WEBVTT - He's Just Not That Into You 0:00:02.279 --> 0:00:06.080 Hi, and welcome to Outspoken. You're joined by journalists Amy 0:00:06.240 --> 0:00:10.240 Sophie and Kate Torbo. Now today we've decided to dub 0:00:10.360 --> 0:00:13.560 our episode He's just not that into You. So today 0:00:13.600 --> 0:00:16.000 we're going to dissect what we've all learned about the 0:00:16.079 --> 0:00:19.479 dating world now we're thirty and hopefully given insight into 0:00:19.480 --> 0:00:22.480 how you can find a nice man after putting up 0:00:22.480 --> 0:00:24.800 with some dickheads. And I'm sure we can all relate 0:00:24.840 --> 0:00:27.159 to that. Can't be putting up with dickheads, especially you, 0:00:27.280 --> 0:00:31.680 Kate very much so not currently obviously in the past. 0:00:32.080 --> 0:00:34.680 So we're going to be dissecting a few topics, and 0:00:34.720 --> 0:00:37.360 of course we're going to share so some pretty embarrassing 0:00:37.440 --> 0:00:40.560 stories along the way. I thought we should first start 0:00:40.600 --> 0:00:43.040 off by addressing some signs that maybe he's just not 0:00:43.120 --> 0:00:45.680 that into you. I feel like, when you're twenty, you 0:00:45.720 --> 0:00:47.879 start your Google all these things, or why doesn't he 0:00:48.080 --> 0:00:50.040 like me? What should I do? So? If you're just 0:00:50.080 --> 0:00:53.440 opening up about her past Google, I feel like everyone 0:00:53.479 --> 0:00:57.120 does it, though, Well, what are some of these signs? Well, 0:00:57.200 --> 0:00:59.440 I think a major one that I've learned along the 0:00:59.440 --> 0:01:04.200 way is if you're the one initiating all of the dates. Yeah, 0:01:04.240 --> 0:01:08.160 definitely been there, done that many times. It's the worst 0:01:08.160 --> 0:01:11.800 feeling because I feel like they initiate the first date 0:01:12.080 --> 0:01:14.639 and then you know, you have a few good dates, 0:01:15.120 --> 0:01:17.120 and then this always seems to happen to me. I'm 0:01:17.160 --> 0:01:19.520 then the one sort of setting up the dates and 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:22.400 sort of having to be on their back about it. 0:01:22.560 --> 0:01:24.520 I think that's quite common though. I've seen a lot 0:01:24.600 --> 0:01:26.839 of people and heard a lot of people talking about 0:01:26.880 --> 0:01:29.320 how they'll have this amazing date and then the guy 0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:31.560 will just basically ghost them or they will have to 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:33.760 do all of the chasing. Do you guys think it's 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:35.959 a power play in the early you know, in the 0:01:35.959 --> 0:01:38.200 start of a relationship, or is it just someone that's 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:40.240 not into you. At the time I thought it was, 0:01:40.280 --> 0:01:42.000 I thought, oh, you know, this is just the normal 0:01:42.040 --> 0:01:44.039 back and forth, because it's happened quite a bit to me. 0:01:44.480 --> 0:01:47.440 But now that I'm actually in a good relationship and 0:01:47.520 --> 0:01:51.120 that shit didn't go on at the start, I actually 0:01:51.120 --> 0:01:53.560 do think it's a sign that the person isn't into you, 0:01:53.800 --> 0:01:55.760 or that they've got other options and you're not very 0:01:55.840 --> 0:01:58.000 high up on those options. Yeah, that's the thing. If 0:01:58.080 --> 0:02:00.680 a man really likes you, he's got going to want 0:02:00.720 --> 0:02:02.440 to see you all the time. He's going to be 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:05.120 wanting to come up with nice dates and things to do. 0:02:05.200 --> 0:02:07.240 And at the time, if you do like someone, you 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:09.280 do want to believe that there must be a reason 0:02:09.280 --> 0:02:12.560 that they're always busy, that you know, maybe they don't 0:02:12.600 --> 0:02:16.360 have any date ideas. It's a pretty obvious sign, you know, 0:02:16.400 --> 0:02:19.399 when they go like hours and hours without replying, because 0:02:19.480 --> 0:02:21.960 let's be honest, everyone's got their phone super glued to 0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:25.520 their hands. Yeah, what are the other signs? Well, I 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:28.480 mean this seems pretty obvious, but maybe not when you're twenty. 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:31.880 That if he's not interested in things you do or like, 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:34.760 and quite frankly, the only thing he's interested in his sex, 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:38.560 it's a pretty big sign that he is only looking 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:40.920 for one thing. What else have we got? Well, another 0:02:40.960 --> 0:02:43.720 major sign, and it does sound pretty obvious, is that 0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:47.480 he's never done anything nice for you whatsoever. Sometime my 0:02:47.520 --> 0:02:51.040 whole like four to five year relationship with my ex boyfriend, 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:53.399 and I think it is hard when maybe you don't 0:02:53.400 --> 0:02:56.360 feel great about yourself, you don't expect these things. I 0:02:56.400 --> 0:02:59.640 think as you grow older you do expect more out 0:02:59.680 --> 0:03:01.920 of our liationship and you just think someone meeting up 0:03:02.160 --> 0:03:04.000 with you is enough. Well, I'm going to put it 0:03:04.040 --> 0:03:07.440 out there. It's slightly embarrassing. But at thirty years of age, 0:03:07.560 --> 0:03:10.040 well actually I was twenty nine. I received my first 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:13.480 and only ever Valentine's Day flowers from my now boyfriend. 