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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Female Athlete Project. My name is Chloe Dalton.

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Speaker 1: I'm an Olympic gold medalist in rugby sevens and because

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Speaker 1: I have commitment issues, have also played two other sports

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Speaker 1: at professional level. The last two seasons, I've played for

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Speaker 1: Carlton in the AFLW and prior to that, played for

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Speaker 1: the Sydney Uni Flames and the Women's National Basketball League.

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Speaker 1: I'm currently training full time with the Australian rugby sevens

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Speaker 1: for the now Tokyo twenty twenty one Olympics. One of

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Speaker 1: my favorite things to do is to head down to

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Speaker 1: the beach, grab a coffee and the paper, click to

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Speaker 1: the back page and read about sport. I've had enough

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Speaker 1: of only reading stories about men's sport, so I decided

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Speaker 1: to do something about it. One day, female athletes will

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Speaker 1: be recognized by their achievements and not by their gender.

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Speaker 1: Until then, I'm going to chat to and share the

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Speaker 1: stories of epic ossie female athletes. This episode is brought

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Speaker 1: to you by Workplace Law and Athletes Authority, who are

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Speaker 1: both incredible supporters of Female Athlete Project. This week's guest

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Speaker 1: is my Carlton teammatee Taylor Harris Taylor has played in

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Speaker 1: the AFLW since its inception in twenty seventeen, and has

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Speaker 1: been named in the All Australian side on three occasions.

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Speaker 1: In twenty eighteen, she was awarded Mark of the Year,

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Speaker 1: and in twenty nineteen was photographed kicking a goal that

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Speaker 1: will go down in history, not for the kick itself,

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Speaker 1: but for her response to online trolls that spread across

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Speaker 1: the globe. And that same year, Taylor won the Australian

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Speaker 1: titles for both the middleweight and super well to weight boxing.

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Speaker 1: Besides all the impressive stuff she does in sport and

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Speaker 1: the causes that she has championed, as you're here, she's

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Speaker 1: just a good person who will do anything to support

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Speaker 1: her mates. I hope you enjoy it, Taylor Harris, Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Female Athlete Project.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm very glad to be virtually here.

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Speaker 1: Virtually I would have loved to have done it in person.

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Speaker 1: We were hoping that we could have caught up in

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Speaker 1: Melbourne and done it in real life. But next season

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Speaker 1: we're on.

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Speaker 2: We are on next time, definitely in real life. Please,

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Speaker 2: I'm not liking this zoom situation feels less personal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I've had enough of the zoom, but

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Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to having a chat with you today.

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Speaker 1: You're almost midway through the AFLW season, which has been

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Speaker 1: pretty up and down so far in terms of everything

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Speaker 1: with Corona and games being canceled and moved and kind

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Speaker 1: of finding out week to week what that looks like.

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Speaker 1: How has it been so far for you?

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Speaker 2: Well, what you just said at the end, finding out

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Speaker 2: week to week what who are playing and where the

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Speaker 2: game is and things like that is pretty challenging from

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Speaker 2: a preparation point of view obviously, but then also I

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Speaker 2: guess mentally, like just preparing yourself for Friday, Saturday or

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Speaker 2: Sunday game, there's a difference, So I think that that

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Speaker 2: advance if you're go into which calabr of tig going

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Speaker 2: to it. So as much as the competition isn't out

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Speaker 2: of balance too much, there are teams that you would

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Speaker 2: prepare completely differently to another team and that could actually

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Speaker 2: factor into the week earlier. You know, players resting or

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Speaker 2: there are plenty of different scenarios that are affected. But

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Speaker 2: in saying that, it's the same for every single team,

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Speaker 2: so it's not like some teams are you know, in

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Speaker 2: a different position. We're all in the same position. So

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Speaker 2: it's one of those adapts things that however adapts the

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Speaker 1: How different is your heads face going into a game

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Speaker 1: you were saying that about like a Friday night game

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Speaker 1: versus ay, like a Sunday AVO game, And is it

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Speaker 2: Well? I think Friday night comes around very quick and

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Speaker 2: particularly with training schedule. So obviously we normally train on

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Speaker 2: on a Friday night game. It would potentially be either

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Speaker 1: How are you on game day? I know, when we've

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Speaker 2: Well, I like to sleep in as much as I can.

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Speaker 1: Loves to sleep in.

