1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: Get a. 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 2: I'm Lola Berry, nutritionist, author, actor, TV presenter, and professional oversharer. 3 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 2: This podcast is all about celebrating failure because I believe 4 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 2: it's a chance for us to learn, grow and face 5 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 2: our blind spots. Each week, I'll interview a different guest 6 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 2: about their highs as well as their lows, all in 7 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 2: a bid to inspire us to fearlessly fail. 8 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: Hello. 9 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 2: Right, Oh, so today we've actually pushed our schedule of 10 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 2: interviewing people and replaced it with interviewing a person. So 11 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 2: it's still the same format, but I'm interviewing today B Now. 12 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 2: B is the founder and director of the Owl and 13 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 2: Pussycat Farm Animal Sanctuary. 14 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: She lost so much during the floods. 15 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 2: Literally a sixty meter torrent ripped through through the farm. 16 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 2: They lost food, they lost animal housing, fencing, Their dam 17 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 2: is now filled. 18 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: With like rubble and rocks. 19 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 2: On top of all that, her personal home just twelve 20 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 2: minutes down the road has been completely affected as well. 21 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 2: They've lost from their home heaps of hay and feed 22 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 2: for the animals, which she was saying to me essay 23 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 2: is now considered a health hazard because remember as well, 24 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 2: the floods technically happened about ten to fourteen days ago, 25 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 2: and that stuff. 26 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: Is now all going moldy, and. 27 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 2: Now we're seeing people are getting sick from being around 28 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 2: and working in the muddy water as well. So it's 29 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 2: just this ongoing kind of like beast, But today I 30 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 2: wanted to get be on the podcast because she's so passionate, 31 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 2: she's got so much gumption, and she's got this courageous 32 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 2: heart and she just doesn't give up. And so I 33 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 2: just wanted to build as much awareness as we could 34 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 2: for Bee and her wonderful full sanctuary where she's got 35 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 2: the most incredible animals. 36 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: We've been lucky enough. 37 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 2: To volunteer out there a couple of days, and we've 38 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 2: fallen in love with her farm with all of the 39 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 2: animals on it, and I just wanted to do this 40 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 2: episode to give back a little well not even give back, 41 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 2: but just kind of like raise some awareness for her, 42 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 2: to be completely honest with her with you. 43 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: Sorry. A new show was going to do a story 44 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: on b and that never got off the ground, and 45 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: when I found that out, I was like, stuff it. 46 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: We needed You're on the pod. 47 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 2: At least then some people might hear it and be 48 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 2: able to donate ten. 49 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: Bucks or just a little bit to help her get 50 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: back on her feet. You'll hear in this pod she. 51 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 2: Also lost everything in the Black Friday, Black Saturday bushfires 52 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 2: as well, so you'll hear her resilience, passion, gumption in 53 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 2: this chat. And I really hope that it's just a 54 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 2: really honest chat about what's going on on the ground 55 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 2: here with the floods. So thank you for listening and 56 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 2: big love, welcome to the podcast. 57 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 1: B Thank you, and I'm sure thank you, thank you 58 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 1: name do you just tell me? It was named after 59 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:20,399 Speaker 1: a famous poem. 60 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 3: Poem by Edward Lear, Yeah, which is a story about 61 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 3: an hour and a pussycat falling in love and marrying 62 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 3: under a moon. 63 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, I need to find this new job. 64 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 1: It's a good poem. Okay. 65 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,679 Speaker 2: As we record this, we met yesterday, yes by the way, 66 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 2: we are sitting at your beautiful sanctuary, yep, and we're 67 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 2: looking over at a few of my comrades that have 68 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 2: come and what are they doing currently? 69 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: They are They are. 70 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 3: Up to their knees and shit, bless them pulling God 71 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 3: knows how much debris off our washedaway fencing. 72 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: I'm so grateful. 73 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 2: So that's exactly why we're doing this chat. This your 74 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 2: pharm and your home was heavily and cars were heavily. 75 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 2: Ye good by the floods. So I think I'm just 76 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 2: going to start with quickly the ethos of the farm, 77 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 2: and then I want to know what happened, so hopefully 78 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 2: we can build some awareness and people can help. 79 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you. So we started about four and 80 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 3: a half years ago. It's a childhood dream of mine 81 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:23,359 Speaker 3: to rescue animals, and farm animals are really close to 82 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 3: my heart because they're always down the list of beings 83 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 3: that people care about, especially in natural disasters. 84 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: So yes, so are farm animals. Sanctuary. 85 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:38,239 Speaker 3: We rescue, rehabilitate and rehome animals to the best of homes. 