WEBVTT - Antonio & Ralph - MASTERCHEF AUSTRALIA - TV Personalities

0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:01.760
<v Speaker 1>It's in the news today, but it was actually on

0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:05.240
<v Speaker 1>TV Reload the podcast last weep. Theirline welcome back guys

0:00:05.240 --> 0:00:07.480
<v Speaker 1>to TV Reload. My name, as you would know, is

0:00:07.520 --> 0:00:10.240
<v Speaker 1>Benjamin Norris, and this is your podcast to get all

0:00:10.280 --> 0:00:12.720
<v Speaker 1>the inside goss all the popular TV shows you may

0:00:12.760 --> 0:00:16.080
<v Speaker 1>be watching from around the world. Undeniably, our TV sets

0:00:16.079 --> 0:00:18.479
<v Speaker 1>are a major part of our home entertainment, and yet

0:00:18.760 --> 0:00:21.560
<v Speaker 1>very little is known about how our favorite shows get made.

0:00:21.680 --> 0:00:23.880
<v Speaker 1>So I've been finding guests that want to dive just

0:00:23.920 --> 0:00:26.520
<v Speaker 1>that little bit deeper into the shows they're currently making,

0:00:26.720 --> 0:00:29.040
<v Speaker 1>so that you can hear all their exclusive stories and

0:00:29.080 --> 0:00:32.080
<v Speaker 1>gain access to the biggest names in Australian television. I

0:00:32.120 --> 0:00:34.239
<v Speaker 1>want to thank you for downloading or subscribing to this

0:00:34.280 --> 0:00:37.279
<v Speaker 1>podcast however you've found it. I love hearing your feedback,

0:00:37.440 --> 0:00:39.559
<v Speaker 1>so make sure you leave a review or a comment

0:00:39.760 --> 0:00:43.159
<v Speaker 1>on your chosen podcast platform. This episode of the podcast,

0:00:43.200 --> 0:00:47.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm joined by Antonio and Ralph, both eliminated from MasterChef

0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:51.839
<v Speaker 1>Australia twenty twenty three Secrets and Surprises. Antonio Cruz Vermond

0:00:51.960 --> 0:00:54.279
<v Speaker 1>is a thirty four year old software developer from New

0:00:54.320 --> 0:00:58.280
<v Speaker 1>South Wales, originally from Venezuela, Antonio moved to Australia in

0:00:58.320 --> 0:01:01.320
<v Speaker 1>twenty fifteen and within search of a better life. He

0:01:01.360 --> 0:01:03.640
<v Speaker 1>said he wanted to attribute his love of food to

0:01:03.680 --> 0:01:06.160
<v Speaker 1>his family and you know what, I really do feel

0:01:06.160 --> 0:01:08.679
<v Speaker 1>like that came across, so that's a big win for him.

0:01:09.120 --> 0:01:11.560
<v Speaker 1>Ralph Kehango is a thirty two year old auditor from

0:01:11.560 --> 0:01:15.039
<v Speaker 1>Western Australia. Born in Zimbabwe and raised in South Africa.

0:01:15.360 --> 0:01:18.360
<v Speaker 1>Ralph moved to Australia at a very young age. Than

0:01:18.400 --> 0:01:21.600
<v Speaker 1>At university, he achieved a Master of Accounting degree, but

0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:25.040
<v Speaker 1>after five years as a government auditor, he's decided to

0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:28.840
<v Speaker 1>pursue his passion for cooking. You will hear both contestants

0:01:28.880 --> 0:01:31.040
<v Speaker 1>open up about their time on the show and get

0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:34.440
<v Speaker 1>more insights into what really went down during production. I

0:01:34.480 --> 0:01:36.959
<v Speaker 1>will ask about their highs and lows and how their

0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:40.880
<v Speaker 1>families influence their time in the Master Chef kitchen. Antonio

0:01:40.920 --> 0:01:44.360
<v Speaker 1>Bulunpaki's final cook and we will talk about Maggie Beer's

0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:47.480
<v Speaker 1>appearance on the show. Ralph does discuss why it is

0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:50.160
<v Speaker 1>anyone's game at this point and what he really thought

0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:53.840
<v Speaker 1>about going up against a very tough competition. This week, plus,

0:01:53.880 --> 0:01:56.280
<v Speaker 1>we will get plenty of exclusives behind the scenes of

0:01:56.320 --> 0:02:00.000
<v Speaker 1>Masterschef Australia Secrets and Surprises, which is currently on Network

0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:02.520
<v Speaker 1>and you can catch up on ten Play if you've

0:02:02.520 --> 0:02:06.240
<v Speaker 1>fallen just that little bit behind. Anyway, let's bring Antonio

0:02:06.280 --> 0:02:09.000
<v Speaker 1>into the podcast first and stick around for Ralph, who

0:02:09.000 --> 0:02:13.200
<v Speaker 1>will pop in straight after. Congratulations Antonio. I just want

0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:15.920
<v Speaker 1>to say, what an amazing achievement to make it to

0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:18.280
<v Speaker 1>the top ten of Mastership Australia.

0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:21.000
<v Speaker 2>It was definitely a dream and yeah, I enjoy every

0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:21.960
<v Speaker 2>second of the whole thing.

0:02:22.200 --> 0:02:24.720
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, it was a very emotional end

0:02:24.760 --> 0:02:26.680
<v Speaker 1>to your time on the show. How did you go

0:02:26.840 --> 0:02:29.320
<v Speaker 1>watching it back? I mean, was that a little stressful?

0:02:29.520 --> 0:02:31.400
<v Speaker 2>It was funny because I had all my friends around

0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:33.840
<v Speaker 2>me and I didn't tell them, so I wanted to

0:02:33.880 --> 0:02:37.640
<v Speaker 2>get their reactions. So but I need to admit I

0:02:37.639 --> 0:02:40.720
<v Speaker 2>got a little bit teary again. So but it's all good,

0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:43.240
<v Speaker 2>Like it was good to you know, see myself there

0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:46.280
<v Speaker 2>and yeah, just enjoy with my friends. It was lovely.

0:02:46.600 --> 0:02:49.360
<v Speaker 1>It's very common that people don't tell their friends and family.

0:02:49.520 --> 0:02:51.360
<v Speaker 1>I want to know, do the producers tell you that

0:02:51.400 --> 0:02:53.359
<v Speaker 1>you're not allowed to tell anyone or is that kind

0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:54.440
<v Speaker 1>of up to your own discretion.

0:02:54.840 --> 0:02:57.760
<v Speaker 2>They probably don't want you to say anything. But I

0:02:57.800 --> 0:03:00.400
<v Speaker 2>think from my end, I wanted to get a you know,

0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:04.480
<v Speaker 2>a very truthful reaction from them, so I was never

0:03:04.600 --> 0:03:06.720
<v Speaker 2>I never told them you know, how I went and

0:03:06.760 --> 0:03:09.040
<v Speaker 2>when I went, and because I really wanted to get there,

0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:11.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, the proper reaction, which I think if I

0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:13.440
<v Speaker 2>tell them, I would have been robbing you from the

0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:16.400
<v Speaker 2>whole experience. So yeah, I don't know, like I think

0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:18.880
<v Speaker 2>they enjoyed it. They they call me names afterwards.

0:03:18.880 --> 0:03:21.520
<v Speaker 1>But I'm shocked that you told no one, not even

0:03:21.520 --> 0:03:21.920
<v Speaker 1>your mom.

0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:26.160
<v Speaker 2>No, I didn't. Yeah, I did keep it all to myself. Wow,

0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:28.480
<v Speaker 2>not even my mom. I think he was like, oh you,

0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:29.960
<v Speaker 2>why did you do this to me?

0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:33.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I feel like the only person I would

0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:35.680
<v Speaker 1>probably tell would be my therapist.

0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:38.800
<v Speaker 2>Because confidentiality agreement.

0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:40.360
<v Speaker 1>Right, I guess you would have to worry about your

0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:43.040
<v Speaker 1>confidentiality agreement. It's probably a good way to play it,

0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:45.880
<v Speaker 1>you know. Watching you being so emotional last night, I wondered,

0:03:46.080 --> 0:03:48.240
<v Speaker 1>is there more tears and tantrums that we don't get

0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:50.320
<v Speaker 1>to say, or are we saying everything that happens in

0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:50.840
<v Speaker 1>the kitchen.

0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:54.600
<v Speaker 2>Maybe I don't know, like there's definitely a lot of

0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:56.960
<v Speaker 2>people and there I don't think there's enough cameras to

0:03:56.960 --> 0:03:59.960
<v Speaker 2>go everyone. But I think they do try to keep

0:04:00.560 --> 0:04:02.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, keep true to what's happening in the kitchen,

0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:06.400
<v Speaker 2>and they I mean, they do want to show your emotions,

0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:08.600
<v Speaker 2>which is you know what I really like about this

0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:12.720
<v Speaker 2>this sort of show mastershaw It's very wholesome and they

0:04:12.720 --> 0:04:14.920
<v Speaker 2>always want to portray you as you are and not

0:04:15.200 --> 0:04:17.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, like something you're not. And I mean if

0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:20.479
<v Speaker 2>you're a teary, if you're happy, if you're angry, I

0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:23.920
<v Speaker 2>think it'll well, you know, shine through the TV at

0:04:23.960 --> 0:04:24.320
<v Speaker 2>some point.

0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:26.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's kind of the magic of this show.

0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:29.559
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Mastership Australia does feel I mean, I feel

0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:31.880
<v Speaker 1>like you can tell that there's less tricks to the edit.

0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:33.719
<v Speaker 2>And I think even if there was any sort of

0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:36.320
<v Speaker 2>trick create people could see through it. So I think

0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:39.279
<v Speaker 2>they're just you know, keeping themselves honest and just showing

0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:40.839
<v Speaker 2>who everyone is really.

0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:43.600
<v Speaker 1>This show obviously gets is pre recorded, so you've had

0:04:43.600 --> 0:04:46.320
<v Speaker 1>some time to recover. But what has that aftermath been

0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:48.719
<v Speaker 1>like for you? Do you think that pushing yourself in

0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:51.320
<v Speaker 1>the competition the way that you did has been good

0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:51.640
<v Speaker 1>for you.

0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:52.480
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah.

0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:56.080
<v Speaker 2>I mean, look, it's it's an opportunity of growth every

0:04:56.080 --> 0:05:00.000
<v Speaker 2>single cook. I think, you know, probably if I look back,

0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:01.960
<v Speaker 2>I would have said, oh, maybe I shouldn't have gone

0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:05.159
<v Speaker 2>with something too risky. But I mean I wanted to

0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:08.600
<v Speaker 2>have my full on mastership experience, and I didn't want

0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:10.560
<v Speaker 2>to repeat myself because you know, I could have just

0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:13.920
<v Speaker 2>done maybe an Eclaire a Federal because they like that

0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:17.760
<v Speaker 2>shoe patry comes really natural to me. But I wanted

0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:21.240
<v Speaker 2>to push the limit. And funnily enough, I practiced my

0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:25.600
<v Speaker 2>raugh puff recipe probably like three days before that shoot,

0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:29.240
<v Speaker 2>because I would keep practicing every single week because I

0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:32.040
<v Speaker 2>knew at some point I wanted to, you know, show

0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:34.880
<v Speaker 2>the judges. But yeah, that just wasn't my day to

0:05:35.080 --> 0:05:35.760
<v Speaker 2>make raft puff.