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:18.639 And that is despite having a boyfriend for five years. Yeah, yeah, 0:03:19.000 --> 0:03:22.480 he didn't believe in Valentine's Day. I don't know, and 0:03:22.520 --> 0:03:25.560 it's just a dickhead. And you know, this guy also 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:29.320 forgot my birthday and then pretty big one, and then 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:31.480 he was in we were doing long distance at the time. 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:34.480 He was in Melbourne, and then he decided that he 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:36.600 would come over for my birthday party, which was the 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:39.600 week after my birthday, and I chipped in for the 0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:42.360 flights for him to come across. And he didn't bring 0:03:42.400 --> 0:03:44.520 me a birthday president and said, oh me coming across 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:47.920 was your birthday present, then proceeded to ruin my birthday. 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:51.440 Now I'm not party. He also never gave you a compliment? 0:03:51.480 --> 0:03:54.280 Did he like? Not one? But do you think that's 0:03:54.280 --> 0:03:57.320 what made you like him more? The fact that sometimes 0:03:57.360 --> 0:03:59.880 when you were together, he you know, when he was 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:04.720 slightly nice. It felt so good to get that reassurance 0:04:04.840 --> 0:04:06.960 or you know, or not in reassurance, but for him 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:09.320 to actually be nice because he was so awful most 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:12.600 of the time. Yeah, I suppose it's hard to reflect 0:04:12.720 --> 0:04:15.680 on because you know, it's sort of is pretty an 0:04:15.680 --> 0:04:17.920 indictment of you when you're talking about these things that 0:04:17.960 --> 0:04:19.400 you used to put up with. But he was my 0:04:19.520 --> 0:04:22.000 first boyfriend, and this was coming off the back of, 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:24.760 you know, not a great time at high school, confidence 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:28.159 being pretty low, so it really was a case of yeah, 0:04:28.240 --> 0:04:32.040 I hadn't experienced anything different, so it was kind of like, oh, 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:34.080 you know, I can change him, and you know, I'll 0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:37.040 get this tiny, little nice bit of him and then 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:38.800 it just gets taken away. So I think it was 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:43.719 more of a toxic continuous Well that's the thing as well, 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:47.920 because in our society, it seems quite unusual, especially when 0:04:47.920 --> 0:04:50.240 you're in your early twenties, for men to actually want 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:52.200 to be in a relationship, and I think a lot 0:04:52.240 --> 0:04:55.400 of them display that kind of player behavior. So it 0:04:55.440 --> 0:04:58.200 does make you feel special when they've chosen to spend 0:04:58.240 --> 0:05:00.720 their time with you, and I feel you just get 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:03.000 used to being treated that way because that's all you've 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:05.720 ever known. I suppose one big red flag that I 0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:09.280 picked up on was the fact that my ex boyfriend 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:12.279 had such a reluctancy to call me his girlfriend, Like 0:05:12.360 --> 0:05:15.039 it literally took I don't even know what was it, 0:05:15.120 --> 0:05:18.080 like two years again, it's an indictmond on me. But 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:19.800 and do you know what, I've noticed that on a 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:23.080 lot of reality shows that some of these stunning people 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:24.960 will go on and they'll say, oh, I've never had 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:27.400 a boyfriend or a girlfriend before, and people look at 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:30.320 them like they're weird. But I feel like, because people 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:32.240 are in that mindset where they just want to be 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:35.520 players and not be not settled down, that it is 0:05:35.640 --> 