86 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 3: We've also got nearly sixty permanent residents here and in 87 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 3: care at the moment. So the ducks, few of them, 88 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 3: yep ducks, sheep, goats, cows, cabs, horses, miniature horses who 89 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 3: are very, very naughty. 90 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: I've forgotten. 91 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 3: Sheep gem is my favorite thirty seven year old ex racehorse. 92 00:04:58,279 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: She is a supernanna. 93 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, So childhood dream. You've established this incredible charity. 94 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 2: It's all really about rescue, rehabilitation. 95 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:12,359 Speaker 1: And rehoming. Is that right, yep, and talk to me. 96 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 2: I'm imagining it all kicked off last Sunday night for 97 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 2: you as far as the floods went, was it about 98 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 2: Saturday or Sunday? 99 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, so the worst timing ever. So we there's four 100 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 3: of us who are on the sanctuary. 101 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: We've got. 102 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 3: Two of us who live on site and other on 103 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 3: site caretakers, and then my partner and I with my 104 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 3: two human children leave about. 105 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 1: Twelve minutes away. 106 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 3: And every time there's a big rain event, we always 107 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 3: make sure at least one of us is at the sanctuary. 108 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 3: So there's three of us on the ground. But we 109 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 3: all had COVID so we were really sick. So Paul, 110 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 3: Pixie and Benji were here by themselves, and what they've 111 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 3: related to me was absolutely terrifying. They had no power, 112 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 3: so they couldn't video anything because their phones were dead. 113 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 3: But yeah, and there was just no warning. I mean 114 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 3: at home where we are, we got an evacuation warning 115 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 3: come through at three thirty in the morning. 116 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 2: Your ocean chores, yes, southl yeah, far and at three 117 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 2: thirty in the morning. I don't know about you, but 118 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 2: I'm not checking my phone. 119 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 3: No, Well, I'd been up a lot of the night 120 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 3: worrying about the rain, but I'd sort of passed out 121 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 3: by then. 122 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: And when you woke up, was at really really really 123 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: bad at home? Yeah. When we woke up, we were 124 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 1: we had waterfront property. Oh wow, you know it was 125 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: all nice and good, but not mud not mud water. No. 126 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 2: And then when you were you able to get here, no, 127 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 2: so we all cut off. 128 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, by then the cars were submerged and we were 129 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 3: just stuck. 130 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: In the houses. 131 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 3: No power, no internet, no phone, so we couldn't contact 132 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 3: these guys out here. 133 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: The last communication we had from. 134 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 3: Them was at about two o'clock in the morning, just 135 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 3: before they lost everything. And we've got a beautiful little 136 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 3: rescue rister called Buttons. But Buttons is very loud, so 137 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 3: Buttons sleeps in one of the cars. And they'd woken 138 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 3: up to see this basically a land tsunami, and it 139 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 3: was engulfing the car and they couldn't get to him 140 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 3: because the waters were raging. 141 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 1: So they contacted Finn, my partner. 142 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 3: He was able to get onto our neighbor who walked 143 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 3: through the flood waters and got Buttons out at the 144 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 3: last minute. Ah, I've got to see Buttons after their 145 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 3: buttons is awesome. 146 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: So that was the last communication we had from them. 147 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,679 Speaker 2: Okay, So when I spoke to yesterday, you were telling 148 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 2: me that was it. Sixty meters a sixty meter wide, 149 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 2: huge raging torrent appeared where we don't have any water 150 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 2: course normally. 151 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: We've just had so much rain this season. 152 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 3: I think the table water was already at maximum capacity 153 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 3: and it just. 154 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: Rained and it rained and it rained, and. 155 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, the only way to describe it as a land tsunami. 156 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 3: So now their car, which was also parked next to 157 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 3: the other car that we lost where Buttons were sheltering, 158 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 3: is a few hundred meters down the road in a tree. 159 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: Oh is that the one I saw? Yes? Yes, okay, 160 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: and it's full on. 161 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: It's literally stuck in a with rocks and every Okay, 162 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 2: So then what happened? 163 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: Like how did you then get here? 164 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 2: Like? 165 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: How was that? Another couple of days? Yeah? So we God, 166 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: it's so hard to remember. It feels like about three years. 