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Speaker 1: Get a.

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Speaker 2: I'm Lola Berry, nutritionist, author, actor, TV presenter, and professional

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Speaker 2: overshare us. This podcast is all about celebrating failure because

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Speaker 2: I believe it's a chance for us to learn, grow

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Speaker 2: and face our blind spots. Each week, I'll interview a

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Speaker 2: different guest about their highs as well as their lows,

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Speaker 2: all in a bid to inspire us to fearlessly fail.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the podcast for the millionth time. I

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Speaker 2: think you're the most returned podcast. Guess you and Matt that's.

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Speaker 1: A bloody honor. David the Medium, Hello, Lola Berry. So

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Speaker 1: good to be joining you this morning. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: having me.

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Speaker 2: Back in Los Angeles, in the.

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Speaker 1: City of Angels. We are Los Angeles.

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Speaker 2: We sure are.

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Speaker 1: So We've just had a beautiful breaking in Brentwood. Can't

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Speaker 1: go past the Breadwoods? Yeah no, no, you suit Brentwood.

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Speaker 1: Can I say if I ever moved to La if slush,

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Speaker 1: when I will become a Brentwood local lest I can

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Speaker 1: feel and I'll be hanging with I'll be coming to

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Speaker 1: visit you. Thanks, We'll be in the same house.

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Speaker 2: Yep, I'm aha, what one or the other? My friends? Okay,

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Speaker 2: so we're in Brentwood, We've just had a beautiful, beautiful

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Speaker 2: brecky at farm Shop to anyone listening, definitely go there

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Speaker 2: for a yummy brecky or lunch or dinner. And we're

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Speaker 2: going to stay in Brentwood, David, I have two Brentwood

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Speaker 2: locations for you today where interesting deaths have occurred, murders.

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Speaker 2: One's a murder, one's well, we don't one we don't know.

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Speaker 1: Well you know, well I know, but that's part of

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Speaker 1: the Yeah, that's why.

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Speaker 2: Then we're going to do two locations in Beverly Hills.

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Speaker 2: Oh terrible, I know, that's just going to be absolutely

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Speaker 2: get over. And then we're going to do we're going

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Speaker 2: to end on Santa Monica Beach.

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Speaker 1: So last time, remember were very East.

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Speaker 2: We did a lot of Hollywood Glendale, lost few fellers,

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Speaker 2: you know, Hollywood Hills kind of vibes. This time we're

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Speaker 2: staying super west.

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Speaker 1: Just so we're going to the exclusive parts of Los Angeles.

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Speaker 2: I was going to say little the very wealthy areas today.

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Speaker 1: To have motor sid in there. It's interesting because these

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Speaker 1: areas are very wealthy, they're very safe, they're very peaceful,

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Speaker 1: very green, beautiful home. So this is intriguing I'm excited.

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Speaker 2: I feel like as well because you and I have

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Speaker 2: done quite a few pods together. It just feels so natural.

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Speaker 2: This will just feel like catching up all day as well.

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Speaker 1: We're just mates on a road trip.

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Speaker 2: So to the listener, enjoy yourself. There's some pretty big

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Speaker 2: iconic names that that will be seeing today.

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Speaker 1: Really.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know you're a pop culture king, so I

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Speaker 2: feel like you'll I feel like you'll know some of them.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, the premise of this is David knows nothing

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Speaker 2: and I just essentially take you to a location, although

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Speaker 2: you're driving today, but we get you to a location,

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Speaker 2: you know, our thing. We get out and we get

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Speaker 2: as close to the location as we can that is

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Speaker 2: obviously safe and legally respectful, and then you tell me

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Speaker 2: what you feel, and then I essentially go, this is

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So yeah, tuning in from a psychic medium perspective

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Speaker 1: to be able to feel the energy and see how

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Speaker 1: we can interpret and translate what's been shown.

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Speaker 2: And how do you feel today? Like just you do

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Speaker 2: you feel good today?

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Speaker 1: Do you feel good? Yeah? I mean breakfast was amazing

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Speaker 1: and it's always good to be back home in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 2: So I'm ready. I feel great. Nice to have your friend.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, lovely to be with you.

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Speaker 2: All right, gang tune in. Here we go five locations

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Speaker 2: and David the medium is going to just tell us

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Speaker 1: It's done. I'm about to turn on the car. We're

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Speaker 1: going to get on the road right now. Can't wait, David,

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Speaker 1: She's banged it out of the park to start with.

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Speaker 1: Take me. You've taken me to a ten out of

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Speaker 2: So as soon as you google Marilyn Monroe, this comes

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Speaker 2: up as you when it comes up as the death House.

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Speaker 2: The death house, yeah, because she actually only lived here

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Speaker 1: It's a lovely spot, so only she went off on top.

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Speaker 2: So you didn't know this when we pulled up. I

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Speaker 1: crime podcast. To tune in this David at the medium,

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Speaker 1: really interesting, when I rocked up to this house, I

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Speaker 1: felt pregnant, like I and I didn't assume that, you know,

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Speaker 2: But here's the interesting thing. There's been a huge battle

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Speaker 1: And we haven't been here that long. In cars have

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Speaker 2: one of the monuments of Brentwood. Like this is like

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Speaker 2: not monuments, but this is where a lot of people

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Speaker 1: Wow. Wild, very fascinating spot. And I'm glad that they

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Speaker 1: haven't demolished it, not only because it's a piece of

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Speaker 1: and it's in such a nice quiet area, Like why

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Speaker 2: Apparently it's worth eight point three five million. I know

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Speaker 1: That gets the blood flowing.

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Speaker 2: All It's very fascinating.

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Speaker 1: But it's interesting what you said about like that it

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Speaker 1: My instant reaction was that she didn't liberately try and

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Speaker 1: pregnant when she crossed over. That's yeah. I know there's

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Speaker 1: Or how do you feel how does the energy feel

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Speaker 1: like now here today? That's actually very peaceful, Like even

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Speaker 2: No, it doesn't feel I did say on the way here,

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Speaker 2: I was like, this first one isn't super murdery. But

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Speaker 2: The Lost Phelis Murder Mansion.

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Speaker 1: The Lost Phelis Murder Mansion. I was in that area

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Speaker 2: it is such a fascinating murder. It's called the Black

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Speaker 2: Dahlia murder, and it happened in I think the fifties

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Speaker 2: guillotine and drained all of her blood and then cut

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Speaker 2: up pieces of her body and put them around a

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Speaker 2: not saying that right word right or mannequin American?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, why so satanic.

