicking, 118 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 1: because I mean we fight as it is now, I 119 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:42,679 Speaker 1: mean we might have been having a fight in your stomach. 120 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 2: Well, there were some occasions where you were having fights 121 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 2: in my stomach. I couldn't actually guarantee. 122 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 3: That maybe someone was brought up the AFLW or. 123 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 2: Something maybe, but just blessed that you were all healthy, 124 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 2: and that's the main thing. 125 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: And for someone who hasn't seen this infamous photo of you, 126 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: just how big did you get and how uncomfort was 127 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: it in the final stages of the pregnancy. 128 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 2: Well after they found out that we were having triplets, 129 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 2: I went, I had a couple of weeks resting at home, 130 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 2: and then they put me into hospital. So twenty nine 131 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 2: and a half weeks I think I went into hospital 132 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 2: and had the last couple of weeks there and all 133 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 2: I did was lying a bed. So you babies grew. 134 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 2: I think they said a pound each, so that was 135 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 2: quite a lot. And at the end I just couldn't 136 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 2: wait for you to get out because there was just 137 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 2: no more room. It was just very very tight and uncomfortable. 138 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 2: You obviously touched on that you're in hospital, But why 139 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 2: was that and how risky was it at this time 140 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 2: to be having triplets. I think they were just concerned 141 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 2: that you were actually quite small at that time, and 142 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 2: I think they just wanted to monitor everything, and I 143 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 2: think in the end, I did have some issues I 144 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 2: had and had some possible renal failure, so that was 145 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 2: why you were brought on and I had an injection 146 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 2: to increase your lung capacity, and then you were born 147 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 2: twenty four hours later. 148 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 1: So is this why we are older now? Because I'm 149 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: already upset at turning thirty. 150 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 3: But it could have been postponed. Been May. 151 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: I think it was May the tenth, was your actual 152 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: drey date you spoke about the threat of having renal failure. 153 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 3: Did you ever actually think that you might die? 154 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 2: No, not at all. 155 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 3: Ife was just the busness the note. 156 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 2: I think my brothers, because they're all doctors, were concerned. 157 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 2: It was back in the day where you had a 158 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 2: clipboard on the end of your bed, so when they 159 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 2: used to come and visit me in hospital, they would 160 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 2: look at the clipboard before they'd say hello, and was 161 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 2: checking out my you know, all the results I was 162 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 2: getting back, and I think they were concerned, but no, 163 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 2: I was just oblivious. 164 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: And what was it like, the moment that you actually 165 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: they all decided, Okay, you can't go on anymore, you 166 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: have to give birth. 167 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 2: What was that like, Well, it was actually it was 168 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 2: it was a little bit stressful, and I was just 169 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 2: really pleased when it all started because I was just 170 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 2: so uncomfortable. 171 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: And you wanted to have an I know, obviously with 172 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: three you can't have a natural birth, but you're one 173 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: of those people that actually wanted to. 174 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 2: Well, I did ask whether I could have a natural birth, 175 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 2: and the doctor said, I don't guarantee the third one 176 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 2: to get out on time, And well, well, okay, very nitty. 177 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: So do some people actually have a natural birth with 178 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: some peoples? 179 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, they do. Some people do, because. 180 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: I thought that was crazy on friends when Phoebe gave 181 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: birth naturally. 182 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 2: I don't know if they really want you to, but 183 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 2: sometimes that does happen. 184 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: Can you talk us through what the birth was like? 185 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: I can only imagine. I've heard different stories about me 186 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 1: floating to the top and weird things. So can you 187 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: tell us what that was like and what the operating 188 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,719 Speaker 1: room looked like and all those gory details and. 189 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 3: How many cigarettes Dad had? 190 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 2: Dad? 191 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 3: There was he down there? 192 00:08:58,600 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: Dad? 193 00:08:58,880 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 3: Goland? 