167 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 3: The last week because we're so close to the ocean, 168 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 3: it drained really quickly, so I think it was probably 169 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 3: twenty four hours. It was one day before we could 170 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 3: get out here. But we walked, waded through the floodwaters 171 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 3: and walked up the hill and borrowed a car to 172 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 3: get out to them. And by that stage the waters 173 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 3: had drained enough from Crabs Creek, and our amazing neighbor 174 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 3: who has a Bobcat and an earthworker he had actually 175 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 3: somehow cleared and reconstructed the roads enough in our little 176 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 3: village for people to get in and out. We still 177 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 3: couldn't access the sanctuary, but we were able to wade 178 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 3: in and yeah, oh get here. 179 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 2: Holy So how long have you had volunteers coming and 180 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 2: kind of like helping and like rebuilding that beautiful duckman. 181 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 3: Yes, So we were kind of a little bit shell 182 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:00,839 Speaker 3: shocked for the first couple of days and no one 183 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 3: could get here. So we started having people offering to help, 184 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 3: which was just so amazing, probably about four or five 185 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 3: days ago, but people couldn't access it. So then we 186 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 3: did sort of a last minute come if you can. 187 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 3: It's still a bit treacherous with a two wheel drive. 188 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 3: So it was yesterday in the day before we had 189 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 3: a lot of people show up, which was really cool, 190 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 3: and some new friendships made and offers of ongoing help, 191 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 3: which is fabulous because we don't really have any good 192 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 3: ongoing volunteer help. 193 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 2: Well, when I was reading on your website, this is 194 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 2: a self funded sanctuary, donations of course help and then 195 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 2: it's volunteer help. 196 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: Yeah pretty much the extent. Yeah, yeah, so it's pretty 197 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: it's the four of us who do it. 198 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 3: Wow. 199 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 2: And you were saying you literally have your day job 200 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 2: ye from this Ye ask what you do out so 201 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:52,199 Speaker 2: you seem creative. 202 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 1: I feel like you're a creative soul. 203 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,599 Speaker 3: I've got a little graphic design, copywriting and branding agency. 204 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: Yeah I knew it was something creative. 205 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 2: Okay, So what so in the last few days, the 206 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,479 Speaker 2: support you've had has been solely pretty much from volunteers 207 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 2: and mates. 208 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: Yeah only only Yeah, nothing else, no, nothing else. 209 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 3: Even at South Golden in our house, we still haven't 210 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 3: had a door knock from any sort of authority at 211 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 3: all to make sure that people are okay. Like, you know, 212 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 3: there could be someone's dead nana in a house, but 213 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 3: there's been absolutely no door knocking. It's all been community led. 214 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 3: Every there's been nothing. 215 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 2: I spent the day before we came here, we were 216 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 2: in Lismore and yeah, but it was just the mud army, 217 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 2: was just the community the whole time. 218 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't need the government. I wish they'd just 219 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:41,319 Speaker 3: fuck off and leave us all alone. 220 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 2: Really well, I want my goal of this podcast is 221 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 2: to build as much awareness about you as we can 222 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 2: so we can get donations and so that you can 223 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 2: build that beautiful barn you're Yes, you had a dream, 224 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 2: didn't you run over? Yeah? 225 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, so we need a barn. We need a big barn. 226 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 3: Because we lost our whole hay store as well, that 227 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 3: was actually still at South Golden. We still don't know 228 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 3: how to get those round bails out of our garage. 229 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 3: So yeah, we need a big barn so that we 230 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 3: can store all of our feed, so that we've got 231 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 3: shelters that won't wash away because we've lost a lot 232 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 3: of shelters. 233 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, we need a barn. 234 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 2: So how do you feel about the support you've had 235 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 2: over the last few days. Is it like, obviously it's 236 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 2: so sad what's happened, But is it also like I 237 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 2: get a bit overwhelmed in my Oh my god, there's 238 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 2: some really cool humans out there. 239 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 3: There's some amazing humans out there. And you know something 240 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,199 Speaker 3: that I think is really important to remember, because. 241 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 1: We actually lost everything in the Black Saturday bush fires. 242 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 3: Is going to ask you about And when that happened, 243 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 3: I just kept walking around, going, God, we are so 244 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 3: fucking lucky that we caught in a natural disaster in 245 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 3: a first world country, because if we were in a 246 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 3: third world country, apart from the fact that there's no 247 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,439 Speaker 3: one coming, no one can afford like the donations, that 248 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 3: we are such a wealthy country. 249 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: And you know, OSI's got really good hearts too, such 250 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: good hearts. This is I got really tiary go on 251 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: a today. 