WEBVTT - 🔬Evidence Suggests Australian Men 👨‍🦲️ Kinda... Suck  🤢

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<v Speaker 1>Flex and Frooms, Flex and Frooms. This is the Flex

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<v Speaker 1>and Frooms catch up podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh Sweety Pies today will be full of nonsense, but

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<v Speaker 2>you'll enjoy it anyway. We've had a listener DM that's

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<v Speaker 2>talking about how Australian men suck. This is a direct

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<v Speaker 2>quote do not us was on us, but I might

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<v Speaker 2>have said it in my time. I wouldn't say it

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<v Speaker 2>in my time, I promised miss you already enjoy the potty.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Flex and Frooms on Kita.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you reckon that restaurants and pubs should be child free?

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<v Speaker 3>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very interesting that we start this conversation with just

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<v Speaker 2>a simple question because you might not notice about me,

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<v Speaker 2>but I like children a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>I like babies a lot. I like toddlers so much. Children.

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<v Speaker 2>When you get to a back like the seven six

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<v Speaker 2>to six to eighteen, bool don't really do it for me.

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<v Speaker 2>But between zero even in the womb, from in the

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<v Speaker 2>womb to about six, I'm obsessed with them. They're the

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<v Speaker 2>most smart, creative, inquisitive, cerebral people to ever exist. The

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<v Speaker 2>amount I can learn from having a conversation with a kid.

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<v Speaker 2>And also I recognize that I'm a bad person around kid.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm asking for consent. I'm assessing if they're comfortable, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>being mindful of like the words I'm using, if they understand, like,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just fantastic. And I still don't want kids in

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<v Speaker 2>pubs and restaurants. I still don't want them around. I

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<v Speaker 2>really feel like it's not just kids and adults. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like certain lifestyle like life milestones or the age

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<v Speaker 2>group you were in, should be separate. I don't even

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<v Speaker 2>think eighteen and thirty five year old.

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<v Speaker 1>Should be in the same venue. It's weird.

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<v Speaker 4>You disagree for me, Nah, I agree, it's weird.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not great.

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<v Speaker 2>We had a listener, dear must off the back of

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<v Speaker 2>our discussion about Splendor. We both went and we both

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<v Speaker 2>mused and marveled. I noticed the child population was hefty.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I don't have the stats, but I would

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<v Speaker 2>say about fifty between thirty and fifty percent of the

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<v Speaker 2>attendees were under the age of sixteen.

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<v Speaker 3>No, babe, that's a gross overestimation. I'd say ten percent.

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<v Speaker 2>And even ten is too many. Either way, it was

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<v Speaker 2>too many kids for me to be noticing kids constantly. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't one or two artists vip babies.

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<v Speaker 4>In the back. We did have a bit of a ticker.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there were kids. I would look left, kids look right,

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<v Speaker 2>kids look left, kids look right. Anyway, So Sally dmd

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<v Speaker 2>us on flex and rooms ig and asked us to

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<v Speaker 2>read this article from the Guardian. Leading quote is I

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<v Speaker 2>don't come here to enjoy other people's children. So we've

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<v Speaker 2>got Martin, who's the owner of the Whippet in a

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<v Speaker 2>boutique child free restaurant in York, and he says, being

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<v Speaker 2>in the industry thirty odd years and also out shopping

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<v Speaker 2>out in public places, how parents view the responsibility of

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<v Speaker 2>children and how that has changed is quite mind blowing.

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<v Speaker 2>It feels as though the kids are now the responsibility

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<v Speaker 2>of everybody all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Boyd continues.

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<v Speaker 2>None of the demands were particularly outrageous at his child

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<v Speaker 2>free place. But the sheer volt apple juice with water

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<v Speaker 2>in it, baby chinos. Heat this up and not too much.