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Speaker 2: I train. If we're talking about a Friday game, I

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Speaker 1: I want to go back to Taylor Harris as a

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Speaker 1: little kid. Can you tell me a little bit about

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Speaker 1: what you're like growing up and whether sport was kind

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Speaker 2: It was what was it was my childhood? I suppose

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Speaker 2: it was met my brother and I were playing footy

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Speaker 2: So I had a great I was very fortunate, had

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Speaker 2: the neighborhoods, especially where I live, it's quite you know,

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Speaker 2: it wasn't. There was no traffic. You didn't think about

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Speaker 2: I would think kids with trams and you know, the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it seems a bit different in these days

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I wanted to and I think I feel

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Speaker 2: about it. Snakes, I'd play snake and that's you know

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Speaker 2: as far as it got. Rest in peace now, yeah,

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Speaker 1: So did you get to play footy all the way

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Speaker 2: I did. I played for the boys since I was

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Speaker 2: five with what I should say mixed, but in reality

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Speaker 2: I don't think anyone made any you know, anything disrespectful

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Speaker 2: when I got to the point where girls aren't allowed

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Speaker 2: It just didn't make sense at all. And I've actually

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Speaker 2: won the league best in farist just in the under

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Speaker 2: I'm good enough. I was as big as strong, tackled

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Speaker 2: in women's pooty where they were full grown women when

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Speaker 2: hurt because there's just big, bigger, stronger bodies, so hard

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Speaker 2: you just didn't mess up, like you just didn't do

436
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 2: the wrong thing. You listened whole you know, completely, and

437
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,119
Speaker 2: you heard exactly what they said and the instructions. And

438
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:15,439
Speaker 2: if you've got it, you know, if you didn't hear

439
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:19,560
Speaker 2: it for some reason, it's like, oh God, like what,

440
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,000
Speaker 2: So you've become accountable? Yeah, what happens now? So you

441
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 2: become accountable for your own actions so much to the

442
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 2: minor details of listening and engaging in the instructions prior.

443
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 2: Obviously as you get more fatigued, that's more challenging. But

444
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,359
Speaker 2: from that, footy became a bit full on for a

445
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 2: bit with underage commitments, underage national teams and things like that.

446
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,679
Speaker 2: And then I went back once I got my driver's license,

447
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 2: to the boxing gym and stormed in there with my

448
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 2: twelve year old experience and I said, I want to

449
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 2: fight here, or I want to join up here and

450
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 2: train here. And then some guy full of tattoes up

451
00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,199
Speaker 2: to his neck comes over like without a shirt on.

452
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,720
Speaker 2: He's like, okay, here's the membership price is a hand

453
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 2: of me, like a pamphlet, and it was just the best.

454
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 2: I was just like, this is where I should be.

455
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,719
Speaker 2: And he was as much as he was, you know,

456
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 2: patted up and muscle and things. He was the most

457
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,360
Speaker 2: friendly person. And turns out he didn't even work there.

458
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,919
Speaker 2: It was just you know, one of the members, and

459
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 2: that's corporate box is the gym, and that's the gym's

460
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,639
Speaker 2: I guess philosophy. If you remember there, you're not you know,

461
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:29,159
Speaker 2: you're part of something, You're part of a community. And

462
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 2: that kind of led me to believe that boxing, as

463
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 2: much as it's seen as an individual sport, isn't an

464
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 2: individual sport. I believe, I truly believe it's a team sport.

465
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 2: And the only time when you're on your own, I guess,

466
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 2: is in the ring, and that's again for a very

467
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,439
Speaker 2: short period of time. And even then you're not like

468
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,879
Speaker 2: you've got your coach, You've got your corner people right there.

469
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:53,160
Speaker 2: Two meet is away. So that's my experience.

470
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've got a pretty pretty cool team around you

471
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 1: with all your boxing. Can you tell us a little

472
00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 1: bit about your relationship with your coach and your support

473
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 1: team that have been with you throughout your boxing career

474
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 1: so far.

475
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 2: And I've got a coach who I the day that

476
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 2: I walked in and kind of said I want to

477
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 2: join up here. He was the head boxing coach of

478
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 2: the gym at that time, and so I actually joined

479
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,679
Speaker 2: up to Corporate Box and I thought I was going

480
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 2: to do kickboxing, and so I was doing kickboxing and

481
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 2: learning that the sport, which is completely different boxing Muay Thai,

482
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 2: i should say. And I was learning kicks, knees, elbows,

483
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 2: punches and all sorts, which was great and they really

484
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 2: enjoyed it. And this is obviously a quite a sad

485
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 2: part of the story. But my coach at that time,

486
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,120
Speaker 2: his name was as A as a Tron. He was

487
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,400
Speaker 2: teaching me kickboxing, and I remember he said I wasn't

488
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,200
Speaker 2: allowed to do any pad work until I went to