252 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 2: I was just I was literally driving to town and 253 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 2: I was like, I'm so happy to be in Aussie 254 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 2: right now. I live half in America, and I'm like, 255 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 2: it doesn't fit the energy. It feels really different, Like 256 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 2: we're scrappy fuckers and we just get shitped done and 257 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 2: there's this real comrader. I don't know what it is, 258 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 2: but it made me go love ossies. Yeah, just seeing 259 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 2: like and I think it's seeing the mud army. I 260 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 2: think it's seeing people giving a shit. There's just about strangers. 261 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 3: Everyone doing everything for everyone. It's just it's, yeah, it's extraordinary. 262 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 1: Can you share a little bit about what happened in 263 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: the fires, because that was I remember, Yeah, that was massive. 264 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 3: Our eldest daughter was two, she just turned two. We 265 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 3: were in King Lake. We were the last house on 266 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 3: a road called Pine Ridge Road. 267 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: Let's still get teary talking about it. 268 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 3: Actually there were eighteen houses on our road and twenty 269 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 3: four people died. 270 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 1: I don't know how we got out. 271 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 3: It's a miracle because yeah, we were the last house, 272 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 3: and I still there's still gaps in our timeline where 273 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 3: we've seen, Like the ABC would report and show footage 274 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 3: of the fire and I'm like, but we were there, then, 275 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 3: how the fuck did we get out? 276 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: And we did everything wrong? You know, we left in 277 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:15,719 Speaker 1: the car. I didn't want to leave. 278 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 3: I'm a fighter, so I kept saying to my partner, 279 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 3: I'm going to stay and fucking fight, you know. 280 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 1: Hose the house down and with baby on my back. 281 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 3: But luckily, this random stranger ran down the road and 282 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 3: they said there's a fireball coming. 283 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: You've got to go. 284 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 3: And I said, are you going? And they said, yes, 285 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 3: you've got to go, and I was like, okay, so 286 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 3: we went. So yeah, So that was nuts. That experience. 287 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 2: I have to say, what's the thank you for? I 288 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 2: know that it was not fun to share. 289 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 3: Well, it's interesting because I hadn't even even heard the 290 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 3: term PTSD during the event, or it was a few 291 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 3: years later that someone said I think you might have 292 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 3: PTSD and I'm like, what the fuck's that? But you 293 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 3: know what was worse than the event, It was fighting 294 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 3: the insurance coming afterwards. 295 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 1: We fought for years. So but yeah, so people because 296 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: you lost your house totally, Yeah, we lost everything that 297 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: the house, the business, the cars, the do you how 298 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:05,959 Speaker 1: do people come back from this? 299 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 2: Because I've been listening today to people in liz More 300 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 2: and they're like, well, it's over. This is no, it's not. 301 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 2: There's the fight of spirit. 302 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. 303 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 3: I'm a real scrappy fucker more scrappiness. 304 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: I should call this episode scrappy grit. 305 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 3: I just went, you know, fuck this, this is not 306 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 3: going to break this and I'm gonna just well. I 307 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 3: was back working five days later because I had clients 308 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 3: that needed things, and I'm like, well, if I don't 309 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 3: do it, they're going to go somewhere else. And I've 310 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 3: actually got to work tonight because I've got people banging 311 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 3: on the door. 312 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: So I don't know. 313 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 3: You just take one day at a time and realize 314 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 3: that we're in a first world country, and we're incredibly lucky. 315 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 3: Something that people need to do is not have survivor guilt, 316 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 3: because I did, and that really that really handicapped me 317 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 3: because we didn't accept any help, and in hindsight, there 318 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 3: was so much free you know, psychological help and all 319 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 3: that sort of stuff, and I should have done that. 320 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: You know, it's hard to know that when you're in it. 321 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 3: Oh totally, and because you're like, oh my god, every 322 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 3: on our road died. We're so lucky, We're so lucky, 323 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 3: We're so lucky, but you forget that it was still 324 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 3: kind of a shit situation. We had nowhere to go. 325 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 3: But I think, yeah, people just need to remember that 326 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 3: they can come back from it. And sometimes it's the 327 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 3: biggest gift because sometimes what you are doing might not 328 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 3: be what you should be doing. And if you lose everything, 329 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 3: you've got the opportunity to reinvent yourself. 330 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: You've got a blank page. Oh my god, you can 331 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: we be friends? Sure, very cool. You're a very cool human. 332 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: So what talk me through the rebuilt? Like the plan? Now? 333 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: So where yeah, to day what? 334 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 2: Now? 335 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: I think it's a day eight. I feel like it's 336 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: day eight. I think so. So the first few days. 337 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 3: We're just making sure that all of the residents were 338 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 3: secure on the property because all the you know, all 339 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 3: the fencing's gone, we've lost roads and there's landslips. So 340 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 3: now we've got everyone secured except for Gemma, who seems. 