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Speaker 2: But here's the theory that people have most of the

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Speaker 2: murders in Los Angeles, and I'm interested to chat to

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Speaker 2: of time in West Hollywood. Happen more Holywood Way, Hollywood Hills,

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Speaker 2: Like we spent a lot of time in Glendale Hollywood

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Speaker 2: Hills last time Lost Fearless, that kind of East Hollywood

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Speaker 2: kind of space. Now today we're staying more west and

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Speaker 2: this is our first location in Brentwood. Technically on paper,

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Speaker 2: not as murdery as the other ones we've been to,

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Speaker 2: or's gruesome, but still a pretty a huge figure. And

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Speaker 2: our next location, David, is also in Brentwood, So isn't

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Speaker 2: that interesting? And when we go to the next location, famously,

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Speaker 2: someone famously said nothing bad happens in Brentwood.

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Speaker 1: Well they jinxed themselves by saying that happened did that?

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Speaker 2: But my point is like it's going to be really

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't love I don't like to spend

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Speaker 1: Got a very strong intuition and gud feeling. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: Let's do it dark. Are you ready for the next

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Speaker 1: I could not be more ready. Right, Oh, the location

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Speaker 2: Actually really excited to hear what you have to say

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Speaker 1: So we are at the house where Nicole Simpson Brown

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Speaker 1: and Ron Goldman were murdered allegedly by O. J. Simpson.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and they really tried to put us off the scent,

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Speaker 2: didn't they. Because the wrong number is on like you've

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Speaker 1: Your say, yeah, they really don't want people knowing that

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Speaker 2: So it obviously happened in nineteen ninety four while ago,

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know really how long the actual trial

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Speaker 2: Or things like oh, really, so is he what's OJ's

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Speaker 1: Well? O J. I don't know whether he's actually in prison,

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. Okay, well give me, give me your best.

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Speaker 2: What do you feel? What do you believe there was.

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Speaker 1: No doubt that he murdered them. Yeah, and I think

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Speaker 2: I got a little bts of you two of you

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Speaker 2: doing that. It is fascinating. So my memory of this

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Speaker 1: And then another.

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Speaker 2: Incredible weird pop culture thing that I think you'll love

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Speaker 2: about this because you're I know you are. Just you

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Speaker 2: even read using pop culture, don't you? Sometimes pop culture

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Speaker 2: No, you don't, he's so handsome. Anyway, they lived they

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Speaker 2: also lived in Brentwood, hum and Goldie Horn right, and

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Speaker 1: Tea they would have given. Yeah, so funny. So I

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Speaker 2: So you were saying to me about the So you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So amongst the friendship groups that were friends with

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Speaker 2: And you think O J planned me it and Cole

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Speaker 1: Really, because Yeah, he had been talking for a long time,

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Speaker 2: Because it was all done in the bedroom. It all

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Speaker 1: The glove? There was like a missing glove that was

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Speaker 2: So I watched a documentary on this whole saga, or

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Speaker 1: So the Kardashians were very close with OJ and Nicole

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Speaker 1: But essentially the fact is how I used the words

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Speaker 2: So I did a little bit of googling. Simpson has

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Speaker 2: parole in twenty seventeen after serving nine years at Nevada's

436
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Speaker 2: love Stock Correctional Center.

437
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Speaker 1: Yeah, lovelocks, there's a lot around that as well, because

438
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 1: there was always the theory that the crime OJ was

439
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,880
Speaker 1: convicted of, no one would get convicted like he did

440
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:56,680
Speaker 1: in terms of the severity, So they reckon that was

441
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,919
Speaker 1: always the police's payback because it's like, well, you got

442
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:00,359
Speaker 1: away with the murder of Nicole bra so now you're

443
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:01,640
Speaker 1: going to go to jail for a very long time

444
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 1: for doing like armer robbery. Yeah.

445
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:08,880
Speaker 2: So he's he is seventy six years old today today. Yeah,

446
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 2: well not today, but like as in now he's seventy

447
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 2: how lucky his birthday. And he was an NFL legend,

448
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 2: like back in the day, day before all this murderroo.

449
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, the eighties and the nineties O J. Simpson. And

450
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,439
Speaker 1: he was an actor as well. Yeah, he was in

451
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,639
Speaker 1: a great movie called Taran Inferno.

452
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,880
Speaker 2: Well apparently months ago, Tarring Ferno, great movie.

453
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 1: But I.

454
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Speaker 2: Undergoing treatment for prostate cancer, Denis rumors of hospital care, okay, hospicecare. Okay, wow,

455
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 2: So fascinating.

456
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:43,399
Speaker 1: Very cool spot.

457
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 2: All right, we're about to get a little darker. We're

458
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Speaker 2: going to a very interesting murder site that has been

459
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 2: fun to deep dough. Not fun, but you know, interesting,

460
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,720
Speaker 2: fascinating word.

461
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 1: Fun so I think Lola's got a bit of a

462
00:23:58,440 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 1: dark sign.

463
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 2: Everybody, all right, So we are heading now to the

464
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 2: infamous Beverly Hills.

465
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:10,159
Speaker 1: A very trashy, dark ghetto, if one will Hills. Beverly

466
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,199
Speaker 1: Hills is a terrible neighborhood. There is a very good

467
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 1: looking topless man that just jogged past us.

468
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 2: Oh I missed, well, I'm seeing the behind. Oh yeah, nice, nice.

469
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Speaker 1: Welcome to Brentwood. Yeah all right, well let's go to

470
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Speaker 1: one of the most dangerous places in Los Angeles, Beverly Hills.

471
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Speaker 2: For those listening that have never been to Beverly Hills,

472
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:26,959
Speaker 2: it is not a getta.

473
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,440
Speaker 1: It is probably one of the nicest places on the place.

474
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:30,879
Speaker 2: It's super well, it's got do you know, it's got

475
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 2: its own police protection separate like Brentwood has one.

476
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,159
Speaker 1: To all the rich, all the all the neighborhoods in

477
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 1: West Los Angeles, they all have their own police forces

478
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 1: and private security. Yeah, fascinating. Beverly Hills is a lovely neighbor.

479
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,920
Speaker 2: I believe I saw you were having a little bit

480
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 2: of lunch at Beverly Hills Hotel just.

481
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:53,640
Speaker 1: Yesterday when in Rome. Yeah, yes, so the Beverly Hills

482
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 1: hotel is a lovely, historical, famous life. I always think

483
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,719
Speaker 1: of the palms, those beautiful palms. Oh, it's a beautiful hotel,

484
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,119
Speaker 1: and the Polo Lounge is very well known for celebrity spotting. Now,

485
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 1: unfortunately I didn't see anyone.

