WEBVTT - HERstory Part 3: Whitney Wolfe Herd

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to acknowledge the traditional owners on which this

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<v Speaker 1>episode is being recorded, the combo marry people. We pay

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<v Speaker 1>our respects to elders past, present and emerging, and extend

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<v Speaker 1>that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples.

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<v Speaker 1>Today I'm your host, Georgie Stevenson, and this is the

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<v Speaker 1>Rise and Conquer podcast. This is the podcast where we

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<v Speaker 1>ch have mindset, self development and becoming your higher self

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<v Speaker 1>mix soon with a lot of laughs, plus behind the

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<v Speaker 1>scenes of my life running two businesses and being among

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<v Speaker 1>Think of us as the perfect combo of brunch with

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<v Speaker 1>your besties mixed with self development. No matter where you

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<v Speaker 1>are in your journey, we're here to help you be curious,

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<v Speaker 1>pull yourself out, and embrace radical self awareness. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>ready to get into the driver's seat of your own

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<v Speaker 1>life and stop letting life pass you by, then you're

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<v Speaker 1>in the right place. Hello everybody, Welcome back to the

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<v Speaker 1>Body and Happy Friday. We hope you have been loving

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<v Speaker 1>these her Story episodes because we have part three or

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<v Speaker 1>four today and we'll be talking about Whitney wolf Hurd,

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<v Speaker 1>who is the founder of Bumble So Exciting, Soboty Exciting,

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<v Speaker 1>God she's she is like, I want to be her

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<v Speaker 1>when I grow up. I love it. So, guys, if

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't know in Her Story series, in each episode

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<v Speaker 1>we share stories of iconic women who have made history

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<v Speaker 1>or who are currently making history. So these women are

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<v Speaker 1>trailblazers in their chosen careers. They're doing things differently, and

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<v Speaker 1>what we do is we unpack the aspects and the

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<v Speaker 1>values that they model in everything they do, and we

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<v Speaker 1>really discuss how we can use them as expanders and

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<v Speaker 1>apply it to our own life. But what this series

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<v Speaker 1>is about is I want we really wanted to provoke

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<v Speaker 1>some thoughts of like what are you leaving behind? Like

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<v Speaker 1>what is your legacy? What is the impact you were

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<v Speaker 1>leaving behind, Like could you do things differently? Could you

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<v Speaker 1>think outside the box? And how you can really push

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<v Speaker 1>yourself out of your comfort zone. Because there's such a

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<v Speaker 1>key theme here with the women we chose, and they

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<v Speaker 1>really are stepping outside of their comfort zone. So this

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<v Speaker 1>episode is really really incredible. Whitney's story is whole, Like

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<v Speaker 1>it's just.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I admire her strength and integrity so much.

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<v Speaker 1>It's yeah, her integrity is just yeah incredible, And I

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<v Speaker 1>think you guys are going to listen and like wow,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's no wonder she was the youngest female who

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<v Speaker 1>took bumble public, like she was a self made billionaire,

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<v Speaker 1>and like she did it with a baby on a hip.

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<v Speaker 2>I know.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's just so inspiring as well soberly inspiring. But

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<v Speaker 1>before we get into the episode, A Tier Weekly recommendation, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>do you want.

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<v Speaker 3>To go first?

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<v Speaker 1>No, you go first.

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<v Speaker 2>My recommendation is. I feel like I recommended it on

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<v Speaker 2>the podcast last year, but I'm re recommending it because

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<v Speaker 2>I rewatched it recently. It's a movie called Rise on

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<v Speaker 2>Disney Plus. And if you watched the King Richard movie

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<v Speaker 2>before or after listening to her story EP, and you

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<v Speaker 2>enjoyed that movie, you will love this. It's the story

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<v Speaker 2>of a family who's they're basketballers, so it is another

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<v Speaker 2>sport one but these their parents migrated, not migrated, They

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<v Speaker 2>were refugees from Nigeria and lived in Greece. But these

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<v Speaker 2>three brothers ended up becoming NBA players and it's that

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<v Speaker 2>journey and like it I was in tears again at

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<v Speaker 2>the end. It's one of the best movies I've watched.

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<v Speaker 2>And their stories just so inspiring and like it's like

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<v Speaker 2>goosebumps the entire time because of the level of risk

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<v Speaker 2>this family took, and I just it blows my mind

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<v Speaker 2>every time. So that is my recommendation.

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<v Speaker 1>What is yours? Oh my god, incredible. I have to

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<v Speaker 1>put it on my list. Yeah, you definitely do. My

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<v Speaker 1>recommendation this week is, Look, this is kind of like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks Georgy. But it's like it's gonna be like a

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<v Speaker 1>tears recond there's gonna be like a tears recommendation that

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<v Speaker 1>she got out so bad because it was so basic

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<v Speaker 1>that you guys won't hear it. Kind of similar where

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<v Speaker 1>I had a moment this week where like internally and

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<v Speaker 1>in my personal life, sorry, I had a lot going on.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think sometimes I'm a routine person. So my

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<v Speaker 1>routines are like, really what I think is such a

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<v Speaker 1>huge catalyst of like my success, because like I can

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<v Speaker 1>be very disciplined and like when I create a routine,

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<v Speaker 1>like that's it and I show Yeah, And I think,

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<v Speaker 1>really what determines you as a person is how you

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<v Speaker 1>show up in the not so great times. Like I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like that really defines you because we're all gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have not so great times, and if in the not

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<v Speaker 1>so great times, you don't stick to routine and you

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<v Speaker 1>don't show up, you're never going to push for and

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<v Speaker 1>so so true my botes no, but it is. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's yeah, something I've been playing with a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>like how you show up in the shit times is

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<v Speaker 1>really the person you are? Like to the core? WHOA

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<v Speaker 1>don't you think? Yeah, Like it's it's all And I've

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<v Speaker 1>said this, like it's all well and good and the

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<v Speaker 1>good times like for example, like the example I always

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<v Speaker 1>go to a gym, but like it's just easy to explain.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's like when you're you've got like they had

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<v Speaker 1>the best sleep and you had the moon milk the

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<v Speaker 1>night before and you got your clothes out and your

