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Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, it's been a very quick week.

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Speaker 2: Everyone else is turning your heads, not really that interested.

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Speaker 2: How long was the dry spell?

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Speaker 1: I was a log one.

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Speaker 6: It was three and a half weeks between shags and

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Speaker 1: That is a dry spell for me.

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Speaker 2: I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 1: But yes, I did get laid, So happy days. I

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Speaker 2: I'm really proud of you.

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Speaker 6: It's got the bisexual Brisbane moms all in a tis

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Speaker 6: Years ago, I first interviewed Genevieve from Skirt Club, she's

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Speaker 7: Love you to see you again. Johna, how are you doing.

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Speaker 1: I'm very well and thank you for joining us. You're

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Speaker 7: That's right.

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Speaker 8: I'm here to host Skirt Club Paris on Saturday nights,

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Speaker 6: Okay, So how would you summarize Skirt Club and what

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Speaker 8: Well, Skirt Club is a community for by curious or

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Speaker 6: What can someone expects, so say someone a woman's listening

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Speaker 8: You're welcomed by a team of women who have been

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Speaker 7: And yeah, there's a dress cord, there's champagne flowing.

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Speaker 8: There's typically about fifty or so other members who join,

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Speaker 1: So are women expected, like, what's the expectation if you

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Speaker 7: It's absolutely their expectation to take part.

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Speaker 8: And most of our guests will stay up front there.

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Speaker 8: is it okay to sit back? The answer is absolutely yes,

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Speaker 6: And what are tips for women who because we all

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Speaker 2: We're not that hard to work out. Are we to

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Speaker 6: The woman I spoke to who went to the Brisbane party,

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Speaker 8: Yes, absolutely, and I don't have a concrete number, but

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Speaker 7: And this is something typically she's trying.

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Speaker 7: And the fact that there are no men.

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Speaker 6: Now, Genevieve, I heard the wildest story that started at

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we've got to talk about that next more with

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Speaker 6: Today we're talking to Genevieve Lujehune, who is the co

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Speaker 2: Took a really classy swimming swingers club for women right.

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Speaker 1: Exactly exactly, so I am excited to.

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Speaker 7: Chat to her.

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Speaker 2: Genevieve has stuck around. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: Genevieve, what was it like when you first started this

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Speaker 8: Coming up, We've got quite a few dates in Australia

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Speaker 6: Unless you've been hiding under a rock, you would know

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're not going to fall for what the tabloids

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Speaker 5: Thank you so very much for having me. Janna and Michael,

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Speaker 7: So was I surprised a little bit? Was I really surprised?

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Speaker 6: And so the fact that they've been married for seventeen years.

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Speaker 1: To hash through their finances and their property and custody, Like,

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Speaker 5: Unfortunately, on paper, from my understanding, it looks like Keith

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Speaker 6: So they would have been working behind the scenes a

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Speaker 7: Strange, strange.

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Speaker 5: And that's the thing, you know, it's not a one

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Speaker 5: And it's not a one size fits all model. If

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Speaker 6: So, but I want to know what was her divorced

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Speaker 1: Like why how I'm trying to figure out why that was.

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Speaker 5: The reality is, when it comes to these prenups, the

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Speaker 5: stay off the cocaine and I'll pay you this.

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Speaker 6: Money, okay, And we are hearing rumors that perhaps he's

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Speaker 1: Does that have any effect on.

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Speaker 4: Essentially, we live in a no fault divorce system, which

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Speaker 4: If Keith was in fact having an affair or was

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Speaker 7: And that's where it gets tricky.

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Speaker 6: So so how would you if I was Nicole and

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Speaker 5: It's really really interesting that we're talking about this very

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Speaker 5: Australia which talks about a concept of add backs money

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Speaker 5: that has been spent during the marriage or after the

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Speaker 5: separation date, which we essentially cannot add back to the

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Speaker 5: matrimonial pull wastage of funds, which could in fact be

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Speaker 5: categorically the price paid on the boob job of the mistress.

