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Speaker 1: Jersey and Amanda Jam Nation.

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Speaker 2: Breaking news Crowded House and returning with the Gravity Scares Tour.

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Speaker 2: They're playing live at the Sydney Opera House, four Cut

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Speaker 2: Court on the fourth and fifth December. Tickets go on

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Speaker 2: sale to the thirtieth of May, the Thursday, the thirty May.

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Speaker 2: Wins It when that's next week. Info and tickets available

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Speaker 2: at livenation dot com dot au. And we've got Neil

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Speaker 2: on the zoom right now.

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Speaker 1: Hello Kneel Neil Finn. Hello, look at hello. How we're

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Speaker 1: doing very well? I love this thirty five years touring again,

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Speaker 1: new music. How different is life? Well, obviously life's so

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Speaker 1: different now. But what were some of those early tours,

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Speaker 1: like thirty five years ago? Did you get a kitcat backstage?

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Speaker 1: And that was about it.

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Speaker 3: I was fond of the odd kitcat actually, but you know, well,

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Speaker 3: the first tour that we ever did with Crowded House

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Speaker 3: was actually we were called the Mulanes and it was

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Speaker 3: Paul and Nick and I and Craig Hooper and we

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Speaker 3: all fitted it in won high car and I was

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Speaker 3: the tour manager and I was having to hit the

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Speaker 3: promoters up for the money after the show, and we

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Speaker 3: almost universally lost money at every show. Well they lost money.

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Speaker 3: We were on guarantees. It was really quite a good

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Speaker 3: education for me to go and count out the cash

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Speaker 3: over the ironing board backstage and have the promoter go.

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Speaker 3: But we only had fifty people make can we negotiate?

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Speaker 3: And I was quite hard asked about it, I'd said no,

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Speaker 3: and over.

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Speaker 2: All rightly so, because you had all the success of

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Speaker 2: Split Ends and you almost had to pretty much start

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Speaker 2: over again with Crowded House.

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Speaker 3: Well we did under that name. We didn't draw very

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Speaker 3: big crowds, but as soon as Crowded House turned up,

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Speaker 3: we actually started to actually I think, you know, your

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Speaker 3: good stations started playing mean to me before. It was

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Speaker 3: the first sort of hint of any success that we

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Speaker 3: got with that. And then the tours started to get

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Speaker 3: real good. And that pub circuit, as some may remember,

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Speaker 3: was a really vibrant time in Australian music. People were

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Speaker 3: turning out big time. There were nos, no health and

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Speaker 3: safety whatsoever. They were packing a thousand people into four

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Speaker 3: hundred person rooms, and you know which was memorable and

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Speaker 3: quite exciting really those days. There was a lot of

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Speaker 3: a lot of energy in the room.

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Speaker 2: I remember hearing a story about you guys many years

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Speaker 2: ago supporting ac DC, and that was like when you

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Speaker 2: were Split Ends, and that was a really big mix

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Speaker 2: of crowds because you had you guys with your kooky

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Speaker 2: faces and your makeup, and then you've got Bond Scott's

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Speaker 2: bull tearing rock and roll, and you guys were great

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Speaker 2: with rock and roll as well. But the crowd got

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Speaker 2: a bit hostile.

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Speaker 3: The crowd got That was even before I joined Split Ins.

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Speaker 3: But that is a famous story now in the legacy.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, they were booed off by a whole bunch

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Speaker 3: of sharpies at the festival hall, and Sebanski was one

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Speaker 3: of those sharpies apparently who threw some kind of plastic

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Speaker 3: item a term. There wasn't really a match made in

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Speaker 3: heaven ac DC and split Ins, but both yan bands

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Speaker 3: and their own right, But yeah, it was. You know,

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Speaker 3: you can get over these things. They make you stronger.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the sharpies make you stronger. So here are new music.

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Speaker 1: You've all done your own thing in the meantime. How's

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Speaker 1: a collaborative has it been? Do you say, here's what

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Speaker 1: I'm interested in?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 1: How do you make it work.

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Speaker 3: Well with a band? The great thing about a band

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Speaker 3: is that nobody does exactly what you would do, so

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Speaker 3: you get the light is let into your arrangement to

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Speaker 3: your song, and you get lovely surprises. And I'm very

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Speaker 3: fortunate to have my two sons, Liam and Elro who

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Speaker 3: become incredible musicians and writers in their own right, and

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Speaker 3: Mitchell Frum who was our original producer, and with my

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Speaker 3: old friend Nick Seymour, who's been there from the beginning,

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Speaker 3: it feels like a very soulful lineup, and everyone's very

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Speaker 3: collaborative and rehearsals a fun and hard work. We're determined,

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Speaker 3: you know. We a lot of endurance built up over

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Speaker 3: the years and a compulsion to try and make every

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Speaker 3: record better than the last. And yeah, it was still

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Speaker 3: a lot of hunger.

