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Speaker 1: Three sixty with Katie Wolf. Join the conversation with Katie Wolf.

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Speaker 1: You are our eyes and ears in the Territory Mix

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Speaker 1: one oh four point nine.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to Mix one oh four point nine. It

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Speaker 2: is twenty three minutes away from ten o'clock. Now. We're

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Speaker 2: having some issues with our phone line, but hopefully we

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Speaker 2: have got the Member for our lun Robin Lamley, on

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Speaker 2: the line right now. Good morning to you, Robin.

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Speaker 1: Good morning Kate.

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Speaker 2: We do goodness, Robin. We're having some issues with our phones.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for speaking with us today.

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Speaker 1: Robin.

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Speaker 2: Can I firstly go to the issue of the day,

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Speaker 2: and really that is the way in which the government

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Speaker 2: is responding to this scandal, which isn't going away. Robin,

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Speaker 2: what are your thoughts?

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Speaker 1: Well, the cover up is worse than the crime, I think.

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Speaker 1: And the other thing that's going through my head is

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Speaker 1: it's like Grand hog Day. I was around in twenty

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Speaker 1: sixteen in Parliament when this scandal broke with Nathan Barrett,

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Speaker 1: and here we go again, but this time we've got

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Speaker 1: a minister who promised, who committed to Territorians that things

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Speaker 1: would be different than they're not. They're simply not.

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Speaker 2: Well and Robin. We seem to have two issues here

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Speaker 2: as well. I guess if you step aside from the

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Speaker 2: moral issue of what Mark Turner has said in Parliament

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Speaker 2: overnight that he had an intimate friendship with somebody and

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Speaker 2: go to the other issue, which is indeed being reported

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Speaker 2: in the paper today, and that is that the Special

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Speaker 2: References Unit are investigating an alleged cocaine sex scandal, including

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Speaker 2: those labor members, and it's been the subject of a

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Speaker 2: two month police investigation. I mean, that is an entirely

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Speaker 2: other situation that needs to be dealt with, and I

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Speaker 2: cannot believe that the Chief Minister is not out saying

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Speaker 2: that there needs to be a full investigation internally as well.

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Speaker 1: Well. It's hypocrisy to the extreme. He needs to be

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Speaker 1: on the front board. We've had two days of Parliament

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Speaker 1: this week and he's tried to serve it back to

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Speaker 1: the opposition leader time and time again. He needs to

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Speaker 1: show some leadership and he needs to stand by his

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Speaker 1: commitment to territorians of leading governments that displays integrity and trust.

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Speaker 1: That was his platform going into the twenty sixteen election.

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Speaker 1: Here we are in twenty twenty one and he's hiding

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Speaker 1: he's got his head in the sand and he's not

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Speaker 1: being honest and upfront. In the speech that you just

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Speaker 1: replayed by Mark Turner, he talked about the fact that

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Speaker 1: he has been speaking with the Chief Minister for several days.

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Speaker 1: The Chief Minister knew about this at least a couple

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Speaker 1: of days ago, if not longer. And we all know

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Speaker 1: the talk that there is a cocaine problem up on

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Speaker 1: Level five that's been talked about in the corridors, in

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Speaker 1: this place, in Parliament House and throughout the community for

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Speaker 1: a long time. And don't forget we've also got the

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Speaker 1: other man involved in this alleged sex and cocaine scandal,

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Speaker 1: who's working on Level five. We understand who's earning more

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Speaker 1: money than you and I kadi to advise the government

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Speaker 1: on how to run the show. So there's problems that

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Speaker 1: the Chief Minister must address today and he must get

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Speaker 1: rid of Mark Turner. His position as a members are

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Speaker 1: blamed is untenable. The people are blamed deserve a whole

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Speaker 1: lot better than him.

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Speaker 2: The Opposition leader thinks that Michael Gunner needs to stand

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Speaker 2: down as well. I mean, Robin, would you go that far?

