1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: In a world where social media criticism can make or 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: break a brand, how do you stay true to your 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 1: vision and maintain your mental toughness. Kayla its Cenis is 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: a fitness mogul with over sixteen million Instagram followers and 5 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: is the co founder of the wildly successful Sweat app. 6 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 1: But it hasn't been all smooth sailing for Kayla, and 7 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: she has received her fair share of criticism, both personally 8 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: and professionally. So how has Kayla learnt to silence the 9 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 1: noise of the critics and focus on what truly matters? 10 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 1: Welcome to How I Work, a show about habits, rituals, 11 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 1: and strategies for optimizing your day. I'm your host, doctor 12 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: Amantha Imber. On today's Quick Win episode, we go back 13 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: to an interview from the past and I pick out 14 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: a quick win that you can apply today. In today's show, 15 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: I speak with Kayla it Cenis about how she dealt 16 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: with backlash early on in her journey with the Sweat app. 17 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: When I've heard you talk in other interviews around just 18 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 1: how much you care so deeply for Sweat and what 19 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: you've created, and that's absolutely no surprise, Like it is 20 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,919 Speaker 1: you You put everything into it, and I was hearing 21 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: you talk about how in the early days where you 22 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: started charging a subscription fee, which of course now is 23 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: really normal, that's a really common business model. When you 24 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: did it, it was really uncommon, and you've got some backlash, 25 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: And I was wondering, as a business owner, how do 26 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 1: you decide which battles to fight and which ones not 27 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: to when business is really personal for you? 28 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 2: It is really personal. What I've learned is stop catering 29 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 2: to the minority of people that are complaining about something 30 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 2: that they're never going to download, they're never going to research, 31 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 2: they're never going to understand. However, you are reacting to 32 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 2: these one percent of people instead of appreciating the ninety 33 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 2: nine percent of people who have got something positive to 34 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 2: say about this situation. So in the early days, when 35 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 2: you first start business, you see a thousand amazing comments, 36 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 2: You're amazing, you're the best, I love you, And then 37 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 2: you see one comment being like I heard you're a liar, 38 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 2: and you're like, wait what, I'm not a lie of 39 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 2: my life. Then you freak out and you're like what 40 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 2: did that? Why did that one person say that? Like 41 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 2: I'm definitely not, And it's like you're ignoring the amazing 42 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 2: people that support you, and you're catering to that one person. 43 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 2: So when the subscription came out and everyone lost their minds. 44 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 2: It wasn't everyone. It was maybe one hundred people. The 45 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 2: rest were like, oh my god, sweat is an app 46 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 2: incredible A hundred people like that's too expensive. I don't 47 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 2: want to do that. It's not worth it. I've never 48 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 2: paid that much in my life. And I'm like everyone, 49 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 2: I blank that everyone is freaking out. They weren't. So 50 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 2: if you're listening to this and you run a business, 51 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 2: do not cater to the minority. Listen to the majority 52 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 2: of people and what they want and what they appreciate, 53 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 2: because you'll make you feel so much better. And journal gratitude. 54 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 2: Journal write down you're grateful for those peop write down 55 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 2: the things that they say because it really matters. When 56 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 2: you read it in front of me, you're like, that's 57 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 2: actually beautiful. 58 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: What strategies have you used to be at peace that 59 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: there are going to be a small percentage of people 60 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: that you're just not going to win over and assume 61 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: the worst. 62 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's really hard if you're starting out, 63 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 2: because if you know exactly who you are and you 64 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 2: have a certain set of morals that you stick to. 65 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 2: It's very hard when someone questions that because you know 66 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 2: you're not that person. But I think in the same sense, 67 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 2: if you know who you are and you have a 68 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 2: certain set of morals that you stick to, you know 69 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 2: you're not that person. Therefore, nothing that someone can say 70 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 2: that doesn't know you can affect you because they don't 71 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 2: know you, they don't know who you are. And I 72 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 2: think it's important having things that you love and your 73 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 2: non negotiables like for example, mine and my family and 74 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 2: spending time with my kids and spending time with my husband, 75 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 2: and I know that these people love me. So when 76 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 2: someone doesn't love me, then I don't know. I just 77 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 2: don't care, like I just don't care. And I think 78 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 2: it's really hard when you feel so alone and you 79 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 2: don't have things that you love and you don't have hobbies. 80 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 2: It's very easy to take someone else's opinion of you 81 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 2: and take that as gospel, and take that offense and 82 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 2: take that you know to heart, whereas on the flip side, 83 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 2: lots of love, let's care about what if someone else 84 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 2: thinks about you. 85 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 1: I love that Kayla, such great advice. I hope you 86 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: enjoyed today's Quick Win episode. If you would like to 87 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: hear the full chat with Kayla, you can find a 88 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: link to that in the show notes. If you're looking 89 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: for more tips to improve the way you work, can live. 90 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: I write a short weekly newsletter that contains tactics I've 91 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: discovered that have helped me personally. You can sign up 92 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: for that at Amantha dot com. That's Amantha dot com. 93 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: If you like today's show, make sure you hit follow 94 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 1: on your podcast app to be alerted when new episodes drop. 95 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: How I Work was recorded on the traditional land of 96 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 1: the Warrangery people, part of the Cool and Nation. 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