486
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,400
Speaker 2: But you have to see Lana del Ray one day.

487
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 2: I feel like it's your hero. I have Oh my god,

488
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 2: I'd love to see Lana Delray. But Elon Musk goes

489
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 2: to the Beverly Hills Hotel. He's been spotted there. My

490
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 2: good friend Molly has seen Elon Musk, whoa doctor Phil

491
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 2: is of course Dr Phil so.

492
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 1: Lovely nepe Beverley Hills. Obviously, I'm being very silly when

493
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 1: I say it's to get because I just thought.

494
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,400
Speaker 2: To the listeners, like people that have never been here,

495
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:31,880
Speaker 2: I'm like, don't be afraid of Beverly Hills.

496
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 1: It's beautiful. Yes, you don't have to worry. It is

497
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 1: probably one of the nicest places on the planet.

498
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 2: Yeah true, All right, let's do it.

499
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Speaker 1: Let's drive for Beverly Hills.

500
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Speaker 2: Okay, David, I have brought you to the place I'm

501
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,439
Speaker 2: probably most excited to talk to you about. And I

502
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 2: shouldn't say murder and excitement in the same sentence. But

503
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. You're excited by murder, that's

504
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 2: what you mean.

505
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:55,919
Speaker 1: No, I get what you mean. You've done a lot

506
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 1: of research on this, Solola, and I know that you're

507
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,119
Speaker 1: so to share with me where we are.

508
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 2: So tell we as we were parking what you just said.

509
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 1: So, this location is in Beverly Hills on Bedford Drive,

510
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,640
Speaker 1: which is a very iconic streets in Beverly Hills because

511
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,360
Speaker 1: it has those really tall palm trees and it's beautiful

512
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 1: homes and everything. This house that we are currently parked

513
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 1: right out the front of, it's like colonial vibes a right,

514
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 1: It's beautiful American colonial, stunning. Yeah. I was only here

515
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 1: yet less than twenty four hours ago, a few houses down,

516
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 1: taking my iconic Beverly Hills, La California pictures. And now

517
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 1: I'm here less than twenty four hours later, basically parked

518
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 1: in really the same position for you to tell me

519
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 1: a murder. This is why the places in Beverly Hills

520
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 1: as well. We came to this streets less than twenty

521
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: four hours ago, and now I'm sitting there.

522
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, that's got to be a sign that's got

523
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 2: to be a good sign. I'm taking that as a

524
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:55,640
Speaker 2: rip a sign.

525
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: But the universe is like bro Lawla's got something very

526
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 1: very cool and everything's lining.

527
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 2: So a murder dig take place here in this beautiful

528
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 2: colonial style house, wonderful in nineteen fifty eight.

529
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 1: Oh wow, it doesn't look that old. I guess it does.

530
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 2: Actually, I get yeah, no, you're right, it does fit

531
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 2: like it does. Like you can totally google this house

532
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,360
Speaker 2: after and it's actually if you ever are in La

533
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 2: and want to see a murder place, it's really good

534
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 2: because you can get up really close, you can go

535
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,159
Speaker 2: knock on the door, and there's literal books that have

536
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 2: been written about what went down here.

537
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,360
Speaker 1: Really, there's a lot of stabbing. Is that what you say?

538
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 1: Is that what you're feeling? Well, I just feel I

539
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: mean it's obviously we're doing a true crime murder podcast obviously,

540
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:41,679
Speaker 1: but there's a lot of blood. There's a lot of

541
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 1: just yeah, right, right, yeah, that's nights. I can feel it.

542
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 1: I can sort of sense and feel like a lot

543
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 1: of stabbing. It's not like one stab there's like dozens.

544
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,640
Speaker 2: Like oh okay, okay, you are going to flip. Okay,

545
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 2: So first of all, this was the residence of a

546
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 2: famous Hollywood starlet called Lana Turner. I know. So that

547
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 2: was another reason why I thought you would love this

548
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 2: for you because I don't know how much is that anyway,

549
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 2: So in the like forties and fifties, she was.

550
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,360
Speaker 1: The girl of Hollywood.

551
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 2: She was in movies like Madam X, which is Brew Sheba.

552
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 2: So we wouldn't won't know these because we weren't even

553
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 2: close to being born at this stage.

554
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: Were young guns.

555
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 2: We are young guns, we are. But in her time,

556
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 2: she was one of the highest paid female actors.

557
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 1: Of her time in the forties.

558
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, forties and fifties, and I think some of the

559
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 2: from what I read, she was getting paid like in

560
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 2: the day, like something like fifty million or something crazy,

561
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 2: which now would be close to like eighty or ninety million,

562
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 2: So she'd be like a scarlet Johansson vibe on the payroll.

563
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 1: Vibe even old Julia Roberts.

564
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, So she was day eating.

565
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: This mobster good, my kind of girl.

566
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 2: His name is Johnny Stompanto, and he was the bodyguard

567
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 2: for Micky Cohen, who was an iconic big like no

568
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 2: like mobster like King of the Mobsters. Of that era

569
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 2: in time, so he was the bodyguard of him. They

570
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 2: had been like on and off dating for quite a while.

571
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 2: Now at this stage, Lana Turner has a fourteen year

572
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 2: old daughter and really she's really close with her mum

573
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 2: that she called that, the daughter obviously calls gran. And

574
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 2: on this night, April fourth, nineteen fifty eight, she's tried

575
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 2: to end it with the mobster guy Johnny April four.

576
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: By the way, that's today, No, it is, we are here.

577
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 2: So what's so nineteen fifty eight to today?

578
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: We are here?

579
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 2: How many years later? Doing this pod much for me?

580
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: Mate? Sixty? No? Wow?

581
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 2: So sixty I had no idea that that was the date.

582
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:10,959
Speaker 1: Today is the anniversary of her murder. Today, So I

583
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: hear if you say Lana turned her into the mirror

584
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: three times she appears ying my.

585
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 2: Just on my face like that. So here's the twist.

586
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 2: She didn't die sixty six years ago. By the way,

587
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 2: sixty six isn't like six and six sixty six six

588
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 2: the devil number. Okay, So here's here's here's the story.

589
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 1: You just dropped a big bomb there and I just

590
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 1: heard it again in my head. So she didn't die.

591
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 1: She did not die. Okay.

