1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:01,800 Speaker 1: Joining me on the line because we know that we're 2 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: heading into the King's Birthday weekend. 3 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 2: It's going to be an awesome long weekend. 4 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 1: It always is, and there is plenty of top end 5 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: residents making the trek to Central Australia for the. 6 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:13,399 Speaker 2: Tats Fink Desert Race. 7 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 1: It is, as you know, an off road multi terrain 8 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 1: two day race for bikes, cars, buggies. It goes through 9 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 1: the desert. It is amazing to see. Daniel Rochford, the 10 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: CEO of Tourism Central Australia, joins us on the line 11 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: to tell us a bit more. 12 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 3: Hi Daniel, good morning, Katie, Good morning to you listeners. 13 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 2: You guys must be partly jumped up. 14 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 3: Absolutely, mate, it's going to be a great weekend. It's cool, 15 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 3: Chris morning's here in our springs, so everyone's rugged up, 16 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 3: and we've got the opening tonight of the Street Carnival, 17 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 3: which is the sort of opening part of the Pink 18 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 3: Desert Race. So yeah, really excited. 19 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: There is nothing quite like Fink Weekend, really, is there. Yeah. 20 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 3: Well, actually this year is a little bit too diferent too, 21 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 3: because we've got another event too that's running parallel. We've 22 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 3: got a folk Festival, which for those long term territorians 23 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 3: will know that Alice Springs used to have the National 24 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 3: Folk Festival and that and there's been a bit of 25 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 3: a reguard action locally to get another folk festival started 26 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:24,479 Speaker 3: and that's also happening this weekend too, so two different 27 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 3: crowds and two different but everyone having an awesome time. 28 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: So how many people are and Alice Springs at the 29 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: moment is it absolutely bustling. 30 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 3: I flew in yesterday from Adelaide and it was just 31 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 3: so great to see the flight attendant saying, we this 32 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 3: flight is at capacity, so make sure all your trolley 33 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 3: bags are so approp really so, you know, we you know, 34 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 3: was looking at the Todd Mall today. You know there's 35 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 3: quite a lot of people in the streets of information 36 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 3: centers buzzing and yeah, it's really great to see. 37 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: It is It would be amazing and you know a 38 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: bit of a reminder I think of what makes Alice 39 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: Springs wonderful and what makes Central Australia such a great 40 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: place when you see tourists and visitors from right around 41 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 1: Australia and everywhere else there for two wonderful events. 42 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, and it's great to see. And you know, 43 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 3: the feedback that we've been getting from our visitors is 44 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 3: that once they've traveled here, you know, they've obviously been 45 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 3: a bit cautious with the national media that's been talking 46 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,239 Speaker 3: about our crime issues. But the feedback I've been getting 47 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 3: is that once they've traveled here, they've just had the 48 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 3: best experience possible. And you know, we're encouraging all of 49 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 3: them to tell the world that get on social media 50 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 3: and let your family and friends know how great your 51 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 3: time was had here. And you know, I'm sure we'll 52 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 3: see a lot more of those comments next week. 53 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is good. That's really good to hear. 54 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: So, Daniel, have things come down quite a bit when 55 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,519 Speaker 1: it comes to crime as a result of the different 56 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: actions that have been taken, Yeah, there's. 57 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 3: No doubt, Katie. And you know, we do see a 58 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 3: natural decline of crime during winter months. You know, we 59 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 3: call it comfortable cold here and you know, at the 60 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,239 Speaker 3: end of the day, but you know, there's still incidents 61 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 3: and we can't not recognize that. But you know, compared 62 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 3: to the severity of our summer months, it's nothing in comparison. 63 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 3: So look, you know, hopefully the measures that the government 64 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 3: have been putting in place, are kicking in and you know, 65 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 3: there's no doubt I'm seeing an increased police presence in 66 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 3: the town and you know that is what we've been 67 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 3: calling for for a long time. 68 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, hey, Daniel, are the majority of visitors from 69 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: the Northern Territory into state or overseas for Fink and 70 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: also for the folk festival, all. 71 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 3: Of the above. Yeah, we've certainly seen, you know, having 72 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 3: a look at people coming in on that flight yesterday 73 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 3: there was three quarters of a seven three seven were 74 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 3: full of people coming to Think and they all had 75 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 3: their pink hoodies on and their pink caps on. You know, 76 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 3: they are long term people who come to Think every 77 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 3: year and you know they're from all over the country, 78 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 3: a lot of people from the territory. Of course, remember 79 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 3: until June thirty, we've still got twenty five percent off 80 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 3: all territory experiences at the Alice Springs Information Center at 81 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 3: the moment, so there's even you can get a little 82 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 3: bit more off. Cost of travel to Alice Springs and 83 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 3: Central Australia were thanks to the government. So you know, 84 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 3: we're encouraging people to while they're here, to get amongst 85 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 3: it and get out there. 