341 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: To wily old lady. She'll never leave here though she 342 00:15:57,760 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: loves it here. Yeah, so get it. 343 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 3: Everyone's secure, and then now we're trying to make it safe. 344 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 3: So we're pulling out barbed wire because the horses are 345 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 3: really silly because they lost their hay feeding shelter. 346 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: There's all hay on the ground now. 347 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 3: But we looked over earlier today and Solstice was rolling 348 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 3: in it and then they saw part of the fence. 349 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: Throughout the barb wires. So we're focusing on pulling all. 350 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 3: The barb out, yeah, and the big stuff. Not sure 351 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 3: even what we're going to do. I think what we 352 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 3: really need, we might need. I don't know a land 353 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 3: care person or a bushery generator or someone who can 354 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 3: work with us and tell us the best way. Because 355 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 3: we've lost a dam, so one of the dams is 356 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 3: completely filled with rocks. 357 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: Now that's mental, Oh mental. It was the. 358 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 3: Hugest dam we'll have to have a look later, like 359 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 3: it was just I can't believe it. 360 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: And it's fully just full of rocks. It's just full 361 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: of rocks that. 362 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 3: Have come down in that torrent, come down in the 363 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 3: Lancen Army. This just all these rocks and the irony 364 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 3: of it is there was so much mud around the houses. 365 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 3: We had to go and buy gravel and I'm looking 366 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 3: at all these rocks, going, can't someone get a wheelbarrow? 367 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 3: And I tried to com a nine year old into 368 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 3: it riber with an areo, but she wouldn't do it. 369 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 3: So yeah, so secure everyone and make everyone safe. The 370 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 3: weather's been shit for them, so there's a few little 371 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 3: health problems niggling away at people. 372 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 1: So we're just keeping on top of that. 373 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 3: And then long term, just you know, we're out of 374 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 3: our depth in terms of how do you rebuild roads 375 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 3: in areas that are completely eroded. And the council, the 376 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 3: council shit. Our neighbors said that you're not allowed to 377 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 3: take any earthworking equipment anywhere near the creek. 378 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: They will find you. Really because we've said to him, 379 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: so messed up. 380 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 3: I know, And because now there's creeks where there weren't creeks, 381 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 3: So how did they even define that? And you know, 382 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 3: we've got some of our cow panels in the creek 383 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 3: and we said to him, can you grab those? And 384 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 3: he went up because we've got a real asshole of 385 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 3: a neighbor on the other side. He said, if old 386 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 3: mate sees us, he'll dob us into the council. He's 387 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 3: done it before. So we've just checked the council. 388 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 1: I have bigger problems on their hands right now. Surely, 389 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: I don't know it sees a squeaky wheel. He stop 390 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 1: bugging them until they do something that's crazy. 391 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 2: So with the like dream that you had of the 392 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 2: big barn, ye the feed and stuff, does that feel 393 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 2: like with donations like. 394 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 1: It would be possible again? I think so. Yeah. 395 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 3: So the one good thing that came out of this 396 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 3: was that we now know even in a really one 397 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 3: and a million year flood, or as long as white 398 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 3: Man's been on the land, we've never had a flood 399 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 3: like this here. We now know what the water does 400 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 3: and how far up it comes where we want to 401 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 3: put the barn. And so it was only a couple 402 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 3: of inches in that paddock. So we'll do a big 403 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 3: concrete slab which we can't do until the weather drives out. 404 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 3: And then the barn's going to have a goat and 405 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 3: sheep apartment and the goat garden and our trampoline it's 406 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 3: been fucked at home. 407 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: I think actually might we might give to the goats. 408 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:46,239 Speaker 1: I love that. 409 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 3: And then there'll be a huge hay storage on a 410 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 3: mezzanine level so that nothing will be able to get 411 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 3: to the hay, you know, rodent proof feed storage, and 412 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 3: then a stable for sick larger animals or Gemma when 413 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 3: she needs to shelter, and it will just be a 414 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 3: big walk in and out area as well. 415 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,919 Speaker 1: So in these sort of events everyone can get out 416 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 1: of the rain. Really. Yes, so good. 417 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 2: So for people listening that might be in Melbourne or 418 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 2: Sydney and they're like, okay, I want to make a difference. 