Speaker 1: Ah, Matt, before we do get started. So I just
Speaker 1: wanted to thank you some travel advice. What did I
Speaker 1: tell you? It was last year on the way to Vegas.
Speaker 1: I had a conundrum, I had a thought, and then
Speaker 1: you put my mind at ease and I forgot about
Speaker 1: it until I got back on the plane this year.
Speaker 1: What did I do? Well? Why don't you start the episode?
Speaker 2: Okay, welcome back to Two Doing Dads. I am Maddie
Speaker 2: Jays and this is a podcast all about parenting.
Speaker 1: It is the good, it is the bad and the relatable.
Speaker 1: And if you come for advice.
Speaker 2: Sorry oops, wrong podcast, not us, see ya.
Speaker 1: No, actually stay advice as if you come for advice,
Speaker 1: not us. Anyway, what was the advice advice we do have? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Last year we went to Vegas together and I quite
Speaker 1: I don't like flying because I'm uncomfortable in a particular way,
Speaker 1: so back or just anxiety?
Speaker 2: What's thorting my farts in wit if you're on a
Speaker 2: plane far away?
Speaker 1: Thank you? I took that advice this time traveled so
Speaker 1: comfortably where they smelly? Oh yeah, I was like, I
Speaker 1: think one of them woke me up. I got on
Speaker 1: the plane next to these two lovely Americans, and I
Speaker 1: was like, get ready, and I just let I was
Speaker 1: honestly like forty our flight, A breeze, A breeze out
Speaker 1: of my buttole.
Speaker 2: Apparently, apparently, I don't know if there's any science behind this,
Speaker 2: but you know when you have a bottle of water
Speaker 2: and you put the lid on when you're on the
Speaker 2: tarmac and you're in the air, Yeah, and the bottles
Speaker 2: are like compressed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you got to do that.
Speaker 2: Apparently that's what because I wee a lot when I'm
Speaker 2: in the air.
Speaker 1: On a plane. Opposit, I don't barely we like, I did.
Speaker 2: One Wii on a fourteen hour flight, and you're not
Speaker 2: doing my scientific fact here any favors.
Speaker 1: Well, it could be different from you do you fart
Speaker 1: more on a plane? Oh yeah, there you go. I
Speaker 1: think the human body knows when when you're not places
Speaker 1: you're not meant to farts. It's the cabin pressure. But
Speaker 1: like if I'm just a home and I'm in bed
Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, I got a Wii, and I
Speaker 1: was like, it's probably you know, I could do a
Speaker 1: fart here and keep people happy. I don't need a fart.
Speaker 1: But then I get back into bed. It's like I
Speaker 1: got a fart.
Speaker 2: That is the number one complaint that I get from Laura.
Speaker 1: I hop in a bed and she goes, why do
Speaker 1: you have to fight when you get into bed? I go,
Speaker 1: I can't help it. This is where I needed to fart.
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't help you know, when I need
Speaker 1: to fight, I need to fart. If that happens and
Speaker 1: I'm just in bed and I pulled the blankets up,
Speaker 1: I apologize, it was like you were just in the
Speaker 1: bathroom anyway. I just just very Yeah. I wanted to
Speaker 1: just thank you for that. You're well. You made the
Speaker 1: trip much more enjoyable. I was at one point I
Speaker 1: was like laying down because I had two best seats
Speaker 1: and there was people around me, and I just went
Speaker 1: It is awkward when it really does smell. The best
Speaker 1: time to do it is during meal time because the
Speaker 1: meal is usually quite pungent. Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 2: I have a bad poker face, and it is hard
Speaker 2: when you have to try and hide when you farted
Speaker 2: and people are like, you can see someone else going
Speaker 2: is that smells a bit, and you have to try
Speaker 2: and pretend like you know, yeah, you're confused as well.
Speaker 1: Going is that. I think everyone's like probably sitting there
Speaker 1: being like say anything anything. It is such a relief.
Speaker 1: It is such a relief.
Speaker 2: Hey, did you notice anything at the front of my
Speaker 2: house yesterday? By the way, when you were you're visiting,
Speaker 2: did you notice anything?
Speaker 1: I know you got a haircut, small, small haircut. I
Speaker 1: did something stupid. You didn't cut the dick plan off.
Speaker 1: No dick plans still there. I actually have that video
Speaker 1: still it's grown. Yeah, I have a grower.
Speaker 2: I have a yucker and it's grown a root that
Speaker 2: comes out the size of a penis.
Speaker 1: It looks like an uncircumcised peanist. Like it is uncanny.
Speaker 2: Remind me after this episode, I did a video where
Speaker 2: I'm edging. I think Laura goes edge the gardens and
Speaker 2: I'm like, sure, very good, and then I'm there jerking off.
Speaker 1: The oh that's good. Why have you not posted that?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I forgot. I forgot to say, remind me.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's the same over in the
Speaker 2: Northern Beaches for anyone outside of New South Wales, we
Speaker 2: or in Bondo, we get too allocated. Cancel cleanup pickups
Speaker 2: per calendar year.
Speaker 1: You've got to book them in. Though you got to
Speaker 1: book them in, you get too free. I love that
Speaker 1: when there's one person actually books one in and then
Speaker 1: everyone in the same streets just like must be a
Speaker 1: counsel cleaner and throw stuff out the front of their
Speaker 1: house and it gets picked up. That's a loophole. That's
Speaker 1: a council loophole. It didn't happen, unfortunately.
Speaker 2: But you know, anyone who's never had a council cleanup
Speaker 2: pick up collection, whether the fuck it's called, the way
Speaker 2: it works, the way it works, it is very complicated.
Speaker 2: How have they not had one of people just don't
Speaker 2: have junks like us.
Speaker 1: I feel like I was.
Speaker 2: I was very late to the council cleanup bandwagon.
Speaker 1: I love walking past the pile of council cleanup and
Speaker 1: pretending not to look, and then fighting the urge.
Speaker 2: Looks it was raining when I put out the stuff,
Speaker 2: so people didn't. I love watching people come and.