194 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 2: No, No, your father was not down the goal and 195 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 2: he was That. 196 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: Wouldn't have been that wouldn't have been the goal and anyway, well. 197 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 2: The stomach again, no, he was up helping me. No, 198 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 2: I had an epidural, and the anthetist was fabulous. She 199 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 2: actually had a child that I knew through the dental clinic, 200 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 2: and so I had actually met her in a professional sense. 201 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 2: And she looked at me, and I looked at her, 202 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 2: and I thought, where do we know each other from? 203 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,079 Speaker 2: So I actually had so of. 204 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 3: Course, that happens to you that you know somebody every 205 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 3: time you know. 206 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 2: Sdelaide once had the epidural. I actually had the shakes 207 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 2: for the whole time I was having you. So she 208 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 2: was wonderful. She just sat with me and talked to 209 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 2: me and said I'd be all right. She was amazing. 210 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 2: Your father was at the other side. He was sort 211 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 2: of there. I remember he was kind of it was 212 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 2: kind of helpful. Yes, I just remember there were so 213 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 2: many people in the room because there had to be 214 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 2: a doctor for each of you, and they had to 215 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 2: be a neonatal nurse and they had to be I 216 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 2: don't know. There just seem to be so many people, 217 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:04,719 Speaker 2: about twenty one people there, and there was even the 218 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 2: janitor there with the broom. I remember. I don't know 219 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 2: why he was there. He was down the action end. 220 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 2: I'm not sure what he was doing if they allow 221 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 2: him in there that I don't know if he was 222 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 2: the janitor, but he had a broom. 223 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: I don't know why was none of them? 224 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 2: No, no, no. Back in those days, the parents waited 225 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:27,719 Speaker 2: by the phone. 226 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: So if one of us was giving birth, would you 227 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: want to be there? 228 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 2: If I was asked, I would be. 229 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: What does it actually feel like to see three babies 230 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: being pulled from your stomach? 231 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 2: Well, they actually have a little screen up, so you 232 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 2: actually don't see much at all. They just pulled Kate 233 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 2: out and she was the smallest, so they actually whisked 234 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 2: her away and I sort of didn't even touch her 235 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 2: until some time later. And then they took Amy out 236 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 2: and they did actually put her by me and like 237 00:10:57,840 --> 00:10:58,599 Speaker 2: she doesn't. 238 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 3: Explain the favorite older. 239 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 2: And then they did the same for Sophie. So I 240 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 2: did actually see kay closer. I'm in Sophie, but I 241 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 2: did see Kate, but she was she was the smallest. 242 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 2: So we're concerned about how and what were your first impressions. 243 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 2: I was actually really excited to have three girls. 244 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: I was just. 245 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 2: Thrilled and because you're all healthy, and you know that 246 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 2: was part of it, because prior to you being born 247 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 2: they're taking me down to the neonatal in their natural 248 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,199 Speaker 2: room and showed me some kids that had been born 249 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 2: before you had been and at a lesser week, less 250 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 2: number of weeks, just to show me that you know, 251 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 2: you were going to survive. I never had any doubts. 252 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 2: I just thought you'd be okay. Perhaps that was because 253 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 2: I was young and silly and didn't actually realize things 254 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 2: go wrong. 255 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: You're twenty nine. I suppose you weren't that young. But 256 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: maybe it's maybe maybe your positivity ensured everything. You know, 257 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: when you think positive, positive things happened. Was there any 258 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: crying or when we were ripped out. 259 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 3: From us or from whom, from the babies? 260 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 2: I don't actually remember that. Probably was a little squawk 261 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 2: or two, but I actually don't recall. 262 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: Well when I just was thinking about it then, because 263 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: obviously we were like very close to each other, was it? 264 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 1: And then they took us away and put us an incubator. 265 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 1: The I wonder if we were missing each other, could 266 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:21,559 Speaker 1: we see each other? 