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<v Speaker 1>Laura and come on in.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the show. Everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>My Hi, Okay, we need to set some ground rules

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<v Speaker 1>where we're in this studio. I'm looking at you, Mitch

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<v Speaker 1>Cherry and these little iPad things that you're throwing around

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<v Speaker 1>at us.

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<v Speaker 3>Mitch walked in here with you know, those like silicon

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<v Speaker 3>iPads that you get used for under eyebags when you

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<v Speaker 3>face Juveniles's skin care.

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<v Speaker 2>You put them ner your eyes. They get rid of

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<v Speaker 2>the dark.

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<v Speaker 1>Circle cucumber ones that you put in the fridge. You

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<v Speaker 1>take out there cold, you slap them on underneath your eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>You have just flung them in our face and you

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<v Speaker 1>had food stuck under the one that hit Laura burn.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, it's one thing to wear them into the studio,

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<v Speaker 3>it's another thing to throw them at people. And also,

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<v Speaker 3>why are you're keeping your chili flakes inside your eyes?

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<v Speaker 2>A bit of a garlos, It was a bit of

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<v Speaker 2>chicken crumb under these. Sorry, I'm just trying to look

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<v Speaker 2>my best. I work with two of the most gorgeous

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<v Speaker 2>girls in the business.

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<v Speaker 1>How does one get food caught under their eye mask? Though?

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<v Speaker 2>Saving it for later, I've got a sultan under there.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a very very big show. We're talking smacking next.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh we are look, I mean controversial. Can you smack

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<v Speaker 3>your kids? And if you do smack your kids or

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<v Speaker 3>what sort of damage are you causing them?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we also need to settle an in house argument

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<v Speaker 1>that we've been having between the three of us on

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<v Speaker 1>things that you can and can't.

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<v Speaker 3>Do in front of your partner and Brett you're wrong,

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<v Speaker 3>just to get it out there before we.

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<v Speaker 2>Have that discussion.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I've ever been wrong in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah on this one, said every woman ever.

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<v Speaker 2>Today's at first with Brittany Hockley being wrong, come up

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<v Speaker 2>on the pickup or thanks to Chemists Warehouse heading today

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<v Speaker 2>Terms and conditions are pie Now.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know many parents who smack their kids these

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<v Speaker 3>days when they're misbehaving, but I do think back in

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<v Speaker 3>my day, I do think a lot of us got smacked.

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<v Speaker 5>Did you get smacked?

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<v Speaker 2>Mitch? Yeah, yeah, I definitely got smacked. I'm a gen

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<v Speaker 2>z and I got smacked.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's pretty standard really back in the day.

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<v Speaker 1>I never only really got smacked in the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're mucking up in the back of the car

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<v Speaker 1>on like a long road trip and your parents to

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<v Speaker 1>reach behind to get you on the calf muscle like behave.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, But.

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<v Speaker 5>Like I didn't get smack.

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<v Speaker 2>Smacked only on special occasions. Was I smacked?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, when you were really really misbehaving.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean we were the same that you had to

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<v Speaker 3>have done something pretty wrong, like you knew you were

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<v Speaker 3>going to get smacked. If you got smacked in our household,

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<v Speaker 3>you'd do something. You'd be like, oh, better go, that

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<v Speaker 3>one's in trouble.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh god, dad, welts on my bat. I got the

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<v Speaker 2>wooden spoon as well, did you? Yeah, yep, I did well.

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<v Speaker 3>There has been some research that's come out recently that

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<v Speaker 3>is to say that smacking children at an early age

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<v Speaker 3>it gives them more increased risk of anxiety and depression

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<v Speaker 3>later on. Now we have doctor Daryl Higgins on the phone,

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<v Speaker 3>who has actually undertaken this study, Professor doctor Darryl Higgins. Great,

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<v Speaker 3>so tell me a little bit about this research studies.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like there's probably a few parents in the

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<v Speaker 3>car who were like, oh, last night, my kids sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>when they're really naughty.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah. Look, there's actually two pieces of work that have

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<v Speaker 6>been underway. So one of them is a review of

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<v Speaker 6>literature that colleagues of mine, who are experts in parenting

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<v Speaker 6>and are part of an organization called the Parenting and