592
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 2: So she tried to end it with Johnny, this big

593
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 2: mobster guy or the bodyguard to Mickey kahent never going

594
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 2: to win well, and he's like, fuck it. He literally

595
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 2: said I am going to dismember you, your mom and

596
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 2: your daughter, like that's happening now. And he said, I'm

597
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 2: going to chop you off. I'm gonna do all these things. Meanwhile,

598
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 2: the daughter is upstairs in her bedroom hearing this fighting

599
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 2: going on. She's fourteen years old. She's studying for like

600
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 2: her midterms, and so she's like, oh, shit's going down.

601
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 2: So the daughter runs down to the kitchen and so

602
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 2: the fight started downstairs and then they moved upstairs to

603
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 2: the far left. Let me check its far left or

604
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 2: far right. I've got it written here.

605
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

606
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 2: So she's studying in her bedroom for a term paper. Okay.

607
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 2: So the far left bedroom is where the mum's bedroom was,

608
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 2: So the daughter is in one of the other bedrooms

609
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 2: up the top. They started fighting downstairs while the daughter

610
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 2: was upstairs in her own bedroom, and then the fight

611
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 2: moved to the mum's bedroom. So the daughter runs downstairs

612
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 2: to the kitchen grabs a knife. The daughter, the fourteen

613
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 2: year old okay, And then the fighting is going on

614
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 2: still in the mum's bedroom far left, and the daughter's like, well,

615
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 2: fuck it, I've got a knife.

616
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: Her name's Cheryl, the daughter. She's got a knife.

617
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 2: She's like, maybe I can scare him, you know, like

618
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 2: when you think you can stick up. The mum opens

619
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 2: the bedroom door, this mobster Johnny goes for her like,

620
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 2: swipes at the mum.

621
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: Mom gets out of the way.

622
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 2: The daughter is standing there with a knife and he

623
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 2: essentially like lands on her knife and dies minutes later.

624
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: Good. So I think she must have got him in

625
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: the heart. She must have definitely hit an artery.

626
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 2: She's written a book. The daughter has written a book

627
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 2: about this. Cheryl a fourteen year old. So she it

628
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 2: got They called it justifiable homicide. So she got no

629
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 2: no murder charge, no nothing. Yeah, But isn't it fascinating

630
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 2: that he was like going, I'm gonna I'm gonna chop

631
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 2: you all up. I'm gonna shop chop the your mom up,

632
00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 2: I'm going to chop your daughter up. And it was

633
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 2: the fourteen year old daughter this day, sixty six years ago,

634
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 2: that as the door opened, he went to strike the

635
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 2: mum and ended up like the daughters with the fucking

636
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 2: kitchen knife was right there.

637
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: Wild. My instant reaction is that the daughter. I think

638
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: they've claimed defensive homicide. I think the daughter deliberately stabbed him.

639
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, well this is apparently they've been fighting for months,

640
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 2: like on and off again, so the daughter's seen him

641
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 2: like threaten her, probably more than one.

642
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: It's still defensive homicide in that sense. But I don't

643
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: think he landed on the knighte. I think she put

644
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: the knife in him. Yeah.

645
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 2: Well, this is of course again what's come out in there.

646
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 2: How fascinating And like you said, she probably he's a

647
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 2: big guy. She's a fourteen year old girl. Yeah, she's

648
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 2: gonna have to really go for it. And apparently he

649
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 2: looks her in the eyes and says, look.

650
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: What you've done. So he even blamed her when she yeh,

651
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: when she killed him, honey man, And you don't think

652
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 1: of fourteen year old has been called ryl. Just on

653
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 1: a side note, well this happened in the fifties. Yeah,

654
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 1: but that's the thing. You just assume al Cheryls were

655
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: born at sixty five years old.

656
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 2: So far so it all happened there. David far left side.

657
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: For everyone listening at home. We are looking at this house.

658
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: I could walk up to that window in like twenty seconds. Yeah, yeah,

659
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: far left, Yeah, second level. All the bedrooms are on

660
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 1: the second level. Yeah.

661
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 2: My question to you is, how would you feel if

662
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 2: you lived here? Like, would you ever go into a

663
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 2: house where something or live in a house where something

664
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 2: like this has gone down? I'd want a pretty hefty

665
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 2: discount if I'm honest. Yeah, well, you could probably swing

666
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 2: it with the real estate agent. But I think the

667
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 2: everything does leaving energy in print.

668
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: You said that last time. Yeah, so even though this

669
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 1: happened sixty six years ago, the energy of it is

670
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: still there. But I don't doubt at the same time

671
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 1: that they've also worked on energetically clearing, like you know

672
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: Sage or Polo Santa or even sort of more ritualistic

673
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 1: sort of exercises that can really clear energy. For me personally,

674
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: I wouldn't really have an issue living there bother you,

675
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 1: but it would probably psych me out because my mind

676
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,800
Speaker 1: would constantly think of it. But the energy itself wouldn't

677
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 1: be harmful. But if everyone's like, hey, Dave, do you

678
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: want to live in Bedford driving Beverly Hills, I'd be like,

679
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: there could be a murder last week and I'd still

680
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: probably live in the house in Beverly.

681
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 2: Hey, you're right, multiple stab wounds, yes, stabbed to death,

682
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 2: yeah she did.

683
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, there we go. So there you go, ladies and gentlemen.

684
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 1: I did not know that, but yeah, just my instant

685
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:27,959
Speaker 1: reaction was looking at that bedroom, looking at that house.

686
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: Cheryl went him. Yeah, but it's still defensive homicide because

687
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: she can definitely claim that her life was at risk

688
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 1: and the life of others was being severely threatened by

689
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: the sounds of it. Anyway.

690
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 2: So so here's the thing her mum, Lana Turner, had

691
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 2: said that day to Cheryl Crane. She was like, I'm

692
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 2: ending it tonight and so the door, Yeah, she knew.

693
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: I think there's a big undercurrent here as well.

694
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 2: I think when he came over later that day, a

695
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 2: verbal fight ensued, and by the time the police arrived,

696
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 2: the lifeless body of Johnny Stempanto lay on the floor

697
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:07,879
Speaker 2: in a pool of.

698
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 1: His own blood. I'm actually going to go as far

699
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:14,399
Speaker 1: to say I think Lana was probably holding the knife

700
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 1: at one point.

701
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 2: You reckon it says it happened with a butcher's knife.

702
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and maybe because of her career, they can't be

703
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: like Lana, and the.