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<v Speaker 2>Remove the mushrooms, the onion, the salt, the pepper. Then

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<v Speaker 2>there was the glaring at people who swear, vape or

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<v Speaker 2>give any other indication that they are an adult in

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<v Speaker 2>a pub. And this is also interesting because last week

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<v Speaker 2>we talked to a listener who was at a Lizo

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<v Speaker 2>concept and he said that because it was an all

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<v Speaker 2>ages concert. When he was in the mush, there were

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<v Speaker 2>other parents policing what other attendees could or could not

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<v Speaker 2>do in proximity to their kids. And this is this

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<v Speaker 2>is a chill gig, this is an all ages mush.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not crazy. And yet it's like, if you don't

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<v Speaker 2>want someone vaping near your kid, move your kid. Facts like,

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<v Speaker 2>are we not.

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<v Speaker 1>At a gig?

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<v Speaker 3>They're using their child as collateral to be parents. So ray,

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<v Speaker 3>sorry to say it, but you are the real problem.

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<v Speaker 2>When I say kids and adults shouldn't share the same spaces,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel as though it sucks for the adults I

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<v Speaker 2>have to be with the kids. They call them parents,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like it's not fair that they be ostracized

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<v Speaker 2>from certain spaces because they have a kid. That's not

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<v Speaker 2>fair and that's prejudicing the wrong reason. But it would

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<v Speaker 2>make sense that venues be better equipped to handle children.

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<v Speaker 2>And we understand, I mean a lot of restaurants understand

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<v Speaker 2>their core demographics, a lot of pubs understand their core demographics.

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<v Speaker 2>Why don't you create a system where it's not a

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<v Speaker 2>blight on attendees to have children here.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly, a little crash, a little play area.

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<v Speaker 4>Our celles do that kind of thing pretty well.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>McDonald's has the play.

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<v Speaker 1>Area I had. Maybe do they still have them?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>I think we're just living in the inner city bybe Oh,

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<v Speaker 4>we'll see.

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<v Speaker 1>Do kids not live in the inner city?

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<v Speaker 4>Hopefully not?

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, love one.

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<v Speaker 4>We had a.

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<v Speaker 3>Listener DM and this is not what I said. But

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<v Speaker 3>she wants to know you Australian men suck.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see this is okay through me wants to.

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<v Speaker 2>Get ahead of the narrative if she doesn't want to

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<v Speaker 2>cannibalize any of her future eligible options. So she needs

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<v Speaker 2>you to know that she's not the one who's inferring

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<v Speaker 2>that Australian men suck. Because I love she wants to

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<v Speaker 2>be on the right side of history. However, I love

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<v Speaker 2>all men, not all men.

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<v Speaker 4>I love all of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but we did get a DM from Eve.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want a DM, if it's flex and frooms

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<v Speaker 2>on Instagram voice mem I preferred. But if you're more

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<v Speaker 2>of a text based specialist, then do that.

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<v Speaker 3>She writes, Okay, flex and Frooms. I'm a longtime listener,

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<v Speaker 3>first time messenger. I absolutely love you guys. I'm from

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<v Speaker 3>the UK and moved to Australia last year. Oh oh,

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<v Speaker 3>sent most of my time in Melbourne hoping to casually

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<v Speaker 3>bump into one of you someday.

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<v Speaker 4>I was wondering what your thoughts are on Australian men.

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<v Speaker 4>This is a very terse topic.

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<v Speaker 3>Myself and a couple of brit friends have found it

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<v Speaker 3>so difficult to date due to perhaps a cultural difference

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<v Speaker 3>in how men behave over here.

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<v Speaker 4>For example, me and a friend had.

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<v Speaker 3>The same experience of going back to a guy's house

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<v Speaker 3>then them implying or expecting us to leave after seven

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<v Speaker 3>and Ozzie girls who's spoken to say that's normal for

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<v Speaker 3>them and what they want?

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<v Speaker 1>Question mark?

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<v Speaker 4>Question mark.

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<v Speaker 3>The men give off such a nonchalant energy, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 3>triggered no sense of interest or excitement. Just to clarify,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to generalize, Thank you, queen. There are

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<v Speaker 3>good guys out there, of course, and British guys are

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<v Speaker 3>certainly not all angels. All right, love, have you had

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<v Speaker 3>experiences with non Aussies and all right, love.