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<v Speaker 6>Family Research Alliance, pulled together the international evidence around whether

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<v Speaker 6>or not we have a case for making legislative reform

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<v Speaker 6>in Australia to ban corporal punishment. We looked at the

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<v Speaker 6>childhood experiences of a representative sample of Australian adults, and

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<v Speaker 6>the key piece of data was from the young adults

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<v Speaker 6>in that study, three and a half thousand sixteen to

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<v Speaker 6>twenty four year olds who told us about their experiences

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<v Speaker 6>not only of child moil treatment, but answered questions separately

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<v Speaker 6>around their experience of corporal punishment.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you actually found a direct correlation that these kids

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<v Speaker 1>day between sixteen and twenty four I shouldn't say kids,

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<v Speaker 1>but young adults. How do you know that there is

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<v Speaker 1>a direct correlation between their anxiety that they're experiencing now

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<v Speaker 1>and being smacked as a child. Because I feel like,

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<v Speaker 1>especially when you said the last year that we live in.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the world has endured COVID, We've got so

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<v Speaker 1>much social media pressure. How do we know that these

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<v Speaker 1>aren't the things that are contributing to anxiety and as

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<v Speaker 1>directly related to smacking as a child.

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<v Speaker 6>Because we had such a large study with three and

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<v Speaker 6>a half thousand young adults, we had a big group

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<v Speaker 6>of them who didn't experience corporal punishment four or more times,

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<v Speaker 6>and then in another group that did. And what we

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<v Speaker 6>did was compare those two groups and say do they

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<v Speaker 6>have similar rates of mental ill health? And what we

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<v Speaker 6>found was no, they don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting, but surely there's a very big spectrum, I mean

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<v Speaker 3>in terms of being smacked verse, you know, kids who

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<v Speaker 3>are experiencing horrible childhoods. I was smacked a as a kid.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't smack my kids, but I don't think that

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<v Speaker 3>it's impacted me as an adult. I don't even think

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<v Speaker 3>about the fact that I was smacked as a kid.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that's right, and absolutely there's very ability. And so

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<v Speaker 6>we're not saying that every instance of corporal punishment inevitably

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<v Speaker 6>leads to mental illness in adults. So there will be

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<v Speaker 6>plenty of people who have experienced corporal punishment who don't

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<v Speaker 6>go on to experience mental illness on average. That's the link.

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<v Speaker 6>It doubles the risk, and that's a pretty strong correlation,

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<v Speaker 6>and certainly one that's from a population perspective. If we

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<v Speaker 6>want one strategy that we could do to reduce the

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<v Speaker 6>likelihood that adults will be experiencing mental illness, we can

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<v Speaker 6>change the childhood experiences of future generations to reduce that risk.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the three of us also will all smack, but

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<v Speaker 2>we also have quite a privileged life. We do have

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<v Speaker 2>a privileged lives and we're a privileged upbringing. People who

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<v Speaker 2>aren't in a similar situation to us, who it would

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<v Speaker 2>have affected a different light, right, I mean, we were

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<v Speaker 2>all in loving homes as well as being smack.

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<v Speaker 1>You're trying to say that there are a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>other external factors that play hard.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's what it means.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I mean, how should parents DISCIPPLA and their child.

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<v Speaker 6>That's a great question, and there are evidence based off

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<v Speaker 6>and it's just smacking some of the issues that we

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<v Speaker 6>talk about, things like giving clear and consistent lids about

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<v Speaker 6>what you expect. Secondly, and this is one of the

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<v Speaker 6>most challenging is managing your own emotions. As a parent,

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<v Speaker 6>it's really easy to get caught up, and of course

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<v Speaker 6>when we love our temper, it becomes contagious, which really

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<v Speaker 6>amounts to being a good role model for your child.

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<v Speaker 6>When it comes to managing situations, well, it's really important

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<v Speaker 6>to support children in making amend, so looking at the

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<v Speaker 6>natural consequences of their behaviors and where possible, if they've

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<v Speaker 6>hurt somebody else or offended somebody else by their behavior,

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<v Speaker 6>teaching them how to be able to resolve that and

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<v Speaker 6>repair that relationship.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, thank you so much for coming on having a chat.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, look, if you're out there and you're smacking

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<v Speaker 3>your kids, there might be a better way of going about.