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Speaker 5: Let's say, yeah, so it gets really tricky now with

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Speaker 5: this new case and this new precedent that's been set

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Speaker 5: in Australia, because if Nicole was divorcing here and that

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Speaker 5: was an issue for her where Keith was spending money

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Speaker 5: on this other woman from the joint funds, she couldn't

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Speaker 5: in fact seek to get those funds added back to

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Speaker 5: the net asset pool.

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Speaker 7: But it wouldn't look too good if the matter was

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Speaker 7: to go to court.

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Speaker 1: Right God Daily, Melwood, eat that.

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Speaker 7: Up with live.

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Speaker 3: Look aside from these rumors of Keith ptently moving on

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Speaker 3: with a much younger woman, it seems relatively amicable, which

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Speaker 3: is somewhat boring. You did mention that you have come

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Speaker 3: across rather saucy and nasty divorces. We want to talk

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Speaker 3: about that next. And you did mention it's divorce season, Janna, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: which apparently is a thing. If someone's listening right now,

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Speaker 3: they're going, you know what, they're looking at that husband

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Speaker 3: wife going yeah, nah, it's time to Nicole, kidman my

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Speaker 3: ass out of here. We want to get the do's

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Speaker 3: and don't so they don't end up in tricky legal battles.

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Speaker 2: Is that okay? If we can run that by you.

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Speaker 3: As well, absolutely more with divorce lawyer Irene chris Apaliti's

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Speaker 3: next saucy Secrets on Kiss. We are joined on the

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Speaker 3: show by expert divorce lawyer Irene Chrisapalites.

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Speaker 6: She's incredible on TikTok, she gives the most amazing divorce

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Speaker 6: advice and we're so lucky.

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Speaker 1: To have her today.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, Nicole Kidman Keith Urban in the news their divorce.

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Speaker 3: It is literally everywhere, but we thought, you know, not

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Speaker 3: everyone has millions of dollars in the bank account and

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Speaker 3: can't just call up their shot lawyers to help with

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Speaker 3: a divorce, right, It's not that easy for those people.

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Speaker 6: No, it's not, and even trying to figure out where

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Speaker 6: to begin, it's overwhelming. So let's break down exactly the

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Speaker 6: dos and don'ts of.

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Speaker 5: Divorce absolutely so. Look, my advice to my clients is

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Speaker 5: simple but powerful. A protect yourself through clarity and preparation

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Speaker 5: is what I tell my clients, and that starts by

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Speaker 5: being completely transparent about your finances from the outset of

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Speaker 5: a relationship or more importantly, before you get married to

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Speaker 5: that person. Because money kept in the dark is often

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Speaker 5: it often becomes a bigger source of distress later on

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Speaker 5: and the biggest, the biggest source of conflict later on,

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Speaker 5: So keep clear records of who owns what.

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Speaker 6: So I think we all really want to know what

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Speaker 6: are the wildest divorce stories.

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Speaker 2: You've looked after? We're all waiting for divorce story.

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Speaker 5: I've seen cases where parents have been in constant conflict

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Speaker 5: for years, sometimes over very small issues that escalate quickly.

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Speaker 5: And the reality is we're seeing more and more tricky

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Speaker 5: issues arise over social media.

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Speaker 7: How someoney is presenting to.

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Speaker 5: The world, who they're talking to, who's sliding into their dms,

505
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Speaker 5: asking to see each other's phones. It's these little issues

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Speaker 5: that are becoming massive issues in the relationship.

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Speaker 7: And what's been really really interesting for us is to see.

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Speaker 5: The way culture in society has changed reasons for divorce.

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Speaker 6: I was talking to James Sexton, who is a New

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Speaker 6: York divorce attorney, this week, and he said to me

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Speaker 6: that Apple and iPhones and ye clouds and iPads have

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Speaker 6: paid for his holiday house.

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Speaker 1: Because people forget that.

