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Speaker 1: Hearty six CFM with Claresy and Lisa John Farnham. Finding

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Speaker 1: the Voice is in cinemas today. We've seen this, Lisa,

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Speaker 1: and this was This really had a huge impact on us,

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Speaker 1: didness certainly? It is incredibly put together. And the late

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Speaker 1: great Glenn Wheatley was right by John's side, not just

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Speaker 1: for Whispering Jack, but for so much of his life

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Speaker 1: and so much of his wonderful career. And by Glen's

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Speaker 1: side of course, and John's Gaina Wheatley, gooday, and welcome,

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Speaker 1: good morning, good.

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Speaker 2: Morning to you. I wasn't there just as long as

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Speaker 2: John was there. I came in there just a little

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Speaker 2: bit later, long enough, so important.

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Speaker 3: As Claeresy said, we went along to this preview and

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Speaker 3: I thought, well this should be good. Little did I

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Speaker 3: know I was gonna laugh and cry and everything in

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Speaker 3: between and go home and text everyone I knew to

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Speaker 3: go and see it as soon as they could.

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Speaker 2: It is beautiful. It is beautiful.

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Speaker 4: Poppy Sockle, the director, She's done an extraordinary job pulling

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Speaker 4: some pieces and some stories together that I don't think

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Speaker 4: have been part of our collective history before. No. I

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Speaker 4: think you think you know the farm story, but I

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Speaker 4: think she's just found other elements to make it more interesting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly how we felt so.

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Speaker 1: Right, and she personalized so much of it. But even

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Speaker 1: following John's career, the things that we all learned along

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Speaker 1: the way, and you know, the voice of stuff came later.

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Speaker 1: Early on, he was a teen pop idol, wasn't he John?

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Speaker 1: And the career developed from there.

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Speaker 4: It was And I think, you know, he was discovered

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Speaker 4: very quickly sad Sadie, and it was basically.

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Speaker 2: An overnight success.

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Speaker 4: And I think that was a lot of his problem

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Speaker 4: in feeling like he hadn't earnt his stripes, hadn't paid

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Speaker 4: his musical jews per sae.

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Speaker 2: And it took him a long time.

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Speaker 4: You know, he was thirty eight by the time he

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Speaker 4: did Whispering Jack.

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Speaker 2: I think he felt it took.

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Speaker 4: That long, for twenty years to actually believe that he

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Speaker 4: deserved the success that was then coming his life.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot of recdorship, certainly is from a plumber

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Speaker 1: to that in those early days.

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Speaker 3: Just how much do you think he rude the day

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Speaker 3: he recorded Sadie the Lady he came to love it.

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Speaker 2: Do you know what he looks at Sadie now? With

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Speaker 2: such fondness.

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Speaker 4: There was a period of time where he did not

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Speaker 4: want to sing it, or play or hear it, got

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Speaker 4: anything else, And then came an acceptance and that he

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Speaker 4: says to this day.

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Speaker 2: If it wasn't for Sadie, he wouldn't be.

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Speaker 4: Where he is right, So he has great respect for it,

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Speaker 4: as he should.

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Speaker 2: It just shit out song, but he.

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Speaker 4: Did, he say it, and now he sings it in

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Speaker 4: fiction and that audiences still go nuts for it.

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Speaker 2: And he used to think they're all sending him up, but.

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Speaker 4: Now I think people have gone on the journey and

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Speaker 4: actually do want to hear him sing it.

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Speaker 3: No, it's sending him up.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The White Poppies put this together, and you understand completely

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Speaker 1: the other dimension that comes into this, and hearing Olivia's

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Speaker 1: voice and so much content, so much of Glenn in

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Speaker 1: there as well, and then John's health later on. It's

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Speaker 1: a project like none other. The way that unfolded, how

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Speaker 1: it was not.

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Speaker 2: The original plan obviously.

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Speaker 4: For everyone, was not meant to be everybody's final interview, let.

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Speaker 2: Me tell you, But it was just the way it happened.

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Speaker 2: And I'm so glad Glenn.

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Speaker 4: Actually started this project and had the foresight to have

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Speaker 4: his interviews done early because I think he needed to

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Speaker 2: Get the project underway.

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Speaker 4: Yes, and then of course you didn't know there would

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Speaker 4: be Alivia's last interview. Although her voice was fairly feeble,

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Speaker 4: but she was so positive even at that particular time

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Speaker 5: And you know, she was in what she said, he

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Speaker 5: was my favorite singer, and she sung with everybody and

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Speaker 5: she still had to tell everybody that John is her

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Speaker 5: favorite singer.

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Speaker 2: That was That was great.

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Speaker 4: And then of course we went on another tangent, you know,

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Speaker 2: So it's got it all in fact. You go, you know,

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Speaker 2: do you want to get interviewed? No, thanks, I'd rather

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Speaker 2: not be hear the interviewing list is a bit shorter.

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Speaker 4: The way.

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Speaker 3: There are times when you thought John's too nice for

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Speaker 2: He is. He is too nice for his business.