0:05:38.560 rare to find a boyfriend that wants more. I think, 0:05:38.600 --> 0:05:40.760 as Leanne from Love Island put it, she's been in 0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:44.719 lots of situationships, but not actual relationships. And it's so 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:47.720 true because you can date these people for so long 0:05:47.760 --> 0:05:50.960 and there's just like no label, you know, you just 0:05:51.040 --> 0:05:53.680 go with the flow and you don't want to actually ask, 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:55.640 Like it's such an awkward thing to be, like, oh, 0:05:55.720 --> 0:05:58.760 I think what we like boyfriend and girlfriend. It's almost 0:05:58.800 --> 0:06:01.360 like a proposal these day. Asking someone to be your 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:04.720 Girlfriend's so funny because my now boyfriend brand and he 0:06:04.760 --> 0:06:07.159 didn't realize that he had to ask me to be 0:06:07.160 --> 0:06:11.320 his girlfriend, like that's a thing. Hey, Well, I said 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:14.880 to him, Well, we had the discussion of what we were, 0:06:14.960 --> 0:06:17.479 and he's like, oh, I automatically assumed that I was 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:20.160 your boyfriend because he'd been hanging out for a few weeks. Look, 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:23.200 that was shocking for me, because, yeah, your situation was 0:06:23.200 --> 0:06:26.240 different because you literally became boyfriend and girlfriend after the 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:29.359 first date, really, which is so unusual. It was after 0:06:29.400 --> 0:06:32.920 a few weeks, but that had been that came off 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:35.960 the back of dating someone who for three months didn't 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:38.120 want to call me their girlfriend or make any sort 0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:41.159 of title, and then he had some elaborate you know, 0:06:41.240 --> 0:06:43.000 brought me this bunch of flowers to ask me to 0:06:43.000 --> 0:06:45.000 be his girlfriend. So I don't know, I mean, in 0:06:45.000 --> 0:06:48.000 your previous relationship. Yeah, but isn't I feel like it's 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:52.640 just an excuse to talk to other girls, and without 0:06:52.680 --> 0:06:54.680 putting a label on it, to be fair, I think 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:57.520 it's different if you've known the person, as in Sophie 0:06:57.560 --> 0:07:00.400 previously was sort of in a friend sort of she 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:02.640 knew her boyfriend. Should we put it? Should we have 0:07:02.680 --> 0:07:05.720 we explained how Sophie met No, I don't think so 0:07:05.720 --> 0:07:09.640 so funny enough, Brandon used to be my intern when 0:07:09.680 --> 0:07:13.360 I was working at the Thunderbirds and he we've all 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:15.960 joke that Sophie's a cougar. So he's five years younger. 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:18.800 He's four and a half. Oh oh my god, he is. 0:07:19.080 --> 0:07:21.480 Wait so you're wait, but you're turning thirty one and 0:07:21.520 --> 0:07:24.880 he's currently twenty six twenty six Yeah, his birthdays in 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:28.680 October what so okay, sorry, four and a half years 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:35.440 younger anyway, So I was also premature straws anyway. Anyway, 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:38.840 So yeah, when I was a comms manager the Thunderbired's 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:40.800 Brandon was my intern, and he went on to get 0:07:40.800 --> 0:07:43.600 a full time job and then we moved actually and 0:07:43.640 --> 0:07:46.800 worked together full time for another what three years in 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:50.200 total at yes, thirty six six eight was literally his 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:53.720 work wife, and then Sophie his not wife. I had 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:58.240 a different work husband. Yeah, but anyway, anyway, so yeah, 0:07:58.240 --> 0:08:00.720 it's quite funny. So Brandon one day was like he 0:08:00.760 --> 0:08:04.280 saw Sophie at a Thunderbirds game and was like, Oh, 0:08:04.320 --> 0:08:06.960 your sister's hot, and like we're obviously because we're identical. 0:08:07.040 --> 0:08:08.480 I was like, this is a bit all good. I 0:08:08.520 --> 0:08:11.679 was like, yeah, anyway, So he literally from the moment 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:14.360 he saw Sophie at the game had eyes only for 0:08:14.440 --> 0:08:16.880 her and did tell me that when he first saw 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:19.960 me at the stadium that he fell in love with me. 0:08:20.040 --> 0:08:23.160 Then I'm glad. Can I just add it on? I 0:08:23.200 --> 0:08:25.160 thought it was love at first sight? Can I at him? 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:29.480 I'm highly offended because I met Brandon before Sophie as 0:08:29.560 --> 0:08:32.840 your sister, and we hung out and we actually had 0:08:32.880 --> 0:08:35.240 a lot in common, as in, we all love video stuff. 