Speaker 1: Scale that, yeah we should do that, and just be like, get.
Speaker 2: But you got to put it out the night before,
Speaker 2: gets picked up in the morning. I forgot that it
Speaker 2: was out there. So when I got the kids in
Speaker 2: the car for daycare and school drop off, they were.
Speaker 1: Like what's this? And I was like, fuck, all this
Speaker 1: stuff in the front, all this stuff.
Speaker 2: I had this blackboard with magnets that that was out there.
Speaker 2: Their little camer little sofas that have a fold out.
Speaker 2: They get moldy as fuck, those things so moldy.
Speaker 1: They were out there. Lola's potty was out there as well,
Speaker 1: and she was like what do you throw this out for?
Speaker 1: There were a bunch of hoarders, my kids. I was like,
Speaker 1: it was a nightmare. Ash. I had to had to
Speaker 1: peel them off. You know we talk about people scavenging, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was like my kids. Yeah, they were like going
Speaker 1: through and throwing cushions everywhere, being like why are you
Speaker 1: throwing this bachelor out for? We can keep that? And
Speaker 1: I was like, far out. They don't understand the concept
Speaker 1: of like throwing things out unless it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: food scraps or whatever. Because I remember when we did
Speaker 1: we sort of piled a bunch of old toys up
Speaker 1: not to throw them out. We're going to give them
Speaker 1: to Goodwill because that was still fine, and we stupidly
Speaker 1: put them in a container and then one day we
Speaker 1: came home and the clear container was like sitting there
Speaker 1: ready to be taken and Oscar was like, what's that.
Speaker 1: He's like, that's my my Americ control cars in there
Speaker 1: like you hasn't used in like two years. And it
Speaker 1: was like I turned my back one second and he's
Speaker 1: in there and he's got it all out, and it's
Speaker 1: like for Fox, it's a nightmare. Council cleaner, but picked up,
Speaker 1: picked up in the afternoon, beautiful, Yeah, lovely. I feel
Speaker 1: I feel like the weight has been just lifted off
Speaker 1: my shoulders. I had a rug that bust to shot
Speaker 1: on like the worst diarrhea Nane. I gave him some
Speaker 1: brown rice no good for dogs.
Speaker 2: So that rug that used to be there under the
Speaker 2: coffee table that's been down the side of the house
Speaker 2: just covered in dog shit for like four months.
Speaker 1: Imatching the stench on that thing.
Speaker 2: Carrying that down the side of the house, moldy from
Speaker 2: the rain, remnants of dog diarrhea. Oh yeah, I'm just
Speaker 2: I'm a new man since having that council cleanup.
Speaker 1: It's better than therapy, is April loves and my going
Speaker 1: in treat yourself. My father in law does this thing
Speaker 1: where he drives around the streets looking for piles to
Speaker 1: throw stuff out him. So that stuff. People have already
Speaker 1: ordered one and he's got ship in the back of
Speaker 1: his car. He's like, that's good behaviors back at night.
Speaker 1: But I couldn't do that the amount of anxiety I
Speaker 1: have and I put in a garbage bin into someone
Speaker 1: else's like that that.
Speaker 2: Feels like you're breaking the law, feels like but he's
Speaker 2: drubbing around. Yeah, the car full of that's bold.
Speaker 1: That's a friend of mine owns a company called my Bins,
Speaker 1: which is like they move the bin from this sponsor.
Speaker 1: Shout out to my Bins. They're good guys. They move
Speaker 1: the bins from your house to the street and back.
Speaker 1: That's that's part of the service, the service, the offering,
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it. And he was like, dude,
Speaker 1: people are so territorial on their bins. Like he's like,
Speaker 1: we have some people that will be like make sure
Speaker 1: when you do put the bins out that no one
Speaker 1: puts any stuff in there. And they're like it's half full.
Speaker 2: And then I'm not security, bro, I'm here to take
Speaker 2: the bens out.
Speaker 1: And it's like but also to get like, have you
Speaker 1: ever tried to get a replacement bin or an extra bin? No,
Speaker 1: your rates go through the roof. You're trying to get
Speaker 1: another bin. Oh yeah, yeah. They charge you per bin obviously.
Speaker 1: And if you get a bigger bin, get a bigger bin.
Speaker 1: That's more money. Yeah, because people have a little miniature bin.
Speaker 1: Have you seen the size of my bin? And I've
Speaker 1: got two kids, one still in nappies overnight. It's a nightmare. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you guys are the neighbors. I'm feeling the neighbor's bin.
Speaker 1: As soon as the sun goes down, I'm out there
Speaker 1: pooty on balaclava. What you and April's dad we both
Speaker 1: got gloves on so no fingerprints can be left behind.
Speaker 1: And I'm up the street the other day. Actually I
Speaker 1: got caught. That reminded me. I got caught. I was
Speaker 1: the guy across the street. There's there're two old couples
Speaker 1: at a huge house. Yeah, two old couples, one old couple,
Speaker 1: two old people, and that it's always half full, like
Speaker 1: and I'm like, it's like next up. She's listening to
Speaker 1: have to talk. She's she's pretty old, bro. I think
Speaker 1: she's gonna hear it. She's like, and I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, coach is clear. Yeah, across the road, you know,
Speaker 1: pink panther music, opened it up, went to put it
Speaker 1: in and they drove in the driveway. Oh this is
Speaker 1: not my bin right, thankfully they're old. I had like
Speaker 1: I was just like, you know, I'm not young, but
Speaker 1: like they were just like too afraid. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: good thing you got tats on. Yeahs on, good thing
Speaker 1: you have tats. I got my tats on Today weekend,
Speaker 1: matt weekend with kids, you know, it's like you're trying
Speaker 1: to find ship to do, trying to keep me entertained,
Speaker 1: and sometimes you I find and I don't know if
Speaker 1: you're the same. You just end up going to different
Speaker 1: parks and it's fucking like parks are boring. There's some
Speaker 1: parks its like, got some things going on. But April
Speaker 1: was very much like, it's the Flying Fox Park. No,
Speaker 1: obviously one of them.