489
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,639
Speaker 2: skip because I couldn't skip yet. And so I was

490
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 2: spending hours just doing skips. And I'll be happy with

491
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 2: ten in a row, and then happy with twenty in

492
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 2: a row, and then one hundred in a row was

493
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,119
Speaker 2: when I was allowed to do padwork. That was great,

494
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,479
Speaker 2: but then all of a sudden and no one, you know,

495
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,919
Speaker 2: no one expected it coming, but he passed away, and

496
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 2: so I turned up for training and he wasn't coming,

497
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 2: so obviously got told he's not gonna be coming, and

498
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 2: then that was obviously pretty upsetting, and then I needed

499
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 2: a new kh. So Baris took on a lot of

500
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 2: as his clients and I was one of them, and

501
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 2: he was obviously just boxing, and I kind of gave

502
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,120
Speaker 2: the time to understand this sport because it's a whole

503
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 2: different sport. So I was like, I'm going to learn

504
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 2: this now, and I just loved the skillfulness and the

505
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:40,640
Speaker 2: footwork and the evasive nature and the you know, even

506
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 2: the little setup punches that okay, you hold something out

507
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 2: and then throw another one. It's nothing like what it

508
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 2: seems on the outside. Every single punch and accombination is calculated,

509
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 2: and even in a fight, as much as it seems

510
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 2: like chaos, which it is, but there are ultimately habits

511
00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 2: that you've developed from training that you might throw a

512
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 2: combination that seems like you've just randomly thrown it, but

513
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 2: then you can look back at your training videos and

514
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 2: you can see that you've thrown that three months ago

515
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 2: and I think that's a pretty amazing part of the spot.

516
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 2: But then so Paris obviously comes along, and he and

517
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 2: the entire gym were obviously morning as I am. He

518
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 2: was someone who I relied on and I wanted to,

519
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,919
Speaker 2: you know, really make him proud from the start because

520
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 2: he was such a friendly and welcoming person. And then

521
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,880
Speaker 2: since that was I think six years ago, maybe even

522
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 2: more since we've just been great friends. Like obviously coach

523
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 2: and everything. I would you know, I would definitely say

524
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 2: one of my really close friends who I can rely on.

525
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 2: And we have traveled the country. We've been to Sidney,

526
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 2: We've been to Melbourne together for training camps or fights.

527
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 2: We've been to America together. We tired that will happen

528
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 2: after the borders and stuff open up again. So yeah,

529
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 2: we spend a lot of time together and I really

530
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 2: enjoy his methods. And Paris is very calm and very

531
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 2: much on the same page as I am in terms

532
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 2: of training and how to get the most out of

533
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 2: me as an athlete, but him as a coach. And

534
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 2: that's that mutual respect where yelling isn't needed or criticism

535
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 2: isn't needed, it's more learning. If something's wrong, or if

536
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 2: I haven't trained hard enough for some reason, it's understanding

537
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 2: why as opposed to you should have and regretting it.

538
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,439
Speaker 2: It's but why didn't you train well today for some reason?

539
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 2: And they're very well could be and likely will be

540
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 2: a valid reason. But yeah, that's how we operate. He's yeah,

541
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 2: Faris Shavalia. He's actually fighting on March thirteenth, and so

542
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 2: he's getting ready to fight. Yeah, so I'll be there

543
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 2: hopefully if we don't have a game that nights, which

544
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 2: would be frustrating, but I'll be there supporting him because

545
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,439
Speaker 2: he's been at every single fight supporting me.

546
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 1: That's epic, that's really cool. I want to play you

547
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 1: an audio clip November twenty nineteen, So one month's prior

548
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 1: you'd taken out the Australian midweight title, and this was

549
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 1: from your fight for the Australian Super Well toweight title.

550
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 2: He's going for the kill here in Tyler Harris, looking

551
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 2: to improve it a record to seven wins. Who's got

552
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 2: to know that overhead right's coming there? It is Yeah, Oh,

553
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 2: it's a big trouble that's gonna be ever.

554
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: Referee. So that was the moment that you took out. Yeah,

555
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 1: your second title for the year, the Australian Super well

556
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: toweight title. Can you tell us a little bit about

557
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: what that feeling was like winning that fight.