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<v Speaker 2>It, totally. I don't think spacking is the way, especially

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<v Speaker 2>in this day.

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<v Speaker 1>For the cake better only we've been having to be

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<v Speaker 1>of an argument here at the pickup about things you

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<v Speaker 1>should and shouldn't do in front of your partner, and

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<v Speaker 1>we all strongly disagree.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we do. We'll have that discussion next you're at

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<v Speaker 2>the pickup. It's the pick up Tuesday, are though, it's Britt,

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<v Speaker 2>it's Laura, it's Mitch, and listen, you can headed to

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<v Speaker 2>campus Squarehouse today. Great, savings every day. We're all having

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<v Speaker 2>an argument in the studio because listen, Laura and I

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm not afraid to say it, are free range farters.

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<v Speaker 1>This has come up a few times, this fighting conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not the first time it's happened. You both think

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<v Speaker 1>it is wildly okay to let one rip in front

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<v Speaker 1>of your loved ones, and.

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<v Speaker 5>I totally fine, of course it is.

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<v Speaker 1>If that ever happens to me, I'm very ill and

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<v Speaker 1>it's popped out on its own, or or I'm possibly dying.

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<v Speaker 3>When you're asleep sometimes sometimes when a little wiz pop

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<v Speaker 3>will fall out and sep.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a free for all. So Britt, why what are

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<v Speaker 2>you against? You against the actual embarrassment of it, the

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<v Speaker 2>fart of it all? Like what scares you about it?

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<v Speaker 1>If you've got far on your partner, you aretly loading

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<v Speaker 1>up a gun and shooting Pooh particles on them. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what it is, a beinging them with Pooh particles. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been with my partner Ben own pretty new, only

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<v Speaker 1>like seven months, and we are long distance, so he

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<v Speaker 1>can't see it down the phone, which is great, but

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<v Speaker 1>I will not find in front of him and he

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<v Speaker 1>will not do it in front of a out of respect.

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<v Speaker 5>But what if Ben did just that.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't want to, but you don't control his body autonomy.

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<v Speaker 3>What if he decided that he'd had enough and he

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<v Speaker 3>needed to let them run free in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>I have told him that there's all different parts of

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<v Speaker 1>a relationship, right that turn a partner off. Everyone has

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<v Speaker 1>an ick, and it's fine. I know there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people out there that think fluffing's cute. That's great,

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<v Speaker 1>but I personally don't. It is a turn off for me.

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<v Speaker 1>So if I've told my partner that and they choose

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<v Speaker 1>to ignore that, that's on them. If I get turned

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<v Speaker 1>off at the end of the day, like that's just

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<v Speaker 1>my little personal ick. Everyone doesn't have to be on

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<v Speaker 1>board with it. Am I going to break up with

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<v Speaker 1>them if they accidentally drop a bomb?

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<v Speaker 2>Knoll?

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<v Speaker 3>For what if he continued to deliberately do it against

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<v Speaker 3>your You're saying that you would become unattracted to him

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<v Speaker 3>and then maybe not want to be with him anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>I would worry that that would be the case.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeahs so extreme?

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<v Speaker 1>Also, did I mention the parts?

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go to the phones. Let's see what the opinion

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<v Speaker 2>of Australia is high staff. To fart or not to fart?

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<v Speaker 2>That is a question.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely not yes day Kay?

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<v Speaker 5>Sorry? How long have you been in a relationship.

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<v Speaker 4>For I'm not currently in a relationship, but my longest

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<v Speaker 4>relationship has been about four years.

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<v Speaker 3>So you've spent four years of no farting. God, you

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<v Speaker 3>must have had some stomach cramps.

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<v Speaker 4>I just don't feel the need and if I did,

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<v Speaker 4>then I would go to the bathroom. I just that

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<v Speaker 4>is a line I will never cross.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. So you're lying in bed with your beautiful partner

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<v Speaker 2>and you feel it. It travels from your tummy down the

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<v Speaker 2>small intestine into the butt cavity. What do you do?

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<v Speaker 2>You suck it back up? Like that's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 5>You get up and what you to.

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<v Speaker 2>Walk in pantry? Fat step?