0:08:35.280 --> 0:08:37.880 I wasn't interested at all, but I love that. I 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:41.880 love that. No, I was interested, but I wasn't interested 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:44.000 at all. But you know, it worked out well that 0:08:44.000 --> 0:08:46.160 he was interested Sophie. He never said any of that 0:08:46.160 --> 0:08:48.640 stuff about me. Well, I copped it so much at 0:08:48.679 --> 0:08:51.640 work because everyone just thinks it was so funny that, like, 0:08:51.720 --> 0:08:55.719 Brandon was working with me full time but then dating Sophie, 0:08:55.920 --> 0:08:57.360 And there were so many times when I had to 0:08:57.360 --> 0:09:00.920 be like, look, we're not dating he's dating my sister. 0:09:01.160 --> 0:09:04.160 I think from there, so you should explain your first 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:07.000 date with Brandon. And we've been talking for a few weeks, 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:10.560 and it was kind of awkward because he had told 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:14.760 Kate a lot about his ex girlfriend and he had 0:09:14.800 --> 0:09:17.960 been with this girl for four years and basically she 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:22.680 kind of she dumped him over Facebook. Over Facebook, yep. 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:24.920 I mean they were pretty young at the time, so 0:09:25.040 --> 0:09:27.320 there are girls out there that are obviously really mean 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:29.480 to boys as well. Yeah, so she led him on 0:09:29.600 --> 0:09:31.679 for a few months that you know, maybe she'd want 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:34.200 to get back with him, and then she invited him 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:37.600 to her house and to tell him that she had 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:40.400 a new boyfriend. So but this was while she was 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:43.720 like kind of dating him again. Well I'm not really. 0:09:43.720 --> 0:09:46.520 They've kind of been talking on and off anyway, and 0:09:46.920 --> 0:09:50.160 he backed that up by telling her that he was engaged. 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:53.000 I told him that I don't think she ever would 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:56.520 have believed that. Well, the best bit was this got 0:09:56.559 --> 0:09:59.040 really crazy. So when Brandon and I were working together, 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:01.520 we had to go down to the airport and there 0:10:01.520 --> 0:10:05.040 were some Thunderbirds international players that were arriving in Adelaide 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:06.920 was like eight o'clock at night, so we had to 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:09.960 film them arriving and interview them. And the funniest thing 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:13.160 has happened. We're standing at the international gate and all 0:10:13.160 --> 0:10:18.520 of a sudden, Brandon's ex girlfriend is getting off a 0:10:18.559 --> 0:10:21.360 flight from Europe, and Brandon's like oh my god. And 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:24.080 at the same time, obviously, these two Thunderbirds players are 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:26.560 walking off, so Brandon's trying to film and the ex 0:10:26.600 --> 0:10:29.320 girlfriend walks straight up and tries to hug him, and 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:31.800 I was like, keep bolming, keep helming. So he has 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:35.240 to shrug this girl off and she's probably thinking, oh, 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:37.800 he's come to see me, like maybe he wants to 0:10:37.800 --> 0:10:40.439 get back with me. And then the funniest thing was 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:42.319 he then had to go talk because her parents are there, 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:44.880 go talk to them, and then he came back over 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:47.520 to me and my friend Adam, and as he's walking up, 0:10:48.080 --> 0:10:50.360 he puts his arm around my shoulder and goes, just 0:10:50.400 --> 0:10:53.000 don't do anything, keep walking. So he told them that 0:10:53.160 --> 0:10:56.079 I was his fiance. And it's so funny because we've 0:10:56.120 --> 0:10:58.880 got this like love hate brother sister relationship where like 0:10:58.920 --> 0:11:01.760 we don't touch it obviously at all, like we just 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:03.760 don't want it to be near each other. And I 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:06.880 was like, get off me, and it was just it 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:08.800 was just like a TV show, like you couldn't even 0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:10.840 come up with this shit. Well that night, we'd only 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:13.000 been talking at this stage, and he messages me to say, 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:16.520 you're my fiance now. So we've had we had this 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:19.280 on running joke that I was the girl, even though 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:22.319 it was Kate who he'd been now like engaged to whatever, 0:11:22.400 --> 0:11:24.400 So if he already was a bit full on at 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:28.360 that stage when we started speaking and anyway, he told 0:11:28.400 --> 0:11:30.439 me he was over in Bali, and I thought, oh, 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:32.319 he's in Bali, you probably won't speak to me much. 