558
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 2: Up until that exact punch, I was actually deceased, like

559
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 2: I was so exhausted. Yeah, I was telling someone about

560
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 2: this the other day. Actually, that particular fight was such

561
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 2: a rollercoaster from round one around I can remember. I

562
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 2: can't remember if I won in round three or round four,

563
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 2: but the first couple or a few rounds, I was

564
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 2: getting comprehensively beaten, not necessarily so much so that I

565
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 2: felt out of it or rocked or that I couldn't

566
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 2: come back and win. More the fact that she was

567
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 2: on top of me physically, was able to throw more

568
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 2: punches and was clearly feeling better. I had lost ten

569
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 2: to twelve kilos for that fight well and for the weight,

570
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 2: so obviously we do a weight cut generally for a fight,

571
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 2: but this one was pretty brutal thing to see nine

572
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 2: point five kilos, which is the Welsh the super Welsh

573
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 2: weight limit on minimum maximum wait a minute, and so

574
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 2: it was a pretty oh, I suppose brave thing to say, oh, yeah,

575
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 2: I'm going to get sixty nine point five kilos considering

576
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 2: I'm at all, you know, quite bigger bodied person, and

577
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 2: I right now, for example, I'm about seventy eight seventy

578
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 2: nine kilos, so that probably.

579
00:29:58,240 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 1: Explains it's a big cart.

580
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 2: How how much it was it was brutal. I did

581
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 2: it well, and I did it with the nutritionness, and

582
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 2: I did it the most healthy way possible, and we

583
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 2: got there and it was no problem. But and Paris

584
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 2: explained it to me after the fight, it's like driving

585
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 2: a new car, like this new body that you've never

586
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 2: had this with this weight or had this feeling in before.

587
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 2: So I got in the ring feeling great, but as

588
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 2: soon as I started throwing punches, I just felt like

589
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 2: I had no legs. I felt like, you know, I

590
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 2: couldn't concentrate, I couldn't think. I wasn't doing what I

591
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 2: was supposed to be doing. I got back to the

592
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 2: corner and I wasn't. It was hard to listen. All

593
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 2: I was doing is just trying to get my breath

594
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 2: and wondering if my legs were going to stand up

595
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 2: even to be able to get back out to fight again.

596
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 2: And so the first few rounds of this incredible mental

597
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 2: battle and then I came back either the third or

598
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 2: the fourth, and I Paris said, can you keep going?

599
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 2: And it's important for the coach to ask that when

600
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 2: you're not necessarily showing much. Clearly I wasn't. I wasn't

601
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 2: able to, you know, fight back I usually would. And

602
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 2: I said yes, like I didn't even think about it.

603
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 2: I'm sure I just said yes. And then he said right,

604
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 2: and then moves on to the little speech, and he said,

605
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 2: because in the fight it was an eight round fight,

606
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 2: I'd already I think it was the first three that

607
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 2: I'd already clearly lost. So I was clearly losing on

608
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 2: points if I lost this next round, if the fight

609
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 2: was either gonna if it went to eight rounds either

610
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 2: going to be a draw or she would win. Likely

611
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 2: she would win. And so he basically said that to

612
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 2: me today. He said, you are going to lose if

613
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 2: you do not knock her out. Now Wow's friends shack.

614
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 2: So I was like, okay, and then I literally just

615
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 2: got up. And I've never seen or experienced in real

616
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 2: life life someone stealing belief that genuinely like takes someone

617
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 2: from one level to complete, you know, different. And if

618
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 2: it was, it was like a movie like you could.

619
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 2: I could feel this like energy come through me, as

620
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 2: like a like an electricity. Get up, okay, Like if

621
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 2: you think I can, obviously I can. I'm not even

622
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 2: thinking at this point. All I heard was his instructions

623
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 2: and then so I got out there and then as

624
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 2: the clip you played, obviously I managed to win that fight.

625
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 2: But the interesting part, obviously that clip sounds like it

626
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 2: was easy sailing or something like that, but it was.

627
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 2: You know, I was very much If there was betting on,

628
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 2: I would have been a very long at the moment

629
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 2: at the time, in the time just before that round,

630
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 2: I would have been very long odds and definitely not

631
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 2: the favorite. But I yeah managed to do it. I

632
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 2: think that was my very first time that I'd been

633
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 2: challenged in that way, and it was really important to

634
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 2: make sure that I could do that and come back

635
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 2: and continue the fight and then win the fight, because

636
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 2: if I hadn't of Paris would have and he kind

637
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 2: of told me, he would have suggested that perhaps I

638
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 2: shouldn't fight, because if you don't have that ability, it's

639
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 2: dangerous to fight. If I had gone out and not

640
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 2: managed to get the upper hand in that round, I

641
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 2: could have got injured really badly. So there are some

642
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 2: big lessons we learned in that fight, good and productive lessons.

643
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's how it went down. And then to

644
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 2: win was just like this incredible relief, like I've never

645
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 2: really felt such a you know, relieving feeling when they

646
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 2: called the fight off to to a knocked out.