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have to go and do it on the

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<v Speaker 1>food mits. Why are we in the pantry steph? What

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<v Speaker 1>would you do if you're in bed? You need to

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<v Speaker 1>whiz pop.

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<v Speaker 2>If there?

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<v Speaker 4>If they were asleep, I would I probably would. If

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<v Speaker 4>they were awake, I would go to the bathroom.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So what I'm understanding is that is that you guys

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<v Speaker 3>have no issue with your partner actually breathing in the smell.

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<v Speaker 3>You just don't want them to hear the sound. That's

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<v Speaker 3>what it is. If you'll do it when they're asleep,

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<v Speaker 3>then you're like whatever, min.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really smell. I'm mind not like super cute.

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<v Speaker 2>And oh I have been in a room when you fared.

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<v Speaker 2>I went home, but I was out in the car talking.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh you heard me.

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<v Speaker 3>I have actually bridged it in front of me on

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<v Speaker 3>purpose and it was not as far.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, Toby, to fart or not to fart? Tobes And

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<v Speaker 2>let me tell you, are you in the happiest relationship

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<v Speaker 2>you've ever been in? Toby? Of course he is, because

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<v Speaker 2>he farts.

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<v Speaker 5>I can hear crows in the back. Here's the aussiest

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<v Speaker 5>guy that's ever.

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<v Speaker 2>Been on the show. I know absolutely with crows. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't call this will make or break it? Kylie. To

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<v Speaker 2>fart or not to fart in front of your partner?

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<v Speaker 2>What be the question?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, for me, yes, but my mom she has spent

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<v Speaker 7>thirty years of my dad and never has in front

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<v Speaker 7>of him at all.

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<v Speaker 1>My parents my parents have been married for forty six

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<v Speaker 1>years and neither of them have ever intentionally let one

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<v Speaker 1>go in front of each other, and I applaud that.

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<v Speaker 7>Either my dad does he is a little good time,

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<v Speaker 7>and then my mom doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>And does your mom not think it's gross?

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<v Speaker 5>She always like.

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<v Speaker 7>Ew yeah, she tells him off. Yeah, and he still

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<v Speaker 7>believes that she can't. He physically can't do it.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it's an imbalance of power in that relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>In my relationship, Ben respects. I'm sure he wants to

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<v Speaker 1>let them rip, but he respects that I don't like it,

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<v Speaker 1>and he will always leave the room and I know

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to do it because he's like ducks out

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<v Speaker 1>for no reason.

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, did you just come and let one?

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<v Speaker 3>And he's like, yeah, had to, couldn't your poor partners

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<v Speaker 3>stomach pain.

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<v Speaker 2>Ben wants to do it in front of you. He's

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<v Speaker 2>just terrified. Sorry, that's the truth.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 5>It's called respect, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Next on the show, Romances are on the Rise for

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<v Speaker 2>a very good reason. All about that. Next at the

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<v Speaker 2>Pickups Mallulaa, It's the pickup Tuesday afternoon, Britt, Laura and

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<v Speaker 2>we all have a man in our life that loves

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<v Speaker 2>a bromance, Right, a bromance? You know what a bromance is?

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<v Speaker 4>What do you mean?

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<v Speaker 5>Dumb it down for us?

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<v Speaker 2>A romances two men who are a bit more than friends,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's completely platonic. They talk to each other, they

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<v Speaker 2>open up, they share love, they can gossip and which

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<v Speaker 2>stereotypically this is true. I don't think it's right men

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<v Speaker 2>struggle to open up about their emotions. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 2>the old stereotype that you know, women are great gay

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<v Speaker 2>men are great at talking about their emotions and talking

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<v Speaker 2>to friends as support networks, but men often bottle it

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<v Speaker 2>all up inside, which is on a serious note, contributes

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<v Speaker 2>to why there are such high rates in men's mental

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<v Speaker 2>health being really bad.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think for me, Matt, my husband, he's just

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<v Speaker 3>gotten into a brand new bromance and now I barely

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<v Speaker 3>ever see him with his new best friend all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Ashwicks still haven't met the guy. Don't know what, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know what they talk about.

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<v Speaker 5>It sure he exists, Yeah, No, I do know what

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<v Speaker 5>they talk about.