0:05:36.720 --> 0:05:39.000
<v Speaker 1>That's so crazy that you were practicing only just a

0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:41.760
<v Speaker 1>few days before with that particular dish. You know, it

0:05:41.880 --> 0:05:44.080
<v Speaker 1>is obvious to me at this point that there's very

0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:46.000
<v Speaker 1>little between everyone in the competition.

0:05:46.440 --> 0:05:49.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly. I think, Look, once you're in the top ten,

0:05:50.000 --> 0:05:52.120
<v Speaker 2>I think it's the little things that can send you

0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:55.360
<v Speaker 2>home because everyone's just you know, raising the level every

0:05:55.400 --> 0:05:58.760
<v Speaker 2>single day and every single cook and you keep learning, right,

0:05:58.839 --> 0:06:02.279
<v Speaker 2>so you need to be on all your learnings and

0:06:02.440 --> 0:06:04.960
<v Speaker 2>of practicing all this stuff. And yeah, it's just as

0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:07.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, it could have been that I actually did

0:06:07.400 --> 0:06:10.120
<v Speaker 2>the rough bull and amazingly and then Decline put in

0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:12.279
<v Speaker 2>an amazing dish, and I would you know, I could

0:06:12.320 --> 0:06:14.039
<v Speaker 2>have just gone home either way.

0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:17.119
<v Speaker 1>I thought when they said to Decline that this isn't

0:06:17.160 --> 0:06:19.800
<v Speaker 1>a top ten dish, I actually thought that was pretty

0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:21.160
<v Speaker 1>savage the way they spoke to him.

0:06:21.279 --> 0:06:23.680
<v Speaker 2>Look, I think the judges also want to push you,

0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:27.080
<v Speaker 2>like there's no point in playing it safe. So I

0:06:27.120 --> 0:06:29.599
<v Speaker 2>think what they we're trying to say is like, you know,

0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:31.960
<v Speaker 2>Declin has a lot of potential, and he should, you know,

0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:34.200
<v Speaker 2>just push you know, the envelope a little bit and

0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:38.240
<v Speaker 2>trying to come up with an amazing dish, which you

0:06:38.279 --> 0:06:39.320
<v Speaker 2>know he can definitely do.

0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:42.160
<v Speaker 1>Food brings people together, which is a mentor that I

0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:44.800
<v Speaker 1>think you and I both share. Where did your love

0:06:44.839 --> 0:06:45.760
<v Speaker 1>of food come from?

0:06:45.880 --> 0:06:46.120
<v Speaker 4>Oh?

0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:47.920
<v Speaker 2>Look, I think I grew up in the kitchen with

0:06:48.360 --> 0:06:51.599
<v Speaker 2>my mom and my grandma and when I was a kid.

0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:54.920
<v Speaker 2>It has to be from there. And I always kind

0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:57.920
<v Speaker 2>of you know, saw how you know, again, people like

0:06:58.080 --> 0:07:02.880
<v Speaker 2>food brings people together, Like every single gathering between the family,

0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:05.599
<v Speaker 2>it kind of always in my family at least, it

0:07:05.720 --> 0:07:08.240
<v Speaker 2>ended up in the kitchen, like it's either the dining

0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:11.200
<v Speaker 2>table or the kitchen, and because that's where everything happens

0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:15.040
<v Speaker 2>in my family, So I think the lower food is

0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:18.880
<v Speaker 2>it's definitely taken back from those memories. And when I

0:07:18.920 --> 0:07:21.840
<v Speaker 2>came to Australia, that was the way I found the show.

0:07:21.880 --> 0:07:24.240
<v Speaker 2>Love to the people I met here and that became

0:07:24.360 --> 0:07:27.880
<v Speaker 2>ultimately my family. So I cooked for them every single week,

0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:31.000
<v Speaker 2>sometimes just a couple of times a week, and it's

0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:34.040
<v Speaker 2>it's an experience for sharing. Really, what about.

0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:36.120
<v Speaker 1>Food when you first came here to Australia, Not that

0:07:36.160 --> 0:07:38.480
<v Speaker 1>we have that much that's really unique to our country,

0:07:38.480 --> 0:07:40.640
<v Speaker 1>but was there something that you ate when you first

0:07:40.640 --> 0:07:44.160
<v Speaker 1>got here that really stood out and you had a

0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:44.840
<v Speaker 1>reaction to.

0:07:45.160 --> 0:07:48.080
<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's gonna sound cliche, but I think VEGEMI like,

0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:51.360
<v Speaker 2>I was like not a big fan. Also, one of

0:07:51.360 --> 0:07:54.600
<v Speaker 2>my cousins is a bit of frankster, so when I

0:07:54.600 --> 0:07:57.280
<v Speaker 2>got here here, he was like, oh, you should try vegamine.

0:07:57.280 --> 0:07:59.680
<v Speaker 2>It's like nutella. So I went in for like a spoonful.

0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:02.520
<v Speaker 1>I feel like with vegimite. The longer you're here in Australia,

0:08:02.600 --> 0:08:03.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, I've been here my whole life, so I

0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:06.200
<v Speaker 1>love it. But even when people first try it, they

0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:08.520
<v Speaker 1>hate it when they come from overseas. But the longer

0:08:08.520 --> 0:08:10.680
<v Speaker 1>that you hear in Australia, I feel like you get

0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:14.200
<v Speaker 1>more and more used to it, or you've appreciate it more.

0:08:14.160 --> 0:08:16.400
<v Speaker 2>It grows on you. Really, Like I enjoy you know,

0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:19.960
<v Speaker 2>a real you know, cheese sandwich with a little bit

0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:22.720
<v Speaker 2>of vegimite or vegimie and no abl like it's actually

0:08:22.720 --> 0:08:26.000
<v Speaker 2>pretty good, but like it's definitely an acquired taste.

0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:28.680
<v Speaker 1>It's a butt of veggimite ratio that is unique to

0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:31.600
<v Speaker 1>everyone that you've got to get right exactly. You did

0:08:31.600 --> 0:08:33.559
<v Speaker 1>say at the end of last night's episode that you've

0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:35.480
<v Speaker 1>learned so much from your time on the show. Can

0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:38.480
<v Speaker 1>we look into those small things and have a look

0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:40.160
<v Speaker 1>at what you've taken out of the experience.

0:08:40.960 --> 0:08:45.240
<v Speaker 2>Look I think every time we got chef guests, especially

0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:49.559
<v Speaker 2>when we were doing the Beat the Chef for all

0:08:49.600 --> 0:08:52.319
<v Speaker 2>the immunity challenge, I think I took that as a

0:08:52.400 --> 0:08:56.079
<v Speaker 2>learning opportunity And if you look back in the show,

0:08:56.640 --> 0:08:58.400
<v Speaker 2>maybe you want to notice it, but maybe if you

0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:01.520
<v Speaker 2>go back and watch it now. I was paying really

0:09:01.520 --> 0:09:05.000
<v Speaker 2>close attention to Hugh Allen and the way he did

0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:07.559
<v Speaker 2>his perfect and that was the exact same technique I

0:09:07.679 --> 0:09:12.319
<v Speaker 2>used to make my toblown and peanut ice cream sandwiches.

0:09:12.600 --> 0:09:14.640
<v Speaker 2>I think it just goes to show that you when

0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:18.839
<v Speaker 2>you're in in the whole experience, you do well if

0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:21.360
<v Speaker 2>you practice and you apply yourself, and you also pay

0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:24.559
<v Speaker 2>attention because there is always an opportunity for learning in

0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:28.160
<v Speaker 2>the show, which is what I found so amazing because

0:09:28.200 --> 0:09:30.720
<v Speaker 2>it's it would have taken me, you know, three years

0:09:30.760 --> 0:09:34.080
<v Speaker 2>cooking at home to achieve this level, but only just

0:09:34.120 --> 0:09:36.200
<v Speaker 2>a few weeks being on the show. You kind of,

0:09:36.360 --> 0:09:39.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, just catapult yourself in in but you need

0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:43.160
<v Speaker 2>to be one hundred percent in Mason in the experience, right,

0:09:43.240 --> 0:09:45.040
<v Speaker 2>so you get a lot back from it.

0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:47.920
<v Speaker 1>I thought Maggie Beer really brought a lot to that show.

0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:50.840
<v Speaker 1>She has a lot of energy, and she also really

0:09:50.880 --> 0:09:53.240
<v Speaker 1>seemed to connect with you. What did you learn from

0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:54.360
<v Speaker 1>your time with Maggie?

0:09:54.720 --> 0:09:57.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean the moment Maggie stepped into the Mastership kitchen

0:09:57.960 --> 0:10:00.040
<v Speaker 2>like she looked like a floating angel, right, so so,

0:10:00.679 --> 0:10:02.720
<v Speaker 2>so so happy to see her because you know, I've

0:10:02.760 --> 0:10:05.480
<v Speaker 2>seen him, I've seen her in previous seasons of the show.

0:10:06.000 --> 0:10:09.000
<v Speaker 2>She's just amazing, and she's just a sweetheart. And the

0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:11.640
<v Speaker 2>fact that you know she could relate to me, you know,

0:10:11.760 --> 0:10:14.400
<v Speaker 2>being the same age when she found food, and I

0:10:14.400 --> 0:10:17.560
<v Speaker 2>thought that was very sweet of her, right, and you know,

0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:20.719
<v Speaker 2>hopefully it'll be a safe me. Right, maybe thirty four

0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:23.160
<v Speaker 2>is lucky. It is her lucky number, and it's going

0:10:23.200 --> 0:10:24.079
<v Speaker 2>to be my lucky number.

0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:26.880
<v Speaker 1>Two was the oranges instead of the olives. Do you

0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:28.960
<v Speaker 1>think that that was the beginning of the end for you?

0:10:29.679 --> 0:10:33.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. You know, it's it's always hard to

0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:35.080
<v Speaker 2>like look back and say, oh, maybe I should have

0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:38.040
<v Speaker 2>done this, because right then and there you're under a

0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:40.679
<v Speaker 2>lot of pressure and you think, god, I'm going against

0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:43.679
<v Speaker 2>these you know, nine amazing people, like eight amazing people,

0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:45.920
<v Speaker 2>So I need to bring my a game. So part

0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:49.600
<v Speaker 2>of picking what was on the clash was like, Okay,

0:10:49.640 --> 0:10:52.240
<v Speaker 2>maybe I'll have enough time to think during my cook

0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:54.680
<v Speaker 2>if I get stuck with a really bad ingredient. But

0:10:55.040 --> 0:10:57.800
<v Speaker 2>when I saw the oranges, I thought, Okay, this is

0:10:57.840 --> 0:10:59.560
<v Speaker 2>my time to bring it home. I'll just put one

0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:02.920
<v Speaker 2>hundred of my effort into this, and it's also an

0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:06.800
<v Speaker 2>elimination day, so you want to bring your fourteen into

0:11:06.840 --> 0:11:09.320
<v Speaker 2>the mix, right, So I could have gone for a

0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:12.680
<v Speaker 2>savory dish, but I thought, you know, not to play

0:11:12.679 --> 0:11:15.360
<v Speaker 2>it safe. But I thought maybe it was my time to,

0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:17.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, that day, to push a little bit the

0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:18.520
<v Speaker 2>limits with the olives.