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<v Speaker 1>pre workout's ready and your gym buddies waiting at gym.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course it's easy to go to gym, yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>when you you know, your babies woking up, or you're

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<v Speaker 1>had a broken sleep, or you got cramps you can't

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<v Speaker 1>cramps or different things, it's like in those moments, how

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<v Speaker 1>do you show up? And it's not always going to

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<v Speaker 1>the gym, but it's just like processing how you show

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<v Speaker 1>up anyway. So that's been what I'm diving deep into

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<v Speaker 1>lately and so bit like, I guess the opposite side

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<v Speaker 1>of that is I had a moment during the week

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<v Speaker 1>where I was going through some different stuff personally and

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<v Speaker 1>I was on the way to gym and I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>what I actually need right now is a beach walk.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I literally was in the car halfway to

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<v Speaker 1>gym and I like turned around and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I just need some me time. I need to actually

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<v Speaker 1>be with my thoughts and unpack this. So I don't

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<v Speaker 1>go during the day and kind of and I guess

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<v Speaker 1>it's also like you know, when you kind of just

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<v Speaker 1>put your feelings like under the covers, like you don't

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<v Speaker 1>deal with them. Yep. And that's something I notice I do,

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<v Speaker 1>is I don't deal with them, and then it's enough

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<v Speaker 1>time that I just kind of forget or get over it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And so I've been really trying to unpack when I

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<v Speaker 1>have the feelings and also like honor myself where I'm at.

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<v Speaker 1>So like in that moment, I was like, well, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going to go to gym today and just pretend

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<v Speaker 1>it's okay. I'm going to go to the beach process unpack,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I'm going to show up at work and

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I needed to do in that moment because

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<v Speaker 1>I had some serious stuff that I need to shop for,

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<v Speaker 1>work for.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like, do you see like the discernment then

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<v Speaker 1>of it's not always go to gym, it's like the opposite,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's still in integrity.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like honoring yourself and prioritizing your inner self.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's going to look different. Sometimes it is, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just go up and get to gym, and then

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes it's like, oh, I actually just need to feel

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<v Speaker 1>my feelings and process this and take some time for myself.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that, and I just, yeah, I'd never really

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<v Speaker 1>done that before. I'm usually just like, let's go to

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<v Speaker 1>gym and let's hide my feelings and just carry like

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<v Speaker 1>plow forward. Yeah, but I'm really proud of myself for

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<v Speaker 1>doing that. And so I want to with you guys.

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<v Speaker 3>That's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. Let's get into the episode.

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<v Speaker 3>You're gonna love this guys.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So I thought we'd tell the story of

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<v Speaker 2>Whitney wolf Herd, who is the founder of Bumble.

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<v Speaker 1>I fucking love Whitney.

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<v Speaker 2>She's amazing, isn't she.

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<v Speaker 1>She is so amazing. I'm so excited to this app.

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<v Speaker 2>Mean too, I loved researching this.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get straight into her.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's not much really known or covered about her upbringing,

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<v Speaker 2>so I thought we'd just jumped straight to when she

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<v Speaker 2>went to college, which is UNI here yep. So she

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<v Speaker 2>majored in international studies and actually started two businesses while

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<v Speaker 2>she was in college. The first was at the age

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<v Speaker 2>of twenty, where she sold bamboo tote bags to help

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<v Speaker 2>benefit areas that had been affected by the BP oil spill.

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<v Speaker 2>The bags actually received national press after celebrities like Nicole

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<v Speaker 2>Ritchie was seen.

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<v Speaker 1>Wearing them, which blows my mind.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, imagine being twenty and having Nicole Richie, where your

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<v Speaker 2>tote bag that you just started selling at UNI. And

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<v Speaker 2>then soon after that she started a second business with

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<v Speaker 2>a celebrity stylist called Tender Heart. So that was a

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<v Speaker 2>clothing line dedicated to raising awareness around human trafficking and

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<v Speaker 2>fair trade. And after graduating, she traveled to Southeast Asia

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<v Speaker 2>where she worked with orphanages. I know, what a gorgeous

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<v Speaker 2>human being, such a beautiful human and I love that,

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<v Speaker 2>Like helping others was such a central part of.

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<v Speaker 1>And you can see that from her whole story, like continuously, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why we love her.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So now we're gonna jump to twenty twelve, where

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<v Speaker 2>at the age of twenty two, she joined a startup

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<v Speaker 2>called hatch Lapse. So this project didn't actually go to

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<v Speaker 2>plan and ended up being somewhat abandoned, but it is

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<v Speaker 2>where she met Sean rad and Chris Gulsinski. I apologize

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<v Speaker 2>if my pronunciation is not good.

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<v Speaker 1>Who you're around Frances.

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<v Speaker 2>Who later became the development team for Tinder. So the

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<v Speaker 2>initial name of Tinder was actually Matchbox, Inc. And Whitney

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<v Speaker 2>was appointed the vice president of marketing and has now

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<v Speaker 2>been credited for coming up with the name Tinder and

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<v Speaker 2>actually fueling the apps popularity on college campuses and growing

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<v Speaker 2>its use base.

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<v Speaker 1>What is like Tinder?

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<v Speaker 2>Mean, Tinder is like the fire starter, so they call

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<v Speaker 2>it it's like a I don't know if it's dried leaves,

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<v Speaker 2>So it's what fuels a fire and helps it start.

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<v Speaker 1>So smart. Yeah, so clever.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think it went from Matchbox, but they had

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<v Speaker 2>the flame logo. So that's where she got the name

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<v Speaker 2>Tinder from. Okay, which was super clever. That's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I remember reading about she had so many interesting

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<v Speaker 1>like marketing techniques that were all around kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>gorilla marketing. Yeah, but it's like all around the campus.

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<v Speaker 1>But she just did things in such a unique way

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<v Speaker 1>that it was such a catalyst to Tinder doing so well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she's and so she actually ended up being I

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<v Speaker 2>think called a co founder, which was a big deal

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<v Speaker 2>because I don't think she was initially. Yeah, and so

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<v Speaker 2>the next part of this story that I will tell

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<v Speaker 2>has been alleged and not confirmed, but I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>important to provide some context as to what could have happened. So,

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<v Speaker 2>she started dating one of her fellow co founders, Justin,

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<v Speaker 2>and after the relationship sort of went a bit sour,

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<v Speaker 2>she ended up filing for sexual harassment against him, and

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<v Speaker 2>her lawsuit alleged that she'd been called a slut and

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<v Speaker 2>a liar after she and Justin had broken up in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty thirteen. It also stated that he became verbally controlling

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<v Speaker 2>and abusive in the months following the split, which is

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<v Speaker 2>really intense considering they worked together in such a close proximity.