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Speaker 6: They're like, you know, they leave the couple watch on

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Speaker 6: the bed, sidete and go have a shower, and then

516
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Speaker 6: a saucy picture comes up from their secretary. Have you

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Speaker 6: found similar things where people just aren't remembering that technology

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Speaker 6: holds all their secrets.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, Janna, And we live in a day and age

520
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Speaker 5: now where technology is taking over and secret slip and

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Speaker 5: if you get one setting one toggle bar off, you're

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Speaker 5: getting a missed call on your kid's iPad from your

523
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Speaker 5: girlfriends at work, and that can cause massive dramas. So, yes,

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Speaker 5: our evidence files on our client's cases do contain multiple

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Speaker 5: screenshots of those types of matters. Do you find it

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Speaker 5: easier as a lawyer now that you do have all

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Speaker 5: this digital footprint to make a case stronger because someone

528
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Speaker 5: has whipped out their iPhone during an argument, or they

529
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Speaker 5: have got the evidence of someone cheating through text messages

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Speaker 5: to really kind of go to town on them if.

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Speaker 7: You need to.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I find that it is much easier as a

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Speaker 5: lawyer in this day and age to collate that type

534
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Speaker 5: of evidence because it's there, it's.

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Speaker 7: Black and white.

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Speaker 5: But not only that, I also say that we do

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Speaker 5: need to acknowledge that there are great benefits in our

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Speaker 5: ability to access this type of technological advancement because of

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Speaker 5: the fact that we've got apps that can provide clients

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Speaker 5: with a platform to communicate safely as well if needed,

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Speaker 5: and that there are records of that communication in apps

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Speaker 5: like parenting apps and others like that.

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Speaker 6: If you are someone listening right now and you're like, okay,

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Speaker 6: I need to start the proceedings, what are three things

545
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Speaker 6: they should do straight away to begin the divorce procedure

546
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Speaker 6: that will put them on the best foot forward.

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Speaker 5: The first thing I recommend you do is get your

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Speaker 5: emotions in check, because you need to be of a

549
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Speaker 5: rational mind to enter this process. And quite often do

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Speaker 5: we find that parties come to see us, of course

551
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Speaker 5: in the darkest moments of their lives, but really emotionally charged.

552
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Speaker 5: And those emotions aren't going to get you very five.

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Speaker 5: You're not thinking straight or hearing the advice that's going

554
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Speaker 5: to come to you. Secondly, the advice i'd give people

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Speaker 5: is that they get their finances in order. My third

556
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Speaker 5: piece of advice is this, make sure you fully understand

557
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Speaker 5: your legal options, legal costs, and your responsibilities.

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Speaker 7: And I've got one more.

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Speaker 5: If there are kids involved, always remember their best interests

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Speaker 5: is what is the primary consideration of the court. The

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Speaker 5: court don't care about you as a parent. They care

562
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Speaker 5: that the child is safe and well taken care of.

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Speaker 1: Now, just finally it is divorced season.

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Speaker 6: So I've heard that, Like, you know, a lot of

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Speaker 6: people are getting to the end of the year and

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Speaker 6: they're going, what a hell of a year we've had.

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Speaker 1: I'm exhausted. I can't stand you. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: start next year still in this hot mess.

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Speaker 6: So have you noticed a lot of people are starting

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Speaker 6: to come to you now? I heard the second of

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Speaker 6: January is the most popular day for people to file

572
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Speaker 6: for divorce because they're like, I'm not doing.

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Speaker 1: Another year of this.

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Speaker 6: But are you noticing now people are really warming up

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Speaker 6: and like you've had an uptake in business.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I noticed it in the gym when you

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Speaker 5: see all the new people walk.

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Speaker 1: That's so true. That's so true.

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Speaker 6: Actually a.

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Speaker 7: Year, everybody's getting ready for summer.

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Speaker 5: That could be something going on at home, but yeah, look,

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Speaker 5: it's unfortunate. But the reality is as we head towards

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Speaker 5: the end of the year, people are starting to think

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Speaker 5: exactly that, Jana, I'm not going into another year of

585
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Speaker 5: this BS. I'm going in with a fresh slate, and

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Speaker 5: people are starting to feel more empowered to make those

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Speaker 5: careerous decisions.