267 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 2: They actually put you close together, so I guess there 268 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 2: was some of that bonding going on even then. 269 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: What was Dad's reaction when he found out he was 270 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 1: having three girls? 271 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 2: Oh, He was so excited. He was so delighted and 272 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 2: just we were both of us were just absolutely thrilled 273 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 2: that you were healthy. 274 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: Was he a little bit disappointed he didn't have a boy? 275 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 2: I don't think so. I think he's quite happy to 276 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 2: have three girls look after him in his old age. 277 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: Lady cigarettes, well, because we were still in hospital and 278 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: you had to go home, was that really tough to 279 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:53,559 Speaker 1: leave us? 280 00:12:53,880 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 2: Really tough? That was really really tough because my sister 281 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 2: law had just had a baby and with my brother 282 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 2: and they just had one baby and taken her home, 283 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 2: and I had had you guys, and had to leave 284 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 2: him behind. It was really hard. 285 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: Did you feel like you'd won that competition they'd had one. 286 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 2: Winning? Yes? I did. 287 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,839 Speaker 1: And when we were finally home, what is the reality 288 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 1: of living with three newborn babies? 289 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 3: Do you get any sleep at all? 290 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 2: Can I just go back one step, because before you 291 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 2: came home, I was in there twice a day feeding you, 292 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 2: and that was really really hard because you'd have to 293 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 2: get up rest, feed you, to get the pump out 294 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 2: and pump all the milk out, bring it in, feed you, 295 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 2: then go home and rest because it's extremely tiring, and 296 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 2: then go back in another time to go and see you. 297 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 2: So in a way, having your home is easier because 298 00:13:55,120 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 2: you were there, but because I hadn't had an overnighte 299 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 2: with you. The Queen Victoria Hospital where we were born, 300 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 2: set up me to have a couple of nights with 301 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 2: the staff allegedly helping me, so that I knew what 302 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 2: it was like to feed overnight. Well, I don't think 303 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 2: the nurses got the memo from the doctor saying you 304 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 2: are supposed to help this woman in the middle of 305 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 2: the night when her three babies are crying. They got 306 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 2: the memos incorrect. They thought that they weren't supposed to 307 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 2: help me. So when doctor haslum what was a wonderful 308 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 2: man that was looking after me, came in the next 309 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 2: day to see how I was. I think I just 310 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 2: burst into tears and looked like I'd had about two 311 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 2: hours sleep, and he went bunch at the staff and said, 312 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 2: why weren't you helping her? So the next night was 313 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 2: fabulous because I had all these people bring these babies 314 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 2: in and were helping me. But then when I went home, 315 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 2: it was really hard. 316 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: Did you feel like a bit of a cow or 317 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: like you know, with your udders out or like a 318 00:14:57,760 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: cat with a. 319 00:14:58,400 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 3: Litter of babies. 320 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 2: Absolutely, I did twin feeding, which was wonder bars. You 321 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 2: should say not and anyone buy it. 322 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 3: Okay, I think this is too much detail. 323 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: Well, when you did finally get home, did you have 324 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: any additional help from a nurse or was there anything 325 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: in place that you got because you had three babies? 326 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: Any extra help? 327 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 2: Actually, sadly no, and I hope things have changed for 328 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 2: the new mums that are having multiples that they do 329 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 2: get some help from the government. I think we did 330 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 2: initially get a little bit of financial help, but I 331 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 2: think it was for six years. We got a tiny 332 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 2: little bit of money which helped pay for formula, but no, 333 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 2: I had my mum and dad would help which was 334 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 2: amazing his parents but your dad's parents would help a 335 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 2: little bit. And the CAFs group in Komlight Gardens, I 336 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 2: have to say shout out to all you girls used 337 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 2: to bring me a meal once a week, come and 338 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 2: help with meals and sorry help was feeding it was. 339 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 2: They were incredible people I didn't actually know. 340 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: And talking of litters, that's just Bentley crying at the door. 341 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: If anyone our cast I feel like one thing that 342 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: I would be scared about if I had twins or triplets, 343 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: is mixing them up? Was there like a technique that 344 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: you had to ensure that the same, you know, the 345 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: right baby was the right baby. 346 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 2: Well, this was in the day as a capsules, so 347 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 2: all your capsules had the name on it. You also 348 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 2: came home with a band around your foot to identify 349 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 2: just in case we got mixed up. But you actually 350 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 2: did look different. 