704
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 2: Kid was underage, so they're going to get off. Yeah,

705
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 2: I think, because it says the underrage. Cheryl Crane admitted

706
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 2: to the stabbing and was tried and found innocent with

707
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 2: justifiable homicide, but doubts have lingered over what exactly happened

708
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 2: that evening at Lana Turner's home.

709
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: The more that I'm energetically tuning into it, I've even

710
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 1: my whole viewpoint of it is evolving. At the same time,

711
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: the more I sort of connect with it, I still

712
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: think Cheryl old made Cheryl was involved in some ways,

713
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 1: but yeah, wouldn't surprise me if Lana maybe had the

714
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: first stab. Yeah. Well, I mean, and because of her

715
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: career or because of who she is, they can't be

716
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 1: like her.

717
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that makes sense. And because the kid's so young,

718
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 2: it's a good cover up.

719
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good cover up. She's protecting their mother.

720
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: She's obviously not going to get charges adult, even if

721
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:16,760
Speaker 1: there was charges of not having defensive lives. So anyway,

722
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:21,439
Speaker 1: well that's a location. Yeah, it's very fascinating.

723
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 2: Isn't it.

724
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: Let's go knock on the door and see there's.

725
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 2: A third chirp and on the little balcony there, So

726
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 2: you wouldn't have a problem. Do you believe that, like

727
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 2: in a scenario like this, could energy stay in the house.

728
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 1: It would be very heavy in there, I imagine as well,

729
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: especially because the relationship ended so tumultuously, and obviously would

730
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 1: have been quite tumultuous before that as well. So everything,

731
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: as we said, leaves and energetic imprints, our emotions, our

732
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 1: feelings get soaked into the environments, positive and negative. So

733
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: but I also think sixty six years later there's been

734
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: other families in there, their own drama would be in there.

735
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: Oh wow, No, so it would be a bit of

736
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: a build up, But I also doubt. I mean, this

737
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,879
Speaker 1: is Los Angeles, after all, they'd be sage and they'd

738
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 1: be energetic clearings up constantly. Beverly Hills as a neighborhood

739
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: as a very centered, peaceful vibe to it.

740
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can feel it like we're looking at a

741
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 2: beautiful palm line street across there. You've got like the yeah,

742
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,879
Speaker 2: it looks stunning. This tesla is every second place you go.

743
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 1: I mean it is a very visually stunning neighborhood as well,

744
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: and very wealthy, but it's just also got a very

745
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: calm energy to it.

746
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

747
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: West Hollywood is very yeah, and that's it's very green

748
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: and West Hollywood is very wealthy and safe, but it's

749
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: also very very dark.

750
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 2: Ye, not calm, No, not at all halmness. It's like

751
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 2: some places we were checking out and these you remember

752
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,720
Speaker 2: you visited me when I lived in Los feelers, although

753
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 2: there's like some darker energy stuff from the fifties and

754
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 2: sixties and seventies. Murder wise, it feels very creative there.

755
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: Lost feelings for me. Really, like a lot of Los

756
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: Angeles has have a very dark undercurrent to it. It

757
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: does to you. To me, I was a bit on

758
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: edge in line, but it is a very.

759
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 2: We went to quite an iconic murder house as well,

760
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 2: the Haunted one. Yeah, with hello, it is like the

761
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 2: Haunted one, and you jumped. You didn't jump, but you

762
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 2: were like you went over the fence and took videos. Remember,

763
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 2: like right you were leaning over.

764
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 1: The top of the hill. Yeah, those were the days.

765
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 2: Now are you ready for another Beverly Hills location?

766
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 1: Wait, let's go Rightio, I feel like we're at location

767
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 1: four now we are. We're still in Beverly Hills. Yes,

768
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 1: you've taken me to another iconic spot.

769
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 2: Well you knew it was iconic. I did not.

770
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 1: So where are we? We're at the Greystone Mansion or

771
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: Greystone manor yeah you will.

772
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 2: Built in nineteen twenty eight, so it was built for

773
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 2: his son Edward Ned Dohenny Junior or Doheny would that

774
00:39:55,880 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 2: be linked to the street with the same name and

775
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 2: his young family. On February sixteenth, nineteen twenty nine, Ned

776
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 2: and his close friend and sometimes a sometimes assistant, Hugh Plunket,

777
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 2: were found dead in a guest bedroom of the mansion.

778
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: I already know what's going on there. What do you reckon? Guy? Lovers?

779
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 2: Do you reckon? It's the theory is the question is

780
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 2: was it a suicide packed or murder?

781
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 1: Suicide?

782
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 2: Two murders or was it at least one debt? Was

783
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 2: one of the deaths accidental? Nobody knows. The investigation was

784
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 2: murky from the start. There were motives galore these This

785
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 2: Dohani family had been tainted by political corruption and scandals

786
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:50,359
Speaker 2: in the twenties. There was also innuendo that the two

787
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 2: men were the lovers.

788
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 1: Really, yeah, here we go, both all right? They I

789
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 1: think they were undercover lovers, and I think someone's murdered

790
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: them both. I actually think there's a third party involve dear.

791
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 1: Oh really, yeah, I don't think I was a murder

792
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: of suicide or an accidental death. I think someone's actually

793
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 1: killed them both.

794
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 2: From like just because of how famous the family was,

795
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 2: or like a jealous person.

796
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 1: Probably because of how famous the family was, but it

797
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: could also be the image. Maybe they don't want to

798
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: gay son in the nineteen twenties. Oh wow, especially the

799
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: family's well known. Oh my goodness, I'm not you know,

800
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: the family ordered to hit on them, but I think

801
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: something it's definitely going on there. But as we were talking,

802
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: I was imagining that TV show, the assassination of Yeah,

803
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: beautiful show, all sad but beautiful. You're a really intermurdered

804
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 1: stay on you, beautiful show, beautiful show.

805
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 2: Well, No, I love I followed one of the actors

806
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 2: on there for ages, and also like as far as

807
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 2: followed his work and he came and taught at my school.

808
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 2: But also I love Ryan Murphy's stuff, and his stuff

809
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 2: is always dark.

810
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: Yeah true, I didn't know that. I'm and green, Yeah,

811
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: but you would know. He does American horror stories.

812
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 2: Director creator, and he did the oj Simpson Diaries show

813
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 2: as well, So I think he just loves Hollywood horror

814
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:08,800
Speaker 2: on trend.

815
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, you've I'm picturing that. It's the element

816
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 1: of gay jealousy essentially. So I think the The Sun

817
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 1: and Old Mates Hue was yeah huge. I think they

818
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: were enrolld romantically and I think someone's killed them for it.

