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Speaker 1: Jum mission with Jones and Amanda.

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Speaker 2: Well, the last time I saw our next guest, we

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Speaker 2: were at the airport coming home from Melbourne morning after

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Speaker 2: the logis he was carrying a brand new gold accessory

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Speaker 2: and it wasn't the gruels on his teeth. Well, Tom

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Speaker 2: Gleason has a new show, a new book, and we

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Speaker 2: thought it was time we got him on for a chat.

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Speaker 1: Hello Tom, good morning, great to see you.

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Speaker 2: Well, look, it's been some time.

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Speaker 3: Do you want me to get that to it? Why

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Speaker 3: don't I step out of the room. You two kids real?

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Speaker 2: You know what I did laugh at you on the

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Speaker 2: morning after. You were very sweet and you said that

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Speaker 2: your wife was annoyed that you'd won.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, she wanted you to win. That It was

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Speaker 1: pretty clear she wants you to win because he's a

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Speaker 1: big fan of you. So and my wife enjoys my

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Speaker 1: comedy kind of And yeah, she was enjoying what I

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Speaker 1: was doing, and she knew what I was doing, but

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Speaker 1: she was actually wanting you to win.

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Speaker 2: Well, when you say what you were doing, I mean

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Speaker 2: we knew that you you know, you saw this as

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Speaker 2: a comedy trope, I guess. But what got lost in

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Speaker 2: the miasma of the whole thing was that there were

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Speaker 2: humans involved, and this wasn't necessarily what you did, It's

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Speaker 2: just how it was written up. I was just saying

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Speaker 2: on air before. I found it very hard being in

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Speaker 2: the center of a storm not of my making, where

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Speaker 2: it felt like it had been mine to lose, and

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Speaker 2: everyone didn't know how to talk to me as if

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Speaker 2: I'd been the loser. I found that really hard.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I launched attack ads on every other candidate

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Speaker 1: because what I was doing was I mimicked Scott Morrison's

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Speaker 1: election strategy, so he said you have to go negative

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Speaker 1: to win, so I did the same thing. But they

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Speaker 1: were comedy sketches. I mean, you're very hard to write

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Speaker 1: negative things about. I think, how getch about you said

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Speaker 1: that you were untrustworthy because I'm beyond two thousand. You

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Speaker 1: said that they were going to be flying cars one

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Speaker 1: day and they didn't turn up. I mean that's as

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Speaker 1: good as we could get trying to say it a

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Speaker 1: bad thing about a man.

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Speaker 3: I think that's a good platform Tom because there's no

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Speaker 3: there is no flying cars.

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Speaker 1: That's it. But then of course people in the media

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Speaker 1: they thrive on conflict, so then they just write it

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Speaker 1: up as a genuine flood fest, even though I was

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Speaker 1: launching a comical one.

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Speaker 2: That's right. I think that the bushfire around it had

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Speaker 2: nothing to do with you or me. And that's the

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Speaker 2: bit I kind of struggled with a bit. Have you

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Speaker 2: have you had a chat with Grant? Because I did

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Speaker 2: feel on the night when you said that you'd want

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Speaker 2: it for him the year before, I kind of felt

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Speaker 2: that it diluted his achievements. Have you have you seen him?

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Speaker 1: I have seen him. I don't think i've seen him

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Speaker 1: since I was going to do a celebrity name game,

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Speaker 1: but unfortunately that show didn't last long enough for me

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Speaker 1: to get on it. Yeah, so I haven't seen him since,

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Speaker 1: but I have been in communication with him. He's always

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Speaker 1: kept and seending me dirty jokes.

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Speaker 2: You know, well exists like than the locker room footballer.

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Speaker 3: So everything seems to be so everything seems to be okay,

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Speaker 3: everything's oh, of.

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Speaker 2: Course, And it was never between Tom and me, as

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Speaker 2: I said, And that's that's what I didn't like, is

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Speaker 2: I felt like I was cast in the center of

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Speaker 2: some storm that actually didn't really exist. It was how

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Speaker 2: other people looked at me.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's because you are very high profile, so people

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Speaker 1: saw you as being the most likely person to win

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Speaker 1: other than myself. So, well, look at the US, it's

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Speaker 1: all Biden versus Trump. That's just a very easy story

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Speaker 1: to write, is Amanda versus Tom. So it kept getting

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Speaker 1: written that way. But the truth is I was the

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Speaker 1: favorite to win all along, except the thing some people forget.

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Speaker 1: According to all the betting agencies, I was always the

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Speaker 1: favorite to win. That's true. That's true.