351 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: Imagine if they mixed us up in the hospital. Well, 352 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: I feel like because you were the smallest, they probably 353 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: would have been able to at least tell you it 354 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: wouldn't really matter because it'd only be a few days. 355 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 3: Do you remember you can't. 356 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: I know a couple of the thirty six's players have 357 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: come up and said to me, I bet that you 358 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: guys got mixed up and you were actually amy, And I. 359 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 3: Wonder, that's just scary to think about. So you mentioned 360 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 3: that we did look quite different. 361 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: Did you make a conscious effort not to dressed us 362 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: the same and so we'd all have our own identity, 363 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 1: Because I know a lot of people fall into the 364 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 1: trap of, I don't know, dressing twins and triplets the same. 365 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 2: Now I made a conscious decision not to dress you 366 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 2: the same. Occasionally people would give item of clothing that 367 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 2: was the same, so you would wear it mainly at home. 368 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 2: But I just did not like taking you out in 369 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 2: the same outfit because it drew even more attention to you. 370 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 1: Well, that's what I was going to ask. What is 371 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,360 Speaker 1: it like going out in public with three babies? 372 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 2: Well, I remember one time we were down at Gulwa 373 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 2: and we had the twins stroller that your dad was 374 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:40,360 Speaker 2: pushing and I had the single stroller and we were 375 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 2: getting stopped all the time. It was just incredible. So 376 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 2: your father wanted to get a copy of some answers 377 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 2: to questions that we were asked all the time. Were 378 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 2: you IVF? How do you cope? All these sorts of questions. 379 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 2: He was going to put it on a pamphlet, just 380 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 2: hand it out because he was seller answering all. 381 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 1: These questions because dad loves talking to me talking to 382 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 1: people one personal questions as well. 383 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 2: Oh. Absolutely, you not believe what people ask you, and 384 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 2: it's quite confronting. 385 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: What's the weirdest question someone has asked? 386 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 2: I'll probably say were the children IVF? Because you weren't 387 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 2: you were naturally conceived. But really that's no one's business 388 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 2: whether you were you were IRVF or naturally conceived. 389 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 1: And I suppose you touched on it before about saying 390 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 1: that you didn't like to dress us the same because 391 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: you wanted us to be individuals on that same sorry, 392 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 1: on that same sort of philosophy. Is that why you 393 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: didn't like people calling us the triplets as well? 394 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 2: Yes, because that meant that you would like one entity. 395 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 2: And I wanted people to know you were three different children. 396 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 2: Just because you were born on the same day from 397 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 2: the same mother, you actually had three different personalities, and 398 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 2: I just wanted to encourage that. 399 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 1: On our first birthday, we did make the front page 400 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: of the paper, just a humble brain. I happened to 401 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 1: be snapping Amy's hat, your hat, one of their hats, and. 402 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 3: Everyone was except me. 403 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: Now when you say it was you know those party 404 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 1: that has the sort of rubber Now, Mum, Mum was 405 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:18,199 Speaker 1: famously quoted as saying, Kate is bossy, and then I 406 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: think it was Amy is placid, and what was Sophie 407 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: was thoughtful? 408 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 2: I had kind hearted or something like that. 409 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 1: Now you have the chance to rectify your descriptions, do 410 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: you let me just tell you about that day. 411 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 3: That's description sound pretty bang on. 412 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 2: It wasn't bad because it was a very off the 413 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 2: cuff comment. We had organized with the advertiser to come 414 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 2: and take a photograph, and I got my mum down 415 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 2: to help me, so we'd fed you early, we had 416 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 2: changed nappies, you're in your best dress ready for and 417 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 2: they were so late working. 