Speaker 2: If anyone doesn't know what I'm talking about, listen to
Speaker 2: last week's episode where Ash had to go about Flying
Speaker 2: Fox parks.
Speaker 1: Yes, continued not a fan. Over the weekend Saturday, April said,
Speaker 1: look tomorrow Sunday Family Day or do something different. I
Speaker 1: was like, sweet, no worries, and she was like, why
Speaker 1: are you doing the like the finger I felt like
Speaker 1: it was necessary family day, because every day's family. I
Speaker 1: have a family. Every day I have a family. So
Speaker 1: what you're saying to me is the first six days
Speaker 1: of the week I have no family. Is how this works?
Speaker 1: Obviously not? Did you say that? No, I want to
Speaker 1: sleep indoors and I and she was like, she said
Speaker 1: that to me just before I was leaving to go
Speaker 1: to the football which first game of the year. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna I'm going to sink some tins. Football was on Saturday, Saturday.
Speaker 2: Night, right, So she was just like, Hey, don't forget
Speaker 2: about us.
Speaker 1: Family Day tomorrow. I just come back from Vegas. I
Speaker 1: get it. She was like, do whatever you like tonight,
Speaker 1: just get up in the morning. And I'm like, I
Speaker 1: know what that means. Noted, that means get up in
Speaker 1: the morning. And you're very very I'm very observant taking information.
Speaker 1: And I woke up the next day bit Dusty and
Speaker 1: April said it's family Day. I said, what are we
Speaker 1: doing today then? And she said, We're going to take
Speaker 1: a bus to the Big Shops, which is you know,
Speaker 1: like a decent bus trip to a bigger shopping center,
Speaker 1: which just at ring them all. So we've got like
Speaker 1: a small one in worriing, like worry would square where
Speaker 1: did you take me that time? That's just where I
Speaker 1: would square. I think that's a small shop, small shops,
Speaker 1: great shops, great shops. Perfect for me, but not big
Speaker 1: enough for April, not big enough for family day. But
Speaker 1: she was like, it's an adventure and it's like Macy
Speaker 1: had never been on a bus. Oscar has but as
Speaker 1: you know, on the Northern Beaches, we've got the double
Speaker 1: decker bus. Yeah you guys, you guys must be thank
Speaker 1: you trade my chamis needy and I was like, oh okay,
Speaker 1: it was a bit dusty. I was like, well, let's
Speaker 1: go down. We drove down to the bus stop. We
Speaker 1: went sat waiting for the bus to come and it's
Speaker 1: a big, two story bus and the kids are super
Speaker 1: excited to get on. Oscar's already been on before, sitting
Speaker 1: up the top. We didn't get to sit at the
Speaker 1: front at the top, but Macy seems has taken Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a few spots like that's annoying way through, which
Speaker 1: is still good, but it's Macey was petrified like she
Speaker 1: was on a roller coaster. She was like grabbing hold
Speaker 1: of April, like away from the window and she was
Speaker 1: trying to get she was trying to get out. The
Speaker 1: stairs are really steep. The bus took off and she
Speaker 1: was like, and then they must be so used to
Speaker 1: being like locked down in a baby seat. Yeah, now
Speaker 1: all of a sudden they're on the road unhinged. So
Speaker 1: she was petrified all the way there, and Oscar the
Speaker 1: whole time was like, I'm board, on board, and then
Speaker 1: we get off the bus and I was like, that
Speaker 1: was amazing. And I was like, I don't know, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't think they just say that to
Speaker 1: fill the gap when there's nothing to say. They're just like,
Speaker 1: I'm bored. And she was like me, he has to
Speaker 1: fill the air with words at all times, Like he's
Speaker 1: just like continuous. I wonder where he gets from. Anyway,
Speaker 1: we did the shopping. Yep, what are you buying? On
Speaker 1: family Day? April needed some tights before and the kids
Speaker 1: wanted to look at toys at a different shop. Okay,
Speaker 1: what are the times for just exercise? Exercise? Yeah? Nice?
Speaker 1: Anyone wants to give my wafe some tights she needs?
Speaker 1: Did April get the tights? No? Ah? What classic get
Speaker 1: all the way to the big shops. No tights. I
Speaker 1: was like, not a single tight. No. She tried on
Speaker 1: some and I just found seats to sit in. That's
Speaker 1: pretty much all. She wasn't happy with the tights. Wasn't
Speaker 1: happy with it. Okay, okay, a bit painful, but look, honestly,
Speaker 1: I don't really have a leg to stand on. I've
Speaker 1: sort of just got to go along and carry everything
Speaker 1: for the trip. Is April listened to these episodes, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'd love to know what was wrong with the tights.
Speaker 1: Camel tooe. That's not even a joke, very particular my wife. Sorry, everybody,
Speaker 1: let's get back on track. We're getting back on the bus.
Speaker 1: Macey's brave again. She wants to walk on her own
Speaker 1: onto the bars, get up up the stairs, up the stairs.
Speaker 1: She got on. She's quickly scared again and she's like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, because it's quite rocky. But then shable. She
Speaker 1: was distracted by the fact that upstairs there's no bus driver,
Speaker 1: because the bus driver's downstairs, but she didn't because she's
Speaker 1: so small, she didn't see the bus driver on the
Speaker 1: way in. So now she's obsessed thinking that the bus
Speaker 1: drives herself, and it started to freak her out, like,
Speaker 1: where's the driver? She kept pointing, like where's the driver?
Speaker 1: Did you explain to her or you like, I don't
Speaker 1: know where it is. I was like, it's on the roof.
Speaker 1: She was just like, oh, so we stopped. We'll let
Speaker 1: the kids press the button. They love pressing buttons. They're like,
Speaker 1: press the button for every stop. And we stopped it
Speaker 1: Narrabeene to get off, and Macey they were they pressing
Speaker 1: for not their stop, like because thankfully it's sort of
Speaker 1: bus that stops at that main only the main stops anyway.