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Speaker 3: Ireen, thank you so much for coming on saucy secrets

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Speaker 2: You're about to.

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Speaker 6: Admit, Yes, I am bringing my own saucy secret to

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Speaker 6: the table this week, and I should be ashamed about it,

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Speaker 6: but I am not because I stand by all my

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Speaker 6: actions for the story I'm about to tell. So let

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Speaker 6: me start by saying, I broke into my ex's house

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Speaker 6: one night, went through his phone, deleted my I call

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Speaker 6: them chelfies, which were selfies of my chest my babies,

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Speaker 6: all right, and then I commander ruled out.

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Speaker 2: It's a much nicer way of saying titpic. Isn't it

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Speaker 2: a chelfie?

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Speaker 1: I think it's class.

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Speaker 2: Tit pick.

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Speaker 1: But I wrote about this. I did not think this

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Speaker 1: was a big deal, and then it blew up.

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Speaker 6: I was writing for news dot com, dot you back then,

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Speaker 6: and I was like, Oh, what am I going to

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Speaker 6: write about this week? I was talking to my owner

631
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Speaker 6: and I was like, oh, I broke into my ex's

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Speaker 6: house one.

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Speaker 2: Time, casually like yeah, I was like maybe that's something.

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Speaker 1: She's like, no, no, that's something.

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Speaker 6: So I was in a relationship and shit with a guy,

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Speaker 6: and I would love to say that he was toxic, but.

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Speaker 1: I think we were both.

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Speaker 2: Now, your behavior is completely normal here, You're totally fine.

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Speaker 1: I know you're like Lang, but I appreciate it.

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Speaker 6: And we'd broken up, and I was well aware, this

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Speaker 6: was like ten years ago, that he had a lot

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Speaker 6: of pictures on my boobs and my proudest asset. They are,

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Speaker 6: you know, I was blessed with a big set, and

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Speaker 6: so I'd like to show them off when I'm feeling

645
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Speaker 6: particularly horny. And it was two am in the morning,

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Speaker 6: and I had gone through all the emotions of the breakup,

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Speaker 6: and I was I cried, I'd got angry. But then

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Speaker 6: I was like, oh, no, he's got all these pictures,

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Speaker 6: he's in, he's got michel Fish, he's in a bad mood.

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Speaker 1: He might get a bit revenge, ye. And this was

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Speaker 1: before the laws for revenge porn had come out.

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Speaker 2: I could just send it and not really getting any

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Speaker 2: kind of trouble exactly.

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Speaker 6: And I just had the fear of God that he

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Speaker 6: was going to go to the pub the next day,

656
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Speaker 6: bitch to everyone about the breakup, and then show them.

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Speaker 2: A little goodness.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And I had this genius idea. I know he's

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Speaker 6: a deep sleeper. He likes the herbal supplements, if you

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Speaker 6: know what I mean. And so he was in a

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Speaker 6: deep sleep.

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Speaker 3: This is like a full blown home invasion. While he's

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Speaker 3: there upstairs in bed.

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Speaker 1: So I knew that the window wouldn't lock properly.

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Speaker 2: You went through the window.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, his dog, Axle was there, this beautiful staff and

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Speaker 1: chit terrier. I pated him. I said, oh, Axel. I

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Speaker 1: quickly snuck in his room.

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Speaker 2: Did you wear a balaclava? No, what were you wearing

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Speaker 2: when you were in all black with a hood? What

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Speaker 2: were you wearing?

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Speaker 6: It's two am in the morning. I think I was

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Speaker 6: still in my pajamas. I was just one of those

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Speaker 6: mad moments. I was like, just get up and do

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Speaker 6: it before you was out. Hopped in my car, drove

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Speaker 6: to his house and went through his window, patted his dog,

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Speaker 6: found his phone.

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Speaker 1: Thank god. This was before the thumb prints or the

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Speaker 1: face prints, like you.

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Speaker 2: Knew the pink code or sometimes I didn't even have them.

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Speaker 1: Then to too too too.