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<v Speaker 3>They talk about how Ash god a phasectomy and he's

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<v Speaker 3>like encouraged Matt to maybe get one.

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<v Speaker 2>As well, Laura don this is a good thing. Your

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<v Speaker 2>Maddie needs to about these things with men. It's good.

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<v Speaker 5>I might want those swimmers in a couple of years time.

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<v Speaker 5>We can put it in a jar.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure.

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<v Speaker 1>I think like getting for sectomies as a bromance, he's

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<v Speaker 1>taking the bromance to the next level, like most people

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<v Speaker 1>go for a beer, not like hey, bro, let's get

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<v Speaker 1>the snip Yeah Snip Club.

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<v Speaker 2>University of Sydney in Australia reporting that changing cultural norms

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<v Speaker 2>are leading to a rise in the bromance.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I think we're seeing way more of this.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I don't know if any of you have

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<v Speaker 3>heard of the I'm sure so many of you have

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<v Speaker 3>the podcast from Huban Carleenberg The Imperfect. So much of

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<v Speaker 3>that is around having they're often on Will and Woody,

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<v Speaker 3>So much of their podcast is around conversations between men

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<v Speaker 3>opening up, having these friendships and for it being a

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<v Speaker 3>space where it's okay for men to have vulnerable conversations

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<v Speaker 3>in the same way that women do without it being

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<v Speaker 3>looked at as being weird or effeminate or any of

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<v Speaker 3>those things.

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<v Speaker 2>One hundred percent. Yes, I have a lot of straight

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<v Speaker 2>men in my life right being a gay man that

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<v Speaker 2>I can tell, and I know it happens at parties

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<v Speaker 2>all the time. I'll be a five pit at a

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<v Speaker 2>party and these straight men will come up to me

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<v Speaker 2>and over the course of the night and we will

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<v Speaker 2>have really deep chats. And I said to my sister,

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<v Speaker 2>I was one of her parties recently and a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of her male friends would come up to me, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'd be like, did you know that you know Stephen

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<v Speaker 2>was a drag queen for one night in Thailand? Did

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<v Speaker 2>you know she had no idea? Like, I think they

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<v Speaker 2>just feel it's a safe space to talk to someone

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<v Speaker 2>like me who is open to having these conversations. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think it needs to be opened up more romances

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<v Speaker 2>in normal male relationships up and more. I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I think is really helping us see

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<v Speaker 1>those rising men talking more openly and vulnerably to each other,

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<v Speaker 1>is like I don't know if you guys have seen

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<v Speaker 1>these documentaries lately, but Lewis Capaldi and Ed Shearon have

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<v Speaker 1>both put things out documentaries out where they have been

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<v Speaker 1>so vulnerable with their mental health, with how they're struggling,

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<v Speaker 1>and Sharon recently came out and said by no means

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<v Speaker 1>do I want to be the postboy for this, but

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<v Speaker 1>I have bulimia.

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<v Speaker 5>For a lot of time. I have struggle from bolimia

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<v Speaker 5>because I.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't feel good enough when I saw other male performers,

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<v Speaker 1>because all these huge male performers who were like getting

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<v Speaker 1>their shirts off and ripped.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think that that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, these these docos are going number one on Netflix,

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<v Speaker 1>so the world is watching them, and I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>when when you look at these people for inspiration and

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<v Speaker 1>then you're like, wow, they go through this too, and

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<v Speaker 1>they can talk about it. It just opens up a

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<v Speaker 1>whole new world for people.

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<v Speaker 3>I also think, like vulnerability in men, it's so underrated.

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<v Speaker 1>Women bloody love it is vulnerable.

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<v Speaker 5>You're like, oh yeah, I'll give me a little bit

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<v Speaker 5>more of that.

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<v Speaker 3>But like, I think men think that it's a weakness,

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<v Speaker 3>but really it's the best way of getting closer to

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<v Speaker 3>your partner.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, don't tell everyone that all these single men

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<v Speaker 1>out there, or start.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, that's us done, let's get out of here,

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<v Speaker 2>will And what are you up next? Everybody? If you

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<v Speaker 2>missed any the show this week, I had to iHeart

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<v Speaker 2>search to pick up by say, guys,