Speaker 2: Because the best way to piss off a bus driver
Speaker 2: is to press the stop button and no one gets off.
Speaker 1: Anyway. We get to Narrabeene and it's Macy's brave again
Speaker 1: and wants to walk off the bus and they're quite
Speaker 1: steep steps. Can I just say it's I get I
Speaker 1: get stressed out when the bus stops. You don't have
Speaker 1: a lot of time to get off the bus. This
Speaker 1: is what happened. Macy wanted to get off on herself,
Speaker 1: took forever fucking grab her stop. Oh god, she latched
Speaker 1: onto the railing, missed the stop. I'm en route to
Speaker 1: Mona Vail. Did anyone get off the bus. It was April. No,
Speaker 1: no one, We're all stuck behind Macy. Would you yell
Speaker 1: out say hey, it was too late, we will move.
Speaker 1: We're on the go. And we had to go to
Speaker 1: the next bus stop. Where did you guys end up?
Speaker 1: The next bus stop, which is the next suburb. Get off,
Speaker 1: walk across, Walk across the busy main road back to
Speaker 1: the other side. Wait another ten minutes for a bus
Speaker 1: to come back to take us back the other way.
Speaker 1: Is she having naps still? Yeah? Oh god? So where
Speaker 1: how are you at nap time? We are way past now.
Speaker 1: Did you have any food on you? We had some? Yeah,
Speaker 1: they did have like little lunchboxes thing. Thank god? What
Speaker 1: about me, Matthew? Sorry? Yeah, I hung over as fu
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I'm on a bars the whole time,
Speaker 1: Like I had a porto at the shops. Did you
Speaker 1: have chips? Oh? Yeah, for God's sake, what do you
Speaker 1: do it to yourself? Okay, let me tell you's not
Speaker 1: the thing. A meal is not complete without chips. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but chips for you are like valiant. I I ate
Speaker 1: a large chips for I go to sleep. It's like
Speaker 1: sleeping tablet. I've never seen someone getting knocked horizontal quicker
Speaker 1: than hash wigs having a couple of chippies. Bro, I'm
Speaker 1: like comatized.
Speaker 2: Whatever you when we have lunch here and we have
Speaker 2: some chippies, I'm worried about you driving home.
Speaker 1: Comatosed. Just the potato, the starchy potato does it for me.
Speaker 1: Do you know what really gets me? When you're dipping
Speaker 1: chips in potato and gravy. Think of that one type
Speaker 1: of fried chip dipped in mush chip. The calves are
Speaker 1: through the roofs. I'm just like, First of all, I'm like,
Speaker 1: you've got You've got to stop doing it to yourself.
Speaker 1: I love it. But I was on the bus very
Speaker 1: much like, oh man, I can't wait to get off
Speaker 1: this bus next minute, I'm fucking missing the stop doing
Speaker 1: a complete uti. Did you get home? We got home
Speaker 1: and I fell straight asleep like three hours. It's a
Speaker 1: big day for me. Family day is a big day
Speaker 1: for ad. And then we yeah, spent the rest of
Speaker 1: the day at the park. That sounds awful. But the
Speaker 1: bus when we got to the shops after the first
Speaker 1: bus trip April stupidly leant over to me to go
Speaker 1: I wish we drove and I was like, you fucking idiot, Like,
Speaker 1: don't you dare tell me that, because I would have
Speaker 1: drove us to get home be on the bus. Buses.
Speaker 1: Bus is fun, but you know it is more fun
Speaker 1: electric bikes. Yes, feel me? And I did see that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got my electric bike on the weekend. What are
Speaker 1: your thoughts on the cool factor of that bike? It's
Speaker 1: it's low. I don't want that look for me. I
Speaker 1: love it. I love that bike. I want one, honestly.
Speaker 1: I like the idea of the kids on the back,
Speaker 1: like Osco, I've got him on the front of mine?
Speaker 1: Is yours? A fat boy? What's your bonds? A fucking
Speaker 1: juicy boy? Is it cool? Fat boy? Is that the brand?
Speaker 1: A brand called fat boy? I got a Drodi and
Speaker 1: you one on the way, you have a cool one.
Speaker 2: I've got two kids, and I didn't like the idea
Speaker 2: of trying to put one in the front.
Speaker 1: One of the backs I've got. I've got the one
Speaker 1: that I've got like a flat bed. It's a long tray,
Speaker 1: but it's got small wheels, way more practice. It's aqua.
Speaker 2: It's aqua color aqua, and I wish it was more
Speaker 2: time aqua.
Speaker 1: I wish it was black. I wish it was, you
Speaker 1: know that's but I guess aqua is quite bright. We
Speaker 1: could we can paint it. I'm not going to paint it,
Speaker 1: which gets to scrap up a subscription. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: what's a subscription? Yeah, just run me through that, Okay.
Speaker 1: So you pay an amount of money per week like
Speaker 1: a rental. Yeah, subscription. They're pretty much just does it
Speaker 1: rent to own? Subscribe to own? Ah? No, So if
Speaker 1: we fuck it o, it's you've got to pay for
Speaker 1: the whole thing a little bit. Yeah, But the kids
Speaker 1: love it.
Speaker 2: Kids absolutely enjoy it, and it's a little bit hairy
Speaker 2: at some points on the road. At daycare this morning,
Speaker 2: sun was out, beautiful day and my niece goes to
Speaker 2: the same daycare as Lola, and so I was like, hey,
Speaker 2: let's not go in the car, let's go on the bike.
Speaker 2: But little Chassy mcghazzy, my niece, she was a bit
Speaker 2: like what fuck is this thing?
Speaker 1: She's like, never been on a bike. Where's zebelt? She's
Speaker 1: never been on a bike before. Well, she's been a
Speaker 1: training wheels. Yeah, So she was a bit like Macie
Speaker 1: where she was like how does this thing work? Lola's
Speaker 1: there strapped in.
Speaker 2: She's got a baby seat, and then there's just two
Speaker 2: little handle bars. Yeah, I saw that, and so I
Speaker 2: put Chazy there. And then there's certain points we go downhill,
Speaker 2: we get like forty k's an hour.