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Speaker 3: That was it.

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Speaker 2: So I went into he's hurriedly now changing his pink code.

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Speaker 2: What's his name?

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Speaker 3: Well, just completely expled what we're going. We know his

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Speaker 3: dog's name, his phone, pin code, what's his address.

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Speaker 1: I'm already going to jail.

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Speaker 6: It is no just so.

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Speaker 1: Then I went through his phone, found all the pictures,

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Speaker 1: deleted them. And here's the tip.

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Speaker 6: Girls, you don't just delete them, you delete them from

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Speaker 6: the deleted folder as well. I had no rookie, this

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Speaker 6: is not my first time, deleted it from that, strutted

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Speaker 6: on out, went back through the window, drove home, had

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Speaker 6: the best night sleep of my life.

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Speaker 1: Great and then you went on, didn't think about it,

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Speaker 1: put it in an article. Oh my god. The internet

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Speaker 1: erupted and I had lad Bible reach out and they

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Speaker 1: wrote a response article about it, and it was this

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Speaker 1: beautiful guy and he said, I really wanted to take

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Speaker 1: you to town for doing this and say that you

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Speaker 1: should be in jail and this is terrible, but he's like, no,

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Speaker 1: I stand by it. That was a really good decision.

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Speaker 2: Did the blog ever realize? Oh yeah, that story.

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Speaker 1: Went viral and he sent me your message going how

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Speaker 1: dare you? And then there was a bit of backup, Sorry,

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Speaker 1: what's so?

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Speaker 3: The police have just made their way in. Anyway, it's

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Speaker 3: been nice knowing you. You're off to Long Bay. It's

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Speaker 3: been really a joyable on that Sheery note we have

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Speaker 3: reached the end of yet another Saucy Secrets. As always,

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Speaker 3: you lead a life.

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Speaker 2: You lead a life.

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Speaker 6: I don't realize they do until I see your face

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Speaker 6: during this entire show and go, oh yeah, you think it's.

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Speaker 2: Normal, which is the funny part.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I broke into my ex's house and that's

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Speaker 3: a totally normal thing, and I'll do it again anyway.

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Speaker 3: Saucy Secrets live from Maximum Security next weekend.

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Speaker 2: Don't forget.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully see you next week. So I don't know about you,

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Speaker 1: but I use chat GPT for everything.

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Speaker 2: Can I be honest?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I might be the only person on the planet

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Speaker 3: that has never used chat shop. I've never used it.

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Speaker 6: Okay, I give you one afternoon to just play around

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Speaker 6: with it, and you will never look back.

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Speaker 3: It's funny because it's now become like a normal part

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Speaker 3: of most people's lives.

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Speaker 1: Live therapist and my best friend.

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Speaker 3: You can get recipes if you want to cook something.

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Speaker 3: If you don't know how to write an uncomfortable work email,

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Speaker 3: you can run it through chat chapt like.

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Speaker 1: It literally does everything I think it's genius.

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Speaker 6: I've used it to text boys, I've used it to

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Speaker 6: break up with boys, I've used it for everything. But

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Speaker 6: this Only Fans creator has now brought chat chipet into

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Speaker 6: the bedroom, right, and I think she's a genius.

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Speaker 1: So her name is Alex Alex Link, and she's created

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Speaker 1: an AI version of herself to do some of the

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Speaker 1: more undesirable jobs that comes with being an Only Fans creator.

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Speaker 3: So when you say an AI version of her self,

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Speaker 3: is it just like to chat or is it photos

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Speaker 3: and videos?

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Speaker 1: Everything?

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Speaker 6: So right, I discovered the other day with Only Fans,

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Speaker 6: you actually it's not just putting up some saucy pictures

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Speaker 6: of yourself or doing some kinky videos. You actually to

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Speaker 6: make money, you have to speak to your fans so

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Speaker 6: much as I know, it's like having a thousand boyfriends

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Speaker 6: and they can send you request, so can I have

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Speaker 6: a video of you sucking your toe?