647
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: I got this question the other day which I found

648
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: quite hard to answer. Do you reckon that like competitive

649
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 1: drive that you have in you, that kind of like

650
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: that desire to win and that feeling of getting back

651
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: on your feet even when you feel like your legs

652
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: might not stand up beneath you. Do you think that's

653
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: something that's instinctive and inherent or do you think that's

654
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 1: something that people can learn throughout their career, whether that's

655
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: sport or whatever it is that they're doing.

656
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 2: I think it's something that you only will ever know

657
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 2: whether you're that way inclined or not, if you're presented

658
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,239
Speaker 2: with that chulenge and it's a legitimate one. It's not

659
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 2: just like in a training drill, you know, it's it's

660
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 2: when you're in allians who you've you know, asked to

661
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 2: buy Victyolo tickets for and your mum's in the crowd,

662
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 2: already hysterical and only looking back through her fingers, always

663
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 2: the musk, and so it's kind of like there isn't

664
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 2: any other option, Like you have to get up, and

665
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 2: if you don't, it's not only a disappointing thing in

666
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 2: the moment, it's disappointing forever. Like I would never if

667
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 2: I had lost that fight, I would never have forgotten

668
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 2: it and never would have forgiven myself for not continuing on.

669
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 2: So I think that's the only time you'll ever know

670
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 2: if you have that ability. And I do think something

671
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 2: is not to say with everyone. I think that, Well,

672
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 2: clearly there are people who it's fight or flight, that's

673
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 2: the exact wording for it. And yeah, thankfully I was

674
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 2: turned out. I have that and it's idea when I'm

675
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,439
Speaker 2: in the sports that I am. But there are people

676
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 2: that are that don't, and they are in the situation

677
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 2: that I was in. They they're in the fights, they've

678
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 2: got to where they to this point, but that's it.

679
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 2: That's the point that they will finish on. And that's

680
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 2: okay too, Like it's not I don't think it's necessarily

681
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 2: a bad thing. I just think it's the differences between athletes,

682
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 2: and that's why there are champions and world champions, and

683
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 2: that's why there are competitors that don't necessarily make it

684
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:19,879
Speaker 2: to the very top.

685
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, every week on the show, I get a question

686
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 1: from a five year old and from my grandma. So

687
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,919
Speaker 1: this first question is from Frieda, who's five years old.

688
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 2: Hi, Kyla, how do you hick your legs so high? I?

689
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 2: I kick my legs a right. Well, my dad told

690
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 2: me when I was really young learning to kick a ball,

691
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 2: He said, follow through is important. So I took that

692
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 2: very literally, and whenever I kick the ball, I make

693
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 2: sure my leg keeps going all the way through up

694
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 2: to my face. And sometimes I would even hit myself

695
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 2: with my knee in my face. And one game I'll

696
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,280
Speaker 2: never forget, I actually hit my nose with my knee

697
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 2: from a kick and it bled and it was so embarrassing.

698
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 2: Embarrassing but really funny. But yeah, so that's the reason,

699
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 2: and that's how I suppose how I'm just happened to

700
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 2: be flexible, which is night But yeah, I just practiced

701
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,439
Speaker 2: lots and lots of doing the same kick over and over,

702
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 2: and maybe every time I do it, I get a

703
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 2: little bit more extension. I'm not sure.

704
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 1: There was a big moment in twenty nineteen, playing in

705
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 1: the Pride Round against the Western Bulldogs and Michael Wilson,

706
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: the photographer, I took a photo of you doing that

707
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: same kick, almost kicking yourself in the face with your knee. Obviously,

708
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: it's a pretty well known moment. What happened on social

709
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:42,280
Speaker 1: media afterwards, the comments from different people that were sexist

710
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 1: and derogatory and things like that, and you had a

711
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:49,280
Speaker 1: pretty incredible response to that post being taken down initially

712
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 1: by Channel seven. How did you How are you so

713
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: quick thinking on your feet in that moment?

714
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 2: Well, I didn't think much about it. I literally just

715
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 2: that was my reactions. That was my instinct, and that

716
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 2: was what's you know, who I am, and that is

717
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 2: to stand up for myself. And I actually just did

718
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 2: what I would have done in any other scenario, whether

719
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 2: it was on social media, in real life or you know,

720
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 2: just in a conversation. I stood up for myself and

721
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 2: I made a statement as I normally would, and I

722
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 2: thought it was a cool photo, so I reposted it

723
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 2: and that was that was with no intention for what

724
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 2: happened to happen. Obviously, I would have hoped people would

725
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 2: have seen it and thought, yeah, you're right like that,

726
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 2: it's wrong. There shouldn't be sexism and derogatory comments. But

727
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 2: I definitely didn't think what ended up unfolding was going

728
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 2: to happen when I posted that. I posted it purely

729
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 2: because I knew Mom and Dad would be proud of

730
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 2: me for standing up to myself, because they always told

731
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 2: me to.

