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Speaker 1: Well, this week is the Festival of Claire's, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: Mister Clare's is leaving us at the end of the week,

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Speaker 1: leaving breakfast radio, not leaving work, you don't get off

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Speaker 1: that the rights, but leaving getting up at a ridiculous

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Speaker 1: time of the day. But we're kicking off our trip

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Speaker 1: down memory lane with where it all started. We are

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Speaker 1: so excited. Denise Sander is with us. Good morning now

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Speaker 1: you were Missus King to CLAIZI when you were his

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Speaker 1: media studies teacher.

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Speaker 2: That's craz Good morning, Missus King did that? This is freaky?

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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 3: Good morning Dean.

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Speaker 2: How are you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm good, I'm good. Thanks. So, yeah, Dean was

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Speaker 3: in my very first media class. I just started media

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Speaker 3: up at Greenwood Senior High School. Yeah yeah, and we

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Speaker 3: started with your eleven and twelve, so only new Dean

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Speaker 3: for two years.

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Speaker 1: Yes, did you get a feeling straight away that this

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Speaker 1: kid might have have the good Well.

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Speaker 3: Let me tell you no, I mean I've been I

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Speaker 3: was an education for over forty years. So he was

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Speaker 3: one of my first students. And it's actually Dean and

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Speaker 3: another student from Greenwood, Lindsay Flair, who went into animation

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Speaker 3: and was involved in all the animated films that have

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Speaker 3: come out that I remember, you, I really remember, because

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Speaker 3: Dean really stood out with his really deep voice. Yes,

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Speaker 3: and we did sixteen year old. He had a really

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Speaker 3: deep voice. And he was tall and a lanky guy

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Speaker 3: and fairly quiet. But in all the productions he really

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Speaker 3: shone because he had hit this great voice and also

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Speaker 3: this sort of I guess personality, and he would do

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Speaker 3: all the radio productions and help the other students, you know,

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Speaker 3: because he was just seemed to have a natural ability.

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Speaker 1: Well, all of us that know Clerzy and have I've

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Speaker 1: known him for years now as well, we all know

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Speaker 1: him to be a really nice guy. Was he a

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Speaker 1: nice teenager?

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Speaker 3: I was thinking about this and I thought I wanted

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Speaker 3: to say he was really naughty and got in trouble

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Speaker 3: all the time. It was all wrap back nice. It

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Speaker 3: was actually pretty good. He was really good. And I

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Speaker 3: remember saying to him, you know, you should really, you know,

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Speaker 3: think of doing something with you, you know. And I

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Speaker 3: know he went off and did a cadet ship in

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Speaker 3: the country, so I heard that. I was really pleased.

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Speaker 3: And then years went by and then he popped up

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Speaker 3: on another station, which I listened to and then when

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Speaker 3: he moved across to Nunty six fim, I listened to

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Speaker 3: him that again.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know those early years were I mean

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Speaker 2: I did say on the radio yesterday that Mark Haddy

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Speaker 2: and I best mates. We went, let's do media. That

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Speaker 2: looks like a cutchy cruisy subject so crazy, and then

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Speaker 2: sort of fell in love with it. But I don't know.

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Speaker 2: You probably don't remember this, but my first thoughts was

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Speaker 2: we're doing TV units and then radio stuff. I wanted

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Speaker 2: to be the next Regard and she glad I didn't

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Speaker 2: wait for him to quit.

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Speaker 3: You could have been both. You could have been radio

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Speaker 3: or TV. I saw it like this, but you did

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Speaker 3: have the looks back then.

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Speaker 1: I mean, no, not that you don't know.

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Speaker 3: You're on It must be ancient.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember the first time that you heard him

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Speaker 1: on air? Was it was it at six pm or

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Speaker 1: a station like.

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Speaker 3: Six pm?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah four point five? And then yeah

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Speaker 3: yeah yeah I did, I did, Yeah, I remember thinking

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Speaker 3: and then it was clear it's clezy. And because he

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Speaker 3: was called clericy at school as well, his mates called

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Speaker 3: c What about the Eagle, because that was.