419 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 2: I want to help, but I'm far away. We're really 420 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 2: trying to get mainstream media or on board and telling 421 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 2: stories like yours. So how can people get involved. I'm 422 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 2: going to put the link to your website with the 423 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 2: donate page, and also Instagram and Facebook too. Yes, so 424 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 2: basically yes, donations would be gratefully received or a registered charity. 425 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 3: Every single dollar goes to the animals. We don't take 426 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 3: any wage or anything for the humans. It all goes 427 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 3: to the animals. So yeah, so they can jump on 428 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 3: Instagram and there's links in the bio bio there or 429 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 3: our website donate there if they'd rather, just donate straight 430 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 3: into the charity account. We've got bank bank details for that. 431 00:19:56,440 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 3: And then just just sharing our page so that we 432 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 3: can build our following, because it's the grassroots rescue organizations 433 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 3: like ours that don't have big social media followings that 434 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 3: always get overlooked. Yeah, there's always a handful of them 435 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 3: that have got these big followings and everyone thinks because 436 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 3: they've got a big following, they're doing more. 437 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: But that's not necessarily. 438 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 2: Because you taught me that yesterday because I was like, 439 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 2: what about this one and what about this one? You're like, well, 440 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,199 Speaker 2: you know, because you're not You don't breed animals or 441 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 2: anything the stress no breeding yet, and you were sat 442 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 2: telling me, yessay, if you're at capacity, you will turn 443 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 2: larger animals away if you have to, because you want 444 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 2: to make the very. 445 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 1: Passionate about responsible rescuing. 446 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 3: So we our doors are closed for permanent residents, large 447 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 3: residents at the moment because we don't have the capacity 448 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 3: for them grazing in terms of grazing and that sort 449 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 3: of thing. 450 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: But we're still rehoming. 451 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 3: So even if someone is unwanted or neglected or abuse, 452 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 3: even if they're only here for a few days or 453 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 3: a week or two, then we will rehabilitate them or 454 00:20:59,040 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 3: find them home. 455 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: You were also mentioning floats yesterday, like if people, oh, 456 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: my god, that'd be amazing. 457 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 2: Dad's an equine bet and so I thought, I'm like, 458 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 2: I might call Dad's if he knows any horse mates 459 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:12,120 Speaker 2: that would have a float. 460 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, that'd be amazing. 461 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 3: That that was really really traumatizing, and you know, like 462 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 3: we wouldn't have been able to get the float out 463 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 3: for the first couple of days, but there were a 464 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 3: few instances when we could have got the float out. 465 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 3: People contacting us with cows and horses that were in 466 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 3: danger and stranded and lost and we couldn't get to them. 467 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 3: We could, we couldn't get them because we had no 468 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 3: way to get them. 469 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 2: Because cows can't swim, can they really? But horses are 470 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 2: right in water. 471 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 3: Water, yeah, they can walk in water. But you know, 472 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 3: with the floods, the Torrent like the it was so 473 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 3: extreme and you've got you know, our car went down 474 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 3: hundreds of meters. There's cars, there's trees, pieces have houses, 475 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 3: but you know there there was one beautiful girl in 476 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 3: particular that we got contacted about, and it was a 477 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 3: tenant and he got in contact with the landlord and 478 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 3: they said the cow's gone. They found the cow, they 479 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 3: got in contact with us. The landlords were happy to 480 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 3: surrender her to us because then that meant she would 481 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 3: have stayed forever. Or we've actually got a few people 482 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:20,479 Speaker 3: waiting to adopt cows. We vet them very carefully because 483 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:20,919 Speaker 3: you know, I. 484 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: Would adopt of youps. Yeah, I'm good to know. I'll 485 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 1: put you on the list, you know. 486 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 3: And we're like, oh, that's amazing if they're going to 487 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 3: surrender it, because often you'll go and rescue cows, but 488 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 3: then they go straight back to the farmer and then 489 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 3: they get shipped to a slaughterhouse. So that puts us 490 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 3: in ethically a really difficult position, like we don't want 491 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 3: the animal to suffer in the moment, but then legally 492 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 3: you've got to hand them back. So you've either got it, 493 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 3: they've got to be sort of legally surrendered to you 494 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 3: or just kind of appear and. 495 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,959 Speaker 1: Then oh that's me. I had no idea. 496 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think you were saying teaching as esay 497 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 2: about horses, how you can't go when people go to 498 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 2: get horses to stop them. You know, when horses get rescued, 499 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 2: they're bought. Sometimes we rescue. 