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<v Speaker 2>So former employees of Tinder told Time magazine that Whitney

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<v Speaker 2>was told to shut up by executives and bring breakfast

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<v Speaker 2>to them and another source told the outlet that she'd

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<v Speaker 2>been supposedly spit at by someone at a party, a

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<v Speaker 2>work party.

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<v Speaker 1>That is so disgusting, It's.

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<v Speaker 2>Literally so gross, and I can't believe like a woman

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<v Speaker 2>was treated that way in such an environment. And obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>so that's the end of the allegations. Everything else after

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<v Speaker 2>this has been confirmed. So what we do definitely know

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<v Speaker 2>is that she left Tinder under questionable circumstances in twenty

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<v Speaker 2>fourteen after filing that sexual harassment lawsuit against the company,

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<v Speaker 2>and while she's legally unable to talk about what she

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<v Speaker 2>went through at Tinder, the lawsuit was settled for over

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<v Speaker 2>a million dollars without an admission of wrongdoing from Tinder's side,

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<v Speaker 2>and Sean rad one of the co founders, then stepped

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<v Speaker 2>down as Tinder CEO, and wolf Hurd did open up

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<v Speaker 2>about the experience in twenty fifteen in an interview with

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<v Speaker 2>Business Insider, saying I don't wish for anyone to go

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<v Speaker 2>through that, especially right as you're turning twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>So she was so incredibly young, when almost my age

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<v Speaker 2>when she entered the environment and left a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>years later when she was twenty five, and I can't

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<v Speaker 2>imagine having to go through that and deal with that.

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<v Speaker 2>And I admire her for really sticking to her guns

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<v Speaker 2>and staying true to herself and going, no, I'm worth

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<v Speaker 2>more than this, you can't treat me this way. I

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<v Speaker 2>also think it's so important to add of like she

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<v Speaker 2>started that sexual harassment so when she was still working there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I just think like that is you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so many people may have been like, it's just easier

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<v Speaker 1>if I don't make out like a fuss. Yeah, if

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<v Speaker 1>I don't ruffle any feathers. But sn you know, will

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<v Speaker 1>continue to see in her story she is someone who's like, no,

0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:25.040
<v Speaker 1>this is wrong, and I'm going to make a stand.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just think that is so brave, so brave,

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<v Speaker 1>so brave, and so incredible that she did do that

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<v Speaker 1>knowing that people were going to know and treat her differently,

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<v Speaker 1>but like, yeah, sticking to her guns. I love her

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<v Speaker 1>for that.

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<v Speaker 2>And so after she left Tinder, she actually started the

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<v Speaker 2>process of developing another app, which centered around women being

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<v Speaker 2>able to compliment each other, because she'd faced so much

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<v Speaker 2>harassment online and at work, and she'd also been unhappy

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<v Speaker 2>with how some women did get treated through Tinder and

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<v Speaker 2>how it easily allowed that to happen, and the app

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<v Speaker 2>was going to be called Mercy, which I think.

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<v Speaker 1>Is really cute. Mercy Yes, so sweet.

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<v Speaker 2>In that process, though, she was approached by Andre Andre,

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<v Speaker 2>an investor in businessman from London, and he suggested that

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<v Speaker 2>she actually start her own dating app, but after her experience,

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<v Speaker 2>she said, I'm really not interested in doing that unless

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<v Speaker 2>women can have complete control.

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<v Speaker 1>Unless it's on my term. Yeah, of how women are

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<v Speaker 1>treated exactly, which I just I love her.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, like imagine leaving Tinder and then having someone

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<v Speaker 2>approach you and being like, hey, like I'll fund a

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<v Speaker 2>dating app, or just being saying back to them, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>like that's so fine, but.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to do it my way. Yeah, but you're

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<v Speaker 1>giving me buddy, but it's my way, yeah, my way

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<v Speaker 1>in a way.

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<v Speaker 2>So in December twenty fourteen, quite a quick turnaround from

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<v Speaker 2>when she left Tinder, Bumble started being developed. And so

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<v Speaker 2>for anyone who may not know, Bumble is a dating

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<v Speaker 2>app where women get to make the first move, so

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<v Speaker 2>you're able to match with guys, but they can't actually

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<v Speaker 2>message you unless you message them first. So I also

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<v Speaker 2>really love how she almost reframed that narrative around women

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<v Speaker 2>messaging guys first from being needy.

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<v Speaker 1>I love. I love this so much. It's also like,

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<v Speaker 1>not only is she protecting women, because we all know

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<v Speaker 1>the world of men sending inappropriate messages or photos or

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<v Speaker 1>just I know as well, like it's a thing on

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<v Speaker 1>dating apps is like they'll just send a message literally

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<v Speaker 1>to everyone, and the same one and the same one. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just to like, you know, see if anyone's barden. Yeah,

0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:57.320
<v Speaker 1>see if there's a nibble. And I love that she

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<v Speaker 1>really created a safe place that's on the internet, which

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<v Speaker 1>is a bit unheard of on the Internet because it's

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<v Speaker 1>like wild West, Like she had so much intentionality around it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I love it. And it's like protecting women and

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<v Speaker 2>empowering them at the same time, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Which I love.

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<v Speaker 2>And so she'd actually initially planned to call Bumble Moxie,

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<v Speaker 2>but the app had been taken already. The name had

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<v Speaker 2>been taken already.

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<v Speaker 1>What's Moxie mean?

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<v Speaker 2>I think?

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<v Speaker 1>Why do I not know the meaning of anything this

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<v Speaker 1>whole series? What does it even mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Moxie means force of character, determination or nerve.

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<v Speaker 1>I really love that. Love that she said Moxie. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what a muxigout what a muxigout, Let's start using that

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<v Speaker 1>on the CUSP.