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Speaker 2: Do you remember doing a Simon Tawm's's Wonderworld story with

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Speaker 2: Amanda Keller a young Amanda color dress in a wedding

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Speaker 2: dress many years ago?

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Speaker 1: I was a researcher and I wrote myself into the

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Speaker 1: story and turned up in a wedding dress. This would

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Speaker 1: have been about one hundred and fifty eight million years ago.

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Speaker 3: You're up to team what was a memorable thing because

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Speaker 3: not many people, In fact, I don't think anybody else

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Speaker 3: has ever turned up in a wedding dress, Amanda, So

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Speaker 3: you kudos to me into our history quite well there.

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Speaker 1: I may not have turned up for the Sharpies, but

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Speaker 1: I was there at Simon townshend Tunderworld.

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Speaker 2: So you've got Magda Zebanski throwing plastic items at you're

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Speaker 2: Amanda Keller and a wedding dress.

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Speaker 1: You've covered all options, you really have.

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Speaker 3: It's a very check at history.

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Speaker 1: Having joined Fleetwood Mac, did you have to when you

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Speaker 1: came home again? Do you bring that with you or

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Speaker 1: do you have to put that aside to be crowded

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Speaker 1: house again?

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Speaker 3: Well? Do you take everything? Every musical experience that I've had,

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Speaker 3: I've managed to, I think learn and grow from and

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Speaker 3: the same with Fleetwood Mac. A very different experience and

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Speaker 3: you know, quite wonderful.

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Speaker 2: They would have had some great backstage stuff though like

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Speaker 2: Fleetwood Mac two Cats, they would have had some great

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Speaker 2: backstage stuff.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, more so in the old days. I think there

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Speaker 3: would have been a lot of reveling and carousing and

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Speaker 3: canoodling and all of that. But they were relatively well

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Speaker 3: behaved when I was there, although you know, Mick will

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Speaker 3: always have a little red wine in hand after a show,

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Speaker 3: and you know, bless them, but I think things were

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Speaker 3: a little bit more crazy back in the day. They're

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Speaker 3: all trying to preserve themselves as the two and they

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Speaker 3: could play well, you know, and with.

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Speaker 1: You touring with your two sons, do you ever go

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Speaker 1: into dad mode and go look at the time, guys,

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Speaker 1: come on, come on, just.

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Speaker 3: To bed halfway through the show? Yeah, And I can't speak. No,

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Speaker 3: I don't need to do that. You know, we're all

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Speaker 3: in pretty well, pretty good sync. They stay up on

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Speaker 3: the two of us a bit later than I do.

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Speaker 3: And you know, watch some kind of you know, freaky

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Speaker 3: series on TV, Murder and Mayhem or something like everyone

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Speaker 3: seems to like these days.

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Speaker 1: And you're just watching blue and having an early night.

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Speaker 2: Why wouldn't you'll be watching Blue?

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Speaker 1: Well, I have.

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Speaker 3: Watched Bluey Affair, but actually in the company of children,

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Speaker 3: and it's pretty damn good entertainment. I actually was in

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Speaker 3: an episode of Bluey. It was very lovely invitation to be.

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Speaker 3: I played a doctor and I was assessing Bandit's good health.

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Speaker 3: It turned into a controversial episode because some people were

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Speaker 3: saying that it was about fat shaming, which because Bandit

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Speaker 3: was a little out of shape. But anyway, it got

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Speaker 3: a write up and you know, I'm glad to be

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Speaker 3: part of a blue controversy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that. That's what you need. You've got

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Speaker 2: it all. You've been had objects thrown at you by

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Speaker 2: magndu Zebanski, wedding dress, a mandickella and now bluey controversy.

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Speaker 2: You can retire, No, you can't retire because tickets for

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Speaker 2: Crowded House go and sale Wednesday the twenty ninth from

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Speaker 2: nine am on Live Nation.

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Speaker 1: You see, you're back in there, Neil.

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Speaker 3: You're back in yeah, and with a vengeance. And we'll

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Speaker 3: have come fresh from a lots of touring in the

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Speaker 3: Northern Hemisphere, so we'll be really in practice in hot

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Speaker 3: and hot form and back with our own people. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: very excited about that.

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Speaker 2: We're looking forward to seeing you mate. Thank you for

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Speaker 2: joining us.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Neil.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all the best you guys.

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Speaker 2: Good on your b