500 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 3: Yes, So a couple of our guys came from the 501 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 3: sale yards in southeast Queensland where so many horses, thousands 502 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 3: of horses end up and they get auctioned off and 503 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 3: if there's no one there to buy them, then they 504 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 3: get bought by the doggers who are dog meat dealers. 505 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:22,959 Speaker 3: So we rescued Solstice and King Winter with half an 506 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 3: hour to spare. 507 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: We raised the money and we put money in as well, 508 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: obviously to outbid the doggers. That's how we got the boys. 509 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 2: Oh, I had no I mean i'd heard that the 510 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 2: dot that especially race horses as well, often have yucky 511 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 2: fatesy terrible Yeah. 512 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: And did you say you've rescued some Brombies. 513 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, So we've got two Brumbies rescued from the Mount 514 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 3: Ksiosco National Park where the government does aerial cullings. 515 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: So is that legit? That literally goes on. Yep, they started. 516 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 3: They they start at midnight and they shoot shoot from helicopters. 517 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 3: It's fucking disgusting. And the last big color we're going 518 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 3: to do. There was a whole one of people that 519 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 3: took them to the High Court and they stopped it 520 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 3: twenty minutes before they sort of down tools. 521 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 1: They were all there. Is it just like population controllers 522 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: that were but. 523 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 3: In America they will population controlled by aerial darting some 524 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 3: of the stallions so that they sterilize them. 525 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 1: Why the fuck we don't do that here? I don't know. 526 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,360 Speaker 3: It's really so they say alive, they just become sterilized. Yeah, 527 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 3: it's beyond cruel and so disgusting. You know, they try 528 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 3: not to think about it. 529 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: It's gross. 530 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 3: But there's these kind of renegade horse people that go 531 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 3: into the national parks and they will round up brumbies 532 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,919 Speaker 3: and rescue them before these things happen, and then they 533 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 3: end up with people like us. 534 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: So that's how the girls. Yeah, thank you for sharing that. 535 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: I had no idea until you told that. 536 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 3: So much shit that goes on that gets swept under 537 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 3: the carpet. Yeah, just kept very quiet. 538 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: Is that One of the reasons. 539 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:49,919 Speaker 2: This is going to feel a bit off topic. Is 540 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 2: that one the reasons why you choose to be vegan. 541 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 2: It's like, ethically, I want to do the best thing 542 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 2: by animals. 543 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: Always. You can't run an animal sanctuary and not be 544 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: a vegan. 545 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 2: I love I love that you're passionate about it, because 546 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 2: I'm nutritionist, so I always find it. Really I've always 547 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 2: said to my boyfriend, I'm gonna end up plant based again. 548 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: Mate. It just doesn't feel yeah, yeah, yeah, ethically. 549 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 3: You know, yeah, no, it's just you know, and if 550 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 3: you saw my kids, especially the little crazy nine year old, 551 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 3: she's as. 552 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: Strong as fuck. 553 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 3: She's got a six pack, So you know that for 554 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 3: a while there was all this crap guy around kids 555 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 3: don't grow big enough or something that I'm like, oh, 556 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 3: come see my kid, she's nine, she's got size nine feet. 557 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 2: Can That's one other thing that I'm learning really and 558 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 2: I know you'll know about it. Is it true that 559 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,439 Speaker 2: flood insurance here is really expensive? 560 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 1: Yes, So look, I don't know. 561 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 3: There's a lot of word on the street at the moment, 562 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 3: and I don't I'd actually have to verify it because 563 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 3: from I'm hearing that after the big floods in twenty seventeen, 564 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 3: particularly in Lismore. If you live in Lismore, that you 565 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 3: had to add flood insurance to your policy and it's 566 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 3: some absorbitant amount, so people aren't doing it. But I'm 567 00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 3: actually not sure if that's true. 568 00:25:59,440 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: It might be. 569 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 2: I've heard that as well, and I've heard it's like 570 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 2: crazy expensive. 571 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 572 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: Well someone's was saying thirty grand or something. 573 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I heard forty that's like, so you know, you 574 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 2: imagine what you could do with forty thousand dollars build 575 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 2: half a barn. 576 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 577 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, if you get your barn mate, 578 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, okay. So you've shared so much of yourself already. 579 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. You're very very brave, and I 580 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 2: guess scrappy, No, scrappy is great, be scrappy, but I 581 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 2: mean for people listening that may not they want to 582 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 2: support again. But I'll have all that in the show notes. 