0:11:18.640 --> 0:11:21.600
<v Speaker 1>You were the only contestant to lift that class. Would

0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:24.360
<v Speaker 1>you say that that was maybe too risky a gamble?

0:11:24.520 --> 0:11:26.200
<v Speaker 1>Do you think that that might have been a setup

0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:28.439
<v Speaker 1>to say, who would take that kind of a risk,

0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:31.720
<v Speaker 1>and maybe that's frowned upon and away. I guess you

0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:33.120
<v Speaker 1>a gambler in real life.

0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:35.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm usually a person that plays it really safe in

0:11:35.520 --> 0:11:39.160
<v Speaker 2>terms of you know, gambling, Like I don't feel I'm

0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:43.240
<v Speaker 2>very as an engineer. I'm informatics engineer by you know,

0:11:43.320 --> 0:11:46.280
<v Speaker 2>by trade, and I studied that so I'm very on

0:11:46.360 --> 0:11:49.440
<v Speaker 2>with the math. So I always calculate the possibilities of

0:11:49.480 --> 0:11:52.320
<v Speaker 2>something happening and if you know, if the numbers don't

0:11:52.360 --> 0:11:54.840
<v Speaker 2>add up, then for me, there's no point of doing it.

0:11:54.880 --> 0:11:57.920
<v Speaker 2>But I knew what I could do with olives, and

0:11:58.000 --> 0:11:59.679
<v Speaker 2>I just said, look, I'm just going to take the

0:11:59.760 --> 0:12:02.200
<v Speaker 2>risk and see what happens. And I was really glad

0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:04.360
<v Speaker 2>that I got oranges, So I think it kind of

0:12:04.520 --> 0:12:07.440
<v Speaker 2>paid off in that sense. It was just smilar element

0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:08.520
<v Speaker 2>that actually took me down.

0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:12.000
<v Speaker 1>Then on that second cook, the pastry wasn't what you wanted,

0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:14.200
<v Speaker 1>and you know, Melissa really called you out for that.

0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:17.080
<v Speaker 1>Did you work out how to correct that pastry for

0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:17.600
<v Speaker 1>next time?

0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:20.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, one hundred percent. So I think what happened was

0:12:21.360 --> 0:12:24.079
<v Speaker 2>and that just goes to show it's the little things.

0:12:24.320 --> 0:12:28.440
<v Speaker 2>So when you're working out your butter with your flour,

0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:32.800
<v Speaker 2>you like, I think I overmixed it by you know,

0:12:32.840 --> 0:12:35.719
<v Speaker 2>it could have been just fifteen seconds. And that's all

0:12:35.920 --> 0:12:38.240
<v Speaker 2>because when you do that, you kind of remove the

0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:41.800
<v Speaker 2>possibility of creating butter pockets into the pastry. So when

0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:44.280
<v Speaker 2>you folded in, you're basically just crushing all the layers.

0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:44.560
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:48.959
<v Speaker 2>So and since you know, since I've gone back home,

0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:52.239
<v Speaker 2>I've actually made it twice and it's it's come out beautifully,

0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:54.360
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it's.

0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:56.439
<v Speaker 1>Did you take a photo of that recreation and send

0:12:56.480 --> 0:12:58.320
<v Speaker 1>it to Maggie or at least you know Tager on

0:12:58.360 --> 0:12:59.040
<v Speaker 1>social media?

0:12:59.320 --> 0:13:01.480
<v Speaker 2>Do you know what I'm gonna make the same dessert

0:13:01.600 --> 0:13:03.600
<v Speaker 2>that I did that day, and I'm going to tugger.

0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:06.240
<v Speaker 1>The judges did really try to warn you a few times,

0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:09.040
<v Speaker 1>and your fellow contestants were obviously yelling down from the gantry.

0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:11.800
<v Speaker 1>Had you packed too much into this? Like what could

0:13:11.800 --> 0:13:12.640
<v Speaker 1>you have done differently?

0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:15.360
<v Speaker 2>I think looking back there there's always a possibility of

0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:18.640
<v Speaker 2>changing something, and I think that's you know, that's how

0:13:18.640 --> 0:13:20.640
<v Speaker 2>you learn, and that's that's how you grow. But I

0:13:20.640 --> 0:13:24.360
<v Speaker 2>think it's what felt right at the moment, and I

0:13:24.520 --> 0:13:27.080
<v Speaker 2>just I just went one hundred percent in and did

0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:31.719
<v Speaker 2>as good as I could. And you know, maybe if

0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:34.440
<v Speaker 2>the rough buff would have turned out right, we wouldn't

0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:36.240
<v Speaker 2>be having this conversation. But at the end of the

0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:36.959
<v Speaker 2>season when I won.

0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:39.720
<v Speaker 1>This week, Master Chef has picked up a LOGI nomination,

0:13:39.840 --> 0:13:41.920
<v Speaker 1>which I think is fantastic for this show it's been

0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:44.720
<v Speaker 1>going for so long. Do you think that audiences will

0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:48.319
<v Speaker 1>reward this series as maybe an acknowledgment.

0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:50.960
<v Speaker 2>To job look, I think yeah, I think it's going

0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:53.840
<v Speaker 2>to be very, very important just to see you know,

0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:57.080
<v Speaker 2>probably his last piece of work, like he he was amazing,

0:13:57.200 --> 0:14:00.400
<v Speaker 2>he was like his mentorship meant a lot to all

0:14:00.400 --> 0:14:04.880
<v Speaker 2>the contestants. So I think, you know, people that have

0:14:05.000 --> 0:14:08.440
<v Speaker 2>seen the show and really loved him, they were probably

0:14:08.600 --> 0:14:11.880
<v Speaker 2>want to honor him in that way. So yeah, hopefully,

0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:14.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, it gets the recognition he deserves.

0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:16.120
<v Speaker 1>Who do you think is going to win? I mean

0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:17.959
<v Speaker 1>the numbers and now are half of what we had

0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:18.720
<v Speaker 1>when he started.

0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:21.720
<v Speaker 2>Look, I think every single one of those guys can

0:14:21.760 --> 0:14:23.920
<v Speaker 2>actually pick up the trophy at the end of of

0:14:23.960 --> 0:14:27.120
<v Speaker 2>the season. I would love, you know, Declan, he's young,

0:14:27.240 --> 0:14:30.640
<v Speaker 2>he's so talented. I would love Rhiann and she's like

0:14:30.720 --> 0:14:33.200
<v Speaker 2>a gone in the kitchen and her flavors are amazing.

0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:38.400
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, I couldn't be ruling out my roomie Ralph.

0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:40.160
<v Speaker 1>I think there's so many people that could win at

0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:42.920
<v Speaker 1>this point. I mean, I'm pretty clueless.

0:14:42.600 --> 0:14:45.200
<v Speaker 2>Exactly, And you know, it's all about not making a

0:14:45.200 --> 0:14:48.040
<v Speaker 2>mistake when it's really pressing, which is you know, that's

0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:50.160
<v Speaker 2>I think that's the hardest bit of the competition. Really.

0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:52.240
<v Speaker 1>What about you and your journey after this show? Like,

0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:53.640
<v Speaker 1>what do you think is next for you? Where do

0:14:53.640 --> 0:14:54.880
<v Speaker 1>you want to take this opportunity?

0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:58.800
<v Speaker 2>Look, I think the most important thing is I've realized

0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:01.360
<v Speaker 2>that I definitely want to do something in food, Like

0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:05.880
<v Speaker 2>I think my food dream. It's it's definitely going ahead,

0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:08.160
<v Speaker 2>and I'm sure there's gonna be pop ups in some

0:15:08.200 --> 0:15:12.560
<v Speaker 2>sort of collaboration with my new master Chef family and hopefully,

0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:15.160
<v Speaker 2>you know, that particiar dream will come true.

0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:17.920
<v Speaker 1>Everyone who joins this podcast gets asked this question, So,

0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:20.680
<v Speaker 1>what is something behind the scene, something that we might

0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:22.920
<v Speaker 1>not have seen on Mastership Australia kind of like a

0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:24.400
<v Speaker 1>behind the scene secret.

0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:27.400
<v Speaker 2>I think, I think, you know, I think what people

0:15:27.440 --> 0:15:31.000
<v Speaker 2>don't realize it's the amount of practicing you do. Like,

0:15:31.120 --> 0:15:34.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, living with Ralph, we practice a lot. Like

0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:36.360
<v Speaker 2>there was a lot of studying, a lot of you

0:15:36.400 --> 0:15:39.840
<v Speaker 2>know researching, and of course a lot of fun. But yeah,

0:15:39.960 --> 0:15:42.920
<v Speaker 2>I think probably what you don't see or maybe you

0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:45.520
<v Speaker 2>see throughout the series is how much weight we gain

0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:49.160
<v Speaker 2>because we need to be tasting each other's you know, dishes,

0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:52.600
<v Speaker 2>and because we live in you know, dis places altogether,

0:15:52.800 --> 0:15:56.200
<v Speaker 2>like everyone wants to like to, you know, try their

0:15:56.280 --> 0:15:58.960
<v Speaker 2>dish and like. So, yeah, there's definitely a lot of

0:15:59.000 --> 0:16:02.120
<v Speaker 2>good food going around and a lot of few extra pounds.

0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:04.920
<v Speaker 1>I never noticed the contestants putting on weight, but I

0:16:04.920 --> 0:16:08.080
<v Speaker 1>guess that does make sense if people want to follow

0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:10.360
<v Speaker 1>your journey on Instagram. What's the best way that they

0:16:10.400 --> 0:16:11.560
<v Speaker 1>can follow you? What's your handle?

0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:14.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they can follow me at a cruise Vemon, which

0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:16.520
<v Speaker 2>is you know, the first layer of my name in

0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:20.520
<v Speaker 2>my two last names, and yeah, on Instagram and then

0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:24.120
<v Speaker 2>maybe hopefully I'll keep them posted for whatever it's coming.

0:16:24.640 --> 0:16:26.760
<v Speaker 1>I want to say thank you so much for sitting

0:16:26.760 --> 0:16:28.720
<v Speaker 1>down Antonio and having a chat with me. I love

0:16:28.840 --> 0:16:30.640
<v Speaker 1>the series of the show. I think you did a

0:16:30.640 --> 0:16:32.840
<v Speaker 1>fantastic job and I'm pretty sure a lot of Austrains

0:16:32.840 --> 0:16:35.160
<v Speaker 1>are going to be following you after your Master Chef journey.