Speaker 1: They do zip and I'm like, you guys have fun
Speaker 1: back there. I was like slow. She even goes what
Speaker 1: happens if I fall out? And I said, just hold on,
Speaker 1: You're not going to fall if you hold it on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I said. She was freaking the hell. Lola
Speaker 1: was like, she's loving it. She's sitting in the back
Speaker 1: there having a cigarette. She's just like faster driver. April
Speaker 1: like same thing she gets on every now and then
Speaker 1: with me, and she's just like, is this safe? Hold
Speaker 1: on she's got Yeah, she's really on the love handles too.
Speaker 1: Can I ask you a question? No? Yeah, go, You're
Speaker 1: can't ask me anything, like.
Speaker 2: I just want to know if I've done the wrong thing. Here,
Speaker 2: wait on me, go Okay, have I done the wrong thing?
Speaker 1: Or is Laura in the wrong At the moment, I'm
Speaker 1: doing all of the daycare drop offs with Lola on
Speaker 1: the bike from now from this point on bikes other
Speaker 1: than rain weather permitting Lola. I don't know if I
Speaker 1: mentioned this.
Speaker 2: She's at a new daycare, really struggling with the drop offs,
Speaker 2: really struggling. We're now six seven, eight weeks in tears
Speaker 2: most mornings. It's hard. And then this morning, Lola's like,
Speaker 2: I'm going to bring this toy. And she had this
Speaker 2: big bunny that's giant. It's like, you know, big guy.
Speaker 2: You push a button on its belly and it sings
Speaker 2: a song and it dances.
Speaker 1: Right, you're not allowed that to take care. You're not
Speaker 1: allowed to take I want I get you kids kid
Speaker 1: you know kids, right, yeah? Kids, kids, two kids. I'm
Speaker 1: just so.
Speaker 2: Lola's like, I'm bringing this thing and I'm like, you're
Speaker 2: not bringing that thing, and she's like, but I'm allowed to.
Speaker 2: And I said, well, who said you're allowed to? You
Speaker 2: gues Mom told me? And I was like, there's no
Speaker 2: way that mom has said yes to this, and so
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm going to fucking get you here, Lola.
Speaker 1: I was like, did mom really say that? Let's give
Speaker 1: her a call.
Speaker 2: So I call Laura on speaker next to Lola who's
Speaker 2: holding the bunny.
Speaker 1: And I was like, fucking you're going to learn. You're
Speaker 1: going to get called out here, Lola lie to me
Speaker 1: and say, tell me that your mother has allowed this.
Speaker 1: Please try they try and play you against each other.
Speaker 2: She was trying to play me, and I was like, no,
Speaker 2: on my watch, pow. I love where this is going
Speaker 2: so cool Laura, And I said, did you say to Lola?
Speaker 1: Look at Laura. Did you say to Lola? You did
Speaker 1: she could bring the bunny rabbit, the one that it
Speaker 1: sings and it dances. And then Laura goes, yeah, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: they're in cahoots those two. You're never gonna Lola in particular,
Speaker 1: You're never gonna They've already had this chat.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah last night. Yeah, I don't know where I was.
Speaker 2: They've they've they've gone.
Speaker 1: We'll loop him in when the time comes, because if
Speaker 1: we loop him in now, it'll be a problem from
Speaker 1: now until we leave. But if I loop him in
Speaker 1: when we leave, it's only a problem for that long.
Speaker 1: So I said to Laura, what do you mean you
Speaker 1: said yes to the toy? And she goes, well, we
Speaker 1: had a conversation that if there was anything that would
Speaker 1: help Lola with a drop off process, make it a
Speaker 1: bit easier for her, we would allow it and I say, yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know the rules at daycare, no toys that
Speaker 1: make any noise. You're allowed like a.
Speaker 2: Little soft toy that they can have as a comforter.
Speaker 2: And she goes, I didn't know that. I may have
Speaker 2: said something, may have said something which was fighting words.
Speaker 1: I'm going to just quickly say it's it's on for Laura.
Speaker 1: That's a great I think she's what she's doing there
Speaker 1: is she's trying to make your life easier for drop off.
Speaker 1: So I'm going to just quickly jump on her side
Speaker 1: and say because you did mention anything that makes it
Speaker 1: easier for her, I'm then.
Speaker 2: Going to feel the wrath from daycare when I come
Speaker 2: in there.
Speaker 1: Stand up to the man. I can't do rules as rules.
Speaker 1: You know that break a few rules, can't. I'm the
Speaker 1: new guy. I'm playing by the rules. No be a rogue,
Speaker 1: go rogue.
Speaker 2: Why I said to Laura when she was like, well,
Speaker 2: I didn't know that, And I said, yeah you would
Speaker 2: if you went to any of the orientation days.
Speaker 1: Where did you sleep last night? Well that was this morning?
Speaker 1: Where you sleeping at night? How did that go down? Yeah? Really?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 1: Yeah good? I thought I thought that might be the case,
Speaker 1: she would have taken that on the chin. Laura, of
Speaker 1: all people, would have really taken that on the chin.
Speaker 2: And so then so then I've got a situation where
Speaker 2: I've now got a very angry wife.
Speaker 1: I've also got Lola who's in tears. And I'm not
Speaker 1: stepping down for no one. I'm going to say that
Speaker 1: you so you needed to put your pride aside at
Speaker 1: that moment. So I hung up, and then, oh, oh
Speaker 1: my god, help yourself. I'm on Laura's side. I think, Laura,
Speaker 1: my arm's trying to make it easier for Lola and
Speaker 1: you and you fighting it is causing more of a problem.
Speaker 1: But surely every parent, everyone who's had any kind of
Speaker 1: experience with daycare knows that you're not allowed a toy
Speaker 1: other than like a little soft toy, jump on board
Speaker 1: and sneak it in.
Speaker 2: But then, but then I'm setting Lola up to fail.