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Speaker 1: Can you? And then you send it to them and

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Speaker 1: you get extra mindy.

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Speaker 3: So like, the more personalized the experience with their subscribers,

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Speaker 3: the more money they're going to make, as opposed to

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Speaker 3: just oh, here's a new photo gallery of fifteen photos

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Speaker 3: exactly Trevor wants a photo of a tosuck and Trev's

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Speaker 3: gonna pay more money for that.

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Speaker 1: Exact true, and it's such a dog eat dog word.

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Speaker 6: But this girl, Alex Link, she's brought AI into it,

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Speaker 6: so she's created her own AI twin that can constantly

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Speaker 6: be putting out content, not just her and the stuff

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Speaker 6: that she doesn't feel comfortable doing, she'll get her AI

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Speaker 6: twin to do it.

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Speaker 3: I'm assuming that this stuff is probably for like creepy

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Speaker 3: and intense stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, She's like, I don't.

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Speaker 6: Want to do it and it's creepy, but I do

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Speaker 6: want your money, So I'm going to get this AI

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Speaker 6: twin to sub in for me. And then it's kind

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Speaker 6: of genius because then she's online twenty four to seven,

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Speaker 6: so she might want to go to bed at nine

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Speaker 6: pm one night and not send all these saucy texts.

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Speaker 3: So it's also like a secretary as opposed to doing

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Speaker 3: the dirty stuff. She doesn't want to it just replies

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Speaker 3: to emails.

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Speaker 1: Yes exactly, but they saucy emails. So I think she's

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Speaker 1: a genius.

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Speaker 6: She's got two million followers on Instagram, she's got a

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Speaker 6: huge audience on only fans. I think this girl's going

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Speaker 6: to last a distance. It got me thinking. I was like, well,

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Speaker 6: what are some jobs that I would like to.

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Speaker 1: Give to an AI persona of myself in the bedroom?

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Speaker 6: Okay, So I threw it out to all my WhatsApp

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Speaker 6: groups and I said to them, even AI twin of

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Speaker 6: yourself could do all this stuff you didn't want to

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Speaker 6: do in the bedroom, what would you get them to do?

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Speaker 1: And the responses were hilarious.

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Speaker 6: So one of my friends wrote, she can handle the

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Speaker 6: whole talk dirty bit because honestly, I just run out

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Speaker 6: of material after five minutes.

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Speaker 2: Ok.

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Speaker 1: My AI twin can just keep going and going and going.

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Speaker 2: Have you seen that.

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Speaker 6: Instagram where it's a girl like making dinner while like

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Speaker 6: sexting her boyfriend and he's like really in the.

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Speaker 1: Moment, she's stirring upon going Yes, I want.

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Speaker 6: To do that to you. Yeah, do it while she's

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Speaker 6: making the dinner, whereas your little AI twin can do

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Speaker 6: that for you. Another said, my AI clone can do

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Speaker 6: all the morning sex. I'm sorry, but before coffee, forget it.

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Speaker 1: I don't get the one because I love morning sex.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm assuming that AI chatbots don't have like morning

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Speaker 3: breath either, and they don't have bed hair so they can.

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Speaker 2: Just get it.

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Speaker 1: They're good to go. They're good to go.

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Speaker 6: Another said, my AI double can take care of the

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Speaker 6: endless what's your fantasy chit chat?

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Speaker 1: She's got a whole script ready to go.

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Speaker 6: Oh my got Another girl wrote, he can deal with

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Speaker 6: the fetch me a towel moment I'm while I'm busy

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Speaker 6: lying stuffish, that's nice.

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Speaker 1: It's so awkward that bit. So yeah, AI can be

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Speaker 1: like guys, you you cud all over there.

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Speaker 2: I'll go get the towel, deal with the queen.

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Speaker 5: Um oh.

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Speaker 6: Another girl wrote, let's be real. My AI twin can

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Speaker 6: take care of the back door request. That's her job,

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Speaker 6: not mine. Amen's sister, I'll tea what. Sure, you can

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Speaker 6: go down the path of AI. But it's not real, guys,

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