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<v Speaker 2>So by December twenty fifteen, the app had already reached

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen a million conversations and eighteen million matches, which is

0:18:01.440 --> 0:18:04.439
<v Speaker 2>insane in a year to think it grew that much.

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<v Speaker 2>And in an interview with Time. In an interview with

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<v Speaker 2>Time the night before her IPO so when her company

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<v Speaker 2>went public, Whitney said, honestly, my ambition comes from abusive relationships.

0:18:18.960 --> 0:18:23.439
<v Speaker 2>I've never had this healthy male relationship until I created it.

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<v Speaker 2>I engineered an ecosystem of healthy male relationships in my life.

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<v Speaker 2>Just what a quote. At the time of the IPO

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<v Speaker 2>Bumble was valued at over thirteen billion dollars. Still, the

0:18:39.640 --> 0:18:42.000
<v Speaker 2>money was never the end goal for her. It was

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<v Speaker 2>prioritizing women and their needs, desires, and aspirations. Whitney Wolf

0:18:47.480 --> 0:18:50.080
<v Speaker 2>heard is now the youngest woman to ever take a

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<v Speaker 2>company to IPO on Nastak, which is the American stock exchange,

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<v Speaker 2>and opened it with her one year old son on

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<v Speaker 2>her hip. On Twitter that day, she said, this is

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<v Speaker 2>only possible thanks to more the more than one point

0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:08.520
<v Speaker 2>seven billion first moves made by brave women on our

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<v Speaker 2>app and the pioneering women who paved the way for

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<v Speaker 2>us in the business world. To everyone who made today possible.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. Oh my god, I want to cry full

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<v Speaker 1>body shivers. She's just incredible. She's so incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>And what do you really love about her?

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<v Speaker 1>I think, like, first of all her because I remember

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<v Speaker 1>when I was doing some research too of her saying

0:19:35.160 --> 0:19:41.040
<v Speaker 1>she had really toxic relationships up like her whole early twenties. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know her even saying like this was because

0:19:44.560 --> 0:19:48.080
<v Speaker 1>of the abusive relationships. And I just love that she

0:19:48.440 --> 0:19:53.800
<v Speaker 1>turned her mess into her message and it was not

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<v Speaker 1>in spite because I don't want to use that word,

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<v Speaker 1>but she was like, no, this is this happened to me,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm going to use it as fuel to create

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<v Speaker 1>something better, to create this legacy that like leaves women

0:20:09.000 --> 0:20:13.280
<v Speaker 1>better off because I wasn't treated right, like the bravery

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<v Speaker 1>and just the I want to say audacity, but like

0:20:17.160 --> 0:20:20.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, audacity in a good way. Yeah, the audacity

0:20:20.440 --> 0:20:25.280
<v Speaker 1>to just like be treated like that continuously and still

0:20:25.440 --> 0:20:28.040
<v Speaker 1>show up of No, I'm still going to be a

0:20:28.080 --> 0:20:31.600
<v Speaker 1>good person. Yeah, And I'm actually going to create my

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<v Speaker 1>own boundaries and my own world where I get to

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<v Speaker 1>be treated differently.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly like that quote, she engineered an ecosystem around her

0:20:41.240 --> 0:20:43.960
<v Speaker 2>of men that treated her right. And I think that

0:20:43.960 --> 0:20:46.400
<v Speaker 2>that's almost such an expander in like, if you have

0:20:46.480 --> 0:20:50.480
<v Speaker 2>shitty people around you, you can change that. You do

0:20:50.640 --> 0:20:53.080
<v Speaker 2>have the power to change that. You just have to

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<v Speaker 2>be comfortable with letting them go in the first place,

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<v Speaker 2>and being uncomfortable, because I guaran I would bet anything

0:20:59.440 --> 0:21:02.520
<v Speaker 2>that when she filed that sexual harassment claim, whils still

0:21:02.560 --> 0:21:05.639
<v Speaker 2>working in that environment. It was not good, It was

0:21:05.680 --> 0:21:08.280
<v Speaker 2>not comfortable, and she needed to get out, but she

0:21:08.400 --> 0:21:11.040
<v Speaker 2>stuck it out so that she got out in the

0:21:11.080 --> 0:21:13.360
<v Speaker 2>best way for her. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it too, because sometimes you know, when we're

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<v Speaker 1>treated a certain way and we're conditioned to like get

0:21:23.040 --> 0:21:27.439
<v Speaker 1>treated like that continuously, we accept it. Yeah, And so

0:21:27.640 --> 0:21:31.680
<v Speaker 1>for her to literally be like, no, I'm not accepting

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<v Speaker 1>this and I'm actually going to make sure this doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>happen to other people is so incredible and so powerful,

0:21:39.640 --> 0:21:42.800
<v Speaker 1>so powerful, and exactly what you said, like, if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't like the people you're around, or if you don't

0:21:45.400 --> 0:21:49.480
<v Speaker 1>like how you're being treated, having that kind of I

0:21:49.760 --> 0:21:52.800
<v Speaker 1>get to actually change that, and it might be uncomfortable

0:21:53.320 --> 0:21:57.200
<v Speaker 1>for a bit, but it actually gets to turn out

0:21:57.280 --> 0:22:00.960
<v Speaker 1>amazing and in the long run be so worth it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like, I'm sure she obviously no one wants to

0:22:05.640 --> 0:22:08.600
<v Speaker 2>go through toxic or abusive relationships, but I'm sure she's

0:22:08.640 --> 0:22:11.040
<v Speaker 2>glad she learned what she did from it. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>almost like what you say where you can't mess it up, Like,

0:22:14.080 --> 0:22:15.959
<v Speaker 2>no matter what you do, you can't mess it up.