732
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:55,240
Speaker 1: I'm interested to know what kind of after that moment,

733
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 1: what it felt like. You obviously made a big stand.

734
00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 1: It was pretty incredible to see how many people got

735
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 1: behind you. What did it feel like after that moment,

736
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: whether it was after it had settled down or things

737
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,439
Speaker 1: like that, when you actually kind of had to sit

738
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: with it on your own at home with what had

739
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:10,720
Speaker 1: actually happened.

740
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 2: Everything kind of happened in this real whirlwind because I

741
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 2: posted that and then I went to bed, so I

742
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 2: didn't know what was really happening. Yeah, as I said,

743
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 2: I posted it just with no real reason. I just

744
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 2: did because that's what I thought was, you know, what

745
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 2: I should do and what I wanted to do. And

746
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 2: then the next morning woken up to heaps of notifications,

747
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 2: phone calls, texts, everything asking for me to be in

748
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 2: the media, so media, and I was like what for,

749
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 2: you know, like, well, what have I done? And then

750
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 2: I kind of worked it all and realized what I

751
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 2: had done, and that was create something for people to

752
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 2: really kind of latch into and share around and were

753
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:03,240
Speaker 2: out of say yepree, not people who had profiles, but everyone.

754
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 2: And clearly that's why it went viral, because I resonated

755
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 2: with it, and as much as it was just a statement,

756
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 2: it was something that a lot of people felt and

757
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,919
Speaker 2: wanted to say and wanted to hear and be heard,

758
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 2: so that the next morning there wasn't much downtime at all, Like,

759
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 2: there wasn't much you know. I suppose the story would

760
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 2: be more interesting if there was crying and shit like that,

761
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 2: but there wasn't. Like it was. It was like a powerful,

762
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 2: really powerful moment for me that I felt like I

763
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 2: had done the right thing. I still stood up to myself.

764
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 2: I stood by what I had done, And there there

765
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 2: was no point where I ever thought, oh, maybe I

766
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 2: shouldn't have done that, or maybe I shouldn't have done

767
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 2: the kick, maybe I shouldn't maybe Channel seven shouldn't have

768
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 2: posted it. Nothing like that. It was completely the fact

769
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 2: that I had seen some gross shit, I commented on

770
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 2: it or I posted about it and made a comment

771
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,760
Speaker 2: about it, and then you know, the rest is history.

772
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 2: And it was pretty interesting to see how it all

773
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 2: unfolded because none of it was you know, lanned or

774
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 2: I didn't even think for a second it would go

775
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 2: the way it did.

776
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 1: Have you seen from that obviously it was pretty neative

777
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: the initial experience, But have you had any things like

778
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 1: from that where you've been able to have like a

779
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,399
Speaker 1: I guess, a positive experience through social media, Like whether

780
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: that's people who've been able to reach out because of

781
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: something similar that might have happened to them or something

782
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: along those lines.

783
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, most age, someone says something really nice and really oh,

784
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 2: I suppose shares their story and it's amazing, and I

785
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 2: try and reply as much as I possibly can. But

786
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 2: whether it is someone direct messging or commenting or tagging

787
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 2: or posting their own photo and you know, tagging with

788
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 2: the caption, things like that. So I try and see

789
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 2: everything on social media. But then even in real life,

790
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 2: people come up and say some lovely things and that

791
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 2: that particular incident was able to help them in some way,

792
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 2: And it could be a really random way it might

793
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 2: not even be just directly because of you know, bullying

794
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 2: or online harassment and things like that. But then I

795
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 2: guess the other part is I made this. It was

796
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 2: a hashtag called Taylor's Kick Challenge, and I thought of

797
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 2: it might soon after because I was sick of things

798
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 2: been kind of negative and whatever. I thought it was

799
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 2: a good opportunity to tend it around because everyone was

800
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 2: already kind of doing the kick and mimicking what I

801
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 2: was doing and trying it out and tagging me in it.

802
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 2: But I made the kick Challenge, and I think I

803
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 2: had a pair of footy boots that I was giving away.

804
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 2: I just found them whoever could do the best kick

805
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 2: and have by footy boots. And there was this young

806
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 2: girl that I ended up picking and she got the

807
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 2: boots and we've stayed connected and friends ever since.