0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:37.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thank you so much, Ben. Thank you for your

0:16:37.160 --> 0:16:39.160
<v Speaker 2>time Antonio.

0:16:39.200 --> 0:16:41.320
<v Speaker 1>I thought was really sweet and it was interesting to

0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:43.480
<v Speaker 1>hear how he kept the outcome of his time on

0:16:43.520 --> 0:16:46.120
<v Speaker 1>the show a secret, even from his family and friends.

0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:48.920
<v Speaker 1>Now we have Ralph coming into the podcast, and like me,

0:16:49.040 --> 0:16:51.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you will love the silky sounds of his

0:16:51.360 --> 0:16:55.920
<v Speaker 1>voice as he calmly unpacks his time on Master Chef Australia.

0:16:56.000 --> 0:16:56.920
<v Speaker 1>Hey mate, how are you?

0:16:57.240 --> 0:16:58.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm good? Thanks yourself, I'm good.

0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:01.000
<v Speaker 1>I was looking forward to talking to you because I

0:17:01.040 --> 0:17:04.480
<v Speaker 1>think people listening to this podcast will be enjoying the

0:17:04.520 --> 0:17:06.200
<v Speaker 1>soulful sounds of your voice.

0:17:06.800 --> 0:17:09.960
<v Speaker 3>It's very soothing and relaxing. I've been told always.

0:17:09.520 --> 0:17:11.159
<v Speaker 1>I loved you on the show because of it. I

0:17:11.200 --> 0:17:12.840
<v Speaker 1>was like, I just want you to read a bedtime

0:17:12.920 --> 0:17:13.439
<v Speaker 1>story to me.

0:17:14.080 --> 0:17:19.960
<v Speaker 4>That's a bit creepy, OKAYI has a bit much, but sure, just.

0:17:19.960 --> 0:17:22.440
<v Speaker 1>Reading some recipes to me. That'll be fine, That'll be fine.

0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:26.520
<v Speaker 1>Congratulations you know, on your time on Mastership Australia. I

0:17:26.560 --> 0:17:29.240
<v Speaker 1>wanted to start by saying, you know what, I'm more

0:17:29.280 --> 0:17:31.760
<v Speaker 1>of a savory person than a sweet person.

0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:33.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm exactly the same.

0:17:33.160 --> 0:17:35.000
<v Speaker 1>I wonder where does that come from, though, because you

0:17:35.000 --> 0:17:36.960
<v Speaker 1>know what's funny is my brother and my sister are

0:17:36.960 --> 0:17:39.199
<v Speaker 1>exactly the same, and you know her mother has a

0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:39.880
<v Speaker 1>real sweet too.

0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:40.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:17:40.280 --> 0:17:42.800
<v Speaker 1>I wonder where the love of savory comes from.

0:17:42.880 --> 0:17:45.879
<v Speaker 4>I guess growing up I was quite a hyperactive child,

0:17:46.119 --> 0:17:49.080
<v Speaker 4>and mom never really used to give me sugar or sweets,

0:17:49.080 --> 0:17:51.359
<v Speaker 4>just because obviously that would have made it much worse

0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:53.159
<v Speaker 4>to handle me as a child. It was ready a

0:17:53.200 --> 0:17:55.480
<v Speaker 4>bit much, so I think just growing up, I've never

0:17:55.520 --> 0:17:58.520
<v Speaker 4>really found, I guess, any comfort or any sort of

0:17:58.600 --> 0:18:02.320
<v Speaker 4>happiness from sweet things. I've always kind of leaned towards savory,

0:18:02.359 --> 0:18:05.240
<v Speaker 4>and even in my cooking, I didn't like making desserts

0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:06.919
<v Speaker 4>because I wasn't really a fan Beau was obviously. Growing up,

0:18:06.960 --> 0:18:09.440
<v Speaker 4>I never really had that sugar or that sweet tooth.

0:18:09.480 --> 0:18:11.879
<v Speaker 4>So I think that's kind of what curved me towards

0:18:11.960 --> 0:18:14.520
<v Speaker 4>going to savory over sweet was I guess some people

0:18:14.560 --> 0:18:17.680
<v Speaker 4>that's interesting because my brother loved sweets, like he used

0:18:17.680 --> 0:18:19.000
<v Speaker 4>to eat the more time when he had a chance,

0:18:19.000 --> 0:18:21.240
<v Speaker 4>you'd get sweets, and he loved it. But I was

0:18:21.240 --> 0:18:22.840
<v Speaker 4>the polar opposite because I never had them when I

0:18:22.840 --> 0:18:24.560
<v Speaker 4>was a child. I never really liked them growing up.

0:18:24.640 --> 0:18:26.800
<v Speaker 4>So I think that's kind of what sewed me towards

0:18:26.960 --> 0:18:28.280
<v Speaker 4>savory over sweet.

0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:30.879
<v Speaker 1>I was thinking for me because it's more in my

0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:34.960
<v Speaker 1>adult life. Maybe it's my love of red wine. I think, ah,

0:18:35.080 --> 0:18:38.360
<v Speaker 1>my love of red wine makes me crave more salty

0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:40.240
<v Speaker 1>things in my food. I guess, I don't know is

0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:40.880
<v Speaker 1>that a thing.

0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:41.760
<v Speaker 3>It would be a thing.

0:18:41.800 --> 0:18:44.040
<v Speaker 4>I don't think most people have red wines with desserts,

0:18:44.200 --> 0:18:47.720
<v Speaker 4>although me and Ru did do one, so you could

0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:49.760
<v Speaker 4>mix it in, I guess, But our dessert was then

0:18:49.840 --> 0:18:51.719
<v Speaker 4>still a bit of a savory to dessert more than

0:18:51.760 --> 0:18:54.840
<v Speaker 4>it was a sweet So what you drink obviously impacts

0:18:54.880 --> 0:18:57.800
<v Speaker 4>what you eat as well, because you're not you're not

0:18:57.840 --> 0:19:00.200
<v Speaker 4>having a carocake with a red wine.

0:19:00.400 --> 0:19:02.120
<v Speaker 3>That this doesn't pair together very well.

0:19:02.200 --> 0:19:04.160
<v Speaker 4>So if you do enjoy a red wine, you're obviously

0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:06.720
<v Speaker 4>going to lean towards more savory foods. And I guess

0:19:06.720 --> 0:19:08.560
<v Speaker 4>that's kind of what basically what you're saying would kind

0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:10.200
<v Speaker 4>of lean you towards the savory side.

0:19:10.240 --> 0:19:12.800
<v Speaker 1>Well, I think everyone this season has been cast very well.

0:19:12.840 --> 0:19:15.480
<v Speaker 1>There's some really great personalities. I thought it's interesting to

0:19:15.520 --> 0:19:19.119
<v Speaker 1>sometimes ask contestants, you know why you think you were picked.

0:19:19.280 --> 0:19:19.800
<v Speaker 3>Do you have a.

0:19:19.800 --> 0:19:22.720
<v Speaker 1>Theory on what it was that the producer saw on

0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:24.920
<v Speaker 1>you that thought this would be good for this series.

0:19:25.200 --> 0:19:27.880
<v Speaker 4>Oh, I guess we get asked that question a lot,

0:19:27.920 --> 0:19:30.480
<v Speaker 4>and I asked that question of myself quite often, and

0:19:30.520 --> 0:19:33.040
<v Speaker 4>it's I like to think it's because I'm an amazing cook,

0:19:33.080 --> 0:19:35.720
<v Speaker 4>and I've got an amazing personality as well that I

0:19:35.760 --> 0:19:39.400
<v Speaker 4>guess would come across as welcoming and something that people

0:19:39.440 --> 0:19:41.600
<v Speaker 4>can relate to. And then just I guess my style

0:19:41.640 --> 0:19:44.320
<v Speaker 4>of cooking has always been about family, being that I

0:19:44.440 --> 0:19:47.480
<v Speaker 4>enjoy cooking Italian food and that kind of leans to women,

0:19:47.480 --> 0:19:49.760
<v Speaker 4>to my heritage where food is important and all massive

0:19:49.760 --> 0:19:52.879
<v Speaker 4>events are centered around food. So I guess just me

0:19:52.920 --> 0:19:55.240
<v Speaker 4>as a person, and the way I exude my confidence

0:19:55.240 --> 0:19:57.359
<v Speaker 4>in my food and the way I treat food in

0:19:57.400 --> 0:19:59.720
<v Speaker 4>becass to my family. I think that's something they probably

0:19:59.720 --> 0:20:02.359
<v Speaker 4>seen and gone. You know, this could work very well

0:20:02.560 --> 0:20:04.280
<v Speaker 4>on TV, or at least that's what I think it

0:20:04.320 --> 0:20:04.639
<v Speaker 4>could be.

0:20:04.800 --> 0:20:07.120
<v Speaker 1>What sort of preparation do you do so you find

0:20:07.119 --> 0:20:08.560
<v Speaker 1>out you're going to be on the show, You've gone

0:20:08.560 --> 0:20:10.760
<v Speaker 1>through the audition process, and I'm sure there's a bit

0:20:10.800 --> 0:20:14.240
<v Speaker 1>of time before actually production starts. Did you do any

0:20:14.359 --> 0:20:17.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of preparation? Was there like going to the Olympics?

0:20:17.000 --> 0:20:18.240
<v Speaker 1>Where are you doing a lot of training?

0:20:18.440 --> 0:20:19.040
<v Speaker 3>Oh? God?

0:20:19.119 --> 0:20:21.320
<v Speaker 4>I tossed back and forth about the best way to

0:20:21.359 --> 0:20:23.480
<v Speaker 4>go through to do this, because at one hand, I

0:20:23.520 --> 0:20:26.720
<v Speaker 4>was like, rough, just practice your basic things, practicetomtart's cakes,

0:20:26.720 --> 0:20:28.960
<v Speaker 4>custard soups, all that sort of stuff, so I'd have

0:20:29.000 --> 0:20:31.320
<v Speaker 4>a base of knowledge going in, which is the smart

0:20:31.320 --> 0:20:32.760
<v Speaker 4>thing to do. And I did do that, But then

0:20:32.800 --> 0:20:34.560
<v Speaker 4>also I was like, don't do too much because you'd

0:20:34.560 --> 0:20:36.919
<v Speaker 4>be freaking yourself out before you actually get into the kitchen,

0:20:37.160 --> 0:20:39.200
<v Speaker 4>so I kind of balanced that I did a bit

0:20:39.200 --> 0:20:42.159
<v Speaker 4>of practice beforehand, and then maybe like a day or

0:20:42.160 --> 0:20:43.840
<v Speaker 4>two before we started, I kind of just kind of

0:20:43.840 --> 0:20:45.919
<v Speaker 4>relaxed and looked at everything that I had done to

0:20:45.920 --> 0:20:47.760
<v Speaker 4>make sure that I was confident and ready.

0:20:47.840 --> 0:20:48.560
<v Speaker 3>But I didn't want to.