819
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 2: That's so sad tragic. Yeah, And it says here. Now

820
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:31,919
Speaker 2: it's owned by the city of Beverly Hills and it's

821
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:36,800
Speaker 2: often rented as a film location, as the Greystone Mansion

822
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 2: has symbolized Los Angeles wealth in an endless roster of

823
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 2: movie classics like The Big Lebowlski Lebowski, And there's a

824
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 2: shot of it being used in The Big Lebowski there

825
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 2: just showing David a photo here, that's the pool. That's

826
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 2: from one side of the pool, is it? He's like, No,

827
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 2: they're filmed selling sunset there have they? Then?

828
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 1: Oh? Here?

829
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 2: So maybe that that but says that they feel to it.

830
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:07,439
Speaker 2: All right, I got my facts wrong.

831
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 1: It would have been maybe the same I was gonna

832
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: say the same architect, but it wouldn't. So the architect

833
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 1: of that other picture do you know about him. He's

834
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: the famous architect.

835
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,320
Speaker 2: Is he the artist one that's got heaps of different

836
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 2: properties here?

837
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think so.

838
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they almost feel a bit like Egyptians, Like

839
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 2: the art feels kind of like a lot of like

840
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 2: sand brickwork. Yeah, I've seen, I've seen, I know who

841
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 2: you're talking about. Okay, we've definitely digressed. But so this

842
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 2: was ned Doheeney and who plunk it? And they were

843
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 2: both murdered together or suicide beds sounding like murder.

844
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no suicide energy involved in this.

845
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 2: What what does it feel like? What can you explain

846
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 2: the difference in the energy and what it feels like suicide?

847
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: It's just a bit sort of heavier and a bit

848
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 1: sort of more sad, Yeah, whereas this actually feels darker,

849
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,320
Speaker 1: sort of deliberate. Oh wow when we're talking about it.

850
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 2: Wow, soaking of dark. We're going to end on one

851
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:06,839
Speaker 2: of the darkest murder stories ever. We're about to head

852
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 2: to the beach in Santa Monica. Wowa Davids getting like,

853
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 2: where are you taking.

854
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: This murders on the beach? Well, it was.

855
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 2: A moving murder location, but the beach is where people

856
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 2: were picked off. Wow, let's go okay, strap in Okay, David,

857
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 2: we're in a notorious like hot spot. We're in, Like

858
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 2: you don't you don't think murder when you think Santa

859
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:39,720
Speaker 2: Monica appears?

860
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 1: Do you think Twain? Usually? Why do you think that

861
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 1: sung on the Santa Monica Cry one of them?

862
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 2: Matt keeps seeing this Santa Monica song by Savage Garden

863
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 2: and he says it like everyone should know it.

864
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: I was like, I didn't know. None of us know it,

865
00:44:58,160 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: none of us.

866
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 2: So the this is of all the murders today that

867
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:09,399
Speaker 2: we have been on, they've kind of been one single incident. Yes,

868
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 2: we are talking serial killer here.

869
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 1: This is heavy.

870
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 2: Can you feel that?

871
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean, as you mentioned, when you think of

872
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: Santa Monica, you don't think of murder because it's a

873
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: very beautiful beachside location, very scenic, very clean, a bit

874
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: of a homeless issue, but that's la for you. But

875
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: you don't think serial killers on the boardwalk.

876
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 2: In the seventies there were two guys and together they

877
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 2: were called the Toolbox Killers.

878
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 1: Oh I go creepy, No, that already sets me on edge.

879
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 2: So basically, these two guys met in prison, so they've

880
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 2: been to prison for other reasons, not murder, like theft

881
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. Right, Yeah, they meet in prison

882
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 2: and they figure out they've both got a bit of

883
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 2: a fetish for I think, raping women and later down

884
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 2: the track murdering them.

885
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 1: So they teamed up. Yeah, that conversation.

886
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 2: Ah, so here's the thing, like it's really messed up,

887
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 2: super dark, and they wanted teenage. I remember when I

888
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 2: read about this, I was so scared and then I

889
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 2: was like, oh, you've aged out, Lola, don't worry because

890
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 2: it was they It was teenagers from the ages of

891
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 2: thirteen to nineteen. They had to have a teenager of

892
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 2: every year every year, like as in a thirteen year old,

893
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 2: of fourteen year old, fifteen year old, sixteen year old

894
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 2: wild So they would where we are parked right now.

895
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 2: They would accost girls on the Santa Monica Boulevard and

896
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 2: Venice Boulevard as well. Yes, and they had a van

897
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 2: that they called the Murder Mac. Murder Mac was what

898
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:59,919
Speaker 2: they nicknamed their nineteen seventy seven GM cargo van. They'd

899
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 2: bring the girls. They'd like somehow coax the girls into

900
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 2: the van, whether it's like you need a lift, that

901
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 2: kind of things of that nature, and then they'd kind

902
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 2: of go out into different kind of like more mountainous areas,

903
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 2: so more like where we went last time we did

904
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 2: the murder pod, so more into the hills, and they

905
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 2: would rape them then torture and murder them only using

906
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 2: the things from their toolbox, like an ice pick, pliers.

907
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 2: Brutal right, very dark, super super dark. The craziest thing

908
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 2: about all this is there were two men, right, so

909
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 2: one of them is called Roy Norris, I'm pretty sure,

910
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 2: and the other one is Lawrence Bittaker. And Norris later

911
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 2: kind of like got he got taken to jail for

912
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 2: something right, for something else, and he told another inmate, hey,

913
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 2: this is what this is what Lawrence Bitticker and I

914
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 2: got up to. Lawrence Bitticker is still free at this stage, okay.

915
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 2: And the the other person that he was incarcerated with

916
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 2: got such hebgb's that he turned in Raisin, and then

917
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 2: Norris turned on Bitteca wow and basically said, I'm a

918
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 2: moment star, I've done all this terrible stuff. Bitteka was like,

919
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 2: oh nah, I was only bad for three months of

920
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 2: my life.

921
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,280
Speaker 1: So they went on a killing spree for three months

922
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: and then where he just went back to normal, normal living. Wow.

923
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 2: Right, I can tell you so much about this, But

924
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 2: how does that make you feel like? Knowing that and

925
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 2: being where like these poor young girls I want to say,

926
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,399
Speaker 2: I don't even feel like there were women yet, No,

927
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:43,879
Speaker 2: they're not.

928
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 1: If they're thirteen, And how does that make you feel

929
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: like being in this? Like?