808
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 1: That's really cool, m J. What a legend question from

809
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 1: my grandma from Nan, Hi, Taylor, What is the biggest

810
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 1: misconception people have about you?

811
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,399
Speaker 2: Oh? Wow, Nan getting really deep.

812
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: She goes deep every time, Granny.

813
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 2: The biggest misconception? Well, actually, and this is funny that

814
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 2: she asked that, and one letter is missing, but well

815
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 2: it's an oh, I have oxymoron tattooed on my fingers.

816
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 2: This thing is broken, so it's a little thing on it,

817
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 2: and so oxymorant oxymoron is obviously contradicting terms. And for me,

818
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 2: I kind of got it because I'm kind of a

819
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 2: contradicting person with my appearance tattoos. When I play footy,

820
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,280
Speaker 2: I like to you know, smash people. When I box,

821
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 2: I want to off people out all these sorts of

822
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,280
Speaker 2: things I want to you know, I drive fast cars,

823
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 2: I jump off things, I skateboard and whatever else. But

824
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 2: in reality, like I'm an incredibly sensitive and in my life,

825
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 2: my people, my people, I should say, every one around

826
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 2: me who I love and care for is what first,

827
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 2: and I will always, you know, ensure that they're number

828
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 2: one and I'll protect them. So with any kind of

829
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 2: incident on the field, if there was any you know,

830
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:58,399
Speaker 2: rough player or whatever, it's more often than not because

831
00:42:58,440 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 2: someone's come up to me and said, oh, this girl

832
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 2: kind of picking on me or pushing me or whatever,

833
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 2: and then they'll get what's coming for them. So that's

834
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 2: I suppose, in a bit of a random way, I

835
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 2: assume I could be wrong, you know, scene because of

836
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 2: any you assume you know tattoos are depicted as a

837
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 2: certain way or Yeah, my style of play is I

838
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 2: might be I must be a bad person or I

839
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 2: must be mean or something like that, but I'll hit

840
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 2: someone as hard as possible and it'll be fair. But

841
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,320
Speaker 2: then I'll help them up if they're if they deserve

842
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 2: the help. But yeah, so I may maybe that, but

843
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 2: I said also be wrong, like people could might not

844
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 2: sick that. I don't know. Maybe they do think I

845
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 2: undertook because I am.

846
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: I don't know what my my first impression of you was.

847
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,240
Speaker 1: I don't know if I thought you were a thug

848
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: or anything like that, but I can I can definitely agree.

849
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: It's been interesting getting to know you, knowing that side

850
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 1: to you that you do like you look after after

851
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 1: the people in your life. Like even the other day

852
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: I had to move stuff into storage and you'd played

853
00:43:58,080 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: a game the night before and you rocked up at

854
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: eight or nine in the morning with the big you

855
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,800
Speaker 1: ready to load it up with furniture. So it's pretty

856
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 1: cool to know someone like you. And I definitely can

857
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,439
Speaker 1: agree that you do anything for the people in your.

858
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 2: Life's very true. Yeah, I do, and I think it's

859
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 2: so real as and perhaps it is selfish, but it is.

860
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 2: It's rewarding to me, Like it's not as if I'm

861
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 2: doing all this, you know, all these extra little things

862
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,240
Speaker 2: for friends or maybe trying to make a friend smile

863
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 2: or laugh or whatever. Yeah, it obviously benefits them, but

864
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Speaker 2: in reality, it benefit's you as a person, Like you

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Speaker 2: feel good and you feel like you've helped someone. And

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Speaker 2: if you're this way inclined for helping people, is you know,

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Speaker 2: something that you get a lot out of, then it's

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Speaker 2: a great life. Like people around you are happy and

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Speaker 2: wanting to help you in turn as well.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, absolutely. Before we get to the final segment,

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Speaker 1: I wanted to quickly touch on our Watch, who is

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Speaker 1: the organization that you've been an ambassador for. And I

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Speaker 1: actually got to do some stuff with our Watch when

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Speaker 1: I was previously back at Rugby sevens, and I think

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Speaker 1: a big part of the education and training I did

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Speaker 1: with them, I found it so incredible to understand, I

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Speaker 1: guess the role that sport can play in shaping society

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Speaker 1: because a big part of that education was around the

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Speaker 1: work they do in preventing domestic violence and how gender

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Speaker 1: equality is a key part of that and I think

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Speaker 1: with sport looking at sport, how it's it's part of

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Speaker 1: Australian culture. You see families who sit on the couch

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Speaker 1: and what's sport together? Or they go down on a

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Speaker 1: Saturday and play sport, or they go to the park

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Speaker 1: and kick the footy or take the cricket about or

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Speaker 1: whatever they do. And I think it was a pretty

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Speaker 1: eye opening moment for me realizing what a massive role

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Speaker 1: you can play as an athlete. You're not just out

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Speaker 1: there kicking the footy around having a bit of fun.