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<v Speaker 2>Another thing about her that I just admire so much

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<v Speaker 2>is how integral she was throughout everything she did, and

0:22:25.320 --> 0:22:29.800
<v Speaker 2>her value on supporting and protecting and empowering women was

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<v Speaker 2>just a constant theme. And if what she was doing

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<v Speaker 2>didn't fit that she left or she put her foot down,

0:22:38.080 --> 0:22:39.960
<v Speaker 2>like to that investment and she's like, sure, i'll do

0:22:40.000 --> 0:22:42.159
<v Speaker 2>a dating app with you, but it's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>on my terms. And my terms is that the females

0:22:44.960 --> 0:22:47.920
<v Speaker 2>are put first, the women are put first. And that

0:22:47.960 --> 0:22:51.440
<v Speaker 2>takes a lot of guts when she's quote unquote at

0:22:51.440 --> 0:22:55.919
<v Speaker 2>her lowest staff to leaving Tinder and doing a different

0:22:56.000 --> 0:23:00.159
<v Speaker 2>kind of startup that's maybe not working out, but to

0:23:00.200 --> 0:23:02.199
<v Speaker 2>still be so true to who you are and not

0:23:02.240 --> 0:23:05.280
<v Speaker 2>worry about the money and not worry about what society

0:23:05.359 --> 0:23:08.000
<v Speaker 2>is going to think of you, but she very much

0:23:08.000 --> 0:23:11.240
<v Speaker 2>prioritizes what she thinks of herself over what anyone else did.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that this has come up too, because that's

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<v Speaker 1>even something that I've been playing with a lot right now,

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<v Speaker 1>of the integrity of does your internal integrity match your

0:23:26.119 --> 0:23:31.119
<v Speaker 1>external reality? So does how you you know, want to

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<v Speaker 1>have boundaries or how you want to treat yourself and

0:23:33.320 --> 0:23:37.160
<v Speaker 1>how you want to treat others? Does that actually get

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<v Speaker 1>you know, is that actually a portrayal of what your

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<v Speaker 1>life is like?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>If that makes sense, because I think sometimes we think

0:23:45.680 --> 0:23:49.440
<v Speaker 1>we have these values, and we think we have these priorities,

0:23:49.480 --> 0:23:52.199
<v Speaker 1>and we think we you know, want life in a

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<v Speaker 1>certain way, and we really believe in something, but when

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<v Speaker 1>we actually look at our life, and I know I've

0:23:59.000 --> 0:24:01.640
<v Speaker 1>been saying this a lot and podcasts of like how

0:24:01.680 --> 0:24:04.960
<v Speaker 1>you do one thing is how you do everything? Being

0:24:05.080 --> 0:24:11.000
<v Speaker 1>really is what I'm wanting inside actually matching my reality

0:24:11.359 --> 0:24:14.359
<v Speaker 1>and how I'm doing life. And I love that, Like

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<v Speaker 1>integrity is such a huge theme in her story because

0:24:17.400 --> 0:24:22.120
<v Speaker 1>you can see she has used that as a compass

0:24:22.400 --> 0:24:28.000
<v Speaker 1>for every step and it's obviously hugely paid off, just

0:24:28.119 --> 0:24:33.760
<v Speaker 1>so beautiful because it didn't always like seem bright or

0:24:33.760 --> 0:24:37.280
<v Speaker 1>it didn't always look at like the right decision to

0:24:37.359 --> 0:24:42.120
<v Speaker 1>make outwardly, but she's like locked into her integrity, her

0:24:42.160 --> 0:24:45.320
<v Speaker 1>intuition and going, no, I need to do this for me,

0:24:46.119 --> 0:24:49.920
<v Speaker 1>and in the long run, obviously it's worked out fucking incredible.

0:24:50.920 --> 0:24:51.760
<v Speaker 3>Really really well.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that so much because I think so many

0:24:54.520 --> 0:24:59.240
<v Speaker 1>of us we can have this view of who we

0:24:59.320 --> 0:25:01.600
<v Speaker 1>are and how we see the world and how we

0:25:01.640 --> 0:25:04.439
<v Speaker 1>interact with people and just how we do life. But

0:25:04.480 --> 0:25:08.639
<v Speaker 1>it's like, if you got really honest, are you acting

0:25:08.840 --> 0:25:09.680
<v Speaker 1>in integrity?

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<v Speaker 2>I think where a lot of people might trip up

0:25:12.440 --> 0:25:15.480
<v Speaker 2>on that is you'll have these values that mean so

0:25:15.640 --> 0:25:19.360
<v Speaker 2>much to you, but it's not reflected in one your

0:25:19.359 --> 0:25:22.320
<v Speaker 2>external world, but also the people you surround yourself with,

0:25:22.680 --> 0:25:26.359
<v Speaker 2>because I noticed that, Like, you'll have friends or some

0:25:26.440 --> 0:25:28.960
<v Speaker 2>of my friends' friends, they'll be like, oh, I'm like this,

0:25:29.119 --> 0:25:31.040
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like that, But then they'll be friends with

0:25:31.119 --> 0:25:35.240
<v Speaker 2>maybe someone who's like politics is just a really easy

0:25:35.280 --> 0:25:37.960
<v Speaker 2>way to explain it, where they're like very eco conscious

0:25:37.960 --> 0:25:39.720
<v Speaker 2>and that sort of stuff, but they're friends with someone

0:25:39.760 --> 0:25:43.000
<v Speaker 2>who's maybe very right wing, who doesn't really care about

0:25:43.080 --> 0:25:46.360
<v Speaker 2>climate change, And this is just a very base example,

0:25:46.440 --> 0:25:48.600
<v Speaker 2>but they're like, oh, don't worry about them, like they're

0:25:48.640 --> 0:25:51.840
<v Speaker 2>still okay, Like it's fine, and I'm not saying that

0:25:51.880 --> 0:25:53.919
<v Speaker 2>you can't be friends with that person, but it's almost

0:25:54.000 --> 0:25:56.440
<v Speaker 2>just like how true to your values are you if

0:25:56.480 --> 0:25:59.600
<v Speaker 2>you're surrounding yourself or mixing in circles or maybe working

0:25:59.680 --> 0:26:03.000
<v Speaker 2>at a p place that doesn't value your values.