0:20:48.560 --> 0:20:51.399
<v Speaker 4>Work myself to exhaustion before I actually got onto the show,

0:20:51.480 --> 0:20:52.840
<v Speaker 4>So it was a bit of both.

0:20:52.920 --> 0:20:55.000
<v Speaker 1>I think for anyone listening, if you can smell your

0:20:55.000 --> 0:20:58.680
<v Speaker 1>neighbors cooking lots of different smells, lots of amazing smells,

0:20:58.840 --> 0:21:01.520
<v Speaker 1>maybe just assume that they're to be on Mastership.

0:21:01.480 --> 0:21:03.480
<v Speaker 4>Just pop over there and just just asked them if

0:21:03.480 --> 0:21:05.359
<v Speaker 4>you could be a taste test, because there's plenty of

0:21:05.359 --> 0:21:06.000
<v Speaker 4>good being made.

0:21:06.359 --> 0:21:09.439
<v Speaker 1>Was that the loudest countdown for an elimination cook in

0:21:09.520 --> 0:21:11.479
<v Speaker 1>the history of the show? Because I don't know, did

0:21:11.560 --> 0:21:14.280
<v Speaker 1>you notice that the countdown for the end of that

0:21:14.359 --> 0:21:16.040
<v Speaker 1>cook was so loud and intense?

0:21:16.200 --> 0:21:18.320
<v Speaker 4>To be honest, when you're the one down there doing

0:21:18.359 --> 0:21:20.720
<v Speaker 4>the cooking, a lot of the time you kind of

0:21:20.800 --> 0:21:23.080
<v Speaker 4>zone into what you need to get done, so you

0:21:23.119 --> 0:21:25.679
<v Speaker 4>don't really hear anything coming from the gandry. I think

0:21:25.680 --> 0:21:27.119
<v Speaker 4>they yelled at me a couple of times and like

0:21:27.280 --> 0:21:29.560
<v Speaker 4>it takes a few minutes to actually register because you're

0:21:29.600 --> 0:21:31.560
<v Speaker 4>so focused on what you have to do in front

0:21:31.600 --> 0:21:33.360
<v Speaker 4>of you, knowing that you don't have that much time.

0:21:33.440 --> 0:21:35.760
<v Speaker 4>So even I'm completely honest, I actually didn't even hear.

0:21:35.800 --> 0:21:38.080
<v Speaker 4>That's the loudness of it. I could hear the countdown

0:21:38.080 --> 0:21:40.159
<v Speaker 4>because the judges were in front of me, but I

0:21:40.200 --> 0:21:42.159
<v Speaker 4>didn't know how loud it actually was.

0:21:42.600 --> 0:21:44.720
<v Speaker 1>But watching it back, did you notice it, Because I'm.

0:21:44.560 --> 0:21:46.480
<v Speaker 3>Afterwards I noticed.

0:21:46.480 --> 0:21:48.160
<v Speaker 4>I was like, oh my goodness, everyone was actually really

0:21:48.320 --> 0:21:51.439
<v Speaker 4>stressed and they were yelling for us to Russian area up.

0:21:51.480 --> 0:21:53.399
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, it was frantic towards the end, and you

0:21:53.400 --> 0:21:54.960
<v Speaker 4>could actually hear that in the countdown.

0:21:55.119 --> 0:21:56.879
<v Speaker 1>What I was going to say to you was, you know,

0:21:56.960 --> 0:22:00.760
<v Speaker 1>this particular cook felt like an ADHD nine man because

0:22:00.800 --> 0:22:03.600
<v Speaker 1>there were so many elements that were going on. I

0:22:03.600 --> 0:22:06.280
<v Speaker 1>would have found it really hard to stay focused and

0:22:06.560 --> 0:22:09.040
<v Speaker 1>to get everything done. But how did you try and

0:22:09.080 --> 0:22:11.240
<v Speaker 1>stay focused knowing that there was so much that you

0:22:11.280 --> 0:22:11.600
<v Speaker 1>had to do?

0:22:11.880 --> 0:22:13.919
<v Speaker 4>Oh good, So the task itself, if you look at

0:22:13.960 --> 0:22:16.520
<v Speaker 4>the complexity of what we had to do, and if

0:22:16.560 --> 0:22:19.840
<v Speaker 4>you're looking at the entire dish start to finish, it

0:22:19.960 --> 0:22:23.080
<v Speaker 4>seems almost impossible. The advice to gave was just break

0:22:23.119 --> 0:22:25.920
<v Speaker 4>it down and do it one step at a time,

0:22:26.200 --> 0:22:28.120
<v Speaker 4>which is all well and true, but like when you're

0:22:28.160 --> 0:22:30.720
<v Speaker 4>in the trenches and you're going through it your speed reading,

0:22:30.760 --> 0:22:32.640
<v Speaker 4>and you're trying to get everything done, and I guess

0:22:32.640 --> 0:22:34.320
<v Speaker 4>the main thing is to kind of scent to yourself,

0:22:34.359 --> 0:22:36.560
<v Speaker 4>we need to hit all these steps to make sure

0:22:36.600 --> 0:22:38.640
<v Speaker 4>we have a product at the end. And I think

0:22:38.680 --> 0:22:41.560
<v Speaker 4>I started kind of going to like I was too

0:22:41.560 --> 0:22:43.199
<v Speaker 4>meticulous with it. I was going by the d I

0:22:43.240 --> 0:22:45.960
<v Speaker 4>was doing everything measuring very slowly, and you kind of

0:22:45.960 --> 0:22:48.320
<v Speaker 4>need to balance that with speed as well, so you

0:22:48.440 --> 0:22:50.480
<v Speaker 4>kind of try and find a rhythm. If you catch

0:22:50.520 --> 0:22:53.080
<v Speaker 4>a good rhythm, you'll pretty much just follow that page

0:22:53.080 --> 0:22:55.440
<v Speaker 4>by page by page and tick off boxes. So that's

0:22:55.520 --> 0:22:57.719
<v Speaker 4>kind of the mindset that we're trying to be in.

0:22:58.119 --> 0:23:00.000
<v Speaker 1>It did feel like watching it back that you were

0:23:00.119 --> 0:23:02.480
<v Speaker 1>being too cautious at the start. You know, at a

0:23:02.560 --> 0:23:04.800
<v Speaker 1>time constraint, it would have been really hard. Do you

0:23:04.880 --> 0:23:07.159
<v Speaker 1>kind of wish that you hadn't been so meticulous with

0:23:07.200 --> 0:23:09.479
<v Speaker 1>your measuring or do you think that that was still

0:23:09.560 --> 0:23:10.880
<v Speaker 1>the only way you could do it?

0:23:10.960 --> 0:23:13.679
<v Speaker 4>Kindcid is twenty twenty out of love to speed it

0:23:13.760 --> 0:23:15.840
<v Speaker 4>up a tad bit. I think the process that would

0:23:15.840 --> 0:23:18.040
<v Speaker 4>have been the same, But it's they always the judge

0:23:18.119 --> 0:23:22.119
<v Speaker 4>always tell us from the beginning, done hole from the start,

0:23:22.200 --> 0:23:24.720
<v Speaker 4>And I think sometimes when I started, particularly yes there,

0:23:24.760 --> 0:23:27.080
<v Speaker 4>when I started that cook I was so focused on

0:23:27.119 --> 0:23:30.360
<v Speaker 4>the actual fact that every measurement has to be accurate,

0:23:30.520 --> 0:23:31.840
<v Speaker 4>and I forget that you also have to have your

0:23:31.840 --> 0:23:33.840
<v Speaker 4>foot on the gas at the same time. You do

0:23:33.960 --> 0:23:35.520
<v Speaker 4>need to have the balance of both because if you

0:23:35.560 --> 0:23:37.720
<v Speaker 4>do want if you're too quick, you're missteps. If you're

0:23:37.720 --> 0:23:41.040
<v Speaker 4>too slow and meticulous, you lose time. So it is

0:23:41.080 --> 0:23:43.119
<v Speaker 4>a hard balance to get, especially with all that stress

0:23:43.160 --> 0:23:45.240
<v Speaker 4>and the time constraint that you've got as well. That's

0:23:45.280 --> 0:23:45.679
<v Speaker 4>going on.

0:23:45.760 --> 0:23:48.040
<v Speaker 1>So what did you think of your competitors? Were you

0:23:48.359 --> 0:23:51.760
<v Speaker 1>stressed about going up against those particular girls and how

0:23:51.800 --> 0:23:54.160
<v Speaker 1>have they been cooking? Have they been cooking stronger than

0:23:54.200 --> 0:23:55.399
<v Speaker 1>you up until that point?

0:23:55.600 --> 0:23:55.800
<v Speaker 3>Oh?

0:23:55.800 --> 0:23:58.679
<v Speaker 4>Look, I was terrified to you against anybody in the

0:23:58.760 --> 0:24:00.679
<v Speaker 4>black ape bring pressure.

0:24:01.200 --> 0:24:03.200
<v Speaker 3>I mean, we're all there because we're all really good

0:24:03.200 --> 0:24:03.880
<v Speaker 3>at what we do.

0:24:04.000 --> 0:24:07.159
<v Speaker 4>So any competitor that you're cooking against is specifically in

0:24:07.160 --> 0:24:10.560
<v Speaker 4>a black apron. Everyone puts the best foot forward of late. Um,

0:24:10.560 --> 0:24:12.840
<v Speaker 4>Melissa has been killing it in a black Apron I

0:24:12.840 --> 0:24:17.280
<v Speaker 4>don't know. She becomes a superhuman and just absolutely smashes

0:24:17.320 --> 0:24:19.720
<v Speaker 4>them and knocks them out the park every single Black

0:24:19.720 --> 0:24:22.120
<v Speaker 4>Apron day. So that was something that I was obviously

0:24:22.240 --> 0:24:25.520
<v Speaker 4>very conscious of. And ran an amazing cook, and she

0:24:25.600 --> 0:24:28.520
<v Speaker 4>had come off a run of amazing cooks back to back.

0:24:28.800 --> 0:24:31.040
<v Speaker 4>So getting in there, you go, oh goodness, the pressures on.

0:24:31.600 --> 0:24:33.399
<v Speaker 4>I'd come off a run of a few good cooks

0:24:33.400 --> 0:24:35.320
<v Speaker 4>as well. But the one thing about that kitchen is

0:24:35.320 --> 0:24:37.080
<v Speaker 4>you kind of got to put that last cook that

0:24:37.119 --> 0:24:39.840
<v Speaker 4>you've had out your mind and start fresh, because if

0:24:39.880 --> 0:24:41.399
<v Speaker 4>whether it's a good cook or a bad cook, you

0:24:41.440 --> 0:24:43.639
<v Speaker 4>can't bring that with you to the next cook. So

0:24:43.880 --> 0:24:46.159
<v Speaker 4>that's the mentality I went in with. But no I

0:24:45.960 --> 0:24:47.960
<v Speaker 4>was I was terrified knowing that I was cooking against

0:24:47.960 --> 0:24:50.040
<v Speaker 4>those two that have been doing so well, and knew

0:24:50.040 --> 0:24:52.760
<v Speaker 4>that I had to get everything absolutely perfect to stand

0:24:52.760 --> 0:24:53.160
<v Speaker 4>a chance.