930
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:53,879
Speaker 2: You know, I've heard you talk about Los Angeles having

931
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 2: kind of a dark underbelly a bit, and I feel

932
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 2: like this murder story is.

933
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: That. I think it really is. I'm going to say something.

934
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: I think for a lot of people, maybe for every

935
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 1: single person, the darker sort of thoughts, the darker taboos

936
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,280
Speaker 1: or fantasies in some ways, even by using these guys

937
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:18,399
Speaker 1: as a perfect example, is brought out by the energy

938
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 1: of Los Angeles. Really, like, I think it's a very

939
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 1: good healing space to really amalgamate that darker side that

940
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 1: all humans have, because we are dark in lights. I mean,

941
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: that's the thing. But obviously some are far darker and

942
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 1: far wrong and evil than others. But I think the

943
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 1: energy of this city, it really can bring that to

944
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 1: the surface, either to heal and clear or to completely

945
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:46,800
Speaker 1: other direction and actually act on it, or to incorporate

946
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 1: it as part of your dominant traits or whatever it

947
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: may be.

948
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:51,800
Speaker 2: It's like you and I were saying, we were talking

949
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 2: about la As totally not linked to matter at all,

950
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 2: just like the energy of la And I was like,

951
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 2: I always say that it's like a brutal, beautiful beast,

952
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 2: and you said, well, yeah, it has to be brutal

953
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 2: to weed out people that.

954
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 1: Can't really hack it or I'm meant to be here.

955
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm meant to be here. And it's interesting to

956
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,760
Speaker 2: hear you now talk about that in a much darker sense,

957
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 2: which is like the energy can either activate already existing

958
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 2: darkness within you.

959
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 1: Well, I think with everyone that brings it to the

960
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:25,320
Speaker 1: surface regults of what it is. Yeah, whether it's personal,

961
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: the ways that you react around other people. Yeah, yeah,

962
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,879
Speaker 1: it's a very interesting vibe. But yeah, la As we

963
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 1: were talking about privately before, it is a city that

964
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 1: is designed to break you were designed to weed out

965
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 1: those that maybe are a bit of a loss soul.

966
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:42,479
Speaker 1: And you know, I know we've talked about this before

967
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 1: and I think we even talked about on the other

968
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 1: podcast we did together, But it is the city of

969
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 1: lost souls in a lot of ways, because people come

970
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 1: to La especially in entertainment industry, they wanted to make it,

971
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:56,280
Speaker 1: They wanted to create. Like, there's a lot of people

972
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 1: that maybe don't also have purpose that come here is

973
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 1: a city where you need to have a purpose. You

974
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 1: have to. Yeah, if you come here and you don't

975
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 1: have the purpose, it will show you up, spit you out,

976
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:07,879
Speaker 1: and send you home. Yeah.

977
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so many actors have warned me about that.

978
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:14,240
Speaker 2: They're like, come here, clear, like come here ready, because

979
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,240
Speaker 2: you do have to sit in a bit of fire

980
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 2: to get to where.

981
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 1: You want to go.

982
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 2: I don't think anyone gets skip that face. You were

983
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 2: in the fire last time, you were in Los.

984
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:26,720
Speaker 1: Angeles, very in the fire. And I made the mistake

985
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 1: of coming here with that purpose. Oh you said that

986
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 1: to me and Alie know, for anyone that knows me,

987
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 1: I do call it my second home. In a lot

988
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:38,280
Speaker 1: of ways, I feel more comfortable here than Melbourne. Yeah.

989
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 1: And I love the vibe. I mean, I love America.

990
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 1: I love the Americans that. Yeah, coming here in February

991
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three without much of a clearly defined purpose,

992
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 1: it showed me up in some ways.

993
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so fast, it's so fascinating. One thing I

994
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 2: wanted to share with you about one of the murderers,

995
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 2: the one that was like the more sociopathy, one that

996
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 2: was like, oh no, I was only bad for three months.

997
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 2: I interviewed a crime fiction author that became penpals with

998
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:09,359
Speaker 2: him in real life, and so he was like, come

999
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 2: visit me in San Quentin prison. And She's like, all right,

1000
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 2: this is fascinating. I write about murderers like this is

1001
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 2: going to be great. Canvass fox The episode is out

1002
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 2: there and I'll find out what episode it was. I

1003
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 2: listened to it whenever I'm missing the Aussie accent. She's

1004
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 2: just got such a good Aussie accent. Anyway, she goes

1005
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 2: in to visit him. You can't wear denim because their

1006
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:33,320
Speaker 2: inmate outfit is denim, so they can't see.

1007
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 1: You as equal. Yes, she walks into.

1008
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 2: A glass room with like she said, imagine like a

1009
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 2: shark cage. So it had grating around a glass, like

1010
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 2: a perspex kind of glassy room. She's like, there was

1011
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:50,320
Speaker 2: nothing between her and him. So she was in the

1012
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 2: room with him, and he walked in, and he walked

1013
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,760
Speaker 2: to the back of the grates and someone undid his cuffs.

1014
00:52:58,880 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 1: And she sat down.

1015
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 2: He goes, are you okay, and she goes, not, really,

1016
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 2: you're a tiger, you could this is and he goes, well,

1017
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 2: this is a full contact meeting. You can touch me

1018
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:13,240
Speaker 2: if you like. And she said, but what you're a

1019
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 2: rapist and a murderer, Like what if you go for me?

1020
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 2: And he said, can you see the little triangle cut

1021
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 2: out at the top where the wall meets the ceiling.

1022
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 2: He said, there's a sniper on me. He's like, so

1023
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:27,240
Speaker 2: if I do anything to you, I'll be killed straight away.

1024
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 2: And she was like, oh my god. She interviewed him

1025
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 2: about his victims and she said, well, she goes, well

1026
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:39,319
Speaker 2: what about Andrea? And he goes, oh, V three. So

1027
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 2: we couldn't name the victim. It had to be so

1028
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 2: victim three he and she said he just flipped his

1029
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 2: hand like he was flicking a blade of glass and

1030
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:51,399
Speaker 2: he at grass and he's like, oh V three. Wow,

1031
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,720
Speaker 2: if you think about how bad I was, you know, really,

1032
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 2: I've been a really great inmate. I'm really respectful. And

1033
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 2: he kind of just didn't see it, is like he

1034
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 2: didn't associate.

1035
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 1: With what he's done.

1036
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he had no remorse, whereas the other guy

1037
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 2: Norris Roy Norris had so much remorse and was like,

1038
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 2: I'm a monster, I'm a predator. I shouldn't have been.