418 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 1: With journalists, now that's no surprise, and all but three 419 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: different ways in the article that was not good editing. 420 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 2: So by the time they had arrived, you were over it. 421 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 2: And so that's hints the photo on the paper review 422 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 2: its rolling around pulling each other's hats. 423 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: I reckon though if it had just been a stock 424 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: standard photo, it wouldn't have made the front page. 425 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 3: Like I feel like the fact that. 426 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 1: We were like upset and ripping at each other that 427 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: made it a iconic photo. It also said the headline, 428 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: it's our party and we'll cry if we want to, 429 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 1: So I feel like it did make a good front page. 430 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 3: But back to your sorry, I'm sorry. 431 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,199 Speaker 2: I was just going to say. As the journalist was 432 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 2: leaving walking up the hall, that's when she asked me 433 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 2: what you were like. So I was really put on 434 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 2: the spot. So it was very spontaneous. 435 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 3: You're on the spot again. Would you stand by those 436 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 3: descriptions or have they changed? How would you do? 437 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 2: You're you're all kind, harded, and you're all placid. 438 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: What would you say for someone who is asking you 439 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 1: how to tell us apart? What are the key distinctions? 440 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 2: I'd say Kate's very organized, which is a very good trait. 441 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 3: Is that code for bossing? 442 00:20:55,200 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 2: No, I'd say that Amy's very lay back and very 443 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 2: laid back and casual. And Sophie's very kind hearted and 444 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 2: always sees the good in people. 445 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 3: Really, she does her descriptions alone, they were quite bang on. 446 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 2: No. No, you're all and you're all very kind, You're 447 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 2: all very thoughtful, you're all very loving. I think you're 448 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 2: being triplets. You're very thoughtful and consider of other people's feelings. 449 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 2: I think that's an amazing track to have. And you 450 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 2: always share and all those wonderful things that you wouldn't 451 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 2: get if you were a single child as much. 452 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: What was your favorite age to experience your children? Obviously 453 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 1: we went through the same milestones together, so was there 454 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,199 Speaker 1: a favorite time in I'm going to guess thirteen to 455 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 1: eighteen wasn't, but. 456 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 2: Correct, I look all the stages were amazing. I love 457 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 2: the little toddlers stage when you know I was just 458 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:52,360 Speaker 2: the number one. 459 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 3: And I feel like you're still number one now. 460 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:59,679 Speaker 2: Well, no thanks, but you know, when you know, if 461 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 2: you all over, you only want your mom. That was 462 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 2: you know, that was the same now you have not 463 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 2: changed at all. And school was brilliant too. I love 464 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 2: watching you grow and become, you know, strong and resilient. 465 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 2: High school was interesting. We'll move on. 466 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 3: That's fast forward through. That's good. 467 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 2: You know you were pretty good at Uni. That was 468 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 2: That was an okay stage, except you slept a lot 469 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 2: in when you're in UNI. And yeah, we used to 470 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 2: have very weird hours at university, but then. 471 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 3: We that you were proud of us. 472 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 2: Still I'm still proud of you, and I think also 473 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 2: when you moved out, it was another another stage where 474 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 2: you became self sufficient and were able to do a 475 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 2: whole lot of things for yourself that you couldn't do 476 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 2: when you were at home. 477 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 1: So I just just to explain, Mom is the best mum, 478 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: and she would. I think she thought the way to 479 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 1: help us when we'd moved out was to bring big 480 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: packages of like forty eight toilet rolls and Ajax and 481 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: helpful cleaning products because let's face it, forty eight rolls 482 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: of toilet peaper didn't last long in our house. 483 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 2: And also the Agui now is amazing too. I really 484 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 2: like it because we always get together on a Wednesday 485 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 2: night for family dinner and you bring your boyfriends and 486 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 2: it's really really lovely. It's lovely that you still want 487 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 2: to come and see your dear old mum and dad. 488 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 3: It's the highlight of my week growing it so yeah, 489 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 3: it is. 490 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: I actually say every week I'm like, is it sad 491 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 1: that I'm looking. 