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<v Speaker 1>My culture. Have you had.

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<v Speaker 3>Experiences with some Aussies or non Aussies and have you

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<v Speaker 3>seen a comparison.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not often I would like to default to a

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<v Speaker 2>man when asked a broad question to me. But I

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<v Speaker 2>would love to have a census of this directed at

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<v Speaker 2>Australian man to see what to see what the issue is,

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<v Speaker 2>or to see what the contradiction is, because.

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<v Speaker 4>Surely if you're a straight man, you're interested in a woman.

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<v Speaker 3>Like like, no, I'm trying to say his, let her talk,

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<v Speaker 3>let her cook?

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<v Speaker 4>Why may he not acted interesting?

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<v Speaker 1>Can I say a few things?

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<v Speaker 2>And I I hate to paint everyone with a broad brushstroke.

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<v Speaker 4>Yet here we are, But yet.

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<v Speaker 2>Here we are this nonchalant energy that people are rightfully

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<v Speaker 2>so claiming to have experienced with Australian men. I would say,

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<v Speaker 2>Australians very nonchalant.

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<v Speaker 4>And at what cost?

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<v Speaker 1>And at what costs?

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<v Speaker 2>And I think often what Australians are struggling with is

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<v Speaker 2>you're getting a taste of your own medicine and you

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<v Speaker 2>don't like it.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't really have experience with non Australian men, having

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<v Speaker 3>grown up and living in Australia.

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<v Speaker 4>However, we have a special guest in the studio.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true, me saying Australia is not multicultural.

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<v Speaker 2>She's like I don't have an experience, but yes we

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<v Speaker 2>do have someone who has dated in the wild.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, Sophie, So we welcome to the studio Kyoto team.

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<v Speaker 5>Hi.

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<v Speaker 2>Sophie does our social media In case you're wondering, what

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<v Speaker 2>is this third sometimes fourth voice that pops oh yeah, often.

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<v Speaker 4>Laughing in the background.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, no, Hi, I've just moved from New Zealand and

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<v Speaker 6>experience I sing a little bit of this Australian dating culture.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell us everything, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>When I saw the.

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<v Speaker 6>DM that came into the page about how Australian men

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<v Speaker 6>and nonchalant, I could not agree more.

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<v Speaker 1>They stuck? Can you put it politely?

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I don't want to get stuck on

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<v Speaker 2>the term nonchalant because we might not all have the

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<v Speaker 2>same meaning of it.

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<v Speaker 1>But so if you had to pull that out, turn one.

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<v Speaker 2>Word into forty five et agreat, what is the nonchalance

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<v Speaker 2>you're experiencing?

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<v Speaker 6>So I think with Australian men there just doesn't seem to.

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<v Speaker 1>Be the care factor.

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<v Speaker 6>And I don't know if this is because of the

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<v Speaker 6>dating world in general, how there's just so many options.

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<v Speaker 6>But I feel like you come to Australia, maybe you

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<v Speaker 6>meet a guy, maybe it's on a dating app. Maybe

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<v Speaker 6>it's out you go for a little drink and then

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<v Speaker 6>there's just not They're like, you know what, i want

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<v Speaker 6>to put in the effort here. I'm going to try

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<v Speaker 6>a little bit harder. I want to I want to

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<v Speaker 6>do the chase a little bit. They sit back and

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<v Speaker 6>they go, yeah, it's fun, Like, see, maybe should we

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<v Speaker 6>maybe do that? No, tell me what we're doing, want

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<v Speaker 6>me like put in the f There was this guy

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<v Speaker 6>I was talking to on a hinge. Yeah, no, okay,

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<v Speaker 6>multiple roastings could occur, but we'll go with this one

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<v Speaker 6>exchanged one or two messages. I replied to a message

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<v Speaker 6>and he just goes cool, thumbs up, but hush, and

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<v Speaker 6>he goes, well, I'm not here for a bloody pen pal.