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:35.080 Spoke to me twenty four to seven and he told 0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:38.280 me that he had three tiers of dates that he 0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:41.280 takes girls on. And it's pretty funny because we went 0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:44.079 to read these messages back on our anniversary and we 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:47.480 were just both like cringing, So you have to scroll 0:11:47.559 --> 0:11:49.560 pack a fuck Fairwell, I was gonna say, I remember 0:11:49.679 --> 0:11:51.920 after like when you guys have been dating for a while, 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:54.960 going out for a while. Literally his date was just 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:59.040 like sitting and eating food in this room. Tears food, 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:02.800 he did, What food is that? He did say there 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:04.800 were three level levels of dates. I had to go 0:12:04.880 --> 0:12:08.720 back to find them. He said, one was chilled. Then 0:12:08.760 --> 0:12:11.760 that's that is that like Netflix and chill? He said, 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:14.679 Shield is like your average movie night, not bad? Is 0:12:14.720 --> 0:12:18.360 that what you do every minut And his second one 0:12:18.440 --> 0:12:20.559 is kind of like a dessert night and a nice 0:12:20.640 --> 0:12:24.120 walk and whatnot, and then the other what not so 0:12:24.240 --> 0:12:26.840 brand and the other one is the extravagant one that 0:12:26.880 --> 0:12:30.080 you have to see to believe. So did you go extravagant? 0:12:30.120 --> 0:12:34.880 Was other time you did the extravagant day? And are you? 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:37.720 Am I boring everyone shitless? So am I continuing on this? 0:12:38.080 --> 0:12:40.320 I think people want to hear what the extravagant date 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:42.360 was or should we tell it? From our point of view? Yeah, 0:12:42.360 --> 0:12:46.160 maybe we should so. From Kate and my perspective, it 0:12:46.200 --> 0:12:47.960 was all a bit of fun, wasn't it, because we 0:12:48.080 --> 0:12:51.840 knew Brandon before and we just thought it was hilarious 0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:54.000 that they're actually going on a date together. The best 0:12:54.040 --> 0:12:55.880 bit was at our house that we were living at 0:12:55.880 --> 0:12:58.360 at the time. It was like, this really fancy house. 0:12:59.200 --> 0:13:02.040 I have missed that so much, and it had one 0:13:02.080 --> 0:13:04.160 of those cameras out the front where you could see 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:06.560 the person waiting at the door when they rang the doorbell. 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:09.440 So Amy and I like sprinted over and we could 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:11.240 and I've actually got it on my snapchat. We filmed 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:14.320 Brandon at the door and then he was like, We're like, hello, 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:17.520 come in, brother, And it's so funny because our house 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:20.280 I look back at that snapchat was an absolute tip, Like 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:23.600 how embarrassing. Anyway, poor Brandon's come in and you know, 0:13:23.679 --> 0:13:26.760 Sophie and him have gone off, and we were, like, 0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:29.920 being immature as we were, we were like, oh, I 0:13:29.960 --> 0:13:32.280 want to find out like what they're doing, where they're going. 