492 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 3: Forward to family dinner? 493 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: But growing up you had three brothers and you always 494 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 1: wanted a sister. Do you feel like you got your 495 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: sisters with the three of us. 496 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 2: I do. I do. I think we're all pretty close, 497 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 2: and I think that's I'm really really lucky that we 498 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 2: all get on really really well. 499 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,199 Speaker 1: Just to put the end of perspective. On Saturday, we 500 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 1: went shopping with Mum and she was like, oh my god, 501 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 1: we have so much to talk about. So we had 502 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: to any of the things to go straight to excoosey 503 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: and catch up and it was literally like I got 504 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 1: a headache after it because it was too many people talking, 505 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: it's hard to get a word in. Yes, and not 506 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: to get sappy, but what is your favorite part of 507 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:05,880 Speaker 1: being a mum? 508 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 2: About three years ago, we went through a really tough 509 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 2: time as a family, and as your podcast viewers might know, 510 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 2: if they listened to episode one, they might understand what 511 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 2: what actually happened. 512 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 1: But and if you'd like to see mom style on 513 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,360 Speaker 1: the seven thirty, look that up. 514 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 2: That was a really, really tough time and probably that 515 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 2: would have been about the worst time we've ever had 516 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 2: other than my dad passing away last year was awful. 517 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 2: But three years ago we went through that terrible time 518 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 2: and I think as a family we actually grew stronger and. 519 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: And we had that great trip to Sydney, didn't we, Mum, 520 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,679 Speaker 1: You and we had a great trip. This is when 521 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: things were sort of ticking over, weren't they. And we 522 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: remember we walked through the hotel. This is when we 523 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 1: went to sort of settle things legally. And walking out 524 00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: of our hotel was Liz Hayes and I remember you 525 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: were so excited, Mumm. 526 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 2: You're like, it's a sign, It's a sign. I know, 527 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 2: I thought we are winners. 528 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 1: I had to I had to stop you from asking 529 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:13,199 Speaker 1: for her autograph, because one thing that I think is 530 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 1: so special about Mum is she always takes such an 531 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 1: interest in everything we do. So when we were in 532 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 1: the journalism world, you knew everything like you knew all 533 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 1: the Oh that's the slug, that's the super I know 534 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: who this person is. And you we would sit around 535 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: and critique the news and despite you not being a 536 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,360 Speaker 1: qualified journalist, you did a bloody good job. And I've 537 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: always told our favorite news director Terry Plaine, that my 538 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: mum would have been the best journalist ever. 539 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 2: Oh well, thank you, And I still critique them. I 540 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 2: only watch certain stations, so I only critique certain ones. 541 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 2: But yeah, I guess it was. It was a fun 542 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 2: time when you girls were working on the news and 543 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 2: it wasn't really sad into that, and you know, we've 544 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 2: moved on and bigger and better things. 545 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: So one of my favorite memories of Mum was we 546 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: always had to drag family members to be in stories 547 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: if you ever had a time like a tight deadline. 548 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: And I remember Mum and Kate were in a story 549 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: where Amanda Blair, who South Australian personality, she's amazing, but 550 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 1: she did an op shop story and Kate and Mum 551 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: had to model op shop close bullshit and that was hilarious. 552 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 1: So thank you for not for us, well for those watching. 553 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 2: Amanda wanted me to buy this top and I'm looking 554 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 2: at it thinking no, sorry for me. 555 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 3: Can I ask Mum? 556 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 1: How do you go at hearing things three times and 557 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 1: pretending that it's new information because poor Mum constantly gets 558 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: called And Top's. 559 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 2: All right because sometimes I get little snippers. I can 560 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 2: put it all together and go, ah, I understand now. 561 00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 1: I think the thing about you as well is that 562 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: you were so fair, Like you just go out of 563 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 1: your way to be fair with everyone. Even on our 564 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 1: birthday you will write the exact same message on every 565 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: single wall. 566 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 3: What was that like? 567 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,919 Speaker 1: What made you think yeah, Facebook, well, what made you 568 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: think about. 