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<v Speaker 3>That's rowing.

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<v Speaker 4>I am scarred. I'm not trying anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>He said, listen, less talkie, more touchy.

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<v Speaker 1>So okay.

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<v Speaker 4>And is it different in New Zealand.

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<v Speaker 6>I would say New Zealand is relatively similar to Australia.

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<v Speaker 6>New Zealand there's almost more this lad culture, which I

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<v Speaker 6>do see a little bit in New Zealand where all

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<v Speaker 6>the lads sort of stick together.

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<v Speaker 1>If a couple of the lads.

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<v Speaker 6>In the group have girlfriends, then they all will have

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<v Speaker 6>girlfriends at the same time. If one of the lads

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<v Speaker 6>is like single and then a couple others become single,

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<v Speaker 6>they're all single.

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<v Speaker 4>They stick to each other.

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<v Speaker 6>It's almost like, honestly, oh, solidarity, yes, go anywhere else

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<v Speaker 6>in the world. Do you go up to Europe like

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<v Speaker 6>you were saying, or in America and there's so much

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<v Speaker 6>more forward in a bar that will come up to

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<v Speaker 6>you and be like, hey, can I buy your drink?

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<v Speaker 6>Neither once in Australia has anyone. Maybe this is just

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<v Speaker 6>me ask me if I want a drink in a bar.

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<v Speaker 1>The only time everyone's saying, don't tress.

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<v Speaker 3>You're gonna say, the only time a drink's been bought

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<v Speaker 3>for me when I was underage.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not really are worried experience.

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<v Speaker 2>I've experienced what you've experienced. But in my earlier stages

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<v Speaker 2>of dating. I think it changed when I got older

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<v Speaker 2>because I was just far less. I mean, we all

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<v Speaker 2>have we have different energies in the room. I just

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<v Speaker 2>feel like generally people already perceive me to be hard work,

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<v Speaker 2>so nobody who's going to be nonchalant really is going

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<v Speaker 2>to try and if they do, I'm like, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>it was never going to be u king. It was

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<v Speaker 2>never going to be you. So I think there's also

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<v Speaker 2>that I feel like part of the Australian and biproxy

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<v Speaker 2>and musical and charm is being really agreeable, really approachable,

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<v Speaker 2>a good time, casual, down for a laugh, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not giving off that energy in the same way I

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<v Speaker 2>can be all of those things. So I think I'm

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<v Speaker 2>being approached with a different energy. Let's like you're out

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<v Speaker 2>in like an Australian bar or whatever, you know exactly

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm talking about, where people are peacocking in this

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<v Speaker 2>very like.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm one of the girls. I'm one of the lines.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm just so casual and lay back and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 5>let's do a Sean and whatever and don't talk to

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<v Speaker 5>anyone at any time and no topic is too lost

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<v Speaker 5>bar for me, it's Australian cool girl pandemic and Australian

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<v Speaker 5>cool boy pandemic. And if we don't know what that

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<v Speaker 5>looks like, imagine being at a year five prom or

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<v Speaker 5>formal and all the guys are to the left and

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<v Speaker 5>all the girls are to the right, and when they

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<v Speaker 5>eventually join forces pretend to be each other. They all

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<v Speaker 5>kind of devolve into this like one archetype of person

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<v Speaker 5>outside after nine pm, I love music, I love I

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<v Speaker 5>love drinks, and then before you know it, it's two

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<v Speaker 5>am and you start getting desperate, getting against.

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<v Speaker 1>The issue with issue. Bye. You You're desperate and directionless.

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<v Speaker 4>You have never in your life since very sure.

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<v Speaker 1>In that closing statement.

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<v Speaker 4>Flex and frims on Kidis.