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Speaker 1: Probably not, but give me twenty four hours. If he

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Speaker 1: hasn't done a whole lot more to demonstrate to Territorians

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Speaker 1: that he is a man of integrity, then I'll get

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Speaker 1: on board with Leah. Probably not at this stage, but

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Speaker 1: definitely Mark Mark's time's up. Look, I didn't even hear

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Speaker 1: an answer of remorse in that speech that he gave

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Speaker 1: in Parliament last night. He was very quick to flip

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Speaker 1: it off to the lead of the opposition, putting pressure

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Speaker 1: on him and so forth. That's not what he should

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Speaker 1: have said. I remember the speech that Nathan Barrett gave

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Speaker 1: him Parliament. He put his head down, he put his

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Speaker 1: tail between his legs, and he didn't try and flip

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Speaker 1: flame to anyone else. He took it all on. He

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Speaker 1: resigned from the colp and he did not run again

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Speaker 1: in the election that happened a few months later. And

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Speaker 1: from that point on, I don't think he's had any

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Speaker 1: certain public life whatsoever because he took responsibility for the

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Speaker 1: bad behavior that he carried on with this needs to

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Speaker 1: do the same. Mark Turner needs to do the same.

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Speaker 1: Take a page out of his book. Nathan Barrett's book

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Speaker 1: can show some integrity.

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Speaker 2: Robert, I tell you what you know. This scandal has

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Speaker 2: certainly dominated the headlines, dominated our radio show, dominated question

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Speaker 2: time for the last few days. But the other point

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Speaker 2: here is that there's some other really serious issues going

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Speaker 2: on in the tear right now, and really you'd have

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Speaker 2: to say that one of the top of the least

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Speaker 2: is the crime issue. In Elie Springs.

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Speaker 1: Look yesterday in parliament, Katie, it was disgusting. The government

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Speaker 1: was censured, an attempt for the opposition leader was made

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Speaker 1: to censure the government, and parliamentary process is that the

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Speaker 1: government then has to accept the censure and the censer

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Speaker 1: is basically saying that what's happening here is completely unacceptable

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Speaker 1: and we're holding you to account in parliament on this subject,

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Speaker 1: which was crime, crime, crime, crime, the government not only

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Speaker 1: rejected that opportunity for the non government members to censor

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Speaker 1: them on crime, but then went on to dominate the

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Speaker 1: general Business three hours on Wednesday afternoon by changing the

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Speaker 1: agenda item that was up for discussion, which was about crime.

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Speaker 1: They don't want to talk about crime. All they want

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Speaker 1: to talk about is COVID, which is fair enough. But

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Speaker 1: the other problem that we've it's not about just about COVID,

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Speaker 1: it's about crime. And I came away last night feeling

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Speaker 1: completely disgusted in the government that doesn't want to talk

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Speaker 1: about the problem that just about every Terrritorian is facing,

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Speaker 1: and that is crime.

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Speaker 2: Well, and you know, Robin, we've drifted away from it

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Speaker 2: slightly this week, but I tell you what, it's still

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Speaker 2: high on the agenda for all of our listeners and

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Speaker 2: for us, and we'll make sure that we continue to

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Speaker 2: push the government on that topic. Robin Lamley, how's it

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Speaker 2: all going to play out today in Parliament?

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Speaker 1: Well, Hi, I hope we get another speech from Mark Turner,

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Speaker 1: the current members of blaming resigning from his position, and

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Speaker 1: a full commitment from the Chief Minister that he is

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Speaker 1: going to investigate not only what happened with Mark Turner

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Speaker 1: but also his member of staff, that he identifies that

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Speaker 1: member of staff and that he undertakes to support the

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Speaker 1: police in a full inquiry into this whole sordid, ugly,

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Speaker 1: scandalous business.

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Speaker 2: Robin Lamley, the Member for Ari Luin, We'll see you

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Speaker 2: tomorrow for the week that was, I'll be there. Thank you.