Speaker 1: She's going to get it taken away from her. She's
Speaker 1: going to hate daycare even more. You're making about a point,
Speaker 1: but I'm more what's easier for me, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Like, my kids do the same thing. I
Speaker 1: think all kids do the same thing. Where they go
Speaker 1: I want to take this because they want to show
Speaker 1: their friends. I now just say, if we're in the car,
Speaker 1: I say take it, but you're to leave it in
Speaker 1: the car. You tried that one? No, No, it works
Speaker 1: if they strap it into their own seat. It's fun
Speaker 1: little game. Move on. But I'm with Laura to say,
Speaker 1: whatever is it? Because she's struggling. She wasn't struggling. I'm
Speaker 1: on a different side. But because she's struggling, and we
Speaker 1: had this conversation when you're in the jungle that Lola
Speaker 1: was really upset. And now we're doubt how many more
Speaker 1: weeks down the track and it's still happening. It's months.
Speaker 1: Break some rules for your kids, bro. Consider in silence,
Speaker 1: did Laura message you before we recorded? No? Why? I
Speaker 1: just don't know. It just seems like you're very much
Speaker 1: on her team. I would it would I would suffer
Speaker 1: more if I was to jump onto your team. But
Speaker 1: I think you got to bend some rules every now
Speaker 1: and then. I get that they might take it off her,
Speaker 1: but I don't think they're going to hastily take it
Speaker 1: off her, are they? And if they did, then you
Speaker 1: know this is the wrong day, the wrong daycare game.
Speaker 1: I'll digest this conversation. I know you're not happy with me.
Speaker 1: I can see it that or you're hungry. I can't
Speaker 1: work out which one of it is. But I can't
Speaker 1: sit here and take your side all the time. Let's
Speaker 1: move this along. Okay, So where do we end up?
Speaker 1: You haven't spoken to what synth of you? Now? I
Speaker 1: got to call it after this and what what's going
Speaker 1: to happen? What's gonna happen on the phone. Are you're
Speaker 1: going to I know you you're not apologize. I'm going
Speaker 1: to back down. I don't apologize. You are not. Have
Speaker 1: I gotten through? I don't know. I've got a big
Speaker 1: quick question for you. Do your kids have any I've
Speaker 1: got a real big question for you. You're ready for this,
Speaker 1: big boy? Go on? What do you got? It's better
Speaker 1: be good. I wanted to ask if your kids have
Speaker 1: any allergies, because you don't what going to school now
Speaker 1: and there's like they're not allergy that everyone fucking talks about.
Speaker 1: What have you got for me? I only have one
Speaker 1: allergy and it's two penicillin, A specific type of penicillin.
Speaker 1: But why I asked you? Because obviously sometimes it gets
Speaker 1: passed down to kids and kids have. Macy's allergic to
Speaker 1: something which is devastating. Chocolate band aids what she's allergic
Speaker 1: to the other day, that's not devastating. That's a great result. No,
Speaker 1: it's not. Because now anytime she hurts herself and she
Speaker 1: wants a band aid, I can't give a one because
Speaker 1: she breaks out in a rash. You ever a kiss,
Speaker 1: bro No, And she doesn't understand why Oscar gets band
Speaker 1: aids and she doesn't get banned, So now she feels
Speaker 1: like she's missing out, So then she's even more upset.
Speaker 1: I do band aids.
Speaker 2: I'm going to say that's one of the biggest expenses
Speaker 2: in this household is buying band aids. But we've got
Speaker 2: a band we churned through the band aids. Dude, but
Speaker 2: I still have.
Speaker 1: To buy them. But I have to buy them and
Speaker 1: then not give them to her. It's even worse. Stop
Speaker 1: the band aids. No band aids in the house anymore.
Speaker 1: Oscar's bleeding out. I'm sorry to blame. Your sister wears
Speaker 1: them like an accessory.
Speaker 2: I brush her hair, get her teeth done, and then
Speaker 2: she's like, where's band aid I'm like, fuck, I know,
Speaker 2: I just put one on her we like, we're going
Speaker 2: through a pack a week.
Speaker 1: At the moment, Macy has got like four blisters from
Speaker 1: these sandals that she wore. Can't put a band aid
Speaker 1: on it? Well, hang on a secon. If you're gone
Speaker 1: to the big shops, get her a new pair of shoes.
Speaker 1: Were We had to because that's how we found out
Speaker 1: that she just all of a sudden one day grown
Speaker 1: out of these shoes they were she one day fine,
Speaker 1: next day Crocs no, bro get her and cross no,
Speaker 1: because she wears crocs and she's a classic foot track.
Speaker 1: She trips over everywhere. She's like a bumbling mess. You
Speaker 1: put crocs on my daughter and you literally at my
Speaker 1: back of you saw from picking her up off the ground.
Speaker 1: When's her birthday? Just put this way I can startle
Speaker 1: Macy and she falls over. Think about that and then
Speaker 1: add crocs into that. Put crocs in there and she's
Speaker 1: got something.
Speaker 2: Hey, you gave me advice and I took it. I'm
Speaker 2: giving you advice. All I'm saying, hear me out. Don't
Speaker 2: interrupt me, don't interrupt me. Don't put your finger down. Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm saying two things. Okay, band aids oscar is now
Speaker 2: allergic as well. They're out of the house. Okay, you're
Speaker 2: gonna lie to him.
Speaker 1: It's terrible, okay. And then secondly, crocs for Macy. Okay,
Speaker 1: let me just flip that on here for a second. Please.
Speaker 1: Oscar falls over, bleeding everywhere, got no band aids? One two,
Speaker 1: I put crocs on Macy. She falls over, she bleeds everywhere.
Speaker 1: Then pick up of band aids on her anyway. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to otherwise it cuts, will stoup, blistering.
Speaker 1: So she's take it. We're going around in circles. If
Speaker 1: Oscar is bleeding out, take him to the hospital. Moving on.