86 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, why not, you know, why not get to Central 87 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 1: Australia if you're able to do so. I've got a 88 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: lot of friends actually that are traveling there this weekend 89 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: for the Fink, which is great to see. And here, Daniel, 90 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: I don't even think I've spoken to you really too 91 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: much since the ending of those Bonds of Flights. How 92 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: has that been since, you know, since we sort of 93 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: learned of the woes of Bonza. 94 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're certainly gutted, Katie. You know, we put our 95 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 3: hearts and soul into advocating for the Bonds of Flights, 96 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 3: and you know, there was a very different circumstance to 97 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 3: what you guys have based up in Darwin. You know, 98 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 3: the community really embraced bondser Here there was not one 99 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 3: flight that was ever canceled in and out of Alice 100 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 3: Springs and we were seeing load factors of near ninety 101 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 3: percent across each flight. And you know, you know, you 102 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 3: and I have talked long and loud about the costs 103 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 3: of airfares in and out of Outle Springs and we've 104 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 3: we've got a ray of something light thanks to bonds 105 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 3: are but you know, it's certainly an impact not only 106 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 3: for Alice Springs, but right across regional and or rebout Australia. 107 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,479 Speaker 3: And you know, I think one of the things I 108 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 3: take out of this is to is to basically say, 109 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 3: Bonds approved that there is a market willing to travel 110 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 3: to and from the Northern Territory for less and you know, 111 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:08,919 Speaker 3: Bonds approved that. And you know, I guess that's the 112 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 3: thing that we've been now saying to government is you 113 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 3: know that that shows that through the Territory Aviation Attraction scheme, 114 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 3: we should be encouraging new aviation partners that put affordable 115 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 3: affairs in place and get people traveling. Because what we 116 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 3: saw was with Bonds was people you know, going for 117 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 3: that extra trip away. It was more a livability piece 118 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 3: than it was a tourism piece for us. 119 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you, and you know, in terms 120 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 1: of that connectivity for regional Australia, it just made such 121 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: a big difference for people. I was, you know, look, 122 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: I understand these things are commercial decisions and that there's 123 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 1: a lot of factors at play, but it was it 124 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: was disappointing I think for regional Australia. 125 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly right. And I think I think regional and 126 00:06:55,960 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 3: remote Australia has been hurting as a result of pricing 127 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 3: strategies of current carriers, and you know, there's no doubt 128 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 3: that bonds that provide that ray of light for many 129 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 3: communities in Alice Springs was is just one of them, 130 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 3: and we embraced it with great gusto. And look, you know, 131 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 3: we'll see, you know, in the in the light of 132 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 3: day what their issues were. But you know, it sounds 133 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 3: like it wasn't so much the economic sustainability of the 134 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 3: airline here locally, but the parent company being the major issue. 135 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 3: And you know that's unfortunate for all of regional and 136 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 3: remote Australia. 137 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 2: It truly is. 138 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: Well. Daniel Rochford, great to speak with you this morning. 139 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: I hope you have an awesome weekend. I've no doubt 140 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: it is going to be busy, busy. What's the highlight 141 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: for you when it comes to think? 142 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 3: I think going out to the start finish line and 143 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 3: just the buzz of the whole being is just amazing. 144 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 3: And you know that starts off tonight with the street party. 145 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 3: So I think my message to all the folk from 146 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 3: the top ends who are coming down in the next 147 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 3: day or two rug up a rist clear and yeah, 148 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 3: make sure you pack a puffa jacket. 149 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: Oh. I remember well the year I went to Think 150 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: it was absolutely freezing. I had a puffer jacket on 151 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: and my husband Will it was my boyfriend at the time, 152 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: was telling me I looked like Mitchell and Man because 153 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: I literally had the biggest puffa jacket on. 154 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 2: That you've ever seen, Daniel, because it was that cold. 155 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 3: I think there will be a lot of beautiful clear 156 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 3: nights and hopefully some fires going into marshmallows being tasted. 157 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 3: It's awesome marve weekend and it's really great to see 158 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 3: so many people around it. 159 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,719 Speaker 2: Truly is. I'm really glad to hear it. 160 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: I hope it all goes off without a hitch, as 161 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: well as that folk festival as well. Good to speak 162 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: with you this morning, Daniel Rochford, CEO of Tourism Central Australia. 163 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 2: Thanks Katy, thank you,