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Speaker 4: He's authentic, he's nice, he cares about his fans. He

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Speaker 4: is a genuine, great human being.

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Speaker 2: He is too nice because you know, most of a

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Speaker 2: lot of artists have a lot of ego.

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Speaker 4: He seems to leave his somewhere packed away very nicely.

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Speaker 4: He's giving, and he's authentic.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I go to what about. I mean, we know

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Speaker 1: about John's telling. He understands he's got this wonderful voice

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Speaker 1: and the incredible talent and incredible career. But that moment,

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Speaker 1: you know, those moments, all those days or that day

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Speaker 1: and this incredible fear that he obviously went through. It

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Speaker 1: going into. It seems quite strange for someone so talented,

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Speaker 1: But it was all writing on that album.

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Speaker 4: Wasn't that This was his moment and he was absolutely terrified,

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Speaker 4: and we weren't even playing it to press. We were

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Speaker 4: playing it to you friends and family, and he still

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Speaker 4: just could barely get into that car. And thank goodness

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Speaker 4: Sedule for I don't know how she did it, probably

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Speaker 2: Into the car and off they went in and then

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Speaker 4: And it was so well received within this group that

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Speaker 4: I think he felt better. I think there was just

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Speaker 4: there was just so much fighting on it. There was

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Speaker 4: so much stress and a fear of letting Glen dawn.

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Speaker 2: There looked so.

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Speaker 4: Many elements and this was basically his last roll of

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Speaker 4: the dice and he was to go back to the plumbing.

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Speaker 2: Still he did still fix it out. We go to

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Speaker 2: motels or hotels or whatever. Water precious, crappy, I'll fix it,

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Speaker 2: and he goes along stealing things. He's got the skills.

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Speaker 2: He's still very handy.

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Speaker 3: There is an awful lot to be said for John's

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Speaker 3: relationship with Glenn Wheatley. It strikes me as one of

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Speaker 3: the most true cases of actual loyalty and respect for

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Speaker 3: each other in the industry. And that's got to have

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Speaker 3: gone a long way to the success that they had together.

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Speaker 2: I think.

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Speaker 4: The stories of love affair and about Glenn John not

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Speaker 4: our skirls we have.

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Speaker 2: They got a looking.

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Speaker 4: Children that they could they could communicate and speed and

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Speaker 4: for a couple of deaf guys, they can.

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Speaker 2: Actually view each other.

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Speaker 4: Jill and I could talk at nausea and you know, no,

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Speaker 4: you never told me that. But Glenn and John they

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Speaker 4: spoke on another level.

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Speaker 2: It was really a lot of privilege. It was so.

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Speaker 4: Incredible to watch to humans and me, you know, just

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Speaker 4: have a connection and an understanding and a love for

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Speaker 2: That was really special.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, John talks a lot, and the story's been out

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Speaker 1: there a lot about the risks that you and Glenn

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Speaker 1: took with your finances to help John get to this project.

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Speaker 1: Was there a certain moment when you all realized it

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Speaker 1: had just clicked? There was when it went to number one,

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Speaker 1: when it started getting airplay, and John, you know, in

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Speaker 1: his humble way, probably find a very personal way to

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Speaker 1: thank you.

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Speaker 4: John's been thanking us forever since, you know, through loyalty

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Speaker 4: and my goodness, He's been.

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Speaker 2: A steadfast friend and wonderful.

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Speaker 4: I think we were just when we got on the

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Speaker 4: role of the success when we realized it was resonating

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Speaker 4: with everybody, When we realized that it was when it

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Speaker 4: play on the air, let alone go to number one.

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Speaker 4: When we got to that, it was a whole new

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Speaker 2: That was the payment. Luckily it was on Weekly Records, so.

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Speaker 4: That certainly we've been hard coping and cheering from the

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Speaker 2: Record.

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Speaker 4: So it was just it was just a win win

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Speaker 4: all around, and a lot of joy.

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Speaker 2: It's continued, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: The second album, Major Reason, amazing creation, but it wasn't

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Speaker 4: number one hit one but we're not talking about just

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Speaker 4: saw this one.

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Speaker 2: The gift we had was, of course, you know you're

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Speaker 4: That's that's the gift that we still have today, this

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Speaker 4: extraordinary song that is going to be elevated to another stratosphere.

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Speaker 3: I have to say that you go away from the

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Speaker 3: movie as if we weren't already invested enough in how

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Speaker 3: John's doing. You leave the movie thinking please be okay, yeah,

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Speaker 3: please yeah, please be okay.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, please be okay. There's nothing else to say. It

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Speaker 2: really is there. That's it.

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Speaker 4: Just please I can't.

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Speaker 2: Lose both of them. I've seen it before.

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Speaker 3: No, no, well gain well, thank you so much for

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Speaker 3: joining us.

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Speaker 4: Absolute pleasure, and I'm glad you enjoyed it and hope

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Speaker 4: everyone goes to see it too,