0:13:32.559 --> 0:13:35.319 So they started snapchatting us like a few little clues 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:37.040 here and there. Anyway, so if you can tell us 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:39.280 what actually happened, and then we'll follow up what happened 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:42.280 with us. It was pretty cute because apparently he'd taken 0:13:42.320 --> 0:13:44.680 his mom and dad and sister to scope out some 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:47.000 of the locations and I think, is that just blows 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:48.640 my mind? And then his mom and sister had a 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:51.280 bit of a hand in helping him organize food anyway, 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:53.560 so they cut up a bunch of fruit. Yeah. Anyway, 0:13:53.559 --> 0:13:56.320 I arrived in the car, and what's funny now is 0:13:56.320 --> 0:13:59.240 his car is an absolute shit tip, Like nowadays, I 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:00.960 can't even get my I have to put my feet 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:03.640 on like bottles and fucking rubbish. Anyway, his car was 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:06.160 immaculately clean. I hopped in the car and he handed 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:08.280 me a golf ball and said, oh, you've got a 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:12.600 guess where we're going. Oh, minigolf anyway, So he took 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:15.400 me to mini golf, which ended up being closed, so 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:17.520 he had to think quickly. He didn't think about that 0:14:17.559 --> 0:14:19.520 one through. He had to think quickly on his feet, 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:21.760 so he went to mini golf at glenelg We then 0:14:21.960 --> 0:14:24.560 went for a little beach stroll and he had come 0:14:24.640 --> 0:14:28.240 up with some questions to ask one another, like anyway, 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:31.920 and he came up with questions and whipped them out. Wow, 0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:35.520 then it's like a love island. Then he asked me 0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:37.120 if I wanted to get ice cream down at Glenell, 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:38.600 but we hadn't had dinner yet, so I'm like, I 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:40.200 felt bad. I didn't want to spending all his money 0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:42.040 and I was like, no, no, that's fine. Anyway, Then 0:14:42.680 --> 0:14:45.520 we drive back. He heard that margarita pizza was my 0:14:45.560 --> 0:14:48.280 favorite food. We're going to picked up Margharita pizza. Can 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:50.840 I just add I loved it. He had asked Kate 0:14:50.920 --> 0:14:53.120 what your favorite food was and it was pizza in 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:56.200 the teller. Oh, I forgot about that anyway. So then 0:14:56.200 --> 0:14:59.240 he drives up to this lookout area near his house 0:14:59.800 --> 0:15:02.640 and and he opened the back of his ute and 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:05.400 he'd set up all these like pillows and blankets and 0:15:05.480 --> 0:15:07.840 chairs and like a little like kind of his laptop 0:15:07.880 --> 0:15:11.200 with movies on it. And then later and then he 0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:14.280 had an eski full of Natella which he bought a 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:16.400 spoon because because there's a joke that I just eat 0:15:16.600 --> 0:15:19.680 Natella like a peg with a spoon. You do anyway, 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:22.240 And yeah, so that was pretty much the really cute 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:24.720 date he took me on and he won me over 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:26.880 with that. It gets more interesting. So we found out 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:29.400 about said date and we've got a we've been sent 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:34.480 a snapchat of the location. So Amy and my two cousins, 0:15:34.480 --> 0:15:37.480 my adult cousins, who are what six foot five and two, 0:15:38.720 --> 0:15:40.480 we decided that we were going to go see if 0:15:40.520 --> 0:15:42.320 we could do a drive by. And we also got 0:15:42.320 --> 0:15:44.760 my friend Adam, who's like six foot five in the car. 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:47.040 So we're in Little Master two. Just to put it 0:15:47.040 --> 0:15:49.760 in perspective, Adam is a father of three and has 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:53.040 a wife and he skipped out on well he said 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:55.160 his wife, he said, Joe was asleep, so he'll come 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:57.240 and join us. So we picked him up. Anyway, the 0:15:57.280 --> 0:16:00.480 cars absolutely packed the brims and our cousin and was like, yeah, 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:02.360 I know where that is anyway, So like, it was 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:05.080 bloody miles away and we found them and so we 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:07.000 were like, oh fuck, Like you know that moment, we 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:09.360 were like, oh god, if they see us, they're going 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:12.280 to get so mad. So we yelled out something, can't 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:14.520 even remember what. Then we drove off and but we 0:16:14.600 --> 0:16:17.160 snapped a photo. Anyway, they had no idea that we 0:16:17.160 --> 0:16:19.360 were there, and it only came out later that we'd 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:21.200 been there. And it's just this on running joke. So 0:16:21.760 --> 0:16:24.640 to pay me back, I went on a date and 0:16:24.680 --> 0:16:28.920 they bloody all turned up and scoped out the restaurant 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:32.160 until I walked out. It was so embarrassing. Oh I 0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:35.200 remember that down at Henley b Yeah, it was so good. 