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Speaker 1: Oh, I'm Amanda and I'm Rumby.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to.

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Speaker 2: Lad. We're in a long distance friendship that started nearly

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Speaker 3: We'll be talking about all things life, love, family, anything

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Speaker 2: Delves deeper with us because in life, you know, Gine

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Speaker 2: and my Lad. What about online dating for you? Did

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Speaker 2: you ever you do it?

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Speaker 1: Did you do online.

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Speaker 2: Dating for the people on the on the on the podcast?

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Speaker 3: Like? Did you?

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Speaker 4: So?

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Speaker 3: My experience of online dating was trash, trash trash by

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Speaker 3: Can I say it again? It was trash because, like I,

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Speaker 3: I didn't do it because I met I was, as

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Speaker 3: I said before, I was going out a lot. You

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Speaker 3: know in the previous episodes, how evolved in our love

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Speaker 3: lives and career wise. I started initially in my career,

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Speaker 3: I was going out and I finally met someone. Then

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Speaker 3: we broke up, the dating sphere had changed. You know,

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Speaker 3: not only was I not so eager to go out

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Speaker 3: more accepted. I yes, I wasn't as creepy as it

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Speaker 3: ather in a predominantly you know, Caucasian society and oh girl,

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Speaker 3: I was just like, this is pre pre bumble, so

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Speaker 3: like two days and you're like I'm done. Yeah, I can't. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: And I think for me, it's so important to connect

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Speaker 3: You start thinking are you actually you know? And this

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Speaker 3: was even before the term catfish.

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Speaker 2: Yes, please explain to people who don't know cat fishing, fishing.

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Speaker 3: Is pretty much pretending to be someone online who you

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Speaker 3: like a few people who've experienced it now and like,

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Speaker 3: but for me, online dating just didn't. It just always fizzled.

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Speaker 2: I like actually recommended it. I was just saying it's trash.

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Speaker 2: No, I get you, it's fair, I think for me,

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Speaker 2: and so I have for sure online dating an essay.

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Speaker 2: I went online dating on Tinder when it was becoming

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Speaker 1: And you have to have time. That's the other thing.

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Speaker 2: You can't be like I'm on it for a week

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Speaker 2: Like it was on Tinder and literally what was great though,

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Speaker 2: Sure, and you just do it like do it like

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Speaker 1: And you have to also put time. You have to

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Speaker 2: There's no lie like you're not gonna know, You're not

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Speaker 3: That's that's true of any sort of dating. For me,

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Speaker 3: I met my husband in at a club, you knows,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And initially there's a lot of stigma, Like I

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Speaker 2: I think there's a stigma like, oh, you're supposed to

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Speaker 4: going to go into like intercultural and interracial they ting.

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Speaker 3: So my husband's massle he comes even though it's a

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Speaker 3: so it's also learning a completely different culture, separated not

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Speaker 3: Interracial wise, I think I came to terms a long

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Speaker 3: So like that. So I guess I'm very much team intercultural,

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Speaker 2: A lot of a stigma sometimes surrounding you know, intercultural

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Speaker 1: Absolutely never be taken away.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure it's nice to just but at the same time,

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Speaker 2: You really just want to be like at least for me,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you think of people fetishizing like biracial

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think I understand where it comes from.

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Speaker 3: At the same time, I think I completely agree with you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 3: At the same time, yeah, they're cute. It's like you

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Speaker 3: think it's a beautiful thing to most celebrate coming from

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, one hundred hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: I think it gives me so much joy. I think

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Speaker 2: Like we love things black by black, Like we just

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Speaker 2: like blackly black black.

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Speaker 1: There's a song by.

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Speaker 3: To being maybe I don't know how to say his name, it's.

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Speaker 1: Called Hella black.

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Speaker 2: Literally, like I really am a proponent for black, like

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Speaker 3: I mean even when we talk about skin, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Like wecha. You're like, it's just like glowing, glowing, like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So like I'm definitely like pro it and I

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Speaker 2: like it's always there's so much going against black love

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Speaker 2: union and joy and love, it's like, yes, you want

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Speaker 2: them to win because it's winning for our whole culture,

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Speaker 2: you know type of things.

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Speaker 3: So absolutely, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Any other thoughts on dating, trust, we probably will come

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Speaker 2: back to this topic many times.

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Speaker 3: You have to let it be to the people. They

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Speaker 3: have to come back to us if there's anything they

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Speaker 3: want us to specifically, yes us snavigate, revisit it, further.

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Speaker 1: Explain experts we have proclaimed experts.

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Speaker 3: We have to because I think dating is ever evolving.

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Speaker 3: you know, and it's like it's yeah, I think in

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Speaker 1: It is it's a different thing.

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Speaker 3: But at the same time, this whole goals things also

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Speaker 3: another aspect we need to discuss.

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Speaker 1: Which is also for the people, can be very problematic.

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Speaker 3: Make sure you're taking all the getting the car, getting

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Speaker 3: the house, getting the wedding, getting the like to discuss that.

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Speaker 3: So definitely we are definitely going to revisit this episode

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Speaker 3: and this topic.

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Speaker 1: I mean, because there's so much layers you me, my layers.

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