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<v Speaker 2>In case you thought the Internet has matured out of

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<v Speaker 2>death hoaxes, you would be wrong. There's a has been

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<v Speaker 2>some would say internet sensation. Lil Tay popped off around

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<v Speaker 2>twenty seventeen and twenty eighteen. Her whole shtick was being

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<v Speaker 2>a really rich, rude baller twelve year old would come

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<v Speaker 2>on the internet, swear, throw money around, wear big jewelry,

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<v Speaker 2>just a hard watch because you kind of like, don't

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<v Speaker 2>say that word, babe, don't say that word, and we'll

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<v Speaker 2>just start fighting the internet.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the whole brand.

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<v Speaker 4>So she kind of like cash me outside girl.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, baby antagonist, that's exactly it. And so she disappeared

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<v Speaker 2>around twenty eighteen, went into obscurity. That's just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>how it goes, and nobody ever thought about her because

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<v Speaker 2>it was a blip in the radar of the Internet

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<v Speaker 2>until she skyrocketed back to fame in about August twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty three, when she was pronounced dead via Instagram. Yep,

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<v Speaker 2>everyone's like, oh, that's so sad, like Lil Tait has died.

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<v Speaker 2>Haven't heard anything about her for a little while.

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<v Speaker 1>Strange.

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<v Speaker 2>Immediately, people were skeptical because her kind of stick was

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<v Speaker 2>a bit like troll ish. She was a troll on

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<v Speaker 2>the Internet. People were kind of like, oh, this is

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<v Speaker 2>just a ploy to garner some clicks and some interest

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<v Speaker 2>for her big comeback. We get what's happening here, And

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<v Speaker 2>so they noticed that the date in which they said

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<v Speaker 2>she was born and died doesn't add up to her

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<v Speaker 2>current age, so it was two years off, which was strange.

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<v Speaker 2>Her family, like her brother and her parents hadn't come

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<v Speaker 2>out and said anything to confirm whether or not she

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<v Speaker 2>was dead. And then law enforcement was contacted and they said,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't have anything on file for this person and

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<v Speaker 2>being dead, so we don't know what's happening here. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>the internet' sluse of the world went so far as

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<v Speaker 2>to get meta as in mister Facebook involved to figure

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<v Speaker 2>out if this minor had really died or not, or

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<v Speaker 2>if this was just like fake news. One oh one,

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<v Speaker 2>so Meta came out and said this otherwise dormant account

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<v Speaker 2>had been hacked by someone was an inside job from

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<v Speaker 2>her parents. People say, because they'd already they'd always been

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<v Speaker 2>quite money hungry and were, you know, kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>show parents from the side, pandering to the crowd potentially.

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<v Speaker 2>But I say this all to say, it's been confirmed,

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<v Speaker 2>Lil Tay is not dead, and we're thankful and grateful

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<v Speaker 2>for that. But the bit that gets me is that

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<v Speaker 2>this suspicious, critical, nosy way of the Internet is finally

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<v Speaker 2>paying off for good. It confuses me how people saw

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<v Speaker 2>this announcement of a death and immediately said no, something's

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<v Speaker 2>off and they were right, hunch, because had the internet

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<v Speaker 2>not have done the work of detail, how would she

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<v Speaker 2>have indicated herself. How would she have proven into the

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<v Speaker 2>world that she was not She didn't have access to

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<v Speaker 2>her account, what she was going to make a new one?

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<v Speaker 4>So where is she? Have we heard from it?

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<v Speaker 2>She's online? Okay, she doesn't want to be online anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was part of the whole thing where she's like,

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<v Speaker 2>she wasn't going to come on and defend herself. She

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<v Speaker 2>didn't want to be exposed to people, so the Internet did.

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<v Speaker 1>The work for her.

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<v Speaker 4>How fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is a good news story to begin with.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, lil.

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<v Speaker 1>You're welcome.

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<v Speaker 4>Will take.

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<v Speaker 2>I have said in my time, be careful who you

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<v Speaker 2>date for fear of increasing their stock. I didn't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't clear that I was speaking very plainly. I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't hear the riddle in my tone what I mean

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<v Speaker 2>by that? Everyone. And this is a cautionary tale, coming

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<v Speaker 2>from someone who has quite positive dating experiences.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen many an.

