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Speaker 1: It's their Happy Family's podcast Richard Marx q pac No kids,

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Speaker 1: Well you and me go to a rich Marx concert,

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Speaker 1: my honey.

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Speaker 2: At least I get to do a next year.

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Speaker 1: You know how at the start of the podcast, j R.

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Speaker 1: Always puts the best part of the podcast right there

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Speaker 1: that I think is a big quote. If he doesn't

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Speaker 1: do it, he didn't think it was as good as

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Speaker 1: you and I did. And now here's the stars of

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Speaker 1: our show, my mum and dad. Hello, this is doctor

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Speaker 1: Justin Colson, the founder of Happy Families dot com dot you.

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Speaker 1: I've been such a good mood today because it's Friday.

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Speaker 1: But do you know what I'm really excited about, Kylie?

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Speaker 1: I think I know, yeah, yeah, yeah, Well that's because

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Speaker 1: you heard me quing a few things up and getting

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Speaker 1: ready here on on YouTube. Right. So when you say,

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Speaker 1: what what do we? What have I I'm.

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Speaker 2: Being dragged along to a concert night.

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Speaker 1: So we going to a concert tonight. I'm so excited

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Speaker 1: we go to a concert? And how excited are you?

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Speaker 2: Concerts aren't really my thing? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Come on, but what about song? Do you remember? Do

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Speaker 1: you remember when we were dating? I'm sure I must

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Speaker 1: have sung this to you. You remember this song. Remember yeah, So, folks,

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Speaker 1: we are going to see Richard Marx tonight.

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Speaker 2: At Q Pak.

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Speaker 1: Boom. Remember this. It's going to be so great. I

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Speaker 1: cannot wait. This is what parenting is all about, having

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Speaker 1: a night off from the kids. So asleep, you are

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Speaker 1: going to get into trouble.

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Speaker 2: Tickets in cost you half as much as Billy Joel.

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Speaker 1: We're going to be hearing great songs like this. Remember,

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Speaker 1: Richard Marx is amazing, big hair a great stuff. You're

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Speaker 1: my favorite song of all the Richard Marks songs. Though,

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Speaker 1: tell me that I have a guess. Can you remember

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Speaker 1: the what do you think would be the best one?

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Speaker 1: I love right here waiting great stuff? You're not You're

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Speaker 1: not guessing. You're looking at me like you don't know

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Speaker 1: any of your songs, so you can't possibly guess about

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Speaker 1: this one. This one.

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Speaker 2: I'm sad.

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Speaker 1: I love this one Hazard and you know what I

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Speaker 1: love about this song? You just don't know what happened?

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Speaker 2: I know was what's so devastating?

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Speaker 1: Was a creep? I mean he's he's singing the song

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Speaker 1: something bad happen. I'm so excited tonight. I'm so palmed.

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Speaker 1: This is like a I get to relive my mid

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Speaker 1: to late adolescents, early adolescents. I can't even remember what

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Speaker 1: years it was. But Richard Marx Q pack no kids,

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Speaker 1: well you were me, baby, are.

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Speaker 2: Richard Mark's concept? My honey? At least I get to

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Speaker 2: do it next year.

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Speaker 1: That might be the line of the day. I think

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Speaker 1: that needs to be our A big quote. Like you

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Speaker 1: know how at the start of the podcast, Jr. Always

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Speaker 1: I think is he's if he doesn't do it, he

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Speaker 1: didn't think it was as good as you and I

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Speaker 1: did as well as I did anyway. Hey, so that's

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Speaker 1: that's enough personal news for now. We've got some more

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Speaker 1: big news. We're going to talk more about this next week.

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Speaker 1: But we have a daughter who's about to leave home,

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Speaker 1: like literally leave home and move as far away just

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Speaker 2: We've got three more sleeps.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, other side of the world. Do a number two.

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Speaker 2: Well she might be doing a number two, but we've

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Speaker 2: There's nothing like real life experience. Yeah, yeah, to teach

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Speaker 1: This is so hard. I'm sick of the kids. I

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Speaker 2: I've been physically unwell for much of the week, and.

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Speaker 1: for people who are dealing with depression, anxiety and so on,

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Speaker 1: But sometimes that's actually all you need. Just fake it

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Speaker 2: And so the mood kind of for me has shifted,

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Speaker 1: And when you say you called your dad and us

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Speaker 1: He did, well, I'll drive for an hour and forty

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Speaker 1: That's my takeover, Kylie. I really love that that story

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Speaker 1: and I'm grateful they shared it. It also reminds me

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Speaker 1: how we can be better. The Happy Families podcast is

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Speaker 1: produced by Justin Rulan from Bridge Media. Craig Bruce is

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Speaker 1: our executive producer. Hey, we really hope that you have

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