1039
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 2: He's the one that was diagnosed because he was in

1040
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:18,839
Speaker 2: the Navy. The other one and they diagnosed him as schizophrenic.

1041
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,720
Speaker 2: But this guy was like much had much more evil

1042
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 2: and was almost she said, it was almost felt like

1043
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 2: he was sizing her up to be a girlfriend, you know,

1044
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 2: like really fascinating. And she said, we spent four hours

1045
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 2: chatting and she goes, I got hungry and so I

1046
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 2: offered to give him a snack and she was like

1047
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 2: so morally torn and she said, but I did it.

1048
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 2: And she goes, and we both love the same chips

1049
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 2: and she said, oh no, this rapist and murderer's got

1050
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 2: the same taste buds as main Ah. But fascinating that

1051
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:52,720
Speaker 2: he just had no ownership entitled.

1052
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 1: Is that what it is? It'd be thee of like,

1053
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: oh I fine, like I can do whatever.

1054
00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 2: Really, yeah, isn't that justascinating? And isn't it fascinating like

1055
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 2: that we're in such an iconic positive of like happy

1056
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 2: that there's people, there's tourists walking past with like little

1057
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:13,840
Speaker 2: kids and family and like you know, Santamoni Kapiir is

1058
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 2: something that like everyone goes to when they go to

1059
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 2: La and to things that so much darkness occurred here.

1060
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 1: Wold, isn't it wild?

1061
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 2: So what what's been your favorite of all our locations today?

1062
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 1: I just love to go into Nicole Simson Brown's house.

1063
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 1: You did, Yeah, I knew you'd love that way. I

1064
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 1: think it's and also because it was really recent as well,

1065
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 1: like even these kids were kind of nineties. Yeah, exactly,

1066
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 1: so it's very current.

1067
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 2: It's very and we had to do a bit of

1068
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 2: detective work to find the right house.

1069
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:49,479
Speaker 1: And we did. But you know, can't you can't hide

1070
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 1: from us haha. And Nola and David are on the

1071
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 1: LA Crew trime train. We sure are. Don't get on

1072
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:56,919
Speaker 1: the tracks, don't get in our way.

1073
00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:01,320
Speaker 2: I think Lana Turner's was my favorite, was because because

1074
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 2: the way there was for you for the listener, the

1075
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 2: way that David had been there twenty four hours before,

1076
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 2: not realizing we recorded sixty six years to the day,

1077
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 2: and the way that you said straight away this is

1078
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 2: multiple stab wounds and a lot of blood, and it

1079
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 2: wasn't we read the full report that we knew that to.

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00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 1: Be very fair. From a psychic medium energetic perspective, that

1081
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 1: was the strongest one. Not only just the synchronicities of

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00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 1: the dates that have been there twenty four hours beforehand,

1083
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 1: but even when we were sitting at the front, what

1084
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 1: my intuition and energy was flowing to just happened so effortlessly.

1085
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:40,319
Speaker 1: I was like, no, I'm feeling this, Okay, I think

1086
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 1: this happened. This happened. Lana's involved, like, yeah.

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00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 2: We both said this. You said this in the car.

1088
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:48,359
Speaker 2: You were like, everything's come to me so quickly today. Yes,

1089
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 2: it's been so clear with you straight away.

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00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 1: It really has. From the podcast that we did last

1091
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 1: time in twenty twenty two, we went to some great locations,

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00:56:57,719 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 1: but you really kind of had to tune in, and

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00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 1: I think we were in a environment you.

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00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 2: Remember, helicopters were circling as a one stage like it

1095
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 2: wasn't this just flowed perfectly today as wow.

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00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 1: And this was just the information came to you very

1097
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 1: very easily on everywhere we went today and the things

1098
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: that you could feel in sense and just tune into.

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00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 2: And for the listeners, I'm so proud of you. You've

1100
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 2: done your first live live. Can I say live show,

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00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 2: live event.

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00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:25,919
Speaker 1: Live show. Yeah, and I call it David the Medium

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00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 1: Live Show.

1104
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 2: And can we expect can we get a little tipp

1105
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 2: it to expect a little more of that? We're going

1106
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 2: to see more, maybe another one in Australia soon.

1107
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 1: There will definitely be some more. So I am wanting

1108
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 1: to do the Gold Coast next great, so aiming for

1109
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 1: around June, not locked in yeah, so you know, stage

1110
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 1: tuned and want to visit also Sydney and Perth and

1111
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 1: definitely do another one in Melbourne.

1112
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 2: And as soon as you've got your dates, can you

1113
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 2: send them to me so I can talk about them

1114
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 2: on the Diary pod.

1115
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 1: I would love that. Thank you.

1116
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 2: Oh, I love watching you. I was so flip and

1117
00:57:57,760 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 2: proud of you. When I saw it all unfold on

1118
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 2: I was like, he's darted, Like this is a and

1119
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 2: also like that's a lot of pressure on you too,

1120
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 2: you know, like I think you. I love that you

1121
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 2: got up there straight away and cracked a joke. Like

1122
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 2: as soon as you got up there, I was just

1123
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 2: like you just like so relaxed in that environment. Like

1124
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 2: I'm really really proud of you and it's been so

1125
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 2: nice to watch you as a friend, like over the

1126
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 2: last few years just kind of like effing blossom like,

1127
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 2: so my vote is an Americana tool one day.

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00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 1: Oh wow, you know I'm not opposed to that.

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00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd love to see that way.

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00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 1: That would be amazing.

1131
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 2: Thank you for jumping on the pod, my friend.

1132
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 1: You're wonderful for having me absolute pleasure not only to

1133
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 1: be your guest, but to get to spend the day

1134
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 1: with you again.

1135
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 2: I know, we get to spend a road trip together

1136
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 2: every time we do this, and it's been so nice.

1137
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 2: And you have driven today, so thank you so so much.

1138
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 1: Well we're equal. Now you drive, last time I drive today?

1139
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 2: All right, we are, we are And next time you're

1140
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 2: in LA, we'll have to do it again.

1141
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:00,920
Speaker 1: Well, next time we'll have a driver take us around. Ah,

1142
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 1: because let's make it do it. You're wonderful, You're wonderful.

1143
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 1: Thank you for being my friend as well. Thank you

1144
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 1: for being right back at you. Thanks Lola.

1145
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 2: That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always,

1146
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 2: thank you to our guests, and let's continue the conversation

1147
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 2: on Instagram.

1148
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:25,480
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1149
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:30,320
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1150
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:31,520
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1151
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:35,000
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1152
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:37,160
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