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:38.200 And we got this amazing snapchat of you exiting the 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:42.000 date and everyone was laughing in the background. I don't 0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:44.160 even think you saw us though. The worst bit was 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:45.880 I knew you'd do something like that. But you know, 0:16:45.920 --> 0:16:47.680 when you're late, you can feel like you're being watched, 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:49.880 but you don't know where you are, sorry, where they are. 0:16:50.320 --> 0:16:52.920 We're talking about different levels of dates. I think we've 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:56.160 all had dates that haven't gone too well. Kate, do 0:16:56.200 --> 0:16:58.080 you have well, okay, I know you have a few 0:16:58.120 --> 0:17:02.200 stories about those. Well, I've been a mug that thought, 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:04.240 you know, it's nice to put her on dinners. Actually 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:06.800 I've got two. There was one guy that I invited 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:10.240 over for dinner, and you guys actually helped like clean 0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:11.840 up the Christmas like we didn't have. It was I 0:17:11.880 --> 0:17:13.680 think it was like February and the Christmas tree was 0:17:13.720 --> 0:17:17.000 still up, both Christmas trees, but we had two Christmas trees. Anyway, 0:17:17.080 --> 0:17:19.240 So Amy and Sophie Conney, when I was at work, 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:24.760 packed with the Christmas decorations, cleaned the whole house, made spaghetti, 0:17:25.119 --> 0:17:26.920 you know, really put an effort in and we and 0:17:27.280 --> 0:17:29.280 so when I exited the house. Yeah, so they were 0:17:29.280 --> 0:17:31.000 over at Mum and Dad, so everyone knew that this 0:17:31.119 --> 0:17:34.480 dinner day was going on. The guy rocks up eats 0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:36.960 and then told me he had he rocked up late 0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:38.960 as well. Yeah, ropped up late, told me he had 0:17:38.960 --> 0:17:41.679 a movie on. So stayed for I think it was 0:17:41.720 --> 0:17:44.000 like forty five minutes, and then left and didn't even 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:45.480 invite me to the movie that he was seeing with 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:48.080 people that I knew. It is so rude. It was 0:17:48.160 --> 0:17:50.720 so rude. And then another one was there was another 0:17:50.760 --> 0:17:53.280 guy and this was more perplexing because he taken me 0:17:53.320 --> 0:17:57.080 out on all these like quite decent dates to nice 0:17:57.119 --> 0:17:59.080 restaurants and movies and paid for the bill and all that. 0:17:59.119 --> 0:18:00.800 So I was like, oh, well, I'm gonna show that, 0:18:00.880 --> 0:18:02.879 you know, I'm putting in an effort and I'll make 0:18:02.920 --> 0:18:06.760 him dinner. So and isn't that what every guy wants? Yeah? 0:18:06.800 --> 0:18:09.040 So yeah, Amy, And so if you've got you know, 0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:11.600 we're gonna leave the house. And they actually we went shopping, 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:14.080 and I always get a bit embarrassed planning things, so 0:18:14.200 --> 0:18:17.560 like I felt awkward, you know, picking out the food. Anyway, 0:18:17.600 --> 0:18:20.680 the day of the date comes and I messaged him saying, oh, 0:18:20.720 --> 0:18:23.120 so what time are you coming? Oh? Sorry, I've got 0:18:23.119 --> 0:18:25.639 something on and I was just like I remember walking 0:18:25.720 --> 0:18:29.320 down and I was like, fuck, like this is bullshit. 0:18:29.359 --> 0:18:31.679 Like I was more like I didn't really care. It 0:18:31.760 --> 0:18:33.840 was just more that I was embarrassed. That's right. It 0:18:33.880 --> 0:18:36.520 is embarrassing when you've told all your family or friends 0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:38.680 about this person and you do feel like such a mug. 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:40.879 I think that's half the reason why you do do 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:44.040 the You know, when you're not getting as many messages back, 0:18:44.080 --> 0:18:46.600 that's when you do start like it's you've got a 0:18:46.600 --> 0:18:48.399 bit of pressure on you because people know about it. 0:18:48.440 --> 0:18:50.000 So you're like, oh, I'm sure there's some sort of 0:18:50.000 --> 0:18:53.280 misunderstanding why they're not replying. It's not because they're not interested. Well, 0:18:53.320 --> 0:18:57.119