0:24:53.280 --> 0:24:57.199
<v Speaker 1>How familiar were you with Nellie Robinson's food, Because I mean,

0:24:57.240 --> 0:24:59.680
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't that familiar, so I probably would have been

0:24:59.760 --> 0:25:02.560
<v Speaker 1>throw But what about for yourself? Had you eaten it

0:25:02.640 --> 0:25:05.479
<v Speaker 1>now or heard of mister McGregor's garden.

0:25:05.920 --> 0:25:08.359
<v Speaker 4>Oh goodness, I hadn't heard of no, and I hadn't

0:25:08.400 --> 0:25:11.159
<v Speaker 4>eaten the dessert either or known about the garden. You

0:25:11.240 --> 0:25:14.960
<v Speaker 4>were completely honest, and I guess that's why you go

0:25:15.000 --> 0:25:17.080
<v Speaker 4>on the show. That they put you in situations that

0:25:17.119 --> 0:25:19.320
<v Speaker 4>you never would find yourself, and that kind of pushes

0:25:19.359 --> 0:25:20.760
<v Speaker 4>the boat up for you, and it takes you out

0:25:20.760 --> 0:25:23.199
<v Speaker 4>of your comfort zone. That allows you to experiment and

0:25:23.200 --> 0:25:25.320
<v Speaker 4>try new things. So there are a lot of elements

0:25:25.359 --> 0:25:27.400
<v Speaker 4>in there that I don't think I would have done

0:25:27.720 --> 0:25:29.880
<v Speaker 4>in my entire life, but being on the show kind

0:25:29.880 --> 0:25:32.239
<v Speaker 4>of forced us to kind of do those things. And

0:25:32.280 --> 0:25:34.240
<v Speaker 4>even now I'm like, well, those are certain techniques that

0:25:34.280 --> 0:25:36.919
<v Speaker 4>I've learned in that cook that I can enhance on

0:25:37.040 --> 0:25:40.000
<v Speaker 4>or do better or add to different desserts or foods

0:25:40.000 --> 0:25:43.320
<v Speaker 4>that I currently make. So, although unfamiliar, you learn pretty

0:25:43.400 --> 0:25:44.600
<v Speaker 4>quickly on the spot.

0:25:44.840 --> 0:25:47.080
<v Speaker 1>Just between us, do you think you'll ever try and

0:25:47.200 --> 0:25:48.640
<v Speaker 1>recreate that meal at home?

0:25:49.080 --> 0:25:51.119
<v Speaker 3>Oh goodness, I need a bit of time. I forget

0:25:51.160 --> 0:25:51.520
<v Speaker 3>about it.

0:25:51.720 --> 0:25:53.280
<v Speaker 1>Relationship, it's complicated.

0:25:53.520 --> 0:25:54.320
<v Speaker 3>It's complicated.

0:25:54.320 --> 0:25:56.320
<v Speaker 4>It's a complicated relationship at the moment, But you know what,

0:25:56.359 --> 0:25:59.480
<v Speaker 4>I will at some point again just redo it and

0:26:00.240 --> 0:26:02.919
<v Speaker 4>see the difference, because I guess it's all about learning,

0:26:03.160 --> 0:26:04.800
<v Speaker 4>just giving it that extra bit of care without the

0:26:04.840 --> 0:26:07.280
<v Speaker 4>time clock on me, just to see what it could

0:26:07.320 --> 0:26:10.600
<v Speaker 4>have been, and had I executed it excellently, would I

0:26:10.640 --> 0:26:13.399
<v Speaker 4>have come close? So maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow,

0:26:13.640 --> 0:26:16.479
<v Speaker 4>but down the line might try and recreate it.

0:26:16.480 --> 0:26:19.440
<v Speaker 1>It ain't the prettiest looking dessert as far as I'm concerned.

0:26:19.440 --> 0:26:22.280
<v Speaker 1>So whilst you were putting it together, I was thinking,

0:26:23.000 --> 0:26:25.479
<v Speaker 1>it's a very hard challenge to try and dress this

0:26:25.600 --> 0:26:27.280
<v Speaker 1>up to make it look like the way.

0:26:27.480 --> 0:26:29.680
<v Speaker 3>It's playd it. Yeah, that's I guess.

0:26:29.680 --> 0:26:32.280
<v Speaker 4>The one thing that is I guess a bit more

0:26:32.280 --> 0:26:35.000
<v Speaker 4>complicated that you have to remember kind of how he's

0:26:35.240 --> 0:26:37.840
<v Speaker 4>put it together so that you can then recreate it.

0:26:37.920 --> 0:26:40.280
<v Speaker 4>And obviously the person who makes the edition is exactly

0:26:40.280 --> 0:26:42.159
<v Speaker 4>what it's supposed to look like, so they've got a

0:26:42.280 --> 0:26:44.200
<v Speaker 4>clean picture in their mind of what they're doing.

0:26:44.400 --> 0:26:46.640
<v Speaker 3>Where it's me recreating it off memory.

0:26:46.960 --> 0:26:49.480
<v Speaker 4>After having gone through that cook I did like draw

0:26:49.480 --> 0:26:51.880
<v Speaker 4>a little image for myself to kind of figure out

0:26:51.880 --> 0:26:55.240
<v Speaker 4>what it was, while my recollection of is not as accurate.

0:26:55.320 --> 0:26:57.960
<v Speaker 4>So it is a little bit difficult where to put

0:26:57.960 --> 0:27:00.080
<v Speaker 4>the twigs where I need to put the carrot the

0:27:00.160 --> 0:27:02.719
<v Speaker 4>film itself, So it is a little bit more complicated

0:27:02.800 --> 0:27:04.600
<v Speaker 4>for us because we don't actually have that clear picture

0:27:04.840 --> 0:27:06.560
<v Speaker 4>probably by the end of it. But you know, I

0:27:06.640 --> 0:27:08.000
<v Speaker 4>put my best fit for it, and I gave my

0:27:08.040 --> 0:27:11.000
<v Speaker 4>best effort. It looked messy or the elements at least

0:27:11.000 --> 0:27:12.720
<v Speaker 4>on the plate, So we're happy with that.

0:27:12.920 --> 0:27:13.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we're happy with that.

0:27:14.000 --> 0:27:17.240
<v Speaker 1>So I kind of like the cake slightly undercooked. I

0:27:17.240 --> 0:27:19.920
<v Speaker 1>don't know, you know, i'd fail because I wouldn't. I

0:27:19.960 --> 0:27:22.359
<v Speaker 1>don't think I'd necessarily be cooking for that. But you know,

0:27:22.440 --> 0:27:25.360
<v Speaker 1>sometimes where there's a little bit of undercooked cake can

0:27:25.400 --> 0:27:27.800
<v Speaker 1>be something quite delicious. So when I heard it was

0:27:27.800 --> 0:27:29.840
<v Speaker 1>a little bit undercooked the carrot cake, I was like,

0:27:30.160 --> 0:27:32.000
<v Speaker 1>I reckon, that sounds delicious.

0:27:32.600 --> 0:27:34.639
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, look, it's a preference, and I guess because it

0:27:34.680 --> 0:27:37.520
<v Speaker 4>needed to look like the actual dessert were recreating his.

0:27:37.680 --> 0:27:40.119
<v Speaker 4>If his was perfectly cooked, ours also needed to be

0:27:40.200 --> 0:27:42.240
<v Speaker 4>perfectly cooked. But yeah, look, I'm not impartible to a

0:27:42.320 --> 0:27:45.760
<v Speaker 4>bit of undercooked cake either if I want what do

0:27:45.840 --> 0:27:46.080
<v Speaker 4>we know?

0:27:46.160 --> 0:27:51.160
<v Speaker 1>We only care about savory. How has this Master Chef

0:27:51.200 --> 0:27:54.280
<v Speaker 1>experience changed your life? Because high risk, high reward, I

0:27:54.280 --> 0:27:57.240
<v Speaker 1>should probably say, have you walked out of that experience

0:27:57.840 --> 0:27:59.920
<v Speaker 1>being a different person for this competition.

0:28:00.000 --> 0:28:01.720
<v Speaker 4>I think the main thing I had an issue with

0:28:01.800 --> 0:28:05.119
<v Speaker 4>the start was always trying to make so many decisions

0:28:05.160 --> 0:28:07.520
<v Speaker 4>in my head before I actually started cooking, and this

0:28:07.600 --> 0:28:10.600
<v Speaker 4>competition has actually given me the ability to make quick,

0:28:10.640 --> 0:28:13.800
<v Speaker 4>smart decisions, maybe taking an element off. It's allowed my

0:28:13.880 --> 0:28:16.480
<v Speaker 4>judgment of food and I guess my palette as well

0:28:16.640 --> 0:28:19.639
<v Speaker 4>to evolve. When I started up, I used to think

0:28:19.680 --> 0:28:21.639
<v Speaker 4>I was a good cook, which I was, but getting

0:28:21.640 --> 0:28:23.960
<v Speaker 4>into show you realize there are small, little smart things

0:28:24.000 --> 0:28:26.960
<v Speaker 4>you can do to make yourself even better. It's a

0:28:27.000 --> 0:28:29.120
<v Speaker 4>bit of salt, yeah, it's a bit of a namami

0:28:29.200 --> 0:28:31.520
<v Speaker 4>flavor there that kind of elevates that dish to a

0:28:31.560 --> 0:28:34.159
<v Speaker 4>new level that you'd only think was restaurant quality. But

0:28:34.240 --> 0:28:36.840
<v Speaker 4>it's just about thinking about that dish in a different way.

0:28:37.160 --> 0:28:38.800
<v Speaker 4>And a lot of my dishes that I did really

0:28:38.800 --> 0:28:41.720
<v Speaker 4>well in I would focus on three elements and I

0:28:41.720 --> 0:28:44.640
<v Speaker 4>would perfect every single one. So it was just that

0:28:44.640 --> 0:28:47.400
<v Speaker 4>show gave me the ability to think, I guess more clearly,

0:28:47.480 --> 0:28:49.880
<v Speaker 4>and to be very restrictive in what I do, but

0:28:49.960 --> 0:28:53.160
<v Speaker 4>to execute everything I did really well so in terms

0:28:53.160 --> 0:28:54.840
<v Speaker 4>of being in the kitchen, it really did help in

0:28:54.840 --> 0:28:58.120
<v Speaker 4>that regard. I'm now more confident with flavors. I'm more

0:28:58.160 --> 0:29:01.160
<v Speaker 4>willing to try and push things out and try things

0:29:01.200 --> 0:29:04.440
<v Speaker 4>that I usually wouldn't and pestflators that I've never been with,

0:29:04.560 --> 0:29:06.840
<v Speaker 4>but also have the ability to balance that should I

0:29:06.920 --> 0:29:08.560
<v Speaker 4>go too far one way or with the other. So

0:29:08.920 --> 0:29:11.120
<v Speaker 4>it has actually increased my I guess, my skill and

0:29:11.120 --> 0:29:13.760
<v Speaker 4>my knowledge and my confidence in the kitchen as well.