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<v Speaker 1>That is so powerful And that's so a lot of

0:26:07.760 --> 0:26:12.840
<v Speaker 1>people will be listening and being like, oh, it's uncomfortable,

0:26:12.880 --> 0:26:17.560
<v Speaker 1>it's just throw and shame. No. I love that, And

0:26:17.600 --> 0:26:20.119
<v Speaker 1>that's a really powerful question. And I think guys, like

0:26:20.520 --> 0:26:23.640
<v Speaker 1>in these episodes, we are asking you really strong questions,

0:26:23.800 --> 0:26:27.919
<v Speaker 1>and I really I don't want anyone to just notice

0:26:27.960 --> 0:26:32.520
<v Speaker 1>yourself if you're getting like defensive or you're arcing up,

0:26:32.680 --> 0:26:37.560
<v Speaker 1>because it's just about being curious. Yeah, I mean curious

0:26:37.680 --> 0:26:40.920
<v Speaker 1>curious about this. In the office, we do this thing

0:26:40.960 --> 0:26:44.600
<v Speaker 1>because my coach has been telling me, like, the best

0:26:44.720 --> 0:26:48.919
<v Speaker 1>frequency you can shift into is curiosity rather than you know,

0:26:49.080 --> 0:26:54.040
<v Speaker 1>shame or doubt or guilt. So like, anytime I got

0:26:54.080 --> 0:26:56.959
<v Speaker 1>because I tend to go to shame straight away. Anytime

0:26:57.440 --> 0:27:00.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm like about shame myself or think I'm wrong or

0:27:00.600 --> 0:27:02.360
<v Speaker 1>this and that, or think they're wrong. I go into

0:27:02.440 --> 0:27:05.840
<v Speaker 1>curiosity and I'm like, that's so interesting. What is this

0:27:06.000 --> 0:27:09.840
<v Speaker 1>bringing up inside me? So anything we say during you know,

0:27:09.920 --> 0:27:14.919
<v Speaker 1>this series especially, these are literally thought provoking episodes for

0:27:15.000 --> 0:27:18.919
<v Speaker 1>you guys to think, this is so interesting, Like is

0:27:18.960 --> 0:27:21.919
<v Speaker 1>there something here that comes up? So I love that

0:27:22.000 --> 0:27:24.760
<v Speaker 1>you said that a Tia, yeah, because even I was like, hmm,

0:27:26.960 --> 0:27:28.800
<v Speaker 1>it's so interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And I think like there'll always be an excuse

0:27:33.840 --> 0:27:35.560
<v Speaker 2>as to why you can't because you might have a

0:27:35.600 --> 0:27:38.159
<v Speaker 2>family member that disagrees with you, or a friend, or

0:27:38.240 --> 0:27:40.800
<v Speaker 2>you're working in a place where the values that you

0:27:40.840 --> 0:27:44.199
<v Speaker 2>hold true to yourself aren't really amplified in your workplace,

0:27:44.760 --> 0:27:48.440
<v Speaker 2>and it's uncomfortable to bring that up. And it's uncomfortable

0:27:48.480 --> 0:27:52.399
<v Speaker 2>to say to someone or something or anything that hey, like,

0:27:52.480 --> 0:27:56.399
<v Speaker 2>I'm actually gonna have to remove myself because I'm my

0:27:56.560 --> 0:28:00.399
<v Speaker 2>values are not being honored here, yeah, or I'm not

0:28:00.480 --> 0:28:04.919
<v Speaker 2>acting in integrity, and it's very uncomfortable to tell someone like, hey, like,

0:28:05.000 --> 0:28:08.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna have to keep my distance because like

0:28:08.320 --> 0:28:12.159
<v Speaker 2>your political beliefs really just don't align with what I believe,

0:28:12.400 --> 0:28:15.360
<v Speaker 2>or you're the way you treat others even though you're

0:28:15.440 --> 0:28:18.440
<v Speaker 2>nice to me. Everyone has that friend that's that's nice

0:28:18.440 --> 0:28:23.840
<v Speaker 2>to them but mean to other people. Oh my god. Yeah,

0:28:23.880 --> 0:28:26.320
<v Speaker 2>And it's just like, do you really like even though

0:28:26.320 --> 0:28:28.480
<v Speaker 2>they're nice to you, that's great, But do you want

0:28:28.880 --> 0:28:32.840
<v Speaker 2>that energy, that frequency, that person in your space if

0:28:32.880 --> 0:28:36.800
<v Speaker 2>they amplify that to others because it's always a reflection

0:28:36.880 --> 0:28:37.680
<v Speaker 2>of you in the end.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that's that's so incredible, And that's such a

0:28:41.480 --> 0:28:44.680
<v Speaker 1>good you know, it's such a good question to ask

0:28:44.720 --> 0:28:47.480
<v Speaker 1>yourself and just sit with and just be like, this

0:28:47.560 --> 0:28:52.360
<v Speaker 1>is so interesting of am I actually being integral with

0:28:52.600 --> 0:28:55.480
<v Speaker 1>the things I do or do? I pick and choose

0:28:55.640 --> 0:28:59.600
<v Speaker 1>what's easiest and more comfortable for me and then call

0:28:59.640 --> 0:29:04.440
<v Speaker 1>myself integral. I feel like we're all guilty up there,

0:29:04.680 --> 0:29:11.080
<v Speaker 1>like I need to go under an off. So integrity

0:29:11.560 --> 0:29:15.959
<v Speaker 1>is just that. Yeah, it's amazing. I Also, my favorite

0:29:16.000 --> 0:29:20.840
<v Speaker 1>thing in Whitney's story is just the pushing back on

0:29:20.960 --> 0:29:24.480
<v Speaker 1>society norms, because even when she was in college and

0:29:24.600 --> 0:29:27.640
<v Speaker 1>like you know, first started Tinder and then you know,

0:29:27.720 --> 0:29:31.800
<v Speaker 1>with bumble and stuff. I even remember hearing about bumble

0:29:32.040 --> 0:29:35.240
<v Speaker 1>and obviously you know, this was what ten norm so

0:29:35.400 --> 0:29:40.760
<v Speaker 1>years ago and hearing about it and thinking so so

0:29:40.920 --> 0:29:44.520
<v Speaker 1>interesting because all I had heard about dating apps was

0:29:44.600 --> 0:29:45.920
<v Speaker 1>just like gross things.