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Speaker 1: That was where Clary and I met the Eagle, which

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Speaker 1: didn't you know, take off because I didn't get the FM.

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Speaker 2: You met my first radio crush. That was nineteen eighty nine.

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Speaker 2: Because I've been to Canberra and I've been in the

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Speaker 2: Bush and then Camber and Adela six thirty six years. Yeah. Absolutely,

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Speaker 2: I've been stalking Lisa to radio stations ever since because

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Speaker 2: when she went to the.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: So media is when did you When did you stop

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Speaker 1: teaching media or are you still teaching?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 1: No, no, I retired three years ago, okay from media.

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Speaker 1: No no.

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Speaker 3: I was a principal when I retired, So I was

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Speaker 3: quite quite ambitious, like Dean, Yeah, top of radio. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 3: I loved working in education, but you know, I talked

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Speaker 3: media for about fifteen years and then I was got

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Speaker 3: involved in ahead of English Deputy Prince Ibrillian and then

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Speaker 3: retired three years ago.

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Speaker 1: Because media has certainly seen some changes over the years

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Speaker 1: from from what you would have been teaching.

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Speaker 3: Back here, and as Dean said, it was mid eighties.

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Speaker 3: It was seen as a light subject back then, and

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Speaker 3: of course we were always trying to get to get more,

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Speaker 3: you know, sort of seeing there's more serious subjects. It

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Speaker 3: was really important subjects English and it did eventually get

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Speaker 3: into Atar, but that took a very very long time. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but we had so much fun. I had Media Camp

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Speaker 3: and I don't think you went on it, because I

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Speaker 3: think in my first group.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm so glad.

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Speaker 3: I was really wad that you guys were going to

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Speaker 3: mention things because back then it was quite different.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and you were on camp.

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Speaker 3: Kids had to be very resilient.

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Speaker 2: It was his time on media camp when I first

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Speaker 2: when I first got a job, I was seventeen, right,

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Speaker 2: so I just fresh come out of real class and

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Speaker 2: I got to Meriden, and I remember, I remember my

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Speaker 2: first night in Meriden. I had no idea what I

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Speaker 2: was doing, and I think I cried like a baby,

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Speaker 2: to be honest, because I left home as well. But

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Speaker 2: I was playing record, playing Vinyl records and this is

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Speaker 2: how angel I am, and everything off real to real

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Speaker 2: machines and stuff like that. But soon fell in love

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Speaker 2: with it.

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Speaker 3: It's good.

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Speaker 1: So I guess it must give you great joy to

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Speaker 1: you know, to come this full circle to be here today.

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Speaker 2: It's your fault.

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Speaker 3: It was ready for tuitors meeting one of your work

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Speaker 3: colleagues and yeah, and I said, oh, you must stay

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Speaker 3: high to him. For me, I've always listened thought about

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Speaker 3: how you know, I thought about him and I heard

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Speaker 3: him and thought, how great is this? He got into this,

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Speaker 3: into intermedia, into radio, and it's just like, oh maybe

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Speaker 3: the medium.

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Speaker 2: That was freaky that our producer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, well, Denise, we blame you.

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Speaker 2: You're responsible.

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Speaker 1: You kicked it all off. You gave us closy, so

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Speaker 1: we thank you for that. It's been lovely to me.

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Speaker 3: What it's going to be up to now is he

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Speaker 3: I know I'm not retiring, you're not ready to not.

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Speaker 2: A sixty, but it is funny that people a bit

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Speaker 2: suspicious I'm going, well, not because of what happens people

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Speaker 2: do Reitarre at sixty.

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Speaker 3: Yeah I didn't, but yeah I.

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Speaker 2: Don't think I'll sit around and do nothing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, that's good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah it's good. And I'll still be catching up with

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Speaker 2: this one for coffee.

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Speaker 3: I can recommend it wonderful