0:29:13.920 --> 0:29:15.320
<v Speaker 1>I think if you were to come back and do

0:29:15.400 --> 0:29:18.280
<v Speaker 1>that experience again, now that you've gone through it, you know,

0:29:18.360 --> 0:29:20.680
<v Speaker 1>probably gives you a better understanding, and then you know,

0:29:20.720 --> 0:29:23.920
<v Speaker 1>obviously you've leveled up with your skills. Who do you think, though,

0:29:24.200 --> 0:29:26.920
<v Speaker 1>out of this series that we've seen be eliminated so far,

0:29:27.160 --> 0:29:29.520
<v Speaker 1>who do you think may deserve to go back and

0:29:29.560 --> 0:29:30.440
<v Speaker 1>have a second chance.

0:29:30.760 --> 0:29:31.520
<v Speaker 3>Oh, tough one.

0:29:31.720 --> 0:29:36.560
<v Speaker 4>Obviously I'll choose myself, of course, ap were completely honest,

0:29:36.560 --> 0:29:38.840
<v Speaker 4>I would choose myself because I feel like I would

0:29:38.840 --> 0:29:42.080
<v Speaker 4>love another go at it. But look, everyone is really amazing,

0:29:42.080 --> 0:29:44.600
<v Speaker 4>and Tonio was really good. Jess was amazing as well,

0:29:44.840 --> 0:29:47.160
<v Speaker 4>Robbie wi spectacular. There was a lot of good chefs

0:29:47.200 --> 0:29:50.080
<v Speaker 4>that unfortunately had that bad cook on the wrong day,

0:29:50.280 --> 0:29:53.000
<v Speaker 4>because we'll always like everyone in the kitchen doesn't have

0:29:53.040 --> 0:29:54.040
<v Speaker 4>excellent cooks every day.

0:29:54.200 --> 0:29:55.440
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes we have bad cooks.

0:29:55.440 --> 0:29:57.640
<v Speaker 4>It's just unfortunate if that bad cook is on an

0:29:57.680 --> 0:30:00.800
<v Speaker 4>elimination day. Unfortunately, that's what what's sends you home. So

0:30:01.040 --> 0:30:02.640
<v Speaker 4>there are a couple of people that I would have

0:30:02.720 --> 0:30:05.800
<v Speaker 4>loved to see go further and see how far this

0:30:05.840 --> 0:30:07.160
<v Speaker 4>competition would have stretched them.

0:30:07.400 --> 0:30:10.640
<v Speaker 1>I really enjoyed Robbie, like I felt like having someone

0:30:10.640 --> 0:30:12.680
<v Speaker 1>a little bit older was a little bit different as well,

0:30:12.760 --> 0:30:16.000
<v Speaker 1>and just seeing him at that age being able to

0:30:16.160 --> 0:30:18.400
<v Speaker 1>explore and take on a challenge like that, I think

0:30:18.400 --> 0:30:20.560
<v Speaker 1>it was really important for viewers watching the show.

0:30:21.120 --> 0:30:23.400
<v Speaker 4>It was and he was such a positive impact on

0:30:23.560 --> 0:30:25.840
<v Speaker 4>all of us. Obviously being a little he had so

0:30:25.920 --> 0:30:28.800
<v Speaker 4>much knowledge and experience. And the thing I loved about

0:30:28.880 --> 0:30:31.280
<v Speaker 4>Robbie is he was never scared or he was never

0:30:31.640 --> 0:30:34.320
<v Speaker 4>never scared, but he was never withholding of that experience.

0:30:34.360 --> 0:30:37.080
<v Speaker 4>He's never withholding of that Of all the knowledge he has,

0:30:37.120 --> 0:30:39.440
<v Speaker 4>he shared everything with all of us, and I really

0:30:39.440 --> 0:30:42.480
<v Speaker 4>appreciate that because that's what this experience is about growing,

0:30:42.480 --> 0:30:45.040
<v Speaker 4>it's about learning, and he was always there to share

0:30:45.320 --> 0:30:47.600
<v Speaker 4>everything with us, and if we had questions, he'd happily

0:30:47.680 --> 0:30:49.960
<v Speaker 4>answer them. You'd show us little tips and tricks as well.

0:30:50.040 --> 0:30:52.200
<v Speaker 4>So I really appreciated that from him, and he was

0:30:52.240 --> 0:30:52.960
<v Speaker 4>a lovely song.

0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:55.320
<v Speaker 1>Did you have an idea as to who you thought

0:30:55.720 --> 0:30:57.280
<v Speaker 1>he is going to take the competition out?

0:30:57.440 --> 0:30:57.520
<v Speaker 3>Like?

0:30:57.840 --> 0:30:59.880
<v Speaker 1>Was it starting to look clear as to who's going

0:30:59.920 --> 0:31:00.280
<v Speaker 1>to win?

0:31:00.840 --> 0:31:01.000
<v Speaker 3>Oh?

0:31:01.120 --> 0:31:04.360
<v Speaker 4>Goodness, you think you know, and then you kind of

0:31:04.360 --> 0:31:06.120
<v Speaker 4>see a cook and go, oh no, they've they've made

0:31:06.120 --> 0:31:07.720
<v Speaker 4>a mistake, you know what I mean? Like every cook

0:31:07.800 --> 0:31:09.760
<v Speaker 4>is so different that you might think it's for one

0:31:09.760 --> 0:31:12.280
<v Speaker 4>person today and then tomorrow, unfortunate that the bad cook,

0:31:12.280 --> 0:31:14.680
<v Speaker 4>which means they go home. There's there's no I guess,

0:31:14.680 --> 0:31:17.040
<v Speaker 4>clear front runner at this point in time. There's like

0:31:17.120 --> 0:31:19.040
<v Speaker 4>at the moment, I'd be like, I'd love Rute to

0:31:19.040 --> 0:31:21.200
<v Speaker 4>win it for w A and she can bring it

0:31:21.200 --> 0:31:23.280
<v Speaker 4>home for us because of fortunately she's the last one

0:31:23.280 --> 0:31:26.560
<v Speaker 4>of us left. But you know, it's it's just it's

0:31:26.640 --> 0:31:30.400
<v Speaker 4>the competition really changes day today and that kitchen levels.

0:31:30.440 --> 0:31:32.440
<v Speaker 3>Everybody every day is a new cook.

0:31:32.600 --> 0:31:34.520
<v Speaker 4>So no matter how well you did the day before,

0:31:34.560 --> 0:31:37.320
<v Speaker 4>you could you could go home the following night. And

0:31:37.360 --> 0:31:40.480
<v Speaker 4>that's kind of I guess what keeps the competition exciting

0:31:40.520 --> 0:31:42.720
<v Speaker 4>because you don't know how songs going to cook the

0:31:42.720 --> 0:31:45.440
<v Speaker 4>next day. But everyone's trying their absolute best. So no

0:31:45.560 --> 0:31:47.080
<v Speaker 4>clear front runner as to who's going to do it.

0:31:47.080 --> 0:31:49.120
<v Speaker 4>But I mean, I've got my my favorites that I

0:31:49.120 --> 0:31:50.760
<v Speaker 4>want to take it out now that I've left.

0:31:51.080 --> 0:31:53.480
<v Speaker 1>But what about maybe people that you know you think

0:31:53.640 --> 0:31:55.760
<v Speaker 1>could do the most with this win, Like, who do

0:31:55.800 --> 0:31:58.840
<v Speaker 1>you think if they won this competition they would take

0:31:58.840 --> 0:32:00.160
<v Speaker 1>it the furtherest after the sho.

0:32:00.400 --> 0:32:01.160
<v Speaker 3>That's a good question.

0:32:02.040 --> 0:32:05.000
<v Speaker 4>We're all relatively ambitious as to what we want to do.

0:32:05.600 --> 0:32:09.560
<v Speaker 4>Ruth loves the fact she makes amazing desserts, and I

0:32:09.560 --> 0:32:11.560
<v Speaker 4>feel like she could make a lovely like turn that

0:32:11.600 --> 0:32:13.880
<v Speaker 4>into a lovely bakery business that you could open.

0:32:14.000 --> 0:32:16.800
<v Speaker 3>Feel makes the most spectacular.

0:32:16.160 --> 0:32:18.680
<v Speaker 4>Bread I've ever eaten in my entire life, and that

0:32:18.720 --> 0:32:21.120
<v Speaker 4>could be a bakery as well. So there's so many people,

0:32:21.280 --> 0:32:23.880
<v Speaker 4>so much talent. I think any one of them would

0:32:24.040 --> 0:32:27.080
<v Speaker 4>would do amazing with the opportunity because they all have

0:32:27.160 --> 0:32:29.720
<v Speaker 4>a clear image of what they want coming out of

0:32:29.720 --> 0:32:33.480
<v Speaker 4>this competition. So if you have that your oars to well,

0:32:33.520 --> 0:32:36.480
<v Speaker 4>if I guess pick one on just based on what

0:32:36.520 --> 0:32:39.360
<v Speaker 4>they want to do, and I guess excel I just

0:32:39.600 --> 0:32:42.880
<v Speaker 4>feel probably just because his idea is so clear in

0:32:42.960 --> 0:32:47.320
<v Speaker 4>his mind and he's perfected his craft to a level

0:32:47.320 --> 0:32:49.640
<v Speaker 4>I don't think I've seen, I guess, at least in

0:32:49.680 --> 0:32:52.280
<v Speaker 4>my lifetime, and the one that I've been or had

0:32:52.320 --> 0:32:54.080
<v Speaker 4>the privilege for cooking with the way he makes bread

0:32:54.200 --> 0:32:55.520
<v Speaker 4>is something spectacular.

0:32:55.680 --> 0:32:57.760
<v Speaker 1>There's something a little bit special about him as well, though,

0:32:57.880 --> 0:32:59.680
<v Speaker 1>like is in I think that you need a bit

0:32:59.680 --> 0:33:03.320
<v Speaker 1>of a personality edge. I think you know, it's it's

0:33:03.320 --> 0:33:06.400
<v Speaker 1>a combination of things as to how well you take

0:33:06.520 --> 0:33:08.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, how well you play this after the show,

0:33:08.960 --> 0:33:10.760
<v Speaker 1>but you kind of have to have a few of

0:33:10.760 --> 0:33:13.479
<v Speaker 1>those elements. Like you've obviously got it. I could sit here,

0:33:13.520 --> 0:33:16.959
<v Speaker 1>I honestly could talk to you forever because an infectious

0:33:17.000 --> 0:33:20.320
<v Speaker 1>way of putting things together. What's interested in his story

0:33:20.520 --> 0:33:21.880
<v Speaker 1>beyond just the food.