0:29:46.160 --> 0:29:46.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:29:46.480 --> 0:29:49.120
<v Speaker 1>So I even remember thinking, oh my god, that's so interesting,

0:29:49.160 --> 0:29:52.920
<v Speaker 1>that's so different. I do admire and love that. Yeah,

0:29:52.960 --> 0:29:57.840
<v Speaker 1>And I just love that she literally did something that

0:29:58.120 --> 0:30:02.600
<v Speaker 1>was so opposite to what was happening at the moment,

0:30:03.480 --> 0:30:07.840
<v Speaker 1>and even like I very much resonate with Naked Harvest

0:30:08.120 --> 0:30:14.120
<v Speaker 1>and bringing like supplements to the industry that were female focus. Yes,

0:30:14.160 --> 0:30:16.440
<v Speaker 1>because you know, like when we started Naked Haus, like

0:30:16.560 --> 0:30:20.880
<v Speaker 1>females just weren't a theme. Like it was either supplements

0:30:20.920 --> 0:30:27.200
<v Speaker 1>that were for juicy males who you know, had the

0:30:27.280 --> 0:30:31.680
<v Speaker 1>muscles and the lightning bolts and the five hundred tubs

0:30:31.720 --> 0:30:34.560
<v Speaker 1>with red then five hundred meg of caffeine that would

0:30:34.600 --> 0:30:38.160
<v Speaker 1>like fuck you up, or it was the natural supplements,

0:30:38.200 --> 0:30:41.560
<v Speaker 1>but they were like so boring looking and they tasted

0:30:41.680 --> 0:30:42.120
<v Speaker 1>like dirt.

0:30:42.200 --> 0:30:42.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:30:43.240 --> 0:30:47.120
<v Speaker 1>I remember thinking what is happening right now and seeing

0:30:47.160 --> 0:30:50.080
<v Speaker 1>such a gap in the market of No, I want

0:30:50.120 --> 0:30:52.560
<v Speaker 1>supplements that taste good. I want them to be natural,

0:30:52.600 --> 0:30:54.840
<v Speaker 1>I want them to be clean, and I also fucking

0:30:54.880 --> 0:30:57.200
<v Speaker 1>want them to be pretty. Yeah, and I want them

0:30:57.240 --> 0:30:59.600
<v Speaker 1>to be for a female because I'm so sick of

0:30:59.680 --> 0:31:02.720
<v Speaker 1>having to take half serves because you haven't thought about me.

0:31:03.200 --> 0:31:05.320
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Oh my gosh, so true.

0:31:05.440 --> 0:31:08.440
<v Speaker 1>And I remember having that thought, and then you know,

0:31:08.560 --> 0:31:11.880
<v Speaker 1>obviously Naked Harvest has been able to carve a spot

0:31:11.920 --> 0:31:14.040
<v Speaker 1>in the industry, and I truly believe that has so

0:31:14.160 --> 0:31:17.080
<v Speaker 1>much to do with how we've been able to grow fast.

0:31:17.160 --> 0:31:20.240
<v Speaker 1>So it's like even thinking about, you know, in your

0:31:20.320 --> 0:31:23.080
<v Speaker 1>life or your business, of like where are you just

0:31:23.240 --> 0:31:27.920
<v Speaker 1>following the grain and it doesn't actually serve you. Yeah,

0:31:27.960 --> 0:31:30.520
<v Speaker 1>And this I've had a huge journey with this and

0:31:30.560 --> 0:31:34.960
<v Speaker 1>being a working mum and being really confused about how

0:31:35.000 --> 0:31:37.920
<v Speaker 1>I should do life, how I should feel. And it

0:31:38.040 --> 0:31:42.040
<v Speaker 1>wasn't until I took my power back and I was like, wait,

0:31:42.200 --> 0:31:47.000
<v Speaker 1>I actually get to decide what my norm is and

0:31:47.040 --> 0:31:49.080
<v Speaker 1>what my narrative is going to be.

0:31:49.720 --> 0:31:49.960
<v Speaker 2>Yes.

0:31:50.440 --> 0:31:55.600
<v Speaker 1>And I think sometimes we give that away and we think, sure,

0:31:55.640 --> 0:31:57.520
<v Speaker 1>oh no, but everyone does it this way, so I

0:31:57.600 --> 0:31:59.640
<v Speaker 1>have to do it this way. But I'm fucking really

0:32:00.160 --> 0:32:00.600
<v Speaker 1>about it.

0:32:01.320 --> 0:32:02.280
<v Speaker 2>And it's so true.

0:32:02.400 --> 0:32:05.160
<v Speaker 1>And even like we're just conditioned, like there would be

0:32:05.240 --> 0:32:09.600
<v Speaker 1>things that you haven't even thought about doing differently because

0:32:09.640 --> 0:32:12.320
<v Speaker 1>you're just so conditioned that that's the way we do

0:32:12.400 --> 0:32:14.120
<v Speaker 1>things so true.

0:32:15.080 --> 0:32:18.719
<v Speaker 2>I think for me that was definitely like you go

0:32:18.840 --> 0:32:20.920
<v Speaker 2>to school, you go to UNI, you.

0:32:20.880 --> 0:32:23.360
<v Speaker 1>Get a job, Yeah, that's your life, yeap.

0:32:23.440 --> 0:32:26.680
<v Speaker 2>And like working where I've worked is just sort of

0:32:26.840 --> 0:32:29.000
<v Speaker 2>opened my mind to like that's not your life, Like

0:32:29.040 --> 0:32:31.480
<v Speaker 2>that doesn't have to be your life if it doesn't

0:32:31.560 --> 0:32:35.400
<v Speaker 2>feel right. And people just being more open to following

0:32:35.440 --> 0:32:40.400
<v Speaker 2>their intuition over what society tells them, and just getting

0:32:40.440 --> 0:32:44.240
<v Speaker 2>really clear on like your big life, your goals, your priorities,

0:32:44.440 --> 0:32:48.560
<v Speaker 2>and that's something that Whitney really was so clear on

0:32:48.640 --> 0:32:51.560
<v Speaker 2>from such a young age, which blows my mind. I

0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:54.720
<v Speaker 2>love it and it just has not faulted. And she's

0:32:54.840 --> 0:32:57.479
<v Speaker 2>used that as like you said, the measuring stick the

0:32:57.520 --> 0:32:59.880
<v Speaker 2>compass for where she wants to go, and that's what

0:33:00.120 --> 0:33:03.719
<v Speaker 2>propelled her so fast. And I think for me, like