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Speaker 1: You actually have a pretty massive I guess responsibility if

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Speaker 1: you want to take that on. What do you feel

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Speaker 1: like that role in that ambassadorship has meant for you?

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Speaker 2: Well, I think exactly what you said, like sport is

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Speaker 2: such a driving force for society to be better. It's

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Speaker 2: a community. It's this huge community of people that gather

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Speaker 2: together and have one you know one or different teams

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Speaker 2: obviously have rivalries. But Patti Kinnersley, who's the CEO of

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Speaker 2: our watch on the board at Carlton, she was explaining

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Speaker 2: to us how these Carlton fans when we have it

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Speaker 2: a message or as spreading awareness or we have a round,

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Speaker 2: whether it's pride around indigenous round. We're wearing gal cart

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Speaker 2: and Respects socks. All these people, thousands of them, we

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Speaker 2: have sixty five thousand odd fans at the moment are

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Speaker 2: automatically tuned into what we're sharing because they're so invested

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Speaker 2: in this football club. They're financially invested because they've got

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Speaker 2: their memberships, but they're emotionally and or physically as well

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Speaker 2: because they're at the game invested. So when we're doing

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Speaker 2: something and when we're passionate about something, all these people automatically,

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Speaker 2: you know, want to be a part of it and

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Speaker 2: want to understand what it is and want to be

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Speaker 2: better in whatever it is that we're sharing. So that's

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Speaker 2: our role. We were wearing orange stock. It's not a

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Speaker 2: big deal. We probably didn't even you know, didn't notice,

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Speaker 2: didn't make a difference at all to our game or

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Speaker 2: our preparation or our you know, our uniform even looked cooler,

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Speaker 2: I thought. So it's certainly not hard to do your

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Speaker 2: little piece as an athlete, to do your bit for

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Speaker 2: all sorts of different campaigns or in this case our

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Speaker 2: watch of course, but Cowton Respects, I should say, was

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Speaker 2: that particular initiative I just think sport is incredibly important

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Speaker 2: for that in that space. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, I couldn't agree more. My would you rather questions

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Speaker 1: to finish out number one in an AFLW Gram final?

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Speaker 1: Would you rather miss a goal from fifty out after

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Speaker 1: the siren to lose the game or turn the footy

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Speaker 1: over and they kick the goal to win?

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Speaker 2: I think miss it. I guess miss it. I guess

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Speaker 2: miss it because because then at least you tried, Like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I suppose miss it is the answer?

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Speaker 1: Okay. Would you rather have arms as long as your

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Speaker 1: legs or legs as long as your arms, legs.

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Speaker 2: As long as my arms? No? No, no, actually as long

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Speaker 2: as my legs because I can reach stuff real high

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Speaker 2: and I can take bigger marks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, reach would be good. Would they be heavy, though?

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Speaker 2: Well? Would I have feet hands or not?

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Speaker 1: I feel like you'd have to have normal hands because

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Speaker 1: otherwise you can be able to do anything.

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Speaker 2: Well. I think I would grow strange to be able

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Speaker 2: to lift them.

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Speaker 1: Final. Would you rather would you rather have a sing

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Speaker 1: off or a dance off with Beyonce?

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Speaker 2: I would? I think I would rather do absolutely anything

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Speaker 2: else in the universe, considering the slaughtering that would take

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Speaker 2: place anything else where?

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Speaker 1: Can people find you on socials?

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Speaker 2: Instagram is my name, but it's a scare in the middle.

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Speaker 2: Am I spelling is t a y la underscore Harris

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Speaker 2: and but I suppose if you just put my name

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Speaker 2: in Facebook's on there you'll find me.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Tay for coming on. I really

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Speaker 1: appreciate your time. It was really cool to have a

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Speaker 1: chat a lot of things that I haven't really had

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Speaker 1: the chance to chat to you before. And it's pretty

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Speaker 1: incredible your story. Yeah, and I'm excited to see where

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Speaker 1: you go next.

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Speaker 2: Thanks.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for listening. If you enjoyed this episode,

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Speaker 1: would love it if you could send it on to

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Speaker 1: one person who you think would get something out of it.

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Speaker 1: A big thanks to my team Bailey, Mike, Bez and Millie.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't do it without you. Guys. Find us on

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Speaker 1: Instagram at the Female Athlete Project. See you next time.