0:33:21.880 --> 0:33:24.280
<v Speaker 4>One hundred percent? And I guess that's the reason that

0:33:24.320 --> 0:33:26.760
<v Speaker 4>we all make it. We all do have interesting stories

0:33:26.760 --> 0:33:28.760
<v Speaker 4>and we love and the way we I guess particularly

0:33:28.800 --> 0:33:30.640
<v Speaker 4>and share that with people is what draws you in.

0:33:30.920 --> 0:33:33.480
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, he's definitely got that factor, and I think

0:33:33.720 --> 0:33:35.560
<v Speaker 4>most of all of us do, as well, so you're right,

0:33:35.560 --> 0:33:37.360
<v Speaker 4>it is important to have that because you want to

0:33:37.360 --> 0:33:39.880
<v Speaker 4>be along that journey with someone as they're growing and

0:33:40.400 --> 0:33:42.840
<v Speaker 4>finding new things exciting, and they're sharing all of that

0:33:42.920 --> 0:33:43.200
<v Speaker 4>with you.

0:33:43.520 --> 0:33:44.760
<v Speaker 3>It's quite an experience.

0:33:45.000 --> 0:33:47.280
<v Speaker 1>Contestants have to be aspirational, you know what I mean,

0:33:47.320 --> 0:33:48.640
<v Speaker 1>Like you kind of have to want to be them

0:33:48.680 --> 0:33:51.040
<v Speaker 1>in a strange way, and I think that's a part

0:33:51.080 --> 0:33:53.000
<v Speaker 1>of the magic of the show. And I feel like,

0:33:53.080 --> 0:33:55.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, with people that want to follow your journey

0:33:55.560 --> 0:33:58.560
<v Speaker 1>moving forward, Now, what are you planning on doing? Like,

0:33:58.600 --> 0:34:00.880
<v Speaker 1>what's I mean? Of course we can follow on your

0:34:00.880 --> 0:34:03.360
<v Speaker 1>social media, but have you been thinking about where you

0:34:03.400 --> 0:34:04.600
<v Speaker 1>want to take this experience.

0:34:04.880 --> 0:34:07.560
<v Speaker 4>Oh look, I've got so many ideas kind of floating

0:34:07.600 --> 0:34:09.759
<v Speaker 4>around my head, and I think I like, obviously after

0:34:09.800 --> 0:34:12.040
<v Speaker 4>the cooking, you need a bit of time just to

0:34:12.160 --> 0:34:14.880
<v Speaker 4>kind of settle down and relax a little bit. And

0:34:14.920 --> 0:34:18.080
<v Speaker 4>then for me, it's it's my process always been the same.

0:34:18.160 --> 0:34:20.480
<v Speaker 4>The main thing I always wanted out of food was

0:34:20.520 --> 0:34:23.400
<v Speaker 4>to be able to share that with people, to allow

0:34:23.440 --> 0:34:24.960
<v Speaker 4>you to, I guess see a bit of what I

0:34:25.040 --> 0:34:27.440
<v Speaker 4>enjoy doing, but also just to show you that cooking

0:34:27.719 --> 0:34:30.399
<v Speaker 4>can be done by anyone. Cooking is for family. It's

0:34:30.440 --> 0:34:33.480
<v Speaker 4>that unifier that brings people together. So in the future,

0:34:33.480 --> 0:34:36.200
<v Speaker 4>I'll be looking to do things like maybe a pop

0:34:36.280 --> 0:34:39.759
<v Speaker 4>up where I can just meet I guess people within

0:34:39.800 --> 0:34:44.040
<v Speaker 4>my region of wa share that food with them. If

0:34:44.040 --> 0:34:46.320
<v Speaker 4>there's some sort of classes, I'll look at doing as well,

0:34:47.400 --> 0:34:52.279
<v Speaker 4>maybe in the near future cookbooks trying to get through

0:34:52.320 --> 0:34:54.960
<v Speaker 4>I guess the YouTube where people can watch a full

0:34:55.040 --> 0:34:59.240
<v Speaker 4>tutorial off my actual cooking. So now on social media,

0:34:59.320 --> 0:35:01.279
<v Speaker 4>I'll you a cook and I'll kind of break it

0:35:01.280 --> 0:35:04.080
<v Speaker 4>down into small, manageable pieces so that you can follow

0:35:04.120 --> 0:35:06.319
<v Speaker 4>along a bit. But I'm thinking maybe of extending that

0:35:06.360 --> 0:35:08.880
<v Speaker 4>into like a long format where you can actually I

0:35:08.880 --> 0:35:11.160
<v Speaker 4>can do it step by step and explain each step

0:35:11.200 --> 0:35:12.880
<v Speaker 4>with you. And I guess that's the goal for me

0:35:13.040 --> 0:35:15.360
<v Speaker 4>is kind of find a way that or vehicle that

0:35:15.400 --> 0:35:18.000
<v Speaker 4>allows me to share everything that I know about food,

0:35:18.040 --> 0:35:20.720
<v Speaker 4>but also for people think to inquire and ask questions

0:35:20.760 --> 0:35:22.839
<v Speaker 4>and I can help and we can kind of work

0:35:22.840 --> 0:35:23.520
<v Speaker 4>and grow together.

0:35:23.719 --> 0:35:25.280
<v Speaker 3>So that's the plan for the future.

0:35:25.440 --> 0:35:28.120
<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm in your audience. I think a lot of

0:35:28.160 --> 0:35:29.480
<v Speaker 1>people are going to be in your audience. A lot

0:35:29.480 --> 0:35:31.680
<v Speaker 1>of people be watching and waiting to see where those

0:35:31.719 --> 0:35:33.879
<v Speaker 1>pop ups will turn up so that we can come

0:35:33.920 --> 0:35:36.080
<v Speaker 1>and try your food and also for you to continue

0:35:36.080 --> 0:35:39.040
<v Speaker 1>to share your story. Something that I ask everyone who

0:35:39.120 --> 0:35:41.880
<v Speaker 1>joins the podcast is what's something from behind the scenes,

0:35:42.160 --> 0:35:44.400
<v Speaker 1>something that we as an audience probably didn't get a

0:35:44.480 --> 0:35:46.840
<v Speaker 1>chance to see watching the show, but kind of like

0:35:47.080 --> 0:35:48.960
<v Speaker 1>maybe a bit of a behind the scenes secret of

0:35:49.120 --> 0:35:51.120
<v Speaker 1>what it's like to be a contestant or mastership.

0:35:51.320 --> 0:35:53.839
<v Speaker 4>Har goodness, there's I guess the behind the scenes stuff

0:35:53.880 --> 0:35:56.080
<v Speaker 4>that we do. It's mainly when we're when we're back home,

0:35:56.800 --> 0:35:58.759
<v Speaker 4>whether a movie night where we be put on it

0:35:58.960 --> 0:36:01.799
<v Speaker 4>often exhausted day, we'd all get together and kind of

0:36:01.800 --> 0:36:04.120
<v Speaker 4>do it a pot luck and do like a quick

0:36:04.320 --> 0:36:07.200
<v Speaker 4>movie night where we actually get to relax and unwine,

0:36:07.239 --> 0:36:09.319
<v Speaker 4>because every other day it's just cooking. We get home

0:36:09.400 --> 0:36:11.319
<v Speaker 4>most days and most of us practice a couple of things.

0:36:11.480 --> 0:36:13.359
<v Speaker 4>But we'd take like a day on a Saturday if

0:36:13.360 --> 0:36:15.799
<v Speaker 4>we had one, and we would get a movie night going,

0:36:15.800 --> 0:36:17.719
<v Speaker 4>we do a pot luck, We're going grab popcorn. We'd

0:36:17.760 --> 0:36:19.880
<v Speaker 4>also done in a room and just like kind of

0:36:19.920 --> 0:36:22.640
<v Speaker 4>relaxed and watch a movie just to kind of unwind.

0:36:22.680 --> 0:36:24.200
<v Speaker 3>But it also kind of brought us all together.

0:36:24.280 --> 0:36:26.160
<v Speaker 4>This group of people that we worked with now were

0:36:26.200 --> 0:36:29.359
<v Speaker 4>all really good people, amazing people. I guess the thing

0:36:29.400 --> 0:36:32.480
<v Speaker 4>that we love doing with multiple dance parties at all times,

0:36:32.520 --> 0:36:35.160
<v Speaker 4>just because I think we love the energy of everyone

0:36:35.200 --> 0:36:37.319
<v Speaker 4>around us. So every minute on the set where we

0:36:37.320 --> 0:36:39.239
<v Speaker 4>had a break, it'd be a little dance party or

0:36:39.280 --> 0:36:41.440
<v Speaker 4>a little sing along because I love singing with my

0:36:41.480 --> 0:36:43.440
<v Speaker 4>whole heart. So those are the sorts of things that

0:36:43.520 --> 0:36:45.239
<v Speaker 4>I guess you guys would have missed, but it's something

0:36:45.239 --> 0:36:47.160
<v Speaker 4>that kind of unified us and brought us all together.

0:36:47.360 --> 0:36:49.359
<v Speaker 1>How long were you filming for? How long were you

0:36:49.520 --> 0:36:50.600
<v Speaker 1>specifically away for.

0:36:50.840 --> 0:36:52.800
<v Speaker 4>I think I would say I was probably away for

0:36:52.960 --> 0:36:57.359
<v Speaker 4>two months. Yeah, it is, it is, but I mean

0:36:57.400 --> 0:37:00.560
<v Speaker 4>when you when you're going for your goal and your dream,

0:37:01.200 --> 0:37:03.480
<v Speaker 4>you kind of sacrifice a little bit because that time

0:37:03.560 --> 0:37:07.200
<v Speaker 4>or even family, friends, your job is all a bit

0:37:07.200 --> 0:37:09.480
<v Speaker 4>of a sacrifice, but you know that the end result

0:37:09.520 --> 0:37:11.680
<v Speaker 4>is you're doing something that you're passionate about and something

0:37:11.680 --> 0:37:12.120
<v Speaker 4>that you love.

0:37:12.440 --> 0:37:14.439
<v Speaker 1>Well, the judges said you're on your way to where

0:37:14.480 --> 0:37:16.560
<v Speaker 1>you want to be, which I can agree with. I

0:37:16.640 --> 0:37:18.960
<v Speaker 1>think you really are well on your way. I want

0:37:18.960 --> 0:37:20.600
<v Speaker 1>to say thank you so much for taking the time

0:37:20.640 --> 0:37:22.359
<v Speaker 1>to chat with me this morning. You know, I thought

0:37:22.360 --> 0:37:24.320
<v Speaker 1>you were fantastic on the show, and as I said,

0:37:24.520 --> 0:37:26.520
<v Speaker 1>I'll look forward to watching you know what you do

0:37:26.600 --> 0:37:28.279
<v Speaker 1>with your story moving forward.

0:37:28.320 --> 0:37:29.640
<v Speaker 3>And I really appreciate Jajamin.

0:37:29.719 --> 0:37:31.439
<v Speaker 4>Thank you for taking the time to have a chat

0:37:31.440 --> 0:37:34.440
<v Speaker 4>with me as well today