569 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 3: That or what enticed you to be that be like that? 570 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 2: I don't know. I think it comes from my upbringing. 571 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 2: My parents were really really fair and even with my 572 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,199 Speaker 2: three brothers and I and also I remember talking to 573 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 2: someone at the Multiple Birth Association. One thing that stuck 574 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,919 Speaker 2: with me was she said that the kids had to 575 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 2: take along a photograph to school for the VIP of 576 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 2: the week, and this particular person had no individual shots 577 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 2: of so they had triplets and they had them all together. 578 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,120 Speaker 2: So I always made sure, particularly birthdays, that we take 579 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 2: separate photos. Now still do that so that you actually 580 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 2: have a photo of yourself. And I think that's really 581 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 2: important to Even though you are triplets and it's a 582 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 2: wonderful thing and you get on really well, you have 583 00:27:58,200 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 2: to be individuals as well. 584 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 1: So obviously you've said a lot of lovely things about 585 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 1: having triplets, But what would your reaction be if one 586 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 1: of us fell pregnant with triplets? 587 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 2: Would be amazing? Yeah, it really would. It would be amazing. 588 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,159 Speaker 3: It would be a bit of karma. 589 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, I just I know no different. 590 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 2: I don't know what it's like to have a single child. 591 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 2: I just know that everything comes in three. I'd be delighted. 592 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 3: Is there a chance it is a hereditary or. 593 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:29,199 Speaker 2: I don't think so. 594 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 1: No, because it's one and a million chants. 595 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 2: Isn't it something like that? I don't. I don't know. 596 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 2: Just one split into two and then one into two 597 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 2: again is what I'm led to believe. 598 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: And final question, who's your favorite daughter? 599 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 3: Lull them into a false. 600 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 2: I do not have favorites. You know that I'm very fair. 601 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 2: I love you all equally. 602 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: And just to wrap it up, if what piece of 603 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: advice would you give to a mum who possibly listening, 604 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: who's having twins or triplets. 605 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 2: So get a lot of sleep beforehand, because you don't 606 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 2: get a lot after. I just think you need to 607 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 2: be organized and go with the flow and if something 608 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,719 Speaker 2: doesn't work, well, that's okay. 609 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: Mom hasn't had sleep for three years, she said, in 610 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: our teenage years. 611 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 3: No, that's right. 612 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 2: And I remember going after I had you girls, I 613 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 2: would give bag up the clothes that I didn't need 614 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 2: more and I passed them on to this other lady 615 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 2: that had I think she had a son first and 616 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,719 Speaker 2: then triplets, and I went to her house. She was amazing. 617 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 2: She had everything labeled, the single drawer and the top 618 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 2: drawer and whatever. And because she got a lot of 619 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 2: help from other people, so it was just easier for 620 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 2: them to know where to get things from. So you 621 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 2: just have to be organized and know that not everything 622 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 2: is going to work out, and if you've got a 623 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 2: lot of love, they'll they'll turn out. Okay. 624 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: Well, thank you mom for joining us. It was I mean, 625 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, hopefully other people took something from us. 626 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 1: It was just nice for us to I suppose hear 627 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: about some stories we haven't really heard about. 628 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 3: If you guys did enjoy listening to. 629 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: The podcast, we'd love if you could leave us a review, 630 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: hopefully a positive one. And if you do want to 631 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: join in the conversation, you can join us on Instagram 632 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 1: and Facebook at Outspoken Underscore The Underscore Podcast. We also 633 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 1: love it if you could share an Insta story and 634 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: tag us on. 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