Speaker 1: I can't afford it. It's moving on, moving along here quickly,
Speaker 1: she's a list of band aids. Be it heasy. If
Speaker 1: I think and she breaks out in a rash, it's
Speaker 1: a nightmare. And moving right along, ash, we're going into
Speaker 1: parenting lies. Dare you move me along? Tell me loud,
Speaker 1: tell me what have you got for me? Big? Go
Speaker 1: my mom. I don't know where she is, by the way,
Speaker 1: lost her in the house again. She was she can't
Speaker 1: get that fast.
Speaker 2: She was here before I was had a recording because
Speaker 2: I was going to get her to tell her lie,
Speaker 2: But then she fucking disappeared. I don't know where she
Speaker 2: is La Jinx. Someone's think we should fuck Sorry. So
Speaker 2: she told me this lie from when we were younger. Okay,
Speaker 2: it was a very clever lie. And I said, firstly
Speaker 2: I was offended. I was upset, and then I said, actually, no,
Speaker 2: that's I should commend you for this great lie.
Speaker 1: So it took you how long to figure this out? Well?
Speaker 2: I only realized when she told me went like today
Speaker 2: it was a few days ago, because she she heard
Speaker 2: we're talking about parenting lies and she was like, I
Speaker 2: got a life for here, your little piece of ship.
Speaker 1: I said, what do you mean? When we were younger,
Speaker 1: we had a PlayStation one Vintage respect. We loved it.
Speaker 1: What was it? Grand Tarismo? Ah? Why do I have
Speaker 1: an direction for those of you who don't know. It's
Speaker 1: a car racing game. We more than just that Domades. Sorry,
Speaker 1: you're right, you're right.
Speaker 2: And what she used to do because we were kind
Speaker 2: of obsessed with the PlayStation when we first got it,
Speaker 2: this is genius. She told us that it was a rental.
Speaker 2: She said that the PlayStation it is not it is
Speaker 2: not our PlayStation. She's rented it from video easy.
Speaker 1: Ah, that is good. That is top shelf parenting from Elie.
Speaker 2: And so we used to get the PlayStation in school
Speaker 2: holidays only sometimes sometimes Mum would be like on the
Speaker 2: weekend she'd be like, I'm going to do the shop.
Speaker 1: It's going to I'm going to rent out of PlayStations
Speaker 1: in the back of the car. So we would get it, and.
Speaker 2: Then on the Sunday on the end of the holiday,
Speaker 2: she'd be like, I've got to return the PlayStation back
Speaker 2: to the shop because on the rental and we were like, oh,
Speaker 2: I have one more week, and she'd be like, no,
Speaker 2: I can't, that's got to go back.
Speaker 1: It's booked out. I underestimated your mother. That is good stuff,
Speaker 1: very good.
Speaker 2: And so I only now realized that we in fact
Speaker 2: owned outright that place, very owned PlayStation.
Speaker 1: And you thought it was So I can picture you
Speaker 1: at school being like, oh, I'm wait for school holidays,
Speaker 1: Mum's going to rent the PlayStation and all your friends
Speaker 1: that own the PlayStation, like I didn't want to say it.
Speaker 1: I have one here from Molina which Melina, Congratulations, you're
Speaker 1: a winner of a stuffed Maddie j or ashsh The
Speaker 1: choice is yours. Don't rush into it. That's not whatever
Speaker 1: you say. We're going to send you a bit of
Speaker 1: an ash. You will get a message from producer Jess. Yes, congratulations. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm going to read it. You line. Now, that's what
Speaker 1: we're here for. Melina says. I tell my kids that
Speaker 1: the ice cream truck is the ambulance, so they freak
Speaker 1: out every time. I thought she was going to say that,
Speaker 1: like with the sound on, there are our ice cream.
Speaker 1: That was just a classic.
Speaker 2: That's where I thought it was going, the old classic
Speaker 2: when the sirens are on for the ice cream truck.
Speaker 1: No, no ice cream left, Just when you think you're
Speaker 1: going down a path and she throws a right turn in.
Speaker 1: Do you know what I feel sorry for? Quite often
Speaker 1: the people who are the victims here, the innocent victims
Speaker 1: of these lies, the driver, emergency services. Oh sorry, I
Speaker 1: think about the ice cream truck. Drive miss I've got
Speaker 1: bap all the parenting lines. You know, it's like police
Speaker 1: and ambulance and I guess fire men. They're the ones
Speaker 1: you never get a bad wrap in these painting lines. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like we're not allowed to give a bad rap
Speaker 1: because they're here to protect and serve Matthew. Same with
Speaker 1: the ice cream driver. He's here to maybe not protect,
Speaker 1: try and make a living, but to serve and make
Speaker 1: a living.
Speaker 2: Hey, we got we've got a question here. We are
Speaker 2: running out of time, Ash.
Speaker 1: Okay, great, but I'm going to squeeze in it one
Speaker 1: quick question, if I may, I put it out there.
Speaker 2: I've asked the Facebook group. Haven't had any answers back,
Speaker 2: Jesse yet. We will continue on if people come back
Speaker 2: with answers, we'll talk about it next week. But I
Speaker 2: want to know from you. Have you or any parents
Speaker 2: you know, regretted the name of their child. Yeah, my parents.
Speaker 1: Ash is an Aordy name. No, no, no, okay, let
Speaker 1: me let me take you down there on a journey please.
Speaker 1: It was thankfully it was before I was born. But
Speaker 1: they had settled on the name. Okay, they said it
Speaker 1: on the name, believe it or not, Matthew. For me,
Speaker 1: my name was set to be Matthew. That was they
Speaker 1: had already told family friends, boy, we're gonna name me Matthew.
Speaker 1: And one one day they were down the beach and
Speaker 1: there was heaps of kids, heaps of families and mum
Speaker 1: reckons that she spotted like four or five different parents
Speaker 1: calling out to their child Matthew, and she decided she
Speaker 1: regretted the telling everyone that that was going to be
Speaker 1: my name, that she had decided she had changed it
Speaker 1: to now Ashton. Dang, that's a true story. Call her
Speaker 1: up right now. I believe it, Jane. I have time
Speaker 1: for that next week. But yeah, so they regretted. There's
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with your name. First of all, thank you.