583 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 2: But like I want to know, like what makes you tick. 584 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,880 Speaker 2: I feel like you're just obviously I've seen on your 585 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 2: website it's all about kindness and like give you back 586 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,199 Speaker 2: to the animals, but like there's like a fire. 587 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 3: I want to know what you're like drive is I 588 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 3: don't know, you know, like I've worked my fucking ass 589 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 3: off in my life. I'm a bit of a workaholic, 590 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 3: which isn't great, not great for the human children. But 591 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 3: I just thought, you know, there's absolutely no point before COVID, 592 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 3: and before we got the sanctuary, you know, the business 593 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 3: was doing so well, and I'm like, I do not 594 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 3: want to be one of those fuckers that makes a 595 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 3: load of money and just buys a yacht. That feels 596 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 3: gross to me, you know, like, I want to want 597 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 3: to do something else. And my passions are animals, and 598 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 3: you know where we will never ever push veganism or 599 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 3: our ethics on anyone, but even. 600 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 1: If we can just look light a little light bulb. 601 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 3: You know, we have people coming to stay and they 602 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 3: meet they meet the Bobby cart Bobby calves, you know, 603 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,199 Speaker 3: and they realize that they're just big grass puppies. And 604 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 3: I've had so many people leave and go, I'm never 605 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 3: touching dairy again. You know, all the boys, the boy 606 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 3: calves all get killed. So but we would I'm never 607 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,679 Speaker 3: going to push my values on anyone. But there's a 608 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,959 Speaker 3: place here that people can come and learn about the 609 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 3: fate of farm animals and domestic animals and make the connection, 610 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 3: you know, so that I suppose my fire comes from 611 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 3: just wanting to do something purpose full, and that's my 612 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 3: sole purpose. 613 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: Really, where did the animal drive come from? I was 614 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 1: born with it, Yeah, yep, yeah. Since ever, like as 615 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: a karf, you would just obsessed with the animal. 616 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, my mum always said I was an animal whisperer, 617 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 3: did all sorts of weird things. You know. We'd go 618 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,399 Speaker 3: somewhere and they'd say, don't put your hand through and 619 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:18,919 Speaker 3: pat the warm bat. I'd put my hand through and 620 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 3: pat the wm bat the bat, I'd lick me or something, 621 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 3: you know. 622 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, they just I won with it, saying yesterday when 623 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 2: we left, I was like, I reckon, horses can read 624 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 2: your heart. 625 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: Oh they can? So a horse can fill your heart 626 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 1: beat ten meters away. Really yeap, Yeah, I've heard as well. 627 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 1: I was doing a photo shoot once. 628 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,479 Speaker 2: The photographer was really full on, but we were shooting 629 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 2: with horses, but the photographer was drinking and really they 630 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 2: wouldn't liked the horses didn't want to go near her, 631 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 2: and I just I wasn't. I didn't like that energy either. 632 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 2: I would just went and stood with the horses, and 633 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 2: the trainer came over to me and said, I've never 634 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 2: seen someone drop in so quick. 635 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: And I was like, what do you mean? What's dropping in? 636 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 2: Is like you just your heart beat would have lowered. 637 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 2: You're just chilling with the horses. I was like, this 638 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 2: is right, but it feels so medicinal being around the war. 639 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: They're incredibly healing animals. 640 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, and if I had two seconds, spare, I would 641 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 3: be doing equan assisted learning now because old Lady Gemmo 642 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 3: is just the most beautiful therapy horse you know. 643 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's so many studies done on kids add 644 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 2: and anxiety depression. 645 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a massive ye. 646 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 2: Just just be with them, just be you know, you, 647 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 2: my friend, are a very cool human being. 648 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: So are you, mate. 649 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 2: I fly to America in a few days. The second 650 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 2: I come back, I'm gone for six months. Second I 651 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 2: come back, I'm going to come and volunteer and just 652 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 2: hang with you and Jemmy. 653 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: Okay, we love that. 654 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 2: In the show notes, I'm going to put every way 655 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 2: that people can donate and support, and please keep sharing 656 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 2: on your socials because we want to see the barn 657 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 2: come to life. We want to see the happy animals. 658 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 2: Thank you, for everything. 659 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 1: You're so grateful, na mate, I'm the grateful one. You're 660 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: a legend. Well beautiful. 661 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 2: That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always, 662 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 2: thank you to our guests and let's continue the conversation 663 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 2: on Instagram. 664 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: I'm at Yamo Lollerberry. 665 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 2: This potty my word for podcast is available on all 666 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 2: streaming platforms. I'd love it if you could subscribe, rape 667 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 2: and comment, and of course spread the love.