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<v Speaker 2>Eligible bachelor bachelorette go down for not heeding this morning. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>we are all reflections of the people we keep closest

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<v Speaker 2>to us, good, bad, neutral, and everything in between. And

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<v Speaker 2>the more time you spend with someone, the more your

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<v Speaker 2>characteristics merge, or at least the perception of your characteristics.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone thinks I'm funnier because rooms is a comedian.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want everyone things about me because I'm with you.

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<v Speaker 1>They think you're a businesswoman than you think.

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<v Speaker 4>Shugga shugga.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, like I can imagine people who maybe

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<v Speaker 2>didn't like my personality now find me far more appealing

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<v Speaker 2>because they like you a lot, or vice versa, right, Like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>what do they have in common? They must get along

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<v Speaker 2>really well. I want to know more about vice or versa.

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<v Speaker 2>It just happens in small ways. But where it happens

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<v Speaker 2>a lot, and I notice myself catching myself is when

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<v Speaker 2>I see a couple and I observe one to be

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<v Speaker 2>of higher stock, higher quality, higher pedigree, higher caliber than

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<v Speaker 2>their partner, I start to like apply positive characteristics to

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<v Speaker 2>the partner based on what I know about the person

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<v Speaker 2>I see.

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<v Speaker 1>To be better.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So let's say I have a best friend and

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<v Speaker 2>he's dating a bum. The more time these two day,

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<v Speaker 2>I start to question my original perception. Oh well, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>like he's actually quite nice, Maybe they're well suited, maybe this,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe that, whatever it might be. The reason why I'm

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<v Speaker 2>warning you is because a lot of people don't recognize

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<v Speaker 2>the exchange when they're dating, the mental exchange, the physical exchange,

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<v Speaker 2>the financial transaction, the emotional transaction, the spiritual transaction. And

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<v Speaker 2>if you're not aware of that transaction happening, it's because

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<v Speaker 2>you're being robbed.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, wow, it's because you're being.

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<v Speaker 2>Robbed if you can't figure out what is the transaction

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<v Speaker 2>between you and the person you're dating. And I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>saying it has to be higher level. It might be

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<v Speaker 2>with Frum and I. We get along really well, we

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<v Speaker 2>work together really well. It's beneficial for us to share

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<v Speaker 2>our stories to get to know each other better because

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<v Speaker 2>it makes us better friends, better co host. There's a

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<v Speaker 2>transaction happening. If you can't tell the transaction is you're

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<v Speaker 2>being rubbed, babe. They are siphoning from you your energy,

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<v Speaker 2>your clout, your empathy, your patience, your humor, your attractiveness.

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<v Speaker 2>All of that is being siphoned.

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<v Speaker 3>So is the example of that. Like, let's say you're

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<v Speaker 3>dating someone who is like not showing up for you

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<v Speaker 3>in the way that you want, but you're just with

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<v Speaker 3>them because you want company.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Or for example, you might be in a relationship

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<v Speaker 2>with someone where you're kind of like, gosh, like you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, they're just like not the best, Like I

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<v Speaker 2>can't really rely on them.

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<v Speaker 1>But gosh they're hot. Oh gosh, they're hot.

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<v Speaker 2>But then you have to think to yourself, if they're

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<v Speaker 2>not showing up for you and you can't rely on them,

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<v Speaker 2>are you reliable? Is that what they're siphoning from you?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you consistent. Have you opened up their social network

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<v Speaker 2>and given them seventeen new friends they didn't have before?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you always paying for dinner?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? There it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm not saying be tit for tat.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying, be aware of the transaction so you

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<v Speaker 2>can be grateful for what is happening, so you can

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<v Speaker 2>truly appreciate.

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<v Speaker 1>Gosh, this person.

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<v Speaker 2>I respect want to spend their time with me, They

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<v Speaker 2>want to talk to me, they want to share me

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<v Speaker 2>with their friends. But if that's not happening, babes, sumthe's ofs.

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<v Speaker 2>Beware the person you date for you could be what.

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<v Speaker 4>Boosting their stock.

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