Speaker 1: Just everyone has it. And but my middle name is
Speaker 1: now Matthew what Ashton William Matthew Wicks. I didn't know
Speaker 1: you had had two middle names. Do you know anything
Speaker 1: about me? I'most double agent. I feel like I'm sitting
Speaker 1: across next to a stranger now, you know now, But yeah,
Speaker 1: it was going to be Yeah, but I don't know
Speaker 1: of anyone that's after the birth. I'm sure. I'm sure
Speaker 1: it's happened. If you do have a story about it,
Speaker 1: if someone out there has a story where it's like,
Speaker 1: I name my kid Bob, and then I realized what
Speaker 1: a big mistake like. Imagine accidentally naming your kid after
Speaker 1: like a serial killer you didn't know, Like, there's an
Speaker 1: episode of Seinfeld with a kid name was Joel Rifkin
Speaker 1: and he was like one of the greatest murderers in
Speaker 1: serial murders in the city's history. Have there been many Ivans? Oh,
Speaker 1: Ivan Cleary, it's him. I did some digging online ash
Speaker 1: and I've got it. Got some information here which is interesting, Okay,
Speaker 1: very very random. Here is a list of declined baby
Speaker 1: names from New Zealand twenty eighteen. Why that year and
Speaker 1: in New Zealand? I do know it was published? And
Speaker 1: did it just come up the first Google.
Speaker 2: And it just come up that's the first one. Okay, okay,
Speaker 2: laid on it must be good. I've also got like
Speaker 2: a count number here. But how many times it was rejected?
Speaker 1: Duke, emperor but then empress spelt normally, then Empress spelled
Speaker 1: E M P R A H, Emperor and pro. I
Speaker 1: thought you were going to say, they changed the E
Speaker 1: to A three Roman numerals, just like the dash dash
Speaker 1: rejected twice, like just the dashed like the second. What
Speaker 1: are you confused with the tally or the name dash?
Speaker 1: I guess what was rejected six times? King? It's oh yeah,
Speaker 1: it's common wealth, Commonwealth. I think I think you name
Speaker 1: me a kid. King It's it's arrogant. That's the highest
Speaker 1: order Messiah. Messiah rejected twice, Prince rejected four times. I
Speaker 1: used to work with a guy named Jesus. Jesus but
Speaker 1: it's Jesus. Yeah. I love it when there's there's been
Speaker 1: like multiple attempts.
Speaker 2: So there's there's Prince, this Prince writer, there's Prince with
Speaker 2: his zed and then Prince p r y n Ce.
Speaker 1: They really wanted the name, trying not to get a
Speaker 1: shadow band. But everyone wants the royal names. There's Royal, Royal, Royalty,
Speaker 1: Chicken Royal, have you mean my chicken Royale Wicks? Why
Speaker 1: would Saint Saint was rejected a lot. You can't call
Speaker 1: the kids saint because it'll it'll backflip on you. There'll
Speaker 1: be a.
Speaker 2: Turn they will be they will be his name here
Speaker 2: Justice j A h Justice, Hey Justice. But if you
Speaker 2: know anyone, yes, who's had a name that has been
Speaker 2: regretted after it was given, maybe does anyone had to change?
Speaker 1: Surely it's out there.
Speaker 2: My mum knew someone called Richard Orcock. Richard is now
Speaker 2: they would abbreviate it to dick, cock or cock. They
Speaker 2: didn't change it, they kept it.
Speaker 1: I used to work with a guy. No, I didn't
Speaker 1: work with him. He was one of the contractors on
Speaker 1: the team, and I thought it did work with it.
Speaker 1: I guess you can continue, okay. And I thought it
Speaker 1: was a type that type, Paul. I thought it was
Speaker 1: a type. Come on, I thought it was a typo.
Speaker 1: There he is because his name was Michael Michaels, and
Speaker 1: I thought that's wrong. And then I saw a copy
Speaker 1: of his license and his name was Michael Michaels. What
Speaker 1: is wrong with people? Not? What is wrong with Michael Michaels.
Speaker 1: Have some fucking creativity? How did that? How do you
Speaker 1: get there, Michael Michaels. But he was a fully grown man,
Speaker 1: still rocking it, Michael Michaels. I mean credit to him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you've got anything, please hit us up because I
Speaker 1: think it's very interesting. I think what's very interesting is
Speaker 1: that the rejected names and the Commonwealth because Duke, my
Speaker 1: landlord's named kids. Landlord's kids name is Duke. If that's
Speaker 1: legal or it's just rejected, well there is New Zealand.
Speaker 1: Duke was rejected in New Zealand, sure the government or
Speaker 1: by just people being like by the government, wow, official official, Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know how he must be one of the
Speaker 1: only dukes in Australia. Let's put a pin in their
Speaker 1: because we're out of time, and let's bring it. Let's
Speaker 1: bring it to lie. We'll talk about this next week.
Speaker 1: Don't you worry? Great, don't you worry?
Speaker 2: More bust trips, more kids' names, bringing you all the
Speaker 2: good stuff.
Speaker 1: If you've had a bad experience with one of these names,
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Speaker 1: why I wasn't sure it was dot a U S.
Speaker 1: I should have trusted you should. Sorry, I'm sorry about that.
Speaker 1: I used to I could have been a Matthew and
Speaker 1: there's no trust. I have Matthew from middle there's no
Speaker 1: trus there's no trust. Okay, just quickly go on before
Speaker 1: we go. This episode comes out of my mum's birthday.
Speaker 1: So happy birthday, mum. She doesn't listen, so she won't
Speaker 1: hear this, so that was so that was a waste
Speaker 1: of way. Thank you, mum. How old is she turning
Speaker 1: sixty three? She's young? Wow, we can get her a
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Speaker 1: There's a shop section.
Speaker 2: We will say we only have men's sizes, but there
Speaker 2: are unisex T shirt. There's photos of your beautiful wife.
Speaker 1: And you're beautiful. Thank you very much. Stop eating one
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