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Speaker 2: That's true, and that's something. That's why I thought it

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Speaker 2: was funny watching Trump last night when he said, Hey,

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Speaker 2: you know, I'm going to call this is fraud. They

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Speaker 2: haven't even counted the votes. You absolute are a television

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Speaker 2: personality in your own right with a very successful show

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Speaker 2: that there didn't need to be trickery for you to win.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think that the ABC is a bit of

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Speaker 1: a blind spot for people because I went on the

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Speaker 1: Today Show at around the time when I was campaigning

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Speaker 1: leading up to the LOGI, and they said they're asking

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Speaker 1: me something about whether heart whether I should win. I said, well,

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Speaker 1: Hard Quiz rates more than all the other Golden nominees shows,

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Speaker 1: and they laughed in my face because they thought I

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Speaker 1: was joking.

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Speaker 2: That's true.

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Speaker 1: That's because people just don't People just don't know. People

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Speaker 1: don't pay attention to the ABC. Everyone. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: open up the newspaper, everyone'll be talking about the Bachelor

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Speaker 1: and stuff like that. But it's Hard Quiz rates more

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Speaker 1: than it. But but people don't care about the ABC,

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Speaker 1: so it just gets it gets it gets overlooked on you.

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Speaker 3: This is your this is your like Rosa Parks moment

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Speaker 3: for the ABC.

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Speaker 1: I am Rosa Park.

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Speaker 2: You know that you love your public transport.

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Speaker 1: It could put together.

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Speaker 2: So tell us about Hard Quiz then, because you've got

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Speaker 2: what's your Hard Quiz book? What's this one?

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Speaker 1: Well, this is this is the writers wrote wrote this.

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Speaker 1: This is not from me, so essentially that if you've

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Speaker 1: watched Hard Quiz, you know a lot of research and

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Speaker 1: effort goes into the writing of the questions and there

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Speaker 1: are a lot of tasty facts that just we don't

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Speaker 1: get to because often contestants don't get to the final round,

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Speaker 1: so we don't get to find out all the good

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Speaker 1: stuff that we learned. So the writers at Hard Quiz

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Speaker 1: Headquarters or HQ HQ as we like to call it,

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Speaker 1: then put together a book. So this is by Jared mcculoch,

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Speaker 1: Adam Richard, and the also the executive producer Chris Walker.

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Speaker 1: It's like, you know the Guinness Book of World Records,

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Speaker 1: you know, It's like it's all these tasty facts condensed

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Speaker 1: into this book for people to enjoy.

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Speaker 3: If you had to pick a hard quiz subject, what

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Speaker 3: would your expertise be, Amanda Keller?

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Speaker 2: You know my favorite? It wasn't someone's I cate agree

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Speaker 2: that washing machines from the nineteen fifties.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. That guy was great. So he that's Leon.

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Speaker 1: He's from Brisbane and he came along. Yeah, his subject

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Speaker 1: was a vintage Australian washing machine and he he has

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Speaker 1: a collection in his basement. And the best part is

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Speaker 1: he regaled the audience when we weren't on air about

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Speaker 1: washing machines, but the audience was just riveted. He could

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Speaker 1: just talk about them all day and every time would

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Speaker 1: start again, he'd go back into the quiz. Then he

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Speaker 1: got booted out, so we brought him back for our

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Speaker 1: we have around where we bring people back called Battle

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Speaker 1: of the Duds, and he got booted out of that too.

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Speaker 1: So Leon is a double dud.

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Speaker 2: Were double dud, But he's got a basement with his

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Speaker 2: washing machine.

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Speaker 3: Isn't that where you keep your washing machine?

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Speaker 1: No? No, no, he keeps like thirty in there. Thirty.

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Speaker 1: It's like a museum.

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Speaker 2: Nothing more sexually attractive than the thought of a man

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Speaker 2: who's into Washington. We must really get the chicks with

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Speaker 2: his mangle, right.

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Speaker 3: Well, Tom, it's great to have you on the show

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Speaker 3: at last. Don't be a stranger.

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Speaker 2: It's nice to break bread with you, metaphorically over the radio.

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Speaker 3: Tom, I could go with some bread though. The hard

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Speaker 3: Quiz Book of the World's Hardest Asses is available today.

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Speaker 3: Tom Gleason, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no worries, and I'll see you at the Logis

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Speaker 1: next year. Amanda.

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Speaker 2: All right, Tom, we'll hold hands, see.

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Speaker 1: You by even if I win again.

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Speaker 2: Well, I might break your knuckles, but we'll see how

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Speaker 2: we go.

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Speaker 3: See you, Tom, I might watch it from home. Thank you, Tom,

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Speaker 3: with James and Amanda,