0:33:03.880 --> 0:33:05.520
<v Speaker 2>I really got clear on that and I'll do it

0:33:05.520 --> 0:33:08.040
<v Speaker 2>for you if you just love of course in Jaen, Yeah,

0:33:08.080 --> 0:33:10.240
<v Speaker 2>and I know so many other people did, and like

0:33:10.320 --> 0:33:14.000
<v Speaker 2>getting into that practice of like constantly auditing and checking

0:33:14.040 --> 0:33:16.800
<v Speaker 2>and checking in with your values, with who you are,

0:33:16.880 --> 0:33:20.280
<v Speaker 2>with your buckets, your priorities. Are you happy where you

0:33:20.320 --> 0:33:22.040
<v Speaker 2>are or do you need to make a shift and

0:33:22.080 --> 0:33:23.800
<v Speaker 2>not just waiting for like a new week or a

0:33:23.840 --> 0:33:27.200
<v Speaker 2>new year or anything like that. Like it's you can

0:33:27.240 --> 0:33:29.880
<v Speaker 2>do it at any time and it's important and the

0:33:29.960 --> 0:33:30.600
<v Speaker 2>earlier you do.

0:33:30.560 --> 0:33:33.480
<v Speaker 1>It the better. I love that so much. Yeah, and

0:33:33.520 --> 0:33:36.080
<v Speaker 1>that's even something like just going back to the working

0:33:36.160 --> 0:33:40.000
<v Speaker 1>month thing. Ps. I fucking love that she had her

0:33:40.040 --> 0:33:42.600
<v Speaker 1>one year old, I know, and she was just like,

0:33:42.680 --> 0:33:47.479
<v Speaker 1>I'm a bossan. Yeah, that was so iconic. Literally, I

0:33:47.520 --> 0:33:49.880
<v Speaker 1>hope that we'll obviously put that in the trailer because

0:33:49.880 --> 0:33:52.760
<v Speaker 1>that was so iconic. That's even something I've thought about

0:33:52.800 --> 0:33:55.280
<v Speaker 1>because in these episodes, we really want you guys to

0:33:55.320 --> 0:33:59.400
<v Speaker 1>think about like what legacy are you leaving behind? And

0:33:59.480 --> 0:34:03.800
<v Speaker 1>obviously the women we're talking about like they're literally leaving

0:34:03.840 --> 0:34:08.160
<v Speaker 1>a legacy that people are talking about globally, but even

0:34:08.360 --> 0:34:12.080
<v Speaker 1>just like, for example, something I think about is with

0:34:12.239 --> 0:34:16.160
<v Speaker 1>my legacy of what's Ivy going to talk about to

0:34:16.320 --> 0:34:21.120
<v Speaker 1>her friends about her mum? Do you mean your legacy

0:34:21.200 --> 0:34:24.520
<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean how you're going to make a news or

0:34:24.680 --> 0:34:28.319
<v Speaker 1>impact the most amount of people, but just even the

0:34:28.360 --> 0:34:30.760
<v Speaker 1>people in your life. It can just be your immediate

0:34:30.800 --> 0:34:34.799
<v Speaker 1>family or your intimate family, and it's like, what are

0:34:34.840 --> 0:34:38.439
<v Speaker 1>they going to say about you and how you led

0:34:38.680 --> 0:34:43.440
<v Speaker 1>your life. Did you just do what everyone else is

0:34:43.480 --> 0:34:46.880
<v Speaker 1>doing or did you go against the grain because you

0:34:47.000 --> 0:34:51.399
<v Speaker 1>listen to your intuition and you trusted your intuition and

0:34:51.800 --> 0:34:55.839
<v Speaker 1>led with integrity. Yeah, because you can like you can

0:34:56.200 --> 0:35:00.960
<v Speaker 1>feel that, everyone around you can feel that, and it's

0:35:01.040 --> 0:35:04.879
<v Speaker 1>like it's not necessarily always about doing the big thing.

0:35:05.640 --> 0:35:09.040
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes it's about the small things, but how impactful they

0:35:09.120 --> 0:35:09.680
<v Speaker 1>actually are.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Oh my gosh, I love that so much. I

0:35:13.480 --> 0:35:15.560
<v Speaker 2>think we might need to give the listeners of this

0:35:15.640 --> 0:35:17.840
<v Speaker 2>episode a little do It for your Future Self course.

0:35:19.280 --> 0:35:22.120
<v Speaker 2>Of course. I think we should, just because I think

0:35:23.040 --> 0:35:25.040
<v Speaker 2>that course really helped me to get clear on that.

0:35:25.160 --> 0:35:29.560
<v Speaker 1>And it's so happy that you literally work for R

0:35:29.560 --> 0:35:32.920
<v Speaker 1>and C and you do like that was life changing.

0:35:33.320 --> 0:35:34.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, it's amazing.

0:35:35.200 --> 0:35:38.880
<v Speaker 1>No, I loved it so much too. And okay, like,

0:35:39.120 --> 0:35:41.960
<v Speaker 1>do you want to just do a random Let's okay, guys,

0:35:42.160 --> 0:35:44.800
<v Speaker 1>use the code Bumble and we'll give you an amazing

0:35:44.880 --> 0:35:46.759
<v Speaker 1>discount on the do it for your future self if

0:35:46.800 --> 0:35:47.880
<v Speaker 1>you do want to get clear.

0:35:48.440 --> 0:35:51.160
<v Speaker 2>That's such a good idea and I think just ps,

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<v Speaker 2>this episode was not sponsored by Bumble.

0:35:54.800 --> 0:35:58.160
<v Speaker 1>But please come and sponsor a series. That would be amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>We'd love to.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi love it well, this episode was amazing to chat

0:36:05.120 --> 0:36:07.600
<v Speaker 1>about it. I hope you guys enjoyed it. Thank you

0:36:07.640 --> 0:36:11.040
<v Speaker 1>so much to Tear for researching and telling us all

0:36:11.160 --> 0:36:16.280
<v Speaker 1>about the amazing Whitney. This was superb Bye everybody, Thank

0:36:16.320 --> 0:36:19.640
<v Speaker 1>you so much for listening to another episode of the

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